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2012-05-28 03:14
The American LAN scene is soon to be dead completely. Over 14,000 users playing on ESEA and only 2,000 of them play competitively. Each and every one of the 14,000 cs players pay $6.99 a month and you guys would think we're stupid and we are sadly.

Now, that number is so little compare to other countries, but 2,000 people paying 6.99? How about $50 for a lan fee? Well theres a Tournament in the east side of the US and is sponsored by Cool masters. But this blog is about that no one is trying to go to LAN in the US. All the pros teams are lazy, not dedicated, or active. Also, no one in the community is going because they think "its not worth the time". Ironically they ALL complain how the American CS LAN scene is dead, but you can clearly see why.

Now, in this LAN tournament only about 3 teams are going and we are all posting on the forum and advertising, I am sure everything who plays CS actively has seen the advertisements, but they simply won't go. CS 1.6 in American has officially died. Also, yesterday on Saturday night, only 4 teams total were scrimmaging. This comes to the conclusion that no team really takes CS 1.6 seriously in America.

Might as well quit
by: ohai
#1
"we are all posting on the forum and advertising"

How about mentioning it here? You don't even give the name so that one can google it :(
2012-05-28 03:54:16
2,000 playing competivily? Everyone in the league is playing competitivly or they wouldnt pay the $15 or so dollars to play in the league. Tons of people are playing and lpkane (co-founder) already said this is one of the largest seasons they've had.
2012-05-28 04:02:14
Nothing lpkane says can be taken as truth. Hes lyeing scum like most of ESEA staff sadly. He is no different than Angel Munez. Just trying to squeeze the last of the profits he can out of this dried up community with his greedy little hands.
2012-05-29 03:54:14
#3 when cs was alive in the US, there was 50+ scrims off client at once. You clearly haven't been playing CS 5 years back.
2012-05-28 04:08:15
I really think ESEA did kill CS 1.6 in terms of the numbers, but sure it helped the community from hackers. People like me don't pay 6.99, either someone pays for me or i quit simple as that. This is game is 10 dollars and a monthly fee is 6.99!? My team in '06 ALL QUIT BECAUSE OF ESEA. you don't see that because ESEA has its own community and its shuns out everyone outside of it.
2012-05-28 04:12:13
Before ESEA came out there was a problem with cheaters playing in leagues and doing well. ESEA pretty much eliminated all cheaters playing in leagues and brought the community together to clean it up, naturally ur going to lose players because the ones that used to cheat are just going to suck now. The reason cs is dying in NA is because the game is old and Valve has came out with Source and CS:GO to pretty much try and replace 1.6 so we then lose 1.6 players to other versions of CS. CS like everything else cant live forever, and just cuz ur young and dont want to pay for ESEA, dont blame it for killing the community.

Post edited 2012-05-28 15:26:38
2012-05-28 15:25:34
You are absolutely wrong.

First off, ESEA never has nor EVER will negate the cheating community. There are public hacks from 2006 that work on ESEA as of THIS VERY MOMENT (the last time ESEA client even had a serious update for it's cheat detection was over a year and a half ago and you'd laugh if I told you what their idea of updates are). The only reason you can't see it now is because players have gotten far better at hiding it by now. There are JUST as many cheaters as there always has been.

Second of all, ESEA is ABSOLUTELY to blame for CS dyeing in America. Some can say, "Oh well it is keeping the game alive," but to you I say that is no different than someone shooting you with a gun and then paying for your life support when you get sent to the emergency room.

ESEA completely monopolized the community and a monopoly in something as young as what some call "E-sports" is far too premature. Especially when the monopoly in question is absolutely plagued with incompetence to run their organization correctly and corruption to a criminal degree.



2012-05-29 04:03:20
luckily LAN CS still alive here :)
2012-05-28 04:15:50
NOT ONCE did I thought of CS ever dying until ESEA came along. If ESEA was so great why hasn't anyone from the pro division been complementing ESEA for "benefiting the community". Before ESEA, there were lans like x3o and sponsors. Their existence angered me and I LITERALLY wrote a 2,000 word Business paper about HOW MUCH esea is crap by analyzing their 5 ways of business.
2012-05-28 04:17:09
by: sbe
#8
You think ESEA has anything to do with sponsors dropping cs? Sponsors and lans make money when people attend and people watch. No new gamer wants to watch or play 1.6 because compared to new games it looks like shit. If ESEA never came about years ago in US the scene would have been worse off years ago.

People also got greedy with CGS and CPL paying so much money. CAL died because people stopped playing for the fun and desire and began playing for money.
2012-05-28 04:26:11
by: sbe
#7
Here in Texas we have Lethal Gamers at least 7-8 times a year. Drafts and Team events.
2012-05-28 04:20:24
by: Kills
#9
thats one of the reasons why that european team are more popular than american teams wich is weird cause usa gamers are pretty good though 2 of then are known worldwid EG. and b2b a litle
2012-05-28 04:32:04
sbe you're trying to avoid the big idea. Stop nit picking because you know that Lethal Gamers not successful (30 people turnout in draft mode is bad) well as in past events like x3o and WCG shootout where all their LAN spots were taken. CAL died because the owner sold it for a lot of money and CPL couldn't pay off their debts. The owner of CPL is a millionaire who I added on facebook. THAT DOESN'T MEAN CS IN THE US IS DEAD. It died because of low participation.
2012-05-28 04:37:18
Disagree, I think the North America CS scene is still alive. Obviously you can't compare the current scene with the old one, the american scene in his prime was one of the best, and when you said that ESEA is killing the NA scene lol no I'm grateful that ESEA exists because they are keeping NA and LA scene on top. I would say that CS @USA is dying but it's still alive.
2012-05-28 04:58:32
Saying ESEA keeps CS alive is a joke. Someone could shoot you in the lung and then pay for your life support bills in the emergency room and they would still technically be "keeping you alive". It's not a good deed when they are PART of the problem in the first place you oblivious moron.
2012-05-29 04:06:04
Yeah yeah, the only joke here is you.
2012-05-29 17:25:48
Just by you saying its alive doesn't mean its alive, you gotta prove it and for I did it prove it, if you wanna read my 2,000 word essay, then lets do it. Got a 6/7 IB score
2012-05-28 05:09:11
its better when you reply them^^
2012-05-28 15:09:33
+1
2012-05-28 16:45:07
ESEA might kill NA CS but not because u have to pay to play, instead because you can play a scrim or league matches from the comfy of your own computer than going to a lan center
2012-05-28 05:44:07
You realize this is the last ESEA-Lan season for ESEA right? There are no more sponsors left, so therefore people is gonna have to pay from their own pocket hight I don't think they will because Back2Back is too good right now and they will win every single season that means its basically giving money for free.
2012-05-28 07:22:54
sad..
2012-05-28 07:30:05
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#16
American international CS died with EG, it wouldn't surprise me that over time the online scene is dimming down as well. At least there are still "pugs", I see a lot of videos about them. It seems they're all taken as a joke though. At least the ones posted anyway.
2012-05-28 11:58:30
Don't rely on CS if it's already dead in your country. :)
2012-05-28 14:39:38
If you try to get it up you can get it up..
2012-05-28 14:52:04
t his is fucking sad :S still thats a big amount of people
2012-05-28 15:32:51
Not really understanding your post. Furthermore, it couldn't come at a worse time considering Torbull is currently looking for LAN centers around the US to hold events for ESEA. Have some faith.

ESEA has nothing to do with CS dying. ESEA has kept NA CS alive. If you have been playing cs long enough you would know that NA cs needed ESEA. Sure the system has flaws, but how could you say we would be better off without an automated gather system and league like ESEA (should we still be playing in CEVO and looking for scrims on gamesurge?!)


-ESEA did not kill NA CS (ESEA has been around since 04, well before CAL and CEVO lost popularity)

-ESEA did not kill LANS (lol!?, lack of sponsors and the loss of interest of CS in the "mainstream" of gamers killed LANS, LAN centers/internet cafes are simply not that profitable anymore.


ESEA adapted to NA CS's problems and naturally took over because gamers flocked to a place where they had faith in the system and the anticheat. We live in a capitalist society, we demand a place where we can play CS securely and ESEA delivers that environment. Wheres the problem?

Pro teams are not "lazy". They put in ample time in the game. They are not being paid, with the exception of a few teams receiving minimal perks. When the majority of the community is ~22 years old and have real life responsibilities (and lives), you can't expect there to be 20 scrims on Saturday night (lol? when has ESEA ever been like this, get real man). People play for fun and the competitive spirit/teamplay of the game. No one in NA is going into a DM for 5 hours a day in hopes to become the best CS player the world has ever seen.

Have faith in Torbull, if there is anyone who will do something for great for ESEA and the NA LAN scene it will be him.
2012-05-28 18:36:24
"ESEA is keeping CS alive".

I've said this once and I'll say it again...

ESEA "keeping a community" alive that they helped CONTRIBUTE to it's death in the first place is NO DIFFERENT AT ALL from someone shooting you then afterward paying for your emergency room bills. It was THEIR fault in the first place.

It is not a good deed on Torbull or ANYONE from ESEA's behalf if they are PART of the problem in the first place.....
2012-05-29 04:08:02
how did ESEA contribute to the death of anything and how are they part of the problem? They stepped up and coded a gather system and an anticheat client to keep shitty players like you out of the community. The only thing ESEA killed is your chances at cheating in the NA CS scene.

Oh and If ESEA is so easy to cheat on then how come you are BANNED?

You live in a dream world. Just because you got banned from ESEA for being a nerd doesn't mean the company sucks. Maybe eventually you'll learn how to play a 12 year old game (unlikely).
2012-05-29 04:43:55
I was banned for malicious activity NOT for cheating (because I called BiGG a morbidly obese failure). So get your facts straight first of all.

Second of all I play at a level that you can't even conceive. Theres a funny trend of famous "supposed" cheaters. Want to know what me, pondfiller, kayfuNk, ovi, and colon have in common. We all put kids like you in your place on LAN when we show what we can do on LAN.
2012-05-29 05:02:35
I'm banned from ESEA so I'm sure that includes any and all LAN events associated with them. I'd be down to compete at any worthwhile LANs in America but sadly there are not any teams worth my time left in the States. And the few that are convincd I cheat/will cheat on-LAN, etc. Teams are either not talented or not dedicated. Those that are dedicated are often bad, and those that are talented are often indifferent and lackluster now.
2012-05-29 03:50:57
No one thinks you'll cheat on LAN. I talked to a few people that were at that FL LAN you attended and they said you averaged about 4 frags per half and were violently shaking the whole time.

Again you live in a dream world.

You were never good at cs.
You never played with any good team.
You never achieved anything other than trolling forums imagining you are good at this game.

We all know if you attended a LAN you would blow dick, average 4 frags a half and probably leave prematurely to avoid getting your ass kicked.

Post edited 2012-05-29 04:48:50
2012-05-29 04:48:14
It's funny how your lies are getting progressively worse.

First off, people did accuse me of cheating at one of the Gigabits LAN tournaments I went to years and years ago because they thought I had some kind of aimbot drivers installed with my mouse (even though that isn't even physically possible). So I was forced to use some crap G5 in place of my usual MX518. Plus every so often some random Asian chick that that paticular LAN (Jezebel from echo7 maybe? I have no clue who she was) kept spamming my insert and home keys inbetween certain round freezetimes to see if any cheat menus came up while I was trying to buy guns/listen to whatever terrible strat my useless pug I met the day of the LAN was attempting to call for us to do.

Second of all, if I was never good at CS that wouldn't explain why people find me so inconceivably good that they can't come up with any other explanation for my talent than this following voice recording from a certain ESEA-Invite player:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detail..

That moron right there in that video reminds me of you. You can't come up with any real worth to anything you say. You fabricate trash out of thin air.

Never played in a good team? Hm... yet another backwards statement. I've been on so many teams that have been wrongfully accused of cheating that I could write a novel out of the rage PMs we would get as a whole over IRC every day years ago. BMW, MRD, SLP, and a brief cameo on iaqptbcspe for giggle with Kris. Want to know what every one of those teams had in common. They made nerds like you cry tears of disbelief at just how much better we were than you and your shit team that all you could see and believe was cheats.

And even though your last statement is obviously you ignoring the fact that I have actually carried every pug I've ever went to LAN with then I'll be glad to do it again. Find me a team. Let me be their strat caller. Let me be their AWP. Have them pay for any and ALL expenses, and I will win whatever petty competition has the displeasure of playing against me.
2012-05-29 05:12:52
LOL i actually feel bad for you right now, you really prove that you can be whoever you want on the internet (or maybe you have serious pyschological problems, in which case you should seek help.)

When you wake up one day and realize you're 30 living in your moms basement, you then can begin living.

good luck in your journey. may you one day experience life.

Post edited 2012-05-29 07:41:33
2012-05-29 07:40:54
still css lans in america are pretty active, teams too
2012-05-29 19:08:25
Agree and CS:GO will merge CSS and CS.16 people :)


Post edited 2012-05-29 20:33:28
2012-05-29 20:32:30
csgo is a strage thing, pro player from COD4 (very active in europe) are moving to csgo, will be awsome to have css + 1.6 + cod4 players
2012-05-30 18:39:23
THIS
2012-06-01 17:12:25
because americans are lazy people , so they choose a easy game , not a hard like 1.6 , you have to train , on source you don't , it's a very noobfriendly game , so the americans choose it ...
2012-06-01 17:27:24
Americans ruin everything. They suck balls. They cheat a lot. Everything they do is shit.
2012-06-01 17:10:44
a german calling others cheaters ? hmmmm
2012-06-01 17:23:53
You forgot about your country :)
2012-06-01 17:31:08
Oh, the irony..
2012-06-02 02:49:20
And that there of the equipment of n0thing? Still do they continue without sponsor? Equal for my it is impossible that the CS dies in the USA since they have several valuable players
2012-06-01 18:07:24
America is a continent, not just USA...
2012-06-01 18:13:17
by: sobo
#52
no one is going to fly out to your tournament that has shitty prizes.

Post edited 2012-06-02 03:37:03
2012-06-02 03:36:33
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