Pro players mouse sensitivity (thread database)
I made new thread about it because old one I wasn't able to edit and that's why it was removed.
In this I share with you with database which I created in Google Excel Document, you will find there probably all information about proffesional players mouse sensitivity.

Database in Google Excel Document:
http://goo.gl/ju4yR
(I will update it from time to time when I'll get some new information.)

Of course you can still post some new information in here, but please only a good/certain one.
(troll and unnecessary posts will be reported and I think deleted).

You should do it at these points:
1. Mouse name and model.
2. Mouse DPI.
3. Mouse Hz.
4. Windows Sensitivity (6/11 or other).
5. Windows Enhance Precision Point (EPP) on or off.
6. Mousefix yes (which one) or no.
7. Noforcem commands yes (which one) or no.
8. RInput yes or no.
9. Drivers yes or no.
10. CS Sensitivity.
Optionally:
11. Actual photo with described mouse in his hand.
12. Proof: link to site with this configuration.

In example for 'Neo'.
Neo
1. ZOWIE AM
2. 450 DPI
3. 1000 Hz
4. 6/11
5. Off
6. No
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel -noforcemspd
8. No
9. No
10. 2.1
11. http://www.popgear.net/news/info/20120112_627.htm
12. -

Thanks in advance for your interest.
(211 replies)
Created 2012-02-16 11:17 by: micronn
great effort.....
2012-02-16 11:21:34
Thanks, I made it because I was bored and interested in this ;)
2012-02-16 12:23:51
Friis
1. SteelSeries Ikari Optical
2. 400 DPI
3. 500 Hz
4. 6/11
5. Off
6. No
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel
8. No
9. No
10. 2.5
11. http://static.hltv.org/images/galleries/4243-full/..
12. http://fnatic.com/players/CS/MichaelF/
2012-02-16 11:22:54
good job man : )
can u tell me if i can change the DPI of our mouse or not ?
2012-02-16 11:24:13
its not possible if ur mouse doesnt support...... intelli is the only example i can think of and other 5$ mice
2012-02-16 11:25:04
aha : ) ty bro
2012-02-16 11:26:56
well most mouse are on 400dpi default but hz are from 125-1000 intelli mouse 125 default but you can tweak it to run 500 or 1000 hz
2012-02-21 12:44:01
lol
2012-04-10 18:10:01
Xizt
1. SteelSeries Ikari Optical
2. 400 DPI
3. 500 Hz
4. 6/11
5. Off
6. No
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel
8. No
9. No
10. 3
11. http://static.hltv.org/images/galleries/4243-full/..
12. http://fnatic.com/players/CS/Xiztbam/
2012-02-16 11:27:36
Xizt and Friis use RInput since the model of their MSI laptops has Windows 7 and they play without any mouse accel.
2012-02-16 12:58:50
I thought carn used 1 in game and 1450 or something DPI
2012-02-16 11:42:33
Maybe you are right, but it's possible that he changed it to default dpi and other sensitivity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llFn-ysZ_Vw

Remember with bigger DPI on mouse your negative acceleration increase. RInput can decrease this negaccel.

Post edited 2012-02-16 11:48:31
2012-02-16 11:45:50
ya u made me watch the whole video haha didnt know you edited
2012-02-16 12:06:20
:D
2012-02-16 12:22:17
Important thing, it's possible that some pro players use different configuration in their home.

This configurations in document they are using for sure on most tournaments, because none of them don't install the mousefix and it's strange cuz we know that in Windows 7 we get random positive acceleration even when we have noforcem commands in launch options so in this case we need to install mousefix or use the RInput.
2012-02-16 11:58:28
micronn, @neo, what about 12. ? where do you have the info from? I find it really odd that he plays with noforcemspd, it's so annoying.
2012-02-16 12:40:33
From last linesman file pack in some ESL match.
2012-02-16 13:14:01
what is rinput? what this thing does?
2012-02-16 13:07:43
RInput allows you to override low definition windows mouse input (accurate untill 400cpi) with high definition mouse input (raw input, which is more accurate for high cpi mice). This is certainly useful for games like Wolfenstein – Enemy Territory as the engine only supports low definition windows mouse input.

Advantages:
* Prevents negative acceleration.
* More accurate.
* Bypass windows mouse settings (1:1, Low Level).
* Less overhead than Direct Input.

http://blog.digitalise.net/2009/04/19/rinput-131-s..

Post edited 2012-02-16 13:13:19
2012-02-16 13:12:40
So should we use markC and rinput or just rinput/markC
2012-02-16 13:34:00
RInput (Windows 7):
+ completely removes positive windows acceleration
+ decreases negative acceleration for users who is using more than 500dpi on their mouse
+ in-game always forcing windows sensitivity to 6/11
- exe program but it's safe for VAC and AC's
- different mousefix module

Mousefix MarkC (Windows 7):
+ precise mousefix module (I like it more)
+/- removes positive windows acceleration, but rarely it's not working at all because we get for every 30sec. random accel (solution: reinstall mousefix and reboot pc, sometimes it helps)
- we get still hardware negative acceleration

2012-02-16 13:58:51
thats something I cant never tell, I never feel the random accel people might get

perhaps cuz I use fast sens? 4.2 in game 6/11 400dpi
2012-02-16 18:37:15
For sure.
This is very noticeable at low sensitivity.
2012-02-16 21:11:26
i use accelfix.exe which is strips accel off on the driver level... like markc's.. haven't had any problems w/ it. .and it's consistent.
2012-03-07 10:56:22
stupid... just put distance (cm or in) moved to perform a 180degree turn.

the list of settings just to determine someones sensitivity is absurd imo. and most of the time can't be duplicated identically on diff machines/environments.. CENTIMETERS AND INCHES>. universal language we all speak... get w/ it already..

TIRED Of seein' these threads w/ a list of settings that dont mean shit
2012-02-16 13:17:06
Some players like trace play with acceleration and the distance to perform a 180degree turn is always different.
2012-02-16 13:22:40
Answer to first sentence:
It will not be a perfect measure and how can you get it from pro players, impossible.

Answer to second sentence:
So not 'sensitivity' but 'configuration' or 'sensitivity configuration' it's ok for you now?
And we all know that monitor Hz is changing overall sensitivity, and of course it can be duplicated identically on diff machines.
2012-02-16 13:28:23
hz does not change sensitivity.. it changes your visual perception of the sen.
2012-03-07 10:57:40
Yes, but sensitivity too, ask pro players or even check it.
2012-03-07 11:00:24
It doesn't change sensitivity at all.
2013-03-25 11:33:17
check it with ie 1.1 or 3.0
2012-06-18 15:50:25
f0rest:
1. SteelSeries Kinzu (v1)
2. 400 DPI
3. 500Hz
4. 6/11
5. Off
6. No
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel
8. Not sure
9. Yes (But not on LAN events)
10. 3.5
11. http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=154&galleryid=3905..
12. http://www.sk-gaming.com/member/f0rest

GeT_RiGhT:
1. SteelSeries Xai
2. 400 DPI
3. 500 Hz
4. 6/11
5. Off
6. No
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel
8. Not sure
9. Yes (But not on LAN events)
10. 2.9
11. http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=154&galleryid=2848..
12. http://www.sk-gaming.com/member/GeT_RiGhT

markeloff:
1. SteelSeries Xai (R.U.S.E edition sometimes)
2. 400 DPI
3. 500 Hz
4. 6/11
5. Off
6. I'm not sure, but I think he uses MarkC mousefix
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel
8. No (He uses Windows XP, so there's no need to use it)
9. Yes (But not on LAN events)
10. 1.9
11. http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=154&galleryid=3679..
12. http://forum.navi-gaming.com/navi_counter-strike/o..
2012-02-16 13:20:11
Ok, thanks but:
11. Actual photo with described mouse in his hand.

And are you sure that they can't install drivers on most tournaments, because I think they can and when they set dpi for their mouse they unninstall it.

About mousefix it's hard to say, maybe in some tournament they can, I would like to know this information from them but I think it will be impossible.
2012-02-16 13:40:22
Ohh, I thought that I should prove with a picture that he uses this mouse on number 11.

They don't install drivers on LAN events, because they have their profiles in their mice.

EDIT: markeloff noforcem commands: -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel -noforcemspd
And pictures for GTR and marik with the mouse in their hands:
GTR: http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=154&galleryid=2549..
markeloff: http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=154&galleryid=3905..
2012-02-16 16:14:10
Profiles doesn't matter and some mice don't have it.

GTR: I have newer photo in document.
markeloff: http://static.hltv.org/images/galleries/4439-full/..
2012-02-16 17:51:46
"11. Actual photo with described mouse in his hand." like you said...
2012-02-16 18:35:58
Actual - I mean newest/latest :)
2012-02-16 21:12:32
ohh, ok :D
2012-02-16 21:20:34
by: acdc
#47
I think markeloff use rinput
http://download.esl.eu/matchmedia/24428000/2442830..
2012-02-21 12:50:14
f0rest use kinzuV2 for now days.
2012-05-02 15:12:37
zneel
1. Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0
2. 400 DPI
3. 500 Hz
4. 6/11
5. Off
6. No
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel -noforcemspd
8. No
9. No
10. 2.1
11. http://www.sk-gaming.com/member/zneel
12. http://static.hltv.org/images/galleries/4243-full/..
2012-02-16 18:26:25
hm his profile on sk says:
640x480
Sensitivity in Windows: 6/11
Enhance pointer precision: No
Sensitivity in Counter-Strike: 3.5
Mouse HZ: 500
2012-03-28 13:16:15
So he changed his sensitivity in there, thanks anyway.
2012-03-28 14:20:15
trace uses 1.5 sensitivity 400 dpi 6/11 with mouse acelleration with 125 hz mouse right ?
can someone tell me if he is using rinput or something else...
2012-02-17 17:52:58
He is not using RInput because this program is not allowed in most tournament, but we don't know maybe he is using it in home but I doubt it.
2012-02-21 12:24:10
RInput is allowed in EVERY tournament.
2012-07-01 17:01:50
Good to know, thanks.
2012-07-01 18:11:23
You can't use rinput with mouse accel so no.
2012-03-28 12:51:58
friis rinput yes.....
2012-02-19 04:33:14
Proof?
2012-02-21 12:20:35
yest he streamed.... i din take screenshot
2012-02-21 17:33:53
what about spawn when he used deathadder??
2012-02-19 05:12:03
SpawN retired so he can't be in this document.
2012-02-21 12:20:28
Changes:
trace - Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 to SteelSeries Sensei

Maybe someone know settings this players: face, MODDII?
2012-02-21 12:20:03
moddii 800x600 small dyn 1 red
2012-02-21 12:28:31
No this information!
Read the first post.
2012-02-21 12:29:55
trace didn't change to Sensei :F
2012-04-22 18:00:36
He changed, but returned back to IE 3.0.
2012-04-22 21:35:03
As SK member he used ie 3.0 :D
2012-04-22 21:37:44
He of course cannot write any other than SteelSeries equipment.
On photos I saw Microsoft one :p
2012-04-22 21:41:24
by: acdc
#43
minet
1. Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0
2. 450.
3. 125.
4. 6/11.
5. on.
6. no.
7. no.
8. no.
9. no.
10. 1.5.
11. -
12. http://www.sk-gaming.com/group/17227
2012-02-21 12:32:44
Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 has only 400dpi not 450.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/intellim..

btw. thanks for info.
2012-02-21 12:49:25
Old 3.0 has 400 and the new one has 450 :)
2013-03-25 11:38:25
Can change's the Hz in Microsoft 3.0 (125, 500, 1000)?
2012-03-28 13:12:37
zoom_sensivity_ratio could also be included in that document, just saying...
2012-02-21 12:49:50
by: acdc
#48
2micronn
use mousetest http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=13:39172
my 3.0 470-480 dpi

Post edited 2012-02-21 13:03:24
2012-02-21 13:01:51
This program is not 100% precise.
2012-03-07 10:41:21
+1
2012-02-21 13:02:57
by: acdc
#50
lex
1. Logitech G400
2. 800 dpi.
3. Mouse Hz - 500.
4. 6/11.
5. Windows Enhance Precision Point off.
6. Mousefix no.
7. -noforcemaccel -noforcemparms
8. RInput no.
9. -
10. 3.2 esl aeq.
11. -
12. http://www.virtuspro.org/team/man/
2012-02-21 13:19:30
by: acdc
#51
trace
1. Steelseries Sensei
2. 400.
3. 125.
4. 6/11.
5. on.
6. no.
7. no.
8. no.
9. no.
10. 1.5
11. -
12. http://www.sk-gaming.com/member/trace
2012-02-21 13:25:18
by: acdc
#52
ins
1. Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0
2. 450 dpi.
3. Mouse Hz - 125.
4. 9/11.
5. Windows Enhance Precision Point off.
6. Mousefix no.
7. -noforcemaccel -noforcemparms -freq 120
8. RInput no.
9. -
10. 1.3
11. -
12. -
2012-02-21 13:33:39
Thanks guys, what about starix with his new mouse SteelSeries Kana and maybe other players with this mouse.
2012-02-23 19:13:34
starix as far i know he uses steelseries kinzu v2 in the last two tournament see any video from natusvinceretv channel from youtube and boila XD :)..
2012-04-13 18:12:36
what about [ craft1k , ANGE1 , ceh9 , AVE , zonic , dosia , romjke , fox , xek , ed1k ] ?
2012-02-23 19:19:36
cArn:
1. SteelSeries Sensei
2. 400 DPI
3. 500 Hz
4. 6/11
5. Off
6. No
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel
8. Yes
9. Home- Yes, LAN- No
10. 2.7
11. http://fnatic.com/galleries/465/iem-global-challen.. - You can't see the mouse on this one.
http://fnatic.com/galleries/460/dhw-2011-cs-final... - Here you can see the only the mouse.
12. http://fnatic.com/players/CS/cArn/

I don't know almost anything about starix, but I'll give you some info:
1. Kana
2. 400 DPI
4. 6/11
5. Off
10. 2.9

Post edited 2012-02-24 05:31:48
2012-02-24 05:30:45
Maybe someone know what mouse settings has MODDII on IEM right now?
2012-03-07 10:37:59
ya that would be nice, he's such a great player
2012-03-07 10:40:03
what iem? kiev or wc? XS

Post edited 2012-04-13 18:16:36
2012-04-13 18:15:56
http://ac.apps.api.esl.eu/linesman/download/linesm..

Thats his cfg(esl linesman file)

sensitivity "1.1"
m_rawinput "0"

Post edited 2013-03-25 11:36:09
2013-03-25 11:35:29
do you have trace linesman file ?
2013-03-25 13:21:45
Players who play on windows7 use rinput and those who don't dont use it.
I doubt someone will play with windows 7 accel on and go on a tournament and adapt to new mouse movement in case win xp is instaled.
My opinion
2012-03-07 11:14:15
That's why mousefix was created.
2012-03-28 11:37:17
we are in 2012
2012-04-23 01:47:01
why 500hz ??
2012-03-23 00:16:49
What about karrigan?
2012-03-28 11:37:38
by: acdc
#67
karrigan
1. DA
2. 450 dpi.
3. Mouse Hz - 1000.
4. 6/11.
5. Windows Enhance Precision Point on.
6. Mousefix no.
7. -noforcemaccel
8. RInput no.
9. -
10. 1.1-1.2 esl aeq.
11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtFE8Qi-Ock
12. -

Post edited 2012-03-28 12:45:18
2012-03-28 12:43:35
crosshair size , resolution ?
2012-04-13 17:17:29
8x6 medium
2012-04-13 17:32:00
Are you sure this is correct? Turning on mouse accel in Windows whilst disabling it in CS by using -noforcemaccel command seems senseless.
2012-07-01 17:06:16
Can change's the Hz in Microsoft 3.0 (125, 500, 1000)?
2012-03-28 13:10:55
yes, you can
just download hidusb, check mouse and force 500Hz rate
2012-03-28 13:15:11
for change dpi's need another Software?
2012-03-28 13:19:50
you can't change dpi on microsoft 3.0 or 1.1
2012-03-28 13:23:52
so, i won't buy it. hahahaha xD
2012-03-28 13:26:34
400-500dpi is the best for CS so you don't need mouse with much more.

Post edited 2012-03-28 14:25:30
2012-03-28 14:25:18
but, microsoft 3.0 have 800 or more :S, and i need a software to use 500 hz :/
2012-03-28 14:51:13
No, IE 3.0 has only 400dpi or 450dpi.
2012-06-19 12:14:25
xai
2012-03-28 13:17:58
someone knows zonic one? xP
2012-03-28 14:24:09
1.1a, sens ingame 3.73
2012-03-28 14:40:58
no way, zonic when was in mousesports had 2,5 sens on IE 1.1.
2012-03-28 14:58:06
He has 3.73 in-game sens, but with 5/11 windows sens, instead of 6/11, so it's 2.7975 with 6/11.
2012-04-13 16:50:22
up
2012-03-28 14:33:09
maybe dumb question, but using a different dpi and hz, what does it change? besides the speed. is it better to use lower dpi, and for what purpose?
2012-03-28 15:14:37
higher dpi - your mouse is more sensitive
if you wonder is it better to change dpi or sensitivity in-game and don't find a difference, it's usually better to use higher dpi
i.e. your mouse with some settings after 1cm move on mousepad, changes the position of cursor for 100pixels. In this example imagine that your mouse 'reads' every mouse after 1mm move. So every 1mm the mouse move for 10 pixels. If you change your settings to double speed, your mouse will move for 20 pixels every 1mm, so after 1cm you will move for 200 pixels. And if you change dpi, your mouse will 'read' smaller moves. I.e. you double your dpi, then your cursor will move every 0,5mm. So, after doubling dpi, when you move your mouse for 1cm, you have also 200 pixels change on screen, because now you have 20 moves (with 2times smaller dpi only 10 found by the mouse) for 10 pixels, 20x10=200.

for cs the best dpi: 400 (don't remember exactly why, you can find loads of threads about it) and 6/11 sensitivity in windows

frequency is just how often your mouse is refreshing and reading a move
http://www.funender.com/quake/mouse/index.html#pol..
"For example, say you are using a polling rate of 500hz (2ms). Over a period of 8ms, you move your mouse 40 pixels (constant movement, no acceleration). Every 2ms your mouse sends a count of 10 pixels. Now you increase your polling rate to 1000hz (1ms) and make the same movement. Instead of 10 pixels every 2ms, your mouse now sends 5 every 1ms. Either way, 10x4=40, and 5x8=40. same distance, one is just polled more frequently."

Post edited 2012-08-16 12:00:35
2012-08-16 11:49:49
taz,pasha ?: D CMON GUYS,tell me :),and ofc update this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AkghP..
2012-04-09 20:15:34
n0thing:

1. Steelseries Xai
2. DPI 1: 400 / DPI 2: 1800
3. 1000 Hz
4. 6/11
5. Off
6. Yes
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel
8. -
9. -
10. 2.5
11. http://tinyurl.com/48r7mee (Mouse not in hand but this is rly his cfg)
12. http://www.myeg.net/my_profile/profile.php?user_id..
2012-04-10 17:57:24
nothing 500 dpi 6/11 2.5 sens 500 hz
2012-05-02 15:02:56
dafuq is 5. ?
2012-04-10 18:19:51
Windows acceleration in mouse options.
2012-04-13 16:42:18
where can i see it ?
2012-04-13 17:28:26
http://kevinmuma.com/blog/files/mouse_properties.g..

Post edited 2012-04-13 17:29:37
2012-04-13 17:29:25
what do the hz of the mouse ?
2012-04-13 17:25:26
ty bro
2012-04-13 17:34:38
You're welcome.
2012-04-13 17:36:01
f0rest
1. SteelSeries Kinzu v1
2. 400dpi
3. 500hz
4. 6/11
5. Off
6. No
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel
8. No
9. No
10. 3.5
11. Any video from youtube.
12. http://www.sk-gaming.com/member/f0rest
2012-04-13 17:55:17
You should firstly check the database online file. :)
http://goo.gl/ju4yR
2012-04-13 18:02:39
i didn't saw sry.
2012-04-13 18:06:17
No problem.
2012-04-13 18:07:13
i want create new player profile for example delpan but i dunno which mouse and sensivitiy in-game he uses in he last tournament he played so , only know when he was a beast in sk for example DHS2011 XD
2012-04-13 18:08:52
Wait until he plays on some tournament.
2012-04-23 12:30:38
i dont think trace ever used the sensei... at cpg he used intelli 3.0, and now in wikipediots i think he still plays with hes beloved 3.0 :)
2012-05-01 20:11:59
f0rest are using kinzuV2 now, im pretty sure about that.
2012-05-02 15:14:58
edward is playing with mouse acceleration as you can see on starix kana review
2012-04-13 18:01:57
No, you should watch it carefully, because he said that he like mouse with hardware positive acceleration not Windows.
2012-04-13 18:04:10
theres so much bs around this aceleration thing lol,and most of the people who whine about it dont even play competitive wise
2012-04-23 01:48:13
true story
2012-05-02 16:20:53
what is -noforcemspd ?
2012-04-23 02:54:01
Forces cs to use your windows mouse speed setting instead of hl.exe's own speed setting.
2012-05-02 15:26:45
thanks
2013-03-24 20:04:36
lurppis
1. SteelSeries Kinzu v1
2. 400
3. 500
4. 6/11
5. Off
6. No
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel
8. Yes (Windows 7)
9. No
10. 2.1
11. -
12. http://www.speedyshare.com/file/Qamux/lurppis-cfg-..
2012-06-18 15:28:39
wmb1
1. Kinzu v1
2. 400
3. 1000HZ
4. 8/11
5. OFf
6. No
7. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel -noforcemspd
8. No Windows XP
9. No
10. 1.5
11. -
12. http://www.sk-gaming.com/dl/file/1b67d5b964b17b30
2012-06-18 15:39:25
10 - 2.0 ( or 1.9 , 2.1 ) The Most Used By Pro Players ..
Like n0thing , neo , don't remember others :$
2012-06-18 15:43:14
why now all plain without mousefix?
2012-06-18 16:16:24
Ok, I've updated MODDII, Gux, karrigan, Friis and lurppis mouse configuration.
2012-06-19 12:17:02
Gux sensitivity on ss kana?
2012-06-24 01:41:41
This topic should be put where any body can see anytime, I'm tired of people asking for pro players mice and settings..
2012-06-19 12:43:35
Or simply moved to http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=17&foraid=1 ;)
2012-06-19 12:47:17
woah finally a quality thread...thanks
2012-06-19 12:45:06
You're welcome.
2012-06-19 12:47:28
Windows Enhance Precision Point is better to be on or off for mx518 ?
2012-06-19 13:14:11
Preference, but when you played with off some years it should be off the same goes with on.
2012-06-19 13:16:02
Khrystal is using kana, check his group @skgaming
http://www.sk-gaming.com/group/9139
2012-06-24 01:32:36
Photo proof? :)
2012-06-25 14:22:11
i realised many doesnt use -noforcemspd any idea why is that the case?
2012-07-18 13:28:55
what about pasha and taz settings ?
2012-08-06 13:09:54
just curious, who's the highest sens user according to your data? :p
2012-08-06 13:21:02
f0rest, Edward
2012-08-06 13:59:52
no.... there are players that use around 4 or more
2012-10-08 21:34:37
how about StariX?
2012-10-12 16:24:19
It's in database.
2012-10-12 16:43:56
it's not complete
2012-10-12 19:32:57
Hard to find more information.
2012-10-12 19:58:45
do this plz <3
2012-10-12 22:00:32
ESL linesman files >.>
2013-03-25 11:30:29
Nice work...:D
2012-10-12 17:39:22
Thanks :)
2012-10-12 17:52:53
goOd <3
2012-10-28 12:27:31
how about HeatoN?
2012-10-28 22:05:21
Nope, because he retired and this thread was about active players.
2012-11-02 20:49:24
im using windows xp 64 bit
on i7 proc with ati hd card

that does the trick for me for playing high fps games
i just using accelfix.exe

to bad it doesnt work on windows 7 or i would switch the windows
2012-11-02 04:24:30
anyone knows what setting does heaton has?
2012-11-02 20:47:00
Hey.
I'm here to tell you everyone your WRONG about f0rest & Edward!
From the beginning they are fucking lying about their sens.
It's obvious since f0rest play with kinzu V1 he doesn't have 6/11 in game but 4/11, like EdwardfAnBoY.
I saw that in 2012 on the f0r computer..
So stop saying f0rest is a high sens player, he's not.
f0rest = low-mid sens with hardware accel. that why is so strong and Edward knew that.

kiss
2013-03-24 11:48:19
You may be right.

Can you find some evidence about it?
2013-03-24 18:59:00
Sure, look carefully at 4:56 the screen AND his hand/mouse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JomRdm77zn4
2013-03-24 19:35:42
Hard to say.
It's still possible that he used 6/11 and 3.5 sensitivity on this video.

Btw. check his profile:
http://www.nip-gaming.se/profile-f0rest/

Post edited 2013-03-24 19:57:22
2013-03-24 19:52:02
Well, it also says that he is using Kinzu V2, which he is definitely not.
2013-03-24 20:28:54
Hmm interesting.

Going back to his sensitivity, if he uses 3.5 and 4/11, than he needs 60cm to do 360 degrees, so it's low sensitivity.

Lower than my 1.8 and 6/11.

Site to check how many cm you need to do 360 degrees in game:
http://www.funender.com/quake/mouse/index.html

So I still think that he is using these settings.

Found info that he is using Kinzu V2 Rubber:
https://www.facebook.com/Officialf0restCS

Post edited 2013-03-24 21:13:23
2013-03-24 21:05:54
Now he's on cs:go which is a completely different game so maybe he use Kinzu v2 without hardware accel.
2013-03-24 21:26:19
He wrote that he uses Kinzu V2 Rubber:
"Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg: its v2 rubber"
2013-03-25 11:01:49
Can some1 tell me in which way mouse hertz helps in gaming/cs.
2013-03-24 11:55:23
http://www.funender.com/quake/mouse/index.html#pol..

The best and optimal Hz value is 500.

Post edited 2013-03-24 18:57:24
2013-03-24 18:56:46
1000 also, why not.
2013-03-24 20:00:18
Not stable and you lose smoothness.
2013-03-24 21:06:18
mmm...lots of CSS players use 1000Hz and also 1.6ers so it shouldn't be that.

What are you based of for saying you lose stabilty and smoothness? It runs well.

Post edited 2013-03-24 21:19:26
2013-03-24 21:18:27
If your pc / usb ports can't handle the 1000Hz polling rate, it's bad. If own a PC made after 2005, you will benefit from using 1000Hz.
2013-03-24 21:49:16
Exactly...but idk who owns a pc from 2005 lol and more for CSGO haha.

Post edited 2013-03-24 21:51:06
2013-03-24 21:50:58
Ultimate fanboy thread ;D
2013-03-25 11:25:07
Not me, but people who want to find some needed information.
2013-03-25 11:28:36
Yeye, im not flaming tho. Dont take me seriously
2013-03-25 11:30:56
Almost all players seem to use 6/11 Windows sens.?

Any particular reason for that? I have been using 4/11 since the beginning with -noforcemaccel & -noforcemparms.

But since the update, I cannot get the same feel with the sens as before. m_rawinput 1 does not have the same effect.
2013-03-25 11:31:02
If im right setting windows sensitivity larger / smaller value then 6 causes pixel jumping(= isn't as accurate).

But if you're used to it, you should be fine tho.

Do you use m_rawinput 1 btw?

see more:
http://www.notalent.org/sensitivity/sensitivity.ht..


Post edited 2013-03-25 11:49:46
2013-03-25 11:44:21
Prior to the update only used -noforcemaccel & -noforcemparms. But after the update, I am forced to use m_rawinput 1.

My win sens is the same tho, 4/11. But now my ingame sens has come down to 1 from 1.7 (before the update).
2013-03-25 13:21:58
If you use m_rawinput 1, that means that your windows sens doesn't count.

m_rawinput 1 feels about the same as 6/11 on windows.
2013-03-25 13:40:05
Because they want to have exactly 1-to-1 mapping of mouse movement to pointer movement.

More information:
http://www.funender.com/quake/mouse/index.html#mou..

Btw. m_rawinput forces Windows sensitivity to 6/11 always, thats why you don't feel the same effect like with 4/11 and with -noforcemaccel & -noforcemparms.
2013-03-25 11:56:11
No wonder my reflex shots are not as accurate as before. My aim as a whole has been affected due to this update. Aint a pro or anything, but my aim, spray, reflex shots, etc all messed up.

So does the -noforcemaccel & -noforcemparms work now after the updates?
Coz i am not using these in the launch options atm.

What if i use jus the -noforce commands and m_rawinput 1? Will i have the same effect as before?
2013-03-25 13:18:52
Nope, m_rawinput or Rinput.exe forces the input straight from the usb hub, which means it jumps over the windows sens part. The reason why it feels the same is that the multiplier is same on windows as it would come directly from usb hub.


1/11 = 0.0625
2/11 = 0.0125
3/11 = 0.25
4/11 = 0.5
5/11 = 0.75
6/11 = 1 (Default)
7/11 = 1.5
8/11 = 2
9/11 = 2.5
10/11 = 3
11/11 = 3.5

So if you have ingame sens 3.0

3.0 * 1 = 3.0 (Windows sens 6/11)
3.0 * 0.75 = 2.25 (Windows sens 5/11)
3.0 * 0.5 = 1.5 (Windows sens 4/11)

http://www.notalent.org/sensitivity/sensitivity.ht..

Post edited 2013-03-25 13:52:46
2013-03-25 13:46:30
Why do they all play on 400-450 DPI?
2013-03-25 11:47:13
They're accustomed to it.
2013-03-25 11:57:14
What i feel is, they have been playin cs long before these higher DPI mouse! So, they have been so used to it now, they cant play at higher DPI.

2c
2013-03-25 13:19:54
ScreaM
1. Razer DeathAdder 2013
2. 450
3. 500
4. 5/11
5. ?
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. 2.35
11. -
12. http://www.team-verygames.net/fr/index.vg#team_116.. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ScreaMFANS
2013-03-25 11:50:10
It's only about CS 1.6 pro players :)
2013-03-25 11:58:58
450 dpi cant be at razer da 2013
2013-04-13 23:10:19
barman
1. Razer DeathAdder Respawn Black Edition
2. 400
3. 1000
4. 6/11
5. off
6. no
7. yes
8. yes
9. yes
10. 3.2
Optionally:
http://esport.kielce.com.pl/foto12/120922_wsh/imag..
http://www.custom5.net/csgo/

TROLOLO :D
2013-03-25 11:51:13
@micronn, what's the difference if the mouse got a driver and not except that you can configure if you have a driver? OR anyone knows can answer please?
2013-03-25 12:03:11
A driver enables you to use the hardware device to its full capabilities. Whether or not you're using mouse drivers determines how the mouse is behaving and has tremendous effect depending on how different the drivers are.

Post edited 2013-03-25 12:18:09
2013-03-25 12:17:55
What do you mean by " tremendous effect depending on how different the drivers are." can you explain to me please what are those effect because i saw the link of the creator, almost most of the 1.6 pros are installing, then changing dpi etc and then uninstall it directly.
2013-03-25 12:36:44
Usually drivers are taking too much ram and create a lags in the game.
2013-03-25 12:38:43
Oh really? i might need to uninstall my driver a.s.a.p because i only got 4gb ram and a 2 core processor :(

BTW, so that's the only reason for the pros to uninstall there driver after they configure their mouse settings?
2013-03-25 12:45:44
Sorry, it's not that the drivers take a lot of RAM and create lag. Today's computers are more than capable to handle that. But it more to do with how the device is behaving as I said earlier, driver determines how the hardware behaves. Different drivers will make the same device behave separately and that would depend on what the drivers are offering and what impact they have on the device, which can be massive or slim to none depending on how different the drivers are.
2013-03-25 13:30:38
So in terms of fps gaming, without driver is?
2013-03-25 13:32:28
That would depend on what your OS is giving as the default version and how different it is from the latest one from the manufacturer.

Edit: There is always a driver, there can not be a hardware detected without a driver.

Post edited 2013-03-25 13:35:28
2013-03-25 13:34:49
2.8 on 400 DPI considered low?
2013-04-13 22:18:44
I used it for a decades, when I decided to lower it since I changed the Steelseries QCK into Roccat Taito.
2013-04-13 22:27:28
update for 2013 please

actually this thread is helpful
2013-04-16 17:07:13
Was, not time to update it.

Sorry.
2013-04-16 17:37:44
okay then

still waiting for it maybe sometime you can make some updates :P
2013-04-16 18:54:05
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