Dota2>LoL... WCG WITHOUT LOL.
cya my friends,LoL will die and it will be soon :D WCG WITHOUT LoL but with DOTA2!!! :D YEAAAAAH!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTQRtxL-9_s

go go haters and stuff what u have to say now about dota2 sucks?
(512 replies)
Created 2012-07-12 23:05 by: Nzr0
nice
2012-07-12 23:07:04
WCG ? I laughed
2012-07-13 15:56:45
Sorry to reply you. But to all haters out there who got buttraped in LoL.

LoL won't be on WCG you know why? I'll give you a clue... fnatic didn't attended WCG because they had one dane. ;) If you haven't guessed at this point, you're a blind hater and I'll clear it for you:

WCG doesn't allow teams with mixed nationalities. No go see LoL competitive scene. A WCG only with some NA teams?? Think twice before posting dumb shit.

What would be the point in having LoL has an official game with so less teams? To be a fail like CS was last year? Without fnatic, mousesports, etc.?
2012-07-13 22:55:56
By the way, if LoL is so eaaaasy like you say, why aren't you guys going to DreamHack and other tournaments with other teams and fuckin win all that money? Maybe you don't want to win money I think. :s
2012-07-13 22:57:55
Because some people don't prefer to play stupid and easy games just for money.
2012-07-15 00:13:10
Tell that shit to 1.6 teams. lol
2012-07-15 00:23:38
It's the hardest team fps game out there.
2012-07-15 00:33:42
Yes.
2012-07-15 00:57:30
Same for DotA2 :/.
2012-07-14 21:23:33
by: RayX
#2
GOGOGOO DotA2!!
2012-07-12 23:08:07
hell yeah
2012-07-12 23:08:09
I hate both .. but good news anyway :D
2012-07-12 23:08:58
+1
2012-07-13 14:28:22
+2:)
2012-07-14 09:37:46
+1
2012-07-14 22:18:24
by: cosho
#5
wcg is a fking shit joke of an event so what?
2012-07-12 23:09:17
umad? Tons of Damage.
2012-07-12 23:13:29
XD TONS OF DAMAGE :D:D:D
2012-07-12 23:33:25
Rahim FTW :D
2012-07-12 23:34:35
TONS OF DAMAGE = Phreak
2012-07-13 15:57:26

Ocelote laughted http://s7.directupload.net/images/110628/tis4k7wt...
lol :DDD

Post edited 2012-07-16 07:33:01
2012-07-16 07:32:45
USA is a residance of LoL, no wonder why u'r mad :P
2012-07-13 10:10:08
by: sMB-
#6
Someone is mad about their game dying....
2012-07-12 23:10:00
by: RayX
#12
LoL is dying too
2012-07-12 23:17:44
:D:D::D:D n1 joke m8, LoL is number one game in world right now, after half year realase of dota2 free, we will see wich game will die wich no, even if LoL loses 30% gamers(fuuucking highly doubt it) she will still be number one game in the world, sory to dissapoint you guys :)
2012-07-13 02:20:42
LOOOOOOOOOL XDDDDD
2012-07-13 16:42:04
u mad LoL player?
2012-07-13 17:38:14
LoL player? :D well i played that game for 1.5month and for now i did not play for 2months(actualy i did not play any game almoust) so well its hard to say im lol player or not, but probably more yes than no.
2012-07-13 17:41:30
http://www.prweb.com/releases/prwebdfc/xfire/prweb..

lol above wow, minecraft, hon, sc2 etc.
2012-07-14 17:31:02
who uses xfire anyways?
2012-07-14 20:12:46
Best part: she will still be number one game in the world, sory to dissapoint you guys :)

Great job mate. You can't stand a fact that lol got taken out from WCG :D
2012-07-13 17:52:52
WCG? lol i did even not read this article about wcg :D only now, haha, well WCG last 2-3years is peace of shit, far from best event in the year right now, so realy who cares..
2012-07-13 17:59:27
Haha, you are retarded.
2012-07-13 11:31:02
Well, I wanted yesterday to play lol, I logged in and the site client told me: too many login atempts, you were placed 100000 (~) in the queue. And this only on EAST & NORDIC region.
2012-07-13 16:24:49
CS is not dying !
2012-07-12 23:35:13
yes, you was tunisian from FRC server:D
2012-07-13 01:01:19
what ? FRC=fnaticRC server ????
2012-07-13 13:46:46
YES
2012-07-13 13:48:20
So what ? Yesterday I sucked cuz I had so much lag .. :(
2012-07-13 13:52:48
:o_-
2012-07-12 23:10:16
lol is fucking bad copy of dota,shit heroes shit video quality
1.dota
2.-
3.-
4.-
5.-
10.lol
2012-07-12 23:10:20
true story .D
2012-07-12 23:15:31
+1
2012-07-13 00:39:02
+1
2012-07-13 01:57:40
1.dota
2.
3.
4.
5.
10.all the games for unskilled boys
20.lol
2012-07-13 06:15:41
lemme fix that for ya
1. sc
2. quake
3. cs1.6
10. dota
11. lol
12. tetris
2012-07-13 09:56:20
no way... tetris is harder then LoL.... you need to think 24/7
2012-07-13 11:21:55
+1
2012-07-13 15:50:28
lemme fix that for ya
1. cs 1.6
2. sc
3. quake
10. dota
11. tetris
12. lol
2012-07-13 13:22:37
+1
2012-07-13 16:40:26
actually quake is harder in terms of individual skill then 1.6
2012-07-13 17:29:03
i was judging the games overall not in terms of individual skill.
although i think its harder to master cs than quake. or equally hard, at least.
2012-07-13 17:33:41
well quake is more individual skill then team play... so i think it is kinda hard to judge overall if 1 game doesnt have it
2012-07-13 17:35:39
+10
2012-07-14 14:26:51
LET ME FIX FOR YA! FOR REAL!
1. cs 1.6
2. CS:Source
3. LoL
4. SC
5. Quake
6. who cares
2012-07-13 20:50:24
css? what a joke.
2012-07-14 07:13:46
any cs version is best. yes even source is not bad, maybe second place is not wher to place it but in top5 fo sho

Post edited 2012-07-14 09:57:41
2012-07-14 09:57:21
and lol on the third place? man, we are done here.
2012-07-14 13:49:09
+1
2012-07-13 08:04:28
HAHAHAH i play both games, and both are grate!
2012-07-12 23:16:27
+1
2012-07-13 16:31:03
right decision, cya casual game :) <3 wcg
2012-07-12 23:31:28
meh, lol is 3x times more played than dota2, bye.
2012-07-12 23:35:26
yeah bye, gtfo.
2012-07-13 01:57:57
u mad bro?
2012-07-13 02:07:31
but , you just said bye !
2012-07-13 02:52:22
so? i came back to pick something
2012-07-13 03:35:01
your brain ?
2012-07-13 12:26:24
XDDD he's completly retarded.
2012-07-13 14:52:13
Im completely retarded because i have a different opinion from you and im raping you in our argument? Wow dude, sounds like someone's butthurt.
2012-07-13 15:23:12
Raping me with your arguments ?Let's remind you what u said "meh, lol is 3x times more played than dota2, bye." epic argument bro.
2012-07-13 16:41:19
that kid doesnt know what means "argument"
2012-07-13 17:36:39
You are 3 years younger than me and call me a kid? rofl, i also owned you so i dont see the point? Go back to your shitty cod4 and leave hltv alone. You're a nerd.
2012-07-13 17:51:03
wtf dude? are u menatly disabled or what? everyone here hates you.... no1 agrees with you.... you dumbshit that cant even say a good argument why LoL is better then Dota2.

2012-07-13 18:41:50
Everyone hates me? Ahahaha, fill my carebox with that mate, its a sign that people actually care about ir while i dont xD No one agrees with me ? LOL #279 $ #253 and i wont even need to search for more.

kid, before you accuse someone of doing something you must be sure you havent done the same.. i havent seen you giving me a good argumnt why dota 2 is better either. LoL is more developed, it has more players, etc etc and because dota 2 is very hard to learn compared to LoL will make it fail, because no one likes to play games that are hard to learn. Look at Arma 2. Just the controls were hard to handle and look who plays it: No one lol.
2012-07-13 19:09:28
actually dota2 isnt hard to learn,it is hard to master... but LoL is much easier to learn and to master... if you arent dumb and what to be good at dota2 you can learn the basics in less then a week by reading guides,watching guides,watchings replays.... in LoL you just need to play a tutorial,watch someone play max 2 times... vuala you are a pro that with luck can get into 2k ELO
2012-07-13 19:23:05
LOOOL

"in LoL you just need to play a tutorial,watch someone play max 2 times... vuala you are a pro that with luck can get into 2k ELO"

Im sorry, but i cant aswer this kind of retardeness LOOOOL, JUST LMAO xDDD
2012-07-13 20:35:48
win first 10 games,then free elo if you play irelia or graves or cassio or janna.... easy as that.
2012-07-13 20:37:03
yeah man, but you played 1500 games, you must be 2500 elo right now no? =/ how much is your elo btw? ahaha
2012-07-13 21:46:37
2 accounts,1 2k elo... another 1.6k
2012-07-13 21:58:14
names please, ill check those myself.
2012-07-13 21:59:48
Wtf? That was my first sentence you idiot, after that you aswered me and you were raped by my posts, that first comment was not even for you LOLOLOL
2012-07-13 17:49:46
I actually do something constructive and use arguments, unlike you who shows up in the middle of an argument and use your dumb insults to look cool. ;)
2012-07-13 15:22:30
you were a source player,not surprised that you play LoL and think that it sa good a game :P
2012-07-13 16:42:54
finally!!! a portuguese dude that knows what he says!
BRAVOOOOOOO!
2012-07-13 17:37:14
So if i am a source player? rofl. You know, there is also 1.6 players that play LoL and say it is a good game, so i kinda dont see your point? LOL I liek both 1.6 and source so ;).
2012-07-13 18:07:28
im sorry, did i insult you ?
2012-07-13 17:20:04
I could ask you the same thing.
2012-07-13 18:07:57
you dont make any sense, not that you did at that matter. end of discussion, bye.
2012-07-13 19:13:45
Yeah man, run away ;) I havent insult you either so i dont see why you get all offended =(
2012-07-13 20:34:47
your retardness drove me away :(
2012-07-13 20:44:23
My retardeness? rofl, all you did was try to insult me, how poor is that?
2012-07-13 21:44:52
u mad bro?
2012-07-13 17:40:15
No xD what about you? :D
2012-07-13 18:08:19
HAHHA +1
2012-07-13 17:39:52
You look so dumb with this +1 thing :D If you have something to say, please, dont be afraid and tell it to me =)
2012-07-13 18:09:10
ye maybe cuz dota2 is in beta ? and btw, lol is 3x times shittier than dota2 at gameplay, way too easy game that lol shit.
2012-07-13 02:31:15
oh yeah, i always forget how random noobs like you say lol is easy and then i dont see you on professional teams, etc
2012-07-13 03:35:47
fact is players like me don't give a fuck on becoming 'pro' on that shitty game, keep your tryndamere and have fun
2012-07-13 05:04:33
yeah, ill see you become a dota 2 professional player right? LOLOL. you make me laugh dude, i bet you never tried lol ;) and btw, tryndamere is not even used in ranked games lololol he always gets banned
2012-07-13 06:31:07
Everybody agrees to say that LoL is much more easier and got horrible graphism compared to dota 2, a lot of tournaments will choose dota instead of LoL, you will see, because LoL is a failure, only kids play that game, or people who sucks at dota.

Post edited 2012-07-13 14:54:48
2012-07-13 14:54:34
lol, i dont agree actually... the graphics are fine, they look awesome.. arent you the people of 1.6 who say graphics dont matter? OH wait, its a game you guys dont like so you will all bash on it. RIDICULOUS. dota is harder than lol? ahahahah. in my first dota 2 game i made like 3-7, in the second i did something like 14-4 and so on, so, for a lol player i dont see how dota 2 is so much difficult. You just need to adapt to the game.
2012-07-13 15:15:04
LoL graphics are fine?2d toons loloolol
2012-07-13 16:43:26
Shall we speak about 1.6 graphics? I dont understand, when you defend 1.6: The graphics dont matter, its the gameplay! When its a game you dont like: The graphics suck, etc etc. You make no sense boy.
2012-07-13 17:52:30
You are talking about two different games... FPS and RTS, OKAY BRO.
2012-07-14 11:34:10
for our event in Shanghai two seasons ago it was Intel that asked us to run a local Chinese DotA tournament. We all know DotA is a game made on a 2002 engine. Carmac
2012-07-14 14:18:13
So? Oh right, i forgot how you always get excuses to defend your beloved 1.6 ahaha. Like i said before, LoL's graphics can be compared to the first dota. So, will you tell me that dota has bad graphics? :)
2012-07-14 15:53:25
"Oh right, i forgot how you always get excuses to defend your beloved 1.6 ahaha." - wtf man? Are you mad or what? Relax a little bit. Dota2 > LoL > Dota1
2012-07-14 17:36:38
Mad ? Why should i be mad? proving fanboys wrong is fun ;)

"Dota2 > LoL > Dota1"

Thats your opinion which no one except for you care lol.
2012-07-14 20:10:39
LOL? Then why are you asking such a stupid questions? Damn dude, sell your computer please.
2012-07-14 20:48:59
You didnt even aswer my question. Will you say dota 1 has bad graphics?
2012-07-14 21:01:52
As for me, dota1 has better graphics than lol, sorry :(*
2012-07-14 21:32:30
You still havent aswered my question.
2012-07-14 22:23:30
"the graphics are fine, they look awesome" lol so are they fine or awesome ?
LoL : http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/l/e/league-of..
Dota 2 : http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/wp-content/upload..
http://just-3d.com/images/articles-pics/17_1327800..

Also, it's not that they suck, because, they don't, but it's look like a cartoon, kid game, this is why I feel these graphics aren't adapted to an esport game. If only the gameplay was better I would say that graphics then doesn't matter, but dota 2 gameplay is still better by far.

Also the score doesn't mean anything, it's a beta so you definetly played with noobs who were testing the game because the match making is made by your level at the game, as it was your first game, you obviously played against low players. It actually proves that you suck at MOBA to say that. "how dota 2 is so much difficult" Man you just played the game vs noobs, you don't even know all the heroes and their specificities, and you think you already rock at dota 2 ?Tell me how good you are at being feeded and carry the game vs noobs LOL.

Post edited 2012-07-13 16:55:10
2012-07-13 16:50:46
So, just because the graphics are child looking you dont like the game? The graphics could be compared to the first dota dude. It depends on most people. On my opinion i dont really care, i enjoy both games but since LoL has a way bigger community and needs WAY more tactics atm, i play LoL.

I never said i rocked at dota, i played like 30 matches and in all of them i havent found that much good players.. I suck at MOBA games because i say dota 2 is easy? Well dude, i play MOBA games for like 6 years now since the first dota, and if you say i suck who am i to disagree? :DD
2012-07-13 17:57:44
dude i hope you realize you are talking about a game who became available 2 years or more ago ( league of legends ) and dota2 ( still in beta ). Seems legit and btw, dota2 needs WAY more tactics ATM than LoL in it's entire existence.
2012-07-13 22:45:08
so? there was dota before dota 2 you know? Not really, dota 2 atm is way more of a individual game, LoL needs way more tactics. Im sure you never played LoL, while i played both games mate and LoL is WAY better!

Post edited 2012-07-13 23:12:59
2012-07-13 23:12:50
you'r sure i never played Lol. Then you sir need to remain on lol cuz we dont need retards like you on our community. hf
2012-07-13 23:44:32
Wow, thats such a good reason mate.. well, i understand you but i also dont want to join the gypsies community, thank you :)
2012-07-13 23:50:57
gogogogo lol kids grow up :P
2012-07-13 23:51:44
Sorry mate ;(
2012-07-14 01:46:42
"So, just because the graphics are child looking you dont like the game?" re-read my post.
"I never said i rocked at dota, i played like 30 matches and in all of them i havent found that much good players.." I have +200 games played, and I still face noob opponents even if I have a postiv ratio, it's not the players who make the game harder, but all the mechanics, farming and stuff.

"I suck at MOBA games because i say dota 2 is easy?" I said that because of your argument, I don't think that you suck, I don't really know, but judging on the fact that you won a couple of games, isn't enough to judge the difficulty of the game.

"Well dude, i play MOBA games for like 6 years now since the first dota" I have never seen someone who started playing dota, switching to LoL and saying that LoL>dota but I've seen the opposite.

Post edited 2012-07-14 01:44:08
2012-07-14 01:43:55
Well lol, the graphics dont define the esports scene or else you wouldnt be playing cs 1.6 till today. LoL's graphics are perfectly fine, some people like them others dont, who cares, in a MOBA game graphics dont count shit.

In around those 30 matches ive played i didnt find it hard to understand, but maybe thats just me because i already had MOBA experience, but for other gamers, it will be hard to understand unlike in LoL is easy to learn but it takes skill to master the game and be decent at tactics level.

lol, but thats what you do to LoL. You win a couple of games and you say the game is easy when its not. If you play experienced players with more than 1800 elo you will understand how hard the game is.

You havent? lol well you dont know everyone in the world so im pretty sure there are more people that prefer LoL to dota 2 that had dota experience before.

Post edited 2012-07-14 01:53:29
2012-07-14 01:53:02
"im pretty sure there are more people that prefer LoL to dota 2 that had dota experience before."

You don't know that either :D
2012-07-14 15:44:29
How do i not know that? LOL Theres around 20 million people that play LoL, how can you say i am the only guy in those 20 million that thinks like this? LOL Think please. 20 million people is a number you cant even imagine ;)
2012-07-14 15:57:50
20 million people may not be people who had experienced dota, that's what I meant.
2012-07-14 19:57:01
Yeah but some of them experienced it and im sure some of those prefer LoL to dota 2.
2012-07-14 20:11:43
i have never ever seen a tryndamere ban or pick on ranked ever
2012-07-13 23:51:36
+1.
2012-07-14 00:03:54
what's the problem with that tryndamere ? i just dont get it :| , explain me please ? :p
2012-07-16 09:03:08
well tryndamere is powerfull hero in low level games because people dont know to counter him but on high level games hes almost useless
2012-07-16 14:06:00
"keep your tryndamere"
Thank you for reminding me how bad LoL haters actually are, you know Tryndamere is never played in tournaments, ever. It's just too easy to counter, and you obviously were raped by some noob in a normal game with tryndamere now you must be butthurt.
2012-07-13 14:59:07
actually i was the one raping with tryndamere, btw i got a lv 27 league of legends account just to prove loltards like you that i actually played the game a lot, played it even with high skilled ppl. and it still sucks.
2012-07-13 16:58:50
Dont want to hurt everybody but tbh, lv 27 account is really low. You cant play with good player with that sort of account.
2012-07-13 17:05:19
had friends on lv 30 who always invited me ( always playing with 4 lv 30, i know lower levels sux ) :)
2012-07-13 17:09:20
LOWER LEVELS ?@H@HH@H@ this game is so trash , maybe some players that have brain dont spend 1002301031023012 days to get level 1021020121 to play with better people in a completely retarded game
2012-07-13 17:43:42
Yeah, you definitly seems to be a brained person..

League of legends is more a casual game, that why graphism are like cartoon (but it's definitly not bad graphism) and the game seems more easy than dota. The reality is than whatever the game you play, (in this case lol/dota/dota2) it's not because the game is more casual that the high level is more easy, you cant beat a pro-LoL team, because yes, they are "pro."
And yeah tryndamere is OP, OP only VS pll who dont know how to play against (like new player, or low IG level player.)
2012-07-13 18:18:01
Wtf, by high skilled ppl u mean lvl 30s?

When you play with +2k elo talk to me.

You can learn how to use your spells right very quickly and easily but don't come with a lvl 27 account and call LoL easy cuz u never played with 1 single good player.
2012-07-13 21:08:42
oh so you even know my past matches right ? you must be the new nostradamus. Played some games with some decent teams so yeah the gameplay sux and it's way too easy.
2012-07-13 22:43:15
Something else to say? oh wait, you must agree with him, shame most of you are butthurt fanboys who got raped in the first level of LoL AHAHA
2012-07-14 15:51:23
hummm... lol wasnt nothing when it was in beta.... dota2 is in beta and already is played in the tournaments.

good luck my friend,keep enjoying ur shitty game where you dont even need strategy,just farm farm farm.
2012-07-13 07:12:28
Yeah, maybe because there was another DotA before DotA 2? League of Legends is a lot better then DotA.
2012-07-13 13:50:15
not at all :)
2012-07-13 13:56:16
OK then. Tell me 3 reasons why DotA is better than LoL.
2012-07-13 14:41:51
dota is more complex , dota is more competitive , dota has better visual design and more . . .simple :)
2012-07-13 15:02:29
owned him hard =D
2012-07-13 17:44:30
If you ask me LoL has a lot better gameplay than DotA, but if you say so then let's just say that DotA > LoL.
2012-07-14 00:03:22
LOOOL That comment only shows you never tried lol. You're ridiculous dude. LoL has a 5 million prize pool and has more than 20 million people playing daily ,that sounds like OWNAGE? AHAHA. In LoL you need much more teamplay than dota 2, believe me, i have played both games ;)
2012-07-13 15:17:19
"in LoL you need much more teamplay than dota 2" = bullshit

all team games requires great teamplay otherwise i think the thing don't work :)
2012-07-13 16:23:54
But LoL atm needs much more teamplay since the game is way more developed than dota 2.
2012-07-13 17:58:23
played +1.5k games... now i have dota2 and i enjoy it more.

and looks like you didnt even play dota2... i played maybe opened and played a game and thats it... go play at least mid skill... i wont even talk about pre invite...

teams like na'vi have their teamplay at maxium... LoL is more individual skill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vIBAw_BwN0

did you even know that at night you have less vision of map then at day?
2012-07-13 17:26:29
Ahahahah, that post made laugh, seriously dude.

Oh right, i forgot how you are such a fake person that attacks everyone on their back, first you had the portuguese community and Portugal itself and now you say bullshit about LoL ahah, such a lovely person you are ukranian.

I did play dota 2, actually, i believe i have far more experience than you in any MOBA game since i play dota 1 since 2006/2007.

So, you bring up a video of teamplay in dota 2 ? rofl seriously? ill tell you a secret, but dont tell anyone, ok? In LoL, there is also teamplay and btw, there videos like these on youtube too :S

You understand how stupid you were in that post? I could also post a million videos of LoL's teamplay here and you wouldnt give a shit about it. LoL has way more time than dota 2 and atm is far more developed in terms of tactics and teamplay.
2012-07-13 18:03:51
ok just say a simple thing.... range of view of tower at night and at day.
2012-07-13 18:39:55
Yes, so what ? lol
2012-07-13 19:04:40
so stfu and gtfo from here... by saying that you played dota and dont know the basics... thats another proof that you are just like a rag. dont say shit if you dont even know about what are you talking...
2012-07-13 20:38:48
wtffffffffffff when did i said i didnt know the basics you idiot? LOL
2012-07-13 21:45:39
actually lol isnt more developed in terms of tactics and teamplay then dota2 because dota2 is a copy of dota and you know dota is like for a decade here
2012-07-13 23:55:25
Different players, etc. Some dota 2 players never played dota 1
2012-07-14 00:35:04
well most of people that play dota2 have played dota 1
2012-07-14 00:50:27
And how you know that? =)
2012-07-14 01:23:36
experience
2012-07-14 01:49:56
Oh yes, i forgot how you know every single person that plays dota2.
2012-07-14 01:54:32
most of people i have played with they were veterans who had played dota 1 , just accept that dota 2 needs more skill and is way more complex then lol is now .
2012-07-14 02:18:42
Why would i accept a thing i dont agree with? Neither do I and neither do other 25 million people.
2012-07-14 02:29:29
then its 24.999.999 people
2012-07-14 02:39:08
LOL, ok mate. you're delusional
2012-07-14 04:04:09
Actualy 7x but whatever :P
2012-07-13 20:51:14
dota > dota2 and lol > dota2
2012-07-12 23:36:22
dota=dota2 in gameplay -.-
dota2>dota in graphics...
i cant see ur point.
2012-07-13 07:13:02
i dont know if dota 2 > lol but for sure dota 2 community > lol community
2012-07-13 00:04:42
why do u guys hate on Lol? its a great game with a huge community..
2012-07-13 00:09:55
its too easy to learn. people like more cchallenging games in esport like sc2 and dota, cs 1.6 etc.

for dota players LoL is like cs source for 1.6 players ;)
2012-07-13 00:54:26
Lol isnt easy... maybe yes but u need skills, is not simply "Oh Q,W,E,R CLICKCLICKCLICKCLICK... u need strategies, partners, rols to do, stop saying "Lol TOO EASY FOR DOTA PLAYERS", dota2 is really poor.
2012-07-13 00:59:25
+1
2012-07-13 01:02:22
i played lol for 1 year, after dota 1 and i found it very easy compared to dota :)
2012-07-13 01:21:31
Well, why not just go there and take #1 spot? Easy shit, innit?
2012-07-13 04:53:38
actually a lot of the top dota1 players have xD

but then they moved onto a game with a future, dota2 :D
2012-07-13 05:00:06
Well, my point was that only five players can take the #1 spot. 15 for the top 3. The rest of the scrubs can shout about balance and shittiness for all they like, but no-one gives a damn about them.
2012-07-13 05:07:03
well the thing is that in fact they are the players that keep the game running :)
2012-07-13 16:44:27
learn to argue. it doesnt mean that if a game is easy you can do #1. cs source is easy aswell and you will be never pro at source ;)

also i play maybe 1-2 hours a week cause my hardcore gaming time was a few years back. im studying nowdays
2012-07-13 12:00:24
+1 LoL is too easy :S, i played two times and i pwned all stupid n00bs there, and graphics seems like for childrens of 3 years old, dota2 is better than it.
2012-07-13 13:12:23
You played 2 times? Against lvl 1 people? No shit it was easy, get LvL 30, go 2500 elo and then you can say LoL is easy :)
2012-07-16 14:49:49
Stupid MMORMG/RTS game , and i was level 1 and others were higher level than me.
First, play dota and after of that say something about LoL or dota.
LoL Really really sucks.
2012-07-18 12:36:01
Yes, I believe you 100%
2012-07-22 01:01:35
dota 2 is poor ?OMG better play LoL, sure...
2012-07-13 01:58:54
strategy? in lol you just need to farm
i will say simple facts that in dota2 you have day and night,and at night u have less vision=time to gank.
other simple fact that makes dota2 better is that you can last hit the tower for your enemy dont get the money.... and there is many more things that make dota2 much more enjoyable.
2012-07-13 07:15:17
+1 agree xD, in dota also you need individual skill not only strategy. in LoL you have more advantage than others if you plays more time like MMORPG's -.-
2012-07-13 13:15:58
U win
2012-07-13 01:52:41
and cs source is very easy to learn?! now i realy think that LoL is good game, if we compare EVEN cs 1.6 to source, because source aswell need to have big skills to do big things(i know what im talking about 10years 1.6 player 1year cs:source) so it means same in LoL, so it means non sense to again jugde game witch is most popular game in the world! Hater gonna hate
2012-07-13 04:18:02
we are talking about 1.6 players comming to source.... and source is much easier to learn then 1.6....
if you disagree then gtfo from here.
2012-07-13 07:16:00
+1, when these kids will learn.. :D they always have to defend their easy game, such as css or cod players :D newfags
2012-07-13 12:01:37
kinda true but cod4 promod isnt a easy game :D
2012-07-13 12:23:47
yes ure right, it was one of my favorite shooters^^ but im talking bout the mw2 and mw3 kids :D
2012-07-13 12:30:14
Wher you are talking about 1.6 players are going to source MR GTFO?! We are talking about game like 1.6 - CSS and LoL - DOTA2, not about players wich going to source you fag.

Post edited 2012-07-13 14:52:40
2012-07-13 14:52:01
i hope 62,549,350 people now hate WCG because of their decision :D + us from CS scene =)
2012-07-13 00:56:48
no cs, no lol = shit event.
2012-07-13 01:20:40
wcg organizers are really insane.
2012-07-13 01:21:34
LoL will die because wcg pick dota2? lol, you really dont know huge is LoL, how many tournaments we have... And wcg is not that huge anymore

Post edited 2012-07-13 01:23:11
2012-07-13 01:22:34
please number 10 tournament :]
2012-07-13 01:23:18
Lol has every weekend online tournaments with 1000/3000e, like sk torphy, tsm tournament and many others, we got ipl, 4pl, iem, mlg, season 2, The Heartowin Cup, ggChronicle, Vengeance Cup series, E-STARS, gamescom and many others (dont know all of them). Korea has their own championship and some Na and european teams play there too and the TV from korea broadcasts the championship. Even the qualifiers for season2 will have more money than the biggest tournaments for 1.6. Afer all this LoL has small tournamets too every single week.

Post edited 2012-07-13 01:49:31
2012-07-13 01:47:05
aham, can you give me website for LoL as Hltv.org for CS1.6? and for Dota also
2012-07-13 01:49:11
nope, hltv is unique.
2012-07-13 01:50:13
and than, from where you know that some tournament is announced, or match?
2012-07-13 01:50:50
www.leagueoflegends.com , http://www.absolutelegends.eu/ , or tsm site, clg site...


Well, see this

http://www.absolutelegends.net/lol-event-calendar

Post edited 2012-07-13 01:55:13
2012-07-13 01:52:27
you killed him LOL
2012-07-13 06:31:46
well u gave 4 sites.... the 1st is the official of game but it isnt like hltv... no interviews,no highlights...
rest of sites,i just entered in forum thing... and saw that forum is poor as fuck.

2012-07-13 07:19:51
Haha, you're so frustrated that it makes me laugh. For now, Lol is probably bigger than dota2, deal with it and stop this hate.
2012-07-13 10:32:13
im happy that lol is bigger than dota 2, i dont want these unintelligent kids in my dota :D
2012-07-13 12:04:01
lol is playin, 5on5, or 1on1?
2012-07-13 13:19:17
5on5 of course
2012-07-13 14:15:02
+1337, but in some random matchs, the level of players is too low. T_T
2012-07-18 12:37:59
well you still have reddit.com/r/LeagueOfLegends there are tournament annoucments and interviews and good plays :)
2012-07-13 18:17:28
what does that have to do? lol has a prizepool of 5 millions euros this season and they will probably increase it to 7 or 10 in the next one
2012-07-13 02:09:21
gratz, just as WoW. promotion
2012-07-13 12:04:40
Now lets see when did Wow start.. OH WAIT =/

And after that lets check dota2's shitty prizepool LOLOL
2012-07-13 15:21:16
now lets sees cs shitty prizepool, still a good game. and dota has tournaments with millions of dollars just like lol does?

portuguese kids are so stupid on hltv.org -_- even indians are more intelligent :D and their cs edits hahaha

for the age of 18 ure pretty unintelligent, thought u might be max. 14 sad story.

keep stay in your hello kitty game :) u wont survive dota anyways
2012-07-13 15:25:37
Ahahah girl, you seem a bit mad, just saying.. I didnt insult you and all you did was try to attack me :D

Lets see what i care about some stupid random girl on the internet who doesnt know me at all: Oh yeah, i care ZERO about it xD.

No it doesnt, dota 2 had a 1million tournament, then it had 0 lololol. LoL has 1k tournaments every week and will have a 2 million tournament this year. Seems dota 2 is getting behind :SSSS

Im stupid because i have a different opinion from you? Ffs, you people make me sick, you especially, dumb girl who always thinks she is right.. And btw, that wall of text you wrote? Didnt read LOLOLOL

PS: fix dat face girl!
2012-07-13 15:31:33
there are dota 2 tournament and ladder games every day, like 10 matches every fucking day. dont know why u say thay had 0 tournaments oO ?!

i know that im right cause i point facts. but u are obviusly even too lazy to read my text, thats why u play lol aswell. cause ure lazy :P i just cant stand stupid kids sry, too funny to troll them and hltv has a lot of them :S

cant fix my face sry, i was born this ugly

2012-07-13 16:06:44
10 matches a day? Wow.. LoL has about 100 ? LOOL dota 2 is shit in competitive compared to LoL atm ;)

you were? DAMNNN i thought you had fell or something LOLOLOL
2012-07-13 17:48:46
U are delusional if u think lol will beat dota 2,dota is sttill in beta and most ppl dont have keys to play,when the game gets released say goodbye to lol and hon,except if u like to play with 14 yo,or even worse u are one of them
2012-07-14 00:04:57
How are you so sure? Dota 2 wont do anything to LoL... LoL will continue to grow and it will expand even more to asia and the americas.. dota 2 has no chance of success in europe, only in asia.. ahah, why am i a 14 y old? i just aswered her the same way she did. she insulted portuguese people. would you like if i made fun of greek people too? and no, im not 14 years old, but i really dont care about what some nerds on hltv say (you being one of them :D )
2012-07-14 00:38:03
sorry, but LoL is here in South America, and all the players that i've seen playing LoL are Childrens of 14 years old, and newbies Dota players, and them never played well in dota, because they don't know how to play it.
2012-07-18 12:46:21
What does that have to do? Currently the less experienced regions are SA and asia so..
2012-07-18 17:07:27
.....
2012-07-18 17:44:49
its 3million
2012-07-13 16:40:32
http://www.joindota.com/en/start

http://www.gosugamers.net/

Post edited 2012-07-13 12:07:18
2012-07-13 12:06:56
thanks lalle =)
2012-07-13 12:36:56
no problem, never heard of those games? im a bit surprised^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6W376wMpdk thats a pretty cool video imo
2012-07-13 14:27:34
wake up my friend,you still cant see the point.
dota2 is in beta and already rocking stealing BIG tournaments from LoL
LoL in Beta? nah never heared.
2012-07-13 07:16:55
And you cant understand that Dota2 is the next Dota ? one of the most famous game in esport ? So yeah ofc ppl heard about Dota2..
2012-07-13 18:25:40
Dota is the original game ,dota deserves the spot,its time for the lol newnies to vanish
2012-07-13 01:55:06
so much win in one post.
2012-07-13 01:59:10
by: BINN
#68
+1
2012-07-13 03:51:58
+1
2012-07-13 07:20:05
Great point.
+1

Post edited 2012-07-13 12:30:56
2012-07-13 12:30:40
+1
2012-07-13 14:58:00
+1
2012-07-13 15:26:30
by your logic we must see aeon of strife in wcg

Post edited 2012-07-14 00:00:26
2012-07-14 00:00:15
no man, you went way too deep xD
2012-07-14 22:15:38
dota players act to LoL like source players act to 1.6.. no need to be jealous
2012-07-13 02:00:02
*like 1.6 players act to source. dota came first my friend :)
2012-07-13 03:19:58
he's saying dota players are jealous with LoL as source players are jealous with 1.6(or at least were)
2012-07-13 04:26:39
why jelous? i dont get it
2012-07-13 12:05:29
dont know, but when someone says something about LoL dota players come from nowhere and attack LoL
2012-07-13 13:40:27
CS is going down
LoL is going up

Face it, that's just how it is
2012-07-13 02:26:50
more like CS 1.6 13 years on top, LoL 2 years and about to die.
2012-07-13 02:58:15
another die hard fanboy.
The game went strong for years but right now It's shit everywhere except europe, LoL is big in europe and NA and is just getting bigger in asia, It's not about to die in anyway!

Players, NOT tournaments but players have over 20k viewers daily.
2012-07-13 03:05:34
dude LoL popularity is because it is a F2P game, not because it is the best game. DotA (2) is the best MOBA and it will surely destroy LoL in the future, FYI it has been announced as a F2P game.

Post edited 2012-07-13 03:45:35
2012-07-13 03:44:12
I would argue with you that dota 2 and LoL are competitors about the best moba game but dota 2 is in beta, there are things that are shit!

You are defending a game that are in beta stage and claiming It's the best game, atleast best MOBA game wich it isnt, both HoN and LoL are better atm, dota 2 have already sort of destroyed HoN thanks to being basicly the same game but alot of HoN players are pre dota 1 players and they just went and rest joined becuase of the flow. But just as a game, not champions, balance etc just pure feel HoN and LoL are better right now, wich is understandable becuase once again dota 2 is in beta stage!

And dota 2 and lol will both be up there becuase they're different sort of mobas, that's why HoN perished, becuase it's the same game as dota 2.

Sorry for the long text but you're just dumb
2012-07-13 04:11:27
lmao, HoN died just cuz of the stupid decitions by S2, it is 10 times the game LoL is. DotA will be much bigger than LoL, in a couple of months you will see.

btw, HoN was 30$ before being F2P, LoL was always F2P so thats why you see lots of casual players watching pro's streams, lol. Also most if them are americans, everyone knows the USA is full of casual gamers that play whatever shit is cool until they start to get raped.

Post edited 2012-07-13 04:33:59
2012-07-13 04:30:28
I doubt it..

There's 32 millions summoners.
Over 4 millions play daily.

There's 5 million dollars in the Season 2 championship

Post edited 2012-07-13 04:35:05
2012-07-13 04:34:00
LoL's 5 million is not on a single tournament, it is in the 100 tournaments that are part of Season 2.

DotA 2 beta had last year a 2 million dollar tournament, this year it will have some more money, ON A SINGLE TOURNAMENT.

2012-07-13 04:37:43
correct me if I'm wrong, dota 2 managed to gather 3.5 millions a whole year to give out in price money.

LoL are close to 10 millions.

Right now LoL is bigger, you can't argue against that -.-

and there's 6 season 2 tournaments wich means close to 850 000 dollars per tournament and then 3 millions in the last main tournament wich is 8 millions and some other non riot owned tournaments like the Gigabyte LAN. wich means close to 10 millions.
2012-07-13 04:42:35
LMAO nope, DotA 2 only has one Valve tournament and that is The International and it gave 2.5 millions last year in a single weekend.

LoL's 5 millions are given in the tournaments that are part of Season 2, I don't know how many they are but they are more than 20 tournaments for sure (LoL gives the 5 millions in a entire year).

DotA 2 is already bigger in price money than LoL and Valve didn't had to play tournaments to host tournaments of DotA 2, like Riot had to do to make LoL popular.


LoL = 5 millions in 1 year (20+ tournaments)
DotA 2 = 2.5+ millions in 1 weekend (1 tournament)

Post edited 2012-07-13 04:57:15
2012-07-13 04:54:06
wow, get your facts right...

There's 5 million in these tournaments, that's Riots own season 2 tournaments! According to my math that's 6 not over 20. so as I said about 850 000 dollars in each tournament.

Mainland China: July 26 - Shanghai, China at China Joy
Europe: August 16 - Cologne, Germany at Gamescom
North America: August 31 - Seattle, United States at PAX Prime
Korea: September 21 - Seoul, Korea at the OGN eSports Stadium
Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macau: September 22 - Taipei, Taiwan at G1
Southeast Asia: September - Singapore at Garena Carnival

And that's qualifying for the "Main" tournament wich will be held in Los Angeles on the October 13th with 3 Million dollars.

Are you serious dude? I just posted all this and still you argue against it and no, Dota 2 is not bigger in price pool obviously.

EDIT: There's 5 million total, 3 million in the last main tournament wich is still bigger than your beloved dota 2 and 2 million dollar in the 6 qualifying tournaments.

Post edited 2012-07-13 04:59:39
2012-07-13 04:57:58
I didn't say I knew about LoL's tournament system, I though all the IGN shit was part of the qualifier.

still, Riot runs most of LoL's tournaments and it all comes to this comparison:

LoL = 5 millions in 1 year (7 tournaments)
DotA 2 = 2.5+ millions in 1 weekend (1 tournament)
2012-07-13 05:05:09
If you don't know the tournament system don't say stuff like
"LoL's 5 millions are given in the tournaments that are part of Season 2, I don't know how many they are but they are more than 20 tournaments for sure"

As I said earlier, It's 2 different, both games can be alive. But I havent seen dota 2 have over 2 million viewers.

I'm done with this now, cya nad gl with your beloved game
2012-07-13 05:07:50
I agree with you. You cant compare Dota 2 events to a LoL events. Dota 2 had only 1! tournament per year. Thats not worth to compare. That only shows that game RIGHT now isnt worth more than 1 tournament per year and thats why LoL is bigger atm.
2012-07-13 08:03:14
DotA 2 had 1.6million dollar tourmanent because Valve had to advertise it and DotA needed something like that against LoL.
Valve won't do this again.
2012-07-14 14:13:08
The International is going to be in Seattle this year, there have been qualifiers and everything and it is expected to be one every single year.

http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/

Post edited 2012-07-14 17:51:13
2012-07-14 17:50:18
in this year same tournament as in last year and also dota2 has many more tournaments... people just need to follow the news and the tournaments instead of saying shit about the game without knowing it.
2012-07-13 08:28:39
about to die? LOL ocelot stream had more viewers today than the DH summer final
2012-07-13 03:37:20
2 words: DotA Two.

I know about the streamers, most of them are watching because they want to learn how to play with certain champions, lol.
2012-07-13 03:45:01
you're are seriously making me laugh IRL
2012-07-13 04:07:40
Ahahahah, you guys make no sense. First you say that its really easy to play LoL and the game is casual and then you say people watch streams to learn how to play? LOL! If it is that easy to play then they dont need those streams...
2012-07-13 04:37:57
I havent said that atleast :)

LoL is much more team oriented than individual skill, It's still not a "retards game" like all the HoN/dota players say
2012-07-13 04:43:32
true.. it takes a lot of team play to be good
2012-07-13 06:29:45
actualy "DotA Two" is not two words.
2012-07-13 18:20:55
go go kid watch someone playing,it is soooooo cooooooool.

anyway want to see LoL and dota2 in 2 years....
2012-07-13 07:21:09
Who are you to call me kid? You are the one who bashes on the same country which you lived in you fake douche. I never watch lol streams but i was in own3d.tv for some reason and he was streaming so i saw like 5 minutes and he had 10k viewers. Btw, i spotted how you got so mad because it had more viewers than 1.6.. Well, lol streams have 100x times more spects than 1.6 and 10000x more spects than shitty cod4 LOLOL
2012-07-13 15:19:52
i actually not a big fan boy of 1.6... i follow the news and stuff but im not going crazy if a game has more spects then 1.6... i dont go crazy if 1.6 competitive scene will die becuase of no tournaments.... i dont know What the fuck you doing on this topic if you dont know a shit about dota.... if you watch the comments most of people agree with me that dota is harder and requires more skill then LoL....
2012-07-13 17:28:20
Im not a big fan of 1.6 either, i just follow the scene and since there is always bullshit topics about 1.6 spects vs source spects i know 1.6 has less viewers than LoL.


I dont know anything about dota ? ahahah, look at my other comments then. Hmm, there is people saying that because they are fans of dota lol, LoL fans will say otherwise (like me). But one thing im sure, since LoL is bigger and has more time than dota 2 it is more developed.
2012-07-13 18:06:29
HAHAHAHHAHA EPIC:D:D:D:
2012-07-13 08:04:12
;D
2012-07-13 08:29:07
haha
2012-07-13 20:28:00
HAHAHA
2012-07-15 21:56:36
LOL 4EVER MAN , NO TROLLING
2012-07-13 02:31:21
I'm cheering for DotA 2 as well, only cuz LoL is for casuals and its gameplay can't be the one of an eSport. I love Riot's management though.
2012-07-13 02:59:18
LoL is the most played game of the wolrd. Surpassing WoW recently.

But what should you expect from an event who has cross fire as game? WCG is going down so bad.
2012-07-13 02:59:54
who says that lol is the most played game in the world? do u know how many illegal copies of dota are around? like whole asia is playing that game, they just didnt buy wc3 :D
2012-07-13 03:21:27
I highly doubt dota has around 10 million illegal copies so they can actually face LoL.
2012-07-13 04:39:02
30 million players in China only. And Dota2 showmatch surpassed LoL viewers record
2012-07-13 13:28:20
You know, madeup stats aint cool anymore =/ Besides, LoL had like 20M players last year so know they must have like 25-30M. And finnaly, show me those amazing viewers records cause i dont remember them LOLOL
2012-07-13 15:24:48
only 100000 ? lol had like 500k in some random matches in the first season. those numbers are lower than the lol ones. FAIL.
2012-07-14 20:08:52
gratz on wasting my time...if 700k + 400k + 200k is 100K then gl in life

Post edited 2012-07-15 13:45:55
2012-07-15 13:42:01
I dont think you have understood me. LoL had 900k viwers in a single stream at DH Winter. There was plenty more streams so, do your maths mate.
2012-07-15 17:07:30
still 1.4 > 900k. And that 900k is a lie. Even according to leagueoflegends official website, biggest stream was around 300k. You can bump numbers, but still not enough.
2012-07-16 06:36:58
da hell brooooo

900k IN A SINGLE STREAM. Plus the other 10000 streaming the tournament.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/60917/Dreamhack-..

cut the crap out.

LoL > dota > dota 2
2012-07-16 07:08:05
sorry but no on garena there arent 30 million its way way less then that (and any other client)
2012-07-14 00:04:03
china dont play on garena lol...and btw old garena had 50+M. Chinese players play on VS. So get your facts straight before you talk about something you dont know.
2012-07-14 16:53:40
send me a link or prove me those facts
2012-07-14 17:18:11
check garena user ID. Starts from million and last ID is around 65 million i think. For sure there are some inactive and double accounts. And i dont have to prove you. Since you and your friend from above are both retards, just google it and check how huge dota is in asia. LoL is joke for dota asian numbers, but you spam with forbes links where it is only EU and USA based.
2012-07-14 18:18:38
i know that dota is really really huge in asia but i think that lol has more numbers then dota 2 and dota1 maybe not combined but seperatly i think yes
2012-07-14 18:34:27
bigger streams, and more players...i think LoL is still behind :)
2012-07-14 20:06:35
sorry but lol has bigger streams
2012-07-14 21:00:42
this was for invitational right?
2012-07-15 13:58:47
random showmatch between america and china
2012-07-15 14:53:55
south america as well. LoL is just more popular cuz they can track their numbers being a F2P game.

Btw, most of the popuilarity of LoL is cuz of NA lack of eSport games, lol. Those countries are now full of casual gamers.
2012-07-13 04:39:47
TRYE

Post edited 2012-07-16 00:55:58
2012-07-16 00:55:49
That's a fact. It was noticed by many e-sports sites recently.
2012-07-16 01:19:30
I got dota2 on steam but can't play it too shitty graphics cus my videocard sucks, but i played dota1 allmost 6 years (maybe even more) It was fairly easy to learn lol cus of previous experience, and it is really great game with great feature.
Some guys (who never played lol) might coplain that it sucks and blah blah blah but here's a real deal
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/07/1..
It's the top 10 most played games
2012-07-13 03:05:25
we dont say it sucks, but it sucks for a competitive game. do u know why lol is the most played game? cause its a game for everyone. boys, girls, young boys and girls cause of the cute hello kitty heros and child grapics, its free to play and easy to learn for casual gamers. thats why a game is successfull or why is cod mw3 so much played? cause 12 year old kids can own at it. same with lol.

dont get me wrong. i play lol and i like to play it with friends, but its a joke in competitive compared to dota or hon.

hon just dont have so many players cause its too hard for most of the people, takes too much time to learn it. same with cs 1.6, people prefer easy games nowdays as cod or lol
2012-07-13 03:25:21
btw forbes is USA centered, they won't say DotA is the most played game cuz the game is not even popular in the USA (it is in asia, south america, oceania, etC). I have been reading Forbes' articles about gaming and it is all about what is hip in the USA, so it is all about Starcraft II and LoL, their job is make USA important so its all about them.

Btw, CS 1.6 would rape any of the other games play hours if that list wasn't about the US, lol. Look at those server tracker websites, sometimes there are 200K+ playing on non steam servers.

PS: Definitely LoL is #1 on EU/US, no doubt. The other games though, something smell funny in there.
2012-07-13 04:50:36
cant really understand those stats.... how can HoN be more popular then starcraft...
2012-07-13 08:26:57
CS 1.6 and Dota > lol hon mw3 carum3d
2012-07-13 03:06:35
by: hmmr
#69
no lol, no cs, wtf? xD
2012-07-13 03:53:59
Second post to shut some dump ppl up!

LoL is the biggest game ever I believe, I played dota as a child and moved to HoN when I heard about it, played it ALOT, hated LoL like everyone else, most of the ppl in my class back then played LoL so I tried it and I got stuck, never really felt like playing HoN again.
This is probably what you feel, you refuse to play LoL and still say it sucks becuase apparently It's easy and the graphic suck etc! The main difference in playing HoN/dota to LoL is the trees and the shadows, big fucking deal!
Imo you need way more teamplay and strategies in LoL than in dota, atleast in the high ranked games.
The graphics arent bad they are made that way, It's supposed to look cartoony, and why is that bad? The only game I would enjoy having high graphics would be in a FPS game, other than that I don't give a shit, just look at WoW, biggest MMO ever, graphic is also cartoony.

Uhm WCG dropped LoL?
http://www.wcg.com/renew/index.asp
It's LoL and other popular titles on the frontpage you dumb fucks!


Post edited 2012-07-13 04:21:18
2012-07-13 04:20:40
DOTA 2 officially confirmed! Also Dota Allstars added as promo title! By this list of the official games consist of DOTA 2, Starcraft 2, Warcraft 3, Cross Fire, FIFA 12. Promo titles are World of Tanks, Counter-Strike: Online and DotA AllStars. (C) WCG 2012.
2012-07-14 21:28:31
I don't like LoL, but WCG is a complete shit this year tbh. I mean LoL is the most played game in the eSports scene nowadays and we know that. So WCG remove LoL and CS too? This makes nonsense for me and LoL isn't dying, for me it's a shitty game and DotA2 is much better but it's a stupid decision to remove two great games from this tournament. Fuck off WCG!
2012-07-13 04:30:19
LoL will always have more players, its an easier game and its super noob-friendly, you don't really need to think much to be able to play in a good level while on Dota2 you have to learn a lot of mechanics and shit to not suck

dota2 is a game for intelligent people while lol is for casuals that want a simple game
2012-07-13 04:55:08
That really depend what you call a "good" level..
Say dota 2 is for intelligent ppl when lol is for casual really make me laugh.
It's not because LoL is a game with casual player than all of the player are casual.
If the "good" level is really easy to play on LoL so go on ! Make a team, you can win your life really easily in this case.
2012-07-13 18:35:55
Riot pay events organizer to not host dota/hon tournaments, thats how they've growth that shitty game

bastards
2012-07-13 05:14:40
LoL is the retarded little brother of Dota 2, just like CS:S to CS.
My two cents.
2012-07-13 05:50:05
+1
2012-07-13 06:25:48
+1
2012-07-13 07:24:43
and even dota 2 has much better graphics
2012-07-13 16:09:59
well we should admit that dota2 will be damn popular cuz it will be free to play :)
2012-07-13 08:30:30
true story :D and SNG WILL DOMINATE THAT SHIT :D Na'Vi!!!!


Post edited 2012-07-13 08:43:14
2012-07-13 08:43:08
dota2 only for 1337, luv this game^^
2012-07-13 08:31:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQhKMR4rbVo
dendi, dendi, wuhu
would you love me now,
dendi :D
2012-07-13 08:56:04
LOL DIES... :D they have big 2 season tournaments with total 5.000.000 prize money...lol has so much lan and online tournaments and still people enjoys this game... so it not dies at all.

AND DOTA ISN"T THAT BIG.
2012-07-13 08:56:19
dota2 is beta my friend and it is getting bigger and bigger.... The International will be also in this year....
1st place 1M...
2012-07-13 09:21:08
well... by this thread u meant that lol isn't attending in WCG, and it means that the game dies... + u say that " go go haters" , but u hating LOL , so it's like... who likes LOL play LOL, who play DOTA2, play DOTA2, and you try to harass lol players? Dota2 will be f2p , but i don't think that much lol players move from lol ( WHICH IS UNPLAYABLE FOR DOTA2 PLAYERS) to dota2.
2012-07-13 09:32:23
cant understand ur comment.... why u say dota isnt that big.... and then i reply to you trying to prove that it is big and getting bigger. and then you come with a story that lol players wont play dota2.... wtf dude?
2012-07-13 09:35:04
if dota2 is getting bigger than that means lol is dying? oh really
I'd like to see lol dying
2012-07-13 10:03:51
its funny how u guys compare dota2 and LoL. dota2 is still in beta phase and got huge amount of spectators. just wait for the game realize and u will see the difference:))
2012-07-13 09:31:04
lol is dying?
2012-07-13 10:02:43
League of Legends 1,292,502,456 players :)
2012-07-13 10:05:28
sorry is that 1billion or million? -.-
2012-07-13 10:51:45
u'r smart one i must admit
2012-07-13 11:30:41
That's not the number of players, but the amount of hours spent by all players in-game in a year.
2012-07-13 11:26:31
i hope SMITE will beat LOL
2012-07-13 10:30:22
It's nowhere close.
2012-07-13 10:39:03
I'm happy about Dota 2 pretty much as when I was for cs 1.6 couple years ago.
2012-07-13 10:41:23
LoL is not dying people.. how can it die with millions of viewers? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha this is ricicolous!

tourneys dont replace old games for new games. they take out those who are not populare and does not neccesairly take in a new game. of course there will be dota2 at every single event but there will also be LoL

are you blind people? read nix0n's interview carmac the boss of IEM
2012-07-13 10:51:09
Truth is LoL is more popular right now than dota2 and you gotta know LoL is 3 or so years old whereas dota2 is not out yet. More people play dota 1 than LoL im sure of that in China etc. Dreamhack Summer Dota 2 grand final had 82k and LoL had 121k. For a game that links the stream on the client vs a game that isnt released yet lmao. Enjoy your time in the spotlight now LoL because soon you will be 2nd best.
2012-07-13 10:56:12
It only failed because Riot Games coudnt find an agreement with WCG.
2012-07-13 11:22:10
Haha you guys are MAD, because LoL is a nice game and CS is dying. If LoL is a bad game why so many players are watching it? When a CS tournament have 10,000 viewers you guys go crazy, but LoL has arround 100,000 viewers on player streams every day. Man, stop saying LoL is bad, its a nice game with lots of potential to become the main e-sports title holder. STOP HATING.
2012-07-13 11:32:32
i dont hate it i just dont like it, cuz of it 10 years old graphics LOL
2012-07-13 11:34:25
The graphics are simple, but what about HoN and Dota2? They are also not extremely good? A game like this doenst need high end graphics.
2012-07-13 11:35:30
lol dota2 got awesome graphics imo + it's still good old dota :) i tried to watch LoL, but i cant, maybe cuz i used to dota
2012-07-13 11:44:16
Why are u playing 1.6 then?
2012-07-16 03:42:08
awesome logic...
2012-07-16 08:14:33
Like Riot cares so much about WCG. In LoL we have more international top teams who can't attend f.e.: SK, fnatic, CLG.eu, AL (idk about TSM or CLG.na). Also as someone said before: Riot couldn't find agreement with WCG org.

My feelings about DotA2? I didn't play it but I think that those two games will be same popular. DotA2 has a big community and it's just beta version.

dota will be f2p? anyone knows?
2012-07-13 11:45:11
yes f2p 100%
2012-07-13 11:50:03
LOL? LOL will die soon? because not lol at WCG? ARE U KIDDING ME? :D:D:D:D

Most teams are built with a mix from some countries, but on WCG they cant play ....
2012-07-13 12:26:42
+1
2012-07-13 13:52:23
ill create a small list, since i play both games:

-if you die, you lose gold in dota 2, which makes the game harder than lol because u get in a big gold/exp disadvantage since u have to spent money for a tp scroll to come back aswell.

- dota 2 hero mechanics are much harder to master, u cant just spam qwer and there are serveral heroes like invoker, chen, enchantress who have like 10 spells to use, not only 4. more to chen and enchantress below:

- micro management, in dota 2 there are heroes like chen and enchantress that can take jungle creeps under theier controll, all of them are freely moveable and have their own spells. u can controll up to 3 jungle creeps and need to tab/switch between all of them, navigate them in teamfights for good positioning or body blocks and use all of their spells, u will need all of them. so u basicly play 4 heroes at once which is a multi tasking job and extremly hard to master. lol doesnt even have this, sadly.

- the map is much darker in dota 2, u can time ganks better and hide in between trees, there is a river with 2 rune spots that spawn runes all 2 mins, u need to keep this spots warded and should have 1 player in your team that bottles the rune with a bottle item. also there is a day and night phase that accures heroes in a different way, some heroes have a great vision in night time, others have only a very small vision. this makes the game much harder than lol cause u have to time your ganks and teamfights on the current "day time" in dota.

- heroes like enigma, tidehunter etc. make teamfights way more exciting because they can turn around everything with their initiation, in lol the only one i know is sonas ult. and sona is a faceroll hero :S

- dota has an addictoinal role, the pusher. heroes like furion for example can kill trees and make treants out of them to be under his control and push down towers

- laning phase is way harder in dota, because u dont only last hit, you deny your own creeps aswell to get the enemy in a gold/exp disadvantage and outfarm him. this gives some epic battles about gold and exp graph, mostly on mid they play very well in this case. if one of ur lanes lack u need to gank, ganks happen way more often in dota because in lol its more about farm, in dota more about well timed ganks on day/night times, invisible runes etc.

- you can deny your own towers in dota 2, to not get the enemy get any gold from it. its hard to do but can turn around things and is very important

- the items are much harder to use in dota, u dont follow a standard build, all u buy depends on your enemies team and items, the majority of dota items have an active abillity so that means you always have to use a lot of keybinds for all your items, you need all of them in teamfights and need to time them very well. besides your spells of course :P in lol most items are passives only. also there are items like smoke bomb in dota which makes your whole team invisible in a small radius, you need to conter that with dust or sentry wards.

- as i said before, dota has day and night time, besides that it doesnt have a static field of view, you can abuse things like highgrounds (stairs) etc. to gain a bigger field of view than your enemy. also this makes placing wards harder than in lol, lol has always the same field of view. this makes dota way harder strategic and movement wise than lol.

my thoughts: lol is a nice and funny game for everyone, everyone can learn it doesnt matter how intelligent or unintelligent he is. boys or girls doesnt matter what age they are, everyone can have fun in lol because you learn it much faster, its reduced to the minimum tactics that dota had. so if u want some relaxing game and just fun, go to lol. if your are a tryhard player and enjoy competitive games and esport, you have the time and the EFFORT to learn the complex mechanics and want to master them go to dota. good plays are way more rewarding, it will be the hell at the beginning and you will be a noob for like half of the year, even if u nerdplay dota 2 every day. one little mistake will be unforgiven. u will get ganked hard and just be outplayed at the beginning until u know some tactics, by teams that just play tighter. but winning in dota feels much more deserved, you have some epic 1hour+ games and you have to focus and do SO many things and then u do some perfect plays and win a tight game, feels amazing.

maybe i forgot some parts but well, be free to add some :P



2012-07-13 12:58:59
ah one more small thing to add:

- in dota 2 you have EVERYTHING unlocked from the start, all heroes and stuff. this is very important for competitive plays because its all about pick and conter picks. if u wouldnt have a specific heroe that your team needs, it would be a pain in the ass. in lol you have to grind IP first to unlock stuff, which is very annoying.

and lol always has the same meta, solo top, solomid, jungle, support and carry bot. which makes it very boring imo :X dota is more variable


dota 2 will be free to play aswell, aviable on steam (<3) and u have everything unlocked from the start. you can have ur own steam community profiles in dota with avatars and stuff, gain steam rewards etc. feel free to give it a try, i bet most of u lol players will not even survive 2 weeks in the game. just a few of you, the good ones :)
2012-07-13 13:12:53
"this is very important for competitive plays because its all about pick and conter picks"

For competitive LoL (lan tournaments or online tournaments) there is a tournament server where you get 55000000 RP and IP to unlock ~all champs and the runes you need. For a non-pro (even for pros playing on public ranked servers) this is a disadvantage indeed, but not for competitive games.

2012-07-13 16:43:15
Some issues you've posted are getting fixed in the next update. Some 'Anonymous' beta testers have leaked the details about the next patch and what Valve are doing with it.

A lot of new modes are also being introduced soon. I'll be writing an article on it shortly. Should be out by Sunday night ;)

Post edited 2012-07-13 15:37:16
2012-07-13 15:35:47
where did i post issues? but cool. looking forward to new models
2012-07-13 16:03:31
Not exactly issues but, ummmm points! For instance the loss of Gold when you die is one of the things that are gonna change in an upcoming patch if the leak is to be believed.
2012-07-13 17:42:55
they shouldnt, its an important thing^^ what they could change is not losing gold for suicide
2012-07-13 17:48:14
Yep, I feel the same but if you look at the list of stuff coming up, Valve seems to be heading in a better direction overall.

http://www.gamersbook.com/scene/news/current-state..
2012-07-13 17:50:35
ahhh this is an addictional gaming mode, it was in wc3 dota aswell. its not the normal dota :) u can switch between game modes later so dont worry.

"Free Mode: No cool downs with no mana cost on skills." haha, expect chen spamming "hand of god" from his base :D this going to be a trolling mode
2012-07-13 17:55:35
Zeus ulti :P
2012-07-13 18:49:29
haha xD
2012-07-13 19:11:18
+1
2012-07-13 17:35:01
Great points.

- you can deny your own towers in dota 2, to not get the enemy get any gold from it

When you deny your tower the enemy still gets 100 gold each.
2012-07-14 10:11:10
but its still less than normal and the enemy gets no XP from it. when u dont deny it, all enemies get 200g and the one that destroys the tower gets addictional 350-650g^^ thats a lot
2012-07-14 10:38:16
yup was just pointing out for people who wouldnt know that they you get some gold and not no gold at all when deny (:
2012-07-14 11:40:51
yep. my mistake sorry, ure right they get a slightly amount of gold but not really noticieable^^

Post edited 2012-07-14 11:45:18
2012-07-14 11:44:56
Agreed. I think Heroes of Newerth should be mention too, since it's quite popular too. Unfortunately it's behind Dota2 and LoL communitywise. however, if you compare the gameplay HoN is on top in my opinion. But in the end the personal preference comes out. LoLfags say that LoL is the best, HoNtrash's flame on Dotards and the other way around.
And last but not least to the difficulty, even progamers(LoL,HoN,Dota2) say that Dota2 and Heroes of Newerth require more skill than LoL. LoL is not hard to learn, you only need as much knowledge of heroes and items as you can, thats it.

let the flame begin.
2012-07-15 12:11:33
ye i know plenty of high elo players from LoL aswell who switched over to dota 2 now and they told me aswell that lol is much easier and quite unbalanced because of the runes and masteries^^
2012-07-15 13:59:23
Every "insight" you have about lol is not only wrong but in same cases hilarious.

"sona is a faceroll hero"
LEL.
Another autistic kid who takes MOBA games way too serious.

2012-07-15 14:03:07
everything i say there is correct, and yes sona is a faceroll hero :) but she is still one of my favorite lol heroes since i like her passive auras. but the only thing that requires a very little amount of skill on sona, is her ultimate.
2012-07-15 14:08:21
dota 2 is of course better then lol
2012-07-13 13:06:28
Who are main events of LoL, Dota2 as CS1.6 was in WCG,IEM,e-Stars?
2012-07-13 13:22:49
IEM,dreamhack, MLG,OGN, well WCG was last year, bunch not main, but lan events : like ECC poland gonna be soon, nvidia lan tournament ( i think those are 1 time events , don't sure ). lot of online tournaments.

Post edited 2012-07-13 14:33:14
2012-07-13 14:32:10
and btw:

WCG 2012 Official Game Titles:



FPS (First Person Shooting)

Cross Fire® (NEOWIZ GAMES)



Sports

FIFA 12 (Electronic Arts)



WCG 2012 Promotional Game Titles:



FPS (First Person Shooting)

Counter-Strike Online (Nexon/Valve)



Action MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online)

World Of Tanks (Wargaming)
2012-07-13 13:48:14
i think LoL > Dota 2
2012-07-13 13:55:11
dota 2 sucks
2012-07-13 13:59:15
haha, i wanna see how dota2 will compare to those numbers, gl
2012-07-13 14:54:28
angry birds has more players omg best game in the world so hard lol pro gamers everywhere yooooooooooooo
2012-07-13 15:28:28
u are really frustrated, is just a videogame relax... and LoL compete with sc2 in Korea, that just shows LoL isnt that bad

Post edited 2012-07-13 16:48:37
2012-07-13 16:45:44
nah im not frustrated, its just annoying when kids play a bad copy of the original game and call their game as the best.

this is exactly the same reason why people talk bad about cs:source on hltv ;) same with lol and dota. oldschoolers dont like the easy copy and flame it. or even csgo, i think u as cs player can understand me, when u started playing a game back in the days and loved it and see they bring a new version where everything is such so casual and easy you just hate it and do a facepalm to the kids who play that game and say its so hard and difficult :D

Post edited 2012-07-13 17:10:47
2012-07-13 17:07:15
i kind understand, but is not a copy of the original, is just other moba game which is very successful. If we think like that noone would play pro evolution and keep playing Fifa all entire life, or play doom and duke nukem lol
2012-07-13 18:06:25
nah its still kind of a copy, even one of the riot workers was in the wc3 dota team back then. he wanted to make a dota clone open for everyone to get some money, back then dota was a free mod and nobody earned money with it. dota has been a community project ^^
2012-07-13 18:14:36
people still don't get that it's closed Beta for Dota 2 :-D
2012-07-13 17:09:23
Dota 2 > Dota > LoL
2012-07-13 14:54:36
Dota 2 is by far the better game. No surprise there.
2012-07-13 15:33:48
dota stronk lol wronk
2012-07-13 16:01:25
Am I the only person who has never tryed both :O ?
2012-07-13 16:13:35
dota 2 is better:)))))
2012-07-16 01:15:19
yeah I already saw the game, looks better than LoL. My pc can't open none of them so I'm still stuck at playing 1.6 :)

From what I've seen Dota2 is better, but I'll probably go to LoL because all of my friends play it since the beggining so dunno it they'll make the change :)
2012-07-16 01:29:13
wait,am I the only one playing LoL for fun or what?
dota 2 is oriented to the more competitive side of gaming,while LoL fits better for casual gamers
it can be competitive aswell,if you look at the top teams,and the money they get from sponsors but not as competitive as dota2,where you have to obtain a bigger experience wich comes with time :)
2012-07-13 16:51:23
this.
2012-07-13 17:00:13
Who cares about Dota and LoL?

Post edited 2012-07-13 17:01:15
2012-07-13 16:59:57
by: jlp
#238
"Riot Games' League Of Legends Officially Becomes Most Played PC Game In The World"
LoL >>>>>>>>>> Dota
2012-07-13 17:01:39
dota2 will gain a significant amount of players when it becomes f2p,until then yes, LoL amount of players>Dota 2 amount of players

The game's quality is not reflected by the amount of players playing it

There will always be people who prefer LoL over Dota and Dota over LoL
2012-07-13 17:04:19
u cant even count that numbers, since most people dont buy video games. they crack them or dl them with torrent.

the most played game overall is angry birds from what i heard. 600mio players
2012-07-13 17:13:50
If I remember that article correctly it stated that it was the most played game in EU/NA.

People forget Dota in China is growing to a similar state of Starcraft in South Korea...
2012-07-13 17:17:36
well lol is growing in the asian scene too..
2012-07-16 03:49:20
lol is already big in china
2012-07-16 19:01:36
Hey justin bieber most viewed video on youtube. Justin bieber >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all other bands / singers! nice logic
2012-07-14 10:13:50
If I see this correctly, Dota 2 will be played at WCG?

It is really not that great of a decision unless they plan to have only Chinese teams. This is because a lot of the top teams in Dota 2 (Na`Vi, mTw, mouz etc) are full of multinational lineups..

If WCG uphold their all 5 players must be from 1 country rule Dota 2 will be fail for them.
2012-07-13 17:16:20
dotA allstars > dotA 2 anyday, anytime.
2012-07-13 17:19:03
What you seem to forget is that Riot will not be watching helplessly as their game gets owned in terms of popularity by DotA2. I'm sure there will be some changes to make the gameplay more diverse, althought it's kind of hard to predict what they're going to be. I think the spectator mode (which is cool) was just the begining.

I'm quite an avid LoL player, I switched to the game after 11 years of playing CS on a satisfying level and I find it pretty cool. Stating things like LoL is a game for children is a symptom of pure retardation or immaturity. During the era of 1.6 vs CSS flamewars I was bashing on CS:S myself, but now I kind of feel sorry for people who go berserk in LoL vs DotA threads. Grow the fuck up, play the game you enjoy more, don't preach to people. What I also noticed is that DotA players seem to be much more verbally abusive, which is typical of kids, so another theory about the LoL community being only children goes down the drain.

On a side note I can't wait to try out DotA2, from what I've seen on streams it seems fun.
2012-07-13 17:28:33
i think riot will make all heroes (or champs how they are called in lol) aviable. i think they should do that atleast
2012-07-13 17:57:02
Yea, that's a good point. Right now they're trying their best to make all champions viable, especially those who are considered trollpicks, that is Eve and Twitch. I also think that something should be done about the rune system, as far as I know there is no equivalent to them in DotA. It creates a certain imbalance, I remember being level 10 or so and facing a level 30 opponent with a rune page devoted solely to magic penetration and ability power, it was so unfair it almost made me quit the game. On the other hand runes are a kind of reward for playing more. I dunno. Time will tell.
2012-07-13 20:49:59
Both Eve and Twitch will be remaked. :P
2012-07-14 16:56:30
I have been playing Dota since 2006, and CS since 2008. I started playing lol last year. And yeah, it's a really cool game. These guys saying that it doesn't require skill, are simply clueless. Let them talk, as they please.

Also, I'm pretty sure you will like playing Dota2! It's a really cool game, even though it's still on beta.

Cheers
2012-07-13 18:03:29
Yea, I even wanted to try out the DotA2 beta, but I realised I've absolutely no idea about the game. Me playing it would be defeating the very purpose of a beta phase as I would provide no coherent critique to Valve. But still, I'm gonna give it a try once it's open. As for LoL, as I used to be the stratcaller in my CS teams and I think I can value the complexity of LoL, it's definitely there, you need to put a lot of thinking into lvl 1 engagements, counterjungling, map objectives, team comps, synergies between certain champs etc. It's a load of fun.

Cheers!
2012-07-13 20:57:32
Congratulations. You just destroyed the dota 2 fanboys LOL
2012-07-13 18:10:50
You, my friend, seem like the most mature person among all these comments in this thread. I switched from CS to LoL like half a year ago, and I just agree with everything you've said.
2012-07-16 01:49:40
99% of the people in this thread saying that "Lol is for unskilled players" and such, doesn't have elo above 1500.

Try to play even in my elo seed, ~2100, and see if Lol is that easy. I didn't even metion the pro seed, because there's no need for that.

And I play Dota since 2006.
2012-07-13 17:59:59
League of Legends gathers more viewers from Pro streams in one day than any final of counter-strike ever, this comes from a guy who played cs for 6 years and loved it and now i just turned to LoL cuz lLoL is too OP!!!
2012-07-13 18:04:11
Not really, it's obvious Dota is more popular in China and, first of all: take into consideration the fact, that most of the top teams in lol are multi-national, means they can't participate in the tournament, equals Riot didn't really want LoL to be at WCG that hard.
2012-07-13 18:09:36
ok,i see that someone must rape theese lol newbies,and i think ima gonna do it...so lets start with some FACTS.

1)games speed,fog,and escape mechanisms.

so lets start,in lol u can walk the whole map in half time u can do in dota,also in lol u always have teleport to base,and worst of all lol's fog and trees SUCKS,and i will give u a scenario about it.

im low hp,an enemie find me,in order to avoid him in lol,enter some trees (bup dispear)press enter,and if im lucky i got away with it...
some scenario with dota,i must have a quelling blade,know the map EXACTLY ,and carry a tp scroll,if im good enough i will escape.

its crystal clear u need to be a lot more skilled and faster in dota than lol.

2)last hitting,laning farm
in lol u farm with spells,wtf?u kidding me,right?i wanna see a lol newb go and farm in a lane at dota/dota 2 against a good oponent with denies,totaly destroyed...

3)gangs,gangs in dota can be a lot more creative(thanks to the games balance,the items,and the good players it have)also day/night plays a huge role in dota,as well runes,theese things are nowhere in lol.

3)in lol u die and u dont lose gold,so even if u are a total noob u will equip yourself,i cant say im a bad player,but it has happened to end a dota game with just boots and small item on me,

dotas farm needs a lot more skill than lols.

4) metagame,the fact that lol has so many heroes and gets new heros every know and then is good and bad,in dota heroes have some evolution,5 years ago nobody was playing crixalis with blink dagger(for example) the fact that lol have new heros all the time is good because of the orint,and its bad because u cant "stay" on a basic metagame,wich allow the players to become better,and the trueth is that in moba games (even at dota) they will be op or weak,so there is no point at least in my view

5)dota lost ppl to hon and lol because it didnt have a reconect system and the disconects and leavers were ruining the game,i know many dota players that switched to hon and lol cause of that,and i know that all of theese will play dota 2...

6)I WANNA SEE A FAKING LOL PLAYER PLAY EARTHSHAKER WITH DAGGER AND REFRESHER ORB AND DO EVERYTHING RIGHT.
im tired of the faking qwer players,come and see how nice PIANO u need to play at dota


conclusion,dota is the original game ,its hard,its competitive,and it needs balls,lol is just a noob friendly game copy of dota,and it will go down with the release of dota 2
END OF STORY LOL FAKTARDS.
2012-07-13 18:23:56
Perfect..
2012-07-13 18:26:35
+1, but you do know that in dota2 you have qwer system? :D and it's not that big deal, dagger, ulti, fissure, refresh, ulti, fissure... i assume you have hotkey program for inventory? but atropus is way different story :D
2012-07-13 18:33:19
You prefer dota, some prefer LoL, deal with it
2012-07-13 18:58:07
And ppl say perfect.. so many wrong point here..
Ofc LoL seems like Dota, it's a retard sentence, like we can say that CS is like an FPS.. WOW

so, for the first fact: Yeah, in lol and in dota too, if you play in lowlevel you can escape easily without problem. In high rank it's way more different.

2 facts : Last hiting with spells ? in lowlevel game maybe.. and ppl who know how last hit can easy denies.. This is like exactly the same thing.. (I have played both game, so i know what i'm talking about..)

3 facts : More creative ? yeah you have more item with actif in Dota, but they are always the same we see in high rank game.. in Dota you have runes when in LoL you have RED/BLUE buff.

3 ² facts : The gold death things is just for faster game.. A player who die 3 time in a row in both game cant win is lane. That make no difference.

4 facts : Metagame is clearly existant in LoL i dont event understand your argument here, new char have their post, so obviously ppl can be better. I dont say that drop new champ every two week is good, but it's not bad etheir.

League of Legends have noob player, like everygame (no, you aren't a good intelligent player when you go on Dota.. Like you're not good because you play 1.6)
LoL go down with the release of Dota 2 ? You know, if dota 2 become a F2P it's not for nothing, it's because they know that if they dont, they cant even have a large community. Dota 2 become a F2P because they want the same size of community that LoL.
2012-07-13 19:00:43
Everything you said about lol is plain wrong. You obviously do not know even how the basics work in that game. Also yeah dota is the original, with flawed systems like AGI/INT/STR, the AP/AD system with spellvamp/lifesteal and magicresist/armor is by far superior. Not to mention other limitations the game has due to w3 engine (same limitations that are being transfered to dota2 so that autistic system babbys who played dota for the last 7 years don't have to adapt), like the delay etc. LOL is actually less forgiving than dota, in dota if you are playing an AGI hardcarry like Magina if the game lasts long enough and you farm prudently while avoiding death you just shit on everyone and the fact that your team sucked donkey cocks doesn't matter. lol actually requires teamwork in lategame aswell.

dota2 will not overtake LOL, you wanna know why? Because LOL is designed to cater to casuals and openly admits being a casual game in a casual genre while dota2 is made for autistic idiots who take MOBA games way too seriously.
2012-07-13 19:16:20
yeah, you get disable from nessaj for example, while ursa beats the hell outta you, yeah, you can win 1 on 5, you cant win vs hard carry if he has even one stunner beside him, since he is also fed by the 60th minute mark. stick with lol, trust me
2012-07-13 19:39:37
Thanks for the advice, don't need it though since I've played both games extensively and I know what I'm talking about unlike the gentleman to whos post I replied.
2012-07-13 20:42:08
+1 What an idiot, it shows clearly that he never played any ranked game or a higher skill level.
2012-07-14 04:07:02
+1 cant agree more. nice to see some people with brain on
2012-07-13 21:10:11
you agree with him? Most of the things he said about LoL are false LOL
2012-07-14 04:07:38
Excuse me sir, have you got a beta invitation to dota2?
2012-07-15 21:49:11
Sorry man, i have 0 at the moment, if i get one more ill give it to you.
2012-07-15 22:44:49
Nah, not for that, i have got it. I just simply asked to know if you had a chance to play :)
2012-07-15 23:47:32
Oh i thought you wanted one.. Yes i had an invitation and i have played a few times.
2012-07-16 00:38:41
Okay then :)
2012-07-16 09:15:46
+1 Well played =)!
2012-07-14 10:15:10
How butthurt and mentally challenged you must be. LoL is easier to learn, dota players have been around for years so noobs are less likely to show ingame. And there's just no point in arguing with you, everyone play what they prefer. Deal with it.
2012-07-16 01:55:23
when lol came out back then, i said to myself i'll never play lol, it's a dota clone, blablabla, but once i tried it i came to conclusion that it's not that terrible like most of people think. i have dota 2 on steam and i pretty much resembles lol in terms of shop, recommended item built etc., so you could end up saying dota2 resembles lol in a way, but generally saying dota2>lol and it's good that tournaments are starting to support dota2 more frequently
2012-07-13 18:26:52
Dota-shit will never push LoL back.

One can give Dota max 1 year of competitive gaming, then rip ;]]

U can start flaming right now, I don't care.
Go play dota instead of lol, it will help us clear the game from nobs lol.

Flame me now :<!
2012-07-13 20:57:24
dota is competitive since 2005, so it are 7 years now. and with dota 2 it will get even bigger since its going to be a game and not a modification anymore

newfag
2012-07-13 21:13:32
u didnt follow dota scene didnt u? so u better keep ur mouth shut.
2012-07-14 09:24:40
Dota 1 was new, it was something new what intrested and amused ppl.
No doubt it was good game as hell.

Dota2 is 'reneved' dota1, this shit without pumping in it TONS of money will die as soon as showed up.

LoL is nowadays (so far) best competitive game. Its also more casual game -> more people will try it out from time to time.

What are u talking about, dota scene... SCENE ?! what the fuck ? xD
It was small community comparing to eSport nowadays.

Open ur fuckin eyes :D
2012-07-15 14:38:08
lol is definitely not the best competive game? I hardly consider it a competive game considering Riot pays every tourament organizer to pick up their game.

LoL is a casual game, and that is it. And if you think the dota scene is small you have no clue at all. Go to Asia, the Dota scene is huuuge.

LoL won't die when Dota 2 is released, but Dota 2 will definitely be the leading MOBA game.
2012-07-15 15:27:13
well i see ur mentally retarded, and u didnt answer my question about following scene. try it out someday
2012-07-15 15:37:51
Haha, if you're talking about Asia-nations.
I may be wrong, but every competitive game there has huuuuge scene.
Period retard, how hypocritic :D

and no, I don't and I won't follow the scene of every fuckin game.

Yes, dota has a chance to become #1 of competitive moba games, but only if valve (or another organizators/sponsors) will puf lots of money : ))

See ya in couple of years, you'll remind my words.

Post edited 2012-07-15 15:46:15
2012-07-15 15:44:04
just wait. beta game being in top2 is something cool. u can see what happens when game will be Realized cya after several years kurwashithead
2012-07-15 17:08:38
Excuse me sir, but you have a very closed up mind. Are you suggesting that renewing an epic game won't attract more players?

2012-07-15 21:51:50
more like LoL max 1 more year =)
2012-07-14 10:17:23
Nice try troll. DOTA 2 can be a better game, I don't know cuz I never played it, I only play LoL and CS, but what I can say is that people are investing a lot more in LoL, and that's what makes a game die or not. WCG has been an event that has crashed over the years, riot didn't want to invest in such event since it wouldn't benefit them cuz the events is not as good aas it used to be. Even CS tournament sucked in WCG with less than 50% top teams attending to it.

Season 2 of LoL has a prize money of 2 million dollars. Tell me a game that has a higher prize money. LoL is growing and it will become one of the main eSports in the world. Streams of big tournaments get 200,000 viewers all the time.

Dota 2 can be good, but it will be a shadow of what LoL is anyday.
2012-07-13 21:03:13
? we will see that shitty game will die soon
2012-07-14 02:26:17
That's why LoL season 2 will feature 5.6 million dollars
2012-07-14 14:05:46
Dota 2 had a 1.6kk prize pool tournament only on the announcment tournament of Dota 2 beta. I don't really think you could compare it to those 2 million.
2012-07-15 22:35:10
i dont play SC,Dota,LOL but i think they will died after 7-8 years. When the new game come out.
2012-07-13 21:16:45
dota will never die ..
2012-07-14 19:23:02
I doubt Starcraft will die.
2012-07-15 15:28:06
I love how retarded idiots who play only cs flame lol because it has taken many 1.6 players. :D I didn't like lol too, but then started to play with my friends and I think it's a great game(and there are no cheaters :]).
2012-07-14 00:14:27
haha nice m8:)))))
2012-07-16 01:24:44
Rip WCG
2000 - 2012 †

Post edited 2012-07-14 01:35:35
2012-07-14 01:34:13
League of Legends dieing? nice joke bro hahahahaha
2012-07-14 02:31:29
League of legends will never die, imo dota and dota 2 > lol my opinon lol have soo many kid, he leave etc.. In dota 2 russ ppl have russ server its nice :-D
2012-07-14 05:13:03
In DotA2 Russians got their own server, but every fucking russian is ruining every single game in EU server.
2012-07-14 09:43:06
well it depends. there are plenty of russians out there who actually speak a proper english and play very well.

get higher in the matchmaking and into the high or midskill pool and u wont face the annoying players anymore. made my worse experience with turks and germans btw, not russians
2012-07-14 10:40:44
there are almost no turks on dota 2,cuz mh dont exist there :D
2012-07-14 12:04:50
ive played with some :D and it was horrible, atleast that group was probably the worst ive ever had.

have to tell u a story about that, hope u play dota and understand it then. well there was an axe in our team (the turks) and he had invisible rune, went up the midlane to spot the enemies but still had a courier following him!! so he was standing invisible behind 3 enemies, the courier came delivered the item, they noticed it and killed the courier, used dust and killed him aswell :D i was like "is this really happening?....."
2012-07-14 12:07:47
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD,trust me,i had some worse
2012-07-14 12:13:25
so true
2012-07-14 15:15:05
Hours played between June 2011 and June 2012.

1. League of Legends 1,292,502,456
2. World of Warcraft 622,378,909
3. Minecraft 371,635,651
4. Heroes of Newerth 184,520,156
5. Diablo III 172,907,605
6. Battlefield 3 171,852,550
7. MapleStory 165,503,651
8.StarCraft II 163,980,293
9. World Of Tanks 145,702,931
10. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 126,754,082

LoL is really dying.
2012-07-14 12:26:55
maple story, omg this game xD
2012-07-14 18:36:21
for sure.
2012-07-15 00:53:09
Xfire...
2012-07-15 15:34:49
yeah, this is only xfire hours..
2012-07-15 17:08:17
yes, and that means it is not solid evidence, because most people don't even use xfire. it is pretty obvious SC2 and and D3 would both be above HoN if that was the case
2012-07-15 18:28:42
Of course, but that applies to LoL as well, so its stats would be over 9000 :D
2012-07-15 18:31:34
dont get me wrong, im not saying LoL wouldnt be first, all im saying is you can't really use the xfire stats as evidence.

but oh well I should probably have replied to one of the other guys using the stats though, considering all this guy did was just showing LoL isn't dying lol
2012-07-15 21:26:03
yes, this is only for xfire, but i do believe that even without xfire the number of hours would be in LoL favor 4sure.
2012-07-16 15:11:36
u forgot something pandaria is coming
2012-07-16 01:26:27
www.own3d.tv , www.twitch.tv , go this sites and check what game peoples are watching mostly :)
2012-07-14 12:57:07
DotA 2 can be more hard game than LoL but it's clear that LoL is #1 game in eSports. Quake was harder game than 1.6 but 1.6 is still in esports.
It's just about community behind the game. IceFrog was saying that LoL has max 1 year and it'll end soon but LoL has 5.6 million for season 2.
2012-07-14 14:28:54
Useless thread, useless discussion. You like what you like and that's it. Who ever starts a discussion like this (Dota2>LOL or CS 1.6> CS:S) is in my opinion a big idiot.
2012-07-14 16:23:05
+1
2012-07-14 19:42:17
LoL will be at IEM and dreamhack, with more events...
2012-07-14 17:45:23
i don't hate LoL/Dota2 .... but i hate when people create forums about those games in a site that is specialized for CS ... :/
2012-07-14 18:00:33
Doesnt matter how harder you say dota 2 is, LoL is obviously the biggest esport game atm and probably bigger then 1.6 ever was even in it's prime.
2012-07-14 19:02:22
as a competitive game it is not that big, it is big mainly because you don't have to spend a penny to play and even then the game is so one dimensional that it doesn't even have lane variants like DotA so every newbie can have fun playing it. Also it is the biggest game in USA, a place where casual/console gaming is massive and eSports die with ease (i.e. CS, Quake, Broodwar, etc).

Even SC2 numbers look funny compared to LoL, imagine what a game with much richer gameplay like DotA could do for eSports.
2012-07-14 19:11:47
define competitive pls
2012-07-14 19:19:11
competitivity = poeple playing in tournaments

2012-07-14 20:07:34
well, so definitely you dont know much about the competitive scene at LoL
2012-07-20 02:48:05
DOTA 2 FTW BEST GAME EVER !
2012-07-14 19:21:02
who gives a shit about WCG when there's The International lol
2012-07-14 21:24:55
LoL will die?? laughs.
2012-07-14 22:21:33
everyone has his own game u shouldn't make fun of other games dying rather than trying to help out that just shows how bad u are and there willbe many other tournaments doing LoL so don't worry fans and keep the tight up and btw i never even played the game doesn't mean i should insult the players of it.grow up people.
2012-07-15 00:08:04
Dota 2 > Lol
It look better, it plays better, it just better.

Post edited 2012-07-15 00:57:48
2012-07-15 00:57:26
Like I give a fuck about lol
2012-07-15 14:06:18
WCG is a shit tournament comparing to these all LOL tourneys. LOL doesn't give a single fuck about WCG.
2012-07-15 14:10:29
one thing im sure: CS and DotA2 >>>>> LoL in skillGap ;DDD
2012-07-15 21:30:06
WCG is a fail anyway, lol is perfect, dota2 is better, more ppl play lol, and less dota2. Stop hating the both, dota2 players dont even play lol so they dont know how it is, and lol players dont play dota2 either. But face it, league of legends is more popular than dota2 in this moment.
2012-07-15 21:34:03
dota 2 is awesome ;D
2012-07-15 21:39:24
I am really disappointed of people who disrespect DotA, the foundation of MOBA gaming. In addition, DotA2 is not some kind of crappy remake by Valve, it's IceFrog's (he was the main head behind DotA) continuation on Dota. As i read, there were some things that had limited the production of dota, when it was in it's WC3-form. I had my experince in many moba games. For instance from the beggining of LoL, the free beta of HoN (even now i have a full acc), wc3 DotA and now DotA2. Of course i do really prefer DotA 2, at the very minute i had gotten my beta key, I threw all other games aside and rushed to play it for several hours. It was fascinating.
Unfortunately, todays gaming-skill trend is in a downward direction (more obviously talking about casual type of games). In competetive gaming the skill level is determined by it's players and of course the system of a game. So I can state from my experience that LoL really is easier than DotA. Not only talking about the deny system, runes and other stuff mentioned in the comments above. But don't forget about the jungle. It's far more difficult. The jukes you can make, the escape routes you can take, for God's sake, you can chop trees! And of course the creep camp stacking, messing up peoples camps with wards and etc. I do really see a bigger variety of so "what-you-can-do" to benefit yourself to victory.
Sadly, i think that LoL is more commonly a casual-competetive game than DotA. The thing that they made with LoL, was that people, who aren't really familiar with gaming, could just try it, because it's more noob friendly than dota (and of course at that time, playing dota via wc3 was really hard to learn). And it still is the same, more noob friendly (not that i'm talking that it's for noobs, just to justify, noob has gotten it's form from the word newbie or a new player). So i think that some people look at LoL more as a casual game. Of course, you can play both games for casual reasons, but in my mind, i have defined DotA as a more competetive game, a game that requiers more skills to learn, more challenge.
And for all of those little kiddies, who see an opposite opinion of theirs, and who start to talk about things, about their opinion, whom i do really not care. Don't waste time.
2012-07-15 22:19:49
+1 couldnt agree more
2012-07-16 00:57:52
Thank you ^ and \/, i wish some people would have this kind of state of mind. I mean, be more calm with their and other beliefs.
2012-07-16 09:14:14
by: pgz
#499
google translate FTW!
2012-07-16 01:09:36
Tu gali eit naxuj, jeigu nemoki anglu kalbos.
2012-07-16 09:09:07
by: pgz
#522
paziurek zodzio "provokacija" reiksme. Snargly
2012-07-16 12:24:37
perfect point of view
2012-07-16 06:46:51
well written man +1
2012-07-16 08:36:09
I can only hope that Dota2 will surprise us.Actually WCG has already disappointed me.Or I can say,all of us?
2012-07-16 09:18:51
Dota 2 is fucking amazing, icefrog got all the little nuances of dota perfectly right in dota 2 and I love the artstyle and the complexity of the game

LoL is a fucking joke and trashcan game, ask your proffesional players tsm.theoddone clearly said in an interview if dota 2 players transitioned to lol he would be out of a job and that he only plays lol because it's popular for now

Even the mature lol players accept that the game is shit, they just play it cuz it's more casual.

2012-07-16 10:17:06
What's your ELO in LoL? Or what's your current LvL on your LoL account + wins/looses?
2012-07-16 14:36:37
Is like saying:

"cya my friends,CS.16 will die and it will be soon :D WCG WITHOUT CS1.6 but with CS ONLINE!!! :D YEAAAAAH!!!"
2012-07-16 15:39:53
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/20279-es..


what now guysz haaaaahaaaaaaaa
2012-07-16 17:03:31
now the LoLfags will say something like: "herp derp eswc shit tournament like wcg, lol top1 <3 riot!!"
2012-07-16 18:16:36
dota,cs1.6 > all the fucking video games
2012-07-16 18:45:07
GunBound > Dota > LOL
2012-07-16 19:03:46
haha

oh man... You made me remember my lan times switching from gunbound to cs 1.6 everyhour. It was something like: 2hours of cs and after 2 hours of gunbound.

lol I used to spend all my weekends in a lan. Great times!

Post edited 2012-07-16 19:09:39
2012-07-16 19:09:30
SC2, LoL >>>>> alllll

and cs 1.6 remains in our hearts <3
2012-07-16 19:07:21
SC2 = CS1.6 > other games > Minesweeper > Looping Louie Drinking Game > LoL > CS:S
2012-07-16 19:11:35
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