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AA preflop...
What to do?

Slow play or what? I always seem to fuck it up...
(82 replies)
Created 2011-02-10 19:16 by: Martin
all in? :))
2011-02-10 19:18:16
And only 1-2 players of 8 will call this bet :D
I prefer slow play
2011-06-17 18:17:17
Right. But depends of your money: if you have lot blinds, then is higer posibility that they fold, but if you have low blinds they will call.

Post edited 2011-06-17 19:35:38
2011-06-17 19:34:59
Yes,you must play slow.
2011-02-10 19:30:10
just fold it...
2011-02-10 19:32:27
2011-02-11 20:11:34
sick hand :D
2011-06-17 23:54:56
hehe i saw that

p.s I love when Phil Hellmuth tilting (evil)
2011-06-18 00:39:02
Omfg ! I love that xD
2011-06-18 01:56:48
slow play and re-raise all in after flop or if you are short stack allin preflop and God may help you hahaha. when I played in pokerstars a year ago all in with AA was huge badbeat at 7/10 times. they had changed the law of chances over there haha.

Post edited 2011-02-10 19:37:27
2011-02-10 19:35:00
I raise up a little bit before the preflop then the low hands go out :) & then pry god to have a great flop because a Pair in hand before flop can be interesting, but can be very low after the flop:)
2011-02-10 19:35:13
never slow. raise min 2x-3x big blind
2011-02-10 19:39:38
2011-02-10 20:29:30
alex! - HLTV.org
Just raise a little each time, and after the river card is shown, you bet the high stake. But ofc it depends on how the rest of the cards is..

But still, i just play with "playmoney"...
2011-02-10 19:47:52
playing with playmoney is a different game ;)
2011-02-10 20:41:46
alex! - HLTV.org
I know, thats why i pointed that out :P
2011-02-10 20:49:04
do not slowplay cards on holdem nl, with AA you should open the pot 3bb and ship it if there is some kind of raise.
2011-02-10 19:50:06
why the hell u wanna slowplay aces?
raise everytime, try to get max value on every street
2011-02-10 19:53:01
Depending on how you've been playing..

I would raise hard before the flop, and then check some times so maybe your opponent does a raise, and you can re-raise.
2011-02-10 20:15:53
it depends on your opponets style,if they are really agresive,just smooth call the blind and when they raise you,1:if you are short stack move allin,2:if you have enough chips:3 times re-raise,if the flop doesn't bring anithing weird "Jd,Td,9d" or "K,K,3" move all,or make a high bet to make then fold ! tha's for me the "most easy"(dont know the translation XD)way to play ;)

you should check intellipoker or pokerstrategy for poker articles
2011-02-10 20:25:22
"most easy" might be "easiest"
2011-06-18 02:06:55
yeap,sometimes i make mistakes,im srry,but thats what happens when you are human ;)
2011-06-18 17:20:03
Hard to tell because you never know what you will have at the flop and how many players are in!

But raises on the turn/river can make you win a lot more than at preflop most of the time.
2011-02-10 20:29:27
lol you people are talking trash

You raise 3-4 bb pre flop, if someone raised before you, you raise him back. If there were re-raising preflop, like someone raises, you re-raise and he/she calls, then you should get it in on like 100% of flops.

If you raised preflop, and someone just called, you always bet the flop, turn and the river unless things get scary.

There are spots where you should fold aces, like versus someone who is nitty, that called your preflop raise, called flop bet and raised your turn raise you are like always drawing to 2 outs.

good luck
2011-02-10 20:29:48
preflopp? you should almost always raise (standard raise 3-4bb)...Except if you are in a early position...then you should consider limping and hope that someone else raise so you can reraise.

Post edited 2011-02-10 20:35:15
2011-02-10 20:33:58
LIMPING? yaya when you limps someone catch shit and beat you what a brain....
2011-06-17 19:28:53
what are you talking about? i know how to play poker trust me...its you that dont understand what i mean..one way to play AA in good early position is to limp and hope that someone raise and then you reraise...ofcourse it isnt the best move always..but on some tables...in EARLY position it can eb very effective.
2011-06-17 21:14:06
if you play with fishes, and you limp with aa you can lose very quickly
2011-06-17 22:57:13
openlimping in general is just not the way to play well

Post edited 2011-06-18 00:02:26
2011-06-18 00:01:35
Well i think it is sometimes..and it works well for me.
2011-06-18 01:29:48
Well you might personally think that but from the point of view of game theory, it really is pretty bad. I can see the reasoning behind openlimping/limping in general of some inexperienced players but it's just way off. I can't really think of any situation where openlimping would be the most profitable play, but for limping I can think some (e.g. shorthanded low stakes cash game, 100bb stacks, some of the players before you have limped and you are in sb w/A2s).

Not gonna go too deep in to the subject, otherwise this post would end up being too long!

Post edited 2011-06-18 01:54:25
2011-06-18 01:52:47
Well ok i understand thats ur opinion..i still think this is a good move in the right time vS right opponents...maybe it isnt a good move for most people then..but i think i can use it...and that it can be more profitable at times :D.
2011-06-18 02:20:46
It's not an opinion, it's a proven fact! ;D Obviously against brainless fishes you can do that and don't have to balance your limpingrange (wow what a term, makes me wanna puke :D) with some mediocre hands, but it won't still be the most profitable strategy. But hey, I don't wanna bitch around and I respect your opinion. I just like to talk about poker, no matter what's the subject :)

Actually now that I started thinking more about it, I came up with couple of veeery theoretical situations (which would most likely not happen in real life) where I could openlimp AA. So I guess that you're partly right, at least in theory! I kinda jumped in to a pool full of piss now with this statement, didn't I? :}}

Post edited 2011-06-18 02:39:52
2011-06-18 02:34:26
Well its not a fact..it is no best way of playing a hand...you have to sit at the table..know the players...i also play other hands in a similar way so all and all i know it is good for my game..sometimes it can be a good move and you can make more if you play the hand like that...and i think it is important not to do the same thing every time.

Post edited 2011-06-18 03:12:09
2011-06-18 03:11:06
slowplay, but not too slow ;)

always bet a small amount of money, but not too small? 4-6x BB or 40-70% of the pot :)
2011-02-11 01:52:40
Keep raising 2x times the big blind each turn....after the river bet big or go all in
2011-02-11 01:59:28

Nuff said! hahahahah
2011-02-11 02:16:18
GoMeZ - HLTV.org
i usually call, or min raise

wait till the flop, check

after that depending on the card, i raise x3 BB

and eventually go all in if needed.
2011-02-11 03:13:45
That's a terrible play, actually :)
2011-02-11 09:59:41
ill read u like book, if u make plays like that against me :D
2011-06-18 00:41:52
it depends on your position at the table and the players with you are playing. if they are slow players then you must raise a bit, ir they're agressive players just call and wait for them to raise for you so you can suck them to the nuts.
2011-02-11 03:42:14
Seems like nobody knows anything about poker here, lol...

What to do with AA is mostly depend on your position and on the opposition players, but there is a FACT that you cant ignore, which is:

With AA in hand preflop you have the BEST possible hand, with the highest chance of winning. If you slow-play it, you give a chance for other players hands to develop. I recommend you to go agressive with monster hands. I enraged so many times when I analysed my game and realised that i should have raised the hand instead of check or call. In poker if you don't risk your money you won't win anything at all so don't be afraid of a big raise in preflop with AA. Someone will call, or if not you atleast won the blinds and didn't risk a bigger amount of money by getting into a battle that you won't surely win.
2011-02-11 05:59:25
bro,everybody knows that,but you only recive AA 1 or 2 times max every 4 hs play probably,so if you are smart and you analyze the game a little bit you should try to "play your opponents" ,i mean play according to their style and try to decieve them to get the max money out of your hands,so "at least won the blind" is not a good advice,actually there not a correct way of playing poker, i mean there's no formula,you have to figured it out by yourself while you are playing :)
2011-02-13 04:14:45
I recpect your opinion, that's how you play. :)

I play poker for years now, mostly cashgames or low-money sitngos, and as I experienced that I benefit more from agressive play. Of course against some superagro players or lowskilled "callers" you need to play it tight. As I said it depends on the exact situation, but I if you won't show some power preflop a lot of players will call and it significantly reduces your chances of winning the hand. It's a fact sir. :)
2011-02-13 11:34:13
UTG - raise 3-4BB
MP - re-raise after raisers or limpers, 3-4BB if u'r 1st raiser.
HJ/CO/BU - good raise for 3-4 limpers, not so big re-raise(2-3x) for 1 raiser-1 caller(this option depend on mostly of ur chips amount and ur opponent's chips amount, cuz u can also have the 100% push situation). U can also go all in if u have raisers and re-raisers(to be 1vs1 1vs2 in pot).
MB/SB - it is always agressive playing bcuz u are on worst position w/o information then flop is.

p.s.: dont love AA so much in multipots, dont love AA so much if good opponent have shoved his chips on tern or river, but think about his range to do it.
Keep ur mind up and practice a lot. It is only the way to understand how to play AA right and not only AA.gl
2011-02-11 06:34:53
Perfectly said Sir! :)
2011-02-11 09:12:16
call, see the flop, if its dangerous raise a little more, else check, at the end raise more (if its not too dangerous)

Post edited 2011-02-11 09:03:15
2011-02-11 09:02:36
Actually, it depends on your position. I'd suggest to slowplay it (or maybe minraise), if it's in one of the first positions, if it's one of the last positions, you should make something more serious, but still, it depends on situation and the players around.
2011-02-11 10:35:55
it depends on so many factors that you cannot say what is the best play

- stack sizes
- position
- action before you
- action you think will develop after you
- stakes you play
2011-02-11 20:18:51
2011-02-13 04:15:16
2011-04-09 13:38:44
Oh My God, you really are the chosen one.
2011-06-17 21:43:46
well, depends on your position & other raisers
if I'm in a tourney, late, I ussually limp, re-raise, in early, I raise 3x,4x, depends on bb :)
2011-04-09 13:34:06
if you are in the small just raise to 1,500 or 2,200 because the player from big bling will play it.

after the flop you can check and let him bet.
2011-06-17 18:40:39
Well AA is the best possible hand and what I do is play pretty agressive with that. Of course it all depends on other players, previous hands, online or not and of course other hands.

The problem is if someone flops a set or a draw and you get nothing. With preflop AA and fe flop has two high hearts youre gonna need to push the AA early on
2011-06-17 18:51:29
of course you need to reise, if some one reise before you, you need 3-bet its simple sir, never do all in
2011-06-17 18:53:20
Are you guys talking about Poker? :D
2011-06-17 18:53:50
and, if you dont know what do with these hand you need to watch more videos, read some books, and etc good luck you only need LEARN!
2011-06-17 18:55:00
never all in even with 3 aces in your hand :D, no just slow play you never know what your oppenents can have in the flop etc..
2011-06-17 18:57:43
I need to start playing poker.
2011-06-17 19:03:36
2011-06-17 19:45:20
raise/3bet or push AI so hard? :D
2011-06-17 19:05:58
Antwerp Aces!
2011-06-17 19:33:40
I think you'd have better chances for a proper answer at www.pokernet.dk :p
2011-06-17 19:36:43
Need backup :S
2011-06-17 19:40:38
Raise enough to eliminate those guys wit low cards. If you raise too much they fold , if you check , they can get something good in flop with low cards.
2011-06-17 19:42:56
Some great tips here :DD Internet pokerz isn't dead indeed!
2011-06-18 00:05:25
internet poker got banned in the states.........
2011-06-18 00:42:50
What kind of player are you Martin? That would help guessing
2011-06-18 01:47:35
raise 3x bb

2011-06-18 01:55:08
2011-06-18 03:54:34
Just fold, there is going to be someone with 2-4 offsuit who will end up getting a full house. Ok, serious. I could go all-in or play slow, it would completely depend on the situation. How did you play your previous hands and how did they plays theirs. What do you expect them to think about you. I often like to slowly drag players into the game by gradually increasing my bets and make sure they can not go back, AA is the best possible hand but that still doesn't mean shit if everyone is going to call your all-in. Start slow and increase your raises every round until the river where you can make your final call based on the strenght of your hand. Anyway, poker sucks.

Post edited 2011-06-18 05:33:09
2011-06-18 05:32:02
why does it suck? because you suck at it? --'
2011-07-28 00:15:57
no because I earn the 5 fold of what professional poker players earn with a job that is much more rewarding and challenging

Post edited 2011-07-28 03:11:01
2011-07-28 03:10:37
slowplayin/playing passively
after river if u have nuts ofc, go all-in, like ur bluffin
2011-07-28 00:03:41
[ ] games are dead
2011-07-28 00:12:56
if you wanna slowplay AA... learn to fold it postflop like any other pair.

holding on for dear life on a coordinated board till the river just cuz it's AA is why people avoid slowplaying it.
2011-09-15 20:07:06
if you play online
2011-09-15 20:26:00
Fuck poker! In the ass!
2011-09-15 20:50:44
you bet 3 big blinds. allways re-raise if other player raise,try to up the bet(fact that your opponent) to 1.5, insite it to the all-in from your opponent. always try to go all in before reaching the flop. but you can choose to play passively is not as long as many players and you have position on them.
gl in the tables :D
2011-09-15 20:57:47

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