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CSP strong, CS:GO wrong
2012-06-15 01:19
Hey guys!
I'm here to talk to you about CS:Promod. CS 1.6 is now in a life support machine struggling for it's life, and CS:GO and CSPromod are babys that will be born soon.
However, CS:GO is a evil fucking baby and we need to kill it ASAP before the tournament organisers decides to use this game.
CSPromod is the cutest baby you'd ever imagine, and it's basically a copy of it's awesome dad CS 1.6, but with better looks (he kinda lost his fashion sense after the early 2000's).
Seriously guys, it's a really good game, and it's so much like 1.6. The recoil feels exactly like 1.6, the movement feels exactly like 1.6, the grenade physics feels exactly like 1.6.
For CSP 1.09 Beta we will have the sound system of Cs1.6 (not the sounds, just the system) so we can detect better the footsteps and gunshots then in CSS or CS:GO and for the CSP 1.1 (first out of BETA version) there are plans about new player models and animations (that are already being worked on) among many other improvements.
Unfortunately the DM alpha is closed atm so you can't test the latest version, but I've recorded a video from it to show you the gameplay:
Also, I see a _LOT_ of misinformation and negativity towards CSP, and it's painful to see for me that have followed CSP close for a long time, here are some examples and answers:
CSP have been in development for so long, failgame, it will never be released T_T.
So what? We need a new game now, we didn't need it 5 years ago. And it is gonna be released, next beta will come out in August.
The engine is too old, it will die soon anyways, to late.
CSP is coded so it can be ported to every new version of the source engine, so it doesn't matter.
CSP is only made by a modteam, CS:GO is supported by a huge gamestudi so CSP can't succeed.
Have you forgotten CS 1.6 roots?! WE, the community decides what we want, sure, Valve have a headstart but if no one of us plays CS:GO or watches it the tournament organisers and sponsors won't support it anymore. And if everyone plays and watches CSPromod the organisers wants to support CSPromod.
We aren't the organisers/game studios peons!
In August the new CSP 1.09 Beta will be released so i want everyone here to be tuned and play it out, Cs1.6 was made by the community and CSS was not able to shut it down, CSP is made by the community and CS:GO won't shut it down.
SHOW VALVE AND THE TOURNAMENTS THAT WE ARE IN CHARGE HERE!
You decide the Fate of CS, join us @ http://www.cspromod.com/
I'm here to talk to you about CS:Promod. CS 1.6 is now in a life support machine struggling for it's life, and CS:GO and CSPromod are babys that will be born soon.
However, CS:GO is a evil fucking baby and we need to kill it ASAP before the tournament organisers decides to use this game.
CSPromod is the cutest baby you'd ever imagine, and it's basically a copy of it's awesome dad CS 1.6, but with better looks (he kinda lost his fashion sense after the early 2000's).
Seriously guys, it's a really good game, and it's so much like 1.6. The recoil feels exactly like 1.6, the movement feels exactly like 1.6, the grenade physics feels exactly like 1.6.
For CSP 1.09 Beta we will have the sound system of Cs1.6 (not the sounds, just the system) so we can detect better the footsteps and gunshots then in CSS or CS:GO and for the CSP 1.1 (first out of BETA version) there are plans about new player models and animations (that are already being worked on) among many other improvements.
Unfortunately the DM alpha is closed atm so you can't test the latest version, but I've recorded a video from it to show you the gameplay:
Also, I see a _LOT_ of misinformation and negativity towards CSP, and it's painful to see for me that have followed CSP close for a long time, here are some examples and answers:
CSP have been in development for so long, failgame, it will never be released T_T.
So what? We need a new game now, we didn't need it 5 years ago. And it is gonna be released, next beta will come out in August.
The engine is too old, it will die soon anyways, to late.
CSP is coded so it can be ported to every new version of the source engine, so it doesn't matter.
CSP is only made by a modteam, CS:GO is supported by a huge gamestudi so CSP can't succeed.
Have you forgotten CS 1.6 roots?! WE, the community decides what we want, sure, Valve have a headstart but if no one of us plays CS:GO or watches it the tournament organisers and sponsors won't support it anymore. And if everyone plays and watches CSPromod the organisers wants to support CSPromod.
We aren't the organisers/game studios peons!
In August the new CSP 1.09 Beta will be released so i want everyone here to be tuned and play it out, Cs1.6 was made by the community and CSS was not able to shut it down, CSP is made by the community and CS:GO won't shut it down.
SHOW VALVE AND THE TOURNAMENTS THAT WE ARE IN CHARGE HERE!
You decide the Fate of CS, join us @ http://www.cspromod.com/
both are shit, sorry
+1
Keep on saying this and cs wont survive i aint talking abt 1.6 ..promod is awesome
It is awesome but u know what for some reason I don't understand why is taking so long for the development team to make some progress with it :S
so far without a doubt I'd say is by far the best option we have to migrate to another cs game!
so far without a doubt I'd say is by far the best option we have to migrate to another cs game!
Calling CSP shit is kinda like calling 1.6 shit, you know.
So basically what you are saying if I call, for example, Diablo II shit, it's like i'm calling Diablo III shit, right? It still maybe is the same game, but it still doesn't feel the same, get it?
Diablo II and Diablo III isn't the same game at all.
Did you try the latest DM beta? Recoil, movement, nade physics etc feels exactly the same.
Did you try the latest DM beta? Recoil, movement, nade physics etc feels exactly the same.
Dont focus on Diablo man, that's not the point, I took the game just to say an example. And, no, I haven't tried the latest DM beta, and i'm not intending to. As long as there are players playing 1.6, I will play it, and maybe in future, and I'm saying MAYBE, would consider switching to another version. In a meantime, I'll stick with 1.6.
Well, if you'd still play 1.6 even if there was an identical game with better graphics then I guess there's no way to convert you, however, the proscene can't stay on CS 1.6.
But if you don't care about the proscene that's ok for me, not everyone enjoys esports.
Post edited 2012-06-15 01:56:28
But if you don't care about the proscene that's ok for me, not everyone enjoys esports.
Post edited 2012-06-15 01:56:28
Does the crosshair expand and feel more like Counter-Strike 1.6's one? I did not play the latest version of CSP, the crosshair in the previous one was weird, like Source's one.
I didn't think about it at all actually. That probably means that it works as it should :-)
hes talkin in the overall look of the game example: in both games teams get 2 play ct n t and both have to defuse n blow bomb same objective diffrent style of play
hes right
ur WRONG
he stronk
sooo basiclly why cs is dying cus the objective of the game is getting rly boring n dull not the gameplay u idiot.
there is no such cs game that will save the de_fps_games? kapeeeesH?
hes right
ur WRONG
he stronk
sooo basiclly why cs is dying cus the objective of the game is getting rly boring n dull not the gameplay u idiot.
there is no such cs game that will save the de_fps_games? kapeeeesH?
You don't get tired of a sport if you're a real fan.
yes and people get bored of football because it is always the same :) gay dudes wondering after a ball trying to put it in a net, how stupid can that be! :D with the money they make they can afford to have a ball for each player... would be more fun to watch :)
csp is great
especially the issue with the pings is great
especially the issue with the pings is great
indeed!thats the big plus tbh :)
i hope this will be done in cs go too
i cant wait to play with USA players :)
i cant wait to play with USA players :)
can u explain me what is this issue ?
normally, when you shoot, you will not see the hit immediately, only some frames later, depending on your ping.
that means a highping leads to your enemies dying later, and you having kinda a strange feeling about the game.
in csp the hits are immediately , shown, so you dont have to wait for the answer from the server
that means a highping leads to your enemies dying later, and you having kinda a strange feeling about the game.
in csp the hits are immediately , shown, so you dont have to wait for the answer from the server
not at all
if you already have cs 1.6, cs promod is useless
so this game in my opnion is only a work for nothing, if you like cs 1.6 play cs 1.6, cs:go will come like another fps game for guys who know that one day cs 1.6 will die and i think its time to a new game good enough to swap cs 1.6 that already did what it can.
It's time to revive cs with cs:go uniting CS:S and CS 1.6 players in it.
if you already have cs 1.6, cs promod is useless
so this game in my opnion is only a work for nothing, if you like cs 1.6 play cs 1.6, cs:go will come like another fps game for guys who know that one day cs 1.6 will die and i think its time to a new game good enough to swap cs 1.6 that already did what it can.
It's time to revive cs with cs:go uniting CS:S and CS 1.6 players in it.
I tried promod few months ago and I can say that it doesn't have that feeling that 1.6 has. Maybe it was an older version than this one, but it was nowhere near CS 1.6. I mean it feels different not in a good way.
Firstly, the sound system was one of the worst things, so it's good that it is going be changed soon. The other thing that I didn't like is the randomness of the game. I played in few servers. One of them was with 5 ping others with 40+ and I couldn't notice any difference. Also the feeling when you get killed doesn't remind 1.6.
Firstly, the sound system was one of the worst things, so it's good that it is going be changed soon. The other thing that I didn't like is the randomness of the game. I played in few servers. One of them was with 5 ping others with 40+ and I couldn't notice any difference. Also the feeling when you get killed doesn't remind 1.6.
"The other thing that I didn't like is the randomness of the game. I played in few servers. One of them was with 5 ping others with 40+ and I couldn't notice any difference."
Are you serious?!?
That's just one of the many good things about CSP:
The netcode is waaaay better than the one from CS 1.6. It allows you to play on servers from other countries far away without having lags. In 1.6 I can't play on polish servers because of lags, but in CSP I can. That's awesome and very good for online matches between teams from different countries.
Are you serious?!?
That's just one of the many good things about CSP:
The netcode is waaaay better than the one from CS 1.6. It allows you to play on servers from other countries far away without having lags. In 1.6 I can't play on polish servers because of lags, but in CSP I can. That's awesome and very good for online matches between teams from different countries.
Explain why ?
the feeling isnt the same the spread, spray and the recoil isnt the same. also the handling isnt the same i dont feel like playing cs 1.6 with better graphics in csp. it still feels like source just a bit tweaked near cs 1.6
When did you play CSP the latest time? Because it is the same, believe me.
the funny thing is i played csp since the beta v1 which was end of 2007 and the last time i played was the release of 1.08. 1.09 was just a deatmatch test. i remember how everyone predicted that they will need at least 5years till it will be playable and its still not done yet and never will be as it seems. why would i switch to a game which has a source engine looks a bit better but still has worse gameplay than the original? that doesnt make any sense. if it does i could already switch to cs:go. in gerneral to be honest with you valve has the advantage of marketing/support/price/graphics on their side and in this case they have a lot bigger chances to hype cs:go than csp ever had in this 5years. i would love to see cs getting big again with 1.6 gameplay but this wont happen trust me.
Post edited 2012-06-15 11:10:13
Post edited 2012-06-15 11:10:13
You should really try 1.09. It was not just a DM-test :)
we see us in 2years if 1.11 is out or so :D this game has such small community and so support if that doesnt change i am not on board
Post edited 2012-06-15 11:18:19
Post edited 2012-06-15 11:18:19
Stop talking bullshit
The gameplay-mechanic is so damn close to 1.6. You won't barely find any difference in movement and recoil. And if you really do: Report it! They will adjust it to be exactly like in 1.6.
Name one difference in movement or recoil. I bet you can't.
"this game has such small support if that doesnt change i am not on board"
Maybe because WE should support it? You complain about a lack of support while you clearly refuse any kind of support and even talk shit about it.
Are you really that dumb?
The gameplay-mechanic is so damn close to 1.6. You won't barely find any difference in movement and recoil. And if you really do: Report it! They will adjust it to be exactly like in 1.6.
Name one difference in movement or recoil. I bet you can't.
"this game has such small support if that doesnt change i am not on board"
Maybe because WE should support it? You complain about a lack of support while you clearly refuse any kind of support and even talk shit about it.
Are you really that dumb?
+1
I just played it and din't even read this post. seriously you guys keep complaining that cs 1.6 will be "deaded" and cs:go is shit but if you really want you can take this community we have and put it in a new coat with new sponsors. We will probably go in the same cs 1.6 vs source lane. but cs:go is shit dont buy it and dont support it.
I just played it and din't even read this post. seriously you guys keep complaining that cs 1.6 will be "deaded" and cs:go is shit but if you really want you can take this community we have and put it in a new coat with new sponsors. We will probably go in the same cs 1.6 vs source lane. but cs:go is shit dont buy it and dont support it.
i played it nearly 5years from time to time. i supported that game more than you ever did while posting how good it is.
are you really that smart? look at the numbers of players and community. this game gone nowhere in 5years. do you think it might do now a step forward? really?
Post edited 2012-06-18 10:24:47
are you really that smart? look at the numbers of players and community. this game gone nowhere in 5years. do you think it might do now a step forward? really?
Post edited 2012-06-18 10:24:47
"i supported that game more than you ever did"
I highly doubt.
You're wondering why there are just a few people playing a game which's goal is to recreate an already existing game first and improve it later, but which is still in BETA and therefor full of bugs (they getting less in every new version)?
At the point where the game is on the same level as 1.6. a lot of people will switch. The same game, with better graphics, new good features (better netcode, money in scoreboard, ..) ... why shouldn't we?
1.6 is going nowhere in the future and the point is: Now we need cspromod more than anytime before.
I highly doubt.
You're wondering why there are just a few people playing a game which's goal is to recreate an already existing game first and improve it later, but which is still in BETA and therefor full of bugs (they getting less in every new version)?
At the point where the game is on the same level as 1.6. a lot of people will switch. The same game, with better graphics, new good features (better netcode, money in scoreboard, ..) ... why shouldn't we?
1.6 is going nowhere in the future and the point is: Now we need cspromod more than anytime before.
I have to disagree here with you here,I've played CSP from 1.05 to the latest version (1.09) and I can say its a pretty close to 1.6.
Tell me, which game is closer to 1.6? CSPromod or CS:GO?
i didnt played cs:go but i guess csp. and? i already stated my point
CSP
+1
loled so hard @ two babies.... CS:Promod is excellent same as 1.6 same recoil same jumps same movement we need to kill CS:GO bfr it infects all
+1
CS:Promod is really nice game, but probably haven't any chance to be at big tournaments :(
Have you forgotten CS 1.6 roots?! WE, the community decides what we want, sure, Valve have a headstart but if no one of us plays CS:GO or watches it the tournament organisers and sponsors won't support it anymore. And if everyone plays and watches CSPromod the organisers wants to support CSPromod.
CSP (and 1.6) can't produce this big amount of viewers (relatively to StarCraft 2, LoL). Sadly.
That's why a new game is needed. Better graphics attract new players.
Why should CSP could attract viewers when Source cant, and its the same graphic engine? :)))
Because Source is an awful game?
It has nothing to do with that. The graphics are just not good and therefore no one would want to watch it on TV or streams.
Not saying CSP is a bad game, but not pretty enough for TV.
Not saying CSP is a bad game, but not pretty enough for TV.
So if the gameplay doesn't have anything to do with it, why ain't BF3 an esport? Do you think LoL and SC2 have really highend graphics?
With that logic LoL shouldnt be popular either...
Its different with RTS games, since graphichs dont matter there. Its strategic game, where you see stuff from above.
If people wanna see great graphichs they dont go watch a LoL, HoN or SC2 game. Its obvious.
If people wanna see great graphichs they dont go watch a LoL, HoN or SC2 game. Its obvious.
So you're saying that because CS is a FPS game, graphics matter but they don't in RTS.I really can't see why the game genre would change peoples views on graphics.
And I don't see any reason why CSP couldn't be successful if there where a large enough player base to back it up, just like it is with any other game.
And I don't see any reason why CSP couldn't be successful if there where a large enough player base to back it up, just like it is with any other game.
I wont argue, but I will say that the sponsors will go and support CS:GO. I think exactly like you that CS:GO isnt good, but promod isnt either if they would have done the updates faster maybe promod would(maybe)have been a winner.
CS:GO will be good if they keep update it, its not good as it is now. But they said they would keep update after you can buy the game so lets hope!
CS:GO will be good if they keep update it, its not good as it is now. But they said they would keep update after you can buy the game so lets hope!
If you check the steam forums you will see it full of suggestions for CS:GO that got COMPLETLY ignored by Valve, yet, the very same suggestion is already done in CSP (movement and recoil code fix'd to have it closer to cs1.6 patterns for example).
Promodteam have been slow, true, but as I say in the topic, "So what? We need a new game now, we didn't need it 5 years ago. And it is gonna be released, next beta will come out in August."
Promodteam have been slow, true, but as I say in the topic, "So what? We need a new game now, we didn't need it 5 years ago. And it is gonna be released, next beta will come out in August."
csp sucks
1.6 FOR LIFE!
PROMOD IS THE RIGHT CHOICE!
i got the csgo beta key and dude.. that game is a really gigantic piece of shit
im not spending 15$ to buy it, valve doesnt deserve our support
PROMOD IS THE RIGHT CHOICE!
i got the csgo beta key and dude.. that game is a really gigantic piece of shit
im not spending 15$ to buy it, valve doesnt deserve our support
And nothing of value was lost
Organizers don't care.
They've got StarCraft 2 with thousands and thousands of viewers.
They've got League of Legends with giant amount of viewers as well.
They've got DotA 2.
They just won't care about CSP because no one will pay for it (as Riot Games pays for LoL tournaments; or Valve making The International 2), and it's little bit out-dated.
I'm not saying CSP is bad, it is really nice as I see it from videos. But... But we can't produce amount of viewers/players to change organizers mind.
I don't think Valve have paid ESL or WCG organizers.
It's game for us, but it's a business for them.
They've got StarCraft 2 with thousands and thousands of viewers.
They've got League of Legends with giant amount of viewers as well.
They've got DotA 2.
They just won't care about CSP because no one will pay for it (as Riot Games pays for LoL tournaments; or Valve making The International 2), and it's little bit out-dated.
I'm not saying CSP is bad, it is really nice as I see it from videos. But... But we can't produce amount of viewers/players to change organizers mind.
I don't think Valve have paid ESL or WCG organizers.
It's game for us, but it's a business for them.
I don't think Valve have paid ESL or WCG organizers. You should better think they've done it already :)
cool story bro
Okay think what you want, why should ESL then drop 1.6 if it had >70k viewers? Come on, 1.6 is Valve's main problem to make CS:GO popular, can't you see it?
Agree on this one.
It is just funny to see how all people can't stay that they just drop it.
There are a lot of speculations but no one says that they have just fucking dropped it. Without being paid.
Just blind army, eh?
See whatever you want in their actions because it pleases you and gives hope.
There are a lot of speculations but no one says that they have just fucking dropped it. Without being paid.
Just blind army, eh?
See whatever you want in their actions because it pleases you and gives hope.
Blind army? I don't think so, at least in that comment I've made. Isn't true that Valve wants people to change to CS:GO but 1.6 is their main problem to do so?
Valve want people to buy CS:GO, but Valve doesn't care whether it will be a competetive game or not.
They said that it's not CS 2, it's just a casual game.
And they just need us to buy they game, but not to play it, because they only get money for selling...
They said that it's not CS 2, it's just a casual game.
And they just need us to buy they game, but not to play it, because they only get money for selling...
CS:GO will be tried in tournaments
It won't work a shit cause it's a bad fucking casual game
CS 1.6 back
Anyway, WCG and IEM just don't care about games, they just want money. Just watch Dreamhack, Gamegune, CPH games...etc, that kind of true tournaments.
Fuck IEM
Fuck WCG
It won't work a shit cause it's a bad fucking casual game
CS 1.6 back
Anyway, WCG and IEM just don't care about games, they just want money. Just watch Dreamhack, Gamegune, CPH games...etc, that kind of true tournaments.
Fuck IEM
Fuck WCG
When CS 1.6 dies, it won't come back. To old graphics to attract new players and sponsors, sorry.
CSPromod is almost the same game with better graphics. Try it out.
CSPromod is almost the same game with better graphics. Try it out.
wcg switch to source, and then the next year 1.6 was back.. so maybe the same can happen now, lets wait to 2013
Then we might delay the death with one more year. The old graphics doesn't attract new players or new sponsors.
Why not support CSP? It's SO close to being a 100% copy of 1.6 with updated graphics, with our support we can make it even better than 1.6.
With CS:GO we won't be able to do that, because at Valve it's the guys with the suits that decides things, but in CSP, it's the community.
Why not support CSP? It's SO close to being a 100% copy of 1.6 with updated graphics, with our support we can make it even better than 1.6.
With CS:GO we won't be able to do that, because at Valve it's the guys with the suits that decides things, but in CSP, it's the community.
if i have to chose,ofc ill suport promod,played it and i really liked it,maybe in august me and my teammates will play it :)
Glad to hear! =D
good point!
CS:GO will fail and that's how the Valve CS era will end...it'll be up to the 1.6 community to decide whether the CS brand will survive!
CS:GO will fail and that's how the Valve CS era will end...it'll be up to the 1.6 community to decide whether the CS brand will survive!
Imo it looks more like Source, not like mixed up 1.6 and Source engine.
jesus....
Just fucking play it!! It's almost the same like 1.6!! The movement, the recoil, the size of models, the maps, the grenade-physic, the flash, ...
Post edited 2012-06-16 14:44:27
Just fucking play it!! It's almost the same like 1.6!! The movement, the recoil, the size of models, the maps, the grenade-physic, the flash, ...
Post edited 2012-06-16 14:44:27
don't be fooled by the videos you see with css graphics, the gameplay is actually very 1.6 like. you must try it, seriously, it's really good.
the only problem about csp is that its taking ages to be released, if cs:go is released first, you can see goodbye to CS as you know it.
the only problem about csp is that its taking ages to be released, if cs:go is released first, you can see goodbye to CS as you know it.
csp too buggy cs go too sourcy
I know that maybe CSPromod will be our last hope at least now, but who understands some people? They are saying that CS:GO sucks and CS:P sucks as well but let's be honest CS isn't in the best situation right now. I'll try it, I hope that some details will be fixed!
Final version of GO will be way better than CSP. But not better than 1.6 for sure
Here's a list of half of the things that needs to be fixed in CS:GO
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php..
As you can see it's an entire book and a lot of things are already shut down by valve.
heres what needs to be done in CSP:
models (on the way)
animations (on the way)
sound system (on the way)
speed with the updates
As you can see, it's few things, and they are already acknowledged..
I don't think you're right my friend :-)
Post edited 2012-06-15 02:17:44
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php..
As you can see it's an entire book and a lot of things are already shut down by valve.
heres what needs to be done in CSP:
models (on the way)
animations (on the way)
sound system (on the way)
speed with the updates
As you can see, it's few things, and they are already acknowledged..
I don't think you're right my friend :-)
Post edited 2012-06-15 02:17:44
hes trying to troll ya .....
;)
;)
Link isn't working.
HLTV shorted it down o.o
http://forums.steampowered.com/
forums/showpost.php?p=31052261&postcount=1
without the space
http://forums.steampowered.com/
forums/showpost.php?p=31052261&postcount=1
without the space
I played csp and it's really nice,much better than css.I haven't tried CS:GO yet but by the comments I'm seeing and the yt footage I've watched it doesn't look that promising.
Still CS:GO is getting pushed by valve to the pro gaming scene while CSP is only suported by a handfull of people and that's why I don't think it will succeed to become the next generation CS although it's the closes thing to 1.6 out there.
Still CS:GO is getting pushed by valve to the pro gaming scene while CSP is only suported by a handfull of people and that's why I don't think it will succeed to become the next generation CS although it's the closes thing to 1.6 out there.
CSPromod is awesome. I'm looking forward to the new models and animations.
People who talk shit about CSP just never played it. It's really (!!) close to 1.6 mechanics and if you like CS 1.6 you will also enjoy CSPromod.
People who talk shit about CSP just never played it. It's really (!!) close to 1.6 mechanics and if you like CS 1.6 you will also enjoy CSPromod.
I've my little hope for CSP since Cloud-strike: Global Offensive sucks ass and its not even being correctly updated. Valve/HPE added chickens to their crappy version of de_inferno instead of fix the relevant aspects of the game for gods sake.
Nah, it's too early to judge CS:GO because it's just beta. (Although DotA 2 is incredibly good in beta).
I'm not sure dude, I have been working my ass off for like 2-3 months writing stuff in the forums only to be completely ignored, being a beta tester for CS:GO is awful.
I've got CS:GO beta...
I don't think you are completely ignored. It just seems like Valve want to create casual game not similar to 1.6...
I don't think you are completely ignored. It just seems like Valve want to create casual game not similar to 1.6...
I'm glad that someone supports CSP and I don't understand why people are so negative about it.Good graphics + 1.6 gameplay what more can you ask for ?
People don't care about it, they care about what the pros care! Unforutnately, if they go for CS:GO the dumb-majority will follow them...
The only thing they can go for is money, and if valve leaves CS:GO to be as it is right now, pro players' attraction won't be permanent.
Let the admins(including lurppis) decide what to do next..they have a greater knowlegde then us about the events,sponsors and the overall game itself..@admins-you tell us what to do next,we will follow the instructions (In order to revive 1.6,or to get CSP going at its best)..
Lurppis is a CSP-supporter,
http://www.facebook.com/tinttibg/posts/28391514837..
"I hope something great happens with CS:Promod which is our best option right now for CS' future, but otherwise the future looks bleak - we will see"
http://www.facebook.com/tinttibg/posts/28391514837..
"I hope something great happens with CS:Promod which is our best option right now for CS' future, but otherwise the future looks bleak - we will see"
I support CSP, much better than CS:GO.
CSP Developers go, save us please !
CSP Developers go, save us please !
Simple straight questions, if u guys know CSGO sucks / why make a thread about it every day.. It just rocks (M a 1.6 player not source). and u ppl are just scared that ppl will move on ! .... CS:GO owns !
Lol
sup zaihtam! remember me from the csgo forums?
don't forget one thing I pm'd you about, "cs was born as a mod, from half life. It was made with passion and fun, without worry of attracting this and that demographic of casual and competitive player, without worry of 'we need to make this much profit'. Later on a company takes over, and imposes new cs games that don't match up. So on and so on, cycles are made. To repeat the cycle, all you need is someone to make a great mod from an engine, just as CS came to be." aka CS:GOPro mod.
don't forget one thing I pm'd you about, "cs was born as a mod, from half life. It was made with passion and fun, without worry of attracting this and that demographic of casual and competitive player, without worry of 'we need to make this much profit'. Later on a company takes over, and imposes new cs games that don't match up. So on and so on, cycles are made. To repeat the cycle, all you need is someone to make a great mod from an engine, just as CS came to be." aka CS:GOPro mod.
yo dude. Yes I remember, and it's true, people that think that CSP can't compete because it's a mod haved abv forgot CS roots!
Just one thing, please HLTV.org never support CS:GO please !!
Don't see why people say it's dying? It's a game, it can't die unless the developers give back all the money they made from the game and make it impossible to buy... It's not a human nor a pet, it's a game. I really don't care that much about the "Professional Scene" anymore, I just play the game because it's fun. Actually, I think it's just as fun to see GeT_RiGhT streaming some random mixes & gathers, as it is to watch "WCG Grand Final -Insert Best Team of the Year- vs -Insert 2nd Best Team of the Year-"
So my point; I will still be playing 1.6 even when the pro scene has fallen.
Peace out :)
So my point; I will still be playing 1.6 even when the pro scene has fallen.
Peace out :)
Many people care about the proscene, if you don't it's totally ok.
CSP WRONG CS:GO SHIT
even CSP'S final version can't be good as 1.6. Actually CSP can be finished 20 years later.
even CSP'S final version can't be good as 1.6. Actually CSP can be finished 20 years later.
Please try it CSP when they release the next beta, you will be amazed :)
sorry to say but if one of these will try to replace cs:go has the main chance...as prize money will follow, pro teams will follow=>spectators will follow=>the end.
would be nice but never gonna happen
would be nice but never gonna happen
We are not the organisers peons. We decide what games we want to be played.
that's what they want you to believe, what you want is never gonna happen at a large scale, that would be something, it won't so the end.
If nobody watches or plays CS:GO, do you think they would continue with it?
last reply as you think hltv.org are the only people that play fps, there is the source community/cod/whatever game and people from those games would be attracted to this new game.
how the fuck would nobody play it?
now i see you are 15 years age damn why don't i check before i reply?
Post edited 2012-06-17 17:12:38
how the fuck would nobody play it?
now i see you are 15 years age damn why don't i check before i reply?
Post edited 2012-06-17 17:12:38
Dont want to play shitty csgo and some fail cspromod with css engine and maps. fuck that shits..
Post edited 2012-06-15 08:36:46
Post edited 2012-06-15 08:36:46
than dont, keep playing cs1.6 till u played it alone vs bots
such a retarded attitude, good luck playing alone. and cspromod is everything but a fail
with that title you i thought you were a polish writer :)
Post edited 2012-06-15 08:43:48
Post edited 2012-06-15 08:43:48
Haha I was joking really with the title :P
Give it a try actually, I was very pessimistic about the last 'DM' Alpha release aswel from promod. The releases before the DM-Alpha weren't impressive at all they were rather shit even.With that being said, I was very suprised it felt like they made alot of progress.
I've played cs:go and promod, I'd say give promod a chance people. I'd pick promod over cs;go any given day. Don't forget that promod is being developed/tweaked by people who actually care about the community. These tweakers are for all I know unpaid.
Also yes it won't be an exact copy of cs1.6 but thats impossible. Promod is based on the HL2 engine which is totally different than the 'cs1.6 engine'.
It's pretty darn impressive that they have been able to come THIS close mimicking movement and perfecting the recoil patterns.
The only issue about cs1.6 are the graphics. Come on, everyone who plays the game has to admit it looks outdated especially for nowadays standards. Promod will bring a huge visual boost knowing it's based on the HL2 engine. This alone will attract newer players and maybe newer sponsors. Creating a bigger player base and allowing the game to be picked up more frequent in (international) tourneys.
Back in the day when Source came out we were forced to change to it. Alot of peope said that in order for the cs to survive we had to switch. It felt to me like I was force fed muchos bullcrap. Tried source out, didn't like it and uninstalled it. Scene got split, source kept sucking cs1.6 kept ruling. We managed to survive, CS1.6 managed to survive.
Now we live in 2012 and the time truely has come for us to step over. In my opinion promod is the only option which seems to be viable at this point. With abit of luck it might even bring the source and 1.6 scene together again who knows.
tldr; Try Promod out guys it is indeed worth it.
I've played cs:go and promod, I'd say give promod a chance people. I'd pick promod over cs;go any given day. Don't forget that promod is being developed/tweaked by people who actually care about the community. These tweakers are for all I know unpaid.
Also yes it won't be an exact copy of cs1.6 but thats impossible. Promod is based on the HL2 engine which is totally different than the 'cs1.6 engine'.
It's pretty darn impressive that they have been able to come THIS close mimicking movement and perfecting the recoil patterns.
The only issue about cs1.6 are the graphics. Come on, everyone who plays the game has to admit it looks outdated especially for nowadays standards. Promod will bring a huge visual boost knowing it's based on the HL2 engine. This alone will attract newer players and maybe newer sponsors. Creating a bigger player base and allowing the game to be picked up more frequent in (international) tourneys.
Back in the day when Source came out we were forced to change to it. Alot of peope said that in order for the cs to survive we had to switch. It felt to me like I was force fed muchos bullcrap. Tried source out, didn't like it and uninstalled it. Scene got split, source kept sucking cs1.6 kept ruling. We managed to survive, CS1.6 managed to survive.
Now we live in 2012 and the time truely has come for us to step over. In my opinion promod is the only option which seems to be viable at this point. With abit of luck it might even bring the source and 1.6 scene together again who knows.
tldr; Try Promod out guys it is indeed worth it.
shit dude...
CS 1.6 STRONG; CSP AND CS:GO WRONG!
CS 1.6 STRONG; CSP AND CS:GO WRONG!
CSP is a lot better than CS:GO, I agree. I just wish that CS:GO would make a lot better hitboxes and improve the movement. CS:GO is way too slow in my opinion.
most people are just stupid!! why are u saying cs1.6 is better? we all know its better, but we are gonna have to switch if we want to see CS in great tournaments!! i agree man, CSPromod is way better than CS:GO, if only they had the support they deserve...
nice blog
nice blog
I did not try it, but just watching the video it gives me a clear impression that it is the way to go. It does feel like the same recoil, same movement, and, of course, it has a long way ahead, but it is definitely worth of giving a shot.
A big thank you to the CSP team for being willing to sacrifice so much to the community, these ungrateful people, for FREE.
I will gladly do the switching if it keeps improving.
Thank you, Mathiaz, for the blog.
A big thank you to the CSP team for being willing to sacrifice so much to the community, these ungrateful people, for FREE.
I will gladly do the switching if it keeps improving.
Thank you, Mathiaz, for the blog.
Thank you Oliver ;)
Do not like CSP. Dunno what, but something is wrong with this game.
Please try it out and find out what's wrong and post it to www.cspromod.com to help CS future :)
No problem, i do it as soon as i can.
A bad death animation.
In CS 1.6 it better than in CSP.
Do it well please.
In CS 1.6 it better than in CSP.
Do it well please.
The problem is that the current CS1.6 community wants new CS to be at least 95% the same as 1.6
Deal with it that the new CS won't be exactly the same as 1.6
Post edited 2012-06-15 11:25:28
Deal with it that the new CS won't be exactly the same as 1.6
Post edited 2012-06-15 11:25:28
Then they should really try CSP out, as it's very close to 1.6 gameplay wise.
The recoil seems so similar (havent tried, only watched the video). Same with the movement.
I dont like the models/animations but I guess that will be fixed soon. Is the sound also fixed? I know I heard something about they would make the sound 1.6 alike, so you can actually hear where the fuck the enemies are and not like CSS.
Post edited 2012-06-15 11:24:05
I dont like the models/animations but I guess that will be fixed soon. Is the sound also fixed? I know I heard something about they would make the sound 1.6 alike, so you can actually hear where the fuck the enemies are and not like CSS.
Post edited 2012-06-15 11:24:05
They will implement the sound system from 1.6, and make totally new animations and models.
So yes, all these things will be fixed in version 1.1. =)
So yes, all these things will be fixed in version 1.1. =)
People play what they want to play and the 1.6 players play 1.6 cause its fun. Even if all of the hltv community switches to csp which will never happen it will not change anything. FPS is not that big anymore.
Post edited 2012-06-15 11:31:12
Post edited 2012-06-15 11:31:12
i dont know csp maps feel to me that are bigger than 1.6 and you definitely need to make the sounds identical to 1.6. also animations need to be better that this. the recoil etc is identical to 1.6 but it feels strange. maybe the new colors of the maps something is different. but i dont think that it will succeed the world doesnt need a polished version of 1.6
Nice read,
In my opinion its now or never for the guys behind CSP. I mean, the news about IEM and maybe WCG to let go CS made the light at the end of the tunnel even further away for the most of us. There for, CSGO will be release very soon and for some reason many CS players switching over. I still don't know why, because if you played CS for a live-time, why and how can you switch over to such a shitty game so easily.
On a marketing point of view, it would also be better for the CSP team to be in-front of the CSGO guys. They have such bigger benefits over CSGO, but on the other side they don't get payed for what they build.
If you ask me, we as a CS community should really give CSP a try. Its what the sponsors always wanted, a very strong game because of its tactics elements, skill and game-play. And the graphics on the other side.
What more could we possibly ask for guys!?
In my opinion its now or never for the guys behind CSP. I mean, the news about IEM and maybe WCG to let go CS made the light at the end of the tunnel even further away for the most of us. There for, CSGO will be release very soon and for some reason many CS players switching over. I still don't know why, because if you played CS for a live-time, why and how can you switch over to such a shitty game so easily.
On a marketing point of view, it would also be better for the CSP team to be in-front of the CSGO guys. They have such bigger benefits over CSGO, but on the other side they don't get payed for what they build.
If you ask me, we as a CS community should really give CSP a try. Its what the sponsors always wanted, a very strong game because of its tactics elements, skill and game-play. And the graphics on the other side.
What more could we possibly ask for guys!?
i would choose this instead of CSGO
but not instead of cs 1.6
:)
but not instead of cs 1.6
:)
Try the new versions out and write your thoughts over at cspromod.com, to help them make a even better game then 1.6 :)
Hi mates.
I'm from CS:S, and played 1.6 from 2002 to 2004.
Would you, you guys from 1.6, switch for CS:GO ?
haze.
I'm from CS:S, and played 1.6 from 2002 to 2004.
Would you, you guys from 1.6, switch for CS:GO ?
haze.
Nope.
I'm excited for 1.09. It will come out in a few weeks, I've been told. They're also working on some heavy stuff for 1.01.
When is the new version of CS-pro being released?
Btw - something about the atmosphere in CSP that just seem so bland? It's like....... nothings there? I don't like all the objects laying around in Source, but CS-Promod is a bit too "scraped" for me.
Btw - something about the atmosphere in CSP that just seem so bland? It's like....... nothings there? I don't like all the objects laying around in Source, but CS-Promod is a bit too "scraped" for me.
Well, it is the same map as in 1.6 :P Next version will be relased in August. However it won't have new models or the soundsystem.
After that version 1.1 will come out, the first version out of beta, and it will feature the new sound system, models and animations.
Post edited 2012-06-15 12:31:48
After that version 1.1 will come out, the first version out of beta, and it will feature the new sound system, models and animations.
Post edited 2012-06-15 12:31:48
Wrong.
It will have the GoldSrc/1.6 sound system.
The release date is still TBD.
It will have the GoldSrc/1.6 sound system.
The release date is still TBD.
Yeah, the GoldSrc-sound system would be new for CSP since it hasn't been in it before?
Yeah, I know that the date isn't decided but you guys have been writing mid July-August so.
Yeah, I know that the date isn't decided but you guys have been writing mid July-August so.
this is source, every cs that isnt 1.6 is source to me, and source sucks bigtime
naah it isnt. I played it. Its good. :)
they are making the new sound system for two years that doesn´t sounds like source..wonder why so long.
Because they work for free and have other stuff IRL that's been taking their time. And they haven't been working on the sound system for two years, not even one year :P
It's clear what the community needs to do...give feedback to the people that actually care and improve CSP!
CS:GO is shit...it's not a spectator game!
Everything looks so gray, pale and dead!
CS:GO is shit...it's not a spectator game!
Everything looks so gray, pale and dead!
Sorry, I couldnt read ur wall of text but CSP will die and CS:GO too.
Time to get a new hobby kid!
Time to get a new hobby kid!
fap time !
gtfo wmb.
zaihtaM, fourteen year old kid living in a distant suburb far from Stockholm inner city.
I won't take anything you say seriously nor anything because your a nobody and will always sadly be one.
I won't take anything you say seriously nor anything because your a nobody and will always sadly be one.
wmbz, 12 year old kid who's only friends in the swedish community are the ones he sends cheats to.
12 year old kid? I'm 20 turning 21 bro and no, sending cheats isn't what I tend to do bro.
Don't know who gave you the malicious info but I'm sure not a part of what you think or have read somewhere on some lousy forum ciao
Don't know who gave you the malicious info but I'm sure not a part of what you think or have read somewhere on some lousy forum ciao
CSP wrong, CS:GO strong
and u are retard and wrong
eat pizza and be quiet
yeah i can't insult your country 'cause ur country is unknow
and?in italia life sourse noobs.fuck off
what? u mad brah?
Belarussian Professional Teams - N38-26F, Ultimo
Italia Professional Teams - ???
Italia Professional Teams - ???
i can beat them in mix without any problems, btw this what mean, u remain a retard.
why you no go WCG with your mix???
http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/7/73/Jean..
http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/7/73/Jean..
'cause WCG isn't for CS 1.6?
http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/7/73/Jean..
http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/7/73/Jean..
last year your mix game on publick, I do not see your team on WCG
stfu noob
no...but you noob and your mix noobs
CS:P is better than GO in my point of view.
I played CSP in 1.03,1.04 and it felt good, now i played 1.08 and it's great.I also played CS:GO and i hated it.I really think that if CSP would get more publicity could be an option if won't be sponsors for 1.6.
THIS IS > CS:GO i might play this seems same gameplay but good graphics :D GooD :D
CSP is on Source engine. It can't be better than GO!
Post edited 2012-06-15 22:05:03
Post edited 2012-06-15 22:05:03
uhm, CS:GO is also on the source engine...
what you write?who Promod creator or sponsor???
if i compare CSP and CS:GO... PROMOD for sure is way better, its all most exactly what we need.
CS1.6 gameplay/weapon handling and a graphic quality like SOURCE got.
what valve really should do is work together with the guys from promod, they are on a really good way with CSP and know what the community wants imo.
just give our loved CS1.6 the kind of graphic quality that source got,
add a couple of new nice riffles/pistols and create some new good balanced maps.
and most important, DONT ever change the weapon handling/recoil of all ready existing weapons!...
thats basically it, just my 2cent...
CS1.6 gameplay/weapon handling and a graphic quality like SOURCE got.
what valve really should do is work together with the guys from promod, they are on a really good way with CSP and know what the community wants imo.
just give our loved CS1.6 the kind of graphic quality that source got,
add a couple of new nice riffles/pistols and create some new good balanced maps.
and most important, DONT ever change the weapon handling/recoil of all ready existing weapons!...
thats basically it, just my 2cent...
I play CS:GO for 2 months now... I don't have promod... the more I compare the two the more I want to try promod, it seems to be a good evolution of 1.6 like when we went from 1.5 to 1.6. CS:GO is not yet a good cs mod and valve isn't listening to the community at all, they just want to sell a 15$ game to millions of players :( they don't want to create a hit like cs used to be...
I finally have promod! IT IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN CS:GO! OMG! The feel is great, recoil etc is very good. There is just one thing I don't understand : WHY IS NOBODY PLAYING THE SH** OUT OF THIS GAME? everybody say they want a game, it is out, nobody plays it! CS:GO is a fun game, Promod is a competitive game. Choice is made for me :)
Tried CSP today
And I liked it alot actually, the feel in it and graphics are decent but it still had this "cheap" feel to it, I hope their new major patch will fix some of this.
And I liked it alot actually, the feel in it and graphics are decent but it still had this "cheap" feel to it, I hope their new major patch will fix some of this.
+1
We're now making progress on removing all signs of CSS content.
Hopefully for the 1.10 release, you should have:
-New player models + animations
-New C4 backpack model
-New defuse kit model
-New arm models
-Few if not all new weapon models
-At least 1 map revamped with custom textures/ content.
That's what is planned anyway and I can assure you progress IS being made.
Post edited 2012-06-16 12:55:12
Hopefully for the 1.10 release, you should have:
-New player models + animations
-New C4 backpack model
-New defuse kit model
-New arm models
-Few if not all new weapon models
-At least 1 map revamped with custom textures/ content.
That's what is planned anyway and I can assure you progress IS being made.
Post edited 2012-06-16 12:55:12
Sounds great!
Mhm, lots of info but there is a little sorting:
player models - BETA 1.1
player animations - BETA 1.1
GoldSrc sound system - BETA 1.09
1.6like hitsounds - BETA 1.09
sound distances like 1.6 - BETA 1.09
non-delayed animations /flinches/ - BETA 1.09
better particle effects /hits, blood/ - BETA 1.09
minor recoil tweaking - BETA 1.09
like 30+ another bugs fixed - BETA 1.09
Post edited 2012-06-16 13:34:42
player models - BETA 1.1
player animations - BETA 1.1
GoldSrc sound system - BETA 1.09
1.6like hitsounds - BETA 1.09
sound distances like 1.6 - BETA 1.09
non-delayed animations /flinches/ - BETA 1.09
better particle effects /hits, blood/ - BETA 1.09
minor recoil tweaking - BETA 1.09
like 30+ another bugs fixed - BETA 1.09
Post edited 2012-06-16 13:34:42
"Seriously guys, it's a really good game, and it's so much like 1.6. The recoil feels exactly like 1.6, the movement feels exactly like 1.6, the grenade physics feels exactly like 1.6."
I have to disagree with this ! it looks alike, but it's not really the same.
And no, the nades haven't got the same physics!
I have to disagree with this ! it looks alike, but it's not really the same.
And no, the nades haven't got the same physics!
It can't rly be 100% the same - it's not the same engine. But it's very close after the years of try/error.
Do u think CS:S or CS:GO are closer to the 1.6 feel?
Btw nade gravity is being tweaked a bit for BETA 1.09.
Do u think CS:S or CS:GO are closer to the 1.6 feel?
Btw nade gravity is being tweaked a bit for BETA 1.09.
Of course i'd rather see CSpromod on top, instead of css or cs:go.
But at this very moment, we can only play on some public.
So i guess we're gonna have to wait, because the game is not ready yet.
Since it's not ready yet, hats off for the producers!
But at this very moment, we can only play on some public.
So i guess we're gonna have to wait, because the game is not ready yet.
Since it's not ready yet, hats off for the producers!
no other game is closer to the legendary 1.6 :) if you don't like csp I can't see what will satisfy you... from 1.3 to 1.5 then from 1.5 to 1.6 and finally from 1.6 to csp :)
Indeed man, it's not that i'm not satisfied, it's just that i'm not satisfied yet ! (and i reckon i'm not the only one)
Even though it brings something newer, and it's always great to switch games !
Even though it brings something newer, and it's always great to switch games !
i actually liked that video..closest thing to cs 1.6.
respect to you guys. keep doing this good work!
I wonder if everyone from CSP supporting community donates a dollar or an euro how fast will it speed up the process of finishing the game.
What's the point? This isn't sarcastic. I've been playing og cs for over a decade now and don't really understand why I would want to jump to a game trying to replicate it. If I cared about graphics, I wouldn't be playing 1.6 still. Is there any benefit to a person like me?
Moving on to the "community" argument, that new players won't start playing 1.6 because of its old graphics, source is already 5+ years old and nowhere near state of the art cg, so does it even apply to Pro Mod any more?
Just want to add I appreciate the work you guys on the pro mod team put in because you're trying to keep the community in tact and growing.
Moving on to the "community" argument, that new players won't start playing 1.6 because of its old graphics, source is already 5+ years old and nowhere near state of the art cg, so does it even apply to Pro Mod any more?
Just want to add I appreciate the work you guys on the pro mod team put in because you're trying to keep the community in tact and growing.
The fact is that any pc now-a-days run Cs1.6 without any problem.
GldSrc does not benefict of new headphones virtual speaker shifters, you don't need "decent" GPU or CPU to play it nicely, etc, etc.
While Source Engine require a min specs over now-a-days pc, i know many ppl that can't afrod to play any source game with more then 40 fps. This means sponsors are more likely to pick teams of CSP then teams of Cs1.6 (if both game had the same amount of players).
The fact that the game is almost the same (and improved in someways) only that has improved graphics only means it's BETTER. How can a game with same gameplay and better graphics be as good as the old game?
GldSrc does not benefict of new headphones virtual speaker shifters, you don't need "decent" GPU or CPU to play it nicely, etc, etc.
While Source Engine require a min specs over now-a-days pc, i know many ppl that can't afrod to play any source game with more then 40 fps. This means sponsors are more likely to pick teams of CSP then teams of Cs1.6 (if both game had the same amount of players).
The fact that the game is almost the same (and improved in someways) only that has improved graphics only means it's BETTER. How can a game with same gameplay and better graphics be as good as the old game?
real life strong , nolife - wrong !
A lil smart move by CSP crew imo would be reintroducing 1.5:ish knife.
Healty for CS:Promod and its identity, i think. Not least, onepointsixers usually got a fetish for what's linked with oldschoolish stuffs.
Healty for CS:Promod and its identity, i think. Not least, onepointsixers usually got a fetish for what's linked with oldschoolish stuffs.
actually cs 1.6 strong, csp average, cs:go wrong!
CS 1.6 > CSP > CS:S > CS:GO
Music from vid? I wanna test my dislike button..
I started playing cs1.6 too late... i started arround 2006 but when i managed to have aceptable skill to play in country tournaments, they have been shut down at spain. Now there's only 1 tournaments and having sponsors is fricking hard here.
On the other hand, CSPromod has the potencial to revive the fire that made CS1.x be there for 12 years. If you think that CS:GO is shit and that Cs1.6 is the way to go, i think you should support CSPromod, mainly not because of what it is NOW, but because of what it will be.
Even though gameplay wise i think CSP 1.09 Beta will be superior to Cs1.6 (99% identical movement, recoil, spread, blablabla + better netcode that alows you to play with higher ping and smothly then in cs1.6).
If you really like Counter-Strike you shouldn't keep playing Cs1.6 to its end, you should check cspromod forum (www.cspromod.com) until CSP 1.09 Beta and play it instead of playing Cs1.6.
I stoped playing CSP 1.06, 1.07 and 1.08 because it ran out of players... For this beta we have some solid gameplay mechanics so we don't need to leave it to die until CSP 1.1.
Common guys, we have the power, we have the money... Tournaments need us and we need tournaments so let's just make CSPromod happen and make it even bigger then Cs1.6
Counter-Strike FOREVER!
On the other hand, CSPromod has the potencial to revive the fire that made CS1.x be there for 12 years. If you think that CS:GO is shit and that Cs1.6 is the way to go, i think you should support CSPromod, mainly not because of what it is NOW, but because of what it will be.
Even though gameplay wise i think CSP 1.09 Beta will be superior to Cs1.6 (99% identical movement, recoil, spread, blablabla + better netcode that alows you to play with higher ping and smothly then in cs1.6).
If you really like Counter-Strike you shouldn't keep playing Cs1.6 to its end, you should check cspromod forum (www.cspromod.com) until CSP 1.09 Beta and play it instead of playing Cs1.6.
I stoped playing CSP 1.06, 1.07 and 1.08 because it ran out of players... For this beta we have some solid gameplay mechanics so we don't need to leave it to die until CSP 1.1.
Common guys, we have the power, we have the money... Tournaments need us and we need tournaments so let's just make CSPromod happen and make it even bigger then Cs1.6
Counter-Strike FOREVER!
what's the name of the song? i love it<3
the problem is this guys say "in the end of january we will have 1.09 ready", now is june and 1.09 still not ready
CSP 1.09 Beta was going to be one thing MUCH WORST then what it will be in August.
If they had released CSP 1.09 Beta in august, maybe it would only increanse the negative comments toward the mod because it had made little improvements.
While now when you play CSP 1.08 Beta and then CSP 1.09 Beta, you will notice a big improvement.
Of couse, you will only notice if you give it a try ;)
If they had released CSP 1.09 Beta in august, maybe it would only increanse the negative comments toward the mod because it had made little improvements.
While now when you play CSP 1.08 Beta and then CSP 1.09 Beta, you will notice a big improvement.
Of couse, you will only notice if you give it a try ;)
So fucking true. Rebirth 1.5 knife and i will play this game for the rest of my life.
Good morning shorties. Bored at the office so I'll give a little bit of insight.
CSPromod aims to remake our beloved game Counter-Strike 1.6 onto a new engine. With this in mind, it is driven PURELY off the community. We aren't trying to screw anyone over, tell you that CS:GO is poop, or the Democrats will win the 2012 election. The development team is exactly like you guys: people wanting to play a damn fun game.
I also agree that the PR lacks and the development of this mod has taken WAY too long. The main cause of this are management and time issues. Reiterating known information this mod is made by people on their spare time, not as a job. Thus life, women, and other things intervene which ultimately shows slow progression on this mod. If we had more coders, modellers, artists, and web-developers that are able to contribute to CSPromod the development process will be going at a faster rate (which has). So if you know any that fit the description, tell them to hit us up at http://wiki.cspromod.com/Jobs .
Also be sure to voice your opinion about anything on the CSPromod forums. The Dev team and testers check that stuff EVERYDAY. We are also on IRC EVERYDAY discussing about the latest productions and plans.
Expect something big soon.
/rant
-[EA]
(For those of you talking about the 1.5 knife, everyone is on board for that and the Dev team tries to satisfy everyone. :-D)
CSPromod aims to remake our beloved game Counter-Strike 1.6 onto a new engine. With this in mind, it is driven PURELY off the community. We aren't trying to screw anyone over, tell you that CS:GO is poop, or the Democrats will win the 2012 election. The development team is exactly like you guys: people wanting to play a damn fun game.
I also agree that the PR lacks and the development of this mod has taken WAY too long. The main cause of this are management and time issues. Reiterating known information this mod is made by people on their spare time, not as a job. Thus life, women, and other things intervene which ultimately shows slow progression on this mod. If we had more coders, modellers, artists, and web-developers that are able to contribute to CSPromod the development process will be going at a faster rate (which has). So if you know any that fit the description, tell them to hit us up at http://wiki.cspromod.com/Jobs .
Also be sure to voice your opinion about anything on the CSPromod forums. The Dev team and testers check that stuff EVERYDAY. We are also on IRC EVERYDAY discussing about the latest productions and plans.
Expect something big soon.
/rant
-[EA]
(For those of you talking about the 1.5 knife, everyone is on board for that and the Dev team tries to satisfy everyone. :-D)
I played every version of CS and tbh I prefer the 1.6 knife. The 1.5 knife screws up the nice animations 1.6's knife got and the only reason some people want it back is nostalgia.
Women slowing down development?
Give me a call, I got a strong backhand.
Women slowing down development?
Give me a call, I got a strong backhand.
But of course the default 1.6 knife will be kept for the people who roll that way. Ideally as a ConVar and accesible via the CSPromod Tab in the options.
As for your backhand, save it. You're going to need it when I start AWPing. :-O
As for your backhand, save it. You're going to need it when I start AWPing. :-O
CSP intention's not only to take the best from 1.6.
1.5ish knife is a classical icon which make huge sense to make a comeback with in a project like this Counter-Strike: Promod.
Givf us back the ""voodoo"-knife originated from CS roots . ,D
1.5ish knife is a classical icon which make huge sense to make a comeback with in a project like this Counter-Strike: Promod.
Givf us back the ""voodoo"-knife originated from CS roots . ,D
So in next patch you can choose in options if you wanna go for the 1.5 or 1.6 - knife ?
Would be a quite great solution, imo..
Would be a quite great solution, imo..
there is not much difference between Cs 1.6 and CSP. CSP is some kind of copy for me
why would you change to CSP from 1.6 if the game is exactly the same.. i want a new game, not 1.6 with a little better graphics
Because it's a sport that's dying, however, we want to make it survive with new graphics?
A sport doesn't get boring for a long time.
A sport doesn't get boring for a long time.
A lot of "new games" get released every month. Go for them.
I want the famous and amazing gameplay of 1.6 with improved graphics, new features (e.g. CSPTV), better netcode and improvements like money-of-teammates-in-scoreboard and showing-teammates-in-HUD. Some new balanced maps would be nice too.
I want the famous and amazing gameplay of 1.6 with improved graphics, new features (e.g. CSPTV), better netcode and improvements like money-of-teammates-in-scoreboard and showing-teammates-in-HUD. Some new balanced maps would be nice too.
All public servers are empty, thats sad! :/
Can you just please realize that they stopped giving sponsorship because you, the community doesnt watch the streams, it cost more money then it gives. I mean, Dota2 had 60k viewers while Cs had 22k at its most. some cases the viewers where down to 5k. So, im not trying to defend CS:GO in any way. I just find it a bit funny that its your fault whos not watching.
If you think im wrong, please say it in a mature way.
Thank you =)
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If you think im wrong, please say it in a mature way.
Thank you =)
Post edited 2012-06-19 00:07:34
It's not all about numbers. Companies care about the demographic they are reaching (the people who are watching and how they can be targeted by their advertising).
Without trying to sound too condescending towards a certain nation as a product developer I would rather 5,000 people from the United States or United Kingdom seen my products than 40,000 from Eastern Russia or Moldova.
Most of the remaining 1.6 scene come from countries less developed than those playing more modern and advanced games (I'm not even talking about CS:S here). The reason support for 1.6 is dropping is because the people still playing and watching it can't buy the shit being advertised.
Without trying to sound too condescending towards a certain nation as a product developer I would rather 5,000 people from the United States or United Kingdom seen my products than 40,000 from Eastern Russia or Moldova.
Most of the remaining 1.6 scene come from countries less developed than those playing more modern and advanced games (I'm not even talking about CS:S here). The reason support for 1.6 is dropping is because the people still playing and watching it can't buy the shit being advertised.
Some big company needs to supports them, CSP developers, so things could be fast, until than, i see no hope.
Unfortunately there's a problem with your argument.
Nobody in our community cares about graphics - if it were up to us, we'd just keep playing 1.6 and there'd be no need for Promod in the first place.
As for sponsors, if they don't support 1.6 with its fairly large (for an FPS game) user base, they're not going to support Promod with its less-than-or-equal-to-1.6 user base. If 1.6 dies, they will support the latest retail version of the game because that's where they hope new players will come from.
There are three possibilities.
1) The industry wins, everybody switches to GO and it becomes the new esports FPS standard.
2) The community resists, GO fails after a year, the former 1.6 community is bitter and fragmented, and major events stop featuring FPS games entirely.
3) The community resists by increasing its support for 1.6, forcing tournaments to pick it up again.
Options 1 and 2 are the most likely, and 3 is basically a pipe dream. But none of them really leave any room for Promod. It may be 1.6's better child, but it's still a bastard.
:/
Nobody in our community cares about graphics - if it were up to us, we'd just keep playing 1.6 and there'd be no need for Promod in the first place.
As for sponsors, if they don't support 1.6 with its fairly large (for an FPS game) user base, they're not going to support Promod with its less-than-or-equal-to-1.6 user base. If 1.6 dies, they will support the latest retail version of the game because that's where they hope new players will come from.
There are three possibilities.
1) The industry wins, everybody switches to GO and it becomes the new esports FPS standard.
2) The community resists, GO fails after a year, the former 1.6 community is bitter and fragmented, and major events stop featuring FPS games entirely.
3) The community resists by increasing its support for 1.6, forcing tournaments to pick it up again.
Options 1 and 2 are the most likely, and 3 is basically a pipe dream. But none of them really leave any room for Promod. It may be 1.6's better child, but it's still a bastard.
:/
Or people try CS:GO, get disappointed about its gameplay, go back to 1.6 but can't endure the ugly graphics anymore and then try CSPromod -> the beginning of a love-story.
A lot of 1.6 players (like me) will switch anyway with the first out-of-beta-version and since CSP is for free a lot of people who never played any kind of CS before will give CSP a shot.
A lot of 1.6 players (like me) will switch anyway with the first out-of-beta-version and since CSP is for free a lot of people who never played any kind of CS before will give CSP a shot.
A lot of players may switch, indeed. However, for Promod to succeed where 1.6 failed (if it does fail), every 1.6 player needs to switch, and a whole bunch of completely new ones need to sign up too. I think that's unlikely.
.. but unfortunately our only hope for seeing a good competitive shooter in the future. So we should definitely go for it.
My point was: I think we have a better (though still slim) chance if we stick with 1.6. I'm not saying anything negative against Promod though :)
Chance for what? Let's be honest: The CS 1.6 community is still healthy, but young kids (at least in Europe and North America) don't start playing CS anymore and therefor we got a lack of young players.
I'm playing CS now for 12 years. When I started I was 13. You won't find 13 old kids on European servers nowadays. But without those annoying kiddies, CS won't have any future.
I played COD on PS3 some days ago (terrible game) and I constantly heard kids screaming in ingame-voice. It's a long time since I saw/heard that in 1.6.
CSP may not have the "look" young kids are searching for, but it's definitely more appealing to them than 1.6 (btw: the same goes for CS:GO: if a young kids see some footage of the new BF3 Closeqauterswhatever and then this fat and retarded CS:GO-models they will definitely go for BF). But games like TF2 and Minecraft showed that as long as it's free and fun (what CSP definitely is), it still can be successful.
Maybe the CSP-team should search for someone who's doing some nice artwork and promotion-stuff for CSP.
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I'm playing CS now for 12 years. When I started I was 13. You won't find 13 old kids on European servers nowadays. But without those annoying kiddies, CS won't have any future.
I played COD on PS3 some days ago (terrible game) and I constantly heard kids screaming in ingame-voice. It's a long time since I saw/heard that in 1.6.
CSP may not have the "look" young kids are searching for, but it's definitely more appealing to them than 1.6 (btw: the same goes for CS:GO: if a young kids see some footage of the new BF3 Closeqauterswhatever and then this fat and retarded CS:GO-models they will definitely go for BF). But games like TF2 and Minecraft showed that as long as it's free and fun (what CSP definitely is), it still can be successful.
Maybe the CSP-team should search for someone who's doing some nice artwork and promotion-stuff for CSP.
Post edited 2012-06-19 03:10:16
edit:
I also know a lot of players who stopped playing 1.6 (after so many years you get a bit sick of the same textures over and over again), but who definitely would give CSP a shot. If we ALL support this game and play it after it's release whe could start a new era. Maybe we fail, but at least we tried.
Also:
CSP gives us an opportunity we never had before: A game that is in our (the esport-community's) hand and independent from the decisions of any game-developer-studio. That's huge cause the addiction to game-developers was always a huge problem for the esport. That's why people already asked in 2003 on gotfrag for a Promod, which is independent from Valve. Since 11 years we have to deal with a bugged HLTV just because Valve doesn't see any reason to fix it (why should they? it doesn't bring them money and they want to get rid of CS 1.6 anyway). If the game would have been ours, we would have way better tools to watch matches today.
Post edited 2012-06-19 03:39:18
I also know a lot of players who stopped playing 1.6 (after so many years you get a bit sick of the same textures over and over again), but who definitely would give CSP a shot. If we ALL support this game and play it after it's release whe could start a new era. Maybe we fail, but at least we tried.
Also:
CSP gives us an opportunity we never had before: A game that is in our (the esport-community's) hand and independent from the decisions of any game-developer-studio. That's huge cause the addiction to game-developers was always a huge problem for the esport. That's why people already asked in 2003 on gotfrag for a Promod, which is independent from Valve. Since 11 years we have to deal with a bugged HLTV just because Valve doesn't see any reason to fix it (why should they? it doesn't bring them money and they want to get rid of CS 1.6 anyway). If the game would have been ours, we would have way better tools to watch matches today.
Post edited 2012-06-19 03:39:18
You aren't in charge
And neither are you, you're just a failed "journalist".
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Post edited 2012-06-19 02:17:59
Wasup mad ginger?
It's STRONK and WRONK
On the other hand...
CS1.6 STRONK any other game WRONK
Easy.
Problem Europe?
On the other hand...
CS1.6 STRONK any other game WRONK
Easy.
Problem Europe?
americans, I just dont understand your tastes (ofc except some)
Tunisians, I just don't understand your tastes.(oh wait wtf is Tunisia? we never heard of it, forget it!!)
CS Promod is a GREAT game and if/when CS 1.6 dies, I hope CS Promod can somehow take its place - up for the team to deliver on this!
Really nice that you support this game. Hopefully we'll see you in a CSPromod tournament/showmatch very soon!! :D
CS:GO and Promod is the future fags..embrace it.
I do not understand why are you guys expressing such negativity and hatred towards CS:P.
I doubt any of you have even tried the game since the physics are COMPLETELY the same.
The models need to be remade a bit but still, I loved the ingame HUD as well as the better graphics.
Good luck CS:P developers, when 1.6 dies, I will play CS:P. Keep up the good work!
I doubt any of you have even tried the game since the physics are COMPLETELY the same.
The models need to be remade a bit but still, I loved the ingame HUD as well as the better graphics.
Good luck CS:P developers, when 1.6 dies, I will play CS:P. Keep up the good work!
Just a question, does it need high system requirement? Because I can run csgo on 25 fps and its just unplayable, but i can run cs 1.6 in 300 fps (I have ATI X1300/1500 series)
Its free, so try it. I think you will have about 60-70 fps in csp.
Along with next patch I wouldnt be that surprised if allrdy CS Promod > CS 1.6
CSPromod +1
CS:GO -1
(THNX LURRPIS HOPE IT WILL WORK!)
Post edited 2012-06-20 12:38:49
CS:GO -1
(THNX LURRPIS HOPE IT WILL WORK!)
Post edited 2012-06-20 12:38:49
Some developers need to tell us some prediction about when 1.09 and the first version out of beta gon be realease, they need to bring more news to the community.
CSP 4 years later:
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this feels exactly like 1.6 with added skins though i have played CSGO and i hate it's random recoil and its maps. I would definitely give CSP a try.
wanna stop?
cs 1.6 > all
cs 1.6 > all
I dare telling you the opposite in very close future.
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