CSS players joining HLTV.org
So, with CS:GO out (almost) and HLTV.org deciding to be the main portal / home for CS:GO too, a lot of CSS players are joining HLTV.org with their streams (adreN, mx, etc) and the 1.6 pros (n0thing, GeT_RiGhT, etc) are also doing their CS:GO streams here.

I think this is the first sign ever, of a CS website uniting both 1.6 and source players for CS:GO.

Congrats HLTV.org for the initiative!

<3 HLTV!!!
(130 replies)
Created 2012-08-15 18:25 by: b1n3
hltv = cs :)
2012-08-15 18:27:31
and CS was only 1.6... but now...
2012-08-15 18:40:20
money
2012-08-15 18:49:35
+1
2012-08-18 19:16:56
its never was just for 1.6 wake up!!!!
2012-08-15 20:36:27
LOOOL?
2012-08-18 12:35:23
It was always for cs 1.6
2012-08-18 19:25:59
wat
2012-08-19 14:10:46
by: mikep
#3
HLTV.org is the home of competitive Counter-Strike.
It will always be like that.
2012-08-15 18:29:37
by: n0vaP
#6
CS:GO + HLTV.org = AWESOME COMBO! =D
2012-08-15 18:33:36
CS 1.6 + HLTV.org AWSOME COMBO!=D but no CS:GO
2012-08-18 10:59:51
shhhhhhhh!

the 1.6 police will hear us
2012-08-15 18:39:35
welcome sourcers :)
2012-08-15 18:52:45
welcome???????
2012-08-15 19:08:50
welcome
[wel-kuhm] interjection, noun, verb, welcomed, welcoming, adjective
interjection
1.
(a word of kindly greeting, as to one whose arrival gives pleasure): Welcome, stranger!

Post edited 2012-08-15 19:17:55
2012-08-15 19:16:21
nice joke, but you understood me. i'm sure! ;D
2012-08-15 19:18:05
Yeah, welcome
2012-08-18 22:07:50
This game it's like a revolution for the community, but i don't how the gameplay is, i don't have the game but i think is a bit weird
2012-08-15 18:59:15
You mean CSS?
CSS gameplay > CS:GO gameplay
2012-08-18 12:08:42
no, i didn't play CS:GO, i played 1.6 and CS:S :) and i like both =)
2012-08-18 18:47:59
I just said CSS > CS:GO

facepalm
2012-08-18 21:30:46
+1 1.6 gameplay > GO gameplay too :p
2012-08-20 22:01:09
tbh i never played go, but probably one of the few games that i look at videos and streams, and i say "what a shity game" i hope the next updates emprove the game
2012-08-15 19:06:35
by: sMB-
#26
It is a fun game to play. Have more of an open mind. Don't expect it to be 1.6. I hope the next post you make you improve your spelling. ;)
2012-08-15 19:28:21
don't expect to as i i'm not a traductor, neither work with people who speak english lol my english is good enough to talk to gamers,
2012-08-15 19:37:16
by: sMB-
#33
you did good I was just giving you shit :D
2012-08-15 19:50:09
well it's not bad it the context of graphics and fun...

but playing as a competitive game, I honestly say that it sucks :x
2012-08-15 19:52:37
lol XD
2012-08-15 20:29:36
sad
2012-08-15 19:07:43
Yes after 8 long years of 1.6 websites despising Source players, or anyone who switched, it's about time.

Amazing stuff.
2012-08-15 19:22:32
Dude, don't be crazy, the users will keep thinking you and _most_ (that means not every single one of you) of your Sauce pals are clowns who couldn't and didn't make it in 1.6.

CS:GO is not made for CSS players, you still are part of the minority and over time you will represent even less.
2012-08-15 19:46:35
LMAO.

And yet various CSS players DID make it in 1.6. Really just get a grip dude, keep hating on CS:GO and saying it doesnt have a future.

"CS:GO is not made for CSS players" <== That is such a great line, when you of all people have been slating CSGO for being CSS2... LMAO, amazing dribble you come out with.
2012-08-15 19:48:56
GO is more like Source than 1.6 ( and I'm talking about gameplay )
2012-08-15 19:53:52
Wasn't saying the contrary, I was merely stating that dbie is so hypocritical and sits there making arguments to suit his own belief.
2012-08-15 20:06:01
lol, what CSS player made it in 1.6? GuardiaN?

and please... don't mention retired 1.6 players like rambo or sunman who are currently playing css, they are not originally css players.
2012-08-15 19:56:51
So we are to forget some of the original 1.6 players like myself who switched from 1.6 to Source in late 2004?

Majority of us who still play Source, played 1.6 before Source.

If you refer to the true "Source" players, why would they switch at such a silly stage, and also why switch to a game which as we can see ISPs from more established countries struggle to help a players development, why no top teams in your game from Germany, France, UK, USA etc etc?
2012-08-15 20:09:26
hahahah, not a single css player made it in 1.6 then, not even zet who played css for a while only to return to 1.6 playing way under his level.

Btw, I will feel pity for the CSS players when the 1.6 legends clean the floor with them, they even won't be able to win the 10k tournaments they got used to win.

Post edited 2012-08-15 20:18:03
2012-08-15 20:16:17
hahahaha so funny.......

Moron.
2012-08-15 20:18:36
:)
2012-08-15 20:21:21
It's a shame though, as that it won't happen.
2012-08-15 20:23:05
everything suggests it will, otherwise we would've had some css teams competing in the biggest FPS eSport in the last 12 years (which is 1.6 :D).

Post edited 2012-08-15 20:26:56
2012-08-15 20:26:37
Your logic is completely flawed.
2012-08-15 20:31:45
not if you take into consideration the price money and the number of big events difference between 1.6 and CSS.

Post edited 2012-08-15 20:33:51
2012-08-15 20:33:23
RattlesnK | 6 days ago [2012-08-09 09:52:41] Reply

I'll probably play CSGO for a while and see if the competition/salary/prizes make it a worthwhile game to play and if it doesn't I'll probably end up quiting competitive gaming. I tend to have too many things to do to be able to properly compete properly but if it was worthwhile I may prioritise CS practice over some other areas. I think its difficult to have a normal job, a life, and also be the best in your CS genre as I doubt you will have time for all three unless you find five exceptional players. Its fair enough winning the odd event with that system but to consistently do it would pose a much harder challenge...

As for not going back to 1.6 I did think about it but to be honest you need financial backing, plenty of hours free, and the teammates to do you justice in that particular game. For me none of these options were viable so I decided to remain in CSS where it was possible to turn up to a tournament and get a top placement with very little practice if at all... I think in 1.6 where you had a number of professional teams who play all day it would of been difficult to get amongst the top3 at events. Granted in CSS you have professional teams but I think the only ones with a bit of work ethic were VG, the others were a joke when you think about it.


Anyhow, in CSGO we have a decent org behind us atm so we are poised to try our best at the start and see where it takes us! I've been doing a work placement for the last month but I'll be back on Sunday and we will start casually practicing I think.

In case anyone wondered we won't be going to iseries as mouz want us to focus our time and practice on CSGO to make sure we have enough time to prepare ourselves for its release and upcoming tournaments. If it was our choice we would probably have gone as we felt we could of been ready within 2 weeks of practice but sadly it wasn't to be. I hope the next time we go to a LAN will be for ESWC where we can see what everyone is made of in CSGO!

Thats from RattlesnK on why he and his team mates didn't switch back when they had the chance to. A case probably worth noting for most top teams.
2012-08-15 20:46:38
well the top CSS player himself says it that the competition in 1.6 was a lot fiercer and better.
2012-08-18 11:54:43
+1
2012-08-18 12:30:22
isnt this guy the best Source awper who got owned by f0rest ?
2012-08-18 12:27:03
why would source teams enter a 1.6 tournament? can you please make some sense.


2012-08-15 20:33:29
money
2012-08-15 20:34:18
Dbie you should log out seriously :D
2012-08-16 01:27:33
you should start ignoring me if you won't be able to start a discussion.
2012-08-16 01:30:56
Try RL for a bit, it wont hurt :)) I swear!!!
2012-08-16 01:33:27
hah, you should take your own advices.
2012-08-16 01:52:21
Um...
1. The UK never got an international top team (even before CSS's release).
2. Germany was always in the top5 till 2011 and the most successful years were after CSS's release.
3. France never had a long-time top team. There were always 1-2 good french teams (which won some tournaments from time to time), but they were never on the top. Can't see any difference between the time before CSS and the time after CSS.


Check the statistics:

http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=135&userid=62854

The top-teams Germany had were legendary. Can't say this about any German CSS team. Same goes for the players.

The point is: CSS got less international competition. There are a lot of strong CS countries where people simply never switched to CSS (like Sweden, Poland, Ukraine and Russia) and there were always less international tournaments than in 1.6.


Post edited 2012-08-15 21:15:07
2012-08-15 21:04:11
1. 4Kings were regarded as one of the best 1.6 teams in the world at one point.
2. Wasn't disputing that, I was merely stating a point of why established countries like the UK, France, Germany, USA don't have many top teams in 1.6, it is down to the fact that the way 1.6's netcode is, is that countries such as the whole of Eastern Europe/Russia/India have much better connection online.
3. See above comment.

"Can't say this about any German CSS Team"... I distinctly remember mTw teaching a few people a lesson or two in Source at one very British iSeries back in 2007. The problem with the whole of the German scene is up until now, they have been very isolated, they have great success domestically at LAN events, yet fail to deliver the goods at a top LAN.

"The point is: CSS got less international competition", with strong domestic scenes such as USA, Canada, Denmark, Brazil, Australia, UK, France, Germany, Portugal, yeah, less is there?

If you want to fight fire with fire then go for it buddy.
2012-08-15 23:59:10
1. Wrong. The 4Kings were never a top team. In fact the only thing they managed to win was a 3rd place at WEG. You don't believe me? Check the statistics above.
The reason why the 4Kings were an international known team was because they dominated the UK for a long time, the attended on a lot of tournaments and they did a very good job when it came to present their team (everyone saw the legendary 4Kings movie).

2. Bullshit at its best. How in the name of god should 1.6's netcode help eastern countries to succeed?!? That's the most idiotic thing I've ever read on this website and this website is full of idiotic comments. Look at Poland: The golden five lose almost every online game, but their success on LAN made them to one of the best teams (or even the best team) of all time. East-European teams are known to be way stronger on LAN than online.
Germany was always in the top5 and France had always 1-2 strong teams. USA had some trouble due the fact that many of their former progamers switched to CSS for a short period and when they came back they had a hard time competing with Europe's teams, who improved a lot (though lurppis US team won some decent tournaments). But at this time they were still way more successful than any UK ever was. Don't search for stupid excuses to explain UK's lack of success.

The name of mTw raised up with a legendary German CS team in 2000/2001. But what made mTw a legendary name in the international scene was the Danish team from 2008+. zonic and his team made mTw the respected clan every CS fan know and every time people hear the name mTw they will remember tose legendary Danish players like Sunde, trace, MJE, .. the whole CSS thing was a side-event.


"The problem with the whole of the German scene is up until now, they have been very isolated, they have great success domestically at LAN events, yet fail to deliver the goods at a top LAN."

Wtf...

Hope you're talking about CSS...
Regarding 1.6 this is pure bullshit.


"USA, Canada, Denmark, Brazil, Australia, UK, France, Germany, Portugal, yeah, less is there?"

Except Australia and the UK all the listed Countries are known for having great 1.6 teams, but where are the strong Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Korean and Chinese CSS teams?

Post edited 2012-08-16 00:59:15
2012-08-16 00:48:28
I think you completely miss my points, and have completely lost focus on what game I was talking about.

I will leave it at that.
2012-08-16 01:01:37
You got owned, this is the point here.
2012-08-19 01:17:52
u just raped him publicly!
2012-08-16 01:21:22
Sorry, have to double comment:

Your post made me mad. Why the fuck do you think "mousesports" and "aTTax" are so legendary names? Who made "mTw" to an international well known clan-name?
The German 1.6 teams are the reasons for these big names. Stop talking bullshit.


Post edited 2012-08-15 21:14:08
2012-08-15 21:12:17
Just to come back at you for this point, the reason why such names came around, was because which game was first, just remind me.... oh yeah CS1.6. Not really an amazing point you have to offer your already weak argument.
2012-08-16 00:00:00
I grew up with these German clans, which are known as one of the bests in the world, and reading a comment like "why no top teams in your game from Germany" from a Brit is just fucking ridiculous.

2012-08-16 00:58:08
frod, storm, warden, zet, rttlesnake and so many more.
2012-08-15 21:08:36
frod, storm, warden and zet are 1.6 players who "made it" in CSS (although they just played CSS for a very short period).
He was talking about CSS players who made it in 1.6. Can't think of anyone who came from CSS to 1.6 and "made it".
rattlesnake? Wtf...he came from 1.6 to CSS but he never "made it" in 1.6. Never won any international tournament in 1.6. He didn't even reach any final.



Post edited 2012-08-15 21:53:30
2012-08-15 21:50:31
oh sorry! my mistake :)
2012-08-15 21:53:04
The problem with this statement, is that you and pretty much everyone else that has made similar statements, haven't made it in 1.6 either... Its kind of like an amateur footballer making fun of a pro rugby player because they couldn't make it in football.

Fear not tho, with all the good 1.6 players switching to go, you might actually have a chance of "Making it" on 1.6.

Post edited 2012-08-15 20:05:12
2012-08-15 20:04:53
I've been retired for a while now and who says I won't support the 1.6 players who do switch/keep playing? hahah you're delusional if you think the CSS scene has won anything with the 1.6 players switching to a new game.

CSGO is not your game, the 1.6 players will dominate CSGO in no time and what people will remember from the past is 1.6 history, not some CSS 10k events.

btw, I feel pretty successful for what I've invested in the game.

Post edited 2012-08-15 20:14:29
2012-08-15 20:14:02
It won't be 1.6 players dominating Source players, it will be CS:GO players dominating CS:GO players. A joint community is good for everyone, source player, or 1.6 player, and I think you will find we all have a lot more in common than we care to admin.
2012-08-15 20:23:50
I've never said anything about CSS scene "winning". I've played CS more than i've played CSS, im a counterstrike fan, not some delusional fanboy with "<3 ESC Gaming" in my name.

I've given each version of CS a chance (Even CS:CZ) since 1.3 and GO will be no different. I don't care who the best teams are, and from what game they've come from, i know for a fact it won't be me so it doesn't matter a whole deal.. as long as there are tournaments that i can watch and enjoy, im happy.

Post edited 2012-08-15 20:40:26
2012-08-15 20:40:07
LoL, I'm a fan of lots of teams including fnatic, kerchnet, navi and of course ESC. What I don't like is casualized games being treated like proper sequels, to me neither CSS nor CS:GO in its current form are proper 1.6 replacements and are too casualized and not meant for competitions with too many random aspects featured in its gameplay.



Post edited 2012-08-16 01:15:23
2012-08-16 01:14:06
for me the suprising fact is the online count on steam, cs:go beta release didnt change numbers of 1.6 steam players at all, it lowered css numbers for not more than a few thousands, which means atm there are 47k + 37k + 30k = 114k and before 14th it was almost impossible to hit 100k with both 1.6 and css, ofc there are over9000 1.6 non steam players but dunno how many exactly
2012-08-15 19:34:11
Exactly my thought. Proves that NEW players and Sauceers are playing more CS:GO than 1.6ers.
2012-08-15 19:49:21
or that many old 1.6 and css players got bored of their games and they wouldn't play if there wasn't smth new
2012-08-15 19:58:29
Ive always been a 1.6 guy, but ths cs:go thing is really making me understand how narrowminded and afraid of change 1.6ers are. Most lack any basic manners when it comes to online discussions, its kinda pathetic really. This community really needs a lot of new people coming into it to balance out the assholes.
2012-08-15 19:55:11
absolutely
2012-08-15 19:59:57
doesnt change the fact that at the moment GO is no way near as good as 1.6 and probably wont be in the future either. still gonna give it a good try but from the few minutes of playing so far im not impressed

Post edited 2012-08-15 20:15:15
2012-08-15 20:14:01
1.6er's just knows a shit game when we see one. if we are narrowminded, then you guys are blind.
2012-08-15 20:39:08
1.6 isnt the only good game ever made, dude. I like the game just as much as you do and probably played it 2x as much as you, but I dont let it blind me to good qualities in other games as well. who is really blind here?
2012-08-15 20:51:20
by: hohi
#46
hltv's streaming thingy is really nice. Cadred has a random streaming panel which doesnt show what stream is live or anything and hltv is always up to date with the news so its great site for new players.
2012-08-15 20:05:15
+1 are you new to this site mate?
2012-08-15 21:16:29
by: hohi
#86
no -.-
2012-08-15 21:20:59
Hail Nomad
2012-08-18 12:29:52
by: JmKz
#48
I tried it tonight and it has made improvement but not even close enough. The recoil is finally close to right BUT the actual shooting is very very stiff. Also some of the guns are still overpowered. The movement needs still improvement because it doesn't seem fluent can't do any trickery (maybe cos of multi-platform -.-). Flashbang is made pretty well but throwing the grenades is kinda annoying in many ways. Some map design are fine but de_nuke is kinda ridiculous because for example you can run in VENTS :o (Source, not dissing source thought because I play it also along side 1.6). I am just not sure if they can make the game playable and fun before releasing. I hope they make more improvements, at least valve is now making it pretty close what it should be. But despite all the hopes, I think we should play CSP or to be made a CS 2 since valve said that the CS:GO isn't really made for competitive scene, and I can pretty much see that. I am hoping the best for counter-strike's future :).
2012-08-15 20:07:14
Of course it's not perfect now.. more patches will follow in the future, don't worry. Other than back then when Source was released Valve is actually listening to the players nowadays.
2012-08-15 20:38:33
I'd say its a lot closer to being ready than CSS was anyway. Even a year or two after release and CSS was worse than how CS:GO is atm, hopefully its good enough not to leave a bad taste in peoples mouths like CSS done for a lot of 1.6'ers (Who then refused to try it again.. even tho its almost perfect at this stage).
2012-08-15 20:43:00
by: JmKz
#76
I will try the game few months later when I will also get a brand new computer. For me, it's not that playable yet. Luckily this is only the beta but I'm actually more pumped for shootmania. The sad thing is that I am still trying to save up money for a new computer so I can't buy that game yet.
2012-08-15 20:54:05
kind of true yes. i played css when it first came out. i was very excited to try it, but was disappointed. and i didn't play it at all for hmm around 5 years or so. and when i finally tried it again i still felt like it wasn't really that great. i've played it occasionally since that and quite enjoyed it as well. haven't played a lot but it is fun for change. "almost perfect" is however not the way i would describe it :s
2012-08-16 16:52:37
welcom css players
2012-08-15 20:07:21
I think were gonna have a nice ONE community in a very long time
2012-08-15 20:12:54
by: Mizk
#64
Well, first of all im happy, they joined Us, HLTV.org home of CS, even when most of people here dont like GO. For me its better to see my favourite player still playing on tournaments where someone will still know about them, instead of retire. CS:GO seems pretty cool for spectator, i havent played it and probly wont. I feel happy cuz of community is growing :)

Hello Sourcers! :)
2012-08-15 20:33:46
u guys really look around u just see 1.6 news? no , hltv.org support always all cs scene wake up!
2012-08-15 20:38:24
Welcome bitches , HAVE A NICE DAY !
2012-08-15 20:48:15
by: Pus - HLTV.org
#77
I hope we'll get to see more CSS players around here, but I'm afraid they'll be rather reluctant with the CS 1.6 community having shunned them for years. It's a shame really. Many of them have experience and knowledge about the CSS scene, which the CS 1.6 community could learn from in regards to CS:GO.

Post edited 2012-08-15 20:57:10
2012-08-15 20:56:37
I honestly cant believe the animosity from 1.6ers still exists 7ish years later after css came out. I quit playing/following cs for a while after source was released because that game sucked and the community became so toxic. AFter 1.6 CLEARLY won out as the more popular and compeittive game over the years, youd think 1.6ers would show a little humbleness about the game getting older and less popular. Instead they treat this situation like they did 1.6 vs source, when is reality it is not the same situation at all.
2012-08-15 21:01:40
by: Pus - HLTV.org
#79
I completely agree.
2012-08-15 21:02:18
dude those cs players are 16-17 y.o. and playing cs for 4-5 years. they form their opinions from the comments of others be it pro players or some random hater. also the only image they have of source players is that of some trolls bitching on hltv / carded. Imo it's not the fault of the 1.6ers nor css-ers it's valves fault for ripping apart the community with a game/games (css-csgo) that don't deserve the name of counter-strike. It's just not the cs which everyone loves and grew up with.Therefor many feel dissapointed,betrayed and channel their rage towards others. Why didn't the community fall apart in sc1-sc2,the diablo series? Even if those games differ a lot they still got the feel and gameplay of the previous ones that's why.
2012-08-16 00:18:26
I honestly don't understand all the hate of 1.6 fans towards CSS fans.

Edit: Anyway, welcome to all newcomers who aren't afraid of the mighty butthurt fanboys :]

Post edited 2012-08-15 21:13:16
2012-08-15 21:12:52
<3 HLTV.ORG <3
2012-08-15 21:26:25
Theres a stream's section on this website? where i cannot find :(
2012-08-15 21:48:33
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#92
Right under - Hot matches at http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=2
2012-08-15 22:40:59
more and more css players are joining HLTV.org every day.
I guess they know by now that this is the home of competitive counter-strike.
2012-08-15 22:24:29
by: ziw
#96
Welcome saucers, get ready for the massive hatred.
2012-08-16 00:40:48
haha :D
2012-08-16 00:42:27
+ ahahhaheuheuheuhehue
2012-08-16 01:12:16
People actually play CSS?
2012-08-16 01:14:35
people play everything :)

I mean I've joined old free Ultima Online server, and people still play there. Well known games will always be played :p

Post edited 2012-08-16 15:50:55
2012-08-16 15:50:19
by: ziw
#118
UO:T2A will always be the best MMO that had ever existed <3
2012-08-18 10:57:04
Welcome CSS players haha!
2012-08-16 15:48:29
since when adreN is css player?
2012-08-16 16:06:32
The American adreN, not the one from Kazakhstan. :)
2012-08-16 16:28:01
I believe he's Canadian.
2012-08-18 19:41:17
He's still an American, even though he might be Canadian :I
2012-08-19 01:20:37
-__-
2012-08-19 13:59:20
:D
2012-08-19 14:07:56
sAucers :D
2012-08-16 17:38:16
to new people at hltv.org:

with arms wide open
under the sunlight
welcome to this place
ill show you everything!
2012-08-16 17:59:13
good song :)
2012-08-16 18:04:00
The only comment I can make is that most of these "saucers" make up a portion of your 1.6 spectators at large events... Just beacuse we don't play the game doesn't mean we can't appreciate players who put time and effors into a competition.

Additionally, whats all this crap about "its boring to watch".. It's the exact same format as EVERY other team based FPS game. 5 vs 5 with bomb sites... The only boring part is your self centred stubborness to watching a game that isn't 1.6, at least CSS players have the open mindedness and common sense to realise rome wasn't built in a day and effort is being put in from everyone to make FPS games a part of the future.
2012-08-18 11:45:48
I guess CS1.6 players also watch big CSS events. ._.

I once saw a CSS commentator went naked during live match :o

Post edited 2012-08-18 12:03:07
2012-08-18 12:02:47
WARCLOWN! - It was legendary :D
2012-08-20 22:12:16
go is the future. i don't like it. i don't agree with it... but i will accept it, and hopefully embrace it.

2012-08-18 11:49:51
CS:GO gameplay sucks and the graphics are a mix of CSS with COD.. lol
2012-08-18 12:37:01
Thanks, been here a while thought.
anyone who can figure out the join date based on the userid ?

2012-08-18 19:00:10
by: Nomad - HLTV.org
#137
Sure, you signed up: 2006-11-27 23:03:27
2012-08-18 22:09:16
Disappointing, but then I checked SK:
Status Super Old School (9 years)

that's more like it =P
2012-08-19 00:18:14
Nomad, I know it is still CS:GO, CSP and CS 1.6 forum but when name changes? HLTV.org doesn't fit when there is SourceTV also included or whatever CS:GOtv is called.
2012-08-19 14:04:13
hltv its fine dude
2012-08-19 14:23:11
by: Nomad - HLTV.org
#146
The name will not change..
2012-08-19 14:57:44
welcome. do not criticize guys. we are all love e sports
2012-08-19 16:26:08
Welcome sAucers
2012-08-19 18:57:01

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