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"I dont care about CS:GO"
2012-07-24 07:18
Hey HLTV.org! Its been a long time since my last blog, and I've missed writing blogs. Missed me?
This blog will mostly appeal to the community, asking questions about the future of competitive FPS in eSports.
Each and everytime I see a newspost or a hotmatch, with CS:GO in it, there's allways a lot of loyal CS 1.6 fans, who are writing "I dont care about CS:GO", hoping their comment will help stop CS:GO in getting big at some point.
Obviously, the activity of Counter-Strike 1.6 is falling in a dramatic rate, which is sad for all of us on this website, as we all are loyal 1.6'ers, who all love our game, and none of us wants to change our primary game.
But as we all know, everything and everyone has a start and an end. In Counter-Strike 1.6, the end is near, which is sad and all, but there's nothing we can do about it. We have GameGune comming up tomorrow, as one of the very last tournaments with CS 1.6 on the program, however, we will be seeing more tournaments in 1.6, as Game and Gadget Expo will be comming up in November in Fredericia, Denmark, which is arranged by the same guys behind Copenhagen Games aswell as FireCore LAN and probably also DreamHack Winter, possbily also with a Summer edition with 1.6 on the shedule.
What we dont know, is what will happend after those events.
Sponsors and organizations are pulling the plug on CS 1.6, and we need to move on at some point. We have a lot of oppitunities, we have StarCraft 2, LoL, DotA, HoN and a lot of other games we can play. But we also have Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and Counter-Strike Professionel Modification, aka CS:GO and CSP.
We all know that CS:GO will be featured at ESWC, as the only Counter-Strike game at the World Championshop in France, and national qualifiers are already being arranged. While on CSP's side, there's nothing new at all. No tournaments, not even small ladders online.
As the blog comes to an end, here's my conclusion:
CSP is a way better game than CS:GO, but then again, CS:GO is not a bad game, if you give it a chance - and Im sorry to say it, but CSP will never grow big. It has outdated graphichs and it has been underway for so long. Its just too late. CS:GO on the other hand is under development and it will be the next big thing without a doubt. No more 1.6, no more Source. Its a hard fact to face, but we have to, in order to keep FPS games alive as eSports.
What my goal with this blog is, that I hope you guys will think an extra time next time you write "I dont care about CS:GO" - because you might just care for the game at some point. I myself have a BETA key, and I have played it alot, and its really not as bad as people put it. It does suck, if you only play it for 4-5 hours, but if you play around at least 20 hours, and get used to it, its not that bad. Its actually quite fun.
CS:GO will never be CS 1.6. Neighter will CSP. But we need to move on. We had a good time with 1.6, but everything must have an end, life aswell as CS.
Sincerely
tHm
<3
This blog will mostly appeal to the community, asking questions about the future of competitive FPS in eSports.
Each and everytime I see a newspost or a hotmatch, with CS:GO in it, there's allways a lot of loyal CS 1.6 fans, who are writing "I dont care about CS:GO", hoping their comment will help stop CS:GO in getting big at some point.
Obviously, the activity of Counter-Strike 1.6 is falling in a dramatic rate, which is sad for all of us on this website, as we all are loyal 1.6'ers, who all love our game, and none of us wants to change our primary game.
But as we all know, everything and everyone has a start and an end. In Counter-Strike 1.6, the end is near, which is sad and all, but there's nothing we can do about it. We have GameGune comming up tomorrow, as one of the very last tournaments with CS 1.6 on the program, however, we will be seeing more tournaments in 1.6, as Game and Gadget Expo will be comming up in November in Fredericia, Denmark, which is arranged by the same guys behind Copenhagen Games aswell as FireCore LAN and probably also DreamHack Winter, possbily also with a Summer edition with 1.6 on the shedule.
What we dont know, is what will happend after those events.
Sponsors and organizations are pulling the plug on CS 1.6, and we need to move on at some point. We have a lot of oppitunities, we have StarCraft 2, LoL, DotA, HoN and a lot of other games we can play. But we also have Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and Counter-Strike Professionel Modification, aka CS:GO and CSP.
We all know that CS:GO will be featured at ESWC, as the only Counter-Strike game at the World Championshop in France, and national qualifiers are already being arranged. While on CSP's side, there's nothing new at all. No tournaments, not even small ladders online.
As the blog comes to an end, here's my conclusion:
CSP is a way better game than CS:GO, but then again, CS:GO is not a bad game, if you give it a chance - and Im sorry to say it, but CSP will never grow big. It has outdated graphichs and it has been underway for so long. Its just too late. CS:GO on the other hand is under development and it will be the next big thing without a doubt. No more 1.6, no more Source. Its a hard fact to face, but we have to, in order to keep FPS games alive as eSports.
What my goal with this blog is, that I hope you guys will think an extra time next time you write "I dont care about CS:GO" - because you might just care for the game at some point. I myself have a BETA key, and I have played it alot, and its really not as bad as people put it. It does suck, if you only play it for 4-5 hours, but if you play around at least 20 hours, and get used to it, its not that bad. Its actually quite fun.
CS:GO will never be CS 1.6. Neighter will CSP. But we need to move on. We had a good time with 1.6, but everything must have an end, life aswell as CS.
Sincerely
tHm
<3
:(
Very informative comment.
:)
"CSP will never grow big. It has outdated graphichs and it has been underway for so long."
Ehh CS:GO is built on the same engine as CS:S and Promod. So CS:GO has outdated graphics too ;)
Ehh CS:GO is built on the same engine as CS:S and Promod. So CS:GO has outdated graphics too ;)
Thats a lie. CSS, TF2, CSP, HL2 and Portal are build on a 2005 graphichs engine called the Source engine, while Portal 2 and also CS:GO is build on the 2009 version of the engine, called Source2, with way better graphichs.
There's no such thing as Source2 :)
I think you mean the 6th release version of this engine called - Source Engine 2009 or Source Engine 15.
But it is the same engine after all.
Btw Portal 2 is built on 2011 ver. of Source not the 2009 one.
I think you mean the 6th release version of this engine called - Source Engine 2009 or Source Engine 15.
But it is the same engine after all.
Btw Portal 2 is built on 2011 ver. of Source not the 2009 one.
true
u owned him....
nice buddy
"Thats a lie. CSS, TF2, CSP, HL2 and Portal are build on a 2005 graphichs engine called the Source engine"
2007 engine witch they updated in 2010
and that is what csgo is based on
Post edited 2012-07-24 10:16:14
2007 engine witch they updated in 2010
and that is what csgo is based on
Post edited 2012-07-24 10:16:14
CSP is on the 2007 one*
get your facts right
get your facts right
Let's put it this way then: CSP graphics suck ass.
How do you refute that?
How do you refute that?
dont think its all about the graphics. just look at the squares in 1.6 - nobody gives a fuck since it feelt great
... yes, but CS 1.6 is dying and is not attracting new players nor sponsors.
Protip: "nobody gives a fuck" if you're playing CSP or not, it is your constant anal attitude towards CS:GO that makes you appear as a spastic kid.
The new CS scene is WAY better off without people like you. :)
Protip: "nobody gives a fuck" if you're playing CSP or not, it is your constant anal attitude towards CS:GO that makes you appear as a spastic kid.
The new CS scene is WAY better off without people like you. :)
oh CSP cant put out good graphics .. really .... then what do you call this
http://cspromod.com/community/threads/4909-Why-do-..
http://cspromod.com/community/threads/4909-Why-do-..
Am I the only one who noticed this comment? Anywho, THE MAPS LOOK SO FRIGGIN AWESOME *_*
I do not support this idea,sorry :D
+1
"Missed me?"
no.
no.
Worst blog ever , I mean thanks for the advice to try a game before judging it lmao , I played CSGO for several hours and days and this game BLOWS HUGE DICKS.
And your blog is not only bad and boring , it's also misinformative : CSP graphics can be easily upgraded if only Valve allows the devs to use SDK 2009 and not 2007.
Cheers mate.
And your blog is not only bad and boring , it's also misinformative : CSP graphics can be easily upgraded if only Valve allows the devs to use SDK 2009 and not 2007.
Cheers mate.
Yeah, there's where you are wrong.
As Valve dont even support the CSP project, the graphics will never be upgraded.
CSGO does not "blow huge dick", you are just influenced by the 1.6 feeling, which is superior, yes, but CSGO is not bad at all. You are just blind, because you are used to 1.6.
But I dont blame you. If you wanna be stuck in a dead game forever, then be my guest.
As Valve dont even support the CSP project, the graphics will never be upgraded.
CSGO does not "blow huge dick", you are just influenced by the 1.6 feeling, which is superior, yes, but CSGO is not bad at all. You are just blind, because you are used to 1.6.
But I dont blame you. If you wanna be stuck in a dead game forever, then be my guest.
For your last sentence : sorry for playing a game I still have fun playing and not being forced to play a shit game cause every cocksucking organisation is hosting it.
And btw I'am playing shootmania aswell which is like 10000x times more fun than CSGO.
So yeah enjoy your NEW game as much as you can till it's gonna fail as much as condition zero.
And btw I'am playing shootmania aswell which is like 10000x times more fun than CSGO.
So yeah enjoy your NEW game as much as you can till it's gonna fail as much as condition zero.
The only part of that comment I am not laughing about, is where you say "sorry for playing a game I still have fun playing and not being forced to play a shit game cause every cocksucking organisation is hosting it." - totally agree, that you should keep playing CS, untill its completely dead.
But I can only laugh, when you say CS:GO will fail as much as CZ and this "shootmania" game is better than CS:GO. Its not even better than Source lol.
But I can only laugh, when you say CS:GO will fail as much as CZ and this "shootmania" game is better than CS:GO. Its not even better than Source lol.
lol , I had to pause my film cause this literraly killed me .
Anyway I'am not gonna argue with a kid , so here are some numbers :
Shootmania players : 40 460 (I can provide screens )
CSGO players : peak today : barely over 1500.
Dont forget all the publicity about CSGO , let me ask you why so few people are playing it compared to shootmania which is also in beta?
Anyway you must be some source kid thinking he can "go big" in CSGO , that just laughatble and pathetic :D
Post edited 2012-07-24 07:58:09
Anyway I'am not gonna argue with a kid , so here are some numbers :
Shootmania players : 40 460 (I can provide screens )
CSGO players : peak today : barely over 1500.
Dont forget all the publicity about CSGO , let me ask you why so few people are playing it compared to shootmania which is also in beta?
Anyway you must be some source kid thinking he can "go big" in CSGO , that just laughatble and pathetic :D
Post edited 2012-07-24 07:58:09
Hahaha Im no Source kid. Gotta rofl there.
But yeah, not many are playing CS:GO atm, but then again, not many have a beta key.
Shootmania is nothing like CS, there no such thing as tactic in it. I saw the match played at E3, where Joe commentated and SpawN was playing, but it is nothing like CS. The guy with the railgun just need good reflexes and a decent aim, and he will win easily. Also, its 1v3 all the time, which basicly removes the tactical perspective as a team. Yes, you can create your own strats, but there will be no teamplay what so ever.
Also, keep in mind that its still early on the day (at least here, CET). There's plenty of time for people to play both games.
But yeah, not many are playing CS:GO atm, but then again, not many have a beta key.
Shootmania is nothing like CS, there no such thing as tactic in it. I saw the match played at E3, where Joe commentated and SpawN was playing, but it is nothing like CS. The guy with the railgun just need good reflexes and a decent aim, and he will win easily. Also, its 1v3 all the time, which basicly removes the tactical perspective as a team. Yes, you can create your own strats, but there will be no teamplay what so ever.
Also, keep in mind that its still early on the day (at least here, CET). There's plenty of time for people to play both games.
Sup I'am tHm , dont say CSGO is shit it's still beta many stuff is gonna change give it a chance, but hey Shootmania ( which is also in beta and has like 20X times more players ) is fucking garbage with no tactics based on a single game I watched .
Try again son.
Try again son.
Then tell me about the tactical perspective of Shootmania.
As tactical as quake , which is considered the best shooter of all time and plenty of big names from this game ( av3k , strenx , cooller etc ) already switched to it.
If you are really into tactic stuff try some RTS maybe , idk TT
If you are really into tactic stuff try some RTS maybe , idk TT
I thought so, you cant tell me anything about the tactical perspective, because there's no such thing.
man I dont know if you are trolling me or not , but I have to say you are quite annoying lol .
I am not gonna write a long speech about how a game is tactical or what makes a game tactical , you will probably be too dumb to undetstand and reply me with a another one-sentece-stupid-quastion.
I showed you SM > CSGO in term of numbers of players , the fact there is more or less tactics than in CS only matters to you it seems , cause only someone who never ever played a quake like will ask : "oh wait its less tactical than cs rofl so bad xd"
So yeah , enjoy your another CSS failure , now let me watch my film thanks in advance kiddo... -.-'
I am not gonna write a long speech about how a game is tactical or what makes a game tactical , you will probably be too dumb to undetstand and reply me with a another one-sentece-stupid-quastion.
I showed you SM > CSGO in term of numbers of players , the fact there is more or less tactics than in CS only matters to you it seems , cause only someone who never ever played a quake like will ask : "oh wait its less tactical than cs rofl so bad xd"
So yeah , enjoy your another CSS failure , now let me watch my film thanks in advance kiddo... -.-'
Who the fuck are you to call me a kiddo firstly.
Secondly, Im am pretty damn sure I know way more about CS than you, and Im willing to prove it with a debate, however its 08:50 CET right now, and I havent sleept yet, so I should probably do that first.
And I dont care if you think I am being annoying, but I dont care at all about your opinion. You are talking shit and Im putting you in your place.
Try me, tell me about the tactics of Shootmania.
Secondly, Im am pretty damn sure I know way more about CS than you, and Im willing to prove it with a debate, however its 08:50 CET right now, and I havent sleept yet, so I should probably do that first.
And I dont care if you think I am being annoying, but I dont care at all about your opinion. You are talking shit and Im putting you in your place.
Try me, tell me about the tactics of Shootmania.
"and Im putting you in your place."*
I have to admit you're cute haha.
Anyway good night , maybe try to answer that question by urself since you are the only one wondering about it ?
If not , check my previous replies :)
I have to admit you're cute haha.
Anyway good night , maybe try to answer that question by urself since you are the only one wondering about it ?
If not , check my previous replies :)
I dont get why you are having such a good time here. You have no argumentations and you are running away every time I ask you to tell me a bit about the game. There's no such thing as tactic perspective, and you know it.
The thing with Quake is, that you constantly must be avare of spawning armors, weapons, ammo etc., and you will know where your enemy will come all the time, if you know the maps, with the portals and such. Shootmania has no such thing, its just releasing people in an arena and killing them off.
But yeah, I guess that was my last comment for now. Catch you later, probably.
The thing with Quake is, that you constantly must be avare of spawning armors, weapons, ammo etc., and you will know where your enemy will come all the time, if you know the maps, with the portals and such. Shootmania has no such thing, its just releasing people in an arena and killing them off.
But yeah, I guess that was my last comment for now. Catch you later, probably.
yeah it has no such stuff as in quake , many people call this game being too "simple" : only 2,3 guns , no stuff to pick up , that true.
But me and the majority of people already playing this game consider this as something good , I always take stuff in a positive way you know.
Sure it's simple , but it may offer a new gameplay with mods that wont be compatible if you were able to pick up stuff.
Elite mode wouldnt work with the quake system , that for sure.
Concerning your oh so important tactics , I bet with the map editor ( dont forget it was made my trackmania developers ) soon enough you would be able to add new maps , new mods and therefore new tactics will be born.
And dont worry about me , I'm having a blast here :)
But me and the majority of people already playing this game consider this as something good , I always take stuff in a positive way you know.
Sure it's simple , but it may offer a new gameplay with mods that wont be compatible if you were able to pick up stuff.
Elite mode wouldnt work with the quake system , that for sure.
Concerning your oh so important tactics , I bet with the map editor ( dont forget it was made my trackmania developers ) soon enough you would be able to add new maps , new mods and therefore new tactics will be born.
And dont worry about me , I'm having a blast here :)
Cooller has retired from professional gaming. Also, 1.6 is obviously considered the best shooter of all time :)
Don't even campare quake and shootmania. Cooller retired from professional gaming, he won't be playing any games. And the reason why are some quake pros switching is obvious - easy money. There are 4 top players in quake, 1 retired so 3 are left if they make shootmania team I have no trouble in guessing who is going to take that money.
One of the main things why quake is popular is movement. It's movement mechanics are SOOOOOOO FUCKING FUN. I can join server and just jump around map for 2 hours. In shootmania, however, movement is soo fucking bad.
Weapon variety:
shootmania - 3
quakelive - ~8 other weapons on competitve maps and there are few more weapons on fun maps
metagame complexity (from 1 to 10, in my opinion):
shootmania - 3
quakelive - 9
The only similarity between these games is shooting mechanic of railgun and rocket launcher
Post edited 2012-07-24 15:14:13
One of the main things why quake is popular is movement. It's movement mechanics are SOOOOOOO FUCKING FUN. I can join server and just jump around map for 2 hours. In shootmania, however, movement is soo fucking bad.
Weapon variety:
shootmania - 3
quakelive - ~8 other weapons on competitve maps and there are few more weapons on fun maps
metagame complexity (from 1 to 10, in my opinion):
shootmania - 3
quakelive - 9
The only similarity between these games is shooting mechanic of railgun and rocket launcher
Post edited 2012-07-24 15:14:13
battlefield 3 sales around 16 million copies and you can have more fun than in any other game on market in this moment...but the numbers don't say it all.
''CSGO players : peak today : barely over 1500''
i see what you know about this game.......nothing.
6618. players only on versus, from about 10.000 keys from the limited beta. The other 4000..or are kids, haters, whiners, or frustrated like you or they want to make money by selling them.
and than wtf?! i'm speaking with a japanesse guy about counter strike.
P.S and im not a sauce guy,i just want a FPS on the list of the main tournaments and actually promod 1.08 beta is the worst version of cs..i'm waiting for 1.09..and the game later.
''CSGO players : peak today : barely over 1500''
i see what you know about this game.......nothing.
6618. players only on versus, from about 10.000 keys from the limited beta. The other 4000..or are kids, haters, whiners, or frustrated like you or they want to make money by selling them.
and than wtf?! i'm speaking with a japanesse guy about counter strike.
P.S and im not a sauce guy,i just want a FPS on the list of the main tournaments and actually promod 1.08 beta is the worst version of cs..i'm waiting for 1.09..and the game later.
nice numbers , you must be some statistician right ? XD
Contrary to you I took my numbers from the official website , not from my dirty ass.
And Im sure I know more about cs than you , dont worry brah , but its not the topic here.
Contrary to you I took my numbers from the official website , not from my dirty ass.
And Im sure I know more about cs than you , dont worry brah , but its not the topic here.
no arguments...100% frustration
later, when i will take my laurea in psicology i will help you if you want.
about the last part....hmmmmmm bicoz...if you aren't delpan with the fake flag not even in your dreams.
p.s. the numbers are from sites
later, when i will take my laurea in psicology i will help you if you want.
about the last part....hmmmmmm bicoz...if you aren't delpan with the fake flag not even in your dreams.
p.s. the numbers are from sites
Im studying psychology as well.
Are you liking? What's the toughest subject for you?
Are you liking? What's the toughest subject for you?
csp 1.08 is the worst version of cs ? jesus , you really must be a saucer
yea, look at my profile im ''dA saucer''
if we want to talk about promod, lets talk.
bad player models, bad player animations, they move like michael jackson if you payd attention, same recoil as in 1.6 but with that movement....hmmm let me think its like 1 bmw between 2 ferrari => DON'T MATCH.
I don't know why but when im looking at it.. i remember those counter strikes non steams that were modificated 4-5 years ago by amateurs.
just be real, it need a lot of improvement,just like GO from my point of wiew, more.
if we want to talk about promod, lets talk.
bad player models, bad player animations, they move like michael jackson if you payd attention, same recoil as in 1.6 but with that movement....hmmm let me think its like 1 bmw between 2 ferrari => DON'T MATCH.
I don't know why but when im looking at it.. i remember those counter strikes non steams that were modificated 4-5 years ago by amateurs.
just be real, it need a lot of improvement,just like GO from my point of wiew, more.
did you played the version 1.09 ?
yeah , i know that the players models suck , but in 1.10 [i think it's that the correct version] , they will be modified
in 1.09 the recoil was really good , 1.6 like , and the movement was improved too , i really liked that version .
anyways expecting that it comes out quickly :)
yeah , i know that the players models suck , but in 1.10 [i think it's that the correct version] , they will be modified
in 1.09 the recoil was really good , 1.6 like , and the movement was improved too , i really liked that version .
anyways expecting that it comes out quickly :)
i can't wait for 1.09, and for the game,i didn't played it when it was opened.
i will go with the game that has more success in my country or in germany. at the moment i will stay with GO.
BTW last night i saw a guy killed with a flash in esl. HE GOT OWNED PROPERLY!!! ahahahaaha it made my day.
P.S. i bet that he is here saying he don't care about go
Post edited 2012-07-24 10:26:02
i will go with the game that has more success in my country or in germany. at the moment i will stay with GO.
BTW last night i saw a guy killed with a flash in esl. HE GOT OWNED PROPERLY!!! ahahahaaha it made my day.
P.S. i bet that he is here saying he don't care about go
Post edited 2012-07-24 10:26:02
you would love it , believe me :P
idk , maybe i'll play LoL , since my PC can't handle GO that much , or maybe shootmania , ill see :D
ahahah , i would love to see that , i know that you can flash/smoke/decoy boost , i've made a couple of boosts with the decoy and flash with a friend on de_nuke , pretty fun to do it , but its kinda hard to 1.6ers :P
idk , maybe i'll play LoL , since my PC can't handle GO that much , or maybe shootmania , ill see :D
ahahah , i would love to see that , i know that you can flash/smoke/decoy boost , i've made a couple of boosts with the decoy and flash with a friend on de_nuke , pretty fun to do it , but its kinda hard to 1.6ers :P
:D lol, sc2, dota2 are not for me... i tryed to play dota 2..and i got owned by bots:D. i don't have time and will to learn a new game. i will stay with the FPS.
"bad player models, bad player animations, they move like michael jackson" still better than source
+1
yeah the player models are made for the 1.6'ers just like the rest of the game but in particular they wouldnt touch on the models. that a big mistake from them. the models does not fit in the game. and imo they are smaller/thiner then in 1.6 / source? and the graphics of them are like their taken out of 1.6 640*480 and put in to source
the game needs a lot of improvements as you say.
Post edited 2012-07-24 10:30:28
the game needs a lot of improvements as you say.
Post edited 2012-07-24 10:30:28
i try just to be real and express my opinion. i'm not a hater of any game, i just want that this community remains unite.
i player model sono la cosa che rendono orrenda quel gioco, ti do ragione. Ma come gioco non è affatto male.
aspetto 1.09, speriamo in bene.
I played shootmania for ~20 hours in the past week, was really looking forward to it. But, as a pretty good quake and cs player, I find shootmania the worst game in history of "competitive" fps games EVER. It has ZERO depth. And their official competitive format... Yeah, it's new, they are experimenting but it's the stupidest thing ever.
And that argument about players kinda sucks because it depends on how many keys are handed out. On my friend list 1% people have CSGO, while anyone who signup on shootmania will get key after 1-2 weeks. I don't like CSS(never played it) and I am not playing 1.6 actively for half a year, but I won't judge csgo because I haven't played it. And from watching 2-3 games I like it pretty much actually. It has good spectating options, better netcode, all that stuff around the game are exellent. But some mechanics in gameplay need some tweaking/reworking.
And that argument about players kinda sucks because it depends on how many keys are handed out. On my friend list 1% people have CSGO, while anyone who signup on shootmania will get key after 1-2 weeks. I don't like CSS(never played it) and I am not playing 1.6 actively for half a year, but I won't judge csgo because I haven't played it. And from watching 2-3 games I like it pretty much actually. It has good spectating options, better netcode, all that stuff around the game are exellent. But some mechanics in gameplay need some tweaking/reworking.
ESWC has already adopted shootmania, which will be the next biggest first person shooter
I don't think so, shootmania looks like quake to me. If csgo gets as big as 1.6 then shootmania wont take the place of the biggest fps. imo
do you really believe in that? people are already saying they wont play CSP. 80 percent of this community wont play it... personally i will def play it
Well, idk what game I will follow on tournaments, but I know I will only play 1.6
Ill play both.. as far as CS;GO gives me the pleasuere which 1.6 gives.
CSP MAN! PLAY WITH ME BRO
Let's make a mix team!
FUCK YEA... VIETNAM DENMARK AND INDIA... xD
WE GON' WILD!
I'm serious, though. xD
I'm serious, though. xD
when csp full version released contact me :D
Sure... ;)
Im not gonna switch, stick to 1.6 before quiting following the matches even if there isnt too much nowadays or if not cs playing with the older versions of CoD/NFS Series with friends.
I dont bush cs:go cuz I didnt tried it,but I guess I didnt loose too much.
I prefer the older games which fits perfectly for me and my weak pc :D
I dont bush cs:go cuz I didnt tried it,but I guess I didnt loose too much.
I prefer the older games which fits perfectly for me and my weak pc :D
Old games are usually the best :p. But not for competitive eSports im afraid :/
For competetive play Im afraid there isn any sucesfull fps games except 1.6.
Maybe years letter cs:promod shines, but I doubt it. I think a lot of upcomming tournaments that removed 1.6 and future CS:GO will fail, because of the large 1.6 community and the spectators.
CS:GO can be competetive, but needs a bunch of update to make it a "likeable game".
Even CS:S guys says its a crap.
6-7 years back I skipped 2 years from 1.6 and switched to CoD, when the first versions was fresh (United Offensive example) and there was a lots of players, full slots and it was fun to play, exciting 5on5 matches and co.
This is what I miss from the new and upcomming games.Graphically gods, but the feeling is missing, which makes these games sucesfull.
Maybe years letter cs:promod shines, but I doubt it. I think a lot of upcomming tournaments that removed 1.6 and future CS:GO will fail, because of the large 1.6 community and the spectators.
CS:GO can be competetive, but needs a bunch of update to make it a "likeable game".
Even CS:S guys says its a crap.
6-7 years back I skipped 2 years from 1.6 and switched to CoD, when the first versions was fresh (United Offensive example) and there was a lots of players, full slots and it was fun to play, exciting 5on5 matches and co.
This is what I miss from the new and upcomming games.Graphically gods, but the feeling is missing, which makes these games sucesfull.
Well, I can tell you, that when I play CS:GO there's deffinetly a Counter-Strike feeling. And CSS players dont call it crap, why else would the top teams of the Source scene (teams like VeryGames, mousesport, mTw etc.) play the game when they get a chance?
hmm in my view the professional CS:S players not call it, but I know a lot of guys who call it crap, Ive tried cs:s, played some months with it, but when before those updates for kids came out.
CS:GO is more like CS:S than 1.6 but what about the other players/comminity who MUST switch and didnt realy like CS:GO or didnt even liked Source?
I think most of the players forced to switch because of the lack of sponsors and co, like what happening with 1.6 at the moment.
I saw only videos of the new cs, but it didnt realy catched me If I would be a professional player in source or 1.6 I would feel myself forced to switch from a game that I like to an another game which is the future, lots of money and sponsors, but I didnt realy like.
CS:GO is more like CS:S than 1.6 but what about the other players/comminity who MUST switch and didnt realy like CS:GO or didnt even liked Source?
I think most of the players forced to switch because of the lack of sponsors and co, like what happening with 1.6 at the moment.
I saw only videos of the new cs, but it didnt realy catched me If I would be a professional player in source or 1.6 I would feel myself forced to switch from a game that I like to an another game which is the future, lots of money and sponsors, but I didnt realy like.
you say you 'MUST' switch because money and sponsors change. that doesnt really make any sense to me. you will quit playing / making guis(:D) because the game is in the situation source was in 5 years ago? the game is still gonna be the same and that you cant enjoy without cs being #1 title in the world. :]
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Post edited 2012-07-24 11:51:46
"For competetive play Im afraid there isn any sucesfull fps games except 1.6."
Quake, E.T, CoD2/4, Halo, painkiller. thats just a small list of the top of my head, all old games
Quake, E.T, CoD2/4, Halo, painkiller. thats just a small list of the top of my head, all old games
they have never been NEAR close to cs 1.6 bro...
Quake and Painkiller have, they may not have lasted as long, in painkillers case, but multiple world championships.
Halo having a professional circuit with MLG and other big tournaments meant it was on par with 1.6, 1.6 isnt the be all and end all game the majority here think it is
Halo having a professional circuit with MLG and other big tournaments meant it was on par with 1.6, 1.6 isnt the be all and end all game the majority here think it is
hey bro, about fnatic gui, when you gonna release it?
If I know tibbse he's working on it right now :p. Otherwise, there's allways the official fnatic GUI.
in the weekends, I think Im gonna share it after Gamegune (saturday evening or sunday)
I had a bunch of (7-8) requests that Ive just finished since an hour after ESC gui.
So I didnt started it yet and Im in a little dilemma with their wallpaper :D
but gonna do it in the weekends.
I had a bunch of (7-8) requests that Ive just finished since an hour after ESC gui.
So I didnt started it yet and Im in a little dilemma with their wallpaper :D
but gonna do it in the weekends.
Nice blog, I think if CS 1.6 really dies I will switch to another game, I already tried Shootmania and the game is awesome, much better than CSGO.
The thing about Shootmania is, that its not tactical, and in some ways not even a team based game, but comes up to individual skills at all times basicly (when you are 1v3 with railgun). It dont fell like Quake, neighter does it feel like CS. Its just.. Strange.
i will follow all 3 games.
- 1.6 is ''the game'' but it comes to an end at competitive level. I hope for a ressurection:D
-those who are speaking bad about Global Offensive or they've played it and they got owned or they don't want to understand that this game don't want to be the copy of 1.6 but a mix[1.6,css,cod] to unite the communities and to represent the future.
-about promod i don't want to give my opinion because il will be negative..i will wait the game.
- 1.6 is ''the game'' but it comes to an end at competitive level. I hope for a ressurection:D
-those who are speaking bad about Global Offensive or they've played it and they got owned or they don't want to understand that this game don't want to be the copy of 1.6 but a mix[1.6,css,cod] to unite the communities and to represent the future.
-about promod i don't want to give my opinion because il will be negative..i will wait the game.
I don't care about CS:GO.
If CS dies competitively I will stick playing it and practicing, thats how I CS enjoyed like 8 years. I am not on the top level and I likely never will be.
If CS dies competitively I will stick playing it and practicing, thats how I CS enjoyed like 8 years. I am not on the top level and I likely never will be.
I'm not really a gamer as such. Probably, the only game i have ever played more than 40 hours is CS 1.6 because i fucking love it.
I played CSGO for around 30-40 hours as well but it doesn't feel as awesome to play. It's just some game trying to be Counter Strike. So, i'll just play 1.6 as long as i can find servers and decent opposition. Gaming for me will stop after that.
I played CSGO for around 30-40 hours as well but it doesn't feel as awesome to play. It's just some game trying to be Counter Strike. So, i'll just play 1.6 as long as i can find servers and decent opposition. Gaming for me will stop after that.
CS:GO sucks, thats it
Gonna move to Shootmania or LoL when 1.6 "dies"
btw
i dont care about cs:go
Gonna move to Shootmania or LoL when 1.6 "dies"
btw
i dont care about cs:go
To play Shootmania CS:GO is better LOL-.-''
To play LoL tetris is better :)
To play LoL tetris is better :)
you recon that we seek a game with better graphics than 1.6 ,csp has it. i doubt that cs:go can succeed cs 1.6... i'll give it try and many will but to me teh game fails at being an e-sport title, atm.
I liked CS:GO till I played a match in it. Suddenly, it seemed to feel exactly like source again. I will try get a team for this and play a few more games before giving up on it though, as yeah, CS is unfortunately dieng, and Promod won't catch on :(
i think it's a damn shame that cs1.6 has to go for it 'graphic' really since it's has an awsome gameplay , something i totally miss in cs:go to be honest that the only reason i will not switch to cs:go ..
How do you know that CS:GO won't be fail game ?
"300 Teams For ESWC Qualifier" article on cadred :)
same situation for source when it was released,and then big fail.
You don't know. It might, but it also might be the next best thing. Only time will tell because you know it's still in beta, I'm curious about the final result. But I hope it will succeed. Then the future generations would have a game too play like we did several years ago.
lol,why future generations cant play 1.6?
they just cba the commodore 64 graphics
thats not true,a lot of kids here with 7-10 years playing cs all day,they dont care about graphic,they want to have fun.
The number of kids that would like to play a game thats being droped out of tournaments and doesn't have a really bright future (and graphics of course) is not that big. So I think I answered your question
i never earned any money playing cs. i not a scared proffessional. im not trying to keep anything alive. i just wanna have fun, thats why i keep play cs1.6
it's true, it's not a bad game... it's a game like COD, or BF3, which are really good games, but it's just not what we want. why should we change to CS:GO when 1.6 dies? just because it has the same title? the same name? hell no, it's totally different, i don't give a fuck about the game, when 1.6 dies, and if i decide to stop playing it, i'd rather switch to sc2.
I have been playing this game (cs 1.6) for close to 10 years now (with a couple of larger breaks in between).
I honestly do not understand people who try to convince me that another game is good. It is a GAME, a GAME is suppose to be fun. If I have fun playing 1.6 i play 1.6, if I have fun playing source, I'll play source, same goes for the new cs version.
I think it's nice that YOU try to convince people that YOU think that the new cs is nice but it is THEIR decision what they like. Hell, why do you even care what they think, who gives a Fu...
I play the game that I want to, NOONE tells me what game I should like and you are no exception to that.
Of course people are scared that cs 1.6 will die and therefore bash other games which might take the topspot away, it's natural that people try to defend 1.6.
The same thing happend years ago when 1.5 was replaced by 1.6, every1 started crying and bitching about the new shields and weapons but in the end effect everyone got used to it and enjoyed the game and had FUN.
PLAYING and having FUN, lots of people seem to have lost the correlation between those two terms.
I honestly do not understand people who try to convince me that another game is good. It is a GAME, a GAME is suppose to be fun. If I have fun playing 1.6 i play 1.6, if I have fun playing source, I'll play source, same goes for the new cs version.
I think it's nice that YOU try to convince people that YOU think that the new cs is nice but it is THEIR decision what they like. Hell, why do you even care what they think, who gives a Fu...
I play the game that I want to, NOONE tells me what game I should like and you are no exception to that.
Of course people are scared that cs 1.6 will die and therefore bash other games which might take the topspot away, it's natural that people try to defend 1.6.
The same thing happend years ago when 1.5 was replaced by 1.6, every1 started crying and bitching about the new shields and weapons but in the end effect everyone got used to it and enjoyed the game and had FUN.
PLAYING and having FUN, lots of people seem to have lost the correlation between those two terms.
exactly, if we could save 1.6 we already would have.. but nobdy try! to give me that we should play CS:GO.. that is a completely different game than 1.6.. everybody decides what they wanna play after cs 1.6.. it is our decision nobody gives a shit about organizers that only concentrate on money..
i dont care that i dont care
Nice blog. Finally someone that thinks like me.
Thanks!
I love cs1.6 but now it's time to move on.
Thanks!
I love cs1.6 but now it's time to move on.
what is the point of playing a game you dont like ?
"CSP is a way better game than CS:GO, but ... ".
http://i46.tinypic.com/6xzwok.jpg
IMO CS:GO is terrible.
I'm just gonna play the game I enjoy the most. CSP is already a lot of fun and it's still getting better.
IHL and ESL are going to take it up, that's enough for me.
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http://i46.tinypic.com/6xzwok.jpg
IMO CS:GO is terrible.
I'm just gonna play the game I enjoy the most. CSP is already a lot of fun and it's still getting better.
IHL and ESL are going to take it up, that's enough for me.
Post edited 2012-07-24 15:09:18
If Valve just improve the textures, the models graphics, the visual effects of the smoke, the HE explosion, etc of the 1.6 version WITHOUT TOUCHIN MORE THINGS like the sound, the movement, the recoil, the maps, even come bugs like the duckwalk (that is, the gameplay that makes this game amazing) and sell the improved 1.6 just a little bit more expensive than the older 1.6, they will obtain so more money than with this Call of Duty shitty copy which they called "CS:GO" and is worse than a kick in the balls.
Sorry if I made mistakes, bad english and google tranlator ftw :)
Sorry if I made mistakes, bad english and google tranlator ftw :)
The GoldSrc is very limited when it comes to visual improvements. The only way is a newer engine.
Try CSPromod. It's gonna be exactly what you just described.
Try CSPromod. It's gonna be exactly what you just described.
CSPromod is a better game, it's free to play, you can play it lagfree up to 400ms, the graphics will always be updated (since the game can be ported to all new versions of the sourceengines and ever other engines).
CS:GO is a bad game, it's not f2p, you can't play lagfree up to 400ms, Valve won't update it's gfx after the release.
Carmac was really clear that every game, whether it's CSP, CS:GO or worms 7, needs to have players and spectators for them to pick it up.
So just PLAY and watch CSP and we'll have a good esportgame. Also the sourcefags won't get their game. That would make me really happy lol.
CS:GO is a bad game, it's not f2p, you can't play lagfree up to 400ms, Valve won't update it's gfx after the release.
Carmac was really clear that every game, whether it's CSP, CS:GO or worms 7, needs to have players and spectators for them to pick it up.
So just PLAY and watch CSP and we'll have a good esportgame. Also the sourcefags won't get their game. That would make me really happy lol.
if it become competitive, and it require true skill like 1.6 I will try it and play it alot. i still play quake today and if 1.6 "die" i will the same way play 1.6 sometimes, its the love of the game
as Game and Gadget Expo will be comming up in November in Fredericia, Denmark,
?another cs tournament in Denmark?
?another cs tournament in Denmark?
Yep. 2nd november this year if I remember correctly.
:D probably big as CPH Games? if it is, great :)
Its said to be as big, but you never know :): It will feature both 1.6, CSS and CS:GO, so its gonna be ecxiting to see if some of the 1.6 teams or Source teams are going to play CS:GO instead.
I rather watch starcraft or DoTa than CS:GO or CSP kinda crap.. 1.6 or fuck FPS games ktnx
I'll not support a half game like CSGO. This game sucks.
I rather play CSP if there is no more 1.6 tournaments.
Stop trying to make us swallowing this awful game. STOP!
I rather play CSP if there is no more 1.6 tournaments.
Stop trying to make us swallowing this awful game. STOP!
Fuck CS:GO/CS:P I don't care about these shitty games
Do you really think that CSP is a bad game?
Fuck it ! I love CS 1.6 , no need to replace it :(
dude, after reading some of your comments in this site, I think that your problem is that you don't have a social life. You are living too much the game, seriously.
well, I dont actually like the though of 1.6 dying. it will ofc, but I will never change the game until there is NO online leauges and LANs of the game, that is just how much i love it. but I wont say CS:GO is shit, bcuz i've actually never tried it. so when it is really big, THEN i'll switch.
+1 except i have a key and the game is a joke
QUIT WHINING, KEEP PLAYING THE GAMES YOU ENJOY.
CS GO is the future, start playing it and deal with it, 1.6 is old crap that needs to go away as an old virus
Maybe you should go away as an old virus.. cs 1.6 has brought us the eSport. CS 1.6 has done great things that no game has ever done before and most likely will never do.. If this is the time to end it than this is it. Do no try to talks us into this waste CS:GO.. it is ridiculous..
Let's assume you play CS 1.6 your "whole life", and now suddenly, you want to switch game you love and played some many hours to some real life graphic sh**.
First, it's a game, not real life, games didn't have to be "real life" ,that's why we call it GAMES.
I think you want to change CS 1.6 to CS:GO because you suck at CS 1.6, annd now you see opportunity in this awful CS:GO game.
And don't say: "Hey, you are frustrated!" or something like that, because I'm not, I'm only want to express my opinion about CS 1.6 > CS:GO debate.
Btw, nice blog, but, CS:GO want live, so don't get to excited.
Cheers!
First, it's a game, not real life, games didn't have to be "real life" ,that's why we call it GAMES.
I think you want to change CS 1.6 to CS:GO because you suck at CS 1.6, annd now you see opportunity in this awful CS:GO game.
And don't say: "Hey, you are frustrated!" or something like that, because I'm not, I'm only want to express my opinion about CS 1.6 > CS:GO debate.
Btw, nice blog, but, CS:GO want live, so don't get to excited.
Cheers!
What a stupid blog. It's like that you're pro and earning money by playing CS. No one can force people to play CS:GO. We didn't start playing 1.6 because of events like WCG. We started to play because we liked
Worst blog I have ever read.. Not because you are trying to talk us into playing CS:shitGO.. Because it is terribly misinformative... CS:GO's graphic is not new at all.. But many many people have told you this little detail you have been missing... cs 1.6 is a completely different game from CS:GO. I would rather play cod 4 or something else 1000 times than CS:GO... Just like you said everything ends at some point which is fully right. 1.6 ends here it was good while it lasted.. but nobody try! to give me that CS:GO is good and everything.. NO IT IS SHIT FOR ME AND FOR MANY PEOPLE that is it. It is our own opinion about it. Let people close 1.6 in their mind and decide what they wanna play in the future.
"we need to move on at some point."
Who are "we"? Are you pro gamer? Casual gamers like 99% of this website play games for enjoyment and not for paychecks. CS:GO is not a replacement for 1.6 It's just a new FPS title being promoted by Valve. By that idea, we should move to CoD, because it gets a lot of attention too? Learn the definition of "game" please. There is a reason why legendary NES games are still being played. Your blog is pointless.
Who are "we"? Are you pro gamer? Casual gamers like 99% of this website play games for enjoyment and not for paychecks. CS:GO is not a replacement for 1.6 It's just a new FPS title being promoted by Valve. By that idea, we should move to CoD, because it gets a lot of attention too? Learn the definition of "game" please. There is a reason why legendary NES games are still being played. Your blog is pointless.
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