The BEST AWPers EVER in 1.6 (World's rank)
Hey guys,

For those, who have not seen yet. I would like to put here great videos. Enjoy it! AWPers/snipers were always the most spectacular for FPS-Games fans.


1) Video about top10-top7 snipers of ALL TIME:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZOZZwoW5zs (#10-#6)

2) Video about top5-top1 snipers of ALL TIME:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cArqWYFkr-E




TOP AWPers/snipers EVER rank's list:

1.markeloff
2.fRoD
3.DSn
4.shaGuar
5.cogu
6.delpan
7.KK
8.Walle
9.Sunde
10.Johnny R.


I hope you enjoy the videos, guys! Please, don't troll and don't try to make any kind of holywar! Thank you for attention!
(310 replies)
Created 2013-02-09 15:29 by: papa-paparazzi
Amazing videos, srsly. Watch it, guys!
2013-02-09 15:30:05
yeap this is great videos but in my opinion they have to swap some places walle and sunde are not 8-9 at least in top 5 actually all AWPers ware so good that u can`t even say who was in what place. ALl i can say markeloff No.1 i did`nt like fRoD`s awp he is good but i don`t like him and would`nt put him in 2 place. For me Top 5 is
1.markeloff
2.walle
3.sunde
4.KK
5.DSN/shaGuar
2013-02-09 16:02:09
walle is not consistent, i bet you just put him there because of the ace he did on train rofl.
2013-02-09 17:13:12
nope.

actually walle carried his team a lot of times and he won the awper of decade award.

walle, imo, should be top1

2nd markeloff definitly

3rd-6th delpan/coloN/friis/pasha

Post edited 2013-02-09 18:18:01
2013-02-09 18:17:48
coloN ahahaha there is no place for him sam as friis and pasha bet u never see how dose awper like shaguar kk sunde walle dsn are playing all u see are their highlights and movies
2013-02-09 19:23:49
he has been out there for a long time but he was underrated that's why organizations never picked him before:/

Post edited 2013-02-10 18:26:17
2013-02-10 18:25:44
coloN is not top awp. every body thinks that coloN is good awp because they saw his movies his fast scope kill`s but he is not smart all he can do is just good fast scope
2013-02-10 18:39:25
yes stopped readin when he mentioned colon
2013-02-11 04:53:03
coloN D:
2013-02-10 03:50:17
nope i watch many demos with him and i was watching him playing befero
2013-02-09 19:21:12
Walle was pretty much always fantastic for 6 straight years. He is the best awper, and cs player, I have ever seen...
2013-02-09 22:16:47
walle had like 5 aces with awp in his career, most against at least good teams and on lan
2013-02-11 02:18:16
johnny r didnt play 1.6
2013-02-09 19:35:00
edit: johnny r wasnt good in 1.6 how u even put him on top 10
2013-02-09 19:35:38
lol jhonny was pretty good. At his best times he was called the awp
2013-02-09 19:57:25
johnny r wasnt nearly his best in 1.6 were talkin 1.3
2013-02-10 19:22:40
markeloff <3 <3 <3
2013-02-09 15:30:57
Markeloff is for sure THE BEST. But I must say cogu should be in top3 at least!
2013-02-09 15:32:46
mad brazilian ..
2013-02-09 15:33:09
He is right though, cogu should be top3.
2013-02-11 13:17:13
hahaha
2013-02-09 15:35:16
funny .br fans attacks again.
2013-02-09 15:37:10
stfu pls. cogu - top3 awp ever.
2013-02-09 15:37:39
nou, hee iz n0t!
2013-02-09 15:38:09
troll!!
2013-02-09 15:38:26
NO.
2013-02-09 15:39:23
i think he is too
2013-02-09 22:01:17
he really is atleast top 3
2013-02-09 19:34:34
What about Sunde?
2013-02-09 15:55:07
+1!
2013-02-09 16:00:35
cogu > Johnny R

MariKTB~
2013-02-09 15:34:33
=D
2013-02-09 15:35:51
The best AWP ever and one of the best aimer ever = MARKELOFF.
2013-02-09 15:35:11
"and one of the best aimer ever = MARKELOFF." How about NO?
He was my favourite 1.6 player but seriously he isn't one of the best aimer ever! Here are many other players like f0rest, SpawN, Edward, Neo...
2013-02-09 15:39:17
dude, his role is sniper, but just look his fragmovies. he is so amazimg with ak/colt!!!
2013-02-09 15:43:00
Oh rly? Say me more, learn me please!
2013-02-09 15:44:04
...
2013-02-09 15:44:19
He just spray, mad fanboy.
2013-02-09 15:48:02
bullshit. if you saw some his spray frags it doesn't mean that he is just spray. look this:

markeloff vs FX 1v4 (de_inferno). and fuck off.
2013-02-09 15:50:50
don't say "h00ynyu" plizZzZ.
2013-02-09 15:52:53
even if he would be just spraying u have to know how to spray good to but he did`nt just spray he had a great aim. I`m not saying he has better aim than Edward neo f0rest or GTR but still he has a good aim
2013-02-09 15:58:22
+1 He has the same aim as Edward and others. He proved it so many times. But his team just need him as SNIPER!
2013-02-09 16:03:34
yeap! no body else can`t play with awp so good as he dose it. Starix try but he is really bad awp if u compare him to markeloff :D
2013-02-09 16:09:08
but starix is the best 2nd awper.
2013-02-09 16:18:31
nope what about fnatic they had Friis and karrigan. karrigan is much better AWP than starix
2013-02-09 20:14:08
Dogsh*t, mate.
2013-02-09 16:03:51
you are funny, sir
2013-02-09 16:07:11
and people who reply me, have "<3 markeloff". That feels bad.
He got normal aim skillz, not H34D$H0073RH4X0FD00M.
2013-02-09 20:13:24
yes, he got normal aim, like others. like edward, neo, forest, trace etc. just normal.
2013-02-09 22:43:24
like other snipers i mean.
2013-02-09 23:15:02
markeloff must be the most dominant as sniper. he is so damn good and clever.
2013-02-09 15:36:14
markeloff for 2nd imo


walle deserves top1 more than markeloff
2013-02-09 18:15:49
+1 walle was always #1 :)
2013-02-09 19:34:53
ofc not by a lot of reasons
2013-02-10 02:10:49
So wrong lol.
2013-02-11 11:21:56
ok

like markeloff got known only in the ends of 2009, beginnings of 2010

walle was known for some years

Post edited 2013-02-13 17:51:54
2013-02-13 17:51:34
I never said walle wasn't good, but ... It's markeloff? He is easily the most dominant awper ever.
2013-02-13 17:53:34
markeloff only came to the pro-scene in 2010...
2013-02-13 18:42:34
Yes, how does that affect his dominance? Markeloff was untouchable for an entire year. Walle was a good awper for 8 years, but he was never really 'the best', atleast not by the margins markeloff was.
2013-02-13 18:49:48
Not an entire year but he still was the best...


You can't say that markeloff is the best since he came into the scene in the "end"
2013-02-13 19:08:27
Well if you base the level of competition on the monetary prizes in competitions (Higher prizes, more competitive players, higher skill all-round), then surely markeloff, winning more money than any other team in a single year, just shows how dominant him and his team were?
2013-02-13 19:12:11
Will be remembered for ages.
2013-02-09 15:36:57
Great videos, but where is LUq?
2013-02-09 15:39:05
Retired.
2013-02-09 16:11:51
I think most of players mentioned in rank list are retired. But it doesn't matter.
2013-02-09 17:45:24
rattlesnK ???
2013-02-09 15:39:10
who?
2013-02-09 15:39:32
The BEST AWPers EVER in 1.6
2013-02-09 15:39:43
It's 1.6.
2013-02-09 15:40:11
lol
2013-02-09 15:48:04
markeloff forever!
2013-02-09 15:40:00
rattlesnk
2013-02-09 15:41:34
1.6
2013-02-09 15:42:04
does you requires and proplems?
2013-02-09 15:43:10
1.6
2013-02-09 18:14:59
super mario
2013-02-09 18:20:16
walle,sunde > KK,Delpan
2013-02-09 15:44:16
+1 to this
2013-02-09 15:44:44
that`s true but KK was good awp as well
2013-02-09 20:15:11
Sunde on #9? :P
2013-02-09 15:47:40
+1 I hope Sunde will be at least in top5 of this rank.
2013-02-09 15:54:21
He should be there for sure.

Top 1 is a joke tho.
Before 2k10 he was unknown for the 75% of community and "he's the best player of history" after 1 super dominant year in a ~ 10 yrs old game... :D
2013-02-09 17:52:29
he didn`t had strong team that`s only reason he was unknown
2013-02-09 20:16:14
I agree about the team part and he is good prolly top5 for me, but there was a bunch of talented awp's from 03 to 12.
I've just cant agree with the 1,2,8,9 positions.
Ofc everyone has their own list, but honestly when I saw marik awping he didnt amazed me at all, maybe I watched matches when he didnt performed well..example at d2 B watching tunnel and missed 4 easy shots from a stable position..and it wasnt the only one.
He has good reflexes for sure, but rly I cant agree with the best awp of history title.
If we check the most dominant teams Navi had the best year in 2k10 but if we see this part of the list, than where is vilden? 03-04 SK was like NiP in CSGO.And no personaly my favorite was Sunde, but hes not the best :>

Sry for english, Im in a hurry :D
2013-02-09 21:52:13
i know what u are talking about for me there is no 100% best awp but top 10 for me would be
1.markeloff
2.walle
3.sunde
4.kk
5.shaguar
6.dsn
7.cogu
8.delpan
9.cogu
10.fallen
2013-02-10 02:03:08
trust me mate

there was only one cogu. There wasn't any duplicate cogu.
2013-02-10 19:50:15
hahahhahah n1
2013-02-11 11:36:21
+1 bro
2013-02-11 14:06:30
vilden was good but it was in 03/04 then cs was not so strong and u can`t say that best awp of 2003 is same as best awp of 2010
2013-02-10 02:03:59
walle not on top1 ?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4hZ47aYnmWo/S_RyVzwWNCI/..

Post edited 2013-02-09 18:14:46
2013-02-09 18:14:35
thx for video. Markeloff <3
2013-02-09 15:47:47
nice videos. enjoyed =)
2013-02-09 15:50:00
2.fRoD
3.DSn


5.COGU

WTF?????
2013-02-09 15:54:38
Ehmmm... :Z
2013-02-09 15:55:35
seems right to me ?
2013-02-09 17:07:22
Markeloff is for sure the most dominant and the most amazing sniper ever in 1.6. But guys, why Sunde is only @ 9 place?
2013-02-09 15:54:46
markeloff > cogu > walle
2013-02-09 15:57:18
+1 but rank says not like that :x
2013-02-09 16:00:25
+1
2013-02-09 16:07:01
+1
2013-02-09 16:32:34
Markeloff top ? :) NO
2013-02-09 16:03:17
And who is?
2013-02-09 16:04:08
ahaha. right!

prayerwOw for top1! prayerwOw for PREZIDENT!!
2013-02-09 16:04:38
:DDDD
2013-02-09 16:05:00
hahahahahahahahaha
2013-02-09 22:06:55
lol and why not?
2013-02-09 16:05:06
lol could be but imo top1 should be for walle

2nd definetly markeloff and 3rd delpan
2013-02-09 18:13:56
walle wasn't that dominative. and for delpan... maybe in top10, but no chances to be even in top5.
2013-02-09 18:37:56
for me was walle so much better then markel ... markel was good in 2 years of playing .. walle so much more :) yes Markel has amazing reflexes but when I take history of CS , I say then he cannot be top1 :)
2013-02-10 10:46:20
... no one was dominant for more than 2 years. markeloff was amazing like for 3-4 years. that's all. and he played against walle too. if you are interested in.
2013-02-10 12:28:35
1) markeloff
2) walle
3) cogu


markeloff is like sniper GOD. but cogu should be 3rd at least.
2013-02-09 16:06:49
madcuntbrazilianshit
2013-02-09 16:17:17
wtf.. you think otherwise? cogu shouldn't be 3rd? or what?
2013-02-09 16:18:01
cogu is top2 for sure, i dont think markeloff deserves top1 for only 2 years of madnessskill
2013-02-09 16:20:26
most of the awpers werent consistent more than 2-3 years though
2013-02-09 16:21:07
he had 3 years of domination. he was one of the main reasons of his team's success. and he is not deserved? :/ he is the most dominant. every user of HLTV knew that!
2013-02-09 16:21:22
nop ur wrong>>there isnt a !top1 awp!, time changes and skill aswell
2013-02-09 16:23:07
... and markeloff was the best when CS level was at the TOP. Have you any logic in your small head or not? :o
2013-02-09 16:25:41
cs was at top in 2010? lol
2013-02-09 16:27:02
yes, in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012.
2013-02-09 16:27:25
2009 was the peek. the rest is shit
2013-02-09 16:27:55
Ah, it is really hard to discuss something with guys like you. You have no facts, just simple words. I'm tired. Bye.

Post edited 2013-02-09 16:29:35
2013-02-09 16:29:23
why should i write big shit with 9999 words ? this topic just dont deserve more :)
2013-02-09 16:30:42
troll hunter
2013-02-09 22:08:14
walle isn't that good, you can hear in the video, walle is mostly overrated cuz of his yt clips against randoms, he couldn't really compete with top AWPers. But still i would give him rank 5.
2013-02-09 16:33:39
You never saw walle play before 2009/2010 I guess?
2013-02-09 22:18:20
Your top3 is completely correct.
2013-02-10 08:59:09
by: kei.
#63
1-COLON
2013-02-09 16:09:12
1ºEduzin
2ºton
3ºmarkeloff
2013-02-09 16:12:44
no... don't post such bullshit. because of you people call all BR people "MAD FANBOYS". '-'
2013-02-09 16:16:19
markeloff sunde dsn
2013-02-09 16:18:04
good, but -dsn +cogu
2013-02-09 16:18:55
nope.
2013-02-09 16:24:59
i would say

markeloff
frod
cogu
vilden
shaguar

delpan
walle
jungle (this wNv crazy guy)
dsn
johnny R

for me those were the best...sunde only had 1-2 years of great form..nevertheless thats my top10

Post edited 2013-02-09 16:22:33
2013-02-09 16:18:56
u all say johnny r what did he do in 1.6 lol..... maybe 1.5 and below
2013-02-09 19:37:29
1.6? nothing really in particular he retired in 2005..but he taught the community the awp basics thats why he is at every top10..same goes for heaton and a top10 rifle
2013-02-10 02:37:33
this one right here !
2013-02-10 00:35:07
1.markeloff
2.walle
3.fRoD
4.cogu
5.Sunde
6.Dsn
7.CYX(!)
8.dsn
9.Johnny R.
10.delpan
2013-02-09 16:22:22
add some more dsn's
2013-02-11 02:19:54
markeloff after 2 years was the best awp in the world.. so funny..
2013-02-09 16:29:26
After 4 years of absolutely TOP. *
2013-02-09 16:30:00
so as COGU. he wasn't so long at scene too. as shaGuar too.
2013-02-09 16:30:35
and? not 2 years. 3-4 years of domination.
2013-02-09 16:31:44
.

Post edited 2013-02-09 16:36:21
2013-02-09 16:34:08
sry

walle won the awper of the decade so he must be on top1

the rest is history.
2013-02-09 18:13:00
awper of decade before decade ends, right?
2013-02-09 18:38:20
Good list.
2013-02-09 16:30:45
markeloNNN~
2013-02-09 16:31:28
1.markeloff
2.walle
3.shaGuar
4.Sunde
5.fRoD
6.cogu
7.DSn

etc.
2013-02-09 16:32:52
nicely done
2013-02-09 16:33:37
1. dsn/markeloff/delpan/cogu
2013-02-09 16:34:03
karawan
2013-02-09 16:34:40
#1 foxj
#2 KSharp
#3 fRod
2013-02-09 16:35:55
lol :) so many patriots..
2013-02-09 16:37:26
#1 tihop
....
....
....
....
#91 foxj
2013-02-10 02:13:22
HaHahahah
2013-02-10 05:24:21
tihop > aslak
yeah, ok
2013-02-10 07:28:46
I was just playing a patriot, pff.
2013-02-10 08:23:04
)
2013-02-10 10:21:19
his nickname is fox not more foxj and #8 fox
2013-02-15 05:25:48
Where is GuardiaN ? xD
2013-02-09 16:38:36
home xD
2013-02-10 00:49:14
where kennyS???

where luq??

where foxj?
2013-02-09 16:39:05
kennyS...

in a 1.6 thread...

right....

Post edited 2013-02-09 18:12:08
2013-02-09 18:11:37
by: zzN
#209
wOw dude cant u see foxj?
he is amazing.. like top90 .
2013-02-10 08:47:08
kennyS...

in a 1.6 thread...

right....



and foxj is above top30.
2013-02-10 18:27:30
where Friis? :D where PASHA? :D

Post edited 2013-02-09 16:45:27
2013-02-09 16:43:40
They were not to be mentioned. This is TOP10 list ->EVER<-
2013-02-09 16:49:53
1.markeloff
2.cogu
3.Sunde
4.dsn
5.Delpan
6.cyx
7.walle
8.Friis
9.coloN
10.foxj

2013-02-09 16:54:48
9. coloN :DDDDd:dD:Dd:DSasDASDSADASD
10. foxj xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2013-02-09 17:08:44
-colon,foxj.
2013-02-09 17:18:54
so for u friis, cyx, foxj, colon and delpan > shaguar and cogu > walle ?
good joke
2013-02-09 22:11:49
i must be in this top, but i'm late
2013-02-09 16:57:11
1. markeloff
2. Delpan
3. walle
4. PASHA
5. Friis
6. FalleN
7. dsn
8. Sunde
9. cyx
10. kucher
2013-02-09 17:01:09
PASHA is bad AWP, u should include LUq (2006-2008 times)
2013-02-09 22:06:13
WALLE
2013-02-09 17:01:55
Seenthe video before but damn it's good :D
2013-02-09 17:07:33
markeloff THE MAN.
2013-02-09 17:18:40
The video is good, snipers are also good players.
But I dont agree with the list, if we are talking about the "best EVER" than vilden,walle,kSharp,Johnny R,cogu or Shaguar must be in the top 3, even RWA's awp was more unique than the top 3 imo.

I would mention hpx, luq, TihOp cuz they were beasts in their prime.
2013-02-09 17:46:22
all those only nicknames. on fact the list is 80% true.
2013-02-09 18:39:04
by: jlp
#117
fRoD 2nd
dsn 3rd
shaguar 4th

HA
2013-02-09 17:50:06
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

8.walle.. AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

1.walle
2-328132131831.rest
2013-02-09 17:52:54
markeloff
2013-02-09 18:18:49
Where is LUq? :|
(look 2004-2008)
2013-02-09 19:26:28
GuardiaN for me now!!....And the best was DSn or Delpan
2013-02-09 19:46:57
good ! now return to your pokeball
2013-02-09 22:12:45
:DD +1
2013-02-10 12:36:45
LUq <3
2013-02-09 19:50:46
+1

Post edited 2013-02-10 12:36:18
2013-02-10 12:35:51
frod actually made his team #1 for a whole year when cs was at his peak.he was the driving force being coL u can't say that about anyone else except markeloff but he had even more help
2013-02-09 20:07:23
1/mark
2/walle
3/dsn
4/luq
5/vilden
2013-02-09 20:11:19
Vilden ?
2013-02-09 20:13:31
coloN should be there...
2013-02-09 20:34:40
yeah nr 1
2013-02-09 20:38:26
sixer underrated.
2013-02-09 21:58:35
markeloff NUMBER ONE (1) as should be.
2013-02-09 22:00:20
cogu
markeloff
sunde
frod
-----
rest share place as flashy shooting stars, very good for short periods before disapearing or perform horribly like delpan
2013-02-09 22:04:49
oh yeah, short period like shaguar... hmmmmm
2013-02-09 22:13:20
title say 1.6 not 1.3, but shaguar was very good in 1.3
2013-02-10 03:59:33
shaguar played 1.6 ...
2013-02-10 04:08:02
Lol you cant be serious
2013-02-10 20:20:47
where is LUq, imo he should be in top10
2013-02-09 22:07:27
Pasha is better with BIG GREEN GUN ;)
2013-02-09 22:31:37
no way, awp luq>pasha, rifles pasha>luq
2013-02-09 23:27:52
Walle. Always walle...
2013-02-09 22:19:23
markeloff play with big green very well, but only for 2 years! Remember that!

It's something like that:

1. cogu
2. fRoD
3. Sunde
4. markeloff
5. walle
6. shaGuar
7. DSN
8. LUq
9. Delpan
10. i don't really know: cyx, da_bear, approx, foxj, kk ...

Post edited 2013-02-09 22:22:26
2013-02-09 22:21:22
Every one of them was hitting his shots in his prime so you can't tell who was the best. eot
2013-02-09 22:26:58
be smart
nr1 walle
nr2 markeloff
nr3 cogu
nr4 fRoD
nr5 dsn
nr6 Sunde
nr7 sixeR
nr8 LUq
nr9 vilden
nr10 Delpan

2013-02-09 22:27:47
Friis ?
2013-02-09 22:34:58
bitch please
2013-02-09 22:44:38
So LUq is better than Delpan ? http://img.sadistic.pl/pics/0b8562909572.gif
2013-02-09 22:53:08
yeah..
i guess u were born in 2000 and know about CS scene a lot

just check out 2004-2008 seasons and stop trolling
2013-02-11 13:00:13
are u fucking kidding us ? friis is the worst awp in a top team ive ever saw !
2013-02-10 02:19:21
Are you fucking stupid?
2013-02-11 17:54:37
be smart
nr1 markeloff
nr2 fRoD
nr3 DSn
nr4 shaGuar
nr5 cogu
nr6 delpan
nr7 KK
nr8 walle
nr9 Sunde
nr10 Johnny R.
2013-02-09 22:38:24
i mean 1.6
so get out with nr10

that's your point of view fanboy

so let's try to be really smart
2013-02-09 22:46:45
lol newfag
2013-02-09 22:54:01
KK instead vilden :O nt
2013-02-10 00:38:06
Why would you ever not put markeloff first :/
2013-02-11 11:23:43
because CS scene was born earlier than 2009
2013-02-11 13:06:17
Football was born before 2009, it doesn't mean Messi isn't the best player of all time?

No-one in the history of CS has been as good or dominant with the AWP as markeloff.
2013-02-11 13:18:18
Messii is awesome, but we can say that he's the best of all time.. the same in CS, markeloff is fuckin awesome but for me he's not the best of all time

maybe u've different point of view than me
2013-02-11 14:09:41
Its impossible to make a top. Example some guys started play cs in 2000 and stopped in 2004 or 2005, or started play cs in 2005 and stopped in 2009 or 2010. Its impossible, you can do like best awp since 2000-2004, 2004-2008, 2008-2012 or other system 2x2 years, 3x3 years.
2013-02-09 22:42:10
possible ;D
2013-02-09 22:43:37
not really, u can compare different players and teams even if they havent played together on the same time...
2013-02-10 02:21:49
FalleN is :D
2013-02-09 22:50:23
frod 2. hahah. Fucking americans..
2013-02-10 02:09:56
by: :]
#198
Just because we're americans, that doesn't mean frod is on the second spot because we WANTED to. Frod was and still one of the best awpers that the game has ever seeing. If you don't know anything about the Counter-Strike 1.6 scene back in the days and a couple years ago, then you shouldn't be talking shit about the ranking that this guy made.

Post edited 2013-02-10 02:26:56
2013-02-10 02:25:57
So basically you are telling me that disagreeing about frod's position in this top10 means that I don't know anything about cs scene? American logic. Actually I know almost everything about professional cs scene since the very first cpl tournament.

Only an american could rank frod in top2. Frod was very low sens player who had a pretty stable and passive playing style. Yes, he hit his shots almost every time but then again playing as passively as he did doesn't require that much skill. He almost never went aggressively like delpan or markeloff. Not even trying to get an important entry frag is a very bad teamplay and just caring about own stats and glory.

I would rank him in top9 after markeloff, walle, cogu, delpan, ksharp, johnny r, aslak and sunde.

I have watched this guy's videos before. In every single top10 video he has put americans there who should never be there.

Sorry for grammar. Haven't slept for 26 hours for now.
2013-02-10 08:53:11
+1!
2013-02-10 18:30:23
lol, saying American logic and picking aslak as a top10 awper.

aslak was sick but never in the top10, we are talking about 8 years of a game and aslak was on a top10 team for maybe 2 years.
2013-02-10 19:37:00
I just look how much damage they did to their enemies during their primes and how skilled they were. Aslak was owning markeloff during that time. Almost in every game. :P Aslak also was the fastest awper in the scene during his prime. Wanna tell me one who was faster? And I'm not being patriot It's just a fact.

And what the phrase about american logic has to do with me picking aslak in my top10?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f50l1yNdLo4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D32n4uNpuvs

Post edited 2013-02-10 21:23:28
2013-02-10 21:21:11
Because you said only an American would pick fRoD for his top10.

Being a good awper is way more than just being fast, and also I can't agree with aslak owning markeloff every match, that would mean WinFakt was acutally beating NaVi on a constant basis which they where most certainly not.

Being a good awper is helping lead your team to great victories. That is why we talk about walle, dsN, markeloff, Sunde, Delpan, fRoD. These players played the awp great on teams that did international damage. Sure fRoD isn't as good as dsn, Sunde and Markeloff where in their teams prime, but he was constantly good for coL and later E.G

I'm not saying by any means aslak wasn't good, but he didn't propel his team to any heights.

2013-02-10 21:41:41
Read my first post again.

"Aslak _ALSO_ was the fastest awper." For you this means that I was saying that only being fast is important?

You clearly didn't even watch winfakt matches since aslak was the main reason they even could keep it up with the top. He was by far the most skilled player in his team and was top fragging almost every game. And I watched every match where WinFakt played.

You are just watching the result the team got which is wrong. We are talking about THE BEST AWPER (how important he was for the team and how much damage he did).
2013-02-10 22:06:26
All I am saying is aslak wasn't one of the top10 awpers in 1.6 for the entire era it was.

Saying that, he was probably better than walle in his prime and even dsn, but that still doesn't means he accomplished anything. You should read what I said.

I said to be considered a top awper you have to have helped your team to some achievements, not just be amazing with the weapon.

Thats at least my opinion, that to be considered one of the best you have to have shown it with results and not stats. All I'm saying, aslak might well be one the most raw skilled awpers, but in my books that doesn't make him one of the best since he didn't even show that in lets say a Grand Final.

But if you disagree and would list them with just skills with the weapon I'm pretty sure we would have to put coloN on that list as his raw skill with the awp was AMAZING.

p.s I'm not arguing with you but just stating my pov - didn't mean anything bad by saying that you shouldn't list him as your top10 awpers, just it was funny how you called the american an idiot for putting fRoD there but jumped straight onto listing aslak
2013-02-11 00:44:23
I Didn't call him an idiot.

Colon was awesome yes but very unstable. I would still rank him as #10.

He ranked frod as #2 and I ranked aslak as #7. See the difference. We talked about a fucking second place, nothing else. Do you really think that frod deserves it? All those who I mentioned were more skilled and fragged more than him. I don't care if he was in winning/losing team because he played always the same slow and passive play. Always just taking secure frags. Yeah, so much skill needed.

Btw, it's mostly the IGL who makes the team work and leads it to victories, not the awper.

"So basically you are telling me that disagreeing about frod's position in this top10 means that I don't know anything about cs scene? American logic."

You could've even read this before replying.
2013-02-11 08:36:31
if its so easy to do and so simple why didnt winfakt do this and win an international event on the level of eswc? oh maybe because its not so easy.....and honestly if your team isnt winning events or atleast placing top5 at multiple events why even bother putting them up there.

anyways i dont think frod deserves number 2 but hes definatly top5 of all time and im a 3D fan and i hated coL, but saying people like delpan(super inconsistant), ksharp(1.6 was not his prime), johnny R.(again 1.6 was not his prime either), and alsak(who probably wouldve been up there if not for when he started playing international events i.e. if he had more time) sounds like anti american bias coming from you.

id list the top10 as:

#1 cogu(was known as a top5 sniper since mibr came into the scene years ago)
#2 markeloff(one of, if not the main reason na'vi was so good(i.e. top3 team of all time)
#3 ShaGuar(was a main force along with method for NoA)
#4 frod(the main fragger for coL, pretty much the reason they won eswc pretty dominate ct side awp in fact id say he has the best ct side awp of anyone ever)
#5 walle(i honestly think if he wasnt calling strats he would be higher on this list. even with calling starts made amazing shots that allowed sk to be the top5 team they were)
#6 sunde(amazingly consistant but he could also go off and have an amazing game when his team needed to be carried)
#7 LeX(honestly surpised no one meantions him. back when virtus.pro came into the scene he was the main reason they were placing where they were)
#8 dsn(another consistantly great awper if forest or gtr werent there i think he wouldve secured more frags and probably be higher on this list)
#9 trace (when sunde left mtw he stepped in and honestly imo improved the team. but as far as pure awp i think sunde was better)
#10 vilden(helped carry EYE to a cpl title along with hyper/iskall, then went on to sk/nip/sk where it never really came together like it did when he played for EYE still an amazing awp
2013-02-15 05:52:37
"if its so easy to do and so simple why didnt winfakt do this and win an international event on the level of eswc? oh maybe because its not so easy.....and honestly if your team isnt winning events or atleast placing top5 at multiple events why even bother putting them up there. "

I don't have a clue what you are talking about there.

Delpan wasn't super inconsistant. There was just games he played too aggressive which didn't pay off everytime.

Yeah well I didn't know this was just about 1.6. That's why I also listed Johnny R and ksharp who were just dominating everyone with the big green during their primes.

My opinions have nothing to do with the countries they are from. If I hate american players why would I have ranked ksharp in top 6?

Shaguar for sure isn't in top5. He was good all-rounder like SpawN but not that good awper.

And again frod was super passive player and of course it's "easy" to win the round and get "easy" kills when your teammates first go and kill 2-3 enemies. Players like delpan, aslak and markeloff were much more aggressive and took great entry frags which helped rest of their teams a lot.

Post edited 2013-02-15 06:07:07
2013-02-15 06:03:44
Let the experts tell you.
http://www.fnatic.com/content/4089/dsn-cogu-is-the..
2013-02-10 02:26:14
It's funny because none of these awpers are even top 10 in CSGO. 1.6 players can't aim, minus the 3 that are in NiP.
2013-02-10 05:03:14
Or you know, it's because the guns feel completely different in 1.6 and csgo - all of them. Most of the players I play with started with 1.3-1.5 way back when. They don't dare go back to 1.6 for one reason: It'll fuck up their aim/spray way too much if they go back. The games are far too different and reinforce different habits - not only with shooting, but with movement, nades, execution.
2013-02-10 07:34:38
the guns' feeling aint that different since the latest update with recoil and tapping fixed.
2013-02-10 13:59:52
That's not absolutely true. Recoil has been "fixed" (I'd say improved) but it's not 1.6 style. I still find hard to make a one shot when I have som enemy that I caught with his pants down when he's in mid-far distance, while in 1.6 it wasn't a problem.
This happens more with the m4 than the ak although.
2013-02-11 12:32:40
So you're saying these 1.6 players suck in GO because it's not the exact same thing as 1.6? Just more proof of how talentless the 1.6 community is minus the 3 swedes.
2013-02-15 04:25:25
You are a total idiot. Sorry.
2013-02-10 08:56:02
typical response from talentless onesixer. unable to use logic and form an argument so you call names like a cry baby.
2013-02-15 04:29:20
I can form an argument and another if needed. Lets have an interesting conversation then, ok?

You can't form one neither since you call me talentess onesixer eventought you have never seen me playing. Makes sense a lot sense too.

How you gonna prove your senseless argument "1.6 players can't aim"?. I have played 1.6 many many years and when I play games like mw2 or go for the first time I'm immediately above all other players on the public games aimwise.

Of course I call you an idiot if you generalise all 1.6 players as bad aimers or as players who can't aim at all, which is very idiotic argument. Idiotic argument by an idiot, makes sense right?

Post edited 2013-02-15 04:38:10
2013-02-15 04:37:30
So your argument is 1.6ers can aim because you can pub stomp in mw2? LMAO
2013-02-15 04:59:47
Ehm, what? I talked about aim. You seem to have difficult times to understand the logic there? I said I have better aim than those players who in your words should have much more better aim than me.

Your argument was so idiotic that I don't find any good reason to even talk more about. Give me some data so I can believe your funny argument. Now you are going to ask data from me, but the conversation started because of your argument so you must prove it. Then I can see if I can prove mine. If I can't, you win.

Btw, all of team ckras players were former 1.6ers, funny how they were top1 world in css for quite a long time.
2013-02-15 06:14:46
ckras was never "top 1 world in css for quite a long time". you are an extremely ignorant person. i never said mw2 players should have much better aim than you, you came up with a stupid meaningless example. pls go away, it's obvious you know nothing.
2013-02-15 07:48:46
You said 1.6ers can't aim. It was example that they CAN aim.

Well they were one of the best.

You still didn't prove your argument. :)

Post edited 2013-02-15 08:09:40
2013-02-15 08:09:25
None of saucage AWPers can't be in top100 AWPers in 1.6.
Sad, but troo.
2013-02-10 20:26:32
troo 2013-02-10 20:26:32
R.I.P. English
2013-02-11 12:33:49
its funny because cs:go is pure shit, as cs:s
2013-02-15 03:04:14
get_right
2013-02-10 09:20:08
Haha
2013-02-10 10:20:45
Really nice videos! If you watch how markeloff plays with awp it is clear that he is head and shoulders above everyone else.
2013-02-10 13:34:20
+1
2013-02-10 18:30:12
Markelove <3 !!!!
2013-02-10 14:47:18
In this thread i have seen so many comments for walle for top 1...
I don't critisize them but

just help me and show me the good performance of walle against very good teams like na'vi, fnatic, mTw, etc... ??? and if there is then was that performance for only one match or consistent???

Is there any??? then pls give a link of that demo...
2013-02-10 20:00:00
Na'vi wasn't born when walle was playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt1H24DW7Oc - some frags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWkyQpr7Sqk - 1on5 vs Pentagram

He was a good sniper but also could carry rifles, similar to markeloff
2013-02-11 12:30:11
yes what u told, i agreed with it

but thread is about top AWPers and according to me u will get more numbers of link of markeloff against good teams like sk, g5, fnatic, mTw, etc...

so, in comparison i will say markeloff had done better than walle in "AWP" weapon...
2013-02-11 13:47:51
Well I did not follow the CS scene when walle was playing, so I can't tell you if he deserves to be in this top 10. But from what I've seen from this player and what some friends have told me about him, I think he deserves it.

Maybe we can't find a lot of clips from him because now it's normal to make a clip when somebody does a great action, everybody can record it because streams/demos are available to download. But I think that wasn't so easy these days.
2013-02-11 17:08:31
foxj in top 10, in my opinion...
but yeahh its a lil bit hard to put him on the top..

Post edited 2013-02-10 20:14:55
2013-02-10 20:13:07
foxj top1 forever and ever!
2013-02-10 20:38:09
you should fuck a lot with your ass.. seriously! get the fuck off dumb ass nigga LOOOOOOL you´r disgusting
2013-02-10 20:56:00
mad portuga is mad
2013-02-10 21:24:28
looool fuck you ukranian boy! go search for the sun!

Post edited 2013-02-10 21:28:55
2013-02-10 21:28:10
Go search better economics and some work.
And still foxj top1!
2013-02-10 21:46:55
i have a lot of money LOOOOOL, with my money i can buy your sister to do blow jobs for me... and you come to portugal to work at the constructions LOOOOOOOOOOOL peace ma nigga
2013-02-10 22:14:59
No, you cant.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Post edited 2013-02-10 22:19:52
2013-02-10 22:19:39
LOOOOOOOOOOL
2013-02-10 22:31:10
foxj>world :D
2013-02-10 23:35:38
your moms ass > wolrd
2013-02-11 02:14:28
but for real, foxj still is impressive
2013-02-11 02:15:02
ooooooooooooooooh and your mother? god damnnn ass!
the people most see his mother´s ass for real
2013-02-11 02:31:45
tough guys on inet ;D
2013-02-11 00:29:42
foxj is not in top5000 OMG WAKE UP
2013-02-10 21:37:58
loool you are better sorry
2013-02-10 22:10:14
me not, but my dog is better for sure
2013-02-10 22:13:52
ahhh and the joke stayed at home... LOOOOOL
2013-02-10 22:16:26
:D
2013-02-10 23:35:17
sahahahahahhahah amazing post :D
2013-02-13 19:02:32
dsn one best the history!

Post edited 2013-02-10 20:41:52
2013-02-10 20:39:42
frod best ever

2013-02-10 21:46:41
400kg a good awp :D
2013-02-10 21:56:52
where`s LUq and Fallen ?
2013-02-10 23:27:49
fallen? lool
2013-02-11 02:16:11
1. Luq
2. Markeloff
3. Pasha
4. Walle
5. Delpan
2013-02-11 00:57:12
Luq ahaha

made my day :D

ohh wait pasha top3 :D made my day twice
2013-02-11 01:12:28
:DD
2013-02-11 11:40:43
wait... walle at 8th? now i laugh....
2013-02-11 01:01:38
lex sixer delpan just outside? :P
2013-02-11 02:19:37
Anyone not putting Markeloff as #1 is retarded
2013-02-11 11:24:02
+1
2013-02-11 11:40:34
anyone paying hltv.org to get their names capitalized is retarded
2013-02-11 13:50:25
aslak definitely missing on this list.
2013-02-11 12:06:36
nope, ruuit is missing.
2013-02-11 12:18:19
Sunde>KK
2013-02-11 17:10:30
Sunde > DSN
2013-02-11 17:52:59
When it comes to the "best", people just keep on arguing and arguing. It never stops.
2013-02-11 18:02:19
Yup. It's a never ending debate.

But seeing markeloff's name everywhere ought to mean something. Perhaps it is something most of us can agree on. =P
2013-02-13 19:19:46
1.markeloff
2.Sunde
3.Cogu
4.walle
5.fRoD
6.dsn
7.delpan
8.ShaGuar
9.vilden
10.SiXeR

Post edited 2013-02-13 18:19:24
2013-02-13 18:19:13
+1
2013-02-13 18:59:34
It thrills me to see so much passionate discussion over 1.6 still. I have plans for more videos, but waiting for GotFrag to return has posed some serious issues. Hopefully it'll be back soon.

Cheers.
2013-02-14 02:46:37

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