you, 16years old, u knows everything about cs lololollolollolollll

I agree with coachi, before NaVi, the most successful team in Ukrain was A-Gaming, leaded by starix and they didn't grab a major 1st place. There was Virtus.Pro too in Russia, but they never took an expressive major title either, like NaVi did before.

they had a name in CS before ..yeah...don't expect anyone to know about them...

FYI: they are just annoying you...don't bother :)
Is like "i am a football fun. I watch every World Championship"; and in my mind i expect to know everything about football...

k1ck ? never won major title. NaVi did several times, CLOSE THREAD.

wut? he never said that they weren't good players, but without having sponsors to make the conditions that they had they would never reach this level, not even close. it's not an offense to na'vi or something, they have some of the best players in the world, but without support to make them actually live as pro-gamer, what they archived was impossible.

That Coachi guy is worse than ceh9 or Delpan. He is trashtalker. And newb at his job/work (CS).

coachi? low player

Post edited 2012-08-01 17:19:49

dont listen to coachi only thing he does is trashtalking about other teams and he doesnt see that his team is not even close to the topteams, and about navi guys markeloff played in DTS/HELLRAISERS which were really really good, Edward played in VirtusPro/pro100/HELLRAISERS which were also really good team, Zeus too, starix played in A-Gaming which were also a really good team, ceh9? idk he played i guess in pro100 or something like that, at the end all of these teams were like 10-20 times better than k1ck (that was my point) k1ck didnt achieve shit and coachi still thinks he is in one of the most skilled teams in the world..

Post edited 2012-08-01 17:22:04

And why are you so mad? I bet you got raped by them in some tournament.

This video is epic, on the negative way, because it's hard to count how many bullshit he says here. He's one of the biggest douches of the history of this game.

You probably didnt understand what he was trying to say...
As you probably know , esports in Portugal aren't so strong like in other countrys in Europe... We have 1 or 2 top teams in 1.6 (k1ck , ex-defs)... And they dont get their salary to play... That is like a hobby for them , because if they want to go in a tournament in other country they need to invest with their own money ( I think that K1ck dont pay the travels now) .. But its basically that that he is saying...
Probably none of us would now Navi or ESC (etc) if they didnt have people paying them to play Counter-Strike...

(sorry for bad english)

"we got a team that is one of most skilled teams in the world."

my reaction -> xD

yes u are the best and delta beat you in easy mode :D

coachi is the biggest fail of 2012.

x6tence players or other minor teams dont have salary either and they have beat k1ck many times. Excuses are for pussies, show some potencial in regular basis and you may get rewarded for the hard work,

coachi is always saying bullshit that is amazing :) he has a good team but always talking nonsens is not helping them :(

Coachi doesn't know what he says
He thinks that he is owner of the truth
Bullshit man

It seems living in the Portugal really affects on coachi

GH,PLAYART>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>K1CK

Portuguese:

Os DTS e VP eram e são bons, não haja dúvida. Mas o que o coachi está a dizer é que antes de lhes ser dada aquela oportunidade dada pelos sponsors da organização dos Na`Vi de "ok, escolhem 5 jogadores, nós damos equipamento, damos um apartamento, boa internet, e salário e vocês prometem-nos resultados contra os melhores" A-Gaming, pro100, DTS, VP, com todo o respeito, mas nunca na vida todas essas equipas chegaram à qualidade que os Na`Vi mostraram em 2010/2011. Os jogadores dos Na`Vi deixaram de ficar em fases de grupos/início dos play-offs e de um momento para o outro dominavam completamente o jogo contra gigantes como os fnatic, SK, ex-Frag eXecutors. Todo esse domínio seria impossível se tais condições não lhes fossem oferecidas. E é isso que o coachi está a salientar: se condições dessas fossem dadas a 5 jogadores portugueses, aos K1CK neste caso, acredito que eles lutassem mais e que podessem chegar cada vez mais perto do pódio. Comparo agora as condições que os K1CK têm, versus as condições que poderiam ter se a mesma oportunidade que foi dada aos Na`Vi lhes fosse dada (SALÁRIO: acho que é indiscutível, os K1CK são semi-profissionais e o dinheiro que lhes é pago não serve para tudo, como ele salientou na entrevista. Já os Na`Vi são profissionais e moram todos juntos, à excepção do starix que mora com a namorada penso. A organização deve pagar-lhes a renda e o essencial, e o dinheiro que eles recebem deve chegar e sobrar para os extras; Internet: outro ponto incomparável, os K1CK jogam com uma net “normal” (ping 15-30 em Portugal) e situam-se na ponta da Europa, onde até a jogar contra os vizinhos da Espanha têm ping de 50-60. Vejamos se alguma vez na vida, fnatic, SK, Na`Vi jogam com pings maiores que 50-60… Por outro lado, os Na`Vi são da Ucrânia, bem mais no núcleo da Europa que Portugal, logo há uma maior facilidade em jogar com pings baixos. Enquanto que os jogadores portugueses têm pings de 50-60 na Espanha, os Na`Vi têm pings de 15-20 na Alemanha, Suécia, Dinamarca, o que torna o seu treino mais variado e com boas condições. Como o coachi já disse numa entrevista, com 60-70 de ping a jogar com pessoal que tem 20 de ping não dá para ver as tácticas que entram, o que dá, o que não dá. Isto torna o trabalho muito mais difícil, pois a sua única oportunidade para jogar em condições decentes são em LAN’s, para as quais o treino é ineficaz devido a problemas de ping. Poderia continuar com esta comparação, mas penso que já tornei o meu ponto sólido). Se um Arbalet pegasse nos K1CK e lhes desse condições para eles treinarem no centro da Europa, acredito que os K1CK passassem a lutar para lugares perto do pódio, pois eles com o pouco tempo que lhes resta na vida pessoal (fox e axon trabalham, coachi, mutt e rmn estudam acho) e com o pouco treino que têm, devido à incompatibilidade de horários entre escola-trabalho, não dá para grandes campanhas “lá fora”.
O problema penso que está na equipa. Não sei se segues muito os K1CK e o cs português, mas na minha opinião, rmn e mutt não resultam a nível internacional. Antes valia irem SHOUW e ehz que são jogadores mais maduros e que lidam melhor com as situações que o mutt e o rmn, em nível internacional. Os K1CK têm skill, não há dúvida, e caso boas condições lhes fossem oferecidas, eles não as iriam desperdiçar e lutavam, sem dúvida alguma, não por um top 3, mas talvez por um top 10.



English

DTS and VP were and are good, no doubt. But what coachi is saying is that before being given that opportunity by Na`Vi sponsors, like: "Okay, pick five players, we give them equipment, we give them a flat, good internet, and you promise give us results against the best". A-Gaming, PRO100, DTS, VP, with all the due respect, but never in this world all these teams reached the quality that Na` Vi showed in 2010/2011. Na `Vi players no longer stayed in group stage / beginning of the play-offs (unlike when in VP, etc.) and from a moment to another they completely dominated matches against giants such as fnatic, SK, former Frag eXecutors. This whole domination would be impossible if these conditions were not offered to them. And that is what coachi is talking about: if these conditions were given to five Portuguese players, to K1CK this case, I believe they would fight more and that they could get near the podium. Now let’s compare the conditions that K1CK have versus the conditions that would have if the same opportunity that was given to Na`Vi was given to them (SALARY: I think it is indisputable, K1CK are semi-professionals and the money they are paid does not pay everything, as he stated in the interview. Na `Vi are professionals and live together, except starix who lives with his girlfriend I think. The organization pays them the income and the essential, and the money they receive should come and be left for the extras; Internet: another point incomparable: K1CK’s play online with a "normal" internet (15-30 ping in Portugal) and are situated on the edge of Europe, where even against our neighbors Spain they have 50-60 ping. Let's see if fnatic, SK, Na `Vi would ever play with pings higher than 50-60... On the other hand, Na`Vi are from Ukraine, closer to Europe’s core than Portugal, where they play with low pings. While the Portuguese players have pings of 50-60 in Spain, Na `Vi have pings of 15-20 in Germany, Sweden, Denmark, which makes your practise more varied and in better condition, making you better prepared. As coachi once said in an interview: playing with pings at 70 against players with pings at 20, we can’t see the tactics that go, what works, what does not. This makes the job much more difficult, because their only opportunity to play in decent conditions are in international LAN's, and as I stated, the training is ineffective due to ping problems. How can a team that can’t practice properly win anything at an international scale. I could continue this comparison, but I think my point has become solid). If an Arbalet started sponsoring K1CK and give them conditions to train in the center of Europe against the best, I believe that K1ck would fight for higher places in tournaments. With the little time they have left in their life (Fox and axon work, coachi , mutt and rmn study, I think) and the little training they have, due to the mismatch between school-work hours, you cannot expect big journeys "abroad".
I think the problem is on the team. I don’t know if you follow K1CK and Portuguese scene, but in my opinion, rmn and mutt don’t work at international level. SHOUW and ehz are players who are more mature and deal better with situations that mutt and rmn, internationally. K1CK have skill, no doubt, and if they were offered good conditions, they were not going to waste and they would fight, certainly not for a top 3, but maybe a top 10.




Sorry for any error in the english version. This was supposed to be a youtube comment, but this got extended :D

Nzr0 is the guy who has been raped on portugal that's why he hates portugal 2much.. and tbhonest he says that he has been playing with several skilleds players in ukraine.. and he says he can beat k1ck.. a player that doesnt know what a lan is.. LOL LOL LMAO he doesnt know how to play and still talks like he knows how to play its funny quite funny now GTFO Nzr0 faggot

Post edited 2012-08-01 21:09:19

all the team ad personal problems at the time

Just look at DELTA they lost almost every online match and placed 4th at GameGune. They dont have "A" conditions and they were still able to compete against top teams. They didnt say any shit like they are going to destroy everybody.

Not this retarded kid again. It's amazing that a kid that lived in Portugal has so much hates towards portugese people. You only started trashtalking Portugal after you went back to that 3rd world country you call Ukraine, perhaps you didn't trashtalked when you were in Portugal because you were afraid of being bullied, or you actually were. ahah

and what's the point of making this thread? Bash the Portuguese community even more?

hahahaha, reading those k1ck fanboyz comments makes me rly think that portuguese are retarded in general

portugal guys have fame of stupid :s

Nzr0 the man of the mixs with Kerchnet, gogo TOP. AHAHAHAHA

Coachi FAIL, and just ....good capitan never will say " We are best team " he will say "...it's a game and every team can win"....cause is , in Portugal k1ck win all tournaments but how they never play with others teams (navi,fnatic,esc,sk,...) obviously they will always losers, because K1ck is team number one (1st) in portugal and they habituate to win, but in Europe is not a reality, if they try participate in International tournaments more times , in future K1ck can be TOP10....and K1ck need to do decision cs or job/teach, obviously if they want evolution in this game.

if Im wrong....sorry, its my opinion (bad English i know)

i love the language. Btw, coachi has some point ^^

nzro retarded

ahahahahahaha LMFAO ...
sure he got one of the most skilled teams in the world , after 70~80 teams.. k1ck top80 world CONGRATULATIONS.!

Your hatred towards Portugal amazes me.

The polish guys have the same situation years ago, and they are was able to stay in the top. Coachi still whining

sorry for my shit fucking grammar

as a team they were nothing at first, so he is right about that ...

nobody likes you Artur deal with it kid

just a trol kid, normal...

What u nzr0 and many ppl dont understand,is that u are the same shit just as coachi,a bad atitude is a bad atitude,who u are to judge and call ppl names,if coachi flamed navi or pain,u flamed coachi,and i flame u,and someone will flame me for flaming u,and someone else will flame the guy that flamed me because i flamed u,and in the end we will make a big big chain of flaming but we will realise that we are all brother,ive seen ur future,being gay married with a portuguess guy,ACCEPT IT.

The only good player coming forth from Portugal is fox. It did not even have a promising team at all and this guy is talking about sponsoring and getting paid a regular salary for gaming? This is bullshit.

LOL All my posts were deleted. Good job HLTV, deleting my coments, yet let flame threads roll and retarded kids like Nzro open rage threads. ;)

You're doin' it right, then be suprised when cadred.org flames this site for being full of fuck and mad fankids.

Good advertisement for k1ck, this stupid fuking threads created by nolifers, that will creat unnecessary flame wars.

Why bother and listen to this guy and portuguese people (not all of them, 99%) they said before GG that they had all the best players in Portugal and still they got raped in GroupStage and most portguese before the match said that Delta had no chance vs k1ck but guess what they beat k1ck two times. He cant be talking about NaVi who won everything in 2010 and alot of titles after that all coachi won was some mini-lan tournaments in Portugal.

He should think passing group stage :/

+1111111111 #244

this k1ck is a huge joke, they have never achieved anything and they never will. especially fox thinks he's a celebrity. k1ck is not even top50 even when cs is dead, any semi-pro swedish team can beat k1ck.

omg, everyone can talk such bullshit, just don't waste your time on some "coachies"

Cs is dead.
Coachi = trashtalker
Stfu

Wait, did he just compare Na'Vi With K1CK ? Don't get me wrong Na'Vi was made of players from different teams just like Na'Vi, but that was a different time, and Na'Vi practiced very hard b4 promising the fans of anything.

who published this post in Portuguese to even realize what this video reveals, is the intrevista coachi where it was interogado K1ck could be a top team like fnatic Navi, etc.. coachi and responded with a question "Who was the Navi before having an opportunity to train with xelentes pings, pcs, etc, anyone now what are ALL" That's what was said coachi taking it as a compliment and a way to dixer that K1ck make the most of it can not all the players lot of work is a dedication to the cs team are playing because they like the game, but clearly their goal and be as much as they can.