VALVE bans
why in this days... like a 2 yers before has so many cheaters in cs servers.. i cant understand who valve not ban the cheaters... can someone tell me if have a cheat really indectavel or the cheaters just keep downloading the latest cheat of the month.. or week.. wherever...
(58 replies)
Created 2012-05-24 01:06 by: Fisca34
because cheats are better than VAC :)
2012-05-24 01:10:04
who?
2012-05-24 01:10:55
by: tHm - <3 tHm
#13
VAC - Valve Anti Cheat. Its basicly an anticheat client installed in allmost every CS server, however its extremely outdated, and therefore the new cheats can be used undetected.
2012-05-24 01:35:34
u know when last update was published?
2012-05-24 01:39:09
by: tHm - <3 tHm
#16
If I'm not mistaken, the last update for VAC1 was in 2008, but I'm not sure. It's a long since though.
2012-05-24 01:40:29
they use VAC2 now not VAC1 and have been for years.

Post edited 2012-05-24 09:54:25
2012-05-24 09:54:11
by: tHm - <3 tHm
#33
I know, but afaik VAC2 does not feature the GoldScr engine, and thats why allmost every single hack works in 1.6.
2012-05-24 10:10:50
GoldScr does use VAC 2 :)
2012-05-24 19:59:38
ask colon, which one he used to use.
2012-05-24 02:45:21
LOL
2012-05-24 03:19:32
LOL, i am serious
2012-05-24 03:21:22
THey played on eac... not vac
2012-05-24 08:39:38
by: tHm - <3 tHm
#34
EAC is fairly easy to trespass. Im sure youve played against cheaters on EAC, but still, coloN is not one of them.
2012-05-24 10:11:36
Agreed. Also, EAC is buggy as hell. It often shows "speed hack" warnings for anyone who's lagging.
2012-05-24 13:30:59
haha lol really ? :D
2012-05-24 20:44:26
play on secure or on administred servers only :/ or cheater creep out from dark like coacroacehss
2012-05-24 01:10:38
secure server?... nop, dont works
i have a friend, that like... was been cheating.. like.. EVER on security servers and all the shit valve can give..
2012-05-24 01:13:22
and he have wallhack and aimbot... i know that he cheats because we have been playing on team since a 2 yers ago... and he always have cheats
2012-05-24 01:15:50
And you still don't kick him out... okay, are you weird?

Edit: Just because he is your friend, doesn't mean he shouldn't be kicked from the team for cheating.

Post edited 2012-05-24 06:59:58
2012-05-24 06:58:38
by: hmmr
#5
valve should update VAC '-'
2012-05-24 01:14:03
i just cant play annymore cs because have so many noobs cheating calling me noob... lamme.. i just stay like.. poker face :|
2012-05-24 01:17:48
by: hmmr
#12
i know man D:
it's sad, try to play in servers with good anti-cheaters example eac or wire
2012-05-24 01:28:05
you should stop play pub. servers
2012-05-24 01:45:20
:;DS;:DAS;:DAS;:AD;:S,.dasd
2012-05-24 05:11:05
they just don't give a shit
2012-05-24 11:12:14
Valve didn't upgrade VAC for years. Cheaters are upgrading their softwares every weeks.
2012-05-24 01:16:25
exist a program to detect cheats in a server?
without addons from server..

Post edited 2012-05-24 01:20:53
2012-05-24 01:20:43
Without addons ? No.
2012-05-24 01:24:48
Than stop playing on pub servers..find team,play mix games,gathers so many options..
2012-05-24 01:27:57
by: tHm - <3 tHm
#14
Sadly people still cheats there. You cant get around it. Even EAC and ESL Wire cannot detect all hacks.
2012-05-24 01:36:39
coloN is one of them
2012-05-24 02:46:06
by: tHm - <3 tHm
#32
Will you just please let it go. coloN does not use cheats. He did once, but certainly not now. He's allways been good, he just never had a chance to show his skills.

In my opinion he has performed great in DEL, where he was on LAN, he won SLAP LIVE, a Danish LAN event with a mixteam, they showed solid work versus fnatic and ex-WinFakt on LAN, except against fnatic on de_dust2.

There's nothing more he can do, but I can assure you, the dude's clean.
2012-05-24 10:10:03
VAC for HL1 hasn't been updated since 2008. Every cheat released since then is undetected.
2012-05-24 02:14:17
To valve cs 1.6 is alrealdy dead, the proof is, can you remember the last time you updated your game? Just a shame.
2012-05-24 02:19:15
2 years ago or so when that duckjump update came out and then was brought back again
2012-05-24 05:39:44
every crowd has maggots
2012-05-24 02:53:43
cheats > old valve anti cheat
2012-05-24 05:02:56
what a bullshit that VAC isnt updated since 2008....... it gets updates all few months guys
2012-05-24 06:17:04
Yep. There is soft called "VAC checker". Cheaters uses it to know if VAC has been updated or not to be sure they wont be banned. Simple cheats gets detected pretty quickly (lets say its quickly) but they are getting updated too. More advanced cheats (working in ring0 mode) propably never gonna be detected because VAC cant recognise them as cheat.
2012-05-24 11:33:10
yes but they wont be for free. also wire and eac hacks will never get detected if you buy them :(

the EAS is full of hackers, time for dota2 again <3
2012-05-24 12:47:53
>also wire and eac hacks will never get detected if you buy them :(

There has been several bustwaves involving so called WireAC / EAC proof paycheats. So this is not true. There is no cheat that couldn't be detected, it's just a matter of resources. It's relatively easy for one to get their hands on undetected / league-proof hacks for Wire, EAC or ESEA, but playing for long-time and not getting busted eventually is VERY hard.
2012-05-24 20:22:22
i just heard that the esl cheat admins detected them by analysing demos and stuff. also people with SSH hack servers got banned. but organners codes never got detected yet :((( dunno bout x22 and people like that
2012-05-24 20:32:54
Organner's hacks have been detected in the past, not only once but several times on ESEA client, Aequitas (which was worse than WireAC) and EAC. And trust me when I say that ORGANNER really knows what he's doing (it's not that he's doing sloppy work, but it's really hard to prevent your software being reverse engineered immediately from the anticheat developers when one sells hacks as publicly as he does), you can't compare x22 or likes to him. x22 and other worse private hack suppliers have been caught even more often.

No doubt the league admins are also doing a lot of demo analysis, but if you have access to such sophisticated hacks that cannot be and won't be detected by any of the anticheats currently in the market, you're not gonna bust yourself on the demos if you know what you're doing. We're talking about big money here :p

Post edited 2012-05-25 17:21:37
2012-05-25 17:17:33
ye i know, but i was always surprised by "uprising talents" like zaider for example who used private hacks for a long time and covered it pretty well on wire
2012-05-25 17:46:23
Not for HL1.
2012-05-25 18:04:51
ofc for hl1, those public hackss doesnt last longer than 1 month until they are detected :) vac does a good job
2012-05-25 19:39:10
You're wrong. I'm admin of a gather community where alot of people get banned for cheating because the anticheat detects the cheats. How come aren't they VAC banned? Some of them use cheats that are from 2009/2010.
2012-05-25 21:17:09
then those arent probably public codes :P
2012-05-25 21:20:10
They are public hacks (like SSW, and old versions), or else they wouldn't be detected.
2012-05-25 21:25:49
which vac version do you use then, if 2009 hacks arent detected. VAC1 ?
2012-05-25 21:55:46
The most recent one.
2012-05-25 22:35:22
you are so wrong... xD
exist a cheat called simplewalkhack v.7.3 (i guess) that is allowed to use since about 2 moths... depends the cheat that u use.
2012-05-26 12:58:26
vac is dead.
2012-05-24 14:12:37
valve supported vac1 till 2009
2012-05-24 14:15:11
push F1 and fight!
2012-05-24 21:05:58
valve dont give a shit about cs 1.6 anymore
they are too busy with cs go
2012-05-25 18:00:30
by: d3c0
#52
so i can off VAC in server? if it lowering fps of server?
2012-05-25 19:44:07
Yes you can turn disable / turn VAC off, but it won't have any effect on the FPS of the server. VAC server does not run your server, but on the Steam servers. It checks for the cheats on client-side when someone plays on your server, not server-side.
2012-05-26 21:49:18

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