AGAiN win WCG 2009
By: Nix0n
Time: 2009-11-15 08:27
Event: WCG 2009

AGAiN won the 2009 edition of the World Cyber Games with a 2-0 win over fnatic.

The match began on de_nuke, where AGAiN made use of the advantage of playing on defence, winning the first half 9-6. But that did not impress fnatic, who responded in the same manner, until AGAiN rediscovered themselves and set the score at 15-13. With two map points at hand, the Polish giants could not apply the finishing touch, allowing the Swedes to level the game on 15 rounds.

Several overtimes then followed, but AGAiN would close the curtain in the fourth overtime, sealing  a 28-26 victory.


The match was then moved off the main stage to the regular tournament area, but that did not affect AGAiN. On de_train, a lively start from fnatic earned them several rounds in a row as they stormed to a 7-1 score, when AGAiN finally managed to respond, taking the game to 8-7 in favour of the Swedish side at half time.

But AGAiN came out strongly in the second half to catch up, eventually setting the score at 15-10 in their favour. fnatic attempted to come back into the game, winning the next two rounds, but the Polish squad made sure to confirm their superiority, winning the match 2-0.

by: nika
#1
gj
2009-11-15 08:27:58
THIS IS WHY I LOVE THIS GAME...
2009-11-15 08:40:54
+1
2009-11-15 08:46:39
can't agree more, but it's a bit wrong factwise .. fnatic was leading 15-11 at some point =)
2009-11-15 09:33:25
+ 100000000 :D
2009-11-15 09:10:48
+1000000
2009-11-15 09:22:52
nix0n it was the other way around on nuke, it was fnatic who couldn't finish them off and the poles with the comeback :)
2009-11-15 08:48:09
Agree.
2009-11-15 08:56:00
From this time, they are ranked first in the world!Poles, Well done!Congratulations
2009-11-15 09:13:00
they can't be racked first with only a event ;)
maybe 2nd (:
2009-11-15 14:23:46
Exactly, it was 15-11 for fnatic, and AGAiN managed to get back for 15-15.
2009-11-15 08:57:18
Every gentlemen,attention please!
Could you tell me where can I download the WCG final demo of Again vs fnatic?
Do me a favor please?Good guy!^_^
2009-11-15 13:09:28
http://www.wcg.com/6th/tv/tv_main.
2009-11-15 13:46:47
www.wcg.com/6th/tv/tv_main
2009-11-15 14:20:58
"
This page requires authorization to access" ;/
edit: nm

Post edited 2009-11-15 17:31:28
2009-11-15 17:21:35
All I see is some Chinese text..
2009-11-15 21:24:38
NO...All I see is Korean
2009-11-16 08:12:56
There is no difference to me. xD
2009-11-16 23:06:18
meh . . .
2009-11-15 19:54:01
Man it didn't work that good. :D
2009-11-15 21:24:17
:-( too bad. I thougt I was doing something right this time. ( :D)
2009-11-15 21:55:32
It's ok, one more try!
2009-11-15 22:18:33
GG AGAiN!
2009-11-16 07:51:15
n1 !
2009-11-15 08:28:00
HELL YEAH !!
2009-11-15 08:28:03
by: krang
#4
flag ftw
2009-11-15 08:28:03
YEEAAA! Middle finger to management of:
Wicked Gaming
Vitriolic
MYM

Think twice before you dismiss our golden five!
2009-11-15 08:28:05
+ Milion ^^
2009-11-15 08:29:10
by: f4ce
#46
agreed
2009-11-15 08:29:25
AHHAHAH :DDDD (_)_)==========D
2 eswc, 2 wcg = x4 world champions
2009-11-15 08:29:37
and don't have a organization :XX

2009-11-15 14:34:24
+1

Brilliant

I love Polska

I love neo
2009-11-15 08:30:03
fck yeah!
2009-11-15 08:31:19
I guess that's what AGAiN had to show too :)

CT side 3 AWPs by LUq, Kuben and Neo was awesome.
2009-11-15 08:31:58
+5x30
2009-11-15 08:39:45
yes
2009-11-15 08:45:58
#1
2009-11-15 08:28:05
:) gj
2009-11-15 08:28:05
by: aspxl
#8
they deserved!

2009-11-15 08:28:07
gratz! just what they needed
2009-11-15 08:28:11
one of the best matches, ever.
2009-11-15 08:28:11
+ 1 to infinity BEST EVER!!!!!!!!
2009-11-15 08:37:26
T_T congratulations again
2009-11-15 08:28:12
Nuke O.O

best Ever
2009-11-15 08:29:03
AGAiN!!
2009-11-15 08:28:14
And where is BLIXTY and company?!!! : DDDD swedish ignorant bleh... they must learn humility

GG AGAiN : )

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:29:35
2009-11-15 08:28:15
+1
2009-11-15 08:30:48
+ ;D our lovely Blixty xP
2009-11-15 08:36:21
neo > blixitiy
2009-11-15 11:00:18
fanboy retards :')
2009-11-15 12:57:19
GJ !!
2009-11-15 08:28:16
by: SKyi
#15
Good Job :> LOORD THE BEST PLAYER OF THIS MATCH! BLIXTY WHERE ARE YOU KNOW?!

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:29:00
2009-11-15 08:28:18
+1
2009-11-15 08:31:06
where are you now* :P
2009-11-15 08:42:03
BLIXTY is alredy sick of is guts....if he enter in this fanboy's news he will die...hahahah


Post edited 2009-11-16 12:53:27
2009-11-16 12:52:24
GREAT MATCH!
2009-11-15 08:28:30
by: r0b0
#17
POLSKA
2009-11-15 08:28:34
POLSKAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
2009-11-15 08:28:36
NEO, the legend
2009-11-15 08:28:36
Yea Yea GG <3 NEO
2009-11-15 08:28:37
the team without organization is the best team in the world right now! hahaha
2009-11-15 08:28:38
If they won one match, i doesnt mean that they're best in the world.
2009-11-15 08:53:56
they didnt won one match , they only won whole tournament :)
2009-11-15 09:55:44
fnatic won several this year. This is the first from the poles this year (correct me if i'm wrong). With WCG, AGAiN are 2nd max! but anyway great job polska!

Post edited 2009-11-15 14:29:04
2009-11-15 14:27:41
2 x eswc
2 x wcg
son ;)
2009-11-15 09:59:35
Their last WCG was three years ago..
2009-11-15 14:22:05
don't say shit son , fnatic won everything this year , they only came 2nd @ WCG. So before posting shit , try and think about it ^_-
fnatic won ESWC 2009 , KODE5 2009 and EM III Global Finals 2009 , have fun fanboy
2009-11-15 10:21:46
i didnt remember, when was eswc 2009?
2009-11-15 10:54:06
eswc Asia masters
2009-11-15 11:29:33
by: jMS
#527
BUt you know, it's like tennis, they won a simple tournament and G5 won Grand Slam
2009-11-15 12:00:19
dude r u dumb ? IEM is the biggest tournament >_< kode5 same , just like eswc. again , dont post shit :]
2009-11-15 12:06:28
Grand Slam is winning all 4 majors in tennis or golf for example, I don't recall AGAiN winning anything else this year?
2009-11-15 14:22:50
no. grand slam is the general name for australian open, roland garros, wimbledon and US open.
2009-11-15 18:12:57
Grand Slam is also when you win the 4 major tournaments in golf, I don't know who they are, it's US Open, British Open and two more..
2009-11-15 21:29:09
french open, australian open i believe
2009-11-16 09:56:16
There is no French Open in golf..
2009-11-16 23:00:18
hmm, they didnt, they lost ESL scandinavia to mTw, in the start of the year :)
2009-11-15 14:52:48
by: f4ce
#22
YEEEEEEEES, GREAT GAME !!!! Congratulations to the GOLDEN FIVE!!
2009-11-15 08:28:41
by: Ask^
#23
NICE !! GO POLSKA !! :D
2009-11-15 08:28:42
YEAH POLSKA <3 , mTw <3 , fnatic sucks

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:28:54
2009-11-15 08:28:45
Nice.
This WCG finals will be in the history :p
2009-11-15 08:28:46
Neo wat a game :O ur no1 player. Congrats AGAIN,i hope u get all sponsers:P
2009-11-15 08:28:53
eyes burning... To MutcH AWESoME :D
2009-11-15 08:28:55
Loord player of match !

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:29:30
2009-11-15 08:28:58
yeah, loordB amazing and insane
2009-11-15 08:28:58
"Napierdalaj MARIUSZ", loord show his skill
2009-11-15 08:29:00
NICE MATCH !!!!!!!!!!!!! LAALALALALALALLA :D
2009-11-15 08:29:00
yeah nice loord <3
2009-11-15 08:29:04
*** POLSKA LoordB killed fnatic.MSI f0restwOw~ with a headshot from ak47 ***
POLSKA LoordB killed fnatic.MSI Gux^pingu with ak47
POLSKA LoordB killed fnatic.MSI dsntw with ak47

AMAZING
2009-11-15 08:29:05
POLISH POWERHOUSEEEEEEEEEEE

YEAHHHHHHH !!!

GO FNATIC HOME WITH SILVER :)))))))))))))

NEO IS THE BEST CS PLAYER ON THE WORLD !!!!!!

<3 POLSKA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2009-11-15 08:29:06
awesome team, i hope they get picked up for good now
2009-11-15 08:29:08
YEAHHH POLSKAA YOU DESERVE THAT!!

RAPE THIS FNATIC BITCHES AHAHHAAHAHHA

EAT MY SHIT FNATIC BASTARDS HAHAHAH!!!
2009-11-15 08:29:09
are u alright?
2009-11-15 08:32:19
no haha
2009-11-15 14:38:14
rotfl H@H@H@
2009-11-15 22:26:13
and still some comments never change typical german comment.

Good luck in the rest of your live
2009-11-16 12:59:48
nice kurwa!!!
2009-11-15 08:29:13
Gj, total overrun
2009-11-15 08:29:13
GG Sad fnatic.. !!
Congo Again
2009-11-15 08:29:13
hahaha I love you boys! :D
2009-11-15 08:29:22
NEO is like the neo of matrix...lol
2009-11-15 08:29:24
dude seriusly....OMG.

Don't compare Neo from Poland to neo for matrix...neo from matrix is mutch better
2009-11-16 13:01:23
are u kidding ?
2009-11-18 07:17:18
OFC
2009-11-18 10:38:00
POLSKA
2009-11-15 08:29:24
congratulations

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooord
2009-11-15 08:29:27
POLLLLLLLSKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
2009-11-15 08:29:30
very good game, gl for again!
2009-11-15 08:29:35
GG !
2009-11-15 08:29:36
POLSKAAAAA FIRESTART !

NEO n1 !
2009-11-15 08:29:41
amazing match :)
2009-11-15 08:29:43
NEO is number one !
2009-11-15 08:29:44
Loord 2 last round is amazing!
2009-11-15 08:29:45
by: wetZ
#56
Nice!!! POLAND KING!
2009-11-15 08:29:47
GG POLSKA YOU DESERVED IN YOUR FACE FNATIC OVER CONFIDENT BASTARDS
2009-11-15 08:29:51
frist of all they are the Again team....Not the polska team.

Second fnatic have more titles in a seson that Again probably all there live in c.s.

So next time think a little

GJ Goldn 5
2009-11-16 13:03:34
yes they are polska team, ask Luq, he said he won it for poland, read the interview . and this is the most respected tournament no matter what anybody try to make you believe...
2009-11-17 10:57:56
And the winner for most Defending Fanboy statment goes to....... BOB.

Get real, fnatic lose this one, so what they are the most title team this year.

And For some reasson appers the Ex-Vitriolic, EX-Wicked (do you realise they have a lot of EX in there name) and now AGAIN reappers from the Flames, and they are the best team in the world like so many fan boys say in this interview....

They are a top team, not the best, they are in the most TOP 5.....The rest of the top is hoppen to discuss. choose if you want and just leet me say tehre are some greath teams....I will make you a favor and give you some teams...

Fnatic (Sweden)
SK (Sweden)
MIBR (Brazil)
EG (USA)
Virtous.pro (Russia?)
Amazing Gaming (Ukrain)
Oxmoze (France)
mTw (Denmark) LOVE you all
TyLoo (China)
k23 (Kaz i know they don't win in a lot time, but they are my perfer underdog team)

So as you see, they simple are a TOP team, TOP 5.

yes they win one, whell purhaps now a Orga ask them to play for them, and we can all be happy about it.

CUMPS BROTHER IN BRAZIL
2009-11-17 11:11:45
man u have a big problem with yourself !

WCG is like MUNDIAL ! who cares that PORTUGAL win vs BRASIL in even OLYMPIC FINAL in FOOTBALL ?

but if PORTUGAL win in MUNDIAL FINAL... there is differen meaning.

Who cares that FEDERER lose in DUBAI ? but if he lose in WIMBLEDON... the same it is different.

The same in CS, and any other game.

POLAND (not AGAIN) win vs fnatic in WORLD CYBER GAMES. Tournament like (MUNDIAL, WIMBLEDON, etc.)

eot
2009-11-18 07:24:06
get a live....

that discussion end like a week ago.

They win ONE, and i don't like to repeat myself, i'm not taking anything away from AGAIN (Not Poland), they play like they play in the early days.

They one because they need the win, they won because they play better.
Fnatic lose because they play overCONF, and think that AGAIN, was a strong but not powerfull team. SO SUCK that FNATIC.

Still the WCG this year was not, even close to the WCG in latter years, simply because, NOT EVEN ALL COUNTRYS ENTER THE WCG.

SO to me this was like, Dubai or one you can remember.

PS: if you think just because Luq said that they win for poland they are a POLAND TEAM, you are wrong. they are Again. if you follow that logic SWEDEN got two representetives in the tournament so are They 2 SWEDEN's??


Post edited 2009-11-18 10:36:44
2009-11-18 10:35:18
#855 is right. It was a great match and they really deserve all the credit for winning against fnatic. But there's no doubt fnatic is still the best team in the world. And I wonder if mTw faced the polish team instead of fnatic on the semi finals who would have won?
Finally...We cant judge who's the best team in the world basing on the results of this tournament...with the absence of the 2nd best team in the world SK and WMF. Who knows if SK faced AGAiN in the semifinals? I wouldnt be surprised if they got crushed again just like dubai.
Well thats just my point of view.. and I'm no fan of Fnatic, actually I'm fan of the polish and neo
2009-11-21 15:00:57
Loord - national hero :)
2009-11-15 08:29:53
+1
2009-11-15 14:39:15
Nuke = best map ever played, train was awesome too ! POLSKA deserved it ;] I hope now they will get some REAL organisation :)
2009-11-15 08:29:53
by: nckp
#60
loord clutching both maps.. huge win polska
2009-11-15 08:29:58
huge match ;)
2009-11-15 08:29:58
Great match. An intense 4 overtimes!
2009-11-15 08:30:00
Now where are these guys who were writing that fnatic'll easy win.
2009-11-15 08:30:03
thats right some Fan's from sweden could say that but not me. Again play real well
2009-11-16 13:05:18
Gj ...
2009-11-15 08:30:06
LOOORDDD NAJSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! next gold medal xD
2009-11-15 08:30:07
GL Again i khnow that :D!!!!!!!1
2009-11-15 08:30:08
by: suki
#68
NICE!!!
2009-11-15 08:30:12
POLAND!!!!!
2009-11-15 08:30:14
by: wetZ
#71
N1 Taz, NEO , LUqi, loordB, kubenB!!
2009-11-15 08:30:25
for now ......
2009-11-16 13:06:48
for ever...
2009-11-17 10:58:47
This is amazing match ;D
Loord... ;D
2009-11-15 08:30:27
Great job , u deserved it , u swedes were too confident. History likes to repeat !
U ARE THE BEST GUYS,YEAH
2009-11-15 08:30:28
AGAiN 4ever POLSKAAA BIALO CZERWONI !!! LUq TaZ NEO Loord Kuben THX!!!
2009-11-15 08:30:29
by: hldr
#75
best player on train TaZ
GG
2009-11-15 08:30:31
=D!!
2009-11-15 08:30:40
neo in the past sayed that loord iis the best player in his team.
NEO&LOORD > f0rest&gtr
2009-11-15 08:30:48
Don't make retarded afirmations when you know they aren't right.
2009-11-15 08:32:50
this is neo time so stfu
2009-11-15 08:36:51
let the kid have is fun, probably just for another year, will Again win anything else.

Let it be
2009-11-16 13:08:21
hahahahahahahhahaah


4 or 5 comment from you in one TONE.

Again win only one tournament, they are only TOP, fnatic are gods. Getright my moster...

Do u want change peaple trought internet or posting on HLTV ?


it funny to reply your monotopic post...
i love it
2009-11-18 07:28:16
whell some retard kids enjoy you trying to replay to me.
2009-11-18 10:39:36
I know it is rigth, if gtr/forest> neo/loord how come they lost? see? dosent make sense..

NEO/Loord > Gtr/forest
2009-11-17 11:00:39
because 1/2 players don't make a team, and also depends on their actual play form ;)
2009-11-18 01:02:05
WHOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO P®LAND WHOOOOO HOOOOOO EUHEUHEUAHUHAUH YEAH YEAH GOOD GAME WOOOOO HOOOO OHHHH SORRY AND YEAHHHHHHHHH PROLAND PROLAND PROLAND
2009-11-15 08:30:53
GJ Again :)
2009-11-15 08:30:58
by: f4ce
#82
Loord is the player of the game... in both maps he made the game-winning frags. THUMBS UP!
2009-11-15 08:31:01
gg hope they will find a home now
2009-11-15 08:31:04
Best match of the tournament! Gratulations to AGAiN and of course to FNATIC!

THANK YOU AGAiN!!!!
2009-11-15 08:31:19
what did they give you ??
2009-11-16 13:09:39
what gives you your irony in posts ?
2009-11-18 07:29:28
and still....you try i give you that.
2009-11-18 10:40:22
+1 They gave us the best match I ever seen played @ nuke, and a intense match, they gave us a lot of entertainment, they gave us a opportunity to watch and learn CS at higest level, and they gave us the scalp of Get_WrOnG hahahaha
2009-11-17 11:04:03
What a awesome match ! Great Job G5 !
Just insane what a guys from Poland do on this tournament !
LoordB Man of This match

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:32:03
2009-11-15 08:31:25
Good job fanboys, you guys actually managed to get hltv.org down for some moments, and i assume it's not down atm cuz they de-activated the match comments.
2009-11-15 08:31:28
where is your team?
2009-11-15 08:33:13
Why do you say that? That's totally offtopic and a retarded comment from someone who has no arguments at all.
I didn't even quote Poland or Polish guys at all, you just assumed i was talking about Polish fanboys cuz ur childish and sincerely if my comment affected you or other fanboys please fo kthxbai.
2009-11-15 08:38:47
Polish fans (not "fanboys") own the world :)))))
2009-11-15 08:35:30
Well that's just "Bad Luck" then.

Oh wait ...
2009-11-15 08:39:18
Lol did it really crash? HAHA, I wrote yesterday that I hoped fnatic would win or the site would crash..
2009-11-15 14:25:03
It was really down for moments, the server wouldn't respond, and when it was back up i noticed the match thread comments had dissapeared haha :d
2009-11-15 16:59:12
HAHAHA, omg... I'm freaking clairvoyant.

Post edited 2009-11-15 21:36:37
2009-11-15 21:36:03
DA SUUUUUUUUUUKAAAAAAAA KURWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
GREATEST MATCH EVER GRATEST FINAL!!!
2009-11-15 08:31:31
sick match.. nuke = best match ever played in history
2009-11-15 08:31:37
+1
2009-11-15 08:32:53
Team3D-SK 14-1 1-14 and 3 or 4 overtimes, that is the best match in history.
2009-11-15 14:25:37
yes, very intense , best match of such high level in long time, maybe evr
2009-11-15 16:45:54
Nice play by Golden Five. =)
I hope this victory will remind some of you that neo is not alone, not a one man team.
2009-11-15 08:31:50
AGAiN POLSKA :D
2009-11-15 08:31:51
gg Polland..
I think Neo is the best player on this tournament ? Do you agree with me ?

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:33:10
2009-11-15 08:31:53
Hey!

NEO is the best PLAYER ON EARTH, NO DOUBTS ABOUT THAT NOW
2009-11-15 08:33:45
and probably more than one player....i don't know if you notice but the game is play with 5, thats why they are call the GOLDEN 5.

ANd AGAIN Nice job G5, you did very well
2009-11-16 13:13:22
BRAAAA again ;)
2009-11-15 08:32:00
Omg what an upset .. every1 was thinking that fnatic wud take it easily and there u go ! GG POLSKAAAA :D
2009-11-15 08:32:00
No-one said fnatic would take it easily, no-one.
2009-11-15 08:33:39
Many guys said it.
2009-11-15 08:38:06
tiggie now is crying because his team lose really sad
2009-11-15 08:39:20
I'm crying? LOL.
1. I don't 'have' no team at all, i see Counter-Strike as a hobby to occupy free-time i have @ home.
2. The team i usually root for is H2k gaming, you can read somewhere here a comment by me where i give merit to Again so fokthxbai.
2009-11-15 08:42:20
LOL. you must have missed all the flame by fnatic fanboys, did ya ? They are now silent, but it wasn't so before the final. Check back match thread when it will be open again and read their "comments".
2009-11-15 08:41:46
Well i didn't actually see anyone say fnatic would take it easily.
I must of missed it, my bad.

Oh and thank you for making a polite comment with some manners, unlike some who have replied rudely to me ;D
2009-11-15 08:44:14
np :) politeness isn't really an expensive thing, so why save on it. Anyway, there were actually quite a few people who said it'd be simply no chance for polska. They kept repeating that "fnatic is the best team in the world", although I don't have a clue why would anyone say that, because all they've won were some popular, but not traditionally major tournaments. Personally, I thought G5 would win from the start, fnatic lacks the winning mentality and nerves, they've lost a lot of finals over the years and never won WCG (or ESWC with the current roster). ex-PGS, on the other hand... well, you know it. The legendary Liverpool coach, Bill Shankley, once said : "if you're first, you're first. If you're second, you're nobody". Fnatic aren't nobodies of course, but there is a huge difference between being a champion and being second. To get to the final is one thing, to win it is completely another... History tends to remember only those who were first. Sometimes it's unfortunate. I feel for Carn and Forest in this case, but cannot help cheering for G5. They really are the most golden team in history of CS...
2009-11-15 09:06:24
Yes you're right, i actually feel a bit sry for carn too, as i think he is retiring and wanted to retire with a WCG gold medal.
2009-11-15 09:09:47
Liked your comment. You're one of the few who possesses adequacy here ;)

Post edited 2009-11-15 09:23:19
2009-11-15 09:22:09
oh c'mon you make me blush ^^ but yeah, adequacy is a rare beast nowadays everywhere...
2009-11-15 09:54:44
Nice English, by the way. Where and what are you studying, dude?
2009-11-15 10:36:44
heh, I'm rather teaching others ATM :) Post-graduate at my university on the chair of philosophy and methodology of science :) Writing a degree thesis and trying not to become a lector ^^ English is more like a hobby, I've had a very good school and been learning it for like 18 years for now or something. And you ?

Post edited 2009-11-15 10:47:04
2009-11-15 10:45:13
Currently studying English and Spanish at Far Eastern State University, Institute of Foreign Languages, 4th year.
It's nice to see people like you on HLTV.org :) If I were in your shoes I would post some blogs, because you really got some decent English skills. Just my opinion.
2009-11-15 10:59:35
so, you're a philologist then ? Very nice. I kind of regret I didn't make the same choice, had that boring first education as a programmer... oh, to hell with it, really. About blogging - well, I don't know. I can write, of course, just don't feel like having a decent topic to write about. And I'm a bit lazy for this )) But, perhaps, someday I'll be in a mood to blog about something.
2009-11-15 11:11:17
Actually I'm your "mirror" because I wanted to go for Information Technologies at the university, but for several reasons it turned out the other way, but still I like learning languages.
Now you have a really good topic to blog about: your opinion on WCG 2009 and everything that is connected with it.
2009-11-15 11:51:34
heheheh, maybe it's just natural to regret about choices, whatever they were ))) We always think it would be better elsewhere and will find something to complain about in any case :)
2009-11-15 11:57:52
Yeah, I believe it's the human nature too. By the way, have you watched the match CMAX.gg vs AGAIN in semi-finals? If only one tiny bullet would have hit LoordB with 3 hp from CMAX spamming the wall on de_nuke in the beginning of a round, it would have ended with the victory of Russian team and then the economy would have gone totally different, so we could have seen CMAX.gg playing in the final, not polish guys. But this is just my opinion on the fortune, not the Great Five, which I deeply respect, especially after this huge win over the Swedish powerhouse.

Post edited 2009-11-15 12:23:06
2009-11-15 12:21:59
cs has always been a game of chance. A bullet here, a round there, one second to turn to the right direction - it all can affect the result... Sides, I think poles were playing exhausted against CMAX, it seemed like they've given too much to victory over finnish team and were rather tired after it. I really expected them to beat cmax far more comfortably, but cmax were determined to make SnG effort count, it seems :) Played very well by them, but surprising. I think most people could've rather expected top4 finish from Virtus.pro.
2009-11-15 16:42:00
That's what I call Russian Spirit fighting! :)
2009-11-15 22:02:56
They kept repeating that "fnatic is the best team in the world", although I don't have a clue why would anyone say that,

Possibly because they've won 5 decent or big tournaments this year?
2009-11-15 14:27:39
the best team is the one who wins official world championship. At least for me.
2009-11-15 17:37:03
WCG isn't the official world championship of CS.
2009-11-15 21:31:00
Then you're getting it wrong.
2009-11-15 22:04:23
It isn't? Not official.
2009-11-15 22:13:13
Alright, let it be unofficial, if you wish. But still. even this remark can not take away the extreme significance and importance of this world-wide tournament among others.
2009-11-16 05:03:46
I have never taken away any importance? I'm just saying it isn't the official World Cup, and that by winning this AGAiN are not the best team at the moment.
2009-11-16 07:47:31
Disagree at this point. They are certainly not the best team in world as a whole (see statistics), but they are at the moment.
2009-11-16 08:34:26
You think so, I don't, end of discussion imo. :) I doubt AGAiN would win if they faced eachother today in another bo3. :)
2009-11-16 23:05:03
Ok, the time will tell. As it always does.
2009-11-17 05:58:09
Yep, they'll probably face eachother in WEM or whatever it's called.
2009-11-17 17:33:42
You mean Extreme Masters IV European Championship?
2009-11-17 17:37:09
No, there is some Korean or Chinese tournament soon, in December I think. TyLoo, wNv, WMF, MYM, fnatic, SK, AGAiN, mTw. I don't think I forgot any participating team there.
2009-11-17 17:38:24
-1
2009-11-16 19:14:50
+1
2009-11-16 19:09:51
Hmm u r rather mistaken. I've seen many comments like fnatic 100%, fnatic will crush them...

Nevermind that.
2009-11-15 08:42:33
Read #231 ;)
Ty for replying nicely too ;)
2009-11-15 08:45:19
There for sure were some who did.
2009-11-15 14:26:03
Just provoking zeh fanbois ;D
2009-11-15 16:59:33
I know you like to. ;)
2009-11-15 21:35:01
congratz to AGAiN! Guys you are really worthy to be the champions!!!I hope this win is not last)))
2009-11-15 08:32:03
Good job by again
2009-11-15 08:32:09
GL in looking for new home ;>
2009-11-15 08:32:14
great job polska....
2009-11-15 08:32:20
the whole golden five are godlike!
2009-11-15 08:32:25
I LOVE AGAiN !!!!! NEO is the best player of the world
2009-11-15 08:32:26
+1
2009-11-15 08:35:44
Neo is equal to a lot of players....let's see in the next match what they will do... and then probably i can say that neo is a N1 Player in the world
2009-11-16 13:16:17
are you kidding ?

NEO is like MESSI

Get_Right is live C.RONALDO, he is good but mentaly like KID !

GODLIKE
2009-11-18 07:31:46
i'm not even going to make time to replay to you kid.

Goj job in whatever you do in real live

Post edited 2009-11-18 10:45:05
2009-11-18 10:43:28
Golden`s 5 come back :D

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:33:02
2009-11-15 08:32:28
i knew that
2009-11-15 08:32:50
I wanna see the excitement on theur faces on strem. but the fucking hosters cancel the great final
2009-11-15 08:32:56
Awesome Game AGaiN.
No sponsor only FUN ! and win ! :D
2009-11-15 08:32:57
this match from nuke is like 3D Team vs SK Gaming @ CPL Winter 2005
2009-11-15 08:33:09
Best game ever :)) definetly worth getting up for :D

Go Go Golden 5 :) Loord 1on3 amazing :D
2009-11-15 08:33:13
Now some organizations pray them to join wuhahaha
2009-11-15 08:33:25
yeah! thats it. loordB really good played 2 maps
2009-11-15 08:33:26
2006 and 2009 it's amazing team , they need ESWC 2009 ;p Best won:
WCG 2006 , ESWC 2007 ,ESWC 2008, WCG 2009!
2009-11-15 08:33:35
God himself could NOT fucking STOP Neo and his teammates! :adore:

Gold for Poland guys! :X:X:X
2009-11-15 08:33:44
are you kidding me....God simply shoot a thunder from is ass and kill the G5.

What the hell???....what you can say is that..not even god drunk and with 2 arms tied beying is backs could stop neo.

2009-11-16 13:53:10
In another news everyone says "fnatic wil win" etc ...
2009-11-15 08:33:49
Congratulations Polska. Was a great game to watch!
2009-11-15 08:33:56
golden five <33 welcome back to nr.1 and i really hope you will find a stable organisation and show us a lot of more matches. loordb just amazing in overtime, he turned 2 times a 1on3 situation to his favour ans won the map.

i am really happy right now :D

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:34:25
2009-11-15 08:33:57
Zajebiscie polska !
2009-11-15 08:34:09
fnatic 16-0 16-1 where are u fnatic fanboys??
2009-11-15 08:34:14
home sleeping...what do you espect.

hahahhahaha cammon give them a break, fnatic win almost every tornament this year
And lost 2 i guess?

So if they din't win this one, next year they will try again, don't despear.
2009-11-16 13:55:41
taz & neo players of this match
2009-11-15 08:34:14
gg AGAiN !
2009-11-15 08:34:20
splendid! i really glad to know that fnatic lost this match :-) gratz polska :-)
2009-11-15 08:34:39
money?
2009-11-15 08:34:42
by: MEJt - eNeR
#303
G5 – 35,000$
fnatic - 18,000$
mTw - 10,000$
2009-11-15 09:00:28
Nice job NEO & Co ))) it's very cool for polska cybersport cummunity))) GL) for RUSSIAN FAN's)
2009-11-15 08:34:51
Gj polska <3 fnatic
2009-11-15 08:34:52
congratulations NEO and teammates
2009-11-15 08:34:59
ROFL.. not even a single Swedish reply so far in this thread.. :D
2009-11-15 08:35:00
LETS GOOO POLANDDDDDDD NANANANANA :D

WORLD IS YOURS !!!

2009-11-15 08:35:00
best team in the world, who konws bether team in Europe... XD
this is a comercial from a drink in portugal.
2009-11-16 14:00:32
AGAiN !!!!! AGAiN !!!!! AGAiN !!!!! AGAiN !!!!!
GOOD GAME
2009-11-15 08:35:01
ok lets ask for rematch fnatic Vs AGAIN

Just because you need to see it again.
2009-11-16 14:02:20
Even the match versus Power Gaming was harder than this for AGAiN.
2009-11-15 08:35:10
Do you think so? - fnatic vs again played on 1 map more than pg vs aganist on 2 maps - I think the final was harder :)
2009-11-15 08:40:37
Indeed. Not only judging by how many rounds played, rather seeing how close those maps went.
As in a comeback from 11-4 and map being de_inferno for example

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:46:29
2009-11-15 08:43:31
GJ POLAND!!!
GG FNATIC!!!
HUGE MATCH!!
BEST EVER!!!
2009-11-15 08:35:11
GG fnatic

a new xai for me ^^
2009-11-15 08:35:12
GREAT GREAT GREAT NOTHING ELSE TO SAY GREAT GREAT
2009-11-15 08:35:21
POLSKA <3333 LEGEND TEAM!
2009-11-15 08:35:22
aaaaaaaaaa hahahahahahaha i told ya they win hahaha fnatic noobs hahaha omg i gotta get some sleep but i'm to loaded with adrenalin f..CS hahaha go go go POLSKA hahahahaha YEAH!!!! that's what i'm talking about hahahaha aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
2009-11-15 08:35:24
golden five ;)
2009-11-15 08:35:26
where is fnatic boys now ?

:)))))))))))))))))))))))
2009-11-15 08:35:29
We Win AGAiN!!!:D GOLD 5 NEVER GIVE UP!:D
2009-11-15 08:35:40
G5 the best team in the world
2009-11-15 08:35:50
Please stop raping caps lock @ your comments, no-one @ hltv.org is blind.

GJ Again, they played well and fnatic didn't manage to handle the pressure of Again being @ match-point round @ train and stupidly lost that last round, merit to Again.
2009-11-15 08:35:57
gj poland
2009-11-15 08:36:12
blixty???



GJ polska,fail swe
2009-11-15 08:36:15
great match for Poland, another 1st spot on WCG :)

live stream - terrible... ;/
2009-11-15 08:36:16
golden five:DD srsly get a life freaks
anyway nice play by again, now they wont win for some time thats for sure

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:37:07
2009-11-15 08:36:19
we'll see about that.
2009-11-15 08:37:15
go cry somewhere else and watch AGAIN those noob-cs in your country
2009-11-15 08:38:43
pics of fnatic crying please
2009-11-15 08:36:25
--->Great Job AGAiN <----
Neo & Loord the best players of Tournament
b.t.w was f0rest playing with razer Krait or ???
2009-11-15 08:36:27
POLAND !!!!!!!!! iiiiiiihhhhhhhaaaaaaaa n1 THE BEST i LOVE YOU POLAND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;]
2009-11-15 08:36:31
FUCK U FNATIC OVER CONFIDENT BASTARDS IN YOUR FACE
2009-11-15 08:36:45
WELL DONE
2009-11-15 08:36:49
Money??? answer the questions
2009-11-15 08:36:52
$80.500
2009-11-15 08:38:02
but this if amount off all prices not only for 1st place.
2009-11-15 08:47:34
G5 – 35,000$
fnatic - 18,000$
mTw - 10,000$
2009-11-15 14:31:02
by: jMS
#163
Where's forest now? He told that they gonna win the final... igorant
2009-11-15 08:37:02
AGAiN !!!!! AGAiN !!!!! AGAiN !!!!! AGAiN !!!!!
2009-11-15 08:37:04
so lose tactic with tyloo worked
2009-11-15 08:37:05
POLNAD > ALL !
2009-11-15 08:37:06
NAJZ KURWA ! F OF ;d
2009-11-15 08:37:07
Nice nice nice)) POLKA <3. Good job.
2009-11-15 08:37:15
The best team in the world!!!!!
n1 golden five <3<3<3<3
2009-11-15 08:37:18
Nice nice nice)) POLSKA <3. Good job.
2009-11-15 08:37:23
Again n1 !!!
2009-11-15 08:37:32
Thank you loord and G5 :) It was amazing.

Immposible is nothing :D
2009-11-15 08:37:47
OMG!!I cant believe!!
I love AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets come to the DHWinter and get it one more again,boys !
2009-11-15 08:37:48
If they're gonna be invited ;p

Or they can pay for themselves, they just won $35.000 ;d
2009-11-15 08:47:31
Edit: They did, my bad ;)

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:54:20
2009-11-15 08:53:41
fnatic losers :)) polska LUCKY
2009-11-15 08:38:02
POLSKA RULES :) I LOVE U GUYS :D
2009-11-15 08:38:05

TAG NOT TO WIN ... ARE GOOD PLAYERS ... CONGRATULATIONS NEO & CIA ... Celebrate each got you!
2009-11-15 08:38:05
i assume that hltv.org was down atm becuase of pole's flooding the thread?

anyway, good job AGAiN. very nice matches

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:43:02
2009-11-15 08:38:17
probably:P

never underestimate polish "Fans" :)
2009-11-15 08:44:03
POLAND > MY LIFE & MY PARENTS OMGOGMOGMGMOMGOGMG
BEST TEAm !!!!! I WUSH NEO MY DADDY AND UMM NEOiTA MY MOMMY OMGOGMOGMGOMGOM!!!!!! GO PLAND !!!!! U OWN
2009-11-15 08:38:41
Post of the year, period.
2009-11-15 08:52:38
NIIICEEE! AGAiN good job boy's:P
2009-11-15 08:38:41
GG
2009-11-15 08:38:52
ASSAULTED BY POLAND FANBOYS, HLTV IS.

yoda style ~~

Good job though, the match was intense and I really hoped for a Poland win, don't really know why. :)
2009-11-15 08:38:57
TOTALLY, the website actually went down.
OH NOEZ POLISH INVASION, NEED BACKUP :D

Note: I don't have the intention to insult anyone, don't rape me with replies plz :)
2009-11-15 08:52:04
only fair player od fnatic is f0rest and Gux i think, f0rest is the great player but no lucky for him today :))))))))

please, give us some video and pictures of celebrating win :D

<3 POLSKA
2009-11-15 08:39:07
would be great!
2009-11-15 08:46:28
Why would cArn, GeT_RiGhT and dsn not be fair?
2009-11-15 14:32:34
I Love Polska

Love NEO FOREVER AND EVER
2009-11-15 08:39:13
wow how gay can you get :\
2009-11-15 08:50:39
LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
2009-11-15 08:58:06
you were being sarcastic, weren't you? please say yes... :)

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:59:54
2009-11-15 08:59:09
well maybe he is. Is there something wrong about that?
2009-11-15 09:02:35
If he's being sarcastic, that's absolutely fine :)
2009-11-15 09:06:47
And if he's not?
2009-11-15 09:08:10
Let's just say i defend the point of view that women have a vagina and men have a penis for an obvious reason ;)
2009-11-15 09:11:19
Ahhh so we should all be hetero cause we have dicks and pussies. Nice logic. I have some gay friends man and woman and they don't complain about their "disabilities" in their relationships.
2009-11-15 09:14:14
Ok then, if you allow me let me just make you two questions:

1. What's your religion?
2. Do you believe in God (and believe he is the creator)?
2009-11-15 09:17:38
Simple answere I'm an atheist.
2009-11-15 09:18:50
Those who believe in god is mentally retarded. How the fuck can you believe in that crap srsly?
2009-11-15 09:59:22
Just made that question to then ask them why, according to the catholic religion, God create Adam and Eve, and not Adam and John or Joseph or Eve and another girl...
2009-11-15 16:55:10
don't bother with this dude, we live in a world where no one believes in anything anymore and they seem to be proud of it. And those few who do believe are now subjects of abuse and laughter. Getting into argument with 90% modern people and trying to prove anything is useless, either life will teach them, or nothing will. Don't waste your time and good will on this...
2009-11-15 11:00:18
1. Everybody believes in something.
2. Trying to prove the existence of God is always useless.
2009-11-15 13:10:40
It's the idea of belief itself that i have a problem with. People who can't cope with reality go too beliefs. It's their problem, I'm not judging anyone and shouldn't either.
2009-11-15 15:24:52
yeah, this is nice logic. Dictated by nature AND evolution btw.
2009-11-15 11:01:30
What's the difference between nature and evolution? [/flame] :P
2009-11-15 13:11:41
Read something about it first. Many species of animals interact in homosexual realtionships. So it's a part of nature.
2009-11-15 15:18:33
but you know very well that no one can reproduce that way. And if not for "natural" relationships, we both simply wouldn't exist. Animals f**k each other sometimes, but it's not a "relationship", it's an unfulfilled instinct to reproduce. That is why you have a dick after all : to reproduce. Lol, I'm done proving obvious... Just believe me, one day you'll get very tired of minorities and their cries to give them rights. You can have nothing against homosexuals, but there are other minories. Coprofils, for example. That's a minority, they like it that way, and animals love sh*t too sometimes. Very natural. Would you allow them to do their thing in front of others ? And what kind of a person that must be, to not understand that it offends most people, and STILL show it proudly to everyone ? It's not about what you do and how you feel, it's about thinking how others will react to it if you show it off disrespectfully of their feelings. I'm a homophobe, but I'm not raging to kill all of them, or deny them their right to f**k or love each other, I'm not invading their parties with "kill a homo" banner nor do I laugh at them when I see them. I simply pass by. I want people NOT to touch others feelings. By the way, I don't like it when heteros kiss in public, too. It's not disgusting for me, of course, but I feel like it's something very personal, private, and try not to look that way because it feels like I'm delving into someone's private life. Any society must have a balance between what's allowed to minorities, and what's not. That is why USA has banned gay marriages, even though they do proclaim themselves "free state n1". You give one minority a freedom to do what they want, and a thousand other minorities will emerge crying to give them freedom, too. The only possible result is chaos.
2009-11-15 17:17:40
Wow, I think that's one of the most intolerant and stupid posts I've ever read.

I'll try to sum up that in one sentence.

"To save your freedom you have to ban all kinds of minorities from public and social life, otherwise everything ends up in chaos."

No comment.

And by the way, just because America does something, that's not necessarily the right thing on your way to freedom. :|

If the pope goes to Africa and tells people not to use condoms, that's not the word of God - that's just some crazy bullshit from one of the most unnecessary guys in the world.
2009-11-15 18:13:43
if you really think that sentence sums up what I said and call it stupid, than I pity you, for you are unable to understand what you read. I've said about finding balance, not banning minorities. Minorities have always existed and will always exist and it's impossible to ban them from anywhere.
Oh, and have fun watching coprofils indulging in their sexual activity at a public party.
2009-11-15 18:21:39
"You give one minority a freedom to do what they want, and a thousand other minorities will emerge crying to give them freedom, too. The only possible result is chaos."

That's what it called stupid, and still do.

And I don't think you can compare coprophilia to homosexuality, at least in most countries.
There's a difference between a gay couple walking on the street and maybe kissing, and two people eating each others shit in public.At home they can do what they want, you're not allowed to have sex in public as well. ;)
2009-11-15 18:55:16
ah, so you do recognise extremes, don't you ? Well, you belong to majority, and deny a minority it's right. So, some things shouldn't be allowed, after all ? But that's supressing someone's freedom ! I think there are some people, particularly "freedom-fighters", who won't agree with you. And they are fighting to allow things like this in courts and if you look around you, you'll have to admit that they are slowly winning their way. There is some common sense still left, yeah, but it's FADING. Most people who are now in goverments were still born back in 20th century, they were raised in accordance to some moral code and rules. The day will come when you'll HAVE to watch something like you described, and you won't have a right to voice your disgust, because it will offend a minority. What I say about chaos may seem harsh and intolerant, but "tolerant" world where everybody love everyone no matter what they do or like is impossible. It's either an utopia or an asylum. And we just keep getting closer and closer to the second one. You may tolerate some things, but believe me, one day something you really, really dislike will be allowed, and then you'll understand me and my concerns about "tolerance". It is a good thing when measured, but a paradox lies in that it's the most hard thing to measure.

Post edited 2009-11-15 19:27:58
2009-11-15 19:22:47
And one more thing. If we would ever reach a point where someone told you that you can't critisize other people ( if the're a minority or not )in a constructive way I would fight for your right to free speech and public expression of it too.
2009-11-15 19:40:29
it's a closed circle, don't you think ? A neverending fight for this and that and one provokes another. I chose peace for myself, although it may have been an easier way...
2009-11-15 19:50:46
I don't think it's a closed circle. The premise is simple you can say whatever you want to say or do as long as there is no one in harms way.
2009-11-15 20:13:11
USA didn't ban gays from gettin married. US Supreme Court gave the states the power to regulate that matter. And it's legal in 5 states. One of them is Utah one of the most conservative states in the republic. After state supreme court found gay marriage ban unconstitutional. Gallup did a pool after one year and 93% of people stated that repealing the ban haven't changed their lifes in any aspect...duh Only an idiot thinks that it would. Please allegories with two adult man or woman having a relationship and people eating shit are just ridiculous and idiotic. Majority doesn't have moral highground to regulate minorities bill of rights. They're citizens and they deserve every right they wish as long as they don't harm other people. And I don't mean abstract concepts like "feelings" people hurt mine every day but i don't think that they shouldn't be allowed to loudly share their views. That's what modern society is all about, different points of view. In my country church organises public demonstrations against condoms, birth control pills, gays, euthanasia and jews. I think their hateful and wrong but that's their democratic right to go out and say it. It's always good to be in the majority, if you would've had different concepts than social majority you would've know what i'm talking about.
2009-11-15 19:32:33
I know my allegories aren't quite valid, but I've hoped to show a point. You don't understand it - fine, you have your views, I have mine and I don't think anyone of us can be convinced otherwise by each other.
I DO have many concepts different to social majority, believe me ;) I am sometimes very intolerate to majority. Sometimes much more than I am to some minorities ) Anyway, the argument will come to nowhere, as it always does. I hope you will keep your idealistic views on modern society concepts in 20-30 years to follow, although I seriously doubt it. But good luck with that.
One thing, however made me O___O :
"In my country church organises public demonstrations against condoms, birth control pills, gays, euthanasia and jews"
lolwut ?! :D Well, our church organises the same demonstrations, but they kinda forgot about jews. Bah, I'm calling the Patriarch right now :( Seriously, haven't even heard about it :)


Post edited 2009-11-15 19:55:13
2009-11-15 19:48:28
AGree . We'll probably stay with our concepts but that's fine by me. I'm not critisizing people for having different views. WHat i'm talking about is people telling other people how they aught to live their lifes. And zoophilia or necrophilia are nowhere near homosexualism. But if someone want's to blow his cat think how good the cat must feel.
2009-11-15 20:10:30
it's nice when people understand and respect their differences and understand that some uncommon things are more bizarre then others. Let's just hope it'll stay that way everywhere...
2009-11-15 20:24:50
I'll drink to that.
2009-11-15 20:38:04
No, Nothing sarcastic When anyone loves NEO

I don't say I love Filip Kubski, Its just that I love NEO's character in game

So nothing to bother about

And I feel sorry for your community, as, I won't be able to be the new addition to it [:-)}
2009-11-15 09:03:07
"My community".
At least in "my community" everyone can choose the woman they wan't to marry, OHHH SNAP :\
2009-11-15 09:07:22
Woman !

I am shocked, I thought you wanted me to Join your Gay community, which is why you cared so much about me being a prospective gay, coz nobody else bothered if I love NEO
2009-11-15 09:13:43
OHHHH SNAP!!!11!!!1111!!1!!11!!!!
2009-11-15 09:15:29
Cause we're not homophobic. And it's a nice stretch to say things like that. It shows how much you appreciate this player. Don't mind this guy.
2009-11-15 09:15:45
+1
TY

No I really Love the way NEO plays

I have never seen a mortal play like that
2009-11-15 09:17:30
YESH NEO IZ IMORTALZ, HE HAZ ZEH POWER OF NOT DYING
2009-11-15 09:19:04
I'm proud to be homophobic.
2009-11-15 09:19:36
I don't know whats so great about being homophobic. But if you like it's your private matter. I don't have anything against it.

Post edited 2009-11-15 09:22:59
2009-11-15 09:21:07
+1
2009-11-15 09:23:26
Well i'm not that 'homophobic', they can do whatever they wan't, were in the fucking 21st century, but i just don't wan't too see 2 guys kissing each other in public, it disgusts me and i sure don't wan't any children of mine in the future presencing that.
2009-11-15 09:23:33
It's you problem. As far as I know Australia is a free country so you can't take away peoples liberties to kiss in public cause it doesn't fit you dogmatism. That's why we have multicultural societys. Minoryties have rights too.
2009-11-15 09:26:57
You're completely right about that, but i can assure you alot of people would agree with the same point of view of mine.

And btw i'm not living in Australia atm, i'm in Portugal, and i'm off to bed cuz it's 8:30 in the morning and i haven't slept yet ;)

Post edited 2009-11-15 09:30:38
2009-11-15 09:29:25
I know a lot of people share your point of view. We have plenty of them in my country. It doesn't always mean they're right.
2009-11-15 09:33:46
Hm, so if enough people share the point of view, that mentally/physically retarded people are kinda disgusting, we should kill em all?

Quite stupid, huh?

I have another question to your post #365.
Do you think someone who believes in God is supposed to dislike gay people?
2009-11-15 13:07:53
Well for people who believe in God i ask another question: Why did he in the beginning 'make' only Adam and Eve?
2009-11-15 16:52:53
That is such a different thing.
Mentally retarded people don't choose to be like that, homossexuals do, in a certain way.
2009-11-15 16:58:10
I don't really think anyone chose to be homosexual. o.O
You think you're just walking around the park and suddenly think 'hmm, well, having sex with some guy sounds quite good, actually, I think I'll become gay now!' ?

About that God-thing.
First thing is, in my opinion the world has not been created within seven days, then one guy and one lady appeared and created the human race, that's just ridiculous. :D
But thats not the point.
You are right, it's obviously not very usefull for the development of the humans if people are gay - no one doubts that, I guess.
But becoming a monk without any children is not, either.

But everybody should have the right to choose their ways of life, as long as they are not hurting other people - and gays don't do that. ;)
Maybe you find it disgusting seeing a couple of two ladies kissing (I really doubt that :D), but thats not their problem, just look away.
2009-11-15 18:01:45
+100 friend. I really have nothing more to add.
2009-11-15 10:10:23
Because you are not meant to be sexually attracted to your own sex, and I find it rather obnoxious.
2009-11-15 14:34:22
Human psyche is far more complicated than that. You find it repulsive some people find it stimulating. I'm heterosexual but i have nothing against homosexuals, it's their right to intercourse with whom they wish.
2009-11-15 15:21:03
I partly agree, I'm not saying homosexuality should be forbidden, and I'm not saying they have no right to be homosexual, but I personally find it obnoxious and I don't think I could have a homosexual friend, and I'd definitely be extremely frustrated with my kid for example if he/she became gay.
2009-11-15 15:23:08
Well I have gay friends and the're common people, they know that I'm not into this kind of thing and we're just people who hang out, having some beer or coffee. I hope your kid won't a homosexual cause it's going to be really devastating when you as his parent won't be able to accept him as he is.
2009-11-15 15:28:24
No, I agree there, I don't hope he'll become one either. :D Yes, I understand they are normal people, but for me it would feel strange, I would just have that feeling in my head that he might be attracted to me and so on... But I don't know, since I haven't experienced it yet I don't know how I would act in such a situation, I'm just guessing.
2009-11-15 15:30:51
I waited for this moment, G5 win moment whole night. I believed in you guys and you won! Greate game both by teams.

P.S. Gux why you are shaking? Addicted to drugs or something like that...
2009-11-15 08:39:13
Congratulations!

POLAND, Zary.
2009-11-15 08:39:23
GG Polska...nuke was the best map iv seen..3 awps in CT side train was awesome..go NEO!!!<3..
Man of the moment loord...


* POLSKA LoordB killed fnatic.MSI f0restwOw~ with a headshot from ak47 ***
POLSKA LoordB killed fnatic.MSI Gux^pingu with ak47
POLSKA LoordB killed fnatic.MSI dsntw with ak47
2009-11-15 08:39:25
+1
2009-11-15 08:53:48
I hope they can have an Organization :)
2009-11-15 08:39:31
GG Polska <3 <3
2009-11-15 08:39:57
Nice match,nice Again,nice boys all.Congratulations
2009-11-15 08:40:08
gg AGAiN GOOD MEN =D
2009-11-15 08:40:16
fnatic fnatic.........
2009-11-15 08:40:27
Where is swedish fanboys? 16:0 16:0 4 fnatic hahahaha xD
2009-11-15 08:40:33
POLSKA nice game...
2009-11-15 08:44:39
Jedno &#380;ycie , jeden cel jebac FNATIC.
2009-11-15 08:40:35
viebali swedov aahha !POLAND <33333
2009-11-15 08:40:48
After the match Loord probably sad:

"There is no defiance, give me NEXT"

xD hahahaha
2009-11-15 08:41:14
gg Again n1 Looord!!!
2009-11-15 08:41:18
This is famous Golden Five.
Now you can correct your calculations
fnatic> Again X
fnatic__Again
fnatic< Again V =)
2009-11-15 08:41:21
wow that's a perfect observation my Dear Watson.
2009-11-15 08:49:42
i think they all played awesome, both fnatic and again. i can't think of a man of the match, because they all played ultra super fantastic. Nice show guys, congrats again.
2009-11-15 08:41:30
NIIIIIIIIIIIICEEEEEEEEEE!
GJ GUYZ.
fnatic is over
2009-11-15 08:41:46
Ok, now DreamHack will invite them, right?;)

@Everyone
Drop that 'where are swedish fanboys', just be happy and don't insult them. They lost already (:
2009-11-15 08:41:54
+1
2009-11-15 08:46:29
Polska best 4ever!!!
2009-11-15 08:42:05
Man of the match TRAIN : f0rest 'n taz ...
2009-11-15 08:42:08
f0rest played good last 5 rounds
2009-11-15 08:43:52
<3 LoordB
2009-11-15 08:42:30
guys with what mouse was f0rest playin beacuse when i saw in Stream I dont think he was playin with Krait ??
2009-11-15 08:42:47
He uses SteelSeries Kinzu
2009-11-15 08:43:45
nuke=best match ever



again only team who win 2 eswc and 2 wcg no?
2009-11-15 08:42:48
i'd like to see them more often on chinese events. they seemed to really impress the crowd and bring them to make some noise and cheer.
2009-11-15 08:43:02
amazing : )

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!
2009-11-15 08:43:08
holy shit @ de_nuke :D
2009-11-15 08:43:32
Gj
2009-11-15 08:43:37
AGAiN 4EVER AN EVER WIN GUYS WIN !! HAVE FUN !!
2009-11-15 08:43:51
Again another polish fanboy rapes CAPS LOCK :D
2009-11-15 08:48:22
Polska Huiolska

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:44:57
2009-11-15 08:44:05
twoj stary
2009-11-15 08:52:03
GTFO you moron, stop being a fucking disgrace to your country and stop replying here

Post edited 2009-11-15 14:28:48
2009-11-15 14:28:08
Again the WCG champions! CONGRATS!!!
2009-11-15 08:44:26
ye, nuke was amazing, gj
2009-11-15 08:44:40
It's strange I don't see Sweden Flags, hahaha.
2009-11-15 08:44:57
fnatic just the 2nd :)
2009-11-15 08:44:57
LOORD IS THE BEST !!! POLAND IS KING !!!
2009-11-15 08:45:30
And you just raped CAPS LOCK :)
2009-11-15 08:47:22
oh gos, are you fcking idiot or what? we do already know that u hade gays, but what the fuck is wrong with you to hate someone just because he's from another country? generaly everywhere where you post a cooment its a sarcastic answer to sb from poland. go get some life.
2009-11-15 21:34:20
rape rape rape !
2009-11-16 02:53:13
GOOD JOB POLAND!!!!!!!!!
2009-11-15 08:46:30
Polska gooooood loord and neo 4ever !!!! nice nice...loord nice best player :)
2009-11-15 08:47:07
Grattis POLSKARNA
2009-11-15 08:47:09
Sad Gaming Fnatic...Polska has taken the gaming world by storm...lets see hw long will it last...
2009-11-15 08:47:10
Hahahaha,polish fanboys goes mad
2009-11-15 08:47:15
-1 idiot, why cant they go mad? ppl like you are annoying
2009-11-15 08:50:16
It's called hater without team from own country :-(
2009-11-15 08:52:06
me too

Love Polska

Love neo forever
2009-11-15 08:57:14
gimme my SS mouse :P:P GJ AGAiN, gg fic
i hope now they will finally find some normal organisation :(
damn i forgot to bet on this match :/

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:48:24
2009-11-15 08:47:42
wasn't the score on nuke 15-11 in favour of fnatic and then again won 4 round and equalize the game?
2009-11-15 08:47:44
I think you are correct
2009-11-15 08:49:31
thats right ;)
2009-11-15 08:49:44
AGAIN!
2009-11-15 08:48:25
Well deserved, grats
2009-11-15 08:48:39
Its all in the Momentum !!!
I guess fnatic (with great players) was shaken by the first map :(
Whereas AGAiN had the rage in them, to show all the organizations, what they are and what they can be!
Anyway a great final witnessed by a great tournament.
Good Game by both teams!
<3 f0rest <3 Neo :)
<3 fnatic <3 AGAiN :)
2009-11-15 08:48:40
by: CLo
#261
Gg both team :)

great match ever.
2009-11-15 08:48:46
they won 28-26 not 31-29 ?
2009-11-15 08:48:48
NEO >>>>>>> ALL

congrats again :D !!

the dream team returnS!!
2009-11-15 08:49:12
Video please
2009-11-15 08:49:13
oh, now I get a clue why did they choose to name themselfs "again". Well, they're world champions. Again ))))

NICE KURWA !!!
2009-11-15 08:49:22
haha bashed fnatic on train like to dismantle an IKEA-desk :D hahaha
2009-11-15 08:49:40
31-29 it was..
2009-11-15 08:50:54
gg ;)
2009-11-15 08:51:11
yes&#65292;4 map points
2009-11-15 08:51:27
GG both teams. HL fnatic.
2009-11-15 08:52:53
16;0
16;0

Yeahh kids oO
2009-11-15 08:53:03
fnatic lol.. but HL
2009-11-15 08:54:46
Magnificent, jsut brill, they are on teh top again :D Now join some kickass organisation, get yourself some freakin nice tshirts so I can buy them and get into partnership with microsoft and sennheiser so you can still play with pc350 and ie 3.0 :)

GJ POLSKA< I LOVE YOU GUYS :D
2009-11-15 08:54:55
gg kurwa ;DD
2009-11-15 08:55:01
Fnatic played rly bad, they were obviously playing rly bad and not concentrated or else they would of won the game easily, no-chance 2-0, 16-0 16-0.
Huge lack of concentration and a very bad game by fnatic.

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:56:53
2009-11-15 08:55:45
They were too confident I think.

Post edited 2009-11-15 08:59:34
2009-11-15 08:59:20
You seriously didn't get it that i wrote that purely with the intention of provoking the fanbois? :D
It's pure bullshit lol, Again deserved the win.
2009-11-15 09:01:21
I know what you meant, I'm just saying, or rather adding my own words into yours, that fnatic were too confident, thats it :)
2009-11-15 09:03:31
Yeh they actually seemed a lil too confident @ train after winning 8 rounds @ T side, which is good (isn't train a ct map)? They then must of been a lil confident and lost all those rounds, and that last round seemed to be in control for fnatic but they lost it.
2009-11-15 09:05:33
but maybe fnatic played as always.. but AGAiN prove they are strong.. why u assume only one scenario?
2009-11-15 09:01:10
Read #307 pls ;)
2009-11-15 09:03:09
get a life ;d
2009-11-15 09:01:30
Read #307 pls ;)
2009-11-15 09:03:21
I think that Poles weren't concentrated too but they kicked fnatic's asses off.
2009-11-15 09:01:58
Read #307 pls ;)
2009-11-15 09:03:27
by: jMS
#319
Looks like you haven't seen the match. They were just fucking amazing on nuke and litte worse on train. G5 were just a little bit better so they could won it. Just look at the overtimes where G5 was able to win tt side with 3-0 score and fnatic could tie the game.
2009-11-15 09:03:33
Read #307 pls ;)
2009-11-15 09:04:28
OK, so i can use my freedom of speech, and i don't want you to reply me: don't take it as an offence, but trying to reply to every polish FAN (note, not FANBOY) who is only happy cuz of AGAiN winning the tournament, is pointless, and VERY childlish. You'd say why? You ain't gon' change the world, and let polish fans just to celebrate this huge for us victory. It's my fuckin' right to post comment in caps lock if i fuckin' want to do so :). No offence m8, srsly ;D
2009-11-15 09:48:03
writing in forum you obviesly agree to everybody answer to your post
2009-11-15 11:48:42
Yes, but this time, i don't want to argue :)
2009-11-15 12:57:12
Then don't make such a reply?
2009-11-15 14:40:51
My constitutional right is to write what i want as long as it doesn't insult anyone :). And again, i see raging cuz i wrote something that some1 does not like. Chill out a bit, respect somebodies opinion :]
2009-11-15 14:52:47
I'm not saying you are not allowed to reply, it's just stupid making such a reply and then saying "DON'T REPLY TO ME, I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE THE ARGUMENT I STARTED".
2009-11-15 15:24:17
I don't want to read only flame, which is obvious after such a post, and my post was not arguable, just educational :)
2009-11-15 15:39:48
Well, if you would've said that you didn't want to be flamed, OK, noone does, but that wasn't what you said. ;) But I understand you now!
2009-11-15 16:26:55
I'm happy i cleared it out for you :))
2009-11-15 16:31:57
Be. :)
2009-11-15 21:39:55
THE BEST TEAM WORLD AGAIN!
NEO THE BEST PLAYER
2009-11-15 08:56:04
+1
2009-11-15 08:59:39
+1 ^^
2009-11-15 09:14:24
ridiculous. they won a tournament in 1 year. fnatic is the best team in the world and will be pointed as the best team of the year.
2009-11-15 13:49:51
No more happiness for Fnatic, luck has crossed the Polish side to see on their faces:)
2009-11-15 08:57:48
Again are more good guys, fnatic boys are aslo good ppl but become kind of arrogant, and thats why Again forshure deserverd to win
2009-11-15 08:58:18
+1
2009-11-15 09:13:36
Nice!
2009-11-15 08:58:35
Will you upload Video from 'Game Area' or how it's called ( I mean 2nd map) ? :-)
2009-11-15 08:59:20
THANKS YOU BROTHERS !!!!!!! GG !!!!
2009-11-15 08:59:28
AGAiN strikes when you least expect it!
They had a lot of luck through the way to the final 2-1,2-1,2-1, very close matches and dont forget on nuke where fnatic had like 15-11.
Anyway on train they just crused fnatic.
GG guys and gl finding an GOOD organization!
2009-11-15 09:00:52
pics.data.bg/categories/1/&/f9cada216116798283da706bfb863e83/de_train0000dd




GG AGAINEO :D

Post edited 2009-11-15 09:02:27
2009-11-15 09:01:06
can't wait to get the demo on nuke, i think it was the best map on a wcg final.. nobody thought that the polish guys will make it, but i had hope on them..

reporter: "new things have come up, but i ask you the same question: Are you the best cs player in the world? "
NEO: "YES I am"

YES YOU ARE
2009-11-15 09:01:43
actually, it was "at the moment I am" :)
2009-11-15 09:05:16
and atm he is :D
2009-11-15 09:07:40
ofc he is :)
2009-11-15 09:10:05
OFC He Is The best CS player on earth ever
2009-11-15 09:40:53
hope for a new movie after this WCG we deserv a new movie maybe with all the squad, this is a epic moment, nobody thought they can do it. Where are fnatic fanboys?? upsset?? fnatic will never be WCG camps because they are to arrogant.
2009-11-15 09:11:52
data.bg really sucks ..:D

btw gg loord and neo
2009-11-15 09:02:49
Congratulations, The Great Five! You AGAIN gave a big hope for people out there, proving that even without sponsors and organization it is possible to become a world champion. Thank you very much for the game. Cheers!
2009-11-15 09:03:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OD1DAdF2Wk
2009-11-15 09:03:33
yeah.. I love that movie : )
2009-11-15 09:05:13
by: iGn
#321
Nice :)
2009-11-15 09:03:53
he is ;] im agree :P AGAIN FTW !
2009-11-15 09:04:05
Best match ever...This is again time again xD
2009-11-15 09:05:10
NEO - the best cs player in history
2009-11-15 09:06:02
+1
2009-11-15 09:42:05
oh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQy4kQMPYEE
look 5:25
2009-11-15 09:07:44
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQy4kQMPYEE

That is two huge kills..

Just don't forget that you can edit your message up to 10 minutes after it has been posted, instead of posting 5 times.

Post edited 2009-11-15 14:48:49
2009-11-15 14:46:19
Also, noticed some curious thing: dl.dropbox.com/u/2061287/de_train0000.jpg
Is that admin showing disrespect towards the polish team or something?
2009-11-15 09:08:01
I have seen it. I have also seen when the admin was saying "Im telling you, polska 1 minute" while 2 pc's of again crashed... no comment.
2009-11-15 09:10:58
Yeah, have seen it too. What the hell? Feeling some racism right there.
2009-11-15 09:13:26
by: jMS
#404
Yeah... we made them so much opportunities to sell their shitty chinese funny products like electronics, food etc in our country and their so bad behaveing towards us :(
2009-11-15 09:38:10
That is the other story. Let's not start racism-shit like this here, ok?
2009-11-15 10:35:37
by: jMS
#483
YES SIR!
2009-11-15 10:44:27
So glad fnatic did not win this event, they were starting to form a monopoly on the CS scene which is not good for any sport. Hopefully now AGAIN gets picked up by an organization that deserves a team of their calibur not one that is going to fold in a month. I would love to see them back with PGS. Those Polishfive have so much heart, glad they won they deserve it.

Post edited 2009-11-15 09:10:44
2009-11-15 09:08:07
GG!

plx demos
2009-11-15 09:09:03
He is a living legend of cs, Manz good plazers were considered the best, but thez wer coming and going (Spawn, heaton, potti etc.) But neo is top3 since the very beggining of cs, there is this fragmovie "Neo: the chosen one" consisting only of his frags on cs 1.5 :) Even back then he was a sickly skilled player, now he has noone even close to him in experience.
2009-11-15 09:09:54
No one close to him in Experience

No one close to him in Skill

No one close to him in HANDLING PRESSURE

NEO IS THE BEST PLAYER WHO HAS EVER PLAYED COUNTER STRIKE. He has always remained the best ever....

Post edited 2009-11-15 09:46:50
2009-11-15 09:45:32
AGAiN!
Congratulations to Neo TaZ Luq Kuben and LooooOOoooOOOoord!!!
2009-11-15 09:10:48
"golden five" 2009 : WCG

Fnatic 2009 : e-Stars 2009
Global Challenge Dubai
KODE5 2009
ESWC 2009 - Cheonan
Extreme Masters Global Finals

Now we can say that the Polish team is the best in the world for sure.... or not
2009-11-15 09:11:33
by: jMS
#361
WCG x2 - 2006 and 2009
Fnatic won no WCG
ESWC x2 - 2007 and 2008
Fnatic won no ESWC
2009-11-15 09:16:35
+1 :X

Neo is the best! :X
2009-11-15 09:24:23
+1
2009-11-15 09:44:39
+1
2009-11-15 09:51:17
and? ffs dont be stupid. your quoting wins that happened 3 years ago. that doesnt mean anything atm. fnatic IS the best team in the world. dont even bother arguing, simple fact.
2009-11-15 13:53:10
What they did 2 or 3 years ago has nothing at all to do with who is the best RIGHT NOW.
2009-11-15 14:50:00
Fnatic won ESWC 2009 dumbass
2009-11-15 15:32:20
say to fnatic try win after lose 3 organization
2009-11-15 09:16:59
We just showed our class, when it mattered most :)
2009-11-15 09:22:01
yeyeyeye
polish fete
very, very, very, very nice.
the show, without organization - are the best
2009-11-15 09:11:47
not the best but top3 :))
2009-11-15 09:13:25
No one close to him in Experience

No one close to him in Skill

No one close to him in HANDLING PRESSURE

NEO IS THE BEST PLAYER WHO HAS EVER PLAYED COUNTER STRIKE. He has always remained the best ever....
2009-11-15 09:52:24
"...until AGAiN rediscovered themselves and set the score at 15-13. With two map points at hand, the Polish giants could not apply the finishing touch, allowing the Swedes to level the game on 15 rounds."

no? :-) fnatic set 15:13 and again was able to level the game :-)
2009-11-15 09:14:26
GOOD GAME
2009-11-15 09:14:49
AGAiN back on victories!!! i am so happy right now! i cant believe this! :DDDDDDD <3 NEO
he is the one and only!
2009-11-15 09:15:45
it was 15-11 MAN!!! and again won 4 straight rounds
2009-11-15 09:16:15
gg polska :)
2009-11-15 09:16:58
Oh fuck me I over slept the finals! Ima bout to cry :D

Awesome tournament. Very happy to see the polskas win. It's their day. This even raises the performance of PG a bit, they surely lost to a huge team and didn't make it easy for them.

And once again great coverage by hltv.org. This site has grown to be a kickass provider.

How much money for the 1st place?
2009-11-15 09:18:20
35k$ ? I think
2009-11-15 09:22:54
POLSKA THE BEST!!!
2009-11-15 09:18:28
http://pics.data.bg/categories/1/%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B8/f9cada216116798283da706bfb863e83/de_train0000dd :D
2009-11-15 09:19:17
ahaah, nice
2009-11-15 09:25:09
Haha +1
2009-11-15 10:41:39
GJ Fnatic ;)
2009-11-15 09:20:16
GJ AGAIN !!!! :D
2009-11-15 09:22:32
poland is weak, we beat them 1-0 last night..:D not at cs..of course. GG all

Post edited 2009-11-15 09:23:24
2009-11-15 09:23:07
yeah our football internationals suck big time.
2009-11-15 09:38:38
hope for smuda :)
2009-11-15 09:41:33
haha, you're absolutely right. polish football is in deep, deep crisis.
2009-11-15 09:52:47
VIDEO?!?!?!
2009-11-15 09:24:42
Golden five the best in the world !!!!!!!!!!!!
2009-11-15 09:25:27
nice work again din expected fnatic to get this but cs is unpredictable few gud rounds and u are in with a chance
2009-11-15 09:26:23
upload demos plox
2009-11-15 09:26:25
Put your lighters up!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sogKUx_q7ig

Post edited 2009-11-15 09:30:07
2009-11-15 09:26:54
HAHA freddie was a very ugly gay...
2009-11-15 09:31:15
He was the only g*y nobody hated.

Post edited 2009-11-15 09:42:03
2009-11-15 09:41:47
:D
2009-11-15 09:35:14
I like his suit..
2009-11-15 14:52:15
It's kinda strange, I've seen just 2 swedes guys posting here. Where's the rest?
Anyway I had a hope that AGAiN is going to stop fnatic's winning strike. U did it guys gg<3
2009-11-15 09:30:37
Maybe sleeping because they did something fun last night instead of being awake until/waking up at 05:00?:)
2009-11-15 14:53:03
KURWA YES
2009-11-15 09:30:44
We are the chempions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2009-11-15 09:31:33
SK would have won. lollolol
2009-11-15 09:37:18
true
2009-11-15 12:17:52
Loord
TaZ
LUq
NEO
kuben
(L
2009-11-15 09:37:39
i feel very proud of fnatic because they played extremely well this tournement, but I guess AGAiN deserved it they have been turned down many times by organisations and now they showed what they are capable of doing it.

Well done both teams
2009-11-15 09:37:41
seems like the clash of the titans to me... and i missed this game, pity... anyway it's nice to see the "zlatá p&#283;tka" (i'm not gonna mock polish, but i think czech will do the trick as well:)) becoming gold once more:)
2009-11-15 09:37:56
History likes to repeat
2009-11-15 09:40:35
when will demo be able to download?
2009-11-15 09:41:29
YYYEEAAAHHHHHH I LOVE U BOYS FORZA AGAIN GOGOGOGOG GOLDEN FIVE !! NEO ur one of a kind BRO ! KEEP GOIN' SHIT IM SO FUCKIN HAPPPY NOW :D
2009-11-15 09:42:25
GJ AGAiN !
2009-11-15 09:42:34
GJ guys)
2009-11-15 09:43:13
mwahahaha hey fanboyz from Sweden where are you?? now we can see that who really is fanboy :O
2009-11-15 09:43:42
i dont know why i reply too you..but what the fuck do you want? want to tell everyone how much better Poland is now when your team has beated fnatic ONE time this year?? yes you are the best country in the history!thats whats you want to hear right? gl hf!!POLSKA! POLSKA!
2009-11-15 09:56:34
chillout boyyyy : *

PS: burka nie potrzebnie prowokujesz.. Naprawde, jak nie masz nic madrego do napisania to nie pisz nic.
2009-11-15 10:00:46
no mate, you haven't understood me , i want to show you, YOU swedes who is the fanatic fanboy of team from own country, just look at the topic mYm vs AGAiN who of us, poles or swedes talks about reasons of failure :O
2009-11-15 10:03:45
i dont understand what you are saying
2009-11-15 11:02:27
It's not just one match, it's the final of WORLD CYBER GAMES ! ;) that means #1

Post edited 2009-11-15 12:34:56
2009-11-15 12:34:18
well thats where i dont agree :)..sure it is really big :)...but fnatic have won tournamnets this year where it have been alot harder competition if you look at the teams attending.
2009-11-15 12:38:07
For me WCG is one of the best events in the year, there were qualifications all over the world, sure there were some teams which didn't make threat to fnatic/pgs... but there was also good teams running for the 1st place.
2009-11-15 12:50:16
Yes it was really good team here :) i agree...i just think that it have been some events this year that have had even more good teams.

Post edited 2009-11-15 12:53:23
2009-11-15 12:52:27
It for sure does not.
2009-11-15 14:54:04
Thats sad :(...i knew AGAiN could win over fnatic..but the chance of that wasnt so big in my opinion....no we are going to hear that the "golden 5" won a big event until 2030. In my opinion this was just a onetimer:)...maybe not...lets see how they do at DH-winter and Arbelet.
2009-11-15 09:48:05
Have they been invited to DHW............

I don't think so
2009-11-15 09:55:42
still they can go to byoc tournament
2009-11-15 12:01:51
by: JXL
#421
GJ AGAiN POLSKA!!!!
2009-11-15 09:48:32
NICE . . . u guys have dont exceptionally well. n NeO fan boys. ofcourse neo did well,m but other guys were rocking too. i hoep u saw luqi mag n the other guy cluctch in the last round @ TRAIN

Post edited 2009-11-15 09:53:54
2009-11-15 09:50:29
omg I can't believe this :)
2009-11-15 09:52:35
me too
2009-11-15 09:53:33
wrong post

Post edited 2009-11-15 09:55:46
2009-11-15 09:55:21
I'm not a coward, I said 4some people with arrogance that fnatic will win.
Well... i never thought that AGAiN could play so well against (at the moment) the best team in the world.
GG AGAiN you deserve it!
2009-11-15 09:55:54
Congratulations AGAIN !!!
2009-11-15 09:57:02
WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AGAIN legent :)
2009-11-15 09:59:17
Corect me if I'm wrong, but this doesn't make them the greatest team/players in CS history, even bigger then SK from 2003 ? I mean : 2 x ESWC champions, 2 x WCG champions. That says it all. What other team has this accomplishments ? Congratulations guys. YOU ARE THE BEST !

Post edited 2009-11-15 10:04:18
2009-11-15 10:03:22
Yes,they are :-)
2009-11-15 10:31:23
plzz.. SK 2003 have won alot more then this team haha...4 events is nothing....and why would you call this team the best just because they win 1 event this year? just because you think WCG is so special? well sure it is kind of special and it is good prizemoney but it have been more events this year who have had BETTER teams in it. And plz dont flame me...AGAiN is a great team but its just funny how people can say that they are the best ever or even the best this year just cause they win 1 big event :).
2009-11-15 11:09:03
he meant to look at history of this team, not only at 2009 year
this team got the same lineup from the begining and they can be the same powerfull team like 3 years ago, this should mean something, dont you agree?
2009-11-15 12:04:43
yes its impressive that they have kept together for so long
2009-11-15 12:11:20
I meant that no other team won 2 times WCG and ESWC. Name another one please and then we will continue discussing. If you take all posibile CS teams from the begining of CS events NO OTHER TEAM has accomplished what this team/players did. I wasn't talking about one year.
2009-11-15 14:49:11
Nope, that's right, no other team has won WCG twice and ESWC twice. But some team might've won Extreme Masters twice, and KODE5 twice? How do we know what to rank highest? Speculations like these are just ridiculous.. :P
2009-11-15 14:55:35
in various tournaments of years 2005-2009

AGAiN (CS TEAM, WITH SAME LINEUP!) = 34 GOLD medals (1st place), 7 SILVER medals (2nd place), 3 BRONZE MEDALS (3rd place)

SK Gaming (ORGANIZATION, WITH VARIOUS LINEUPS) = 18 GOLD medals (1st place), 18 SILVER medals (2nd place), 6 BRONZE medals (3rd place)

:o
2009-11-15 18:19:33
sorry but that is wrong information you got there haha :)
2009-11-15 18:37:54
SK only counts major events and not qualifiers and small events.
2009-11-15 18:56:54
ROFL.

"IOL Season 2 Warm-Up Qualifier #1"
"WCG 2008 Sweden Finals"
"Core2 Extreme Masters Kickoff"
"WCG Swedish Qualifier"
"ESWC Swedish Qualifier"

You call that major and not qualifiers?

That's 5 out of 18 gold medals.

Post edited 2009-11-15 20:37:05
2009-11-15 20:35:27
Yes i saw that now :)
2009-11-15 20:53:56
ok, so i counted again:

SK Gaming:

11x 1st place (DreamHack 2009 Göteborg, IEF 2009, EM 4 GC Chengdu, DreamHack Winter 2008, ESWC 2008 GF, EM III GC LA, ESWC 2007 GF, KODE5 Holland, KODE5 Italy, CPL Winter & Summer 2005)
12x 2nd place (Dreamhack Summer 2009, ESWC Masters Cheonan, KODE5 GF 2009, ESWC Masters Paris, EM III GC Montreal, WCG 2008, EM L.A. 2007, NGL One Finals 2007, WSVG Louisville 2007, ESWC 2005)
3x 3rd place (EM 4 GC Dubai, KODE5 GF, ESL Pro Series VII)

AGAiN:

11x 1st place (WCG 2009, DTS Cup 2009, ESCWC 2008, Dreamhack 2008, WSVG London 2007, ESWC 2007 GF, Intel EM 2007, Samsung European Championship 2007, WCG 2006 GF, WSVG UK 2006, Invex Euro Cyber Cup)
6x 2nd place (GameGune SuperCup 2009, Intel EM GF 2009, Samsung Euro Championship 2006/07/08, KODE5 2006)
3x 3rd place (CPL Dallas, Kode5 Global Finals (Russia), Intel EM Continental Finals (Germany)

Post edited 2009-11-15 20:53:21
2009-11-15 20:49:00
ps. i not counted "local events"..
2009-11-15 21:04:04
great job. where is demo ??
2009-11-15 10:03:22
plx upload demo:) i slept for match:( i wake up about 9:00 :P
2009-11-15 10:05:15
now this is GOLDEN FIVE!!!
2009-11-15 10:05:24
gj POLSKA :D gg sweden
2009-11-15 10:06:11
Loord faithless ...
2009-11-15 10:06:33
I feel bad for fnatic...
best team in the world and still no WCG title...
2009-11-15 10:07:52
how can they be best team if they loose important and big tournaments =)
2009-11-15 10:12:40
Well :) they have won maybe 5 big events this year.....even if you dont think thoose was "important" they was...it was good prizemoney on them to and in many of them it was alot better TEAMS then in this WCG.
2009-11-15 11:11:27
They lost ONE big tournament, and people say they can't win. I just love this site..
2009-11-15 14:58:05
Yes,It's so funny.Fnatic can win every match except WCG.It must be a curse with fnatic!Carn said he have gained every NO.1 except WCG,He wanted he can take the NO.1 in the WCG2009.But the curse still is not breaked by him.It will become his regret if he can't take the first in WCG in his professional career.^^
2009-11-17 03:19:29
True. XD They would've won in any other tournament. ;)
2009-11-17 17:34:53
LOL guys. Are you realy think POLSKA is 1st in the world? I don't think so. In IEM finals fnatic will take polska dupas.
2009-11-15 10:09:59
they win WCG = THEY ARE THE BEST, REMEMBER THAT
2009-11-15 10:10:50
lol
2009-11-15 13:02:36
"GOOD JOB POLAND"


:D
2009-11-15 10:10:20
POLAND (AGAiN) - THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD
2009-11-15 10:10:49
when will be the available demo from this match?
2009-11-15 10:11:21
Wow that's a shocker. I didn't get up to watch because I was so confident fnatic would win. I guess AGAiN really stepped up their game or fnatic played mediocre.
2009-11-15 10:11:39
Big suprise for me. I thought fnatic will win ...
But nice job Poland
2009-11-15 10:13:52
well done neo, you made some polish kids happy with their sexual desire
2009-11-15 10:14:09
G5 always come out of nowhere to win a big tournament,like last year's ESWC
they were sort of having a slump too at that time and still won
2009-11-15 10:15:23
Good Job :) AGAiN > all !!!!!!!!!!!!!
2009-11-15 10:16:24
by: sqb
#461
AGaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiN <3 NEO
2009-11-15 10:18:06
Demo please :P
2009-11-15 10:18:49
GRATZ neo&co i didn't expect u to win:D i'm very surprised:D!GG hope an orga will pick u up soon !GJJJ!
2009-11-15 10:19:26
FUcking awesome! Great to see them back in the game, winning.
2009-11-15 10:20:01
taz amazing
2009-11-15 10:21:49
again the kings :D
2009-11-15 10:22:45
WCG > DH
2009-11-15 10:23:22
wohooo great job :)
2009-11-15 10:25:50
Good Game :) I believe from the beginning. Back to the top. Now, they don't need any organisation :D earnings from tournaments like that would be enough to earn a good, decent living :D

Congratz!!!
2009-11-15 10:26:23
will there be demos?
i missed it cos i thought fnatic will crush G5 :(
2009-11-15 10:28:46
demo pls (:
2009-11-15 10:28:54
I hope Carn will continue for another year.
2009-11-15 10:30:47
+1 :( carn would have deserved the title before going inactive

Post edited 2009-11-15 10:47:22
2009-11-15 10:46:33
gj !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2009-11-15 10:34:24
AGAIN! AGAIN! AGAIN! GOLD FIVE! neo,luq,taz,loord,kuben!
2009-11-15 10:34:35
NICE DUDEKS..keep going your perfect job
GL :)
2009-11-15 10:36:30
HOW DID THEY DO THAT?!
2009-11-15 10:38:49
by: bkx
#484
Well played, GG!
2009-11-15 10:44:54
good game , congratz
2009-11-15 10:46:39
i hope they will find an organization now
2009-11-15 10:52:18
gz ;]
:*
2009-11-15 10:52:18
GJ GZ
2009-11-15 10:53:25
gratz to poland :)
2009-11-15 10:55:33
Gratz guys. You deserved it in this whole situation. Im proud of my country;)
2009-11-15 10:58:16
where is demo ?
2009-11-15 10:59:41
jeeeeeeeeee AGAiN Win!!
2009-11-15 11:02:28
demo ?
2009-11-15 11:06:18
Congratulations AGAIN !!

congrats to fnatic too for getting Second.!
2009-11-15 11:10:09
AGAINNNNNNNNNNNNN !!!!!!
2009-11-15 11:11:00
DEMO from de_train here: cybersport.pl/newsy/pelny/Niesamowity_final_WCG_2009/0/0/0/4
just click on DEMO where the score of map de_train is.
2009-11-15 11:13:32
thanks buddy
2009-11-15 12:00:35
yw!
So already we got it, demo from train (already seen, great playing by AGAiN players, Luq owned in some rounds with awp, neo played really good and made many great movements, Taz and kuben were very good at defending closed bs, Loord in very good form, very good playing and owning in the final round 1 vs 3, great!)
And we also got near 2h of video in youtube from the first map!
2009-11-15 12:28:53
congrats guyz !!
2009-11-15 11:16:46
..
2009-11-15 11:22:14
Good job Poland huh :)
2009-11-15 11:29:17
now some new orga! plax :*
2009-11-15 11:35:12
the end of map one
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUYhlocHcY

Post edited 2009-11-15 11:41:50
2009-11-15 11:40:17
2009 Grand Final Fifth day: Final - Counter Strike 1set : fnatic vs Again
1:44:33


www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaUSjLtG4aM
2009-11-15 11:42:46
THX !!! :)
2009-11-15 12:05:32
gj again it was about time to someone stop the swedish domination.. Judging by the comments the fnatic fans had became little too confident about their team..
2009-11-15 11:46:12
gj AGAIN I`m so happy :D:D
2009-11-15 11:55:47
<3 POLAND <3 AGAiN ! TATHS WHY I LOVE THIS GAME ! - OLD SCHOOL - FTW !
2009-11-15 11:56:24
by: D3t
#526
Im fnatic fan but, good job guys! hope you can find an organisation ! great match!
2009-11-15 11:58:32
Someone should make a movie of that nuke war. With the critical highlights and with some crowd cheers and commentating.
2009-11-15 12:01:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLkHFudn3q8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt50cbLOCug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUYhlocHcY

not movie.. just rips.. but its ok!
2009-11-15 12:07:20
AHAHAHAHAHH YEAH, MOOOTHERFUCKERS!!!!! :D WHOS DA BEST?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!? AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH
2009-11-15 12:04:07
buhahaha

"fnatic fangirl say: easy for fnatic 16:0? 16:1?"

fnatic easy for AGAiN!
2009-11-15 12:04:18
TAK POLSKA MISTRZ
2009-11-15 12:10:12
massive congrats to AGAiN, didn't think they'd win personally but they proved me wrong! :p

gg
2009-11-15 12:14:15
plss demo or stream from match!

Post edited 2009-11-15 12:22:26
2009-11-15 12:19:18
fnatic let me down :(
2009-11-15 12:23:18
congrats tu AGAiN, they really deserved the 1st place. now i hope that some STABLE organization will make a deal with them :>
2009-11-15 12:25:26
WHERE ARE THOSE SWEDISH FANGIRLZ!?!?!?!???!?!?
2009-11-15 12:25:27
f**k u fnatic fanboys
2009-11-15 12:28:48
Where a demo from final???
2009-11-15 12:30:08
Very nice and sweet win for the world champions "GOLDEN FIVE". They are really deserve to have an good community. I love them because they are beat fnatic and prove that they can beat any team in the world, that is the REAL POWER, that is AGAiN !!!!
2009-11-15 12:31:33
DOes anyone have the FULL BROADCAST of the WCG FInal? (like the youtube links),wanna hear the commentators
2009-11-15 12:36:04
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaUSjLtG4aM
2009-11-15 13:28:00
AGAiN KAMANNNNN NEO
2009-11-15 12:36:19
demos?
2009-11-15 12:37:10
plss movie from match!

2 maps PLXX link
2009-11-15 12:38:37
+1000000000
2009-11-15 12:46:07
POLSKA DA BEST !!!!
2009-11-15 12:43:52
Nice game AgaiN..............sad fnatic =(
2009-11-15 12:52:15
fanboyz.. allways when something big happens a polish team the whole country has to write in the thread rofl. if fnatic or a swedish team would win we wouldnt even care much.. poland poor kid country
2009-11-15 12:53:50
And you think you are better than those kids? Your post tells me something just opposite. You r cocky sweedesh child who thinks is the smartest in the world...
Try to loose with dignity and allow other to enjoy their favourite team victory.
2009-11-15 14:02:09
lol? what a pathetic comment...
if fnatic win a tournament every swe memmber wrotes something, it's just normal. As every fan of his team does...
Is true that always when neo & co. play there are lot of polish comments, but true is too, that there are many members from poland than from other countries.
Is true that many polish members write no sense things, for example like you did now. but hey, live with it, ignore all those comments if you dont like them and be happy.
2009-11-15 14:04:35
http://www.wcg.com/6th/tv/tv_play.asp?keyno=C09111510029&index=200
2009-11-15 12:56:11
demo please :o
2009-11-15 12:59:22
surprised me!!

well done,Again!
2009-11-15 13:01:48
I'd say.. in MYMs face (not the team - the organisation).
2009-11-15 13:04:34
why polish "mengs" can not write properly in english.. its always engrish.. fak mengs , go to school and leave cs alone . Great Game AGAiN & fnatic
Congratz AGAiN.
2009-11-15 13:06:10
take a look at ur compatriots whenever Kicks play, then rethink what uve just written

2009-11-15 13:13:32
It took too much time to see the first flame..hltv.org it is not the same as it was 5 years ago..
2009-11-15 13:49:45
Well, I agree that many of my countrymen dunno English well. My own English is far from proper aswell... BUT, my portuguese friend, why are you whining about such a thing while your own country has most miserable literacy rate in whole European Union?! I don't mean that ur country is worse or something, but dude! Theres 5% of portugal mens that can't even read or write in their own language in XXI century! It's just saaad,

Cheers.
2009-11-15 13:51:09
+1
2009-11-15 15:01:51
will be a demo of the final??
2009-11-15 13:06:24
how much did they earn with this victory?
2009-11-15 13:06:51
35k
fnatic 18k
2009-11-15 13:58:11
:O
well, i guess they don't really care about finding quickly an organisation now, they must be able to live on this for at least 1 year ^^
2009-11-15 14:02:35
From an interview I read, one of them said they will save the money if a hard year will come (if they dont find an organization).
2009-11-15 15:10:24
yeh that's the best thing to do
2009-11-15 15:27:26
wow you poles really need to calm down =) fnatic weren't exactly overconfident, they just lost one match... Just count how many tournaments fnatic have won the past year.
2009-11-15 13:07:50
as i said many times - give AGAiN stabile organistation and will begin winning ;)
2009-11-15 14:09:10
What does the organisation have to do with it? Sure, it ables the team to attend events but that they've been doing all the time the past few months. And still without any further success. It doesn't really make them better, just gives them economical support.
2009-11-15 14:27:43
Organisation makes them a lot of free time for practicing... How do u think where how did they get money for travelling? they have to earn it - this means JOB which takes a lot of time. This is only example. Moreover comes - calm mind, and good connditions for training (bootcamps, inferno online etc.)
2009-11-15 14:37:52
and now time will repeat it self
2009-11-15 13:10:41
does anyone know what exactly happen between loord and get right and the fnatic team ?
2009-11-15 13:10:58
and what happened ? fight? :)
2009-11-15 13:28:59
if it was fight = gtr no chance loord nokaut first round :P
2009-11-15 14:20:34
hahaha ;p
2009-11-15 16:49:35
actually they drinking some good drinks :D
2009-11-15 13:39:05
demo demo gogo
2009-11-15 13:13:29
GG GUYS
2009-11-15 13:34:28
sad luck...
fnatic nr1
2009-11-15 13:34:45
sad comment :( have u seen the match?
2009-11-15 14:54:18
GG!
2009-11-15 13:38:42
omg :(
2009-11-15 13:46:28
Gj AGAiN
2009-11-15 13:51:48
no Ja te&#380; haha
2009-11-15 13:55:46
Nixon demo?
2009-11-15 13:55:47
Srsly, after reading some coments by polish fans i got to say 3 things:
First, gratz for again, awesome play.
Second, i understand that most of polish people who writes in hltv.org are under 16 and were very happy with the win, but you guys just make your country look like a joke when youre total narrow minded. Srsly needing to go to school and get educated at least.
Third, this is the first tournament that again won this year. Don't say things like "again is the best team in the world". That's just not true and everybody knows it. Neo maybe the best player, again aren't the best team.
2009-11-15 13:59:47
maybe that with stabile organisation they would dominate istead of fnatic? we will never know... unless in next year AGAiN will gain new org. and do some damage ;)
2009-11-15 14:06:39
maybe.. maybe not. Thats not my point. if again had won everything that fnatic did, i wouldnt question that again would be the best team in the world.
2009-11-15 14:09:14
that's true - fnatic is the best... for now. but remember nothing last foever ;)
2009-11-15 14:40:46
I am totally agree that fnatic is the best team in the world right now, even they lost with AGAiN it doesn't change anything for fnatic side.
It changed to AGAiN, important tournament won when they have not organisation, could help them finding one. They needed this victory, long time without top1 on important tournament.
And I really think that neo is the best player in the world, not because I am their fan, it's because he showed great level, impossible kills, fantastic movements (the best ones)... I could talk more about it, but each perosn has their own opinion about this topic, mine is that neo is the chosen one hehe.
2009-11-15 14:48:44
As you say, maybe. As you say, we will see. But that still means you can't say they are the best RIGHT NOW..
2009-11-15 15:03:05
Like I wrote on comment 604 on hltv there are many many members from Poland. Many of them write useless post. Many of them are just ignorant, like some of you (not talking about you).
And btw: You talked about education, Poland has one of the highest education in whole Europe, and higher than in Sweden so...
The problem is that the poles who are on hltv.org are ignorant, lot of them, and write things really senseless.
2009-11-15 14:17:43
shut up moron!!
2009-11-15 14:25:45
Just proved my point.
2009-11-15 18:10:47
NO!! it`s you that you are a moron confirm!!
Mom probably too much you loved in childhood...

Post edited 2009-11-15 22:46:43
2009-11-15 22:43:50
Go to school dude.
2009-11-15 23:53:01
+1
2009-11-15 14:25:58
+100
2009-11-15 15:06:30
true
2009-11-15 20:07:03
we wants some video of celebrating and something like that ;D

thnx anw .. :)
2009-11-15 14:01:12
Second final where gtr lost 1v1 situation in last round :d
2009-11-15 14:02:30
btw, power gaming must have become very strong, considering their match against the world champions ;)
2009-11-15 14:09:28
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW, SWEDES?
Damn, I was betting on fnatic :(
2009-11-15 14:25:09
2 x eswc
2 x wcg
+1
2009-11-15 14:25:33
Oh, didn't expect that one coming!

But it's actually very good if more teams shows that they can win. It's not funny if fnatic win, win, win, win and win.

Gratz! Well played AGAiN(Haha, u see?) ! =)
2009-11-15 14:30:21
eeeee!!!!!!!!!!!polska cool!!!!!fnatic sos!
2009-11-15 14:43:36
gj again
carn, stay to wcg 2010 :/
2009-11-15 14:44:19
begin

writeln(this is not topic about polish fan (fanboys));

writeln(stop crap swedish.. fnatic lose, AGAiN won.. and only this is important!);

if ('Swedish: polish fanboys are kids!') then
('Polish: yes.. most of polish members here are kids.. but our team won that event');

end.

Post edited 2009-11-15 14:47:20
2009-11-15 14:45:57
AGAin top 1 in world?
2009-11-15 14:48:48
of course.. not?
2009-11-15 20:14:02
gg poles, deserved win.
btw can someone tell me what exactly gtr did on the stage, about that mess with loord and gtr?

Post edited 2009-11-15 15:03:10
2009-11-15 14:53:39
Congratulations AGAiN, I thought you would win! But hey guys, you can't say AGAiN is the best team in the world after this... Winning one event, no matter what event, compared to winning five(these five are no small events either) is nothing. Finally I hope I get a mouse. :D
2009-11-15 15:04:46
so you bet on AGAiN? :o ;D
that's true, fnatic the best in the world.
btw: the best player imo is neo.. he is amazing!
2009-11-15 15:12:28
Yes I did, and yes neo is the best player in the world because he is the most consistent, and yes fnatic is the best team in the world. We think alike I see. ;)
2009-11-15 15:18:50
Thanks dude, I totally forgot about that mouse that I'M ABOUT TO WIN :D. And btw, does anybody know when will they announce who is the winner ?
2009-11-15 21:00:19
REPEAT IT : NICE KURWA !!!!!
2009-11-15 15:09:04
AGAiN top 1 again.
2009-11-15 15:11:51
*top3
2009-11-15 23:53:54
Im sorry if someone already asked before, the thread is too long for reading "gj" and "gg" stuff. So anyone knows why demo is not available yet ? :O
2009-11-15 15:12:07
Nix0n and MIRAA are busy now ? I think they work above this : )

Post edited 2009-11-15 15:16:20
2009-11-15 15:14:57
I hope so, cause the match was amazing. I rly want to save demo on my pc :D
2009-11-15 15:39:26
GZ AGAiN ....very nice play, gl in future.
2009-11-15 15:17:01
So happy for our guys :) AGAiN is the best team ever and this only matters with 2xESWC and 2xWCG. Wish them to find the organisation that will guarantee them stable support. I'm proud that after all this disappointment they didn't quit cs because they are making history of this game :)
2009-11-15 15:18:16
OMFG! GJ!
2009-11-15 15:22:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFCXckWf74E&feature=player_embedded
2009-11-15 15:30:56
Very nice match! It was really unexpected for me. I'd like to see a movie just like SK believe with this AGAiN's tournament :D

gL both teams in future ;D
2009-11-15 15:35:04
de_nuke demo ?
2009-11-15 15:38:01
AGAiN <33333

Jebncccccccccccccccccccccc fnatic !!!!!!!!!

AGAiN n1 !!!
2009-11-15 15:52:43
well gj again, it was a nice match, I only watched nuke so I'll search the demo from train later (:
I was cheering for fnatic u.u but it's nice to see a good final (:
2009-11-15 16:28:59
THE BEST PoLSKA =) , Neo LEGEND !
2009-11-15 17:00:15
Now that i think about it, they have no organisation, so $35.000/5=$7000 each? :O
2009-11-15 17:02:00
I can't believe how much ppl say "I love polskaa"
I'm proud of 'golden five' now!

GJ guys!
2009-11-15 17:15:00
what the fucking fuck OMFG, im no wait 2nd map and go sleep, and later hltv on, in 2nd map, FUCK THE ALL RETARDS WCG ADMINS, AND WHY NO ALL MAP HLTV, FUCK
2009-11-15 17:43:22
and GG, cArn dont back cs :D he's need a wcg win :D cArn will playing all 2010 year!
2009-11-15 17:46:19
Ive got a few things to say:
1.) Fnatic is the team of year by far, just because they havent won the biggest 1.6 tournie doesnt mean again is beter than them, fnatic have won 5 tournies this year (Correct me if im wrong) i suppose 5 big torunies can make up for them losing this one, i think again are 2nd best in the world imo, mtw have gone down hill, and sk are not quite there yet.
2.) Whoever said IEM was the biggest event, needs to be shot simple as. IEM ill put on with eswc, kode5 etc. wcg is THE biggest 1.6 event of year.
3.) Love how the sweedes havent said nothing on this thread ;)
NEO YOU ABOSULTE ANIMAL <3
3.)
2009-11-15 18:08:19
by: d4x
#716
NEO the best. Congrats
2009-11-15 18:18:07
gratz :]
2009-11-15 18:18:55
congratz again. Eventzz when AGAiN is a new clan they havent competed in so many tournaments but if you beat a team you're better than them.

Post edited 2009-11-15 18:22:41
2009-11-15 18:21:49
n1 :D
2009-11-15 18:29:22
no hltv of this match? :(
2009-11-15 19:24:43
damn .. where is demo ???
2009-11-15 19:39:33
I want to say somethhing about the wining of wcg by polish guys. I hope admins read these things,its all evenhanded what I am thinking.
When the page is opened, really forced to realize who win the wcg.With a few videos and articles you completed everything. If mtw and fnatic would win that tournament instead of polish guys you will never do same. You write page by page articles events about wining story if they win. What is your problem with these guys I cant understand but there is something obviously.
2009-11-15 20:38:26
i know it is a bit of topic but... what is going on with CPL and ESWC?
2009-11-15 21:30:20
Bankrupt.
2009-11-15 21:35:18
it was announced that someone bought eswc and it was announced that cpl will be back this year
2009-11-15 21:36:48
Yeah, you're right I saw something some time ago about CPL China or something, I don't know what happened with it, and there actually was an ESWC tournament this year when I think about it..
2009-11-15 21:37:56
it was before they announced bankrupt and it was EWSC Masters... any1 knows something about both?
2009-11-15 21:40:00
Oh, well, as you see, clearly I don't. xD
2009-11-15 22:26:00
Although I never specially liked the golden five, due to their -justified or not- bad attitude towards certain spanish team in the past, I gotta say that im pretty happy for them.

They are the meaning of a professional top team, they have won 2xeswc and 2xwcg in some years... they fucking deserve a top organization behind them.

I wish a spanish team did what PGS did ages ago, and that was taking the five best players of poland into the same team... but it seems very difficult.
2009-11-15 21:40:41
please give the DEMO link..................
2009-11-15 21:45:25
you can download demo from train from here:
http://cybersport.pl/newsy/pelny/Niesamowity_final_WCG_2009/0/0/0/5
2009-11-15 22:16:30
#741
did you know that the grand final has been watched trough stream by about 7 million people? so please don't be upset that this topic i very popullar atm.
2009-11-15 22:22:25
any video from stream at train??
2009-11-15 23:42:02
www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_bVhWU4zR8

Look at the 03:16 @ LoordB
He was like "wtf is going on? Where am I ? ;o LoL LaG!!!1!eleven"

imho lol x 1337
2009-11-16 02:30:13
? haha
2009-11-16 07:48:29
GOLD ! :)
2009-11-16 13:33:30
GG AGAIN :)
2009-11-16 07:30:20
GL...NEO and AGAIN,I think there are so many club will send Invitation to you.GO ON and Fight.You are the best
2009-11-16 08:18:40
Loord > fnatic ahhahahahha !
2009-11-16 08:36:13
yea :D
2009-11-16 13:28:56
the accel of steelkinzu made fnatic lose
2009-11-16 09:21:20
GG AGAiN
2009-11-16 16:00:02
good,but the music realy sucks!!! for the movie, it should be a clip with some fu.. hard ass kicking bitch smacking adrenaline giving music :), not some polish bitch singing pussy music :)

Post edited 2009-11-16 17:18:54
2009-11-16 17:13:03
damn i gotta make a movie with all the best moments from AGAiN game in the turnament
2009-11-16 17:16:17
#swe
Z tego co slyszalem(przeczytalem) to chlopcy z fnatic napinali 'przez kabel' w trakcie gry. Mariusz nie jest pizda i wyjebal mu info co o nim mysli prosto w twarz, a nie kozaczy za plecami. Kazdy tlumacz na swój sposób, ale i tak sie nie dowiemy jak bylo naprawd&e ;)

'Zloto juz mamy! Za chuja go nie oddamy!' - Prawie jak Pudzian 'Polska góra!' ;)

Post edited 2009-11-16 19:31:01
2009-11-16 19:29:07
when are stats of wcg going to be done?
2009-11-16 21:46:40
NICE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaUSjLtG4aM -
2009-11-16 22:09:18
Will there be no demo from the match?

don't want to watch it on youtube
2009-11-17 00:23:50
There are only one demo at HLTV.ORG.The last compepition between Again and fnatic on the train demo can be downloaded in Demo section in HLTV.ORG.You can find it on the left page
2009-11-17 03:24:54
Yes,It's so funny.Fnatic can win every match except WCG.It must be a curse with fnatic!Carn said he have gained every NO.1 except WCG,He wanted he can take the NO.1 in the WCG2009.But the curse still is not breaked by him.It will become his regret if he can't take the first in his professional career.^^
2009-11-17 03:20:51
gg
2009-11-18 07:05:01
It seems to me that some people here are quite bitter. Fanboyism is fine (hey I'm a G5 fan too :P) but fanatical fanboyism is a little over the top..

I mean... fnatic sucks? suck on that fnatic? seriously lol, what have they ever done to you? It's like they have stolen your money or f0rest aced your girlfriends in bed or something like that. All they ever wanted was to win as many events as they can.

I do hope their winning run stops now haha.. it's getting boring now. :(
2009-11-18 12:12:54
Dear All. I have always have been a spectator to all of Your and HLTV posts. But I have just had to register today to explain something.

What 95 % of You don't get and understand is the phenomenon of the AGAIN team. You don't understand the comfort of play of teams like fnatic and SK, which are having full financial support and organisation. You really can't understand that AGAiN won without anybody behind them ?

They've been f.... in the ass by at least 3 giant org and I can easily say any other team would probably quit or regroup by now. They havent. They survived. And that is something completely amazing. It makes them grande. It makes them special. And it is unbeliveable that they won this WCG. And I think because they've struggled so much this Year (main reason no org) they are the best team.

You have to take into account all the problems they've faced.

Also once they trained a good deal of time - they win a tournament. You guys don't have a clue what massive damage they will do once they get const. support.

Don't underappreciate polish G5. They are capable of beating anyoone and do it evertime. They are just one special team in the history.

You can't compare it to any of the "rich" SK, fnatic teams. They are above it.

Best Regards,

p.
2009-11-19 11:39:53
Its 100% true

Very important opinion

Thank you

Post edited 2009-11-20 13:33:56
2009-11-20 13:32:56
demos is matches final Again vs FnatiC?? for map train?? No demos is Demo section. Comment please. thx
2009-11-20 13:14:41
http://cybersport.pl/newsy/pelny/Niesamowity_final_WCG_2009/0/0/0/6

here u are
click demo and download

Post edited 2009-11-20 13:47:36
2009-11-20 13:46:18
Taz best player ever
gogogo polska
2009-11-21 14:19:21

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