DoTA vs LOL
anyone who has played both, what you guys think is best?
(170 replies)
Created 2012-06-10 14:14 by: phyntzz
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2012-06-10 14:17:06
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2012-06-10 18:56:11
5074
2012-06-10 19:38:52
SOTA?
2012-06-11 16:12:13
idk 5 kinda looks like D...
2012-06-11 16:25:07
5 = S
2012-06-11 17:40:22
your brain looks like a pea
2012-06-11 17:43:33
kk,and now what? u feel better.... i said kinda looks... i didnt say it looks like D -.- i even used american language to you american dumb people understand it...
2012-06-12 22:21:00
5 it's "s"
2012-06-12 16:07:36
Dota
2012-06-10 14:22:01
by: J4MES
#3
LoL
2012-06-10 14:22:14
Dota player will say dota, same thing for LoL. What are you expecting ?

If you are going for more simple game without learning too much about every hero go with LoL but you need to have on mind that even if LoL is free to play you need to pay to unlock rest of the heroes / champions, also you can buy some items which will change gameplay or better to say give you some advantages.

If you want to play game with more tactics, more learning about every hero and his gameplay you want to get Dota 2. Simple, dota 2 is more complex game, totally free to play beside that store shop which is only for cosmetic items there, noone will have advantages because he bought something.

At the moment Dota 2 is still in beta version so LoL is biggest community...but again if you want to play on any competitive level I guess that you should choose Dota.

It's like 1.6 vs CS:GO / Source, you will never find thread with one side opinion. But If I need to compare I would say 1.6 and Dota 2 are best games so far on competitive scene.
2012-06-10 14:23:45
No, that's wrong. You'll not get any ingame advantage through anything buyable in LoL.
2012-06-10 14:33:29
oh rly? how about runes and new op champions? how about ip and xp boosts?
2012-06-10 15:01:32
lol, runes are only bought with IP. And you will eventually get all the "op champions", it's just a matter of time.
2012-06-10 18:02:42
but in a short run players who have paid has an advantage and u cant ignore this fact
2012-06-10 20:55:38
That's not a fact. A player who has all the heroes in not really 'in advantage' on someone that can only choose the basic 10. The rest of the stuff, like runes or masteries can't be bought with real life money.
2012-06-10 21:14:09
runes can be bought with rp or not ?

Post edited 2012-06-10 23:46:33
2012-06-10 23:46:17
Only ip. Buy ip boost and here we go.

Post edited 2012-06-10 23:54:13
2012-06-10 23:53:29
pfff
Runes gives u a real advantage. Ofc u can just accumulate ur ip points to get tier 3 runes, but it will take u 2 or maybe 3 lifes and this is only for 1 champ. So, i think that i dont need to explain how much it will take for 3 champs for example. Thats why people who paid has a real advantage.
2012-06-10 23:53:20
Of course runes give advantage. But we're talking about beginners here: they all start at level 1 and in Normal games are seeded in games with players with a level < 10. It means that none of the players have loads of IP and none of the players have acces to the really good runes which actually matter in game.

I'm guessing in your wall of bad English (lifes? lol) you mean that players who buy their CHAMPIONS with RP can use ALL OF THEIR IP on runes, correct? True, but it only speeds up their game (they have to farm less games), and doesn't really help much in the end because if you're 20+ level you're seeded with the much more experienced players.
2012-06-11 00:11:45
we'r talking about game right? so dont mention grammar here. u have serious mistakes too, so stfu. Moreover, its not my native language, so i think its ok.

Maybe its just me, but im 23 lvl in lol and its common thing that the rival team has one 5 lvl and about 2-3 30 lvls, so its common thing to meet some newbies there. Also, your argument "and doesn't really help much in the end because if you're 20+ level you're seeded with the much more experienced players" is wrong. Suppose, u have equal skillz and exp, but ur opponents has runes and u dont, so what u gonna do?
About runes, u kinda misunderstood me. U can buy an ip boost and receive a lot more than the average player.
2012-06-11 14:22:12
You get 400ip at level 3, just save it until you get enough level to buy runes...
2012-06-12 17:38:31
Dont talk about what you dont know. Runes give A LOT of advantage to players in early game and some of them late game.
2012-06-10 16:16:21
u cant buy runes with RP
2012-06-10 17:13:58
He didnt talk about RP did he?
2012-06-10 23:32:16
im saying that by donating in lol you dont get any in game advantage.not directly at least
2012-06-11 00:17:22
indirectly you do
2012-06-11 03:19:41
Clueless answer, I think you're the done who doesn't know what the hell you're talking about.

The best runes are only available to purchase after level 20. If you don't waste your IP's you'll be able to buy both AD/AP sets once you reach 30. The only major problem is that you need to buy rune pages.

And when you reach lvl 30 and play ranked you're supposed to already have runes for at least each position, cause if you don't you'll just be crushed.
2012-06-10 18:08:54
You seem to not understand.. If i have 500 euros to spend ill buy champions with it and then use my IP to buy runes while u for example with 0 euros wont have the same amount of champions as me nor the same runes cause you also need to spend on champions. so yeah, you can buy items that give u more advantage which is lame. it reminds of travian rofl.
2012-06-10 23:34:17
Use all your IP on runes and don't buy champs at all, just use the basic 10 that change. Good for your game anyway (to learn them).
2012-06-11 00:12:55
i know but lets do an example

You have 10 euros
I have 0

We spend the same amount of time playing and we get the same number of victories. So we get like 500 IP for example.

With the 10 euros you have you can buy champions while i cant so i will have less champions than you because we will both spend the IP in runes. So, if you pay you get more champions and more runes faster so yeah it does affect the game directly...
2012-06-11 03:22:11
lol no because you can buy just 1 champ that you are used to and get the same or more ip its all about winning, just because u have more champs doesnt mean ure going to win lol its all about being consistent and getting started off by buying runes for someone you can play well
2012-06-11 05:50:03
What? But if you spend more money on champions=having runes faster and better so you will increase your skill faster and have advantage against people who dont spend money and spend the same amount of time you do on the game.
2012-06-11 16:16:25
you have to realise something... by the time you hit level 30 where gameplay is tooken to a new level you already have a full rune page for ure certain type of champs you play for example a magic user or tank or wtv so yes spending more money will give you more champions but it doesnt make you a better player.. they give you a free 10 champions every week so you will eventually play all the new champs ect and when u realise u like someone a lot you will buy them and play them
2012-06-12 10:01:04
Doesnt change the fact that if you buy champions you develop faster does it? And btw you're wrong, i am lvl 30 for maybe 8/9 months now and i still dont have a full rune page lol some people just don't bother buying runes
2012-06-12 15:45:03
Look at your own example. If both players use their IP on runes the only difference is that the paying player can choose a few champions who he can pick WHENEVER he wants, when the not-paying player who puts all his IP in runes (which are worthless in < lvl 10 anyway) has to use the basic 10. That's all! The player with the bought champ doesn't have a huge advantage if the non-paying player is simply better.
2012-06-15 12:40:12
There isn't any items that you can buy, that someone who hasn't paid cannot get.
2012-06-11 00:18:19
read again please
2012-06-11 03:20:02
Tell me 1 item that you can buy that a free player cannot ever get, that holds an in-game advantage.
2012-06-11 10:17:29
We're not talking about possibility. The thing is that we're talking about how fast u can get more than others (buying ip and xp boosts).

Post edited 2012-06-11 14:28:30
2012-06-11 14:28:10
So no, there isn't anything that someone with money can buy that someone without cannot get within a larger time period.

Seems pretty fair to me considering these people pay and support the game.
2012-06-12 11:20:52
What he said.

Look at #101
2012-06-11 16:14:51
144.

Larger time scales aren't an unfair disadvantage.
2012-06-12 11:22:04
really?

if i start to play a game with a friend of mine and he buys champions, etc, who do you think its going to develop faster? Him who has the IP to buy runes or me who need to spend IP on both champions and runes?
2012-06-12 15:46:25
he will develop faster. but he wont have an end game advantage, or achieve anything that you cannot, it more time.

I get your point, but you are wrong.
2012-06-12 23:50:45
agree
2012-06-10 15:00:57
hon!
2012-06-11 08:36:46
Dota is better
2012-06-10 14:25:22
I myself plays LoL

I have been playing Dota 2 for some days now

and i can asure you guys that Dota 2 is a better game in the longer stretch.

Better Graphics and more complete gameplay, but LoL is free so <3
2012-06-10 14:26:49
what do you mean by free ..
2012-06-10 14:28:20
free to play,
no use for money :)
2012-06-10 14:31:30
you say "but" Lol is free,it's not like dota is not -.-.Imo i'd say its the other way around...
2012-06-10 14:34:09
if Dota 2 will be free
it will win over LoL anytime
2012-06-10 14:54:28
Dota will be free to play

http://blog.dota2.com/2012/06/introducing-the-dota..

I quote "Today we’re announcing that Dota 2 will be free to play, and contain an in-game store where you’ll be able to buy fancy gear to customize your heroes."

"Dota 2 will not be a pay-to-win game. All the items in the store are cosmetic, and don’t affect gameplay."
2012-06-10 15:02:36
epic shit :I <3
2012-06-10 15:28:17
dota ill be free
2012-06-10 19:32:43
Dota 2 will be free too :)
2012-06-10 14:33:03
yes and even dota will not be pay to win.--- dota 2 >> lol
2012-06-10 14:34:06
if Dota 2 will be free
it will win over LoL anytime

2012-06-10 14:54:20
dota2 will be f2p later this year...
2012-06-10 15:12:46
Dota2 will be F2P.
2012-06-10 15:40:43
DOTA!
2012-06-10 14:27:52
Both games for pussiehs
2012-06-10 14:28:58
LoL it's totally easy , i do not play that much , but when i go there , i can pwn some guys , so...

and on Dota2 , when i play it , i really get pwned , it's a very hard game , just for competitive scene , not for casual gamers :b
2012-06-10 14:31:14
dota!
2012-06-10 14:41:26
CS 1.6 !! :)
2012-06-10 14:42:05
ye ye...
2012-06-10 18:23:30
how do I to play DotA?
it's DoTA free to play right?
2012-06-10 14:48:15
Dota 2 is only beta, u must have invite from valve or key from someone. Dota 2 be released 15- 20 july.
2012-06-10 14:54:11
where did u get these info? I've read dota wont be released this year
2012-06-10 17:09:51
it will be released soon, they almost finished the game. just a few more heros to add and bug fixes, but valve said they dont see dota as a beta anymore and will do anything to release it as far as they can^^

btw i play the beta and its the game of the year, most competitive game i ever tried (together with sc2 and cs 1.6)
2012-06-10 18:22:38
Of course game is almost finished but there are still problems with servers. Also Steam will have problems with millions of new accounts.
2012-06-10 19:14:00
yes thats what i ment with fixing bugs^^ they have it on their to-do list at the developer forums
2012-06-10 19:22:35
LOL
2012-06-10 14:53:00
dota
2012-06-10 14:57:53
dota
2012-06-10 15:17:10
LoL any time!
2012-06-10 15:18:54
I really don't know why people always say that LoL is easier, or that in LoL you don't have to know in detail your hero or your opponents hero, or that in LoL you don't need tactics, I think it's just crazy talks. Ok, Dota2 is a better looking, that's because it's a 2012 game not a 2009 game. Maybe Dota 2 is a more complex game, but it just can't be that much more complex then LoL. Between Dota and LoL I pick HoN.
2012-06-10 15:37:01
its way more complex trust me, the hero mechanics, the lane control and creep deny to hold your enemys into an exp/gold deficit, the items are way more complex to use and can decide a whole game you sometimes have to sell almost all your stuff and rebuild to outplay enemys items etc. in lol you always have one meta game that everyone plays. i know some friends who have 1900+ elo in LoL and they cant even get out of the lowskill pool in dota2 (they really suck at dota) :D one of them even went back to LoL cause he said dota is too hard and stressfull to play

ah and dont forget the micro control, in LoL you only control one hero, in dota there are some heroes who can control enemy jungle creeps like "chen" or "enchantress" so you actually play 4 units with all same different skills (have to switch between them) you really need all of them for stunning and stuff and its very complex in teamfights

Post edited 2012-06-10 18:28:46
2012-06-10 18:26:47
true story... in dota you have much more to think about to win the game

2012-06-10 19:36:44
lol
2012-06-10 15:39:22
none of them
2012-06-10 15:43:58
you cant compare dota with lol -.- lol is just shitty copy of dota -.-
2012-06-10 16:12:56
counter strike
2012-06-10 16:27:06
+1
2012-06-12 22:32:04
dota > lol
lol is more noob friendly, and it's way more unbalanced, not so skill dependent, etc etc.
2012-06-10 16:30:56
by: GoMeZ - HLTV.org
#40
Both are good games and serve a purpose


LOL for casual gamers

DOTA2 for competitive gamers
2012-06-10 16:41:19
would agree 2years ago, but now the competitive scene at LoL is tremendous high.
2012-06-10 17:16:54
the nature of the game is like what gomez said... any shitty game will have a huge competitive scene if the company willing to pour some money in.
2012-06-10 18:20:24
css is a good example :D and LoL has such a huge scene cause its easy to learn and free to play, so lots of kids try it out and girls etc. who never played any video games before^^
2012-06-10 18:30:17
the thing is that LoL is easier,but still for players that perfer something harder,they can learn the game in less then a month if they read guides,watch sreams,watch tutorials....

i learned the basics of the game in less then a week... could talk with my nerdy friends that play Dota +5 years and understand them without probs
2012-06-10 19:25:59
then send me a replay of you playing a proper chen :D
2012-06-10 19:31:01
i said the basics,i can play as chen... but not so good like players that play longer then me,do.....

2012-06-10 19:38:20
+1 LoL is great for people who never played that genre to get used to it a little and DoTA is like 100 times harder and very tactical competitive. more for elite gamers^^
2012-06-10 17:32:39
lol ofc is dota
2012-06-10 16:57:23
for sure dota
2012-06-10 17:07:22
Just tell me something, if LoL is so easy, why in 40 millions players only 5000, has more than 2000 elo?
2012-06-10 17:15:21
+1
2012-06-10 17:26:17
becuase 39 milion people are dumbasses or just trolls that makes you stay at Elo Hell forever.... the lucky people won the first 10 ranked games without getting dumbasses or trolls and then it is easy.... i have 2 accounts and i know what im talking about...

when u get into 1.5-1.6k ELO.... just go with your premade and play +50 games per day (if possible) and you will get there....

anyway we all know what happened when fnatic 1.6 played vs best cs:s team,and won them... same would happen if LoL players came to Dota or Dota players came to LoL
2012-06-10 19:29:39
elo hell history, im 1900/2000 elo and i always play alone. one friend was always crying too about of elo hell, i start playing in his account (which was 950 elo) and i put in 1600 with just 2 loss, he start playing again with his account and he drop to 1220 elo again, always complaining about teamates and blabla.
2012-06-11 04:44:46
then why the professional player called reginald... on season 2,had a bad luck and went down to 800 elo....
he just wasnt stuck there becuase he plays ALOT of games... and also duo queue

Post edited 2012-06-11 11:02:57
2012-06-11 10:59:37
yeah sure, thats why he is more than 2200 elo on NA and EU west server
2012-06-11 14:07:56
nvm... you are portuguese,thats says everything...
2012-06-11 14:19:04
ok, reginald was 800elo LOOOOL, sure!, so you are Ukrainian you must be a hooligan..

Post edited 2012-06-12 18:55:22
2012-06-12 18:51:36
yes im a hooligan,and now what? lol
2012-06-12 22:21:21
do you know people use refferal account to get riotpoints ? just my friend has up to 100 accounts
2012-06-10 23:50:17
just telling that riot remove inactive account below level20, and that refferal is just for accounts which reach level 7

Post edited 2012-06-11 04:49:54
2012-06-11 04:48:55
removing below level 20??? i open my account 2.5 years ago and they i stoped playinng 2 years ago and when i started again my account was 16th or 17th level so why wasnt it deleted ? what you mean refferal is for accounts that reach level 7? people make new acconunts make them level 5 or 10 to get rp
2012-06-11 10:49:41
man ok, keep believe in your lies, if you are happy that way thats fine for me. have a nice day
2012-06-11 14:09:00
what lives what i want to say is that there are not 40 million people playing the real number is around 10 mill max
2012-06-11 16:22:08
Dota 10 times better!
2012-06-10 17:27:32
lol is for kids without skill :D
2012-06-10 17:31:41
LoL STRONK
DotA WRONK
2012-06-10 17:33:27
dota 2 ofc
2012-06-10 17:37:41
Idk is that true or not, but someone said that DotA has so slow gameplay
But ofc LoL!
2012-06-10 18:13:47
not really,LoL is much slower... and it is always the same.... farm first 10-15minuts (or even more,depends of the enemy team play and also where are u standing)

always the same boring 1-1-2 (1 jungle), when at dota u can go solo roshan at first level,you also can go 1-1-3 ,get fast the tower and after going mid... there are alot of strats that people use at Dota.... at LoL there is only a few... it is more about jungler ganking with midlane.... nothing special comparing to dota
2012-06-10 19:34:43
Dota is much more fast paced
2012-06-11 16:28:00
LoL fan so -1 .
2012-06-12 17:54:33
Dota2>LoL everythere everytime
2012-06-10 18:29:55
warcraft3 dota allstars > all.
2012-06-10 18:39:36
+1
2012-06-10 19:35:00
dota 1/2>>>>>>>>>>>>>hon>lol
end of discussion.
2012-06-10 18:46:13
I remember back in the days when I played DotA it was much funnier, and we had much better players overall (instead of the trolls u can find over LoL these days)

Unfortunately I can't compare it to DotA 2 since I haven't tried it yet, but I can tell that, back then at least, competitive scene was way more exclusive than LoL's actual scene. Even seeing top ELO players playing casual mode during ranked/tournament games can tell that.
2012-06-10 19:21:03
Dota2 for sure.... but the thing is if you have friends that play LoL and dont have anyone to play Dota with... and they dont want to try it.... you will perfer LoL

but

Dota 1 or 2 > LoL
2012-06-10 19:23:56
LOL IS FOR NOOBS n_n
2012-06-10 19:33:47
by: K38
#81
LOL, DOTA :D
2012-06-10 21:16:25
Dota2 all the way!
2012-06-10 23:39:46
if(you == good){
JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(null, "Play DotA");
}else{
JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(null, "Go to LoL u bastard");
2012-06-10 23:41:44
Java =.=
2012-06-11 06:01:27
lolwhat
2012-06-11 00:17:11
lol = for kids and retards

dota2 is pretty good but still too many russians (who play, know what I mean)
2012-06-11 00:17:36
hahaha true, i cant understand a shit :/
2012-06-11 04:23:05
CS > dota/lol/WoW/......................
2012-06-11 00:30:45
by: wrd-
#97
DotA better ofc
2012-06-11 01:06:31
HoN
2012-06-11 01:49:38
HoN or dota
2012-06-11 04:17:04
dota better lol, in lol soo many kid play and all time quit any game:-/:-/....
2012-06-11 04:19:49
for cs players LoL is best game no doubt, its not too hard to learn and its pretty intresting, some retard comments i hear hare, guys its TEAM GAME, how ucan say "OMG Noobs are playing only LoL" your team need to make good char pick's and teamplay good timing and position, so i would say its team's game, i wanna see how you will kick top5 world team even if your buddys are playing for 3years.. they will destroy you in 20minutes with they TEAMPLAY, and it doesnt make sense to say this game is for noobs and whateverelse you say... the right word would be, "LoL is easyer to learn than dota" but the competitive level is pretty high.
2012-06-11 04:36:40
Lol for sho
2012-06-11 04:49:22
DotA is the better game by far but Riot's legacy on eSports is gonna be unparaleled, they were the first developers that put em dollars to make a competitive circuit and support the spread of their game, now we see Blizzard/Activision and Valve doing exactly the same.

they saw their tourneys and players like consumers and they created an awesome format to support, feed and use their constantly fatter community to keep increasing its own size, genious stuff. LoL can improve A LOT and I bet Riot is going to get its revenge after DotA 2 steals lots of players from them.

so for now:
DotA 2 = eSport, it doesn't limit the players possibilities
LoL = flat and repetitive game, casual game pushed to be played as an eSport

Post edited 2012-06-11 04:55:09
2012-06-11 04:52:59
Well, Dota 2 is the second most played game on steam, and is still in beta. And some CS players like face, f0rest, markeloff, Dosia, lmbt, starix and ex- mouz roster play a lot.
2012-06-11 05:42:13
Dota 2 4sho
2012-06-11 05:59:55
ive played both games and i really think LoL gives the excitement you need, i think dota is just very bland and not unique. the big problem with LoL is you get a lot of trolls but when you get real players on both sides in a competitive game it can be a lot of fun and you and your friends will agree on playing 1 more game after those close games. i also like the diversity of the champs in LoL the way you can make combo's with you're team champs it really can make things interesting but i would try both out i have a lot of friends who play both games
2012-06-11 06:00:44
the way of picking your heros is way more interesting in dota, since it not has a straight meta game as LoL does...

dota not unique? bitch please u think u never played an arts game before LoL..
2012-06-11 07:36:05
heyy im just talking from personal experience.. i enjoyed both games but prefer LoL mainly because i got more into the competitive scene cuz its pretty big
2012-06-11 08:10:09
i played dota like 6 years, great game

now i play LoL and is more funny than dota, more balanced, so. for me.. LoL>dota

but still a great game (dota)
2012-06-11 08:32:56
Played LoL last year before I got dota2 and it was okay. Got my dota2 key and never touched LoL again. Dota2 is just more entertaining to play and watch. Once dota2 will be released it will overtake LoL.
2012-06-11 11:22:54
ez answer: dota
2012-06-11 14:28:50
heroes of newerth !!!
2012-06-11 15:58:22
Playing dota for 7 years,+ dota 2 now and LoL for 2.You still cant compare dota2 and lol ,because dota 2 is still beta,but for me dota 2 needs a bit more of "skills" if i can say that,also better graphic,and u need to be more tactical wise to success.But still lol have some nice things like brushes,runes,etc... All in all ,Dota 2 for me.
2012-06-11 16:11:16
Dota 2 is much more immersive and therefore, much more fulfilling.
2012-06-11 16:17:35
LoL is okay for casual gaming with friends but it's a horrible game for competetive gaming.
No denying (creeps/towers/players), no gold loss on death, small map, very few items with on-use abilities, every player has access to a blink, free teleport to base, no courier, no creep pulling, no creep stacking, no forest with fog to juke players in, horrible tower AI, rax respawn, etc. The list goes on.
Another thing I don't like about LoL is that the set-up 1 top, 1 mid, 2 bot, 1 jungle is pretty much set in stone, whereas in DotA you can have tri-lanes, dual mid, etc.

So for casual gaming i think they're about equally good but dota is far better for more serious play.
2012-06-11 16:23:29
+1
finally someone pointing all the LoL fails.
2012-06-12 16:51:10
+10ducentillion
2012-06-12 17:52:06
played both.

In Dota you have to master many more things, which won't show in LoL.

I prefer Dota - more skill needed, more time to master champs, more different ways to play, more exciting, games are intense.
2012-06-11 16:27:10
DotA 2
2012-06-12 10:58:03
CS > SC2 > D3 > BF3 > MW3 > Dota > LoL.
2012-06-12 15:47:29
League Of Legends
2012-06-12 16:16:50
None of them.
2012-06-12 17:13:48
Dota - overrated
2012-06-12 17:58:22
All the new strat games copy DOTA so ofc Dota
2012-06-12 18:17:45
Dota > LoL
In graphic, gameplay, heroes.
2012-06-12 18:39:10
dota
2012-06-12 19:00:36
LoLta
2012-06-12 19:05:59
LolotA

Post edited 2012-06-12 19:20:23
2012-06-12 19:19:52
LoL.i think
2012-06-12 22:26:03
4 me it's dota
2012-06-12 23:58:31

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