Fnatic FragOut League Season 2
HLTV Ip's
-
(252)
(3)
(25)
(8)
(28)
(9)
(13)
(4)
(62)
(394)
(2)
(102)
(72)
(26)
(1)
(1)
(18)
(227)
(30)
(3)
(259)
(1)
(162)
(24)
(12)
-
-
-
deStrO
pRopaaNS
FACEIT
moxierawr
tweeday
eSportEurope-
-
(944)(53)(9)(2)
-
Epsilon16
Virtus.pro11
Anexis16
CPH Wolves7
ESC Gaming16 fnatic4
Wizards16 Epsilon9 zNation16 dAT6 Anexis16 Virtus.pro14 Epsilon16 Anexis3 CPH Wolves15 Wizards15 fnatic0 Western Wolves2 Virtus.pro16 Wizards12 -
-
-
vENdetta
cadred.org and bad journalism
2012-06-18 20:42
Well, I think its time to expose the terrible journalism that is going on in e-sports these days. I will just show you facts, so you don't have to agree with my opinion, you just look at the facts, and you make your conclusions.
FACT #1
Back in 2010, journalists from that site where trashtalking the 1.6 community and promoting the usual ' 1.6 will die ' argument.
Evidence: www.hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=56376
Question: Why would they do that?
FACT #2
Back in 2010, journalists from that site where spreading rumors (false ones of course) about IEM picking up CS:Source as the main title.
Evidence: www.cadred.org/News/Article/117054/
Question: Why would they do that?
FACT #3
Back in 2011, some cadred journalist started to trashtalk our game / community in HLTV.org`s forums.
Evidence: i39.tinypic.com/r85fef.jpg
Question: Why would they do that?
FACT #4
In 2012, some cadred journalist wrote an article about the ' death of 1.6 ' and how he would enjoy the day it happens.
Evidence: i42.tinypic.com/fjme6e.jpg
Question: Why would they do that?
FACT #5
In 2012, some cadred journalist published rumors (false ones, again) about SK-gaming disbanding, dropping 1.6 and moving to CS:GO.
Evidence: www.cadred.org/News/Article/178731/
Question: Why would they do that?
*** GeT_RiGhT himself told HLTV.org that it was false ***
Evidence: www.hltv.org/news/8715-get-right-slams-csgo-team-rumor
FACT #6
In 2012, they published pretty much ONLY ' bad news ' about 1.6. DreamHack 2012 just finished a few hours ago, with fnatic winning it, and you see no mention or coverage to that 1.6 event, but you see newspost about IEM dropping 1.6, WCG dropping 1.6, SK dropping 1.6, etc.
Evidence: i49.tinypic.com/igavbb.jpg
Question: Why would they do that?
FACT #7
In 2012, they said fnatic should drop 1.6.
Evidence: www.cadred.org/News/Article/167087/
Question: Why would they do that?
TBH, there is more, I'm just tired about writting it.
Don't take my opinion on it, just read the articles, and look at the facts. Make your own conclusion about it.
FACT #1
Back in 2010, journalists from that site where trashtalking the 1.6 community and promoting the usual ' 1.6 will die ' argument.
Evidence: www.hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=56376
Question: Why would they do that?
FACT #2
Back in 2010, journalists from that site where spreading rumors (false ones of course) about IEM picking up CS:Source as the main title.
Evidence: www.cadred.org/News/Article/117054/
Question: Why would they do that?
FACT #3
Back in 2011, some cadred journalist started to trashtalk our game / community in HLTV.org`s forums.
Evidence: i39.tinypic.com/r85fef.jpg
Question: Why would they do that?
FACT #4
In 2012, some cadred journalist wrote an article about the ' death of 1.6 ' and how he would enjoy the day it happens.
Evidence: i42.tinypic.com/fjme6e.jpg
Question: Why would they do that?
FACT #5
In 2012, some cadred journalist published rumors (false ones, again) about SK-gaming disbanding, dropping 1.6 and moving to CS:GO.
Evidence: www.cadred.org/News/Article/178731/
Question: Why would they do that?
*** GeT_RiGhT himself told HLTV.org that it was false ***
Evidence: www.hltv.org/news/8715-get-right-slams-csgo-team-rumor
FACT #6
In 2012, they published pretty much ONLY ' bad news ' about 1.6. DreamHack 2012 just finished a few hours ago, with fnatic winning it, and you see no mention or coverage to that 1.6 event, but you see newspost about IEM dropping 1.6, WCG dropping 1.6, SK dropping 1.6, etc.
Evidence: i49.tinypic.com/igavbb.jpg
Question: Why would they do that?
FACT #7
In 2012, they said fnatic should drop 1.6.
Evidence: www.cadred.org/News/Article/167087/
Question: Why would they do that?
TBH, there is more, I'm just tired about writting it.
Don't take my opinion on it, just read the articles, and look at the facts. Make your own conclusion about it.
That's the impression I've always had about cadred. They seem to care more about what others play rather than about what they themselves play. Just live and let live :)
They're all jelly. That's it.
lol people really read on cadred? fail
What the f****k is Cadred.org? Never heard of it :S
Lucky guy.
Do you know what is?
http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv51/nochance19..
searched in google trends and didn't show anything
:S
http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv51/nochance19..
searched in google trends and didn't show anything
:S
prob one of the best finnish CS:S teams used to play under the name of Insignia Cadre.
same here... see this 1st time ...
+1 lol
the majority of their traffic comes from 1.6 players coming to see what they expect (1.6 bashing). at the expense of proper journalism their sites and ads get more hits. not posting positive things about 1.6, well that's just a pride thing i guess.
Jesus, thats a shame as far as journalism goes. What a fail from cadred. Failed attention whores journalists. They are probably old and fat if you ask me, that could be a reason...
CS:S not succeeding as an esportgame have led to this. HLTV.org are really professional since they have more experience from working in the "big leagues".
Cadreds journalists however are unprofessional because they lack experience and are covering a really small scene which doesn't allow them to develop journalism skills.
CS:S is right now where 1.6 was in 2000. :P
Cadreds journalists however are unprofessional because they lack experience and are covering a really small scene which doesn't allow them to develop journalism skills.
CS:S is right now where 1.6 was in 2000. :P
I'd say more like 2001/2002 somewhere between
Well, I guess against those evidence, the only conclusion is that cadred.org and their journalists are fucking bad / ignorants. Nothing good can come out of such retarded jousnalism like that. They are probably killing their website by acting in such a child way, and they don't even know it. No one respects people like that, their reputation is zero.
It is a real shame because they do have good writers, the constant negative talk about 1.6 just makes them look like idiots, especially considering they have said that they consider it to be a better game than Source... :D
But hey, I guess nothing is happening in Source as usual.
But hey, I guess nothing is happening in Source as usual.
+1337
http://i.imgur.com/XUk6r.jpg CSS fanboys :D
I just e-mailed HeavenMedia about this blog, looks like they own cadred... I doubt it will change anything, since they are probably as pathetic as their journalists, so its just a long shot. cadred has NO credibility at all, its a joke of a site.
You have got to be joking. "However, there was no direct quote from get_right in the article"
He's at a LAN venue with people who work with hltv.org and probably has some of these people added on steam for that matter. The users are even so dumb they consider this to be a lie. Saying that he was lying and it's going to happen.
He's at a LAN venue with people who work with hltv.org and probably has some of these people added on steam for that matter. The users are even so dumb they consider this to be a lie. Saying that he was lying and it's going to happen.
Comments of that article - loled hard.
wow this website is evil
I didn't know all roumors had to be true and tbh HLTV aint any better. They also make alot of misstakes.
Post edited 2012-06-18 21:34:23
Post edited 2012-06-18 21:34:23
If you ask me, those retarded journalists at carded ended up killing their own website. The way things are going, I can bet my left ball that if CS:GO shines, HLTV.org will be the dominant portal for that game, just as it is for 1.6...
I bet they broke posting records for one day, they almost got 20 on one of their newposts.
=D
Read #2, wasn't a bad article at all TBH. It was a speculation article old rakaka style.
#4 Shows respect for 1.6 and talks about how some of the community is stupid, which I agree with, don't agree with the last paragraph though.
Well, #5 is based off a rumor from another webstie so that one doesn't seem to be there fault.
and #6 is easy to figure out since they aren't a 1.6 website. So I honestly don't care if they post "good" 1.6 news since that is what HLTV.org does and why I visit it.
#7 another old rakaka style article/opinion piece. I don't care to much about those.
I'll be honest and say every once in a while I go to cadred and read an article or two because they are honestly well written(even if I don't always agree with the content). The thing I don't get is why anyone here even goes to cadred if they write about games they enjoy watching/playing? Why the fuck don't you just not read it. You talk about how "small" or "insignificant" cadred is so why would you care if they shit on 1.6 once and a while?
#4 Shows respect for 1.6 and talks about how some of the community is stupid, which I agree with, don't agree with the last paragraph though.
Well, #5 is based off a rumor from another webstie so that one doesn't seem to be there fault.
and #6 is easy to figure out since they aren't a 1.6 website. So I honestly don't care if they post "good" 1.6 news since that is what HLTV.org does and why I visit it.
#7 another old rakaka style article/opinion piece. I don't care to much about those.
I'll be honest and say every once in a while I go to cadred and read an article or two because they are honestly well written(even if I don't always agree with the content). The thing I don't get is why anyone here even goes to cadred if they write about games they enjoy watching/playing? Why the fuck don't you just not read it. You talk about how "small" or "insignificant" cadred is so why would you care if they shit on 1.6 once and a while?
Looks like your standards are really low if you think that shit something even close worth to be called a "well written article".
I never said any of the articles quoted were well written. I said they produce some well written articles. They are on par with what HLTV.org produces(when they actually write very long articles)
cadred write shity articles men
yes of course they do. I would love to see you do better.
that its not my job. ^^
Not mine either, but I would hardly call Cadred writing "shitty articles" when the majority of them use pretty perfect english, well informed facts, good use of arguments, and clear and concise points to back it all up.
Not to mention the use of the word opinion, and how it is reflected in said articles.
Not to mention the use of the word opinion, and how it is reflected in said articles.
Right..........
just read the opinion of the others 300 guys who say the contrary.
i dont need to say anything more, just read it :D
just read the opinion of the others 300 guys who say the contrary.
i dont need to say anything more, just read it :D
300 clueless guys who are bad at reading and writing. Check the thousands of users who enjoy Cadred, need I say more?
yes, you website sucks.
haha, you don't know anything about CS:S and cadred.org, I played CS:S and I read cadred is a good page imo..
CS:S its death.
people who play CS:S is bad in CS (generaly)
on spanish:
sos un pt en el cs 1.6 SEGURO.
people who play CS:S is bad in CS (generaly)
on spanish:
sos un pt en el cs 1.6 SEGURO.
haha, I played CS:S against FalleN, shemp7 and maybe others cs 1.6 top players from brazil, you are flaming a website that you ever didn't read in your life.
btw,your "spanish" comment argue that you are an argentinian n00b, ty.
Post edited 2012-06-19 19:54:19
btw,your "spanish" comment argue that you are an argentinian n00b, ty.
Post edited 2012-06-19 19:54:19
CS:S? fallen dont play CS:S stupid idiot.
you dont know me, and CS:S its death.
In steam cs:s its lower of cs 1.6
el css esta por debajo del cs 1.6, segui jugando ese juego pt, seguro que no pegas un carajo en el cs 1.6 por eso te pasaste al source.
you dont know me, and CS:S its death.
In steam cs:s its lower of cs 1.6
el css esta por debajo del cs 1.6, segui jugando ese juego pt, seguro que no pegas un carajo en el cs 1.6 por eso te pasaste al source.
haha, fallen played CS:S moron...you don't know anything about it, search "Fallen:CS:S is more tactical than 1.6" in hltv...i know that CS:S is under 1.6, I love 1.6 and I played CS:S just for fun :),you don't know anything about this game (cs) shameless..
How is CSS dead, been alive competitively for ages you fool
competitively? JAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJJAJAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJAJAJ
i Dont say anymore, keep playing that game ^^
i Dont say anymore, keep playing that game ^^
Richard Lewis is one of the most ignorant journalists I've ever seen. Tbh, I wouldn't even call him a 'journalist'. He is more like a butthurted person who happens to write some words for a failed website, for a failed salary.
cadred.org - 45k registered users
hltv.org - 400k+
and they think they are better than hltv
gotta love hltv.org :D
Post edited 2012-06-18 21:54:42
hltv.org - 400k+
and they think they are better than hltv
gotta love hltv.org :D
Post edited 2012-06-18 21:54:42
faildred - 20 active users
HLTV.org - thousands of active users
HLTV.org - thousands of active users
haha 20 active users? maybe 200 times more
css had 1.5k viewers in eswc(CSS's biggest event)
1.6 had 75k viewers in iem.
1.6 had 75k viewers in iem.
eswc was nothing compared to cphgames, if you're going to state silyl facts such as that, do some research, wont even mention cgs statistics as you will just blow them away anyway
"eswc was nothing compared to cphgames"
Alrite, lets look at CS:S's numbers in CPH games 2012.
Here they are:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2zsw47c.jpg
and here:
http://www.hltv.org/blog/5198-css-failed-numbers
So, was that the "biggest" CSS shit in the latest years, after CGS died?
2K viewers?
HAHAHAA! sAucers are so easy to own... poor kids, humiliated again.
Alrite, lets look at CS:S's numbers in CPH games 2012.
Here they are:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2zsw47c.jpg
and here:
http://www.hltv.org/blog/5198-css-failed-numbers
So, was that the "biggest" CSS shit in the latest years, after CGS died?
2K viewers?
HAHAHAA! sAucers are so easy to own... poor kids, humiliated again.
Jelly
What a shame, how old are those failed cadred journalists? They can't be more than 16, really. Cadred should start hiring more mature journalists if they want their credibility back.
ye okay m8
http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1460009447/Prof..
16 years old c00l fam
Post edited 2012-06-19 13:31:30
http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1460009447/Prof..
16 years old c00l fam
Post edited 2012-06-19 13:31:30
All of those are clearly marked opinion pieces and rumors. Every reputable news orgs publish those. That does not make them disreputable.
That's not to say I don't think their opinion pieces are retarded.
That's not to say I don't think their opinion pieces are retarded.
there is VERY VERY little activity in cadred... its more like an abandoned website. They are just freaking out and afraid. Bad journalism is indeed the right way to describe what happens in there.
Post edited 2012-06-18 22:08:33
Post edited 2012-06-18 22:08:33
cadred is probably dying if you ask me... they can't survive for much longer with 20 active users in there... those bad journalists are one of the reasons that site is so bad.
Envy is fucked up.
Dude, I bet someone already open a thread in that site, and now they're laughing thinking they're right and cool, being always the shadow of 1.6
haha nobody is ever butthurt on cadred, but you guys always are.
Uhm well, you guys at cadred are always butthurt. That's why you always have the need of bashing our game.
HAHAHAH OH MY GOD HAHAHA
you guys are the ones that bash source ALL THE FUCKING TIME. it's like you guys run out of topic starters, and then somebody just makes a thread called 1.6 > css
you guys are the ones that bash source ALL THE FUCKING TIME. it's like you guys run out of topic starters, and then somebody just makes a thread called 1.6 > css
You'll have to be mentally ill to like CS:S over CS 1.6. Can't you see how fucked up that game is ?
you speak about mental illness, but have you actually read this thread?
and the majority at cadred enjoy 1.6 as much as they do source, no1 bashes it :/
and the majority at cadred enjoy 1.6 as much as they do source, no1 bashes it :/
The thing I see the most when I'm looking at Richard Lewis's personal comments is bad words towards 1.6 and its community. You couldnt be serious.
Honestly, when was the last time that someone on this forum has created a "1.6 > CS:S" thread? Doesn't happen as often as you'd like it to. Sure, many of the newsposts are full of comments like: "omfg css teh sux 1.6 for lyfe yo" etc etc. Sure, people are expressing themselves in a rather primitive manner, but I'm not opposed to people having such opinions. And I don't care if CSS players think the contrary.
And that's ultimately what it comes down to - the vast majority of people on this website don't give two shits about CSS, much like they don't give two shits about most games. 'Discussion' (typically a long shot to call it that though) on this website is very much 1.6-specific.
On the other hand - as this blog also exemplifies - websites like cadred believe themselves to be some kind of flag carriers representing the CS community as a whole. Speaking on behalf of themselves and on behalf of the 1.6 community about the future of CS. About how we are narrow-minded idiots to play this game, etc. Moreover, cadred typically masks these attacks under the cover of pseudo-intellectual rationale.
When was the last time you saw a newspost on HLTV.org about CSS? I cannot recall when. If they have something to say about 1.6 or HLTV then would be nice if it were positive. There's no mud-flinging from HLTV.org, so why cannot they reciprocate?
And that's ultimately what it comes down to - the vast majority of people on this website don't give two shits about CSS, much like they don't give two shits about most games. 'Discussion' (typically a long shot to call it that though) on this website is very much 1.6-specific.
On the other hand - as this blog also exemplifies - websites like cadred believe themselves to be some kind of flag carriers representing the CS community as a whole. Speaking on behalf of themselves and on behalf of the 1.6 community about the future of CS. About how we are narrow-minded idiots to play this game, etc. Moreover, cadred typically masks these attacks under the cover of pseudo-intellectual rationale.
When was the last time you saw a newspost on HLTV.org about CSS? I cannot recall when. If they have something to say about 1.6 or HLTV then would be nice if it were positive. There's no mud-flinging from HLTV.org, so why cannot they reciprocate?
Does any hltv.org admin or journalist ever ever posted anything bad about CSS ?
So why the registration? Just to say you aren't butthurt? And we're butthurt about what? Playing a better game? Following a more competitive scene? Having more teams, players and better prize money? Not to mention much more tournaments?
Following a game older than the kids who play source and still better than a game with less than half the age?
Ofcourse we are, we don't like that.
Following a game older than the kids who play source and still better than a game with less than half the age?
Ofcourse we are, we don't like that.
The only word comes to my mind when every time I see cadred ... is retarded
hahahaa so fucking funny, you guys actually think that cadred cares about hltv? we always have a good laugh at your horrible, horrible userbase.
atleast 3 threads a week appear on hltv, trying to bring cadred down, yet there is not a single thread ever about cadred users bashing on hltv users, kind of funny.
atleast 3 threads a week appear on hltv, trying to bring cadred down, yet there is not a single thread ever about cadred users bashing on hltv users, kind of funny.
But there's also no stupid article on HLTV about "CSS is dying!!11".
If Richard wouldn't come up with that shit once a month, we wouldn't even know about cadred.
Why does he even talk about 1.6? I mean there's absolutely no coverage about 1.6 on cadred, he's just expressing his hate towards 1.6 once a month by writing a shitty article. Like he's having his menstruation and hormones going wild.
If Richard wouldn't come up with that shit once a month, we wouldn't even know about cadred.
Why does he even talk about 1.6? I mean there's absolutely no coverage about 1.6 on cadred, he's just expressing his hate towards 1.6 once a month by writing a shitty article. Like he's having his menstruation and hormones going wild.
HAHAHA
you guys are the ones with menstruation problems, every single fucking time cadred even MENTIONS 1.6, you guys make 253 threads about it.
you dont even read his articles, do you?
you guys are the ones with menstruation problems, every single fucking time cadred even MENTIONS 1.6, you guys make 253 threads about it.
you dont even read his articles, do you?
Maybe because HLTV's fanbase is huge compared to cadred's small community? Of course the reaction on provocative stuff like those shitty articles is way more intensive than your reaction on some offensive comments.
Surely there is a difference between a low percentage of a userbase getting annoyed by articles and a journalist continuously calling a community retarded and only covering a game when it has something to do with it's death.
hahahahahahaa oh jesus another retard appears
first of all, yea richard lewis calls people retarded on here, because you know what? THEY ARE. and besides, do you even READ the admins comments on here? they do EXACTLY the same thing, but i guess people like you never see the other side of the story since all you care about is that little precious game of yours, which ofcourse will seem better in the eyes of the community when you bash on it's competitor, right?!?!?!?!
the percentage of people here making "1.6 > css" and OMG CADRED IS SO BAD WHAAH WHAAT SHITCHARD LEWIS AHAH OMG SO BAD JOURNALIST" is so much fucking higher here that i can't even begin to comprehend how you are able to tie your shoelaces without killing yourself every morning
first of all, yea richard lewis calls people retarded on here, because you know what? THEY ARE. and besides, do you even READ the admins comments on here? they do EXACTLY the same thing, but i guess people like you never see the other side of the story since all you care about is that little precious game of yours, which ofcourse will seem better in the eyes of the community when you bash on it's competitor, right?!?!?!?!
the percentage of people here making "1.6 > css" and OMG CADRED IS SO BAD WHAAH WHAAT SHITCHARD LEWIS AHAH OMG SO BAD JOURNALIST" is so much fucking higher here that i can't even begin to comprehend how you are able to tie your shoelaces without killing yourself every morning
Hey dude, Who the f**ck? are you and Who the f**ck is cadred. org?
http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv51/nochance19..
http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv51/nochance19..
He calls the 1.6 community retarded even though they play a game he himself calls superior to Source. Also, the 1.6 community isn't the same as HLTV.org.
I have seen the admins write here and I haven't seen anything close to those statements, but I am sure you have links. The larger a site gets, the more retards it will get, see YouTube... I don't really see how it is relevant though.
I have seen the admins write here and I haven't seen anything close to those statements, but I am sure you have links. The larger a site gets, the more retards it will get, see YouTube... I don't really see how it is relevant though.
The problem is not the game but the majority mentality of the people that plays it, he calls "us" retarded because some of "us" are really retarded
"Majority mentality" is usually based on the people who comment on this website, which is exactly my point... From my experience that is not how the average 1.6 player is.
yes , but we can easily remembers the bad things (or the worst qualities of something) than rather the good ones. for example when you see a player missing a tons of passes , you will easily remembers the passes he missed than rather the ones he did not miss
If cadred doesn't care about HLTV.org, then why you all the time speaking about HLTV.org in comments at cadred?
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/178742/ - read comments guys, welcome to cadred.
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/178742/ - read comments guys, welcome to cadred.
hahhahaaha its like you are too stupid to live.
OFCOURSE PEOPLE ON CADRED KNOW ABOUT HLTV.ORG, AND THEY OBVIOUSLY KNEW THAT A NEWS TITLE LIKE THIS WOULD ATTRACT ALOT OF USERS HERE HAHAHA OH JESUS
there are SOOOOOO many threads on here about cadred and css, and yet you guys say you dont care about the site or the game at all, thats kind of ironic.
the only time there is a thread about hltv.org on cadred is when you guys "attack" us with the usual 1.6 > css stuff, and we dont even give a fuck. we just play the game and have fun, but you guys can't seem to have fun when its just all about bashing on someone else's viewpoints.
OFCOURSE PEOPLE ON CADRED KNOW ABOUT HLTV.ORG, AND THEY OBVIOUSLY KNEW THAT A NEWS TITLE LIKE THIS WOULD ATTRACT ALOT OF USERS HERE HAHAHA OH JESUS
there are SOOOOOO many threads on here about cadred and css, and yet you guys say you dont care about the site or the game at all, thats kind of ironic.
the only time there is a thread about hltv.org on cadred is when you guys "attack" us with the usual 1.6 > css stuff, and we dont even give a fuck. we just play the game and have fun, but you guys can't seem to have fun when its just all about bashing on someone else's viewpoints.
Omg, why so mad? Are you security of cadred.org, or who the hell are you? Probably one of admins, no? Damn you mad! Relax, take it easy.
HAHAH im not security nor an admin of cadred, its just funny to see the ignorance of people like you.
Well I can say same things about you but man, why need to use so much capslock? Cant you just type as a normal lad? :))
rofl../.security Guard :P :P
You can say whatever you want, but HLTV articles are worst than those of Cadred.
Cadred journalists post a lot of articles, which we never even see here in HLTV, at HLTV everything we see is newsposts.
You can insult me all you want for this comment, but the truth is that the content on Cadred.org is 10000x better than that posted here.
You just hate them because they like CSS, you should take your 1.6 fanboy hats and start seeing things as they are.
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:34:45
Cadred journalists post a lot of articles, which we never even see here in HLTV, at HLTV everything we see is newsposts.
You can insult me all you want for this comment, but the truth is that the content on Cadred.org is 10000x better than that posted here.
You just hate them because they like CSS, you should take your 1.6 fanboy hats and start seeing things as they are.
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:34:45
+121313123213131
cadred actually cover 1.6 from time to time even
cadred actually cover 1.6 from time to time even
Probably because HLTV.org is a news- and event-coverage-site?
If you want to read in depth articles you should visit SK-gaming.com and read Thorin's articles.
btw: I miss gotfrag :(
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:43:30
If you want to read in depth articles you should visit SK-gaming.com and read Thorin's articles.
btw: I miss gotfrag :(
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:43:30
Yes but, i have no problem with HLTV, what I dont understand is why everyone here bashes Cadred ?
And what also I dont understand is how they can say their articles sucks, when those of HLTV are worst or non-existent.
And what also I dont understand is how they can say their articles sucks, when those of HLTV are worst or non-existent.
+112313132131 again.
i read almost all of the articles on cadred, and they are usually very well written.
the only reason hltv.org users are so fucking butthurt about cadred is that they think 1.6 is the better game.
i read almost all of the articles on cadred, and they are usually very well written.
the only reason hltv.org users are so fucking butthurt about cadred is that they think 1.6 is the better game.
I would like to see people like Thorin writing in depth stuff for HLTV, but a lot of people here don't. They want to read straight news and event-coverage.
Thanks god we don't have these "look at me, I'm an attention whore and I wrote a shitty article to express my irrelevant opinion"-articles like the one from Richard on HLTV.
I mean look at this idiotic article he wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/167087/
His proposing fnatic to drop their 1.6 cause "1.6 is going to die" (never heard that before) and the team will never be successful again:
"The problems within the fnatic line-up are many and it’s not going to be resolved by adding one player, no matter how talented."
"Fnatic were a dominant force in 1.6 but no longer ..."
"What hope a return to even close to the top spot?"
He wrote this article at 01 Feb 2012. Remember: 2011 fnatic won DH Winter, IEM Guangzhou, IEM Europe and got 2nd at MSI BEAT IT Russia.
Some guy commented:
"their "poor finishes" earned them $72.340 dollars last year.
yeah, it's time to pull the plug."
He answered:
"Right... And my point is they won't earn anywhere near that this year."
An other quote:
"It's saying this team won't win anything and will be trundling along in the dying days of 1.6"
Now fnatic just won DH Summer 2012, fnatic PLAY league 2012, Swedish Championship 2012 and Copenhagen Games 2012.
Richard Lewis: 0
Reality: 1
He should change his name to "Mohammed" cause he's constantly trying to be a prophet.
At least a lot of people on cadred disagreed with him.
I never saw an article on a 1.6-website that includes hate towards CSS (neither in english nor in french nor in german).
But in Richard's articles you can really feel his hate towards 1.6 in every sentence he writes (although he denies it).
Thanks god we don't have these "look at me, I'm an attention whore and I wrote a shitty article to express my irrelevant opinion"-articles like the one from Richard on HLTV.
I mean look at this idiotic article he wrote:
http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/167087/
His proposing fnatic to drop their 1.6 cause "1.6 is going to die" (never heard that before) and the team will never be successful again:
"The problems within the fnatic line-up are many and it’s not going to be resolved by adding one player, no matter how talented."
"Fnatic were a dominant force in 1.6 but no longer ..."
"What hope a return to even close to the top spot?"
He wrote this article at 01 Feb 2012. Remember: 2011 fnatic won DH Winter, IEM Guangzhou, IEM Europe and got 2nd at MSI BEAT IT Russia.
Some guy commented:
"their "poor finishes" earned them $72.340 dollars last year.
yeah, it's time to pull the plug."
He answered:
"Right... And my point is they won't earn anywhere near that this year."
An other quote:
"It's saying this team won't win anything and will be trundling along in the dying days of 1.6"
Now fnatic just won DH Summer 2012, fnatic PLAY league 2012, Swedish Championship 2012 and Copenhagen Games 2012.
Richard Lewis: 0
Reality: 1
He should change his name to "Mohammed" cause he's constantly trying to be a prophet.
At least a lot of people on cadred disagreed with him.
I never saw an article on a 1.6-website that includes hate towards CSS (neither in english nor in french nor in german).
But in Richard's articles you can really feel his hate towards 1.6 in every sentence he writes (although he denies it).
Ok, you dont like the article, fine, but that doesnt mean you should hate on Cadred as a site, as the article clearly states:
¨This column is the sole opinion of the author and does not represent the opinion of Heaven Media Ltd or the opinion of any affiliates.¨
It doesnt therefore represent the opinion of Cadred, only of Richard Lewis, so, why hate on Cadred, it is just a column ?
Also, that you do not like his opinion, doesnt make you right or him wrong ? You need to learn to respect the opions of others, that´s life.
The fact is that article is well written, the only thing is since you dont agree with his opinion you deem it to be a shitty article.
¨This column is the sole opinion of the author and does not represent the opinion of Heaven Media Ltd or the opinion of any affiliates.¨
It doesnt therefore represent the opinion of Cadred, only of Richard Lewis, so, why hate on Cadred, it is just a column ?
Also, that you do not like his opinion, doesnt make you right or him wrong ? You need to learn to respect the opions of others, that´s life.
The fact is that article is well written, the only thing is since you dont agree with his opinion you deem it to be a shitty article.
Uhm, I never said I hate cadred. I just said I don't think such articles are something HLTV needs, and I also said that Richard Lewis's articles are full of hate towards 1.6 and its community. I'm sorry but pure hate isn't an opinion and it's not his "opinion" what made this article such a huge fail, it's the fact that everything he predicted was/is false and obviously just a product of his hate towards 1.6 (why should he predict that fnatic 1.6 team will never be successful again and therefor dropped if he obviously knows nothing than shit about 1.6? I mean just some months before this article fnatic won the DH Winter 2011 ..).
Post edited 2012-06-19 00:20:00
Post edited 2012-06-19 00:20:00
how can be "well written" if he gives his opinion at the article? thats a bad journalism.
Because its a column, do you know what a column is ?
Can you explain me how that article is well written if it's full of bull?
The English there is better than that in newsposts on HLTV.org, but that's because the newsposters on HLTV are Danish, Swedish, Spanish, Finnish, etc. They all speak English as a 2nd-3rd language.
What really matters is the content and as demonstrated above, it's bullshit.
Honestly anyone who wants to call themselves a 'journalist' should be ashamed of the contents of many of Richard Lewis' articles (not all).
The English there is better than that in newsposts on HLTV.org, but that's because the newsposters on HLTV are Danish, Swedish, Spanish, Finnish, etc. They all speak English as a 2nd-3rd language.
What really matters is the content and as demonstrated above, it's bullshit.
Honestly anyone who wants to call themselves a 'journalist' should be ashamed of the contents of many of Richard Lewis' articles (not all).
Im sorry, but you and I have distant points of view on what content is bullshit and whats not.
The problem is you cant accept my opinion, I on the other hand, can accept yours.
You may not like what Richard wrote ebcause you like 1.6, that doesnt mean his content is bullshit, when he wrote it, those were his thoughts, it is a column, so its based on the opinion of the author, thats what he stated, HIS opinion.
Now, you can agree with hyis opinion or not, that doesnt make his article bullshit.
Its like if I say Obama´s decisions suck, and i give my opinion on them in a column, and you thinke verything he deos is great, does that make my article bulsshit ?.
The problem is you cant accept my opinion, I on the other hand, can accept yours.
You may not like what Richard wrote ebcause you like 1.6, that doesnt mean his content is bullshit, when he wrote it, those were his thoughts, it is a column, so its based on the opinion of the author, thats what he stated, HIS opinion.
Now, you can agree with hyis opinion or not, that doesnt make his article bullshit.
Its like if I say Obama´s decisions suck, and i give my opinion on them in a column, and you thinke verything he deos is great, does that make my article bulsshit ?.
Dude, cut the bullshit.
Of course I can accept your opinion. Otherwise I wouldn't have replied to you. And I don't disagree with Richard Lewis because I like 1.6. And believe it or not, I don't even hate Source. I'm not disagreeing with Lewis because he's expressing his opinion.
The appropriate metaphor for Richard Lewis' articles is not Obama, but Fox News. Everything that he writes is so heavily biased, has been spun so much and is completely full of bile and agenda. He has never written a sentence that sheds even a remotely positive light on 1.6 (except obviously when referring back to 2003 or whatever).
Some of what he says is true, but anything reasonable that he writes is completely overshadowed by his agenda to fling as much shit at 1.6 and its community as possible, often garnished with populist statements. His articles are like a Michael Moore movie.
Of course I can accept your opinion. Otherwise I wouldn't have replied to you. And I don't disagree with Richard Lewis because I like 1.6. And believe it or not, I don't even hate Source. I'm not disagreeing with Lewis because he's expressing his opinion.
The appropriate metaphor for Richard Lewis' articles is not Obama, but Fox News. Everything that he writes is so heavily biased, has been spun so much and is completely full of bile and agenda. He has never written a sentence that sheds even a remotely positive light on 1.6 (except obviously when referring back to 2003 or whatever).
Some of what he says is true, but anything reasonable that he writes is completely overshadowed by his agenda to fling as much shit at 1.6 and its community as possible, often garnished with populist statements. His articles are like a Michael Moore movie.
While you make a point here, my point still stands, it is a column and therefore it expresses nothing else than Richard´s opinion. Therefore, i cant judge his column for being good or bad, to me, its just his opinion.
Also, you cant say Cadred sucks only because 1 column from Richard Lewis, theres a lot of people working on Cadred producing great content i¿about LoL and SC2. Those journalists probably dont care about the war between 1.6 fans and css fans.
Post edited 2012-06-19 02:01:37
Also, you cant say Cadred sucks only because 1 column from Richard Lewis, theres a lot of people working on Cadred producing great content i¿about LoL and SC2. Those journalists probably dont care about the war between 1.6 fans and css fans.
Post edited 2012-06-19 02:01:37
The columns that I've read by Richard Lewis - while being entirely his own opinions as you say - are typically either having a stab at someone (1.6 community) or furthering some kind of agenda (CS:GO is tah bast). This is obviously due to the fact that none of his other stuff gets posted on his website.
If you're attempting to put forward some kind of proposition then you should be able to back it up. If your backup is bile and hyperbole then your proposition is unlikely to be accepted and thus your opinion is shit. Much like "Obama is a bad president because he's black" is a shit opinion.
Once you enter the field of journalism you will have to accept that people will criticise your work. There's a reason for why the term "bad journalism" exists and that's precisely because there's so much of it. It is no longer just "opinions."
And I don't think I've ever said that cadred is shit, but I can understand people saying that if the site has columnists like Lewis. As I said earlier, I haven't read many of his articles but of the ones that I have read, the fnatic one wasn't even the worst one. There's one about 1.6 and CS:GO that was so utterly poor that even the cadred users heavily disagreed with him.
tl;dr: Lewis' articles are NOT "well written."
If you're attempting to put forward some kind of proposition then you should be able to back it up. If your backup is bile and hyperbole then your proposition is unlikely to be accepted and thus your opinion is shit. Much like "Obama is a bad president because he's black" is a shit opinion.
Once you enter the field of journalism you will have to accept that people will criticise your work. There's a reason for why the term "bad journalism" exists and that's precisely because there's so much of it. It is no longer just "opinions."
And I don't think I've ever said that cadred is shit, but I can understand people saying that if the site has columnists like Lewis. As I said earlier, I haven't read many of his articles but of the ones that I have read, the fnatic one wasn't even the worst one. There's one about 1.6 and CS:GO that was so utterly poor that even the cadred users heavily disagreed with him.
tl;dr: Lewis' articles are NOT "well written."
Have to agree with you.
Jakkiller has a point but he, although he claims to be not, seems to be very ignorant. If you accepted his opinion you wouldn't be continuing this hassle.
btw: Frater, your English is magnificent. Where have you learnt such good writing skills?
Jakkiller has a point but he, although he claims to be not, seems to be very ignorant. If you accepted his opinion you wouldn't be continuing this hassle.
btw: Frater, your English is magnificent. Where have you learnt such good writing skills?
*Took off 1.6 fanboy hat* Oh I can see it now.Cadred thinks CSS is more popular and competitive than 1.6 when its actually the opposite . Ive never seen people who work for HLTV say stuff like CSS is shit and its dead.Things like that are said only by the community so stop talking bullshit and go back to cadred.
I have been an HLTV.org user for more than 2 years, this is not a matter of Cadred vs HLTV, I visit both websites as both provide content im interested in, end of the story, you are no one to tell me where to go or what to do.
Your 1.6 fanboy hat is still on, you cant accept the fact that they say 1.6 is dead ? ITS DEAD, just face it, more and more tournaments will drop it, and believe me it was meant to happen, just like some day League of Legends or Starcraft 2 may die in order to leave place for LoL 2 or SC3-
People on Cadred never said 1.6 sucks, actually, Richard Lewis has admitted that 1.6 is the best game, but that he states the truth when saying 1.6 is or will soon be dead doesnt mean he is a bad person or that his articles suck.
Your 1.6 fanboy hat is still on, you cant accept the fact that they say 1.6 is dead ? ITS DEAD, just face it, more and more tournaments will drop it, and believe me it was meant to happen, just like some day League of Legends or Starcraft 2 may die in order to leave place for LoL 2 or SC3-
People on Cadred never said 1.6 sucks, actually, Richard Lewis has admitted that 1.6 is the best game, but that he states the truth when saying 1.6 is or will soon be dead doesnt mean he is a bad person or that his articles suck.
Come back again when we don't have a single 1.6 tournament competitively :)
Again, as i said above, none of you will ever be on a position to tell me when i should come, i come here and post whenever i feel like doing so because thats my freedom.
Now, you are delusional if you think CS 1.6 wont end up dying, it has already lost its place at the top of eSports to games like LoL and SC2.
Now, you are delusional if you think CS 1.6 wont end up dying, it has already lost its place at the top of eSports to games like LoL and SC2.
I am not delusional and most of us knew this day will come sooner or later. It has been great 12 years :)
I admit 1.6 is slowly dying but yet its nowhere close to dead.Meanwhile cadred has been saying 1.6 is dead for 1 year or even more.I never said cadred articles suck.I just said that you never see HLTV staff shit talking cadred and CSS community while Richard Lewis loves doing it.
"Oh I can see it now.Cadred thinks CSS is more popular and competitive than 1.6 when its actually the opposite ."
go find me a quote to back this nonsense up..
go find me a quote to back this nonsense up..
Hey let me jump in here, I don't have a quote for that one, but I DO have a quote for "1.6 is a better game than CSS".
Here it is:
http://i55.tinypic.com/2hs0q6o.jpg
Even that retard admited it. Well, I can only agree with him.
1.6 > sAuce. haha!
Here it is:
http://i55.tinypic.com/2hs0q6o.jpg
Even that retard admited it. Well, I can only agree with him.
1.6 > sAuce. haha!
All about buisness, they make the game, they destroy the game. They sould be proud oh god this world..
^^^^
I agree with the cadred fanboys on this one -> we DO have some retarded users and this guy is one of the examples.
I agree with the cadred fanboys on this one -> we DO have some retarded users and this guy is one of the examples.
This isn't bad journalism, it's favoured journalism.
Can't expect a newspaper from Barcelona to write bad things about FC Barcelone, but if they can smudge the name of their arch-nemesis Real Madrid they will of course.
Same with HLTV.org and Cadred. Cadred won't say a bad word about CS:S, but selectively posts bad news about CS 1.6, all logical because Cadred is a CS:S favoured website. HLTV.org is a CS 1.6 favoured website, which chooses not to smudge their rivals, but just post news about their own game, it being good and bad.
Can't expect a newspaper from Barcelona to write bad things about FC Barcelone, but if they can smudge the name of their arch-nemesis Real Madrid they will of course.
Same with HLTV.org and Cadred. Cadred won't say a bad word about CS:S, but selectively posts bad news about CS 1.6, all logical because Cadred is a CS:S favoured website. HLTV.org is a CS 1.6 favoured website, which chooses not to smudge their rivals, but just post news about their own game, it being good and bad.
+1, but imo it's easier to have a 1.6 forum..
What cadred does, is bad journalism. HLTV.org staffs never go down as low as those tards from cadred. Sure HLTV.org staffs might have done something bad here and there, BUT NEVER like those cadred tards. The OP post is filled with stupid atitudes from cadred staffs, one of them even came to this forum to trashtalk 1.6. Show me when any HLTV.org staff went to cadred and did the same? HLTV.org decided to work for 1.6, and thats what they do, that is perfectly fine. Cadred decided to work MAINLY for CSS, and later they decided to cover 1.6, but thats not what they do, unless you call covering a game, to post only bad shit about it, and ignore the good stuff that happens. Thats bad journalism. Maybe for you, thats the standard or good journalism, but for me thats as bad as it can go. You might be blind to this, but cadred is an empty place, they have 20-30 posts in their articles in a 'good'day. It should be pretty obvious to you, that they are just trying to be very polemical to get more hits in there, its pretty sad.
Post edited 2012-06-19 20:04:55
Post edited 2012-06-19 20:04:55
Omg! I've just opened for the fifth time cadred website, started to reading comments and guess what? 70 comments, 50 of them with "omg I hate HLTV.org", "HLTV.org liars" and etc.
What the hell is going on between our community and cadred? But this is kind'a funny to read those facts and hell yeah, it is true. :D
What the hell is going on between our community and cadred? But this is kind'a funny to read those facts and hell yeah, it is true. :D
link me some more threads where cadred users bash on hltv.org, please.
Hell no, won't search it. Actually I don't give a thing about cadred, we have different games why so many flames? These facts are true, face it. But the best thing is that even admins of cadred flaming on HLTV.org... Disrespectful!
Post edited 2012-06-19 00:04:35
Post edited 2012-06-19 00:04:35
so you dont even have a point in your argument, nice going there.
Most of them just LoL @ your fanboyisme , nothing more :)
True.
Any HLTV.org user who believes Cadred are "bashing" 1.6 and so forth, are misinformed and incredibly clueless.
If you look on the outside of HLTV, you can see why the community is so hated by others (not just Cadred).
The amount of absolute morons, including the original topic poster on this site is unbelievable.
If you look on the outside of HLTV, you can see why the community is so hated by others (not just Cadred).
The amount of absolute morons, including the original topic poster on this site is unbelievable.
Oh really?
CS:S is much much much more dead than 1.6. But i havnt seen a single thread or article or a post about that on cadred. However, you see numerous articles popping up time to time saying CS 1.6 dead and admins commenting the same thing since 2009 that 1.6 is dead.
Why is that so? Come-on, give me a moronic excuse.
CS:S is much much much more dead than 1.6. But i havnt seen a single thread or article or a post about that on cadred. However, you see numerous articles popping up time to time saying CS 1.6 dead and admins commenting the same thing since 2009 that 1.6 is dead.
Why is that so? Come-on, give me a moronic excuse.
Obviously haven't read Cadred since CGS died when it's been nothing but negativity towards CSS so please don't play the victimised card.
Dude, i am saying cadred tries to protect CS:S and offend 1.6. Thats it. But who cares about your small herd of noobs anyway! LOL.
You obviously didn't read my reply.... Unbelieveable
stop replying...you are right dude, nobody here read cadred usually..
What does the state of CS:S and 1.6 and articles regarding the subject have to do with the HLTV.org community?
I'm a regular reader of both sites as both of them post newspieces and articles related to my interests and without bias I can safely say that the community of Cadred is miles ahead of HLTV in pretty much every way imaginable - I understand that Cadred's active userbase consists mostly of people from UK while HLTV is way more international which makes communication much more primitive.
Anyway I see you're not even reading Gumpster's posts but only spouting shit as if he was trying to prove that CS:S is actually bigger than 1.6 which couldn't be further off the truth, and I can bet that he knows it too.
I hope you understand that you are only proving his point.
I'm a regular reader of both sites as both of them post newspieces and articles related to my interests and without bias I can safely say that the community of Cadred is miles ahead of HLTV in pretty much every way imaginable - I understand that Cadred's active userbase consists mostly of people from UK while HLTV is way more international which makes communication much more primitive.
Anyway I see you're not even reading Gumpster's posts but only spouting shit as if he was trying to prove that CS:S is actually bigger than 1.6 which couldn't be further off the truth, and I can bet that he knows it too.
I hope you understand that you are only proving his point.
I usually visit a website for its content, and I care more about how good and fair the professionals from the website are, then the userbase (which can have its trolls, funnyguys, retards, etc). And I find that the work (coverage, etc) done by HLTV.org is MILES ahead of the work done by cadred.org. HLTV.org is just... better. And I also find that the staffs in HLTV.org act way more professional than those of cadred. In this very blog, we have several examples of the stupid atitude of the cadred staffs. One of them (Richeh) even came to this forums to trashtalk 1.6, saying it sux, etc... So, show me when did a HLTV.org staff went to cadred to trashtalk? Thats just one example for you.
So thats why in my opinion, HLTV.org is just a more competent site, and thats probably why HLTV.org is a much more successful site than cadred, and you can easily see that by looking at the activity in cadred (very low) and the activity in HLTV.org (way higher).
The only part I can agree with you, is that there are lots of retards in the HLTV.org userbase, but thats natural, since HLTV.org is so big (more than 10 times registered users than cadred), so the number of retards is larger too.
So thats why in my opinion, HLTV.org is just a more competent site, and thats probably why HLTV.org is a much more successful site than cadred, and you can easily see that by looking at the activity in cadred (very low) and the activity in HLTV.org (way higher).
The only part I can agree with you, is that there are lots of retards in the HLTV.org userbase, but thats natural, since HLTV.org is so big (more than 10 times registered users than cadred), so the number of retards is larger too.
The number of retards is also _relatively_ much larger making your point void.
Also you're again missing my point and putting words in my mouth - whenever did I say anything about the staff of either website? The only thing I was talking about was the general public of both communities and in my opinion cadred wins the award on this one - if you disagree that's fair and square.
My main point was to tell Piyush how lost he is with his posts when he's not even reading Gumpster's posts.
Also you're again missing my point and putting words in my mouth - whenever did I say anything about the staff of either website? The only thing I was talking about was the general public of both communities and in my opinion cadred wins the award on this one - if you disagree that's fair and square.
My main point was to tell Piyush how lost he is with his posts when he's not even reading Gumpster's posts.
No I didn't put words in your mouth, I never said YOU talked about the staff, that WAS ME giving my opinion on what matters the most for ME. And the integrity and professionalism of the staffs matter MORE to me, than the trolls you might find here and there, and that is why for ME, hltv.org is way better than cadred. You can have your own opinion, and I have no problem with it, this is just my opinion.
Please don't tell me to show an example of something that I never said to have happened then. Of course I also find the level of staff important when it comes to websites and I have no complaints from either side, I agree with you there - but it's very confusing when you start talking about it when I didn't talk about the entire subject in my post.
Didn't nix0n steal a laptop? Didn't HLTV once ask Heaven Media to be bought out by them because HLTV needed help?
Shall I throw in a few extra or are you gonna shut up now before you humiliate yourself?
Shall I throw in a few extra or are you gonna shut up now before you humiliate yourself?
A plausible rumor seems a lot more believable
than the truth itself.
than the truth itself.
" Didn't nix0n steal a laptop? "
No he didn't. He had finantial issues at the time, he delayed too much to pay, but he DID pay. That has ABSOLUTE nothing to do with stealing. Next?
Looks like all of you cadtards seen to put rumors before truth. Thats as unrelated and as patethic as me saying ' didn't gonzo cheated in css? ' I don't care what those people do in their personal lifes, its their professional lifes we are talking about here, and all the evidences are telling us that HLTV.org staffs are way more professional than those tards in cadred. Cya!
Post edited 2012-06-20 01:35:48
No he didn't. He had finantial issues at the time, he delayed too much to pay, but he DID pay. That has ABSOLUTE nothing to do with stealing. Next?
Looks like all of you cadtards seen to put rumors before truth. Thats as unrelated and as patethic as me saying ' didn't gonzo cheated in css? ' I don't care what those people do in their personal lifes, its their professional lifes we are talking about here, and all the evidences are telling us that HLTV.org staffs are way more professional than those tards in cadred. Cya!
Post edited 2012-06-20 01:35:48
lol.... I believe my point has been proven.
There are many other cases... however with regards to HLTV, I will let you continue throwing stones at glass houses.
Post edited 2012-06-20 01:50:58
There are many other cases... however with regards to HLTV, I will let you continue throwing stones at glass houses.
Post edited 2012-06-20 01:50:58
haha looks like you had no argument and started the usual nonsense talk. Like I said, we have EVIDENCE of the stupid behaviour of cadred staffs. Unless you can show me evidence that HLTV.org staffs are doing that shit (going to cadred to trashtalk, etc) you lose and has not point.
I'm waiting! Man its fun to troll this fat old man haha!
I'm waiting! Man its fun to troll this fat old man haha!
Stop feeding these disillusioned fucks. They don't have any proof just posting crap all along.
Pus generally trash talks on Cadred, I just ain't sad enough to screenshot it everytime to win a pointless argument, you can keep being deluded to thinking you win this silly fight.
Hi Dumpster, Im glad you are back! Just got home from gym. So you say pus usualy trashtalks on cadred? Since you lost so many arguments in this thread, AND started to spread false information (look at your post 288), I can only assume you snapped and started to post nonsense, again. Poor guy, no proof right? haha, better luck the next time!
Wow what an idiot you are. I'm done owning you, I know you can't take being owned so pretend to look cool.
News flash, you are absolutely thick and blind.
News flash, you are absolutely thick and blind.
The amount of visitors of HLTV.org is also much bigger than of cadred so it's easier to find morons here than there.
Stop feeding these disillusioned fucks. They don't have any proof just posting crap all along.
i dont get it why they are so mean to 1.6, just take a look, event coverage: dreamhack - They have, LoL, Dota, sc2 but no one single mention to 1.6.
they are all bunch of pricks who are jelous becouse css never became big. They keep saying that 1.6 is dead but the point is, css never was alive?
We ALWAYS have more spectators and fx at CPH when css said that it was one of the biggest and best tournaments and so on, they never had more than 5k spectators on their main stream. Fucking sad.
We ALWAYS have more spectators and fx at CPH when css said that it was one of the biggest and best tournaments and so on, they never had more than 5k spectators on their main stream. Fucking sad.
I think this should stop, Cadred and HLTV have different interests, but that should not be a reason for us to fight, especially in times like these...Seriously, we already have so many things to worry about, our favourite game is dying and what we're doing is argue about some posts and wrong news...
I was going to respond with something but I remember how it goes, instead I'll just leave this here: http://t.qkme.me/3532l1.jpg
good to see other bronies! :D
Meanwhile watch this video until the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHy7DGLTt8g
We call you when it's over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHy7DGLTt8g
We call you when it's over.
There's no CS:S community, not anymore.
Last time css had 1.5k viewers in eswc (That was their biggest event). 1.6 had 75k in iem.
Realise how much 1.6 community is bigger than CSS community.
Last time css had 1.5k viewers in eswc (That was their biggest event). 1.6 had 75k in iem.
Realise how much 1.6 community is bigger than CSS community.
Our biggest and best event was CPH this year so keep posting untrue and bias facts!
Who cares? So what was the number of viewers in your biggest css shit this or last year? 5K?
LMAO what a failed. I feel sorry for you, wasting your life on a dead end failed broken bad game. You must be mad as hell hahahah!
LMAO what a failed. I feel sorry for you, wasting your life on a dead end failed broken bad game. You must be mad as hell hahahah!
Absolute moron.
yeah, moron for writing some facts? Am I lying? Isn't 5K the 'average' good number for CSS this or lsat year? Where did I lie?
So, basicaly, once people talk about facts, and you don't like what the facts tell you, you call them morons?
You know, you will be a great religious guys. Those guys who put everything before reason and facts. Thats you bro! hahaha!
So, basicaly, once people talk about facts, and you don't like what the facts tell you, you call them morons?
You know, you will be a great religious guys. Those guys who put everything before reason and facts. Thats you bro! hahaha!
I dunno have you provided evidence of every CS:S event from last year to back up your claim as you just said 5k average over a year, I know 1.6 players think Source doesn't have much of a scene but we do have more than one event each year so that's a bold claim with no evidence. So is it really a fact?
Care to share?
Care to share?
I would do that, but why would you think I know about every source event? Remember, I am not a sAucer :)
So, lets do this. I said 5K is the average good number for CS:S in the last / recent year. Since YOU are a sAucer, and know more about its events, can you please show me that I am wrong, with evidence? Can you show me EVIDENCE, of source reaching more than that?
If you can't, then you lose.
Have a good day Dumpster!
So, lets do this. I said 5K is the average good number for CS:S in the last / recent year. Since YOU are a sAucer, and know more about its events, can you please show me that I am wrong, with evidence? Can you show me EVIDENCE, of source reaching more than that?
If you can't, then you lose.
Have a good day Dumpster!
Why would I have evidence just to please you, I personally don't give a shit about what YOU think. Anyway I will stop this discussion as I'm off to work and have better things to do :)
We both know you don't have the evidence, simply because it does not exist. The fact is, the truth is, source has very very low viwer numbers, and 5K was probably even too much for it if you ask me.
Owned much sAucer? :]
Owned much sAucer? :]
You are right, I doubt they usualy reach 5K, probably 2K - 3K, as people exposed in CPH games 2012
http://i44.tinypic.com/2zsw47c.jpg
http://www.hltv.org/blog/5198-css-failed-numbers
http://i44.tinypic.com/2zsw47c.jpg
http://www.hltv.org/blog/5198-css-failed-numbers
It's funny how CS 1.6 people toss CS:S and the other way around. It's like watching a black whale fighting with a termite.
cadred.org isn't a web journalism, they are 3-4 idiots without a brain and posting only shit attidute, they are in darkness than hltv.org.
You can see also the homepage is really bad and coverage are really shit
lol cadred is shit
You can see also the homepage is really bad and coverage are really shit
lol cadred is shit
Ive only been to cadred twice,
It was around the time of Gamegune 2011 (maybe 2010?)
So the groups got leaked to HLTV.org and we posted them. After that Cadred copied our groups.
Then a few days later the groups changed and we updated our article. Cadred kept theirs (with the old info).
I posted that they should consider changing the groups to reflect the current situation, and also since it was obvious they got the original groups off us, they should also consider sourcing their info.
Some admin got really upset, and changed it. We then had an argument in the forums about them stealing content. In the end his argument was because its only really "virtual text" and not real, he doesnt need to abide by copyright laws. He then deleted his side of the arguments in the forums and left my side. So it looked like i was arguing with myself.
I approached him in the thread about it, and then he decided to edit my posts without showing it had been edited. So i looked like a total dick talking rubbish, replying to no-one.
And never been back since.
It was around the time of Gamegune 2011 (maybe 2010?)
So the groups got leaked to HLTV.org and we posted them. After that Cadred copied our groups.
Then a few days later the groups changed and we updated our article. Cadred kept theirs (with the old info).
I posted that they should consider changing the groups to reflect the current situation, and also since it was obvious they got the original groups off us, they should also consider sourcing their info.
Some admin got really upset, and changed it. We then had an argument in the forums about them stealing content. In the end his argument was because its only really "virtual text" and not real, he doesnt need to abide by copyright laws. He then deleted his side of the arguments in the forums and left my side. So it looked like i was arguing with myself.
I approached him in the thread about it, and then he decided to edit my posts without showing it had been edited. So i looked like a total dick talking rubbish, replying to no-one.
And never been back since.
:D if only you print screened, but that's ok.
i went to cadred for the first time today, and got scared because all of the comments were against hltv... and 1.6... and logic
i went to cadred for the first time today, and got scared because all of the comments were against hltv... and 1.6... and logic
+1
sigh, I got banned on cadred for making 3 posts, and he goes on to say, below my comment, that cadred has no agenda in the news that they dish out. Well, alot of the media today certainly has agendas to fulfill, and those agendas are to try to give false opinions/generalizations on topics thus swaying the opinion of every reader (which is misleading)...
what more is there to say... I'm just glad hltv is manned by bright and smart admins.
what more is there to say... I'm just glad hltv is manned by bright and smart admins.
I haven't banned you by the way. I'll re-post what I said below and await the torrent of abuse from ill-informed teenagers anyway:
We've never picked 1.6 apart or said that we don't like the game. If we didn't like the game we wouldn't have sent teams of writers to cover events over the years. If you've paid attention to the website in recent months (doubtful given the points you posted above) you'd notice that we've been gradually winding down our coverage of CS 1.6, both of the good and bad variety, this is for a number of reasons, the main one being:
The game is in decline and no matter how much you choose to ignore it much of the news that does come from the scene is negative. With the release of CS:GO just around the corner and our writers becoming bored or disillusioned with the 1.6 scene we thought it would be smarter to focus on the future, which isn't 1.6. This will no doubt also be the case for CS:S when the time comes, the difference is most of the CS:S community are expecting it instead of living in some dream land where the game they play will last well into the next Millenium, so the backlash won't be quite as severe.
Cadred have no agenda when it comes to the games we cover, we produce content focusing on a number of titles and each of them attract attention from their respective communities, including 1.6 when we covered it. If you are looking for a website which has a reason to selectively publish news or information.. I don't know, a site based on a single title, perhaps.. You should probably look a little bit closer to home.
Post edited 2012-06-19 01:34:41
We've never picked 1.6 apart or said that we don't like the game. If we didn't like the game we wouldn't have sent teams of writers to cover events over the years. If you've paid attention to the website in recent months (doubtful given the points you posted above) you'd notice that we've been gradually winding down our coverage of CS 1.6, both of the good and bad variety, this is for a number of reasons, the main one being:
The game is in decline and no matter how much you choose to ignore it much of the news that does come from the scene is negative. With the release of CS:GO just around the corner and our writers becoming bored or disillusioned with the 1.6 scene we thought it would be smarter to focus on the future, which isn't 1.6. This will no doubt also be the case for CS:S when the time comes, the difference is most of the CS:S community are expecting it instead of living in some dream land where the game they play will last well into the next Millenium, so the backlash won't be quite as severe.
Cadred have no agenda when it comes to the games we cover, we produce content focusing on a number of titles and each of them attract attention from their respective communities, including 1.6 when we covered it. If you are looking for a website which has a reason to selectively publish news or information.. I don't know, a site based on a single title, perhaps.. You should probably look a little bit closer to home.
Post edited 2012-06-19 01:34:41
Just look at all the shit you and other 'journalists' from cadred have done. Jesus, you even trashtalked 1.6 in this very forums. I have never seen the professionals from HLTV.org doing even 1/3 of that shit. I am sorry to tell you, but I see most people here already made their minds on cadred being very very stupid on their way of journalism, and I am pretty sure if CS:GO turns out to be the future, HLTV.org will be its home, and nothing will change, you will remain the small potato you are, and thats pretty much your fault, for delivering such retarded kinda journalism. Keep it up, you can't even see you are ruining (already had) all your reputation, and cadred's too.
Idiot.
Why?
Does it really need explaining.
"I don't see professionals from HLTV.org do that"
I see it everyday from people like Pus, lurppis who continue to throw stones at glass houses.
"I don't see professionals from HLTV.org do that"
I see it everyday from people like Pus, lurppis who continue to throw stones at glass houses.
HLTV.org staffs might have done something bad in the middle of this 'war', but the point is, it was NEVER as low, as retarded as cadred.
I don't care about your opinion, and I am not asking you to care about mine.
Lets look at the facts. Here we have a blog full of examples of the type of shitty attitude from cadred staffs. Thats a fact. That idiot Richeh even came to this forum to trashtalk 1.6, saying it sux and its not year 2000 anymore. So please, show me evidence of HLTV.org staff going to cadred and doing the same? Show me, or you lose.
Have a good day, my dear fat friend.
I don't care about your opinion, and I am not asking you to care about mine.
Lets look at the facts. Here we have a blog full of examples of the type of shitty attitude from cadred staffs. Thats a fact. That idiot Richeh even came to this forum to trashtalk 1.6, saying it sux and its not year 2000 anymore. So please, show me evidence of HLTV.org staff going to cadred and doing the same? Show me, or you lose.
Have a good day, my dear fat friend.
You are a moron enough said!
The only moron here is you who can't argue and start calling people "idiot" "moron".
No because I cant be arsed repeating everything about 100 times over, just to be told the most pathetic and stupid thing again.
Theres no "look at the facts", there is no "evidence", there is nothing wrong in what anyone from Cadred or HLTV do, and the fact that some of you get so pissy over it, is incredibly laughable, hence why I called mikep a moron.
The fact that Rickeh didn't "trashtalk" 1.6 and never has is something that is way off when it comes to these supposed "facts".
And not to mention the fact you think I have no right to call people idiots or moron's when they are clearly wrong, when they themselves have decided to call others by harsh names.
Again, another case of "don't throw stones if you live in a glass house".
Shall I keep owning you, or are you gonna give up?
Theres no "look at the facts", there is no "evidence", there is nothing wrong in what anyone from Cadred or HLTV do, and the fact that some of you get so pissy over it, is incredibly laughable, hence why I called mikep a moron.
The fact that Rickeh didn't "trashtalk" 1.6 and never has is something that is way off when it comes to these supposed "facts".
And not to mention the fact you think I have no right to call people idiots or moron's when they are clearly wrong, when they themselves have decided to call others by harsh names.
Again, another case of "don't throw stones if you live in a glass house".
Shall I keep owning you, or are you gonna give up?
http://i39.tinypic.com/r85fef.jpg
So, we have no evidence? Whats that? Looks like your friend rickeh came here and trashtalked 1.6.
And you can keep saying thats a "normal" atitude, and that you see no problem in doing that... Thats your opinion, and clearly not the opinion of most people here. Most people think that is utter shit behaviour, and HLTV.org staff don't go down to that level.
In your face fat boy! Loving it!
So, we have no evidence? Whats that? Looks like your friend rickeh came here and trashtalked 1.6.
And you can keep saying thats a "normal" atitude, and that you see no problem in doing that... Thats your opinion, and clearly not the opinion of most people here. Most people think that is utter shit behaviour, and HLTV.org staff don't go down to that level.
In your face fat boy! Loving it!
That's not really trash talking 1.6 is it, it's called having a laugh.
You see you guys fail to understand sarcasm or banter or even jokes.
I dont call you morons because I have no argument, I call you morons because I cannot understand how you are THAT thick.
You see you guys fail to understand sarcasm or banter or even jokes.
I dont call you morons because I have no argument, I call you morons because I cannot understand how you are THAT thick.
"That's not really trash talking 1.6 is it, it's called having a laugh."
Not really. All of us know about the tension between these games. Not only that, we all know the tension between the websites. Not only that, we know the tension between the staffs. There was absolute no scenario to even imagine that was not trashtalking.
Keep trying to find excuses to justify the failed behavior, instead of accepting it as it is.
You are losing bro :)
Not really. All of us know about the tension between these games. Not only that, we all know the tension between the websites. Not only that, we know the tension between the staffs. There was absolute no scenario to even imagine that was not trashtalking.
Keep trying to find excuses to justify the failed behavior, instead of accepting it as it is.
You are losing bro :)
actually hltv.org never pretended to focus on more titles but only on a single one that is counter-strike 1.6 ! Probably hosting a site only for Counter-Strike:Source can't bring as many visits as an 1.6 one does so then you decided to focus on more titles hoping for some more clicks from the various communities but guess what: each community has it's own famous website and you guys, sadly, are the head site for one single dead community: counter-strike:source. Good luck!
wow KO comment
Well said
Well said
LOL.
No at least Cadred, wanted to sustain and support eSports as a growth as a whole, and build a platform for all gamers to enjoy a wide variety of games, not just one.
The fact that 1.6 players are so narrow minded and hateful of any other game, is just moronic.
No at least Cadred, wanted to sustain and support eSports as a growth as a whole, and build a platform for all gamers to enjoy a wide variety of games, not just one.
The fact that 1.6 players are so narrow minded and hateful of any other game, is just moronic.
you just wanted to make some money out of various platforms while talking shit about the 1.6 community but guess what no one gives a damn about you guys and you'll never achieve with various games the visits hltv.org achieved with one single game ;)
You are right, and cadred is failing miserably hahhahaha, I just see that they average 3 - 4 posts per news when they post about LOL, SC2, etc... hahahaha what a fail.
Yeah it's more visit's that HLTV has had since it began... strange that.
Look at this guy, not that he was owned in this thread, he is spreading false information all over the place... Started with n1x0n stealing a laptop (false), now he says that shitred.org is more visited (lol haha that shit is fucking empty, very little activity)... Looks like this guy incorporated the spirit of shitred, and that is posting rumors, speculations, and doing so ONLY when its good for their interestes. What a retard haha! Maybe he will be the next 'journalist' there hahaha!
What are you talking about? You know that is wrong. Most, if not all, 1.6 players play other games too, including me. As an example, I love StarCraft 2 and games like Mass Effect.
This has nothing to do with being narrow minded. I find CS:GO to be a terrible game, and that's about it. That has nothing to do with being hateful, I just think the game sucks. Who are you to tell me to like it and unite with you source players? I'd rather play a game I actually like.
If you fail to realise, CS:GO is going to end up like Call of duty and Battlefield - huge playerbase, no competive scene.
This has nothing to do with being narrow minded. I find CS:GO to be a terrible game, and that's about it. That has nothing to do with being hateful, I just think the game sucks. Who are you to tell me to like it and unite with you source players? I'd rather play a game I actually like.
If you fail to realise, CS:GO is going to end up like Call of duty and Battlefield - huge playerbase, no competive scene.
And that's why I should have listened to my gut and stayed out of it..
talking to yourself brah?
<3
I never meant to cause such a commotion of replies, but I still retain my opinion that the followers of your site are just misinformed on what 1.6 really is, it isn't a fairytale. Anyway, why should a new game take away from an already established community? csgo shouldn't be the main news to come up - atleast for esports, because this game in valve's eye is meant to draw a casual, console, and low-form of competitive players so that these players one day will jump into cs2. sure csgo will be played alot, just not in esports, because valve isn't patching the game at all lately - just a sound patch in a month and the game is set for release.
You what? Are you actually being serious?
Look at this cadtarded fat guy here. I am 17, and I know this guy is 25 or more (he looks so old), and I just realized that this idiot spends hours e-fighting on internet forums, and I can bet my balls most of the time he is e-fighting 14-18 year old people. Jusus, it would be as if I (17) was fighting and playing with the 10 year old kids in my building. There is a guy here in my building that does this, but he has down syndrome. I don't know, maybe this Gumpster is also a down syndrome guy, and if thats the case, I don't think he is an idiot, he is just... ill. But if thats not the case, then I can easily say this retard is one of the most patethic persons I know. And btw, its good to see you need to come here in our website to e-fight, that tells us what is the popular main website when it comes to CS, and it will always be like that, my dear friend.
And you call me a "down syndrome" guy when that made very little sense.
Can I just add, that it isn't very funny to take the piss out of people who suffer from "down syndrome". It's actually vulgar.
Anyway, to your point, theres more to life than me just owning you, but I suppose you are just jealous that I actually can make sense, and you cannot.
Can I just add, that it isn't very funny to take the piss out of people who suffer from "down syndrome". It's actually vulgar.
Anyway, to your point, theres more to life than me just owning you, but I suppose you are just jealous that I actually can make sense, and you cannot.
no, 1.6 isnt a fairytale at 1.6, i have said it before on this site, people at cadred regularly play and watch 1.6, GO is the future until another cs game comes out, if we were to wait for cs2, there would be no FPS scene at major tournaments, only the die-hards at community biased events
Of course you are waiting for CS:GO to be realest because its like CSS copy, its no where near as good as 1.6 is but its really close to awful CSS.
Post edited 2012-06-19 22:04:02
Post edited 2012-06-19 22:04:02
ahhhh chest ache kunt
Post edited 2012-06-19 01:15:27
Post edited 2012-06-19 01:15:27
Someone with the money is killing 1.6, and we must gather for future of FPS gaming...Don't hate our ugly cs:s brothers :)
they are not making any news about 1.6 since few months, they are planning to focus all their shitplans promoting "facts" about the dead of 1.6, hoping that someday CS:GO will be huge, played with an awesome competitive scene so they (in their dreams) will be a """good""" gaming website, because now suck really hard they cover SC2, lol but no one gives a shit about. they didnt cover dhs12, no news about anything or any event, they just came out with 2 news this days: WCG DROP 1.6, IEM DROP 1.6
you do the math.
Post edited 2012-06-19 02:06:23
you do the math.
Post edited 2012-06-19 02:06:23
Just look at Richard Lewis' twitter page. Notice how many times "1.6" is mentioned. You would think he was running a 1.6 coverage site (you would also think he was a child as well.)
Thanks for the laughs Cadred. Keep up that "Premier Esports Coverage" and thanks for giving HLTV.org so many hits and for registering user accounts here (who the fuck has one on your shithole website?)
Thanks for the laughs Cadred. Keep up that "Premier Esports Coverage" and thanks for giving HLTV.org so many hits and for registering user accounts here (who the fuck has one on your shithole website?)
he quotes moronic posts from this website, which are hilarious with their broken english
This is a way way larger and "more international" website than cadred. People in here probably speak english as their 2nd or 3rd language most of the time. How can you find that an issue, is beyond me. Most people in here in their 15, 16 already speak and write in 2 or 3 different languages.
they're calling us retarded, would love them calling me a retard face to face <3 oh guys, it's just internet!
HLTV.org, thank you for being a great e-sport site, and NEVER go down to the level of those frustrated guys in cadred.
Keep up the great work, HLTV.org, you are the best in this business.
Keep up the great work, HLTV.org, you are the best in this business.
+111111111111111111
I think WCG will not drop CS1.6. Neotv and cnfrag still didnt wrote about that :)
Btw cadred.org is full with frustrated guys
Post edited 2012-06-19 03:38:26
Btw cadred.org is full with frustrated guys
Post edited 2012-06-19 03:38:26
never heard of that site b4.
1.6 hatters :)
@Author of this thread : thou you have got a valid point about cadred.org and their activities, I would like to tell you that posting something about those guyz is like making them (in)famous. As lot of HLTV.org users have never visited that site and infact they did not even know it existed. But because of such threads people are visiting that site. Its better to stop with cadred threads. And let them do whatever they want. Cause, frankly speaking, not a single hltv.org user gives a fuck about what they publish and say about our community. We all enjoy visiting HLTV.org cause it covers our beloved game "cs 1.6", its events\news better than any other site. For me and may be for most of the guys here, whenever we will think of CS 1.6, we will think of HLTV.org.
<3 CS 1.6 and hltv.org.. forever..
<3 CS 1.6 and hltv.org.. forever..
exactly dont post threads related to cadred
i dont want that shit in my internet history xD
i dont want that shit in my internet history xD
hahaha
Just by posting links to their website, we're giving them free publicity and hits that they're probably cashing on in the background.
Try not to get all worked up at the slightest of all provocations. GeT_RiGhT denied the rumor and it should've ended at that because that statement debunked their claims and tainted their reputation as bad journalists.
Post edited 2012-06-19 12:48:13
Try not to get all worked up at the slightest of all provocations. GeT_RiGhT denied the rumor and it should've ended at that because that statement debunked their claims and tainted their reputation as bad journalists.
Post edited 2012-06-19 12:48:13
Dribblers in all these threads struggling to type anything other than 1.6 4 life. HLTV has a large fanbase nobody cares so does Justin Beiber. Cadred reported a rumour and state they seen it on another website but this means Richard Lewis made it up? You're all virgins and suck at 1.6 anyway get over it.
Post edited 2012-06-19 13:20:46
Post edited 2012-06-19 13:20:46
Actually CSS = Justin Beiber and 1.6 = Megadeth.
So fuck u.
Coming to the other part, Cadred says the rumour as a "REPORT" in the 1st article. It doesnt say the rumour as a "RUMOUR" at all! It also doesnt refer to the other website which actually started this "rumour" trying to show as if the REPORT is theirs. LOL.
Only when it was proved as RUMOUR by HLTV.org, you find the words rumour and reference to the other website in the 2nd article. fkin nabs.
Post edited 2012-06-19 17:27:53
So fuck u.
Coming to the other part, Cadred says the rumour as a "REPORT" in the 1st article. It doesnt say the rumour as a "RUMOUR" at all! It also doesnt refer to the other website which actually started this "rumour" trying to show as if the REPORT is theirs. LOL.
Only when it was proved as RUMOUR by HLTV.org, you find the words rumour and reference to the other website in the 2nd article. fkin nabs.
Post edited 2012-06-19 17:27:53
" Of course, we must stress at this point that these are only rumours and while we always reluctantly post such speculation, it seems there could be some truth in the reports that surfaced on cmconair.de "
I'm not sure if you're lying to try look clever or in denial about cadred.
Although I think cadred has better writers I think gonzo has a chip on his shoulder and is a cunt to everybody but I dislike you idiots more so. Stop getting defensive over a game you smelly nerd.
Post edited 2012-06-19 19:42:02
I'm not sure if you're lying to try look clever or in denial about cadred.
Although I think cadred has better writers I think gonzo has a chip on his shoulder and is a cunt to everybody but I dislike you idiots more so. Stop getting defensive over a game you smelly nerd.
Post edited 2012-06-19 19:42:02
"Cadred reported a rumour and state they seen it on another website but this means Richard Lewis made it up?"
Look at what you posted. I don't think the OP said that idiot made it up? Surely the OP didn't say it. And you are replying to the main blog, if you want to reply to some other post, use the reply buttom. So looks like you can't read, what a failed person. If anything, what was said here, was that it was a false rumor (and it was) and that its not the first time cadred posted those rumors and they turned out to be false (the other was about css being picked for IEM), and the point was that the rumors posted by him are always rumors that are negative to 1.6. And there is more in the OP post, about other shit going on in that site. I hope you see by now, how much of a retarded you are. Thanks.
Post edited 2012-06-19 19:50:07
Look at what you posted. I don't think the OP said that idiot made it up? Surely the OP didn't say it. And you are replying to the main blog, if you want to reply to some other post, use the reply buttom. So looks like you can't read, what a failed person. If anything, what was said here, was that it was a false rumor (and it was) and that its not the first time cadred posted those rumors and they turned out to be false (the other was about css being picked for IEM), and the point was that the rumors posted by him are always rumors that are negative to 1.6. And there is more in the OP post, about other shit going on in that site. I hope you see by now, how much of a retarded you are. Thanks.
Post edited 2012-06-19 19:50:07
Read what Piyush said about cadred not saying it is a rumour or referring to another website and then read my first paragraph. Thanks retard.
Post edited 2012-06-19 20:00:17
Post edited 2012-06-19 20:00:17
Piyush post is number 186. Your post is number 172. How could you have been replying to him, if he posted after you? You fail.
And here it a tip for you. You replied to the OP, you mentioned no names in your post, so anyone reading will understand you are replying to the original OP`s post.
If you want to reply to someone specific, use the reply buttom, or there is no way people can know that.
You just failed my friend, sorry :)
And here it a tip for you. You replied to the OP, you mentioned no names in your post, so anyone reading will understand you are replying to the original OP`s post.
If you want to reply to someone specific, use the reply buttom, or there is no way people can know that.
You just failed my friend, sorry :)
Yeah, they say that. But only in the SECOND article. Not in the FIRST.
HLTV STRONG.
CADRED WRONG.
popcorn.jpg
CADRED WRONG.
popcorn.jpg
stronk* and wronk*
funny you should talk about journalist standards. as long as they point to it not being confirmed from an official source, they dont fall off line with journalistic integrity. i like hltv, dont get me wrong, but its been ages since stumbled upon a "proper" article/opinion piece here, (exception being the team/player awards and rankings at the end of each year. hltv has come down to a site posting photos, videos and results, so please dont compare those two sites on journalistic standards, because as much as it hjrts to admit, cadred wins that comparison
let the flaming begin
let the flaming begin
thats exactly what i want from HLTV.org, not some English literature.
You seen lost. No one here said what cadred does is not journalism, it is journalism (where people said it wasn't?). What people said, and I agree, is that its bad journalism. Thats all.
Post edited 2012-06-19 19:28:06
Post edited 2012-06-19 19:28:06
Neither did he. And if you would actually read deline's post properly you'd notice that his point is that the articles on Cadred are not below the standard level of journalism and in other words disagrees with you - how could he be lost when he's only giving his own opinion on the matter?
Posting opinions on colums doesn't make them bad (which so far has been your only argument), on the contrary it causes people to give their own views on subjects and conversation which is only a good thing.
Posting own opinions and wrong information as facts on official news pieces on the other hand is not a good thing and that's what one would call "bad journalism" as you put, but personally I have yet to see a piece of news on Cadred which does so - the latest one regarding GeT_RiGhT's response states the fact that HLTV wrongly regarded Cadred as the source of the rumor does pick on HLTV, but stating a fact is not "bad journalism."
Posting opinions on colums doesn't make them bad (which so far has been your only argument), on the contrary it causes people to give their own views on subjects and conversation which is only a good thing.
Posting own opinions and wrong information as facts on official news pieces on the other hand is not a good thing and that's what one would call "bad journalism" as you put, but personally I have yet to see a piece of news on Cadred which does so - the latest one regarding GeT_RiGhT's response states the fact that HLTV wrongly regarded Cadred as the source of the rumor does pick on HLTV, but stating a fact is not "bad journalism."
Lets see.
Pretty much all cadred does about 1.6 is talk negatives about it. I can easily say, 90% or more is about the negatives. If all that was going on in 1.6 was negative, you could say they are just saying whatever there is to say about 1.6, but its not the case. There are good things happening, like the successful DreamHack Summer event this weekend, and they simply chose to NOT talk about that. Funny, they only pick the negatives, what does that tell you? When they post rumors, its always about something that will favor other CS versions, and again, negative to 1.6. Something like SK leaving, or CSS being picked by IEM (but false, but whatever). AND, their staff comes to HLTV.org's forum and trashtalk 1.6.
Right, you want to call that a standard way of journalism, you go ahead and do it, for me, its as bad esport journalism as it can get.
Post edited 2012-06-19 20:26:21
Pretty much all cadred does about 1.6 is talk negatives about it. I can easily say, 90% or more is about the negatives. If all that was going on in 1.6 was negative, you could say they are just saying whatever there is to say about 1.6, but its not the case. There are good things happening, like the successful DreamHack Summer event this weekend, and they simply chose to NOT talk about that. Funny, they only pick the negatives, what does that tell you? When they post rumors, its always about something that will favor other CS versions, and again, negative to 1.6. Something like SK leaving, or CSS being picked by IEM (but false, but whatever). AND, their staff comes to HLTV.org's forum and trashtalk 1.6.
Right, you want to call that a standard way of journalism, you go ahead and do it, for me, its as bad esport journalism as it can get.
Post edited 2012-06-19 20:26:21
+1 thats pretty much what cadred is doing. There is no way to call that good journalism.
Cadred also posts more negative news and articles about CS:S as well.
Perhaps they didn't send 1.6 writers to DH and that's the reason it wasn't covered.
Cadred did indeed post rumours but the subject was very interesting and provoked a lot of conversation - big enough to bring out to the general public. You must note though that it wasn't their own rumour but actually had been circulating for some time on another eSports website.
Perhaps they didn't send 1.6 writers to DH and that's the reason it wasn't covered.
Cadred did indeed post rumours but the subject was very interesting and provoked a lot of conversation - big enough to bring out to the general public. You must note though that it wasn't their own rumour but actually had been circulating for some time on another eSports website.
"Cadred also posts more negative news and articles about CS:S as well. "
They do, but they ALSO publish the good news about CSS too. Thats just fair, and thats how it should be.
The point is, about 1.6, they are publishing pretty much ONLY the bad news about it. If they were to do a fair job on the 1.6 game too, they should have posted about the successful DreamHAck Summer last weekend (they didn't), they should have talked about DreamHack featuring 1.6 in Septemper (they didn't) etc...
You might find that a good way of doing their job, other people might find that pretty child and stupid atitude. Not to mention on of their staff coming here and trashtalking 1.6... Thats it, there is no more.
They do, but they ALSO publish the good news about CSS too. Thats just fair, and thats how it should be.
The point is, about 1.6, they are publishing pretty much ONLY the bad news about it. If they were to do a fair job on the 1.6 game too, they should have posted about the successful DreamHAck Summer last weekend (they didn't), they should have talked about DreamHack featuring 1.6 in Septemper (they didn't) etc...
You might find that a good way of doing their job, other people might find that pretty child and stupid atitude. Not to mention on of their staff coming here and trashtalking 1.6... Thats it, there is no more.
"Perhaps they didn't send 1.6 writers to DH and that's the reason it wasn't covered."
Don't know if you missed that part of my post, but there ya go again. It's difficult to write news about something you aren't covering.
Don't know if you missed that part of my post, but there ya go again. It's difficult to write news about something you aren't covering.
How is that the point? They did cover the other DreamHack games, SC2, LOL... So? And I am not even talking about covering the game. They don't need to cover an event to publish good news about 1.6. Here is an example for you. Dreamhack will feature 1.6 in September. Thats a good news. Have they publish that newspost in cadred? No, but if someone drops 1.6 tomorrow, you can bet it will be published there.
+1
only an idiot would think that work line of cadred is 'ok'. They are shit, and the only way to describe what they do, is really bad journalism.
only an idiot would think that work line of cadred is 'ok'. They are shit, and the only way to describe what they do, is really bad journalism.
There wasn't a "DH will feature LoL and SC2" -news either and if you think that 1.6 is the reason it wasn't published then you're delusional. Also it's a huge job to cover even one game properly in an event that big let alone 2 - 3 games for such a small team is simply a work overload. I would have liked 1.6 coverage and news myself but I got everything I needed from HLTV so it wasn't that big of a loss to me.
Obviously things like IEM/WCG dropping support for one of the biggest eSports titles ever are huge for an FPS community, and yet again produce a lot of comments and hits on the website. It would be just stupid not to write about it.
There hasn't been a lot of positive news regarding 1.6 lately so obviously there hasn't been many good news written either.
Obviously things like IEM/WCG dropping support for one of the biggest eSports titles ever are huge for an FPS community, and yet again produce a lot of comments and hits on the website. It would be just stupid not to write about it.
There hasn't been a lot of positive news regarding 1.6 lately so obviously there hasn't been many good news written either.
+1, I love hltv.org but is true..
Live and let live. It's not like they'd do anything differently even if you post these threads.
what is going to happen then after CS:GO is released?? man,, future could be so bright.. only if they made a good game out of CS:GO!!
People at that site are making jokes about bad English of hltv users.
Seriously how low can they go.
English is not every country's main language.
Seriously how low can they go.
English is not every country's main language.
Did any hltv.org admin has posted anything bad about CSS ? to rickeh
Post edited 2012-06-19 19:16:02
Post edited 2012-06-19 19:16:02
In the middle of the 'war' I can bet some HLTV.org staff said something here and there, but NEVER like the retardeness of our butthurted friends in cadred. Just look at this thread, what do you conclude when 95% of what cadred posts about 1.6 is negative and biased? And they make sure they pretty much post the 'bad' stuff only, even when great things happens in the 1.6 scene, like the recent DreamHack Summer event, etc.
Cadred is the reference for bad journalism in e-sports these days.
Cadred is the reference for bad journalism in e-sports these days.
Although I don't really have the time to scour through threads and articles I'm pretty certain there have been negative comments towards CS:S or its scene from a number of hltv.org writers.
Not that it even matters in the slightest as much like me it's their job to write what they think.
Post edited 2012-06-19 20:36:37
Not that it even matters in the slightest as much like me it's their job to write what they think.
Post edited 2012-06-19 20:36:37
Did they come to cadred.org forums to say CSS sucks, etc? Show me evidence?
Looks like you were low enough to do that shit, right?
Looks like you were low enough to do that shit, right?
oh look, its that skinny UGLY scot guy. When you care more about internet forums than with your own looks, thatis when you really need to stop and put more time into taking care of yourself and your body. That should really be your priority, not joking.
Journalism is about facts and opinions based on them....It's not about writing what you'd like to happen!
They're usually about how we feel about the game and that your community is small. It's no secret we feel CSS is a worse game than 1.6, and I don't know why the scale of the CSS community keeps being brought up. It doesn't really matter when it's a game someone cares about.
Unlike you guys, the most outspoken Cadred staff, we, the HLTV.org staff, don't brand your community as a group of degenerates, like you've so politely done towards the 1.6 community.
Unlike you guys, the most outspoken Cadred staff, we, the HLTV.org staff, don't brand your community as a group of degenerates, like you've so politely done towards the 1.6 community.
Well, until my, shall we say "dealings" with this community (you know, the usual threads and torrents of personal yet hilarious abuse) my thoughts were very different; I saw them as nothing more than a very passionate group of people.
By this community I mean the folk posting all around us now, bar a select few. You just have to look at this thread to see why some people would think the way I do. The lack of intelligence and complete ignorance is terrifying.
I've tried many times to be polite and constructive in my discussions on these forums, but my word is it difficult to remain civil.
Post edited 2012-06-21 01:18:39
By this community I mean the folk posting all around us now, bar a select few. You just have to look at this thread to see why some people would think the way I do. The lack of intelligence and complete ignorance is terrifying.
I've tried many times to be polite and constructive in my discussions on these forums, but my word is it difficult to remain civil.
Post edited 2012-06-21 01:18:39
Sometimes too passionate. Yes, I know what you mean.
I've noticed. Unfortunately, you cannot expect to be met very civilized here when you generalize large parts of the 1.6 community and call them lowlifes on the Cadred website.
I've noticed. Unfortunately, you cannot expect to be met very civilized here when you generalize large parts of the 1.6 community and call them lowlifes on the Cadred website.
Why do you even care to come here when you know we are low-lifer and dumbfucks?
Post edited 2012-06-21 01:43:29
Post edited 2012-06-21 01:43:29
May i suggest turning on the ION Cannons and DDoS Cadred?
Say yes please.
Say yes please.
Why should you DDoS a site that doesn't get more than 50 visits per day? :D
Looks like the serious discussions on anything related to CS or its future is always happening on HLTV.org, even people from other websites come here to discuss it. And even staffs from other websites. One thing I can be sure of, is that no matter what is the future of CS (1.6, cs:go, csp, etc) HLTV.org will be its main portal, and will keep on providing the best coverage for it.
No one even comes close to HLTV.org when it comes to coverage. Keep up the great work HLTV.org!
No one even comes close to HLTV.org when it comes to coverage. Keep up the great work HLTV.org!
Cadred.org is a shitty site and should not be called professional. Ever.
However, they have one good point
HLTV.org community is filled with utter trash. Seriously when going through comments you have to look real fucking hard to find a decent post.
However, they have one good point
HLTV.org community is filled with utter trash. Seriously when going through comments you have to look real fucking hard to find a decent post.
We can be retarded dumb shithead whatever you may want to call us but the fact remains each one of our hearts beats with CS 1.6 :)
1.6 > CS:S every single day, every single week, every single month, every single year, and it will be that for ever!
I wouldn't even go as far as calling that journalism!!
Post edited 2012-06-20 01:57:39
Post edited 2012-06-20 01:57:39
Everybody knows Rickeh is a joke.
Why are you trying to insult someone to make hltv.org looks better in people's eyes. I guess it is kinda childish thing and also the bad side of marketing. You know that cadred is source based portal, so I think there is nothing wrong about their behaviour. But if you want more 'breaking news' for local public, then let's try to fuck up 'rakaka.se', now they're going better, but they were awful, just try to remember all their rumors, I guess it's really bad journalism.
And tell me one more thing, what is a death of 1.6? You'll probably say that game is alive, but I won't agree, especially in the moment when 2 MAIN organisers droped 1.6 from their events. Lack of competition. Lost of motivation.
So your blog looks like a agony of 1.6 with trying to kill someone else. Finally, feel the fucking diference between newspost and blogpost and next time don't try to issue blog (personal opinion) as news :) I didn't find any sense in ur post and it's totally pointless to insult ur ex-enemy (I mean CS:S) when both CS are going to die for good and all as competitive games pretty soon. If you want to fuck up someone's favourite game then next time you should choose SC2, LoL, DotA and others, cy@ fish
And tell me one more thing, what is a death of 1.6? You'll probably say that game is alive, but I won't agree, especially in the moment when 2 MAIN organisers droped 1.6 from their events. Lack of competition. Lost of motivation.
So your blog looks like a agony of 1.6 with trying to kill someone else. Finally, feel the fucking diference between newspost and blogpost and next time don't try to issue blog (personal opinion) as news :) I didn't find any sense in ur post and it's totally pointless to insult ur ex-enemy (I mean CS:S) when both CS are going to die for good and all as competitive games pretty soon. If you want to fuck up someone's favourite game then next time you should choose SC2, LoL, DotA and others, cy@ fish
maybe that behaviour from cadred staffs are a 'normal' thingy to you, but most of us have a different view (probably due to education), and when they need to go as low as trashtalking the 1.6 game IN the 1.6 portal, they pretty much lose all credibility (not they had that, ever).
You said this blog makes no sense, so I guess you either agree with the kinda shit cadred staffs did, or you didn't read it, because its full of evidence of that crap, here is one:
http://i39.tinypic.com/r85fef.jpg
Show me where HLTV.org's staff went there on cadred to trashtalk? Can't do it? Maybe that means nothing for you, but for people with more education, it does mean something.
You can't really blame the 1.6 community, because unlike cadred, what they say is pretty much based on facts, not rumors as cadred likes to do. When they say CSS has 4K viewers max, that are telling the truth, when they say 1.6 was the successful version of CS, they are telling the truth, and when they say HLTV.org is the most successful counter strike portal these days, they are also telling the truth.
It just look like the truth hurts people like you so much, that you end up going so mad, you lose reason.
Cya fish!
You said this blog makes no sense, so I guess you either agree with the kinda shit cadred staffs did, or you didn't read it, because its full of evidence of that crap, here is one:
http://i39.tinypic.com/r85fef.jpg
Show me where HLTV.org's staff went there on cadred to trashtalk? Can't do it? Maybe that means nothing for you, but for people with more education, it does mean something.
You can't really blame the 1.6 community, because unlike cadred, what they say is pretty much based on facts, not rumors as cadred likes to do. When they say CSS has 4K viewers max, that are telling the truth, when they say 1.6 was the successful version of CS, they are telling the truth, and when they say HLTV.org is the most successful counter strike portal these days, they are also telling the truth.
It just look like the truth hurts people like you so much, that you end up going so mad, you lose reason.
Cya fish!
+1 Cadred run by kids. That's the difference.
"You know that cadred is source based portal, so I think there is nothing wrong about their behaviour."
What a load of failed logic. So, there is a Formula 1 portal, and there is a Nascar portal. And just because they are different 'games' they are 'allowed' to trashtalk each other? I'm sorry, but what makes people do the kinda shit they do, is the people themselves. A good person, a good professional won't do that shit, no matter if he works for Formula 1 or Nascar. A bad professional will probably act stupid, and don't get me wrong, there are many bad professioals in every area these days. So don't try to find excuses for bad behaviour, when its all about the person itself. We are responsible for out actions, no excuses.
So, when the cadred staff decided to go all the way up here, in HLTV.org to trashtalk 1.6, he is just showing everybody what kinda professional he is.
Have a good day.
What a load of failed logic. So, there is a Formula 1 portal, and there is a Nascar portal. And just because they are different 'games' they are 'allowed' to trashtalk each other? I'm sorry, but what makes people do the kinda shit they do, is the people themselves. A good person, a good professional won't do that shit, no matter if he works for Formula 1 or Nascar. A bad professional will probably act stupid, and don't get me wrong, there are many bad professioals in every area these days. So don't try to find excuses for bad behaviour, when its all about the person itself. We are responsible for out actions, no excuses.
So, when the cadred staff decided to go all the way up here, in HLTV.org to trashtalk 1.6, he is just showing everybody what kinda professional he is.
Have a good day.
I always thought like that. Glad to see I am not alone. There is still hope in this world.
Great post.
Great post.
That is amazing.
Footballers "trash talk" people all the time. Does that mean they are not "professional". No. Politicians "trash talk" each other in Parliament each and every day, does that mean they are not "professional". No.
Your logic is flawed.
Footballers "trash talk" people all the time. Does that mean they are not "professional". No. Politicians "trash talk" each other in Parliament each and every day, does that mean they are not "professional". No.
Your logic is flawed.
nope. He try to compare two differents sports...
nascar and formula 1.
You compare football with? Let's see... Fail by you.
nascar and formula 1.
You compare football with? Let's see... Fail by you.
Seriously? You really need to explain the obvious? I think he cant read, so.
Sorry. i was trying to help. D:
He doesn't get what professional means, he also seems to throw it around like an absolute tit.
There is a clear difference between a factual piece of writing, and an opinion based piece of writing.
There also is a difference from what people say in front of a camera, to what they say behind a camera.
Yes I know it's difficult for you to understand, but hey ho, that is what schools are there for.
There is a clear difference between a factual piece of writing, and an opinion based piece of writing.
There also is a difference from what people say in front of a camera, to what they say behind a camera.
Yes I know it's difficult for you to understand, but hey ho, that is what schools are there for.
Cadred is dead. No-one really cares anymore.
cadred is a heap of shit i mean im scottish but this rickeh kid is a disgrace to scotland guy should be shot point blank infront of his family
The most retarded reply I've ever seen and shows how pathetic the HLTV community really is.
Hi, jelly
haha :D
Use some punctuation you fucking clown I can't even understand what you're saying. People like you are the reason I moved out of Scotland, I bet you support Rangers.
as gtr said the rumour was false. cadred fagred
So, Carmac said he never had a complain about graphics from the sponsors... I lost count of how many times idiots like Richard Lewis and Richeh said "we need better graphics, sponsors have no interest in and 10 year old graphic".
Well, I guess this is evidence of how little Ricard Lewis and Richeh know about e-sports / Counter-Strike.
Well said Carmac! You are the man!
Well, I guess this is evidence of how little Ricard Lewis and Richeh know about e-sports / Counter-Strike.
Well said Carmac! You are the man!
C'mon cadred,we're still waiting for the news about "No CS:GO at IEM". :) Two hours have passed and still nothing?:) You were so fast when it comes to "IEM dropped 1.6".
Post edited 2012-06-21 23:07:42
Post edited 2012-06-21 23:07:42
nice promo cadred ...
funny thread
cadred? who are they?
To be honest i dont care about those jealous retards.
Our community is biger and we milion times proved that we are better.
Our community is biger and we milion times proved that we are better.
cadred is actually better then HLTV.org
There the admins won't abuse their powerr and ban people for making them mad or telling everyone true facts about their lifes.
There the admins won't abuse their powerr and ban people for making them mad or telling everyone true facts about their lifes.
who cares about cadred.. cadred sucks
My theory about this frustrated cadtards is this: They wasted years and years of their lifes (playing / covering) on a failed, broken, bad game (CSS) that didn't go anywhere and died with CGS a long time ago. They put money into the game with new equips, they put time of their lifes (hours and hours per day) on a game that ended up failing, and they ended up as nobodies. They look at the pro players in 1.6 (lurppis is an example here), they look at all the glory and fame in 1.6, and they envy it so much, it drives them mad. They can't accept that they wasted their lifes on a failed game that couldn't achieve 1/5 of what 1.6 achieved. And now they look at the mirror, they see an old guy, with broken studies, and ruined life, all wasted on a failed game no one cares about, and they rage because they ended up being nobodies, no one know their names, no one cares about them. They look at neo, markeloff and all the glory and success in 1.6, and they feel bad about it. They rage so much about it, they want to kill 1.6 at any cost, and they will celebrate when 1.6 dies, but they forget that nothing that can happen with 1.6 will change the fact that they are unknowns, and wasted important years of their lifes in a failed game that no one cared about, and they MAD about it. Nothing will bring those years of their lifes back, and they know it, and thats why they are frustrated as hell.
Bad journalism on hltv.org:
"FACT #5
In 2012, some cadred journalist published rumors (false ones, again) about SK-gaming disbanding, dropping 1.6 and moving to CS:GO.
Evidence: www.cadred.org/News/Article/178731/
Question: Why would they do that?
*** GeT_RiGhT himself told HLTV.org that it was false ***
Evidence: www.hltv.org/news/8715-get-right-slams-csgo-team-rumor"
http://www.hltv.org/news/8917-nip-returns-for-csgo
Patrik " f0rest" Lindberg
Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund
Adam "friberg" Friberg
Robin "Fifflaren" Johansson
Richard "Xizt" Landström
?
"FACT #5
In 2012, some cadred journalist published rumors (false ones, again) about SK-gaming disbanding, dropping 1.6 and moving to CS:GO.
Evidence: www.cadred.org/News/Article/178731/
Question: Why would they do that?
*** GeT_RiGhT himself told HLTV.org that it was false ***
Evidence: www.hltv.org/news/8715-get-right-slams-csgo-team-rumor"
http://www.hltv.org/news/8917-nip-returns-for-csgo
Patrik " f0rest" Lindberg
Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund
Adam "friberg" Friberg
Robin "Fifflaren" Johansson
Richard "Xizt" Landström
?
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.
