Kyle "Ksharp" Miller
I follow the cs scene every now and then but nobody seems to be talking about Ksharp/3D at all, infact i dont even know how many people here know them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Miller
Back in the days he was one of the very best if not the best and every1 seems to have forgotten him. All i see is Heaton=legend, spawn=legend, potti=legend, and i am not even saying that they are not i am just saying when we are including these people as legends why not include 1 more just 1 more ksharp. there are not many movies about ksharp but even in those few movies you can clearly see his skills, and in my opinion he was the best player based on Individual skills, not only was he a master of awp but he was surprisingly good with rifles and pistols.
WATCH HEATONS OPINION ABOUT HIM :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzIob7ynBvM&t=4..
(104 replies)
Created 2012-05-16 09:05 by: HoneyBadger
Nobody talks about him because he's American. All the remember names are European.
2012-05-16 09:12:09
+1
2012-05-16 09:13:57
Well thats to bad because when cs came out Americans counter strike players were dominating.
2012-05-16 10:20:20
by: mintt
#8
+1 3D was a great team
2012-05-16 12:37:27
ahahah in Source and CZ? OK
2012-05-16 14:30:47
you must be dumb. X3/3D (Ksharp and others like Rambo) have won 2 WCG titles, 2 CPL titles and several CAL-invite titles + OTHERS..
2012-05-16 14:35:03
ahahaha its u must be dumb... 2 WCG? one in CZ and one in SOurce... learn more, bitch
2012-05-16 14:37:28
you've lost it anyway.

U really think they were bad?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVtlvyMi8k0&fea..

Post edited 2012-05-16 17:03:32
2012-05-16 17:02:17
They were terrible. People tend to remember them for matches that went up to 30 overtimes, not for winning anything, simply because they didn't. 3D is the most overrated team ever, and their 2 major titles in the last 10 years were on Source and Condition Zero: doesn't count.
2012-05-17 04:18:56
The only team in history to win 2 WCG tittles in 2 different games. In CZ they beaten SK and in the final they beaten then the best team in Denmark TitaNs on cbble. Also they basically won everything when it comes to Usa tournaments. Next time write something you know and don't look like a retard
2012-05-17 11:28:42
"Also they basically won everything when it comes to Usa tournaments."

Oh? I'm sorry, I think compLexity's dominance on the US scene from 2004-2006 might have gotten me confused. Oh wait thats you.
2012-05-17 16:33:38
1st Place World Cyber Games USA 2004
1st Place Electronic Sports World Cup USA 2004
1st Place DigitalLife NY
1st Place DigitalLife GGL AmeriCup 2005
1st Place World Cyber Games USA 2005

Thats only ksharp's achievements in Usa based tournaments. Also he was inactive 2005-2008 i think when 3D won a lot agains coL. So yeah
2012-05-17 20:20:55
Did you happen to notice those were all national events? Also, coL was created in 2004, started dominating completely in 2005 and eventually won ESWC2005 WORLD FINALS, not USA qualifier. Not to mention coL won tons of CAL's, some undefeated.

2007-2008 both coL and 3D were on CGS, which means Source, so whatever happened then doesn't matter.
2012-05-18 03:17:47
"I think compLexity's dominance on the US scene from 2004-2006 might have gotten me confused. Oh wait thats you" Next time read something you write because clearly you don't have clue about what is going on. 3D won almost everything when it comes to national evens like you said, but coL did better in european tournaments.
2012-05-18 10:22:52
man.. i didn't think they were bad.. but they weren't so good.. dominating..
2012-05-17 05:11:15
lol?
so ignorant
2012-05-16 17:08:08
whats ignorant? thats just truth
2012-05-17 05:05:47
CZ is literally a carbon copy of CS 1.6... All teams played it for WCG. Why is it because 3D won it's such a big deal that it was CZ?

Ksharp was a top awp in 1.6 around 1.5-early 1.6. he lost motivation was the type of player that only showed up for practice and didnt work on individual game towards the end of his playing time, thus alot of people writing him off.
2012-05-16 19:59:55
not really...
2012-05-17 05:06:03
Against big teams like coL he had always motivation even without decent training. 3D vs coL on train is a good example
2012-05-17 11:31:52
newb detected.
2012-05-17 04:26:02
pff i've been watching cs more than you by far
2012-05-17 05:04:49
Watched cs and still won't have a clue about anything, what a waste of time
2012-05-17 11:30:14
u mad?
2012-05-17 14:19:24
oh noe
2012-05-17 14:43:21
i think ye
2012-05-17 14:44:59
craaaaaaaaaaazy back on track with troooooooooooooling
2012-05-17 14:49:07
why?
2012-05-17 15:01:11
yet ur still baaaaaaaad
2012-05-18 05:34:23
no its just the american teams are weak comparing to european teams so even if the player is good he dosent raise up if u know what i mean. but still n0thing is well know as much as european pros :)
2012-05-16 14:45:55
3d this is back in... like the 2003 days, around those years. n0thing had nothing to do with the 2003 days....
so he meant comparing old american teams to old european teams, and you know whos the better.
2012-05-17 03:52:47
don't forget compLexity won a couple titles and they own alot of europeans team
2012-05-17 00:28:15
You see nonEuros like (for example) ksharp and cogu equally often in those "alltime best awplegend"-threads as walle, Johnny R, vilden, Spawn etc etc ....

.....so whats the issue here. :D ,rly.
2012-05-17 04:08:03
Truly was one of the very best, innovative and very skilled.
2012-05-16 09:51:03
I have always thought that there are a lot of names to mention.
Dont forget johnny r, he was a monster with th awp too.
2012-05-16 10:16:24
Thank you for making this thread. For me he was the best aweper in cs, and probably the only player who played the same style in 1.6 as he played in 1.5 and older versions.
2012-05-16 10:18:26
by: darez
#7
He was the very best awp like 'the one and only', was like he invented the fast zoom and also Johnny R.
2012-05-16 11:20:52
by: ibtJ
#11
because his playstle was very unique
2012-05-16 14:22:37
by: GoMeZ - HLTV.org
#9
plenty of people on the same level as him who also don't get mentioned IMO.
2012-05-16 12:42:03
sure plenty
2012-05-16 16:35:03
Can't say plenty really.
2012-05-17 11:48:12
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=250&playerid=5542
click at "Fan" button who wants :)
i will try to add some stats for him later.
2012-05-16 13:17:06
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=250&playerid=5508
shaGuar, some stats uploaded
2012-05-17 00:06:58
Gg
2012-05-17 05:03:43
back in 2001-2003 he was ONE OF THE BEST, but now he will be just like Potti played in last week, very bad :) NOW legends are players like NEO f0rest Get_right Zeus kuben TaZ and many others.Dont live in past guys today is 2012, why would u talk about guys who played very good in 2001/03 ? Ok he was good, WAS. :)
2012-05-16 14:27:42
thats like saying who cares about Wayne Gretzky, u should only talk about todays stars like Ovechkin, Malkin, Stamkos etc.. WTF man?
2012-05-16 14:36:29
omg u comparing hockey to CS... its so ignorant

Wayne is THE LEGEND, everyone knows him.. hes like Michael Jordan...

Post edited 2012-05-16 14:40:06
2012-05-16 14:38:59
and your point is? names like Ksharp HeatoN SpawN Moto shaGuar are THE LEGENDS. they're like Bobby Orr Mario Lemiux Wayne Gretzky Joe Sakic Dominik Hasek Owen Nolan Peter Forsberg Patrick Roy.. THE LEGENDS.

Edit: and a lot more than those that I happened to mention.

Post edited 2012-05-16 16:57:35
2012-05-16 16:57:08
my point is that hockey cannot be compared with CS... because its a game of millions

and wait... u forgot Jagr... shame on you :D

Post edited 2012-05-16 17:09:47
2012-05-16 17:09:10
If u check my list I listed players that have ended atleast their NHL career, shame on you :D and yes you can compare em when it comes to legends.
2012-05-16 19:37:00
omg u think that if they ended - they're better?

and u cant compare... srsly

and man.. i'm talking about only Gretzky.. cuz nobody can be compared with him) even Lemieux

Post edited 2012-05-16 22:32:10
2012-05-16 22:30:28
ur just plain retarded.
2012-05-16 23:15:54
+1
2012-05-17 02:35:28
ahaha i'm retarded because you cant answer on this? okay..
2012-05-17 05:02:27
+!
2012-05-18 07:41:14
you are the biggest troll ever. forgiven, im sorry u had to go through this.
2012-05-17 03:54:56
i'm not trolling at all..
2012-05-17 05:02:42
well no prob bro, not the biggest thing going on in my life :D
2012-05-17 15:01:49
the thing is that players like potti retired in late 2006 (6 years ago)and those players youre talking retired long time ago(i assume)
2012-05-18 03:58:08
I ready to talk about Malkin and Ovechkin foreva! :D
2012-05-16 14:41:14
without these legends cs wouldnt be what is today, so i think that they deserve our respect, and new players should know about them
2012-05-16 18:08:09
by: ckN
#34
Ksharp, rambo, volcano, method were much better than potti in 1.6 after cgs

Post edited 2012-05-16 22:52:24
2012-05-16 22:51:59
#12 dont use words u dont even understand. U know what legend is?
2012-05-16 14:41:55
i will always remeber the cpl final X3 vs NiP on nuke i think in 2001 (not sure)

Ksharp was so good in this match damn
2012-05-16 17:35:20
Haha same here. The game was very different then. Bullseye liked to jump alot with the usp and the tactics were very "open", they just killed
2012-05-17 11:55:30
One of my favourite players of all times.

I love watching old demos/videos of these great american players. Ksharp, Rambo, Bullseye, Volcano, moto, shaGuar, method, sunman etc.

Old times fu..... rock! <3

#13 I hope your joking(?) 3X and 3D were some of the sickest teams ever and won alot of big tournaments. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Miller
2012-05-16 19:01:49
reply to his post so he/she can see your reply.
2012-05-16 19:38:50
by: ibtJ
#33
ya same with me. dunno why but there's something unique frags from old american teams
2012-05-16 22:42:55
Ksharp was the best in the world for awhile. Even when he was still playing with 3D he always outawped fRod. Also had a sick deagle.
2012-05-17 00:20:30
johnny r was also awesome.
2012-05-17 00:21:49
.

Post edited 2012-05-17 00:28:06
2012-05-17 00:27:33
he was a beast and he was still pretty good when 3d switched to source, he was talented and a legend imo.
2012-05-17 01:09:50
beast with the AWP
2012-05-17 02:14:53
Well, u didnt mention shaguar. Who should be there too. But you will only name the legends who pop up in ur head first. Maybe heaton, spawn, walle and potti are those players. But ksharp should definately be there aswell.

Post edited 2012-05-17 02:33:39
2012-05-17 02:33:25
Ksharp is a king!
2012-05-17 02:40:00
by: mah9
#46
because this is a european fanboy site no one will acknowledge how dominant these american teams/players were
2012-05-17 02:51:12
+1 haha
2012-05-17 03:56:12
+1
2012-05-17 04:27:05
were? in source? and cz? okay
2012-05-17 05:03:30
they win 2 CPL titles
2012-05-17 11:34:25
but they werent dominating

Post edited 2012-05-17 14:27:50
2012-05-17 14:27:23
who said they were dominating?
2012-05-17 14:44:05
alot of guys:) and you

"Well thats to bad because when cs came out Americans counter strike players were dominating." (c) rula2k9 :o

Post edited 2012-05-17 14:46:28
2012-05-17 14:45:49
yes when counter strike first came out american teams were pretty much dominating the cs scene.
2012-05-17 15:02:32
but not 3d.. and ksharp
2012-05-17 15:15:43
well 3d were americans so i don't think so.
2012-05-17 15:21:02
americans dominated only when cs was played only by americans

Post edited 2012-05-17 15:54:33
2012-05-17 15:54:03
i can say the same thing now about europe
2012-05-17 16:01:48
maybe)

but when the americans had already played against europeans, they almost didnt win

Post edited 2012-05-17 16:49:30
2012-05-17 16:47:48
2004 WCG final
2012-05-17 20:22:25
almost.. and that was cz..

Post edited 2012-05-17 22:31:57
2012-05-17 22:31:32
well they won that one against SK and TitaNs and they were better. Or you can prove me wrong
2012-05-18 10:18:33
coL in 2004 2005 2006 days shat on most euro teams get ur facts right idiot.
2012-05-18 05:35:40
*1

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-sn..

Post edited 2012-05-17 05:10:24
2012-05-17 05:05:23
yeap. the only truth you said on this site. :D
2012-05-17 10:06:05
true
2012-05-17 11:34:06
+1, players like fRoD, Ksharp, moto, tr1p, sunman, Volcano, exodus, Dominator, Method, boms, da_bears, etc etc... always were and always gonna be my favourites
2012-05-17 12:06:11
ksharp very best player in that time
2012-05-17 11:36:55
Back in 1.3 Ksharp was the best awper the game had ever seen. Bullseye and vesslan were close but not as good. Kyle made awping what it is today and earlier when there was no delay between awpshot and pistolshot he displayed some insane shit.
2012-05-17 11:52:33
true story
2012-05-17 14:22:47
3D vs SK, one of the best matches ever ;)and ksharp with rambo was definitely good players
2012-05-17 14:51:32
Craaazyyy goin on a troll spree in here
2012-05-18 03:32:12
I come from GotFrag and I miss those times when Americans had a non-biased site promoting CS competition, now they only got ESEA and WinOut, both runned as what they are, businesses.

Its a shame that their country is all about the $$$$. If it wasn't for the CGS' choice to take CS:S instead of CS 1.6 we would have a much larger fanbase than any other in eSports. We probably could have got a decent sequel with their strength and support to the community but whatever.

Americans sold out their legacy when they massively went to retire after the CGS failure. Sad but most of them have been gone for 6 years now and we have been doing just fine without them.

<3 Midway, MIRAA, Jesuit and the GotFrag crew.

Post edited 2012-05-18 04:11:10
2012-05-18 04:10:07
true
2012-05-18 10:23:57
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