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Prize Money in 2016 (LUL)

Written by ("_') STR!KER ('_") <3 GamerGate | 2017-02-09 20:39
Hey bros its your boy h3h3 here with another content cop... Today we are discussing prize money in 3 main esports in 2016: 1. We will discuss the obvious king of Prize Pool - DotA 2. Then we will move on with the obvious underdog being CS:GO and I will end the comparison with a popular game called Overwatch that is starting to pick more and more steam... This blog will only include the biggest tournaments in the 3 games the so called Premier Tournaments which are considered the most important events in thoose games (this DOESNT include ONLY majors)


Defense of the Ancients 2


There is no other game I followed more in 2016 then I followed DotA 2. The main reason is me getting bored of CS and getting addicted to this MOBA. Now I won't discuss gameplay and stuff, but will concentrate on the prize pool retribution.

The first main thing that will fall in one's eyes is the insane prize pool for The International 6. Breaking the 20,000,000$ barrier it is by far the biggest esports prize pool of all time breaking the previous record set by TI5. Another interesting fact is the 3 Majors that were all Valve-sponsored (same with CS:GO's ,but throphy and stuff was also made by Valve). Every major has a 3,000,000$ prize pool which is obvioulsy much bigger then CS's majors. If you do not include thoose 4 Valve sponsored events you can see that the prize pool of the other tournaments can be very easily compared to those of CS:GO. Another comparison are the number of tournaments - CS:GO has almost twice as much Premier Tournaments, which is something important to note.

CS:GO


Now... I didn't follow CS:GO at all in the last year. Though I wasn't surprised at the numbers here. CS has got a wapping 34 Premier Tournaments surpassing DotA's only 18. The prize money though is absolutely nothing compared to DotA's insane 33,000,000$ overall prize pool for the entire year. Still 2016 was a very succesful year for CS's prize pool - for the first time in the history of the game we broke the 10,000,000$ in an year, which is deffinetely a huge step forward.

I am going to discuss why I think DotA gets more attention then CS:GO by Valve and why we haven't seen a TI-look-a-like event with CS in the end of the blog...

Overall I would deffinetely say it was a succesful year for CS:GO and we have a lot to be proud of as fans of the game (in regards to money at least).

Overwatch


WutFace??? Overwatch? Well, I have chosen Overwatch for couple of reasons. First of all this is a brand new e-sport that is quickly winning a lot of popularity and it's interesting how much did Blizzard do for just one year. Total number of less then one million might be depressing for today's standards, BUT again this is just the beginning for the young game. For the more hardcore CS:GO fans - you can remember the 2013 times when the game actually got much less then 880,000 for the entire year.

Now the second reason is the fact that alongside Rainbow's Six: Siege, Overwatch might be the biggest rival to CS:GO in the future. So it is always great to keep an eye on the competitor, which is already a very popular game on twitch.

No League?

1. I wasn't able to find all Premier Tournaments for League of Legends so I don't think it's fair to compare it withot the exact numbers on my side.
2. We aren't here to discuss LoL =/= DotA 2, but to talk about the future of CS:GO.

DotA 2 > CS:GO... for now

I am pretty sure most of you have already questioned, why exactly Valve chooses DotA over CS:GO and the answer is pretty simple:

DotA 2 has a competitor... A real one. A competitor that has millions of players all around the world and is arguably the more succesful game - League of Legends. Valve, the clever company they are, realizes that and quickly makes a counter move understanding that it already lost the battle for most players: It completely oblitaretes League in the esports scene and more importantly the Prize Pools. The big cash is witout a doubt on the side of Gaben and he uses that to keep LoL under control and understands that DotA must remain succesful if it wants to have a chance in the MOBA market.

CS:GO has no one to fight against... For the last couple of years CS was the only esports tactical FPS out there. Valve understood that and didn't change any of the Major's prizepools until a massive community outcry in the end of 2015. Valve also saw something on the horizon the rise of Blizzard's new IP - Overwatch. Now 2017 will be the year that will deside the future of Prize Pools in CS. IF Overwatch fails, I really don't expect Valve to change any of the Major Prizepools for the next couple of years. IF Overwatch succeeds and becomes a popular E-sport, Valve will be pushed, just like with DotA, to increase the prize money and MAYBE for the love of god HOPEFULLY introduce an event just like Dota's International with a huge prize pool, thus hugely boosting the cash winnings for the future. And there is laways Rainbow's Six: Siege to keep an eye on - a game that has drasticly improoved in 2016 and is actually a very enjoyable experience and a rising e-sport as well.

Well that's it from me... A lot of text, a lot of useless information like always. Thanks for reading. And also thanks to the awesome Dota 2 Liquipedia, CS:GO Liquipedia and Overwatch Liquipedia for all the gathered information and numbers luv you <3.



no thanks
2017-02-09 20:41:06
We all know Dota2 > CSGO on prize pool and on population.Seems asian don't like CS and can't be good how they are on dota2/lol
2017-02-09 20:44:31
d2 is f2p a big advantage over CS
2017-02-09 20:45:42
asians go where the money flow, so not csgo
2017-02-10 06:58:29
This is good bait
2017-02-09 20:59:21
Azubu didn't pay a penny
2017-02-09 21:17:06
Azubu didn't pay a penny
2017-02-09 21:18:24
write a blog before you talk XD
2017-02-09 21:25:27
Azubu didn't pay a penny
2017-02-09 22:04:08
I don't see WESG on the list
2017-02-09 21:26:30
it was in 2017
2017-02-09 21:44:01
you have that gut gedone. 5/8.
2017-02-09 21:46:18
The reason, that the pricepool in dota2 is so high, is that you can buy these Internationals compendium, and some % of the money from these goes to the internationals pricepool :)
2017-02-09 21:46:25
stickers
2017-02-20 03:00:57
Good read. Valve needs to get serious on CSGO. If we cancel just the international, the Dota2 prize money is equivalent to CSGO with the fact that CSGO had 2 majors with million dollars each but dota2 had 3 majors with 3 mil each. So we can say that the community behind CSGO is bigger since Eleague, in no way associated to major handed out bigger prizes compared to Valve. Also, if they add keys whose %age completely goes to major prize pools, I think with the skin hype that was real a few years back, we could've overtaken dota2 in 2015 itself
2017-02-10 06:17:54
asians populate 88.9% of world confirmed. obviously CSGO wont have more success if asians have no success at CSGO
2017-02-10 07:00:30
Actually thats pretty good. I thought it would be way lower.


Why didnt you compare LoL?
2017-02-10 09:56:37
couldnt find all the priemier League tournaments so i didnt include it
2017-02-11 15:38:55
Isn't there where DoTa players can discuss DoTa?
2017-02-10 19:20:36
Wesg?
2017-02-10 20:36:44
2017
2017-02-10 20:53:18
The name of the event is Wesg 2016 so 2016... but idk rly
2017-02-11 00:18:38
You can't really compare DOTA2 becaue it has PEOPLE's money on TI... all CS tournament prizes are paid by the organization themselves.
2017-02-11 21:57:08
So from the statistics what I can see is CS Go is not far off from Dota -The International. Dota had around 13 million if you don't include The International and CS Go had over 11 million prize money.
I would say best solution is to give CS Go "The International" tournament as well because CS Go has already surpassed that shit game.
2017-02-14 23:54:07
csgo is actually far from dota...i mean you had 18(17 without international) tournaments in dota vs 34 tournaments in csgo.so even if you will take off international,its

13 million from 17 tournaments vs 11 million from 34 tournaments
2017-02-18 14:52:45
They don't give the international for CS Go cause they know if they do that the prize money and support from our community would surpass any international dota has ever had and would make Dota look more dead than it already is.
2017-02-20 19:15:14
the more money there is in cs tournaments, the more incentive to cheat.
2017-02-14 23:55:59
Nice read.

One point I wanna talk about (also I'm wondering how you see it, as you seem to have some knowledge about the esports scene): Do you think Dota2 is more popular because it's easier for ppl to understand what's happening? I think that in csgo, all players under, let's say LEM rank, dont really understand what's (really) going on and just watch for nice frags and commentator reactions. In dota2, once you've played all the heroes at least once, you can easily relate to what's happening in a pro game.

Might be a small factor aswell, thoughts?

2017-02-17 13:44:04
I wouldn't say that's the case. I'd say it's the other way around actually. In order to understand dota you don't only have to understand every heros abilities, you also have to be more up to date with the meta etc. Even I who has played a lot of dota 2 when it came out and HoN before that have a hard time following whats happening in big teamfights in dota

I think CS is easier to follow. It's basically just 5 guys killing each other and the HUD makes it easy for spectators to see how many's alive on each team etc. You even get to see players through the walls so you can enjoy it even if you don't completely know the maps.
2017-02-18 05:48:12
how do you explain the bigger viewership of dota2 then? Is it only because of valve pushing the game financially? Because I thought many ppl would watch the "easier to understand" game and that's why Dota/LoL have more viewers.
2017-02-18 20:25:41
Because more people play those games. And I'm pretty sure it's only TI that has significantly more viewers and that's of course because it's a much bigger event than any CS event.
2017-02-18 20:59:27
it's interesting to see, that both LoL and Dota2 have more players (and therefore more viewers) eventhough they are both MOBA's. People dont like shooters so much appearantly. CS doesnt really have competitors besides overwatch and CoD (maybe battlefield) but these games are on a much lower level I believe.
2017-02-18 23:48:46
Yes, thats how it is nowadays and has been for the last 7 years or so. 15 years ago it was all about CS, quake, painkiller etc (shooters). It will change again. Maybe not towards shooters, but mobas wont be the top esport forever.
2017-02-19 00:03:57
I hope so, I really like them but I believe that the highest level has already been reached. Once you have 100% knowledge about the game ( like you know every hero, every item on every hero and every enemy hero + timings on lanes and possible combos/counterpicks) it's all about motor activity and that, in my oppinion, is alot easier than in CS or other shooters. Agree?
2017-02-19 13:46:21
idk about that. Just because you know every move in chess doesnt mean you are the best. There's still an almost unlimited combinations that can be played and there's thought behind it and reading your opponent etc.

I can't say which is harder between dota and CS, all I can say is they're different
2017-02-19 15:22:12
The thing is, we don't want a TI event for CS. It's much better to have a few more big tournaments per year than one.

If 2/3 of the total prize pool would come from only one tournament a year it would kinda overshadow the others.

And honestly, nowadays we're at the point where CS pros are making enough, even tier2 and 3 teams can quit their day job and play CS full time and the tier1 players that have been around for a long time are reaching the level of being able to retire for good after their CS career. (The ones that have made millions including prize money but also salaries, sticker money, sponsor bonuses, donations etc etc)

I think this is a good level. I wouldn't personally care if they made much more than they are today, I don't think it would actually benefit the viewing experience. And as superappelflap above said, it would only make players more prone to cheat
2017-02-18 05:44:16
I disagree for one main reason. When you are earning salaray already you arent really pushed to your boundries - you arent rly playing your best CS. This can be perfectly seen in NA , where we have a couple of giant orgs that have teams, who are either struggling or just total dogshit and dont deserve any of the money they are earning. If you have this ONE event though with the sick prize pool, it is natural to go there and play your absolute best CS and try and win the event. That would mean of course that some of the other event will be left in the dust (maybe not though - it didnt happen with dota 2 so why should it happen here)
2017-02-18 14:43:18
It did happen with dota. People only care about ti. Teams are saving strays for months etc. Not fun to watch. Better having 3 tournaments a year.

Sure, the prizepool/salary ratio could be higher.
2017-02-18 14:57:27
dont agree that people care only about ti... We did hype the majors as well and events in CIS are also rly loved
2017-02-18 15:03:26
CS is ded my frend
2017-02-18 14:53:44

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