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CS:GO is doomed
2012-09-20 19:54
People started to play 1.6 (1.5 and even earlier) because it was an AWESOME game, period. Counter-Strike exploded back in the day, because lan houses were exploding, and consoles couldn't provide the same internet multiplayer experience at the time. The time was just PERFECT for CS to explode, and thats what happened. The 1.6 community was made out of nowhere, we didn't ask the quake players to join, we didn't need them, we didn't ask the UT players to join us, we didn't need their help. It was natural, we didn't ask or need the previous CS version community to join, because there was no previous CS. Because of the HUGE CS community and followers, events started to get bigger and bigger, and CS reached the top stop in competitive FPS games. Our community (1.6) wasn't born BECAUSE of money or events, it was the other way arround, our community CREATED the competitive scene and our community was responsible for more than 10 years of 1.6's success, by providing huge number of viewers and interest. The 1.6 community is the most loyal computer game community I can think of. It was all about PASSION. Thats the word, 1.6 was played because of PASSION, and PASSION can keep a game for a decade on the top of the competitive scene.
CS:GO has a COMPLETELY different start. Just look at the recent HLTV.org's article of NIP's Fifflaren (source player lol) asking for the help of the 1.6 community. The source community has failed miserably to support their game when they had a chance. Last year, source was a part of ESWC, and the number of viewers in the source final was insanely pathetic. Something like 6K or 7K total, while 1.6 was getting 50K viewers, and by that time, the number of 1.6 and CS:S players in the steamstats was about equal. That already tells you that the source community doesn't have what it takes, thats why we see them asking for the 1.6 community help. People say CS:GO is attracting people from all the FPS games (CS, CSS, COD, Battlefield, etc), and thats a fucking lie. Pretty much ALL the teams we see in CS:GO are from 1.6 or source, period, and the number of players of CS:GO in the steamstats is quite pathetic too, so there is no evidence of CS:GO attracting people from all the fps games, thats just bullshit. Lets be honest, the few people (pros) playing CS:GO are doing it fot the money, because events dropped 1.6 (and source), period. Do you see how that differs from the 1.6 start? We played 1.6 for PASSION, who da hell would be insane enough to say people are playing CS:GO for passion? Its obviously for money, and thats not enough to succeed. To succeed, you need an AWESOME game, a HUGE community, PASSION, people waking up 6AM to see a match, or keeping awaked till 4AM to see a match, etc. CS:GO has none of that, CS:GO is all about the money, its not even a good game. As if that wasn't enough, the timming is shit. These days, lan houses are not as popular, due to better internet connections and other things, AND consoles these days can deliver internet multiplayer experience too. AND this is the era of the next generation of consoles, meaning PS4 is going to be released and its going to be a HUGE thing.
We, the 1.6 community, had an AWESOME run, and we can easily say that we are the most successful FPS community on the planet, because no other community could keep their game on the top for so long. Only PASSION can do that, not money. We had a blast, and if its time to move on, we will move on for better things in life, not for a fucking inferior product like CS:GO.
I am 100% sure that 1.6 will always be the better and most successful CS version ever, and we were luck to enjoy it and be a part of its successful history. Our community made the most out of 1.6, and no other community (source, etc) could even come close to our success. Thanks to all the loyal 1.6 players. We made history!
CS:GO has a COMPLETELY different start. Just look at the recent HLTV.org's article of NIP's Fifflaren (source player lol) asking for the help of the 1.6 community. The source community has failed miserably to support their game when they had a chance. Last year, source was a part of ESWC, and the number of viewers in the source final was insanely pathetic. Something like 6K or 7K total, while 1.6 was getting 50K viewers, and by that time, the number of 1.6 and CS:S players in the steamstats was about equal. That already tells you that the source community doesn't have what it takes, thats why we see them asking for the 1.6 community help. People say CS:GO is attracting people from all the FPS games (CS, CSS, COD, Battlefield, etc), and thats a fucking lie. Pretty much ALL the teams we see in CS:GO are from 1.6 or source, period, and the number of players of CS:GO in the steamstats is quite pathetic too, so there is no evidence of CS:GO attracting people from all the fps games, thats just bullshit. Lets be honest, the few people (pros) playing CS:GO are doing it fot the money, because events dropped 1.6 (and source), period. Do you see how that differs from the 1.6 start? We played 1.6 for PASSION, who da hell would be insane enough to say people are playing CS:GO for passion? Its obviously for money, and thats not enough to succeed. To succeed, you need an AWESOME game, a HUGE community, PASSION, people waking up 6AM to see a match, or keeping awaked till 4AM to see a match, etc. CS:GO has none of that, CS:GO is all about the money, its not even a good game. As if that wasn't enough, the timming is shit. These days, lan houses are not as popular, due to better internet connections and other things, AND consoles these days can deliver internet multiplayer experience too. AND this is the era of the next generation of consoles, meaning PS4 is going to be released and its going to be a HUGE thing.
We, the 1.6 community, had an AWESOME run, and we can easily say that we are the most successful FPS community on the planet, because no other community could keep their game on the top for so long. Only PASSION can do that, not money. We had a blast, and if its time to move on, we will move on for better things in life, not for a fucking inferior product like CS:GO.
I am 100% sure that 1.6 will always be the better and most successful CS version ever, and we were luck to enjoy it and be a part of its successful history. Our community made the most out of 1.6, and no other community (source, etc) could even come close to our success. Thanks to all the loyal 1.6 players. We made history!
It is funny that in a blog that actually mostly celebrates 1.6, you still have to take a swing at CS:GO, why not simply celebrate 1.6's greatness without lashing out? This is exactly the kind of behaviour that takes away all focus from what you actually write, and just make you seem like another one in the crowd.. I will leave your blog, because I too think we did something great with 1.6, the rest however, I do not agree with..
is there any reason not to leave his blog on the site?
Yes, there is, according to the new forum rule if you say CS:GO is bad and that it's not going to get big you are banned, you have to blindly support it or keep quiet. But if you attack 1.6 nothing wil happen with you, cuz the game is old and it's time for it do die.
sarcasm off
sarcasm off
Our secret has been revealed!
Hilarious !
hehe xD
But seriously, for what reason this blog could be deleted?
But seriously, for what reason this blog could be deleted?
Well it's not because of CS:GO that's for sure, everyone has the right to their opinion. It's the fact it's repetitive. As in the same thing has been done time and time again to the point where it requires variety.
The same goes for CS:GO hate posts, except it's a different case. People can hate on CS:GO on a 1.6 forum all they like, as much as CS:GO can hate on 1.6 all they like on their forum. Though both games have their own forums, which means if you don't like CS:GO, you don't go on their forum and bash them, same goes vice versa for all the other forums.
Follow the filter system is all anyone ever asked for, which unfortunately no one ever listens to.
The same goes for CS:GO hate posts, except it's a different case. People can hate on CS:GO on a 1.6 forum all they like, as much as CS:GO can hate on 1.6 all they like on their forum. Though both games have their own forums, which means if you don't like CS:GO, you don't go on their forum and bash them, same goes vice versa for all the other forums.
Follow the filter system is all anyone ever asked for, which unfortunately no one ever listens to.
yeah, I completely agree it getting too repetitive
I completely understand that it's annoying for the people who come here mainly because of CS:GO to read all those offensive comments towards the game, but the same way it's annoying for people who come here because of 1.6 to read comments from the same 4 or 5(won't quote names) users saying how the game is dead, that is has no tournaments and how we SHOULD(yes, sometimes I see this verb) support GO for the sake of the FPS e-sport scene.
I personally don't like the game, won't support it, but I agree that the only reason to reach the "peace" is through respect, something that is lacking in this forum for a long time already
I completely understand that it's annoying for the people who come here mainly because of CS:GO to read all those offensive comments towards the game, but the same way it's annoying for people who come here because of 1.6 to read comments from the same 4 or 5(won't quote names) users saying how the game is dead, that is has no tournaments and how we SHOULD(yes, sometimes I see this verb) support GO for the sake of the FPS e-sport scene.
I personally don't like the game, won't support it, but I agree that the only reason to reach the "peace" is through respect, something that is lacking in this forum for a long time already
tbh it doesn't matter (for competitive scene/esport) if you, or me or any NONAME won't support CS:GO. Most good teams from CSS and 1.6 already switched to GO, so just deal with it. You can play 1.6 whenever you want and forever till your computer explodes and your life drains away from your body.
rofl
CSGO SUCKS, ppl who r supporting it are RETARDED
lets see if i get banned like last time i said something like this but in way way better way..
lets see if i get banned like last time i said something like this but in way way better way..
I'm not your school project science experiment. I don't even ban people for CS:GO comments but I tend to delete them when they're too harsh. Please don't reply to me unless you have something more mature and relevant to the topic at hand.
Yeah , our secret has been revealed ! I got banned yesterday because I said that CS:GO sucks ...
inb4 9/11 was an inside job
thats because every argument someone makes in favor of the point of view makes them sound like a fucking retard. you and the goons like you make it so apparent that youre frightened of any threat to 1.6 that you will say anything negative about CSGO just to say something because youre stupid as shit.
amen
amen
Hahahahahahahahaha
Yes, I'm stupid as shit but you are the who can't see how sarcastic I was being, and it doesn't even some a lot of effort since at the end of my post I wrote "sarcasm off" meaning I was being sarcastic earlier.
But stay calm man, the same way it sounds very stupid the way me and "the goons like me" try to defend our beloved game, it sounds exactly the same to me about how people defend strongly a game that cannot even(in the actual moment) satisfy half of the number of players of it's old bro.
I just think that you guys are putting too much hope in this game.
But in the end your comments just shows how ridiculous is the actual situation of this forum, where nobody has a minimum respect for the others, calling everybody names simply because of different opinions.
Yes, I'm stupid as shit but you are the who can't see how sarcastic I was being, and it doesn't even some a lot of effort since at the end of my post I wrote "sarcasm off" meaning I was being sarcastic earlier.
But stay calm man, the same way it sounds very stupid the way me and "the goons like me" try to defend our beloved game, it sounds exactly the same to me about how people defend strongly a game that cannot even(in the actual moment) satisfy half of the number of players of it's old bro.
I just think that you guys are putting too much hope in this game.
But in the end your comments just shows how ridiculous is the actual situation of this forum, where nobody has a minimum respect for the others, calling everybody names simply because of different opinions.
yet , he is right
Post edited 2012-09-20 20:57:00
Post edited 2012-09-20 20:57:00
You should really add a reply button on blogs because its impossible to reply to the author when doesn't even comment in his own blog
great idea
You don't think CS:GO is a good game, you are just worried about your site going under and thats why you advertise CS:GO so much and make it out like it's great and gonna be better. You probably hate it. It's ok, that's business.
Everybody on this fuckin planet that likes CSGO must be paid vy Valve.
True story.
True story.
fkn aye haha. I can't even play it for more then 5 minutes.. it makes me feel sick!
HLTV.org admin beware!
1.6 NEVER DIES unless we die <3
i actually read this wall of text and i have to say i agree.
also: competitive cs is NOT dying because of bad graphics OR lack of players
also: competitive cs is NOT dying because of bad graphics OR lack of players
It actually is.
First thing to keep in mind is that sponsors aren't picking up the game because it doesn't need all the fancy computer hardware. The game could be run properly on a 8 years old computer. So people do not buy better hardware to play counter-strike, because why should they, right? Lack of players is an even bigger threat to counter-strike. More players = more spectators. And the lack of spectators is why the game was blown out of many tournaments.
P.S. I totally agree with Nomad.
First thing to keep in mind is that sponsors aren't picking up the game because it doesn't need all the fancy computer hardware. The game could be run properly on a 8 years old computer. So people do not buy better hardware to play counter-strike, because why should they, right? Lack of players is an even bigger threat to counter-strike. More players = more spectators. And the lack of spectators is why the game was blown out of many tournaments.
P.S. I totally agree with Nomad.
i dont think so, after considering the steam stats... but whatever, we'll see what happens in teh future
"More players = more spectators."
If the lack of spectators was the reason for 1.6's death, so why is CS:GO being picked up if it has actually half of 1.6's numbers on steam?
Answer: Because it's new and has "Counter Strike" in its name
If the lack of spectators was the reason for 1.6's death, so why is CS:GO being picked up if it has actually half of 1.6's numbers on steam?
Answer: Because it's new and has "Counter Strike" in its name
because 1.6 has neither sponsors nor spectators
at least csgo has sponsors
at least csgo has sponsors
So let's see in DH Valencia if it has spectators
Even when 1.6 had 70k spectators it wasn't enough. DO you really think that if 1.6 had as many viewers as SC2, LoL, Dota and other crap have 1.6 would be dropped out of the tournaments?
Also, CSGO is a new game. How many spectators did 1.6 have few months after it came out? Not a lot. But it still got picked up.
CSGO is getting into tournaments because it could be the next big thing. And it could have hundred thousands of spectators in the future.
Also, CSGO is a new game. How many spectators did 1.6 have few months after it came out? Not a lot. But it still got picked up.
CSGO is getting into tournaments because it could be the next big thing. And it could have hundred thousands of spectators in the future.
in 2000 witch game had a huge viewers pool?
What was huge back then is not the same what is huge now
Mate, Saint1 said:
"because 1.6 has neither sponsors nor spectators
at least csgo has sponsors"
I just answered that we'll see if CS:GO will have a big number of specs or not, I did not assume anything.
I know that 70k is not enough for a game to be on the international e-sport scene and I am not complaining about it having been dropped out of the tournaments.
That's the problem imo: organizations and tournaments are putting too much money on something that we're not sure if it will happen or not. 1.6 was a "update" for 1.5, not a new game, and 1.5 already was successful, so it was a natural thing
"because 1.6 has neither sponsors nor spectators
at least csgo has sponsors"
I just answered that we'll see if CS:GO will have a big number of specs or not, I did not assume anything.
I know that 70k is not enough for a game to be on the international e-sport scene and I am not complaining about it having been dropped out of the tournaments.
That's the problem imo: organizations and tournaments are putting too much money on something that we're not sure if it will happen or not. 1.6 was a "update" for 1.5, not a new game, and 1.5 already was successful, so it was a natural thing
They are putting in the money with a hope of it getting big. People like that are not stupid. They remove a game for a reason and add one also for a reason. And right GO is being added to tournaments because it MIGHT get really big and it is still attracting fresh blood.
Anyway, only time will tell. So let's enjoy Dreamhack for now. Cheers
Anyway, only time will tell. So let's enjoy Dreamhack for now. Cheers
wow you really belive that its all about spectate numbers? because progamers its more of in cs:go than cs 1.6 thats for sure.
lets say 1.6 had 1 000 000 people watching every event would that make kids that is about 10 years old intrested in 1.6 you think?
they can sell new mices, keyboards and headsets yey but you never ever need to upgrade ur computer is that good?
this is all about the companys that stands behind esport, it is not about the games. if you dont understand that, its just sad.
lets say 1.6 had 1 000 000 people watching every event would that make kids that is about 10 years old intrested in 1.6 you think?
they can sell new mices, keyboards and headsets yey but you never ever need to upgrade ur computer is that good?
this is all about the companys that stands behind esport, it is not about the games. if you dont understand that, its just sad.
"CS 1.6's old graphics are often cited as a reason for the game's decline in the eyes of tournament organizers. Do the graphics actually play any part in your game selection process and do you get pressured by sponsors to pick games with better graphics or is it all about viewership and the size of the community?
I have NEVER heard a single word from any of our sponsors about graphics. In fact, for our event in Shanghai two seasons ago it was Intel that asked us to run a local Chinese DotA tournament. We all know DotA is a game made on a 2002 engine."
"Based on your involvement with Valve so far and the release date of CS:GO, can we expect the game to be a part of the main games for the upcoming season?
A game can be a main title in the Intel Extreme Masters if it's a healthy esport: it has an active player base, spectators and fans. "
- Carmac.
I have NEVER heard a single word from any of our sponsors about graphics. In fact, for our event in Shanghai two seasons ago it was Intel that asked us to run a local Chinese DotA tournament. We all know DotA is a game made on a 2002 engine."
"Based on your involvement with Valve so far and the release date of CS:GO, can we expect the game to be a part of the main games for the upcoming season?
A game can be a main title in the Intel Extreme Masters if it's a healthy esport: it has an active player base, spectators and fans. "
- Carmac.
i dont understand why people cant like both 1.6 AND csgo, its not really a big fucking deal.....
an awful lot of people think that csgo is a bad game, that's why they dont like it... especially after years of playing arguably the best online fps game, 1.6 ofc.
ive played cs since it came out, i enjoy the game modes and the team gameplay, something csgo has in common with original cs. the new guns and new features are exciting to me as a longtime cser, so i will watch both 1.6 and csgo, but i will no longer play 1.6 because.....i moved on when it got kinda boring years ago and the competitive scene became a 3-team euro circlejerk....sorry. 1.6 compeittion has been stale for years, unless you like watching the same 3 teams carried by the same 3 players compete at every tournament that is.
cs is successful because people like to play it. the pro scene and tournaments are just a consequence.
i like playing 1.6, i dont like playing csgo.
if it's not clear what i mean, read the first paragraph of this blog :)
i like playing 1.6, i dont like playing csgo.
if it's not clear what i mean, read the first paragraph of this blog :)
cs WAS succesful because people like to play it....it has definately seen much better days. the most prominent 1.6 organizations, teams and leagues, are in it for their own $$$$$$$$, fuck all else. cs lost its true spirit years ago
i dont see how csgo is different in this respect. i figured i'll just play the game i enjoy more
Forced to like a game just because it has partly the same name? I don't think so.
CS:GO below top 10 in steam stats currently.
Oh look another one of these threads
1.6 deadened kids get over it.
csgo gets stronger everyday rofl more and more and more teams and organisations and LANs picking it up and you say its doomed, only hltv logic.
1.6 deadened kids get over it.
csgo gets stronger everyday rofl more and more and more teams and organisations and LANs picking it up and you say its doomed, only hltv logic.
let me guess, u really suck at that game kiddo
retards don't even care about what game they sucks at
Ye.
cs:go gets very strong ... Oh wait . .saucer logic
And less and less players are playing CS:GO everyday. So soon there will be 50 pro teams and 0 casual players. Genius.
CS:GO becoming stronger and stronger? Are you delusional?
http://store.steampowered.com/stats
Only a Sourcer's logic there.
http://store.steampowered.com/stats
Only a Sourcer's logic there.
How its "only a sourcers logic" ? They educate you to think like that when you play source or?
Is that they have a wrong mindset/logic in their heads, which is to bash 1.6 and wanting it to end as soon as possible by posting cheap craps on a 1.6 forum.
So your mindset works like playing source makes you less intelligent with false logics. And the correct mindset is to bash cs:go instead of 1.6 by posting cheap craps on cs:go forum?
They're just some jealous creatures living in a small dark cave. Therefore, their intelligences are only used to take on revenge on whatever that have made them jealous of, which in this case are the uptown neighbours, 1.6 players.
ye...now they have the chance to get some attention, in sauce they don't had. .they must be so happy
can u forget the stats already pls?
noone on the earth giving a shit about this.
1.6 got DH Valencia but u screwed because u havent got 40 players to attend but every one coming with that 1.6 got 50k player. AND? its just only 50k useless pub lamer nothing else.
noone on the earth giving a shit about this.
1.6 got DH Valencia but u screwed because u havent got 40 players to attend but every one coming with that 1.6 got 50k player. AND? its just only 50k useless pub lamer nothing else.
50.000 pubers + 500.000 non-steamers
vs
100 no-lifer professionals.
Go figure.
vs
100 no-lifer professionals.
Go figure.
i feel sad for u.
"1.6 got DH Valencia but u screwed because u havent got 40 players to attend"
I really doubt there weren't enough teams to play in the tournament since chrisJ himself stated here in HLTV that they applied for the tournament but the organization refused to accept them. As it happened with Karonte I guess it could've happened with some other teams also.
I really doubt there weren't enough teams to play in the tournament since chrisJ himself stated here in HLTV that they applied for the tournament but the organization refused to accept them. As it happened with Karonte I guess it could've happened with some other teams also.
"csgo gets stronger everyday rofl more and more and more teams and organisations and LANs picking it up"
More teams and lans, less players on steam, something's wrong, don't you think?
More teams and lans, less players on steam, something's wrong, don't you think?
54k players + the non-steam players = 95k or more
And you're saying that the game is dead , dafuq are you blind ?
And you're saying that the game is dead , dafuq are you blind ?
csgo will NEVER be more successful than 1.6, NEVER.
And sky is blue so i need to post it here so every1 else knows it too!
one 1.6m tournament by Valve, and there we have it :)
success is not measured by money. success is measured with long term, and not short term.
Ofc not, you hippies make me sick...
well if you have been in economics, you would know anything long term would outlive and outperform anything short term. 40k tournies, 3 to 4 of them a year for 10 years> one 1.6mill$ tourny.
Lmao. I hope you are an immigrant 'cause this is the dumbest thing I read in a while :D...
LOL not sure if stupid or just troll
i dont think so either but lets hope and support it and let it become 50% of what 1.6 was.
Bullshit, it's too early to talk about that.In other case if csgo dies, competitive FPS gaming will die too.Maybe it won't be big as 1.6 was, but it's only option for counter strike series players.
why 1.6 getting that big? because it's easy to play,easy to set up, you can play 1.6 with a onboard graphic card laptop,and,you can easily download a non steam version to play on a dedicated server....i love 1.6,but i'm with cs:go now, it's ok that the game got a lot of things to fix, but hey, it's 2012! people need something new, something same same but different!
Yeah, I agree with what Nomad said, but the logic underlying this blog is correct.
Unfortunately the competitive PC FPS scene is stagnant. CoDs, MWs, GOs cannot stand up to the masterpieces that were 1.6, Q3/QL, etc. I'm sure that those games are fun and yes people will play them for a while, but if you want the game to last then it needs to rely on something other than novelty value.
Unfortunately the competitive PC FPS scene is stagnant. CoDs, MWs, GOs cannot stand up to the masterpieces that were 1.6, Q3/QL, etc. I'm sure that those games are fun and yes people will play them for a while, but if you want the game to last then it needs to rely on something other than novelty value.
I'm just laughing at this guys who show steam stats with great pleasure.
Numbers are nothing. Quality is more important than quanity.
Competetive 1.6 is dead.
But the number of CS:GO teams and players are rising
Numbers are nothing. Quality is more important than quanity.
Competetive 1.6 is dead.
But the number of CS:GO teams and players are rising
Some more news for you u guis .. Millienium just picked up a csgo team, another organisation taking the plunge into a dead game ey?
So what? Suddenly thousand of Millienium fans will start play becouse Millienium picked up CSGO team?
Why put words into my mouth? Where did I say such a thing young man?Please inform me.
"But the number of CS:GO teams and players are rising" just teams nothing more.
Quality? That's just nonsense. It's all about the numbers. Popular game = big numbers, big sponsors
they have to start with the big teams and big sponsors and then getting thoose young casual gamers. not the other way around.
CS saga must die. We will watch end of the FPS era. Valve had good intentions but they dont understand our community. They dont understand the nature of this game. Problem with CS 1.6 is such that the game is too good. Its awesome. Like anomaly Neo in Matrix. CS GO is only a good game like Morpheus. Nothing more. GO share the fate of Source becouse its not enough good.
Many people says that stats doesn't matter and this is BIG LIE. Who are the pro players without support of the community? Without fans? Who will be watch them? They are nothing. We will have 20 Pro teams and 0 ordinary players. This is road to nowhere.
Many people says that stats doesn't matter and this is BIG LIE. Who are the pro players without support of the community? Without fans? Who will be watch them? They are nothing. We will have 20 Pro teams and 0 ordinary players. This is road to nowhere.
valve currently building the audience for the csgo community.not like source.and...who knows ? let's see !
You are talking like cs:go is counter strike 2. And having 50k ordinary players and no pro players is road to where?
1.6 is dead game. Only pubs :D Whole scene is dead.
maybe dead but we dont gonna watch cs:go
This is the major problem with GO. 1.6 is dead. Agree with that. GO kills CS saga becouse is to boring to watch. Its not intresting like 1.6. LOL/SC2/DOTA2 will dominate the whole esport scene becouse Valve is to dumb to creat an awesome FPS game like 1.6 was.
CS GO for me is a good game for casuals with consols. Its like CSS for consol players. Look at buy menu for example.
If cs go would be a AWESOME game im sure the 1.6 community will be play it. We have now 15 Pro teams and 20k community. This is a disaster for FPS scene. Look at LOL/SC2/DOTA2 scene. ITS MASIVE and huge. Now look at CS GO scene. Its pathetic. GO need minimum 100K players right now. If game is loosing players after relese something is wrong.
Sry for my crapy english.
Post edited 2012-09-21 14:39:05
CS GO for me is a good game for casuals with consols. Its like CSS for consol players. Look at buy menu for example.
If cs go would be a AWESOME game im sure the 1.6 community will be play it. We have now 15 Pro teams and 20k community. This is a disaster for FPS scene. Look at LOL/SC2/DOTA2 scene. ITS MASIVE and huge. Now look at CS GO scene. Its pathetic. GO need minimum 100K players right now. If game is loosing players after relese something is wrong.
Sry for my crapy english.
Post edited 2012-09-21 14:39:05
tbh LoL for exemple have a really big community who watch game not because the game is more interesting to watch than an FPS but because the player meet the comunity. In LoL lot of people look stream because of streamers. They stream, talk to people, explains lot of things and be just a part of the community, they are all different with different post and way to talk, so we can like one streamer & follow him all day. CS player just start to stream now, but it's like they are really late on that point and it's really sad because stream make a really great pub for the game & streamer who have pretty constant viewers can actually have a pretty good pay with it. It's good for all, stream-player/casual players/broadcast/sponsor&game.
Post edited 2012-09-22 07:39:36
Post edited 2012-09-22 07:39:36
The guy is trying to talk like cs:go was around for 5 years or something, what a joke. 1.6 started the same way (the author probably wasn't even born then) as cs:go now. 1.5 players also didn't want to switch even some pro's retired, but still they played the game and during time they enjoy it. I have to agree that the 1.6 was community was successful, but also it contains a lot of kids who besides playing the game have no knowledge of esports at all
You can't compare 1.6 to GO like you compare 1.5 to 1.6, man. It's totally out of context since GO was made based on a different *worse* engine and physics. For that reason, people will react to it differently than they did when migrating from 1.5 to 1.6, so your comparison is irrelevant.
I don't understand what your point was but when 1.6 come out it was totally new with improved graphics, new guns, with new updates to the game. The same is right now
But, it used the same engine as 1.5. The right comparison for it is that 1.5 being Source, and 1.6 being GO.
I'm not talking about the engine. I'm talking about the stuff 1.6 had improved that 1.5 hadn't in witch a lot of 1.5 players back then were pissed of
Most of the time I just see complaints towards CSGO about how limited and slow the player movement is, how random the aim is, how retarded the hitboxes are, and other similar things. Those problems come from the previously mentioned *worse* game engine/physics, so, I can't see how your post is relevant?
Post edited 2012-09-20 22:08:54
Post edited 2012-09-20 22:08:54
Now you're talking about a whole different topic
Here we go again..
In #81, you said, "the same is right now", which is totally false since back then the problems people were hating for weren't on an 'engine' level whereas they are now. So, players will have more difficulty in adjusting to the new game than they used to with 1.6 from 1.5.
In #81, you said, "the same is right now", which is totally false since back then the problems people were hating for weren't on an 'engine' level whereas they are now. So, players will have more difficulty in adjusting to the new game than they used to with 1.6 from 1.5.
You just bring up your own opinion and like I said i wasn't even talking about the engine. But i have to agree to you
You said in your first post in #61 that 1.5 players struggled to move on to 1.6, but in the end, they did move on and did enjoy 1.6. Then, you said that the same thing is happening right now with 1.6 players. But, I had to disagree because back then the transitition to 1.6 from 1.5 wasn't that hard after all since both were based on the same engine, and the problems people were complaining for were just new guns, skins, some minor updates-or to put it simpler, the problems weren't on an 'engine' level, whereas they are now in GO, which was why I had to disagree on the part where you mentioned "the same is right now" in #81, and told you that the comparison of the transition from 1.5 to 1.6, to the transition from 1.6 to GO was irrelevant.
Its true. But from 1.6 engine you can't make another competitive counter strike, thats the point
that is one of the most ridiculous posts ive ever seen. this engine is only "worst" because its not 100% 1.6, in other words because you dont like it. If it was you wouldnt be saying that. how fucking hypocrit can you be?
Post edited 2012-09-20 21:33:19
Post edited 2012-09-20 21:33:19
I call it 'worse', because it's slower, buggy, and glitchy.
no mate, you call it worse cause it isnt the say you want it to be. 1.6 wasnt perfect as well and still you love it. its all in your head and in your fanboyism
I told you the real reasons of why I called it as an inferior engine, and now you're telling me that I lied? What are you? A wizard or something?
i never said you lied lol. you simply think GO is worse than 1.6 because you do... 1.6 also has many bugs and glitches and still lots of people love it.. its only a matter of taste. dont insult me trying to say i said you lied
Then, what was this when I told you that what makes it worse is just that it's slower, buggy, and glitchy:
"no mate, you call it worse cause it isnt the say you want it to be."
Is it not an accusation towards me telling me that I called it worse for the sole reason that I didn't like the game? If you can't back the accusation up with proofs, then I should've been the one who feels insulted.
Well, I told you it's slower, plus, buggy and glitchy, in a bad way type of buggy and glitchy. Indeed 1.6 does also have bugs and glitches, but in a good way. Then, how are bugs and glitches categorized as good or bad? Here, it's like when playing a MMORPG, CS:GO bugs make your character to stuck at a corner next to a big tree, and in order to get away from it is to ask other player to kill you which in the end resulting in your experience points to be decreased, while 1.6 bugs make your character to be able to run pass through a wall of mountains which is free of monsters and have accesses to 3 different cities from there.
Yes, the key word is 'limitation'.
Which do you prefer? Take your pick.
"no mate, you call it worse cause it isnt the say you want it to be."
Is it not an accusation towards me telling me that I called it worse for the sole reason that I didn't like the game? If you can't back the accusation up with proofs, then I should've been the one who feels insulted.
Well, I told you it's slower, plus, buggy and glitchy, in a bad way type of buggy and glitchy. Indeed 1.6 does also have bugs and glitches, but in a good way. Then, how are bugs and glitches categorized as good or bad? Here, it's like when playing a MMORPG, CS:GO bugs make your character to stuck at a corner next to a big tree, and in order to get away from it is to ask other player to kill you which in the end resulting in your experience points to be decreased, while 1.6 bugs make your character to be able to run pass through a wall of mountains which is free of monsters and have accesses to 3 different cities from there.
Yes, the key word is 'limitation'.
Which do you prefer? Take your pick.
im sorry but your post is a pile of LOL xD
comparing both games with a MMORPG? hmmm....
what proofs you idiot? most of you dont like the game because its not equal to 1.6 lol. the engine is not perfect to you simply because it is source's... besides, you said you couldnt compare 1.5 to 1.6 and 1.6. why? because in 1.5 to 1.6 you were not here! Because that time it was exactly the same!
comparing both games with a MMORPG? hmmm....
what proofs you idiot? most of you dont like the game because its not equal to 1.6 lol. the engine is not perfect to you simply because it is source's... besides, you said you couldnt compare 1.5 to 1.6 and 1.6. why? because in 1.5 to 1.6 you were not here! Because that time it was exactly the same!
It's just an example to show of how the bugs and glitches of GO and 1.6 benefit/disadvantage the players. When you read all of it and all you can think about is "LOL MMORPG" and no more no less, clearly you seem unintelligent. Think whatever you like about me, I've expressed my opinions, but you keep playing the 'judge' role and bash whatever I'm going to say with "No. You dislike the game, period". The conversation won't continue, since your arguments will basically stay on that sentence. Go on, buddy. You've gone through the right path of life. Good luck!
It's just an example to show of how the bugs and glitches of GO and 1.6 benefit/disadvantage the players. When you read all of it and all you can think about is "LOL MMORPG" and no more no less, clearly you seem unintelligent. Think whatever you like about me, I've expressed my opinions, but you keep playing the 'judge' role and bash whatever I'm going to say with "No. You dislike the game just because it's not 1.6, period". The conversation won't continue, since your future arguments will basically stay on that sentence. Go on, buddy. You've gone through the right path of life. Good luck!
Sorry dude but wtf does a MMORPG have to do with GO or 1.6? stop being a retard, i can also say you seem unintelligent by even make such comparison. i understand your point of you, but its wrong and the real subject here is the game engine.
but its the truth lol, u havent gave any arguments saying how GO is slow and buggy lol...
but its the truth lol, u havent gave any arguments saying how GO is slow and buggy lol...
hitbox is flawed you dumbshit.
netcode is even worse for hl2.
i mean fuck, hits are accurate in 1.6 compared to hl2 engine in general.
netcode is even worse for hl2.
i mean fuck, hits are accurate in 1.6 compared to hl2 engine in general.
LOL? You sure you played the game? Seems like another hater ;)
way *
so why the fuck did they release it... instead of listening to what people had to say instead of saucing it up and maybe taking a little bit more time to refine the game, they would'nt need to update every month, the only one to blame is valve for rushing a legendary game. i have friends who quit 1.6(to work and go to school) and i showed them cs:go, and they all laugh at the embarrassment of cs:go
because they dont give a fuck if its not 100% 1.6 or not? neither do them and neither do i. i like the game the way it is
ive bought cs:go and played it for a week or two, i didnt feel it at all, im not taking anything from cs;go, i think 1.6 is alot better game period, and im not gonna support a game i dont like, even many of the pros switch over dosent change my view on it. im gonna watch and play the game i like, even if the pro scene dies i will load 1.6 if i wanna shoot some headshots and kill some time.
Thats the way people, or kids who comment on this site should do. Without flaming or posting some crappy graphs about stats
you are completely right.. yet, many 1.6 butthurt fans tend to insult GO, source and its players just because they left 1.6 or played source.. theres nothing wrong in not liking GO, after all, no everyone of us have the same tastes..
Well done mr sherlock mauro2 holmes, you have done it again... You finally got to the conclusion that people play GO for money.. well done mate, well done!
But wait.... Theres something odd here...
"It was all about PASSION. Thats the word, 1.6 was played because of PASSION, and PASSION can keep a game for a decade on the top of the competitive scene."
If it's all about passion and not for the money... why is every 1.6 player and team changing to GO? Maybe it wasnt only about passion after all ;)
But wait.... Theres something odd here...
"It was all about PASSION. Thats the word, 1.6 was played because of PASSION, and PASSION can keep a game for a decade on the top of the competitive scene."
If it's all about passion and not for the money... why is every 1.6 player and team changing to GO? Maybe it wasnt only about passion after all ;)
Players had passion o switch to cs:go as fast as they can
True, i dont understand how these kids can criticise f0rest, get right or any other player... After all, they were only 1.6 pros as well cause of the money
They weren't pros all the time. They started playing because they liked the game (this might be wrong but it's unlikely). This time is different because they are going where the money is and, although I understand that as they are pro-players, you can't compare it to the time they started playing 1.6. Perhaps in the end they weren't that interested in 1.6 and were more about the money, but the reason they started playing 1.6 wasn't the same.
But of course.. Like you, me and most people, we started playing for fun, but in the end, the ones that want to be pro/ are pro already will follow the money.. Im talking about the pro's perspective... No player would play as long as they did if it wasnt for the money, not even the poles...
I think his point is that the game was loved both by the spectators and by the pros (at least in the beginning) which is not (or appears not to be) the case in CS:GO.
In CS:GO the pro-scene is, at least at this moment, formed by players who do it just for the money, and the ones who used to spectate them in 1.6 do not like the game. So the situation is really different. Should that matter or not well it depends on each one.
A lot of people seem to think that we must support CS:GO so that Counter-strike prevails as a FPS title, but others don't think that at all and I think is valid. Why would you play or spectate a game you actually do not enjoy? (it really doesn't matter if their reason for not enjoying it is as stupid as the game not being 1.6)
In CS:GO the pro-scene is, at least at this moment, formed by players who do it just for the money, and the ones who used to spectate them in 1.6 do not like the game. So the situation is really different. Should that matter or not well it depends on each one.
A lot of people seem to think that we must support CS:GO so that Counter-strike prevails as a FPS title, but others don't think that at all and I think is valid. Why would you play or spectate a game you actually do not enjoy? (it really doesn't matter if their reason for not enjoying it is as stupid as the game not being 1.6)
It WAS.
Oh really? I still see plenty of 1.6 tournaments.. (DH romania, PGS, gamegune some months ago, etc etc etc.. what did f0rest, get_right and many other players do? thats right, they switched to GO and you guys got all mad at them cause they had "no passion". ffs, they have played more 1.6 than you ever will, dont even bullshit me trying to say 1.6 was made of passion and love, cause that shit doesnt exist.
Because almost every events shut down the CS 1.6 tournaments.
Simple as 1x1.
If you do something as a pro - not on pro level, as a pro - so you get salary, prizes, it's pointless to stay in a game where is no salary and prizes.
I think the blogger means under "passion" that CS 1.6 growed huge because of the passion, and that's why organizers admit it as a real competitive game what has many potentials.
Where is no professional events, there won't be any pro's. It's another fact.
Cs1.6 is old - oh another fact - and many retards here think,that CS 1.6 fans don't want to switch to a newer game, but I think, it's bullshit.
This community waiting for a real successor of CS 1.6 for more than 10 years, but what happened?
Valve created a Source, what is a joke, seriously.
They get peeved because a free mod had more success than they x million dollars game.
Okay, one mistake, they left CS for years and after they found out another mistake, CS:GO, what is again a joke and they try to explain this mistake, that this is not CS 2.0 for real, this is just an FPS game. Okay, then why the hell they call it Counter Strike?
13 successful years of this game title won't enough for a separate category at least in Valve?
As I red they always got feedback from pro's that what should be improved, what CS 2.0 should looks like, but Valve makes as if they retards, and they didn't accept anything.
A many million dollars company cannot push down a free mod for 13 years so what they do? Because I suppose it was a very big barrier in the last 6-7 years, okay people bought the game but that's all, low prize game (low budget category) and nothing more only to absorb many many potential buyers.
Nothing more to say...
Simple as 1x1.
If you do something as a pro - not on pro level, as a pro - so you get salary, prizes, it's pointless to stay in a game where is no salary and prizes.
I think the blogger means under "passion" that CS 1.6 growed huge because of the passion, and that's why organizers admit it as a real competitive game what has many potentials.
Where is no professional events, there won't be any pro's. It's another fact.
Cs1.6 is old - oh another fact - and many retards here think,that CS 1.6 fans don't want to switch to a newer game, but I think, it's bullshit.
This community waiting for a real successor of CS 1.6 for more than 10 years, but what happened?
Valve created a Source, what is a joke, seriously.
They get peeved because a free mod had more success than they x million dollars game.
Okay, one mistake, they left CS for years and after they found out another mistake, CS:GO, what is again a joke and they try to explain this mistake, that this is not CS 2.0 for real, this is just an FPS game. Okay, then why the hell they call it Counter Strike?
13 successful years of this game title won't enough for a separate category at least in Valve?
As I red they always got feedback from pro's that what should be improved, what CS 2.0 should looks like, but Valve makes as if they retards, and they didn't accept anything.
A many million dollars company cannot push down a free mod for 13 years so what they do? Because I suppose it was a very big barrier in the last 6-7 years, okay people bought the game but that's all, low prize game (low budget category) and nothing more only to absorb many many potential buyers.
Nothing more to say...
I still dont understand that... If 1.6 is moved by passion, why isnt f0rest, neo and co playing it? :SSSSS I guess 1.6 was moved by money after all :O!
Just like anything in this world. Im not saying it is a bad thing, but saying 1.6 is played because of passion in the competitive scene is bullshit.
I dont know if you understood but i was being sarcastic there, ofc players are moving because the tournaments are shutting down and there is no money involved, i mean, you dont have to be a genius to understand that... But some kids here tend to believe these pros played 1.6 for 10 years simply because they loved the game. Bullshit.
That "Why is GO counter strike thingy..." Meh, sounds like the ordinary butthurt kid in hltv making topics on how the game is not 100% like 1.6 . GO is a new game and Counter strike has evolved. Dont like it? Play whatever you want then... Insulting the game and its players will only make you look like a retard and a frustrated kid who doesnt like it because its not as he pleases.
I dont understand your point in your last sentence. What were you expecting from valve? No new games to compete with LoL, SC2, etc etc? Mate, thats how the economy rolls... 1.6 is not worthy anymore then make a new game and earn more money from it, now one thing most people dont understand here is that no one forces you to buy COUNTER STRIKE Global Offensive. Just keep playing your old 1.6 ;)
Just like anything in this world. Im not saying it is a bad thing, but saying 1.6 is played because of passion in the competitive scene is bullshit.
I dont know if you understood but i was being sarcastic there, ofc players are moving because the tournaments are shutting down and there is no money involved, i mean, you dont have to be a genius to understand that... But some kids here tend to believe these pros played 1.6 for 10 years simply because they loved the game. Bullshit.
That "Why is GO counter strike thingy..." Meh, sounds like the ordinary butthurt kid in hltv making topics on how the game is not 100% like 1.6 . GO is a new game and Counter strike has evolved. Dont like it? Play whatever you want then... Insulting the game and its players will only make you look like a retard and a frustrated kid who doesnt like it because its not as he pleases.
I dont understand your point in your last sentence. What were you expecting from valve? No new games to compete with LoL, SC2, etc etc? Mate, thats how the economy rolls... 1.6 is not worthy anymore then make a new game and earn more money from it, now one thing most people dont understand here is that no one forces you to buy COUNTER STRIKE Global Offensive. Just keep playing your old 1.6 ;)
the passion come's from the competitive side of the game, you really think if the money differential was like 2-5k everyone would be switching so fast? these guys play everyday all day and yes they need a salary to keep doing that or they just waste their lives, but i can tell you 1 thing and that's that these guys didn't get here to try and be millionaire's they did it cuz they love the rush of being at a lan with your team yelling across to the other team after a beautiful 4 k, that's where the passion comes from. there is no passion for cs:go cuz they all moved for the money knowing its not the game they love
yep, you totally missed the fact they switched from 1.6 because that so called passion isnt as big as you claim it to be. they get paid, thats what matters for them ;)
wow you dont understand do you?
there is no sponsors that want to support 1.6 so either its shut down fps teams in organisations or its keep going with the new game.
Its a new game and thats why its so low numbers of players but as soon as this big tournaments is growing and more people see this on lans they will start to like certain teams etc and the fanbase+players will grow.
in 1 year i would say that its almost as many players playing cs:go as 1.6 everyday and alot more proffessional players.
there is no sponsors that want to support 1.6 so either its shut down fps teams in organisations or its keep going with the new game.
Its a new game and thats why its so low numbers of players but as soon as this big tournaments is growing and more people see this on lans they will start to like certain teams etc and the fanbase+players will grow.
in 1 year i would say that its almost as many players playing cs:go as 1.6 everyday and alot more proffessional players.
Please read what i said because what you wrote has 0 to do with what i wrote. I agree with what you said, i support GO, i dont understand why you are posting that to me lol
It has been hard for me waking up 6am to watch a cs:go match. Maybe it's because there has yet been like one cs:go tournament. Or am i just lacking PASSION?
Great blog, agreed.
For CS:GO to be more successful than 1.6, it would need to be huge for more than 10 years, and lets face it, not gonna happen. Like you said, its a different time.... tablets, consoles, etc... There is no way CS:GO will last even 3 years in my opinion.
So in the end, events will start dropping CS:GO, teams disbanding, and CS dying for all, and 1.6 will be remembers as the greatest for sure. We (1.6 players) were really the lucky ones, to enjoy all the glory days of CS 1.6. I kinda feel bad for source players and now CS:GO players, because they won't really achieve anything as big as 1.6 ever was.
In fact, I think CS:GO will die quicker than source did...
For CS:GO to be more successful than 1.6, it would need to be huge for more than 10 years, and lets face it, not gonna happen. Like you said, its a different time.... tablets, consoles, etc... There is no way CS:GO will last even 3 years in my opinion.
So in the end, events will start dropping CS:GO, teams disbanding, and CS dying for all, and 1.6 will be remembers as the greatest for sure. We (1.6 players) were really the lucky ones, to enjoy all the glory days of CS 1.6. I kinda feel bad for source players and now CS:GO players, because they won't really achieve anything as big as 1.6 ever was.
In fact, I think CS:GO will die quicker than source did...
You talk like a 1.6 pro who won everything.. Me as a source player have achieved the same as you did.. Do you really think you are luckier than me just because you played a different version? Hell no lol, source or 1.6 you felt as much enjoyment as i did :)
Not really. We enjoyed over 10 years of the premier top of the hill A class events, full of prestige, glory, EPIC matches, etc... And we were a part of that success, simply by supporting our game.
You, sAuce, had 2 years of enjoyment with CGS, and thats it. Other than that, you were used to small ass events, very little prestige, no where near comparable to the glory of 1.6...
There you have it, 10 years of glory vs 2 years of glory. Yes, we (1,6 players) were the lucky ones.
Have a nice day!
You, sAuce, had 2 years of enjoyment with CGS, and thats it. Other than that, you were used to small ass events, very little prestige, no where near comparable to the glory of 1.6...
There you have it, 10 years of glory vs 2 years of glory. Yes, we (1,6 players) were the lucky ones.
Have a nice day!
+1
Bet he was just one of the 2K viewers in source in the latest years, watching a game no one really cared about, only few people, while we were putting 70K numbers in IEM, and having a blast in a very active forum, etc... There is no comparison, we were really the lucky ones :)
Bet he was just one of the 2K viewers in source in the latest years, watching a game no one really cared about, only few people, while we were putting 70K numbers in IEM, and having a blast in a very active forum, etc... There is no comparison, we were really the lucky ones :)
and yet in the IEM tournament you've seen and the tournaments i ve seen you dont care about, we've had the same fun. You try to make 1.6 so special...
AHAHAH, im sure you are a happier person now that you enjoyed 10 years of 1.6... NOT.
quantity=/=quality.
Just because you've had 10 years of 1.6 doesnt mean you had better moments than we did.. source had its great moments as well, especially in 2009/2010 and 2011 (and even 2012!). btw, what did you have in UK? 1 mix with 10 players per night? ahahah. please mate, as a mere fan/low player that you are, you've had the same or less enjoyment as i or any source player did.
quantity=/=quality.
Just because you've had 10 years of 1.6 doesnt mean you had better moments than we did.. source had its great moments as well, especially in 2009/2010 and 2011 (and even 2012!). btw, what did you have in UK? 1 mix with 10 players per night? ahahah. please mate, as a mere fan/low player that you are, you've had the same or less enjoyment as i or any source player did.
tbh, 1.6 wins over cs:s in quantity AND in quality. just saying
thats your lame opinion no one cares about, sorry
the only lame here is you he said a fact . . . u saucers try so hard
a fact according to who? oh yeah, your shit opinion xD mate, a fact isnt constructed by opinions, its constructed by arguments, and since you have presented noone, make me a favour and stop replying. try so hard to do what? source is over but so is 1.6, both are history and you butthurt kids are just mad cause GO is all over 1.6 now. damn kids :D
again, what he said is a fact, according to the reality, and yes i am butthurt cause a great fuckin game competitively is being replaced by a fag game... you saucers must be so happy
No, what he said is a fact according to you and your opinion xD
wow.. i guess its time to say.... YOU MAD BRO? AHAHAHAH
wow.. i guess its time to say.... YOU MAD BRO? AHAHAHAH
you saucers are so funny really . . . so scrubs OMG xDDDD 1.6 can be dead but is just so much better competitively deal with it , saucers are all out of the cave now , what a plague
Well the thing is, source was bigger than 1.6 in the last 3 years in portugal so... sorry mate, this plague you're talking about... why didnt you say that in the faces of source players in XL PARTY? Oh right, because source players were more :) you're mad cause 1.6 is dead and ready to be buried. You know what mate? Keep crying at GO while i laugh at your posts AHAHAH
I don't know why you use the word "we" if people like you haven't done anything for the game besides supporting it like all every average pub player supports it by playing in pubs. Show some support right now when theres no tournaments and then talk something
People like him is responsible for putting a large number of viewers for sponsors, and people like him are the reason 1.6 was 10 years on the top.
You will miss people like him in CS:GO, when events starts and CS:GO`s viewing numbers are as low as fuck.
You have no clue.
You will miss people like him in CS:GO, when events starts and CS:GO`s viewing numbers are as low as fuck.
You have no clue.
It was 10 years on the top because that many years tournaments were interested in the game. If right now there would be a 1.6 match with 100k viewers o one would give a crap about it
Don't want to read this as I read the title lol
Everyday HLTV comunity proves that after all those years their are the one who are retarded.
I did not see those kind of topics at cadred.
There is a funcion to filter games or isnt ? Why the fuck all those retarded kids who dont like go just stop crying like a little kids.
Why the fuck its again stupid 1.6 community who cant deal with the things.´
Why are there so many retarded people who just says in every article that they dont dont care.. if u dont care then stop crying in everyfuckinthread.
Im not playing any cs, but if i was playing, ill definately woudnt want those 1.6 retards to be part of GO community. Let em have their mighty most skilled 1.6 game. Let em masturbate over awesome steamstats without any pro scene or event to watch. Let em saying hows their game is so much skilled even if 99% of them are average players and not pro.
I did not see those kind of topics at cadred.
There is a funcion to filter games or isnt ? Why the fuck all those retarded kids who dont like go just stop crying like a little kids.
Why the fuck its again stupid 1.6 community who cant deal with the things.´
Why are there so many retarded people who just says in every article that they dont dont care.. if u dont care then stop crying in everyfuckinthread.
Im not playing any cs, but if i was playing, ill definately woudnt want those 1.6 retards to be part of GO community. Let em have their mighty most skilled 1.6 game. Let em masturbate over awesome steamstats without any pro scene or event to watch. Let em saying hows their game is so much skilled even if 99% of them are average players and not pro.
Exactly lol I coudent care less if the 1.6 community supported csgo or not because there is no 2 ways about it the game is going to succeed with or without them, its just so anoying seing them cry on EVERY single thread.
"because there is no 2 ways about it the game is going to succeed with or without them,"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRDFV_j2H50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRDFV_j2H50
go back to cadred you crazy brit, lol. what sane person would believe csgo can get 5k+ spectators with zero spectators from 1.6.
and again "success" is measured differently from person to person. if the game is crap but decent graphics, csgo -> success, short term money for pros, success for you... because you couldn't care less about the quality of a game, I know you don't have fun on games / watching games based on quality - because you play and like csgo. lol.
Post edited 2012-09-20 22:59:52
and again "success" is measured differently from person to person. if the game is crap but decent graphics, csgo -> success, short term money for pros, success for you... because you couldn't care less about the quality of a game, I know you don't have fun on games / watching games based on quality - because you play and like csgo. lol.
Post edited 2012-09-20 22:59:52
Yes there is a filter function and there cadred too! no one force you to read this kind of threads on hltv.org.
Is all the same, they like trashtalk CS:GO and you 1.6 community period!
Is all the same, they like trashtalk CS:GO and you 1.6 community period!
Please bring swearing down to a minimum, you can state your opinion without the use of swearing.
Thanks.
Thanks.
GREAT blog, basically ou just said all the truth. I can't see how CS:GO can succeed, it born broken (exactly like CSS) and most of the 1.6 community didn't like it at all (pretty much like what happened to CSS). And to make things even worse, CoD/BF3 players aren't joining GO as well. The sum of all these factors makes CS:GO really doomed in my opinion.
Easy one, events and pro scene is the key. Years by years CS 1.6 tournaments lower the prizes and now they started to shut down the title.
That's why many pros switch to GO, and of course there are many "followers" and they said, wow, forest switched to GO, than it's means something, I'll switch on it too.
Of course it's not real success because they forced to switch. For a good game no need any force, players will switch without any force.
At the time fo Source 1.6 was on top, good events, prizes and so on and so on, and there were no any circumstance to switch.
That's why many pros switch to GO, and of course there are many "followers" and they said, wow, forest switched to GO, than it's means something, I'll switch on it too.
Of course it's not real success because they forced to switch. For a good game no need any force, players will switch without any force.
At the time fo Source 1.6 was on top, good events, prizes and so on and so on, and there were no any circumstance to switch.
These blogs/threads are getting so stupid.
Yea, CS 1.6 was the best (still is) counter-strike there is, but face it, competitive cs is dead nad pro players are moving to GO.
I have nothing against it, i even play it (i play both 1.6 and GO) and if you dont like to play it then dont, but no need to write stupid blogs about GO beeing doomed and shit like that, maybe it will die very soon, mybe not, the time will tell.
Yea, CS 1.6 was the best (still is) counter-strike there is, but face it, competitive cs is dead nad pro players are moving to GO.
I have nothing against it, i even play it (i play both 1.6 and GO) and if you dont like to play it then dont, but no need to write stupid blogs about GO beeing doomed and shit like that, maybe it will die very soon, mybe not, the time will tell.
Why do I even have to bother reading it... Why did I even bother to read it...
Blog is full with self-made delusions just to make up more arguments for justifying title of blog and refusing to find any counterarguments why cs:go might not be that bad. You`re just deceiving yourself because you hate cs:go and so for that reason refuse to look at it with open mind.
p.s. if I wrote anything wrong, even so I`m not going to apologize, as those endless CS:GO hate threads are seriously getting on my nerves. Blog title alone is enough reason for me to explode from anger even so I managed to read its content without doing so.
Post edited 2012-09-20 22:30:50
Blog is full with self-made delusions just to make up more arguments for justifying title of blog and refusing to find any counterarguments why cs:go might not be that bad. You`re just deceiving yourself because you hate cs:go and so for that reason refuse to look at it with open mind.
p.s. if I wrote anything wrong, even so I`m not going to apologize, as those endless CS:GO hate threads are seriously getting on my nerves. Blog title alone is enough reason for me to explode from anger even so I managed to read its content without doing so.
Post edited 2012-09-20 22:30:50
Im just writing in here so some thick individuals know that players like me are real.( i have never played 1.6 or source but i play GO)
My only message would be that you should play the CS-version you like.
Also i dont understand the need to constantly bash on others for playing a version you dont like.
My only message would be that you should play the CS-version you like.
Also i dont understand the need to constantly bash on others for playing a version you dont like.
It's just an example to show of how the bugs and glitches of GO and 1.6 benefit/disadvantage the players. When you read all of it and all you can think about is "LOL MMORPG" and no more no less, clearly you seem unintelligent. Think whatever you like about me, I've expressed my opinions, but you keep playing the 'judge' role and bash whatever I'm going to say with "No. You dislike the game just because it's not 1.6, period". The conversation won't continue, since your future arguments will basically stay on that sentence. Go on, buddy. You've gone through the right path of life. Good luck!
this blog is just ridiculous. impossible to read cause its too funny. can't even see while laughing & crying my eyes off how funny it is.
mauro, i think you are mentally retarded
Funny how much the amount of haters have been decreasing past 2 weeks, only the same 5-6 guys doing what they think they are very good at = crying about a game thats long gone and never be seen in public lan tournaments anymore.
for those who set the game filter, this is the few remaining stuff has "CSGO".
if you really dislike it, just make it disappear, dont talk about it any more, its not worthy of.
then there will be no csgo simply with this game filter on, like most of us. and hltv.org return to a nice and clean place.
if you really dislike it, just make it disappear, dont talk about it any more, its not worthy of.
then there will be no csgo simply with this game filter on, like most of us. and hltv.org return to a nice and clean place.
But but... but.. there are no 1.6 news :|
Awesome blog, FPS finishes for me after 1.6, i'm not a sheep following dickheads that want money! Time to play a game I like like dota 2 or something I actually enjoy playing. You guys Enjoy CS:GO?? Fucking bullshit. You simply play it because you feel like you have to. Don't let your idols make you do something, leave what was a good error and move on to something different. CS is done and dusted. GG
Just because you dont enjoy it doesnt mean other people dont. Quit being stupid.
No the game is actually fkn shit.. I can't even play 5minutes of it because the game play is for retards. You don't like it. Stop trying to be a sheep!
How do you know i dont like it? WTF... Its a matter of tastes! No one can like everything... You're a moron. If you dont like it dont play it but leave the people who like the game play it and quit your stupid thoughs about how we are "sheep". i do wtf i want, nor get_right nor steam guys are telling me to play this game.
If you like this game, you never liked 1.6, must have been a source fan or whatever, CS1.6 = a healthy person CS:GO = cancer.. So you're a fan of cancer and people dying and killing themselves. Nice one bro, you're the man!
After 30 hours of play CSGO I started enjoying it. Habbits are human second nature and I clearly understand why CSGO is flamed so much. This game is far from "f#@$#@ terrible". The only thing I hate in this game is AWP. Rest is just different, no better or worse, just different.
Looks like now is community splited to three pieces, not just two.. And that is a real end of Counter Strike on a professional level..
HLTV hmm im with you long time.
If people say fuck poland sweden sure BAN !
But if they say CSGO shit etc.. no need for BAN.
If you dont want keep this website free like always (SHUT DOWN TEHN).
Post edited 2012-09-22 04:12:02
If people say fuck poland sweden sure BAN !
But if they say CSGO shit etc.. no need for BAN.
If you dont want keep this website free like always (SHUT DOWN TEHN).
Post edited 2012-09-22 04:12:02
Awesome blog!
Feels like you jumped into my mind, took some notes an wrote this blog on HLTV.
Feels like you jumped into my mind, took some notes an wrote this blog on HLTV.
i play csgo for zombie mod. cos i like "CSS" zombie mode xD but play 1.6 wen there is pugs :P
People don't like changes that's why CSGO is shit and long live 1.6.
my reaction to this blog:
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imo, starcraft and 1.5-1.6 have been there the longest
but look what they did what starcraft 2, they made it the same game, same gameplay. just more simplified for the newcomers and newer graphics and look what it has become now. even more known world wide than ever
they could've done the same with cs go but they didn't wish to spend time into it and listen to the community
but look what they did what starcraft 2, they made it the same game, same gameplay. just more simplified for the newcomers and newer graphics and look what it has become now. even more known world wide than ever
they could've done the same with cs go but they didn't wish to spend time into it and listen to the community
Listen to a crowd and you never will do something good. IMHO.
Post edited 2012-09-22 14:26:14
Post edited 2012-09-22 14:26:14
trolololo
I think this guy copied what I told. If CS:GO would not be CS it would be only Global Offensive it didn't have maps from CS and eSports from CS, the player base would be at 1k.
+1
But all that really matters is that GO is shite and 1.6 is still a better game and always will be. Dont care about pro scene/money/sponsors. Strip all that shit away. GO is worse than 1.6. /end
what if go isnt in the top 10 steam stats?
the last 30 articles on hltv.org are about cs go or about teams stepping back for a 1.6 lan or switching to go, says enough doesnt it?
the last 30 articles on hltv.org are about cs go or about teams stepping back for a 1.6 lan or switching to go, says enough doesnt it?
+1
Guess lots of people simply got birdbrains. They come bashing here about CS:GO , while HLTV.org is about the pro scene. Pro scene shifted to CS:GO = HLTV.org focuses on CS:GO . Then these 1.6 'fanboys' come and criticize CS:GO .
And they don't even take the consoles into consideration. On PC the stats might be lower, but I'm sure there are a fair amount of console players.
Yo 'fanboys', don't like CS:GO? = HLTV.org has a filter on which scene you want to follow. Uncheck CS:GO and you're done.
Guess lots of people simply got birdbrains. They come bashing here about CS:GO , while HLTV.org is about the pro scene. Pro scene shifted to CS:GO = HLTV.org focuses on CS:GO . Then these 1.6 'fanboys' come and criticize CS:GO .
And they don't even take the consoles into consideration. On PC the stats might be lower, but I'm sure there are a fair amount of console players.
Yo 'fanboys', don't like CS:GO? = HLTV.org has a filter on which scene you want to follow. Uncheck CS:GO and you're done.
using console and joystick to play FPS games is just a tragedy
CSGO is future...
Just accept it and enjoy the game!
When u play with the right ppl it will help alot :D
Just accept it and enjoy the game!
When u play with the right ppl it will help alot :D
None of the GO bashing is HLTV bashing. HLTV do what they must, follow the pro scene or whatever. Who cares about console players? The console versions of counterstrike are fucking awful anyway so, why even bring that to the table? I was just reitterating the truth that 1.6 is, and always will be the better game. There really isn't a comeback to that. As long as you are all happy though, that's all that counts.
CS:GO - Is medium detailed and medium realistic.
Battlefield - higly relistic highly detailed online shooter.
Amra2 - super realistic super detailed online game.
CS 1.6 - CYBER SPORT
THIS IS IT! and I tell you why.
The counter strike 1.6 is a terrible game with awful graphics, absolutely no physics IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING BUT GAMEPLAY which is amazing.
Cause of all that CS 1.6 was taken as a true cyber SPORT. PRO players dont need the butterfly's flying around the map and realistically reflecting water when they are in the middle of a 10k dollar match.
It's THE GAME that you play not the field or the weapon graphics.
CS 1.6 has it's own place on the shelf of Cyber Games. It's HARDCORE!
Battlefield - higly relistic highly detailed online shooter.
Amra2 - super realistic super detailed online game.
CS 1.6 - CYBER SPORT
THIS IS IT! and I tell you why.
The counter strike 1.6 is a terrible game with awful graphics, absolutely no physics IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING BUT GAMEPLAY which is amazing.
Cause of all that CS 1.6 was taken as a true cyber SPORT. PRO players dont need the butterfly's flying around the map and realistically reflecting water when they are in the middle of a 10k dollar match.
It's THE GAME that you play not the field or the weapon graphics.
CS 1.6 has it's own place on the shelf of Cyber Games. It's HARDCORE!
+1
It's like to compare racing cars.
Everyone likes Mercedes S-class and BMW 7-series. They are comfy, fast, message seats and all that crap.
But then, there are rally or GT racing classes. And all they have is an engine and roll cage inside of their cars. Cause its hardcore. It's ALL ABOUT THE RACE!
Everyone likes Mercedes S-class and BMW 7-series. They are comfy, fast, message seats and all that crap.
But then, there are rally or GT racing classes. And all they have is an engine and roll cage inside of their cars. Cause its hardcore. It's ALL ABOUT THE RACE!
It should be called Global Offensive, no way there can be "Counter-Strike" front of it. It's not Counter-Strike..
cs:1.6 = esport
cs:GO = game
1.6 4ever
cs:GO = game
1.6 4ever
mate its the other way around.
1.6 isnt esport any longer since no organisation wants to support it.
cs:go is an esport since there a alot of teams out there.
1.6 isnt esport any longer since no organisation wants to support it.
cs:go is an esport since there a alot of teams out there.
Talkin about the real aspect of the old and the newest CS (GO is just a remake of Source with nothing from 1.6 feeling, that's why it'll stay an esport regardless of how many organisations support GO)
And my comment was posted a mounth ago !! why u reply me then if you weren't at the discution that moment !
And my comment was posted a mounth ago !! why u reply me then if you weren't at the discution that moment !
1 month ago you were wrong also.
Still is.
I don't argue with csgo haters anymore without asking their fps in game firstly.
it's funny to see how 1.6 players ownz saucers in GO... 1.6 is the most skilleable fps ever.
Cs GO is on the news cause 1.6 top players are still at it.. when they leave( if they will ...money says it all nowadays) it will just be dead.
cs:go doenst make me ... feel anything.. some ppl will know what i mean.
its just another game...like cod or bf
say wtvr u want.. it will have the same outcome as source did. without passion it will never be as popular as they want to.
cs:go doenst make me ... feel anything.. some ppl will know what i mean.
its just another game...like cod or bf
say wtvr u want.. it will have the same outcome as source did. without passion it will never be as popular as they want to.
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