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cArn SMASHES fragbite/NiP/CS:GO
"Quite amused by how easy Fragbite forgot about what made them to who they are, as well as how much NiP/CS:GO garbage they post."
https://twitter.com/cArnCS/status/2360758303909642..
(title is obv a joke).
do you agree with him, should fragbite cut down on the NiP/CS:GO-news?
https://twitter.com/cArnCS/status/2360758303909642..
(title is obv a joke).
do you agree with him, should fragbite cut down on the NiP/CS:GO-news?
yeah
respect u carn
respect u carn
2012-08-16 14:31:45
+1
2012-08-16 16:17:07
He's posting garbage there too by trashtalking others. Just saying.
2012-08-16 14:33:26
He banned me from his Facebook page so i'm not taking his side.
2012-08-16 14:34:31
ROFL
2012-08-16 14:40:00
If he did it, he had a reason for it, that means, he did the right thing
2012-08-16 14:43:14
... Wich means you made some stupid shit wich is your on fault. In the time i was banned from HLTV i didnt blame hltv admins i blamed myself
try that instead
try that instead
2012-08-16 15:38:00
u must evolve carn, 2006-2012 have past... new times are coming..
2012-08-16 14:43:50
what do you call evolving ? Money , do you maybe remember old sk-gaming commercials that said GAMING IS BELIVING with big letters and Gaming is about passion ? Hahahhahah now look at that they all forgot about passion beliving all going for money even heaton didnt expect him to do that move.
2012-08-17 00:03:30
what sk have to do with NiP?
2012-08-17 00:12:04
respect carn
2012-08-16 14:48:29
dude still mad that heaton spoke the truth about him. fnatic suks
2012-08-16 14:50:41
truth? if you really thinks that HeatoN can beat cArn after his inactive years (as he said) you're dumb :)
2012-08-16 15:02:34
HeatoN can't speak shit about cArn, today CS isn't more just shooting 5hs on aztec.
2012-08-16 17:01:41
After listening to him cast and seeing how he follows every new CS game he gets his hands on until it fails. Then all of the sudden he's not committed. I really don't think he has the slightest clue what 1.6 is like competitively at this time. Not that it matters.
The real legends are made now to be honest. Most of the top tier pros were playing even back then and they just didn't catch there big break or were scrambling in the semi-pro team pool. These guys have mastered the game and are our true legends of CS 1.6 never forget the last four years guys this is when the legends were really made!
//end rant
Post edited 2012-08-16 17:31:21
The real legends are made now to be honest. Most of the top tier pros were playing even back then and they just didn't catch there big break or were scrambling in the semi-pro team pool. These guys have mastered the game and are our true legends of CS 1.6 never forget the last four years guys this is when the legends were really made!
//end rant
Post edited 2012-08-16 17:31:21
2012-08-16 17:29:13
pretty much on the spot but they were in a different "age" of 1.6, different playstile and they exceeded in their playstile, they did not play 7 years more to reach "perfection".
2012-08-16 19:16:56
fragbite can post what ever the fuck they want lol
and if he doesn't like he he does not have to use the site
and if he doesn't like he he does not have to use the site
2012-08-16 14:52:59
I fail to see how he expects Fragbite, or any other site, to continue covering just CS 1.6 with the decreasing amount of events, I could easily say HLTV.org would never cover anything but 1.6, but it would most likely mean we'd have to close the site in a few months when we cannot pay the salaries and hosting..
2012-08-16 15:03:06
u should remain faithfull to 1.6 we made this website , and now other comunity trying to absorve us to their game(supported by valve) cuz go is like css2 and we dont like that! cs must continue to be the spotlight of this site, our comunity made HLTV.org never forget this
Post edited 2012-08-16 15:16:52
Post edited 2012-08-16 15:16:52
2012-08-16 15:14:53
Uh huh, so a closed HLTV.org is better than one covering CS:GO?
And you nor anyone else did not "make" this website, I and some very dedicated people did.
And you nor anyone else did not "make" this website, I and some very dedicated people did.
2012-08-16 15:17:08
Why even bother dignifying something so stupid with an answer
2012-08-16 15:25:59
+1.4
2012-08-16 18:48:26
OHHH amazing wowowow +1000000
2012-08-16 23:31:57
+1.6
2012-08-16 23:59:06
You can fool most people with your second sentence but trust me without all these members, fags, trolls & trashtalkers, you wouldn't have such an immense traffic. And as you know with this daily traffic, hltv.org is worth thousands of dollars.
Now tell me, if this website only had you, Nixon & the staff how would it be so valuable?!
Keeping the place running is a pain but trust me I have struggled keeping up a place that had like 100 unique visitors daily & still wasn't worth it.
Now tell me, if this website only had you, Nixon & the staff how would it be so valuable?!
Keeping the place running is a pain but trust me I have struggled keeping up a place that had like 100 unique visitors daily & still wasn't worth it.
2012-08-16 16:48:56
"without all these members, fags, trolls & trashtalkers, you wouldn't have such an immense traffic"
why these people come here? because of hard work of hltv stuff.because of highlights,news about teams and players,iviews,coverages and stuff like that.its their hard work.they made this site,not we
Post edited 2012-08-16 17:02:29
why these people come here? because of hard work of hltv stuff.because of highlights,news about teams and players,iviews,coverages and stuff like that.its their hard work.they made this site,not we
Post edited 2012-08-16 17:02:29
2012-08-16 17:01:56
Asslicking already?! I know about their hard work better than you as I had to keep an website up myself. I'm just telling him that without so many users daily it would be only a chatting place for a few people.
At this point, with so many members, he doesn't need to say things that are said in the very beginning like: "You, the community make hltv, we would never exist without you".
At this point, with so many members, he doesn't need to say things that are said in the very beginning like: "You, the community make hltv, we would never exist without you".
2012-08-16 18:04:50
why asslicking? because of i can appraise hard work? because of i dont think that we made hltv org:D? grow up for god sake...and you are not only one with website here
and again...so many users come here because of articles,coverages etc etc.noone would come here without that.
and nomad said "And you nor anyone else did not "make" this website, I and some very dedicated people did."
only because of some kid said "our comunity made HLTV.org never forget this" which isnt true at all
Post edited 2012-08-16 18:21:02
and again...so many users come here because of articles,coverages etc etc.noone would come here without that.
and nomad said "And you nor anyone else did not "make" this website, I and some very dedicated people did."
only because of some kid said "our comunity made HLTV.org never forget this" which isnt true at all
Post edited 2012-08-16 18:21:02
2012-08-16 18:18:29
I never underestimated Nomad's work and as I previously stated, I know that keeping up a website like this is a pain in the a**. I just said that with this traffic on the website, they don't estimate a single member while in their very beginning when they had like 100 users, they used to say the contrary.
The thing is that it's a variety of things that make this website, both users and staff are important. And yes CS 1.6 attracted most members in here but that doesn't mean that hltv.org should die with it.
The thing is that it's a variety of things that make this website, both users and staff are important. And yes CS 1.6 attracted most members in here but that doesn't mean that hltv.org should die with it.
2012-08-16 19:47:27
finally meaningful comment.ofc that we(visitors) are important for hltv.org.i agree with that.we are something like listeners for musicians.
i just lold hard about mindwalks post that WE made this site and hltv.org should remain faithfull only to 1.6.i hope that you see my point here
Post edited 2012-08-16 20:11:44
i just lold hard about mindwalks post that WE made this site and hltv.org should remain faithfull only to 1.6.i hope that you see my point here
Post edited 2012-08-16 20:11:44
2012-08-16 20:11:06
maybe u missunderstood , or i didnt explain my self correcty , we cs comunity made the fame of this website , and in my op cs:go is a css, i dont have an other way to explain u that , only dumbs culd think that i said that i did this site ( in terms of work and and etc)
Post edited 2012-08-16 23:38:40
Post edited 2012-08-16 23:38:40
2012-08-16 23:34:40
LOL, asslicking, we use it a lot in Chinese ^ ^
2012-08-16 18:23:03
He and the hltv.org crew that maintained this website because and for the visitors/community. I guess thats the point.
2012-08-17 00:02:38
That's more like it but from his sentence, I understood that only he & his staff made this site.
Well, yeah... when you have got so much daily traffic, it's easier to overestimate yourself & underestimate the people that actually "are" the traffic.
Well, yeah... when you have got so much daily traffic, it's easier to overestimate yourself & underestimate the people that actually "are" the traffic.
2012-08-17 00:09:00
How much
2012-08-16 17:53:16
He meant that if it wasn't for the users, you and this tiny bunch of very dedicated people wouldn't go anywhere.
2012-08-16 17:57:25
Clearly not even worth trying :D
But on the plus side HLTV might become a place where actual dignified conversation takes place once the brain dead 1.6 fans disappear.
But on the plus side HLTV might become a place where actual dignified conversation takes place once the brain dead 1.6 fans disappear.
2012-08-16 18:16:56
the thing is - you don't become braindead because you like 1.6. The reason there's more retarded comments on HLTV then cadred is the much bigger community.
And by the way, it goes both ways. More retards and more geniuses.
And by the way, it goes both ways. More retards and more geniuses.
2012-08-16 18:20:40
you sound pretty self righteous and pretty high up on ur horse...the fans had a HUGE part in "making" ur website. All you did was create a webpage that covered cs when not many other good sites were around, if GotFrag was still alive im sure 90% of the community would still be there lol.
2012-08-16 22:14:39
Whatever, why don't you go make your own site then if it is that easy..
2012-08-16 22:15:59
i never said it was that easy, although it isnt the most difficult thing in the world, its not like my friends and I have never created a webpage lol. Im just saying dont shit on ur subscribers by letting them know that u and a few other people are the only reason this site has done anything...
2012-08-16 22:18:58
Yea because running HLTV.org for 8 years is just like "you and your friends creating a website" - just stop replying to me, clearly you got no idea what it takes to run a site of this magnitude, and if it was as easy as you suggest, it is funny that no other proper 1.6 sites exists is it not?
2012-08-17 08:17:53
you still dont get it, my whole point was not to be arrogant and act like you did this all urself. I dont care what it takes to run a website, my point still stands....the fans had a HUGE part in ur websites success. End of Story.
2012-08-17 09:03:06
Yea and The Beatles were only big because they had many listeners, what is your point exactly? Of course we need visitors, and we love every single one, but the visitors came AFTER we made the site and did coverage, not before, so you see, we made it, the visitors liked what they saw and stayed, and thus we could make new things, and we grew together, but this does no equate that we should just let the visitors we have dictate what we do with our website, we have always been in charge of the direction of the website, and we will keep being that.
2012-08-17 09:45:09
to the eyes of ones that registerd here in old school days and on fragbite it did , yes the guys that made website are cool and things but the community it self shaped it , the member of community no one says that cs:go should be covers but you should be careful with thing that you are playing , cs:go is game that passes by do you realy think that VALVE will have enough money in next 12 months they will make "new fps-Game" Almoast exactly like CS:GO and they will inveset even more money and sell that garbage, i did play cs 1.6 for 10 years and i dont feel like crossing over to cs:go that easly e-sports was about Passion,beliving now it's all about money sad but true..
2012-08-17 00:06:53
It's really meaningfulless to tell professional eSport athletes nowaday play for passion. To play the game, to entertain people watching it are their jobs. And with a job, you'll get paid hence they have to run chasing the money. It's a fact that we can't deny however hard we try. You, me and many others felt in love with CS for so many years and we're still playing it today, we all play for the love and passion of the game, but we shouldn't criticize pros or any one else for their switch to CSGO, it's their choice, not ours. And yes, the last laugh is still to be seen. The second yes, hltv admins should respect us, your subscribers, more than what you' ve been expressing imo
2012-08-17 04:56:23
well i cant blame hltv to host cs:go there salaries wont fall from sky but what about teams they could just deny game then the e-sport menagment esl will be forced to restore cs 1.6 as main titles becous it's moast played game ever lol evry day 40k steam games just from balkan not talking about NON STEAM.. :/
2012-08-17 13:46:37
you are so fucking stupid LOL
2012-08-16 15:21:25
i lold so hard...you made this site:D? dear god
2012-08-16 15:23:06
Foxj fan alert!
2012-08-16 16:01:06
OMG f0rest is playing GO , I AM GONNA BUY IT !!
2012-08-16 23:39:25
I actually don't like CS.GO, so you failed.
2012-08-17 01:53:04
1.6 players are migrating to go.. what are u expecting for? this isnt cadred fellow... u have the filter u can uncheck the CS:GO option, stop talk shit
2012-08-16 16:30:42
i see kids are all mad and now everybody love cs:go , u dont need to flame me just cuz i said what i think , forum is to share opinions, i believe that better days for 1.6(maybe in promod) will come so hltv will never close, ofc i didnt mean i or other random did this website, but we (comunity) made his fame
2012-08-16 16:44:37
think about what are u saying.
You arent voice of community and u are using word "we" .
Secondly if u think that a HLTV.org doesnt obey the rules of market then u are wrong.
This site exist thanks to esport mostly. So i dont think you should pat staff of this site for trying out to write about other cs title.
If esport moves on somewhere else hltv must follow or it ll be its last days of existance.
You arent voice of community and u are using word "we" .
Secondly if u think that a HLTV.org doesnt obey the rules of market then u are wrong.
This site exist thanks to esport mostly. So i dont think you should pat staff of this site for trying out to write about other cs title.
If esport moves on somewhere else hltv must follow or it ll be its last days of existance.
2012-08-16 18:37:10
lol...Dynamism is one single rule of Business and this, my friend is business.
And besides, if HLTV were sponsored by Arbalet, then for sure people here would have stuck to 1.6.
And besides, if HLTV were sponsored by Arbalet, then for sure people here would have stuck to 1.6.
2012-08-17 06:46:12
I guess he's talking more about the fact that fragbite is writing news like "nonamerteam gets picked up by nonamerorganisation" all the time.
Also, CS:GO isn't even that big of a game yet, I'd actually say it's still very small.
Also, CS:GO isn't even that big of a game yet, I'd actually say it's still very small.
2012-08-16 15:26:15
and it will stay that way unless sites like fragbite hltv and cadred cover it
and what is so bad about them giving exsposure to these "nonamers"
you do realise that at one stage all your cs idols were nonamers and without the exsposure they were given they may not have made it to where they are
and what is so bad about them giving exsposure to these "nonamers"
you do realise that at one stage all your cs idols were nonamers and without the exsposure they were given they may not have made it to where they are
2012-08-16 15:31:26
yeah, they were nonamers. then they proved themselves through their play to become namers.
I don't know about you, but I don't want to read not newsworthy material.
I don't know about you, but I don't want to read not newsworthy material.
2012-08-16 15:33:52
yet you are not willing to give these so called nonamers the chance to prove themselves?? whose to say that one of these guys can't be the next big player/team
makes sense, not really lol
makes sense, not really lol
2012-08-16 15:37:24
They prove themselves through winning games in tournaments. Do you see big sport newsmagasines covering lower divisons of football on a regular basis? No you don't, and they shouldn't because the big majority aren't interested at all.
2012-08-16 15:38:23
Has not been any comps for GO yet so they haven't been given the chance to perform yet, but with the way you are talking you have already dismissed them because they are pleying a game that you clearly are not interested in and if that is the case, just dont read the news lol
2012-08-16 15:42:25
I am interested in the big news, patchnotes, big tournaments etc. But "team that placed 200 in ESL-tournament got picked up by organisation i've never heard of" isn't interesting to me or any other person that isn't a total CS:GO-nuthugger.
Where's the logic in covering B or even C-players in a game that doesn't even have big competitions yet on a premier esport-site?!
Post edited 2012-08-16 15:46:56
Where's the logic in covering B or even C-players in a game that doesn't even have big competitions yet on a premier esport-site?!
Post edited 2012-08-16 15:46:56
2012-08-16 15:46:43
I could say the same about covering a game that is cleary in its last stages of life aka 1.6
or about a game that has been in development for so long and that the only reason people are paying any attention to it now is becasue 1.6 is dying lol
end of the day if the news does not intrest you
Do
Not
Read
It
and just stick to things that intrest you
its funny because your bias against csgo is so obvious that anything you say cannot be taken seriously
or about a game that has been in development for so long and that the only reason people are paying any attention to it now is becasue 1.6 is dying lol
end of the day if the news does not intrest you
Do
Not
Read
It
and just stick to things that intrest you
its funny because your bias against csgo is so obvious that anything you say cannot be taken seriously
2012-08-16 15:50:57
The thing is, that your bias TOWARDS CS:GO is what makes it funny because we can't take you seriously. I wouldn't like to read about B or C-players in ANY SPORT, whether it's soccer, football, CS 1.6, CS:S, CS:GO, Quake, Chess or Starcraft.
Not even the biggest diehards on fragbite feels like the news is necessary and most people did in fact complain (even CS:GO-fans). So i'm starting to wonder who's biased here.
Not even the biggest diehards on fragbite feels like the news is necessary and most people did in fact complain (even CS:GO-fans). So i'm starting to wonder who's biased here.
2012-08-16 16:49:04
actually I love all 5 versions of cs so i have no bias whatsoever
and I plan on playing whatever version is picked up by my community in aus so im not really fussed by what news is posted because i am interested in ALL news about the scene
and I plan on playing whatever version is picked up by my community in aus so im not really fussed by what news is posted because i am interested in ALL news about the scene
2012-08-16 17:08:43
ALL news? Are you interested in the Chinese scene?
I guess no.
I guess no.
2012-08-17 01:23:20
If it was posted on a site i frequent yes I would be interested and read it
2012-08-17 01:31:54
"yet you are not willing to give these so called nonamers the chance to prove themselves??"
I dont think its zaihtaM's job to approve of all the new players and decide wether or not they can go to tournements :)
Your arguements makes no sense really. I dont either want to see some lame news about a unknown player that joins an unknown team.
But that doesnt mean that the player cant prove himself! He doesnt need a news on HLTV to do that.
*was meant to be a reply to #46*
Post edited 2012-08-16 15:44:37
I dont think its zaihtaM's job to approve of all the new players and decide wether or not they can go to tournements :)
Your arguements makes no sense really. I dont either want to see some lame news about a unknown player that joins an unknown team.
But that doesnt mean that the player cant prove himself! He doesnt need a news on HLTV to do that.
*was meant to be a reply to #46*
Post edited 2012-08-16 15:44:37
2012-08-16 15:42:21
obviously the market forces you to change to CS:GO. But you should continue covering 1.6 because although the ammount of events is decreasing, there are and will still be events. In Portugal I've never seen such a big investment in CS, and it is supposed to be nearly dead.
2012-08-16 16:40:16
We have no intention of stopping our CS 1.6 coverage..
2012-08-16 17:06:17
u should... cause if the day come when u have to send ur staff to cover one or the other, i'd go with CS:GO honestly..
2012-08-16 19:34:08
Just face the truth, 1.6 is in serious trouble, there is no reason to still coverage it :(
Maybe not NOW but in short future
Post edited 2012-08-16 21:54:28
Maybe not NOW but in short future
Post edited 2012-08-16 21:54:28
2012-08-16 21:53:37
they can't. they need the traffic to help pay bills. sad that this site will end up dying soon if they stop covering 1.6. look at gotfrag. that site is dead because they stopped covering 1.6. hltv is milking 1.6 by posting up old ass frags from way back when to keep some subscribers interested. if cs:go has no viewers, which in the near future it won't since the game sucks, this site will die just like gotfrag.
2012-08-17 00:41:37
owned =D
2012-08-19 19:22:18
This^^
It's not even difficult to understand rofl. Have people's IQs dropped recently or something?
1.6 is finished in every sense of the word. Anyone who still thinks it's worth covering needs to get their heads checked.
It's not even difficult to understand rofl. Have people's IQs dropped recently or something?
1.6 is finished in every sense of the word. Anyone who still thinks it's worth covering needs to get their heads checked.
2012-08-17 03:17:09
Are you the owner of HLTV.org?
2012-08-20 16:47:24
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't cArn jump over to a manager job with fnatic's SC2 team? Talk about staying true to your roots..?
2012-08-16 15:11:02
he is the "CGO" of fnatic... he is handling everything i think lol
2012-08-16 15:22:56
he handles everything that is fnatic. And I would call that staying true to your roots considering he has been a part of fnatic since he joined in 2006.
sup?
sup?
2012-08-16 15:24:22
His roots would be in 1.6 (if we're talking proper roots, you know.. because he didn't start in 2006), ergo he "should" be involved in fnatic's 1.6 business mainly, if he were to follow his own advice.
Just like he is a "CGO" who handles everything (like SC2), fragbite is a website that covers more than one game.
Just like he is a "CGO" who handles everything (like SC2), fragbite is a website that covers more than one game.
2012-08-16 16:08:19
It isn't even remotely close at being the same thing dude.
2012-08-16 16:51:09
1.6 is dieing and they need to cover something right?
2012-08-16 15:12:19
deading
2012-08-16 15:27:30
deaded
2012-08-16 15:55:00
ok is deadeded
2012-08-16 15:57:12
what? you are supposed to say "is dieing" that is present tense, there is no such a thing as "deaded" lol, but if you are just trolling guys, then ok!
2012-08-16 17:38:26
wat is spellded deadeded what ar yuo talking bout mate?
2012-08-16 17:47:55
its a common way of trolling directed to Sauce kids that came to 1.6 websites to post "cs is dead". I remember posts like this from back in the gotfrag era around 2005.
2012-08-16 19:00:58
oh ok, rofl :P
2012-08-16 20:04:31
dying*
2012-08-16 21:24:16
dieing LMAO
2012-08-16 22:00:43
Money is everything.
2012-08-16 15:13:31
Sad, but true.
2012-08-16 19:32:57
+1 respect carn
2012-08-16 15:15:01
No, no they should not. cArn mad about NiP cause HeatoN said he sucked :(
2012-08-16 15:20:47
Previous tweet not to be taken as offence, just my opinion about it all. CS would not be where it is today without Fragbite.
cArn said this also.
cArn said this also.
2012-08-16 15:21:14
dude we need some drama and you're ruining the moment
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2012-08-16 15:24:58
haha
2012-08-16 15:57:47
more like he realised what he said was idiotic and had to say something to save face
2012-08-16 15:27:44
Can you guys just face the fact that CS 1.6 is an old game, and 1.6 will always be my favorite game, but there aren't many major events that will host 1.6 again, CS:GO is the new game. It's where the money is so you guys should just move on and deal with it. CS:Go wants to bring new players in the community and from what cArn has said is that he still wants fragbite to post about CS 1.6, but what is there to post about CS 1.6 there's barley anything to post about it. I respect carn and all, but it's time to move on.
2012-08-16 15:22:49
I face the fact that CS 1.6 is old. So i'm opting for Promod instead.
2012-08-16 15:25:26
Don't get me wrong PROmod is a good game too, I will honestly play CS:PROMOD then CS:GO or both, but what are the chances of major events picking up PROmod, promod failed once, and once they heard about CS:GO in the making, they started to try to re-do promod, and almost every major tournaments are supporting CS:GO(Valve, ESEA, ESWC, WCG,MLG) and other sponsors etc. I remember ESEA was supporting PROMOD, but once it failed ESEA dropped it so they don't want to give promod another chance, and ESEA has been working with Valve and trying to improve CS:GO, so we'll see how CS:GO is when it's released.
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Post edited 2012-08-16 15:34:42
2012-08-16 15:33:56
"almost every major tournaments are supporting CS:GO(Valve, ESEA, ESWC, WCG,MLG)"
Valve won't host tournaments, WCG and MLG aren't supporting it, and ESWC has it as an "unofficial tournament".
Carmac says
"Any game that we pick up, be it CS:GO, CSP or Worms 7, needs to check all the checkboxes. It needs a community of fans and players that come from all corners of the globe and we need to be able to afford to run events for it also."
it's up to us.
Valve won't host tournaments, WCG and MLG aren't supporting it, and ESWC has it as an "unofficial tournament".
Carmac says
"Any game that we pick up, be it CS:GO, CSP or Worms 7, needs to check all the checkboxes. It needs a community of fans and players that come from all corners of the globe and we need to be able to afford to run events for it also."
it's up to us.
2012-08-16 15:35:27
we'll im just giving my statement that most likely it will happen, and I probably wrote some stuff wrong, but I have a stronger feeling it will be GO, cause you don't see much players on PROMOD than you see on GO(top players)
2012-08-16 15:44:59
You wrote it like it'd already had happened. And it isn't that likely to happen, sorry to burst your bubble.
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2012-08-16 15:47:48
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3583/munch20120..
2012-08-16 17:07:54
promod is already old and as outdated as C:SS
2012-08-16 16:02:27
outdated? haha CSP can use every single Source engine version, including the one that CSGO uses.
btw, CSGO looks awful compared to modern shooters like BF and CoD.
btw, CSGO looks awful compared to modern shooters like BF and CoD.
2012-08-16 19:03:52
Yeah they took 7 years to improve css graphics to make them look like 2006 graphics instead of 2004. How long is it gonna take for them to make it look like csgo? I think you don't know anything about developing a game...
2012-08-16 19:32:05
the CSP team recently said they could port the mod to a the CSGO source engine version.
2012-08-16 19:41:28
Yeah, it is possible. But like i said, it's a ton of work. Let's imagine that they release the game on july 2013. If they want to port the game onto the portal engine (csgo runs on this engine), they'll have at least one year of work (most likely two, since we're talking of the slowest game devs ever), so the game will have decent 2010 graphics in 2014-2015. That would be totally useless imo.
2012-08-16 22:57:42
Nope. Some times ago they already ported the game from an older version to a newer version and they said the prepared everything to do this again in a very short time.
2012-08-16 23:02:05
Indeed they ported the game to Orange Box, and how long did it take? Almost a year, and OB was only an "update" of the source engine. Csgo runs on a different one, porting csp to the portal/l4d engine will be much more complicated.
2012-08-17 01:33:57
so you are telling me to play the inferior game because of tournaments i will never go to and prize money i will never win . ?
2012-08-16 17:21:35
https://twitter.com/cArnCS/status/2360761325234708..
2012-08-16 15:29:03
SK also forgot who made them, but that seems to be the trend these days.. You can't expect hltv.org to just cover 1.6 because it's not their fault its being left out of tournaments... If anything us hardcore 1.6 fans can be happy hltv.org helped keep it alive and is still keeping it alive today
2012-08-16 16:46:42
cArn said about CSP and CSGO:
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3583/munch20120..
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3583/munch20120..
2012-08-16 17:07:29
:-D
https://twitter.com/cArnCS/status/2310653902629355..
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https://twitter.com/cArnCS/status/2310653902629355..
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2012-08-16 17:43:19
The funny part is that it's not a replacement, it's a new game. :)
2012-08-16 18:03:20
It would be a replacement for CS 1.6 in the esports scene? ...
2012-08-16 18:06:52
Actually it's not really replacing it since 1.6 is just dying and CS:GO comes right at this time.
2012-08-16 18:08:49
Yeah, a game with the same name, same maps, same objectives etc fills the spot the other game with the same name, maps etc left.
How is that not a replacement?
How is that not a replacement?
2012-08-16 18:10:53
from now I'm respecting carn and Natus Vincere (I was a hater)
2012-08-16 17:19:03
Carn I AM REALLY MOVED, But....U are out of the scene, Its time for lot of ppl to win tournaments, go around countries etc just like you did,as they spent too much time on CS......So they will be glad CS:GO gives them the opportunity to experience these... I am still glad u stand loyal to the old game. But I dono...... I like CS:GO, but it doesnt give me the pleasure of 1.6 ... more over it needs such a high specs it wont run on gaming centers with the resolution i play at home :/
But What i want is , To see OLD NIP ,SK , FNATIC MIBR ALL IN ACTION, doesnt matter 1.6 or CS;GO, but we need u all man !
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But What i want is , To see OLD NIP ,SK , FNATIC MIBR ALL IN ACTION, doesnt matter 1.6 or CS;GO, but we need u all man !
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2012-08-16 17:24:13
huh? did you forget there was csp and not just csgo? and cso2 for the koreans!
2012-08-16 17:40:05
Any game, I just want the old communiy back.. 50k+ specs, NIP SK FNATIC MIBR VPRO PGS 3D/COL and all that
2012-08-17 05:45:13
5 PRO teams left for 1.6 that have been around for 1 year + yep keep updating the news every 4 months for 1 event thats if it even takes 4 months
2012-08-16 17:51:02
That's REAL professional for someone who represents a huge gaming organization like fnatic. Very disappointed in cArn and his response to eSports news websites covering exactly what they are supposed to be covering. Extremely unprofessional.
Nomad, do what you gotta do man. Don't be talked down to by these trolls.
Nomad, do what you gotta do man. Don't be talked down to by these trolls.
2012-08-16 18:01:25
x1x1 carn x1x1
2012-08-16 18:07:10
I wonder if he said the same things to Xizt :P
He's in no position to call shots for the rest of the world and dictate how it operates.
He's in no position to call shots for the rest of the world and dictate how it operates.
2012-08-16 18:11:40
He must be frustrated since as soon as fnatic started to make some boom in 1.6(after hes gone, but still their manager), people switched to CS:GO. And i agree he must have been yelling over Xizt behind his back:-D
2012-08-17 06:51:08
carn n1
2012-08-16 18:28:43
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2012-08-16 18:44:47
n1
2012-08-16 18:50:40
I've always liked carn, shame to see him acting like an immature moron here. If he thinks that a website should let itself die purely to retain some higher sense of pride, then he truly is clueless.
2012-08-16 19:03:08
you have to stop using the word immature, good graphics makes you look like an adult wannabe kid :)
2012-08-16 19:30:07
I don't understand any of what you just said :)
2012-08-16 21:06:11
Immature for a general user of hltv forum is the guy who calls 1.6 greatest and the guy who he followed couple of months back "moron" . hope you get it this time. :)
Edit : The "childish" attribute you are talking about is for the guys who stick to the game where their heart lies or for the people who switched to GO just because some moderators and few top players switched as well?:p
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Edit : The "childish" attribute you are talking about is for the guys who stick to the game where their heart lies or for the people who switched to GO just because some moderators and few top players switched as well?:p
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2012-08-17 07:38:46
So you think they should just let their site die with CS 1.6?
Will you pay their wages after that?
Will you pay their wages after that?
2012-08-17 10:29:06
haha, not more of the immature or childish gaming morons are we now? Please, stop calling people who dont want to switch to GO childish from now on:) we ain't stopping your GO promotion :p
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2012-08-17 10:48:38
I never said he should switch, i said that calling someone else a traitor to their roots for switching to CS:GO was childish, which it is?
I really don't get what you are talking about, you are either incredibly stupid, or have mis-read something I have written.
I really don't get what you are talking about, you are either incredibly stupid, or have mis-read something I have written.
2012-08-17 11:09:38
you need to smoke up, you are way too frustrated :)) + now it is boring to argue
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2012-08-17 14:31:14
He laughs at you and stupid Valve.
2012-08-16 19:34:51
I'm sure he does, but considering me and Valve both get paid more than cArn, I'll happily laugh right back at him.
I don't dislike cArn, he is awesome, but this statement was childish and unprofessional.
I don't dislike cArn, he is awesome, but this statement was childish and unprofessional.
2012-08-16 21:07:58
How do you know his salary? Also, do you have free travels all over the world and free worktimes?
2012-08-16 21:29:00
I can predict. and travelling the world isn't something I want to do. Besides, I'm not comparing salaries, I was just thinking of a comeback to that moron.
2012-08-16 23:01:58
and Carns unprofessional with words. good job
2012-08-17 00:13:25
This isn't my profession, I can do what I want hehe :)
2012-08-17 10:30:11
after this post garbage is CARN...
2012-08-16 19:21:13
Self-description by himself:
"Patrik cArn Sättermon, 27 - Chief Gaming Officer at Fnatic. Before that I have been a decent CS player winning more medals than anyone else on this planet."
I'm quite amused how much he utilizes the fact that he was the favourite player of fnatic management into placing himself as the best player in CS 1.6, while constantly having HLTV's rating below 1.00. It is not very hard to accomplish so much being surrounded by amazing players like forest, gtr, gux and many others. And true worth of carn was showed twice. First, when GTR, Gux and forest left fnatic and the team started sucking so badly; and second, when replacing carn with karrigan instantly made fnatic the best cs team in the world.
"Patrik cArn Sättermon, 27 - Chief Gaming Officer at Fnatic. Before that I have been a decent CS player winning more medals than anyone else on this planet."
I'm quite amused how much he utilizes the fact that he was the favourite player of fnatic management into placing himself as the best player in CS 1.6, while constantly having HLTV's rating below 1.00. It is not very hard to accomplish so much being surrounded by amazing players like forest, gtr, gux and many others. And true worth of carn was showed twice. First, when GTR, Gux and forest left fnatic and the team started sucking so badly; and second, when replacing carn with karrigan instantly made fnatic the best cs team in the world.
2012-08-16 19:43:06
It is obvious that he is trolling mate..
And I must admit, his trolling is beyond being "decent", haha :DD
And I must admit, his trolling is beyond being "decent", haha :DD
2012-08-16 19:50:28
Statistic says it all. You're the typical HLTV-noob that fanboys the one on top of the scoreboard.
2012-08-16 19:54:40
I'm perfectly aware on his role in the team, I know he wasn't supposed to be a madfragger. But take a closer look at other top-teams and ther in-game leaders: ave, arcadion, robban, zeus, kuben and more. All of them were throughout time in weaker teams, but still they managed to record ratings over 1.00. Deal with it.
2012-08-16 20:52:39
as long as he plays his role well it doesn't matter. Also it is not like those players you mention are twice as good as carn in the fragging department lol.
2012-08-16 20:54:24
But you cannot measure how well he played his role, it's unmeasureable. It is carn's opinion that he was good. Moreover, read/watch interviews with other pros, e.g. recent thorin's interview with dsn, I'm sure kuben also said that some time ago: both of them stated that fnatic in 2009 played simple counter-strike (tacticalwise), basing on fragging abilities of its players. So, carn's impact on their winning streak was introducing simple strats, while other players were fragging like madmen. Really, take a bow in front of carn, pff....
2012-08-16 21:01:14
"But you cannot measure how well he played his role, it's unmeasureable."
There's only one player that has more medals then carn in CS, and that is f0rest. I'd say he played his role well. Have you ever heard of leadership? If you've seen the interview with ins he said that carn was one of the best IGL's for him because he had the ability to make you really calm thus giving you the chance to play at more then 100%.
My personal opinion is that he was a good player. Your's is another. We have no clue about it except that he's won more medals then everyone except for f0rest, and how you can call him bad is beyond me.
Also, you stated that the true worth of carn was showed when GT, Gux and f0rest left. You realise they won a couple of events without them right for example with an unmotivated dsn and a pita that isn't exactly one of the best players that've ever lived.
There's only one player that has more medals then carn in CS, and that is f0rest. I'd say he played his role well. Have you ever heard of leadership? If you've seen the interview with ins he said that carn was one of the best IGL's for him because he had the ability to make you really calm thus giving you the chance to play at more then 100%.
My personal opinion is that he was a good player. Your's is another. We have no clue about it except that he's won more medals then everyone except for f0rest, and how you can call him bad is beyond me.
Also, you stated that the true worth of carn was showed when GT, Gux and f0rest left. You realise they won a couple of events without them right for example with an unmotivated dsn and a pita that isn't exactly one of the best players that've ever lived.
2012-08-16 21:05:45
Well, I didn't want to call him bad, I apologize. I just wanted to say that he was certainly a good player, but he wasn't among the world best, as he describes himself.
Moreover, it's interesing to see a lie in his twitter-description. He states he has the most medals, and according to you it's forest :)
They in fact won a couple of tournaments but I feel that when they were winning, they weren't doing so due to the tactics or leadership. For instance, At IEM in Kiev Xizt has stunning performance and won the title almost singlehandedly, the same for Friis at Dreamhack.
To sum up, I didn't mean carn was weak or something - he was in fact decent cs player but his self-promotion abilities are way better than these in CS.
Moreover, it's interesing to see a lie in his twitter-description. He states he has the most medals, and according to you it's forest :)
They in fact won a couple of tournaments but I feel that when they were winning, they weren't doing so due to the tactics or leadership. For instance, At IEM in Kiev Xizt has stunning performance and won the title almost singlehandedly, the same for Friis at Dreamhack.
To sum up, I didn't mean carn was weak or something - he was in fact decent cs player but his self-promotion abilities are way better than these in CS.
2012-08-16 21:14:27
The thing is - lurppis asked carn about it and carn answered he was drunk when he wrote it.
And I'd call him more then decent. Seriously, who thought that delpan, xizt, dsn, carn, pita would win IEM EU?
And I'd call him more then decent. Seriously, who thought that delpan, xizt, dsn, carn, pita would win IEM EU?
2012-08-16 21:16:31
One thing is that he wrote it being drunk, and another is the fact that he keeps it till today.
IEM - totally agree, it was completely unexpected. I mentioned Xizt had a great tournament - but now I remember that carn was also damn good in this tourney. I would say - he hasn't repeated that performance.
IEM - totally agree, it was completely unexpected. I mentioned Xizt had a great tournament - but now I remember that carn was also damn good in this tourney. I would say - he hasn't repeated that performance.
2012-08-17 00:37:16
Yet carn was the most successful among all the igl´s you mentioned, ironic.
2012-08-17 09:33:18
Well, if you put a monkey in the team alongside gtr, gux, forest and xizt, this monkey (plus additional condition: fnatic management has to like this monkey so they keep it in the team for long time) would have a good chance to be the most successful 1.6 player.
2012-08-17 10:00:05
It´s easy to put this way when gux and gtr are now known as one of the best players in CS. What were they before fnatic?
You make it sound like it´s carn´s fault that ave´s teammate´s were shittier than carn´s. It just how it played out.
You make it sound like it´s carn´s fault that ave´s teammate´s were shittier than carn´s. It just how it played out.
2012-08-17 10:57:02
It might be the case that carn is good at developing players. But does this make you the best CS player in the world?
I don't mean that this is carn's "fault". I just wanted to point out that carn, despite being surrounded by better players, was recording lower ratings than other IGL from top team. He should have recorded better ratings than any other IGL if he is the best CS player (I emphasize the fact that he had better teammates than other IGLs).
Carn seems to have some complex. I think he is aware of the fact that he was nothing more than "good" CS player. Do you remember heaton's remark than carn is very weak aimwise? Carn instantly attcked heaton thah he doesn't unterstand the game and should have stayed quiet. That was ridiculous :)
I don't mean that this is carn's "fault". I just wanted to point out that carn, despite being surrounded by better players, was recording lower ratings than other IGL from top team. He should have recorded better ratings than any other IGL if he is the best CS player (I emphasize the fact that he had better teammates than other IGLs).
Carn seems to have some complex. I think he is aware of the fact that he was nothing more than "good" CS player. Do you remember heaton's remark than carn is very weak aimwise? Carn instantly attcked heaton thah he doesn't unterstand the game and should have stayed quiet. That was ridiculous :)
2012-08-18 13:39:46
I think the case is that when you´re surrounded with insanely good players you are more likely to have a worse rating because you simply don´t need to frag that much.
And the part carn being the best CS player is a joke ofcourse:p He was a top player, played for a top team..nothing more really.
And the part carn being the best CS player is a joke ofcourse:p He was a top player, played for a top team..nothing more really.
2012-08-18 13:50:18
cARn FTW gogogo!!!
2012-08-16 20:02:26
cArn is so frustrated that he is trash at GO, scrimmed against him loads on GO - He bottom frags and i'm dropping the big three oh on his head.
2012-08-16 20:12:37
carn sux
2012-08-16 20:22:35
good one nonamer. money made from CS = 0
carn made from CS = loads.
you fail
carn made from CS = loads.
you fail
2012-08-17 00:17:32
lol
u dont even know what my job is
i dont need cs for living dude..
he can play cs for ever, win 1 ESWC and 1 wcg every month and still he wont earn more money then me..
pff
and before u came here with "he travelled all the world playing cs and bla bla bla.." i can do that,and already did WITHOUT CS...so,skillwise he sux,and as IGL he is not the best imo
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u dont even know what my job is
i dont need cs for living dude..
he can play cs for ever, win 1 ESWC and 1 wcg every month and still he wont earn more money then me..
pff
and before u came here with "he travelled all the world playing cs and bla bla bla.." i can do that,and already did WITHOUT CS...so,skillwise he sux,and as IGL he is not the best imo
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2012-08-17 06:13:40
prove everything what you just said.
2012-08-19 18:59:11
+1
2012-08-19 19:26:15
The current owners of Fragbite has got nothing to do with what Fragbite used to be. They cover alot of games, HoN, Dota2, SCII, etc, why not CS:GO?
2012-08-16 20:37:35
Carn is right about something.
1.6 community shouldn't dive into CS:GO.
We have to make Valve change GO to a CS game. It's like all those years with 1.6 and previous versions goes to garbage right now.
They copied Dota 1:1 gameplay and everything. And 1.6, this?
1.6 community shouldn't dive into CS:GO.
We have to make Valve change GO to a CS game. It's like all those years with 1.6 and previous versions goes to garbage right now.
They copied Dota 1:1 gameplay and everything. And 1.6, this?
2012-08-16 20:45:15
Its called a change dude. Valve does the best they can to support the community and fuckers like you won't stop bitching. If you want a new counter strike please tell me how does it have to look with new graphics?
2012-08-16 20:57:11
I do not stand against change. Look at my last posts, please.
The thing is Valve is doing a great job on Dota 2, taking their time, spending money, listening to community.
Dota 2 is awesome game both as a sequel and a game on it's own. They have added great features.
In Counter Strike's case, Valve doesn't a give a shit about what Counter Strike community wants. I very well like and want new and good graphics. But GO gameplay really doesn't resemble 1.6 and it's culture.
You have to learn and adapt to gameplay from almost the get-go. I'm angry on 1.6 community because
1) They mindlessly jump to the game without giving their best to change it.
2) Whining mindlessly and doesn't sign up for GO forums and support people who are trying to make the game more 1.6, thus more competitive.
Ofcourse I support GO but community needs to be aware of themselves and make Valve do a Counter Strike game not with only the name, graphics and the maps, more important than all of that, gameplay.
The thing is Valve is doing a great job on Dota 2, taking their time, spending money, listening to community.
Dota 2 is awesome game both as a sequel and a game on it's own. They have added great features.
In Counter Strike's case, Valve doesn't a give a shit about what Counter Strike community wants. I very well like and want new and good graphics. But GO gameplay really doesn't resemble 1.6 and it's culture.
You have to learn and adapt to gameplay from almost the get-go. I'm angry on 1.6 community because
1) They mindlessly jump to the game without giving their best to change it.
2) Whining mindlessly and doesn't sign up for GO forums and support people who are trying to make the game more 1.6, thus more competitive.
Ofcourse I support GO but community needs to be aware of themselves and make Valve do a Counter Strike game not with only the name, graphics and the maps, more important than all of that, gameplay.
2012-08-16 21:07:06
It's because Hidden Path Entertainment develops CS:GO and not Valve.
2012-08-16 21:28:20
you got pwned by eriadorr.
2012-08-17 00:19:48
Valve don't care about the community but they fly players from all around cities of USA on they're expense to hear about feedback and to hear whats right and so on about the game. Stop reading after "Valve doesn't a give a shit about what Counter Strike community wants"
2012-08-17 00:31:50
Really smart tactic from Valve to fool people like you.
2012-08-17 00:39:23
To make a game better for morons like you? I feel bad for them because people do effort for no reason. Make another counter strike with better graphics, but we won't play it because i got owned in a public server. Logic of 1.6 community or just kids who start playing in 2011
2012-08-17 00:50:25
The thing is, it isn't near the same thing as the CS we play and love. We don't play something just because of the name unlike you.
2012-08-17 01:05:48
Whats the point of making the same crap as 1.6? The same guns, movement, bhop, whats the fun of that? Players need to find new things in a game to make it fun. And unless you didn't realize counter strike is not only 1.6
2012-08-17 01:12:33
What's the point of playing soccer? I'm open for new games by the way, but only if they're good. And i've probably given more constructive feedback to the CS:GO-development then you, you're probably one of those people that claimed it to be a great game in the first betaversion.
2012-08-17 01:14:49
You're ignorant to even mention a sport and a video game. You can give all the feedback you want, i don't hate on the game at all. Is still better than where 1.6 is going
2012-08-17 01:16:55
have you ever heard about 'esports'? it's a pretty cool thing, and the thing is that it's a fair comparison and not ignorant at all. Soccer has been the same sport since forever.
2012-08-17 01:26:24
The only thing that was close to any sport in "esports" was CGS. But we saw how that ended. And if you are willing to reply about soccer and counter strike from cs:go, don't even bother
2012-08-17 01:30:49
Soccer has been the same for a long time.
CS has been the same for the long time.
Tell me exactly why this isn't comparable please.
CS has been the same for the long time.
Tell me exactly why this isn't comparable please.
2012-08-17 01:31:49
I'm even surprised that a Swede is talking about football
2012-08-17 01:36:12
just used it as an example, don't really care about football except for when the national team is playing. hockey/tennis/mma is where it's at yo
2012-08-17 01:40:16
You can't compare an international sport witch you Swedes suck at with a game that was made as mod
2012-08-17 01:43:21
you compete in both?
2012-08-17 01:47:14
It won't make you any better in football if thats what you asked
2012-08-17 01:48:43
is soccer the only sport danes are good at or what? Sorry, I don't follow the sport closely. I do know we kicked your ass in handball though.
2012-08-17 02:00:20
Sorry, suck? Im not trying to defend Sweden, Im just wondering what you base your statement on.
2012-08-19 23:15:54
haha "1.6, this?"
2012-08-17 18:49:49
Here is a swedish video where cArn explains the subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =AYg70izVM5E&feature=g-u-u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =AYg70izVM5E&feature=g-u-u
2012-08-16 22:35:06
carn doesnt even play anymore. he would just love it if fnatic can win every 1.6 tournament from now until forever because nobody else is playing the damn game. must be nice to be on top of something that is dieig off. hes like the big oil ceo's who dont want green energy to succeed and would rather live in the past
2012-08-16 22:43:31
I have not smashed anyone at all by this tweet, I'm simply trying to say that a successful eSport title starts with a game that has a big organic following base that loves playing/watching the game. Obviously this is not the case with CS:GO just yet, the game is yet to be launched and the majority of players has still not being able to give it a fair try.
I have said it before and for clarification I will do it once more: We at Fnatic will of course transfer into CS:GO when it feels right and justified. Until then we will do our best to "finish" off CS1.6 in the best possible way. Until we commit to CS:GO full-time, please consider us as a hybrid FPS team that is "open for suggestions" when it comes to CS titles.
That being said, I'm not writing this to win any sympathy from the CS1.6 crowd, nor hate from the CS:GO fans. I just want to enlighten people, and remind them that CS1.6 made it this far in eSport for one simply reason: players and fans loved the game more than life itself.
If the players will feel the same strong feelings for CS:GO is still not certain, but I can ensure you that we are not helping ourselves on the way by enforcing a transfer by propaganda.
Love the game, gl hf!
Patrik
I have said it before and for clarification I will do it once more: We at Fnatic will of course transfer into CS:GO when it feels right and justified. Until then we will do our best to "finish" off CS1.6 in the best possible way. Until we commit to CS:GO full-time, please consider us as a hybrid FPS team that is "open for suggestions" when it comes to CS titles.
That being said, I'm not writing this to win any sympathy from the CS1.6 crowd, nor hate from the CS:GO fans. I just want to enlighten people, and remind them that CS1.6 made it this far in eSport for one simply reason: players and fans loved the game more than life itself.
If the players will feel the same strong feelings for CS:GO is still not certain, but I can ensure you that we are not helping ourselves on the way by enforcing a transfer by propaganda.
Love the game, gl hf!
Patrik
2012-08-16 23:11:22
A question then: If you were still playing this game profesionally, would you and your team transfer to CS:GO?
2012-08-16 23:20:39
Great post dude! Honestly I didn't like the game in the beginning but now i'm starting to get the hang of it. If you learn the recoil it becomes a lot of fun.
2012-08-16 23:21:09
<3
2012-08-16 23:22:53
Nothing is currently happening in the CS 1.6 scene and much is going on in CS:GO scene. Do you think it's better for fragbite to not write news at all?
They have not forgot about what made them famous, you just have to accept that it is pretty dead.
They have not forgot about what made them famous, you just have to accept that it is pretty dead.
2012-08-16 23:23:31
If CS:P will succeed, I want to see fnatic playing it.
.. But that's just a dream. A few progaming teams have already made the switch to CS:GO with NiP back under the management of HeatoN, while CS:P hasn't yet released their 1.09, saying they are confident that CS:P is much more competitively-based.
The sad thing is that money is the key factor..
Don't get me wrong, I like CSP more than CS:GO because its gameplay has the 1.6 feel, but to be honest, I don't really put much faith "CS:P to be the eSports FPS title" anymore.
By the way Patrik, I wonder why did I get banned on your facebook fan page. The only thing I ever posted was a picture of you visiting Eizo (the pic competition).
Hung
.. But that's just a dream. A few progaming teams have already made the switch to CS:GO with NiP back under the management of HeatoN, while CS:P hasn't yet released their 1.09, saying they are confident that CS:P is much more competitively-based.
The sad thing is that money is the key factor..
Don't get me wrong, I like CSP more than CS:GO because its gameplay has the 1.6 feel, but to be honest, I don't really put much faith "CS:P to be the eSports FPS title" anymore.
By the way Patrik, I wonder why did I get banned on your facebook fan page. The only thing I ever posted was a picture of you visiting Eizo (the pic competition).
Hung
2012-08-16 23:25:13
Good to see there's still someone who thinks rational and who doesn't blindly follow some hype.
Don't take those comments too serious cArn. People are overreacting.
Don't take those comments too serious cArn. People are overreacting.
2012-08-16 23:27:09
pls cArn when will be announced 5 player of fnatic CS squad
2012-08-16 23:30:34
love you cArn
2012-08-17 00:14:22
Yeah, as I wrote in the thread the title was a joke :P
Im still dreaming of CSP, as you say, a game comes from an organic following base that loves playing/watching the game. I do believe that will be the case when CSP 1.09 comes out considering the love i've seen for CSP here on the forums.
Im still dreaming of CSP, as you say, a game comes from an organic following base that loves playing/watching the game. I do believe that will be the case when CSP 1.09 comes out considering the love i've seen for CSP here on the forums.
2012-08-17 00:36:27
+1000 World needs such people like fnatic staff(stuff). I feel it exactly the same way
2012-08-17 01:10:44
u da best man.
CS 1.6 is played cause it is so fucking fun and I can't say the same shit about CS:GO cause I haven't tried it out... but today I saw vid how the recoil is.. Jump and kill!!!!!!!!
CS 1.6 is played cause it is so fucking fun and I can't say the same shit about CS:GO cause I haven't tried it out... but today I saw vid how the recoil is.. Jump and kill!!!!!!!!
2012-08-17 01:38:48
Omg you won me man :)
2012-08-17 06:16:35
"I just want to enlighten people, and remind them that CS1.6 made it this far in eSport for one simply reason: players and fans loved the game more than life itself." ©
2012-08-17 08:33:21
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=175686..
WHAT YOU WANNA SAY 'BOUT THIS CARN?
WHAT YOU WANNA SAY 'BOUT THIS CARN?
2012-08-17 11:42:22
hey carn :D
2012-08-17 15:26:02
+1
2012-08-17 18:43:12
Fragbite is about Counter strike and not just 1.6 but in all fairness, why did they pay no attention to source then? all 1.6 here will probably say "IT's shit" etc but there's a crowd for that too and according to fragbite themselves its a counter strike and not 1.6 only but I like the NiP and GO that's just because I enjoy GO and I love that NiP is back but that isnt fair to all the source players, they think the opposite but yeah.. They shouldnt forget about 1.6 either, If there's a scene they should provide news but saying they should stop with GO/NiP is stupid imo since it looks like the new "BOMB"
2012-08-16 23:21:54
let me tell you something...CS:GO will go on in 1,2 months and than back to cs 1.6 ;)
2012-08-16 23:22:57
cs:go is game that passes by what you think valve will have enough money for this game by it self hahaha :D It will be bought like 10k copys from that 3k will be played then they will make a new game again LOL , how stupid is that, and yes fragbite forgot that cs 1.6 shaped them as an organisation so did alot of sites,lol let's face it fragbite , hltv ,sk-gaming,mym(old cs1.6 team) Has their communitys or have just becous of cs 1.6 after the cs:go starts to be played all those people will be lost in their community alot of inactivity and things what cs:go will be forever max 2years that it will survive let's not forgot cs 1.6 rules the e-sport scene 13 years , lol and they have balls to break that legacy that history that moments and the beauty of fps gaming ? I'm just mad becous they forgot why are they even famous i'm dissapointed in HeatoN xizt , f0rest , get right they told their fans that Gaming is Beliving and that Gaming is about Passion , not about money and look now their all going after the money like they have no bread on their table if they just could wait for 1 month that would pass, cant realy tell my feeling in this one post but that's just stupid that they throw away history and fans like we are garbage that can be recycled... Funny tho that they dont even get how much they will suffer from fans later on ... :/
2012-08-16 23:30:06
when carn has been replaced by karrigan, fnatic became the best team out there.. enough said i think
2012-08-17 00:26:23
+999
2012-08-20 10:55:42
carn and lurpis, and alot of users with honest opinions, not just biased. We just saying it. The game sucks, we dont want to play it. you want to switch, then switch. But stop telling other what to do, especially when its trying to get other trying to play a shittier game than what they alrady playing.
Its like forcing somebody to drink 10$ wine instead of the stored 300$ wine he enjoys. the difference is too much to bear, you dont want to drink it almost evne if forced.
its like driving a 73 reliant robin instead of your mustang gt 69
its like eating hotdogs on a date, istead of at a fine restaurant
its like watching van damme, instead of watching bruce lee
its like drinking pepsi instead of coca cola
its like a bad day instead of a good day
You better have a damn good reason and argument how "bad" could be better than "better", money? is that all? what if I dont give a FUCK about money? what if I want QUALIT-YYY? what then ? HUH!?
Its like forcing somebody to drink 10$ wine instead of the stored 300$ wine he enjoys. the difference is too much to bear, you dont want to drink it almost evne if forced.
its like driving a 73 reliant robin instead of your mustang gt 69
its like eating hotdogs on a date, istead of at a fine restaurant
its like watching van damme, instead of watching bruce lee
its like drinking pepsi instead of coca cola
its like a bad day instead of a good day
You better have a damn good reason and argument how "bad" could be better than "better", money? is that all? what if I dont give a FUCK about money? what if I want QUALIT-YYY? what then ? HUH!?
2012-08-17 01:02:13
of course you dont care about money because you've never made a dime playing it......
2012-08-17 02:01:48
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/250300..
zaihtam posts...
ZAIHTAM POSTS EVERYWHERE!
but have to agree , csp ftw
zaihtam posts...
ZAIHTAM POSTS EVERYWHERE!
but have to agree , csp ftw
2012-08-17 02:34:13
ROFL
2012-08-17 02:56:21
Hey dude, any good news about CSpromod? some update, tournament ?
2012-08-17 03:33:02
Good news regarding CSP itself should come soon as far as I know. After the 1.09 release a lot of tournaments and stuff will pop up, I doubt you'll miss it!
2012-08-17 03:47:31
i don't want play CS:GO.
CS 1.6 or CSpromod looks amazing, but valve and sponsors are just forcing people to play it.
CS 1.6 or CSpromod looks amazing, but valve and sponsors are just forcing people to play it.
2012-08-17 03:55:26
if you don't want to play cs:go then don't. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO PLAY lol
2012-08-17 09:02:19
Nobody's forcing anybody to play anything, grow up
2012-08-17 19:47:14
Where did he say that someone does?
2012-08-17 19:59:19
" <3 NiP "
Ok, go and play ur shitty game, and yes valve and sponsors are forcing people to play CS:DUTY
Ok, go and play ur shitty game, and yes valve and sponsors are forcing people to play CS:DUTY
2012-08-18 03:09:40
Is like saying, "Quite amused by how easy Fnatic forgot about what made them to who they are, as they drop CS for CS:GO"
2012-08-17 15:58:22
it wont happen,he said in interview at gamescom made by moscow5 LoL manager that they will play both games.
2012-08-19 19:14:47
CARN FTW
2012-08-17 20:27:06
chrisJ FTW
2012-08-19 19:31:05
1.6 cant die.... it has dominated the gaming world more than a decade. Its in our hands to keep it alive....CS:GO is a nice upgrade by valve but i would see it as an infatuation and 1.6 as love.... Long live CS 1.6....1.6 for life....fTw
2012-08-22 07:57:44
I haven't understand ( fucking algerian education)
2012-08-22 14:35:43
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