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Zlatan Ibrahimovic to PSG
Ibrahimovic left Internazionale FC to FC Barcelona in order to win the Champions League title - Inter wins the Champions League.
After only 1 year in Barcelona, he leaves for AC Milan - Barca wins the CL.
In Milan he did a great job as a player but sadly he didn't manage to win the CL there either after loosing against Barcelona.
Now he leaves AC Milan for Paris Saint-Germain (PSG).
What is your thoughts about this transfer?
After only 1 year in Barcelona, he leaves for AC Milan - Barca wins the CL.
In Milan he did a great job as a player but sadly he didn't manage to win the CL there either after loosing against Barcelona.
Now he leaves AC Milan for Paris Saint-Germain (PSG).
What is your thoughts about this transfer?
good for france championship, but not sure its best choice for him
2012-07-18 02:47:20
omg pita join PSG
2012-07-18 11:00:32
UHAUHAAUHAUHAUHAUHAAUHAUHAUHA
2012-07-19 02:32:07
AHHAHAHHAHA
2012-07-19 03:11:08
with this team, psg can go really far in C1
2012-07-18 22:29:49
Doubt that. Will do as much damage as Manchester City last season.
2012-07-19 00:49:23
Well they got the players to do so, we can't really know.
2012-07-19 00:53:36
Great names (of course) bad teamplay, too much ego, sloth (money has already been earned), no real identification with the brand. Proceeding group stage would be a surprise in my opinion.
2012-07-19 00:58:21
They didn't even play together yet ^^, those are only expectations.
2012-07-19 00:59:58
Its all about the money money money..
2012-07-18 02:48:42
Tell me why he would have left Milan, even for Real madrid, if he had a lower income ?
2012-07-18 22:36:11
Seriouzly ibra only go to PSG for $$$$
2012-07-19 00:21:09
lol do you think that for a lower salary he would go to anywhere else ?No.
2012-07-19 00:34:53
Ok $$$$$$$
2012-07-19 00:49:03
I assume you're just retarded.
2012-07-19 00:54:18
You seriously think ibra go psg if psg dont have money fucking fan
2012-07-19 00:59:23
Who will even go to a club, if he won't be paid, now tell me idiot. Players don't go to their favorite club that they were supporting younger.
2012-07-19 01:03:41
Well, Ibrahimovic clearly earns way more money in PSG, cannot be denied.
2012-07-19 01:07:14
That's what I'm saying.
2012-07-19 01:07:53
Thats what i saying too
2012-07-19 01:36:40
Milan (Berlusconi) was in huge need for money so they sold their two best players, Zlatan (one of the best players in the world) and Thiago Silva (worlds best defender)... simple as that.
Milan seems to be forced having a couple midyears now due to poor economics, So best case scenario was to let go of Zlatan and Silva.
Ofc Zlatan earns some more now than he would do in Milan at this point but if it just was for the money he would've played like somewhere in Abu Dhabi/-Dubai all his career.
Look at hockey for example, the best league is NHL but in the second best leaugue - KHL you earns the best money but still majority of the top players wanna play where the best future is. Same like Zlatan and PSG.
And this is quite a new scenario - great challenge and adventure for Zlatan putting Paris and french club-football back on the map. He is 31 now, prooved he is one of the best players during quite long amount of time, so why you just hating on him is just plain idiocracy.
Milan seems to be forced having a couple midyears now due to poor economics, So best case scenario was to let go of Zlatan and Silva.
Ofc Zlatan earns some more now than he would do in Milan at this point but if it just was for the money he would've played like somewhere in Abu Dhabi/-Dubai all his career.
Look at hockey for example, the best league is NHL but in the second best leaugue - KHL you earns the best money but still majority of the top players wanna play where the best future is. Same like Zlatan and PSG.
And this is quite a new scenario - great challenge and adventure for Zlatan putting Paris and french club-football back on the map. He is 31 now, prooved he is one of the best players during quite long amount of time, so why you just hating on him is just plain idiocracy.
2012-07-19 13:09:14
PGS and Man City competing for the Richest Club!
2012-07-18 02:51:19
Manchester United the richest club, has an advantage of $0.45 bilion over Real Madrid, which is followed by FC Barcelona. Manchester City are rated 13th, while PSG is out of top20.
Source: http://www.therichest.org/sports/richest-football-..
Post edited 2012-07-18 10:32:13
Source: http://www.therichest.org/sports/richest-football-..
Post edited 2012-07-18 10:32:13
2012-07-18 10:31:57
you just got owned, you can't build a good team without money nowadays, don't talk shit pls.
2012-07-18 22:30:27
Just think about Borrusia Dortmund :)
2012-07-18 23:29:26
lol Marseille has beaten them, even if they won the bundesliga, It won't last long, same for Montpellier who won ligue 1.
2012-07-18 23:40:23
Please you heard about youth academys? Nowadays every famous team buys the first person they think will suit their team instead of trying to build a stable youth team.
Post edited 2012-07-19 00:18:49
Post edited 2012-07-19 00:18:49
2012-07-19 00:18:27
Yeah they got players like Gotze because of that, but sincerely you can't really know (even the club themselves) if their players will improve as they want to, look at barca, they are forced to buy a 9, because Bojan wasn't that good for the club, so it could be the future of most of the club I don't know.
2012-07-19 00:39:48
Yes,Marseille beaten them because BVB is a young team and they don't have european experience
2012-07-19 00:28:08
i dont think you got his point
2012-07-19 00:05:13
I think Juventus will take skudetto easy :)
2012-07-18 02:53:02
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m29xyjxoBT1r13d6.. :DD
2012-07-18 03:00:52
PSG have some great young strikers coming up anyway, it wasn't really needed this transfer, Ibra is old now... won't be long till he runs off to Korea and China with all the other oldies.
2012-07-18 03:03:58
I read news PSG can buy ronaldo and mourinho I LAUGHT :>
2012-07-18 03:04:46
They can buy Ronaldo not now but in 3 years he will be 30 and his prime will be gone.. Real wont miss an opportunity to sell him for the same amount of money that they bought him from United.
2012-07-18 03:11:54
i cant think of any other star player who has switched clubs as often as he has done (that too between rivals). Because of this mercenary-like behaviour, he'll be remembered simply as a great player rather than a legend by any set of fans (except swedish ofc)
PSG look very strong on paper now but it will be interesting to see how ancelotti handles all the big egos in squad and develop them into a cohesive unit. But obvly he should commit suicide if they dont win french league now.
PSG look very strong on paper now but it will be interesting to see how ancelotti handles all the big egos in squad and develop them into a cohesive unit. But obvly he should commit suicide if they dont win french league now.
2012-07-18 05:53:22
what are my thoughts?
Milan wins champions
Milan wins champions
2012-07-18 07:45:29
Same for me.
2012-07-18 10:25:53
http://www.pown.it/4423
2012-07-18 10:29:22
PSG - french Man City? :D
2012-07-18 07:57:32
its not his choise , director of milan sold him to psg and he left barcelona because he was in conflict with everybody that he said in his book ...
2012-07-18 10:15:51
this suxx, clubs like chelsea, mancity and now psg should gtfo..
fucking hate those rich bastards who buy a football club
soon we wont see any "wonders" in cl like liverpool or porto
all about the fucking money, wankers
fucking hate those rich bastards who buy a football club
soon we wont see any "wonders" in cl like liverpool or porto
all about the fucking money, wankers
2012-07-18 22:36:36
LOL, look at fucking Real Madrid, Barca, Man Utd, etc, How nowadays would they even buy a single player without money you dumbass. The world is about money, so is football.
2012-07-18 22:39:49
they have huge debts
look at german clubs, no debts, taking players from youth and have success
THIS IS FOOTBALL, not hiring some arab who spends some millions for players
Post edited 2012-07-18 22:43:41
look at german clubs, no debts, taking players from youth and have success
THIS IS FOOTBALL, not hiring some arab who spends some millions for players
Post edited 2012-07-18 22:43:41
2012-07-18 22:43:16
don't waste your time ... i tried to explain to him before that maecenas ( ManCITY Chelsea PSG...) are killing football, in vain. He always answers the same bullshit.
Football is just fews kids, 2 goal and here we go =)
Football is just fews kids, 2 goal and here we go =)
2012-07-18 22:58:14
It's funny how you think you know football, how are they even killing football ?It improves ligue 1, and now they can compete versus big teams, theres more better teams which can all pretend to win the C1, more money more competition, or you prefer teams who are running out of money and players that way always the same teams will win everything as always.
2012-07-18 23:09:00
So Energy94, i'll try to be clear once and for all. But it's hard for me, it's like to explain to a chicken how to use a fork !!
1) (clubs without merit)
they become rich overnight thanks to their rich owner, not thanks to their sports results. And i have only respect for work, only respect for these clubs which work to build a competitive team for many years. I hope real football clubs aren't nauseated, to see that kind of clubs born.
2) (crazy wages)
ManCITY, Chelsea, PSG (soon) offers indecent salaries for players who don't always deserve it.
For exemple, Torres, Balotelli, Aguerro, Dzeko, Nasri ... +10M€/season, is it not crazy ? almost as much as Leo Messi !!! And (for Nasri) you've seen his shitty performance from Euro 2012 for YOUR country, because he doesn't care to play football for his country without (a lot of) money. All these players were good before, but now ?
Madrid Barca Bayern Manchester can offer the same salaries i know, but only for Real stars who deserve it, because they make us dream ( Messi, Iniesta, cr7, Xavi, Rooney, Ibra too ...) but above all, by following a logical progression and good results.
And I'm sure that Ozil, Di Maria, Higuain, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Podolski, Nani, Chicharito ... don't earn so much, whereas they are 10x better
3) (bad management)
A club need money to be competitive, OK !! But not a rich bastard who splash out his money, hardly. A club need good leadership. Just look at Bundesligua (Bayern Dortmund are the perfect examples of good management ...) Porto, Arsenal or Lyon few years ago are others good examples !!
I think you know a team need teamplay and cohesive unit. Look at Chelsea recently : Abramovitch spent 15M€ for Villas Boas (never seen that for a coach) ... 6 months later, Chelsea is 0. They took Di Matteo who was a former Chelsea player (for free) and we know what happened.
4) (prices rise)
This "football clubs" haven't any limit. They can buy any player any day although their sports results are not good enough. A smallest clubs which have good results can't try to buy a good player nowadays, because the bargain is completely distorted !! And I think it will be increasingly distorted, in the future ...
60M€ for Torres ?! 42M€ for Silva ?! 45M€ for Pastore ?! 40M€ for Hazard ?! 30 M€ for David Luiz ?! 45 M€ for Aguerro ?! (only for few games, while they've Balotelli Dzeko Silva ... )
I heard that City offered 180M€ for cr7 ... Maybe Abramovitch, Hamad al-Thani, or Al Fahim, think they're playing FIFA 12 ?
4) (Football in general)
You seem to forget, football is a popular sport. It's thanks to the passion of millions of people that football generates as much money. And most of them are absolutely shocked of all that business in this sport, and they can't identify to their favorite team, because the players are disconnected from reality
No Supports, no Passion, no Party !! Just money and Business ...
5) (he joined the argument 1)
PSG will surely win L1, but what is the merit ? It's like a fight between one Ferrari and a lot of Renault. So what ? It's good for the new psg's fanboy perhaps, but the others ?
Or maybe do you want a maecenas per club ? Football need Good Leaders, not Qatar or Russian billionaires !!
These clubs create an imbalance in football, they are just killing this sport !! It's time for you to open your eyes, and not to believe the media (who just want to sell you, their crap)
Look at the others comments, i'm not the only one to think that.
I'm sorry i love football so much to support (or to apreciate) a club which don't deserve his money. And i'm sorry too, if you think you absolutely need Qatar (easy magical money) to succeed ! You have an awful vision of sport in general.
PS : I hope women will not have to wear a veil to go to the Psg's stadium. (ok no funny aswell =) )
1) (clubs without merit)
they become rich overnight thanks to their rich owner, not thanks to their sports results. And i have only respect for work, only respect for these clubs which work to build a competitive team for many years. I hope real football clubs aren't nauseated, to see that kind of clubs born.
2) (crazy wages)
ManCITY, Chelsea, PSG (soon) offers indecent salaries for players who don't always deserve it.
For exemple, Torres, Balotelli, Aguerro, Dzeko, Nasri ... +10M€/season, is it not crazy ? almost as much as Leo Messi !!! And (for Nasri) you've seen his shitty performance from Euro 2012 for YOUR country, because he doesn't care to play football for his country without (a lot of) money. All these players were good before, but now ?
Madrid Barca Bayern Manchester can offer the same salaries i know, but only for Real stars who deserve it, because they make us dream ( Messi, Iniesta, cr7, Xavi, Rooney, Ibra too ...) but above all, by following a logical progression and good results.
And I'm sure that Ozil, Di Maria, Higuain, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Podolski, Nani, Chicharito ... don't earn so much, whereas they are 10x better
3) (bad management)
A club need money to be competitive, OK !! But not a rich bastard who splash out his money, hardly. A club need good leadership. Just look at Bundesligua (Bayern Dortmund are the perfect examples of good management ...) Porto, Arsenal or Lyon few years ago are others good examples !!
I think you know a team need teamplay and cohesive unit. Look at Chelsea recently : Abramovitch spent 15M€ for Villas Boas (never seen that for a coach) ... 6 months later, Chelsea is 0. They took Di Matteo who was a former Chelsea player (for free) and we know what happened.
4) (prices rise)
This "football clubs" haven't any limit. They can buy any player any day although their sports results are not good enough. A smallest clubs which have good results can't try to buy a good player nowadays, because the bargain is completely distorted !! And I think it will be increasingly distorted, in the future ...
60M€ for Torres ?! 42M€ for Silva ?! 45M€ for Pastore ?! 40M€ for Hazard ?! 30 M€ for David Luiz ?! 45 M€ for Aguerro ?! (only for few games, while they've Balotelli Dzeko Silva ... )
I heard that City offered 180M€ for cr7 ... Maybe Abramovitch, Hamad al-Thani, or Al Fahim, think they're playing FIFA 12 ?
4) (Football in general)
You seem to forget, football is a popular sport. It's thanks to the passion of millions of people that football generates as much money. And most of them are absolutely shocked of all that business in this sport, and they can't identify to their favorite team, because the players are disconnected from reality
No Supports, no Passion, no Party !! Just money and Business ...
5) (he joined the argument 1)
PSG will surely win L1, but what is the merit ? It's like a fight between one Ferrari and a lot of Renault. So what ? It's good for the new psg's fanboy perhaps, but the others ?
Or maybe do you want a maecenas per club ? Football need Good Leaders, not Qatar or Russian billionaires !!
These clubs create an imbalance in football, they are just killing this sport !! It's time for you to open your eyes, and not to believe the media (who just want to sell you, their crap)
Look at the others comments, i'm not the only one to think that.
I'm sorry i love football so much to support (or to apreciate) a club which don't deserve his money. And i'm sorry too, if you think you absolutely need Qatar (easy magical money) to succeed ! You have an awful vision of sport in general.
PS : I hope women will not have to wear a veil to go to the Psg's stadium. (ok no funny aswell =) )
2012-07-19 15:05:26
1)You are really talkinf of merit ?Do you even know that most of the club can't just manage the club only with the money they earned in the past ?They are all have debts because they are still borrowing money to the banks, even the clubs who have earned everything. These guys who inject money in the clubs are like banks, except that they won't demand them money later.
2)Does it even mind someone ?The income of every player is crazy, fault to the popularity of the sport. "And I'm sure that Ozil, Di Maria, Higuain, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Podolski, Nani, Chicharito ... don't earn so much, whereas they are 10x better" Well then inform yourself if you don't even know.
3)"(Bayern Dortmund are the perfect examples of good management ...) Porto, Arsenal or Lyon few years ago are others good examples !!" What did they win except their championship ?There are only 3 clubs which don't have debts in Germany. Are these clubs in the top 10 world ?Doubt it, they still have no chance versus the best club of the world who are buying overpriced players.
It doesn't depend of the investor, he only pay, managers are here to help the decision of the club's owner.
4)Oh come on, football has always been a business, tell me how other clubs with "merit" don't screw up at mercato. For example, Maradonna at his prime was the best player ever, his transfer to Napoli was 5M €, few years later Real madrid the best players of the moment : Beckham, Ronaldo, Figo, Zidane: 30M, 45M, 35M, 75M. Zidane's price was 15x times higher than Maradonna's one, after that, Robben 36M, then Benzema (he wasn't doing spectacular thing at Lyon) 35M as much as Robben's transfer, and ofc you know Ronaldo almst 100M and Kaka 75M. But they didn't stop doing shit, Coentrao 30M.
Aswell as Barcelona, they traded eto'o for ibra (quite even) but with 50M more. Then Villa 45M.
Andy carroll 35M, seriously ?
The prices depends, of the stupidity of the owners, and how much money they are ready to spend.
"they can't identify to their favorite team" it's not like they created a new club, some of them are giving them money to recreate a new squad, how is that killing a club ?Btw Most of owners of clubs, are business man, who don't know football.
5) The goal is to make Ligue 1 famous, and make them compete versus the best clubs, they want to improve their chances to wi european trophies, the winners are always the same, but you seem to don't care.
"These clubs create an imbalance in football, they are just killing this sport !!" Imbalance ?Except for Man city and Chelsea, no clubs of these types has won anything since the new owners are here.
"a club which don't deserve his money"How can you win anything without money ?Don't think that these clubs started with a shit squad, and with no money. For example Barcelona's creator was a swiss rich man, how about that ?
"You have an awful vision of sport in general" It's probably better to see always the same club winning, which creates an imbalance between the club.
"I hope women will not have to wear a veil to go to the Psg's stadium"
I don't even know how can people be so dumb.
2)Does it even mind someone ?The income of every player is crazy, fault to the popularity of the sport. "And I'm sure that Ozil, Di Maria, Higuain, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Podolski, Nani, Chicharito ... don't earn so much, whereas they are 10x better" Well then inform yourself if you don't even know.
3)"(Bayern Dortmund are the perfect examples of good management ...) Porto, Arsenal or Lyon few years ago are others good examples !!" What did they win except their championship ?There are only 3 clubs which don't have debts in Germany. Are these clubs in the top 10 world ?Doubt it, they still have no chance versus the best club of the world who are buying overpriced players.
It doesn't depend of the investor, he only pay, managers are here to help the decision of the club's owner.
4)Oh come on, football has always been a business, tell me how other clubs with "merit" don't screw up at mercato. For example, Maradonna at his prime was the best player ever, his transfer to Napoli was 5M €, few years later Real madrid the best players of the moment : Beckham, Ronaldo, Figo, Zidane: 30M, 45M, 35M, 75M. Zidane's price was 15x times higher than Maradonna's one, after that, Robben 36M, then Benzema (he wasn't doing spectacular thing at Lyon) 35M as much as Robben's transfer, and ofc you know Ronaldo almst 100M and Kaka 75M. But they didn't stop doing shit, Coentrao 30M.
Aswell as Barcelona, they traded eto'o for ibra (quite even) but with 50M more. Then Villa 45M.
Andy carroll 35M, seriously ?
The prices depends, of the stupidity of the owners, and how much money they are ready to spend.
"they can't identify to their favorite team" it's not like they created a new club, some of them are giving them money to recreate a new squad, how is that killing a club ?Btw Most of owners of clubs, are business man, who don't know football.
5) The goal is to make Ligue 1 famous, and make them compete versus the best clubs, they want to improve their chances to wi european trophies, the winners are always the same, but you seem to don't care.
"These clubs create an imbalance in football, they are just killing this sport !!" Imbalance ?Except for Man city and Chelsea, no clubs of these types has won anything since the new owners are here.
"a club which don't deserve his money"How can you win anything without money ?Don't think that these clubs started with a shit squad, and with no money. For example Barcelona's creator was a swiss rich man, how about that ?
"You have an awful vision of sport in general" It's probably better to see always the same club winning, which creates an imbalance between the club.
"I hope women will not have to wear a veil to go to the Psg's stadium"
I don't even know how can people be so dumb.
2012-07-19 17:21:10
you don't understand, i know football is a business, but it's not a reason to accept that billionaires play with these clubs.
"Bayern Dortmund (..) Porto, Arsenal or Lyon few years ago are others good examples !!" What did they win except their championship ?"
I don't know ... maybe C1? C3? (except Lyon, and Arsenal that went in Final in 2006 but they won C3)
For Barcelona, their management suxx and with the collapse of the capitalist model, they have a lot of economical pbs.
For Real Madrid it's different, they have debts too, but they generate enough profits to pay their creditors, so ...
"Most of owners of clubs, are business man, who don't know football." Finally i agree
On the other hand (point 5) i don't !! It's not Ligue 1 which will be famous it's Paris only. Any other club will be competitive in Europe ... Today and Tomorrow !!
"Except for Man city and Chelsea, no clubs of these types has won anything since the new owners are here." I don't know a lot of owners who use + 100M€ of their money to try to build a team (don't talk to me about these Jokes from Russia or China ...)
You say always the same thing "a club need money to start", but there is a difference between the shareholders who use their money (to try) to invest, and these guys from Qatar or Russia who only want to play. (In that cas, it's not a business ... Qatar maybe for their WC22)
For my last sentence, at the beginning it was just a joke (sad your lack of humor) but recently, look at the FIFA decision about the veil for women (for $$$ but quiet it's a secret)
Qatar's money has introduced religion in football, and it's just the beginning ...
Where is the football in there ?
"Bayern Dortmund (..) Porto, Arsenal or Lyon few years ago are others good examples !!" What did they win except their championship ?"
I don't know ... maybe C1? C3? (except Lyon, and Arsenal that went in Final in 2006 but they won C3)
For Barcelona, their management suxx and with the collapse of the capitalist model, they have a lot of economical pbs.
For Real Madrid it's different, they have debts too, but they generate enough profits to pay their creditors, so ...
"Most of owners of clubs, are business man, who don't know football." Finally i agree
On the other hand (point 5) i don't !! It's not Ligue 1 which will be famous it's Paris only. Any other club will be competitive in Europe ... Today and Tomorrow !!
"Except for Man city and Chelsea, no clubs of these types has won anything since the new owners are here." I don't know a lot of owners who use + 100M€ of their money to try to build a team (don't talk to me about these Jokes from Russia or China ...)
You say always the same thing "a club need money to start", but there is a difference between the shareholders who use their money (to try) to invest, and these guys from Qatar or Russia who only want to play. (In that cas, it's not a business ... Qatar maybe for their WC22)
For my last sentence, at the beginning it was just a joke (sad your lack of humor) but recently, look at the FIFA decision about the veil for women (for $$$ but quiet it's a secret)
Qatar's money has introduced religion in football, and it's just the beginning ...
Where is the football in there ?
2012-07-19 19:18:26
Lol porto's C1 was in 2004, versus fucking monaco who won against RM, that means nothing. Waouh C3 so hard to win for Porto...
"and Arsenal that went in Final in 2006" Arsenal was an epic club at this moment, it's not the management of the club which let them play in final.
"For Real Madrid it's different, they have debts too, but they generate enough profits to pay their creditors, so"
Every club generate a lot of profits, barcelona too, get yourself informed, they are actually almost in the same economical situation.
"I don't know a lot of owners who use + 100M€ of their money to try to build a team" Then where's the problem LOL.
"but there is a difference between the shareholders who use their money (to try) to invest, and these guys from Qatar or Russia who only want to play" It's exactly the same thing. Shareholders were just before them, that's all.
"For my last sentence, at the beginning it was just a joke (sad your lack of humor) but recently, look at the FIFA decision about the veil for women"
First of all it wasn't funny, I'm tired of these "jokes", for the veil story, even JO allowed them to wear a veil, it's about freedom, it doesn't hurt anyone (except you, acting like you were shocked by a fabric) they wouldn't play football or any sports if their hair are apparent, so by banning the veil, you take back their rights to play in an international event. That's helping, and the sport. "You have an awful vision of sport" It's applying to you atm.
"Qatar's money has introduced religion in football, and it's just the beginning ..." Well tell me what they'll do next ?
http://www.ybig.ie/forum/uploads/746/its-a-conspir..
"and Arsenal that went in Final in 2006" Arsenal was an epic club at this moment, it's not the management of the club which let them play in final.
"For Real Madrid it's different, they have debts too, but they generate enough profits to pay their creditors, so"
Every club generate a lot of profits, barcelona too, get yourself informed, they are actually almost in the same economical situation.
"I don't know a lot of owners who use + 100M€ of their money to try to build a team" Then where's the problem LOL.
"but there is a difference between the shareholders who use their money (to try) to invest, and these guys from Qatar or Russia who only want to play" It's exactly the same thing. Shareholders were just before them, that's all.
"For my last sentence, at the beginning it was just a joke (sad your lack of humor) but recently, look at the FIFA decision about the veil for women"
First of all it wasn't funny, I'm tired of these "jokes", for the veil story, even JO allowed them to wear a veil, it's about freedom, it doesn't hurt anyone (except you, acting like you were shocked by a fabric) they wouldn't play football or any sports if their hair are apparent, so by banning the veil, you take back their rights to play in an international event. That's helping, and the sport. "You have an awful vision of sport" It's applying to you atm.
"Qatar's money has introduced religion in football, and it's just the beginning ..." Well tell me what they'll do next ?
http://www.ybig.ie/forum/uploads/746/its-a-conspir..
2012-07-19 19:36:49
"Waouh C3 so hard to win for Porto."
Because the management of this club is good ... are you retarded or what ?
"Arsenal (...) it's not the management of the club which let them play in final."
Oh rly ? Teamplay, cohesive unit, formation ... it happened overnight ?
Barca/Real: For now ? you're wrong, just a fact !!
Veil: Liberty blablabla ... are u kidding me ?
"it doesn't hurt anyone" wow ... hard to read that.
Religion, it's (for me) something of inner to oneself. In the 90s, many champions have fought for their sport. I think of Boulmerka who won the gold medal in the 1500 meters for Algeria at the Olympics in Barcelona (1992 She ran in shorts, hair in the air, and has received death threats from religious fundamentalists. I feel that twenty years later, we're going in reverse, just sad.
ciao champion
Because the management of this club is good ... are you retarded or what ?
"Arsenal (...) it's not the management of the club which let them play in final."
Oh rly ? Teamplay, cohesive unit, formation ... it happened overnight ?
Barca/Real: For now ? you're wrong, just a fact !!
Veil: Liberty blablabla ... are u kidding me ?
"it doesn't hurt anyone" wow ... hard to read that.
Religion, it's (for me) something of inner to oneself. In the 90s, many champions have fought for their sport. I think of Boulmerka who won the gold medal in the 1500 meters for Algeria at the Olympics in Barcelona (1992 She ran in shorts, hair in the air, and has received death threats from religious fundamentalists. I feel that twenty years later, we're going in reverse, just sad.
ciao champion
2012-07-19 20:12:34
"Oh rly ? Teamplay, cohesive unit, formation ... it happened overnight ?" Wow, weren't you talking only about how they recruit and how they spend their money ?That's what you meant. Same answer for Porto.
"Barca/Real: For now ? you're wrong, just a fact !!" Nice argument, just saying that it is not, what I mean by economical situation, it's that they huge debts, but like every club they also have enough profits, so they don't mind.
"Liberty blablabla" You're narrowminded.
"Religion, it's (for me) something of inner to oneself" I think you just don't understand. In the quran, it's written that you have to cover your hair, that's all, so they have to do it, nothing more, it's not their goal to show to everyone that they are muslim.
I don't even know how you were able to insert religion in a football discussion.
"Barca/Real: For now ? you're wrong, just a fact !!" Nice argument, just saying that it is not, what I mean by economical situation, it's that they huge debts, but like every club they also have enough profits, so they don't mind.
"Liberty blablabla" You're narrowminded.
"Religion, it's (for me) something of inner to oneself" I think you just don't understand. In the quran, it's written that you have to cover your hair, that's all, so they have to do it, nothing more, it's not their goal to show to everyone that they are muslim.
I don't even know how you were able to insert religion in a football discussion.
2012-07-19 20:22:52
I know they have debts, so what ?They are still buying players, these debts are not new.
2012-07-18 23:06:36
+1
2012-07-18 23:34:02
Lol, the only german clubs without depts are Bayern, Dortmund and Wolfsburg.
2012-07-19 01:09:18
ofc but they dont have so high numbers as clubs from spain, italy or france
there is no risk for them because they are getting a decent + of money every season
there is no risk for them because they are getting a decent + of money every season
2012-07-19 12:34:10
Italy? tell me more, im outside of soccer, i know Roma have some debts (but i guess they are trying to do something)
other clubs?
other clubs?
2012-07-19 14:52:51
http://sportbild.bild.de/SPORT/fussball/internatio..
sorry this link is in german
all teams together 1,5 billions €
Inter Mailand – 335 Millionen Euro
Juventus Turin – 241,9 Millionen Euro
AC Mailand – 238,5 Millionen Euro
FC Genua – 119,2 Millionen Euro
Lazio Rom – 96,5 Millionen Euro
AS Rom – 77 Millionen Euro
Parma FC – 71,7 Millionen Euro
and more, but iam to lazy to copy ^^
Post edited 2012-07-19 15:05:06
sorry this link is in german
all teams together 1,5 billions €
Inter Mailand – 335 Millionen Euro
Juventus Turin – 241,9 Millionen Euro
AC Mailand – 238,5 Millionen Euro
FC Genua – 119,2 Millionen Euro
Lazio Rom – 96,5 Millionen Euro
AS Rom – 77 Millionen Euro
Parma FC – 71,7 Millionen Euro
and more, but iam to lazy to copy ^^
Post edited 2012-07-19 15:05:06
2012-07-19 15:04:39
Do not confuse debt and deficits
Debts are not a problem if you generate profits
Post edited 2012-07-19 15:13:26
Debts are not a problem if you generate profits
Post edited 2012-07-19 15:13:26
2012-07-19 15:11:33
but they become a problem if you continously generate less profits that debts.
2012-07-19 16:08:12
and thats called deficits
2012-07-19 18:38:29
ah, right, a terminology problem, sorry, english is not my first language. Well, thanks a lot for enlightening me.
2012-07-19 18:56:52
lol !!
2012-07-19 19:22:50
I think it's sad because now he doesn't want to play with and against the best anymore.
2012-07-18 22:41:15
ZlataN
2012-07-18 23:08:46
Bad for football, nice for PSG. End of story.
2012-07-18 23:25:01
bad for football ?Another big team which can compete versus the best in the world, but it's still bad for the football ?Tell me how other teams are poor :D
2012-07-18 23:27:32
agree
2012-07-19 01:10:08
So ,
He went to Ajax from his home team , then he went to Juventus , then to Inter , then to Barcelona , then to Milan , then to PSG , saying at every 1st interview x team that : It has always been my dream to play in this team since i was a child.
Nice faggot :D
He went to Ajax from his home team , then he went to Juventus , then to Inter , then to Barcelona , then to Milan , then to PSG , saying at every 1st interview x team that : It has always been my dream to play in this team since i was a child.
Nice faggot :D
2012-07-19 00:15:07
seriosly?:D
2012-07-19 00:45:58
yep , he said he always dreamed to play in those teams , and yesterday/today he said in a interview : playing to psg is another dream coming true...always the same shit , i bet he didnt even know what psg was before signing contract. he is a faggot
2012-07-19 00:47:39
Milan-fan :)
2012-07-19 00:59:11
Haha!
2012-07-19 01:27:31
i hate milan , he's always been a faggot , you can't denie that :)
2012-07-19 01:52:04
Zlatan and his family moves between Europes fashion metropols thats pretty much it but now to a better team. It doesnt matter Milan is the more legendary club and serie slightly higher status, ligue1 is pretty much equal to Serie-A these days. On list rankings, 4-place and 5-place leagues in the world, so..
2012-07-19 14:40:53
The fact the he is in a relationship with a human called Helena, i will denie your statement, cuz Helena is a G-I-R-L :) If you know what that is?:)
2012-07-19 14:51:49
Zlatan and HIS family (since he is an adult he can have kids family on his own, thats what he have, 2 kids together with Helena, wich makes them a family)
But obviously you cant read or just feel like trolling.
Read again - think again, or mb you dont know what brain is you cockloving animal(?) :)
ps: Girls(?) You mean real Women (?) - the only pussy of a woman you will ever see is your own mothers when she gave your birth.
Me vs tr0ll of Aghamn : 1 - 0
But obviously you cant read or just feel like trolling.
Read again - think again, or mb you dont know what brain is you cockloving animal(?) :)
ps: Girls(?) You mean real Women (?) - the only pussy of a woman you will ever see is your own mothers when she gave your birth.
Me vs tr0ll of Aghamn : 1 - 0
2012-07-19 15:54:29
Dude, did not even reply to you .. Seriously, kids these days :)
2012-07-19 17:06:25
"nice" tr0llinK but doesnt bite on, cuz i bite back 10 times harder.
Seriously, tr0llkidz these days :) cl_brain_0
Seriously, tr0llkidz these days :) cl_brain_0
2012-07-19 23:05:27
"It has always been my dream to play in this team since i was a child."
I saw all his interview since he is in Paris, he said "it's a dream came true" but he doesn't say that he was dreaming to play at PSG since he was a kid.
Every players say such a thing.
Post edited 2012-07-19 01:05:38
I saw all his interview since he is in Paris, he said "it's a dream came true" but he doesn't say that he was dreaming to play at PSG since he was a kid.
Every players say such a thing.
Post edited 2012-07-19 01:05:38
2012-07-19 00:55:50
Yeah, haha.
"I've never really wanted to play for PSG, but now I guess I have to." - Zlatan Ibrahimovic
"I've never really wanted to play for PSG, but now I guess I have to." - Zlatan Ibrahimovic
2012-07-19 01:28:32
So we have : "it's a dream came true" and "I've never really wanted to play for PSG, but now I guess I have to."
link for the second one btw pls :D
link for the second one btw pls :D
2012-07-19 01:30:09
Haha, no, I mean, you always say those things when you sign with a new club. How it's a dream come true and that you are really happy to be there. You even said it yourself: "Every players say such a thing." :)
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Post edited 2012-07-19 01:33:44
2012-07-19 01:33:27
Good for him ofc, 13M per season... but professionaly its really bad.
2012-07-19 01:22:23
All about money bro.
2012-07-19 03:13:14
Only care if Ibra goes to Porto!
2012-07-19 02:21:05
What Mino Raiola (Zlatan's Agent) has to comment about the transfer.
Salary, UEFA, etc.
http://www.fotbollskanalen.se/andra-ligor/tv-zlata..
Salary, UEFA, etc.
http://www.fotbollskanalen.se/andra-ligor/tv-zlata..
2012-07-19 12:02:24
that's why I'm following rugby now and don't even take care much about football nowadays.
Money and sports don't share the same values/ethics and shouldn't be that much correlated
Money and sports don't share the same values/ethics and shouldn't be that much correlated
2012-07-19 12:17:32
i once read that REAL MADRID is the dream club for him. I think that Mou should've gave him a chance...
2012-07-19 12:20:20
In next season transfer to Malaga or Machachakallalala or something like this
2012-07-19 14:55:00
ibra is a storm in market transfers , he moved like 190M in total transferences , i think psg politicy wont have sucess this year in europe , they starting to get a galatic team , with so much big egos...together
2012-07-19 19:00:03
http://9gag.com/gag/4804070
2012-07-20 00:15:21
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