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Valve forcing (want) me to switch to CS:GO...
2012-07-16 14:04
When they do it better than CS 1.6 I will switch to it, but right now in overall it's worse than CS 1.6.

"Worse" I mean about minor dynamism, game like CS need really good movement and it doesn't need to be realistic.

Strafing - it should be the same like in CS 1.6 or a little tweaked to be better, but this requires some good arguments.

Bunny hopping - it's hard to choose something other to add more dynamics to the game. In example they can replace it to some movement like in BF3/MW3, I mean about jump animation, climbing ladder animation etc. but we don't want BF3/MW3 hybrid we need the best FPS game with the best movement player control.

Movement behaviour - walking, crouching maybe they should to add lying 'why not? :x' it will add some more dynamics to the game, I imagine it myself and it looks to me like a good idea, but this requires some really good arguments.

Design and construction of maps are others part of the CS dynamism. I will give you some example:

CS 1.6 for me this maps look like places with artificial construction for sport like Paintball. So this idea of mapping in games like Counter-Strike must remain in others CS games.

CS:GO mapper made more realistic construction of the maps which is really bad idea, we don't need many balconies, lamps, barrels, cans my point is we don't need realistic war Counter-Terroris vs. Terrorists, we need some fake/set funny game of CT and TT like in real life which is Paintball in example. About the textures these in CS:GO are not bad, but it should be quality better for 2012 game.

So maps should be like fake construction for fun, I'm sure maps with this idea will be better for game and add more dynamics to the game.

What do you think about my thoughts?

Thanks in advance for comments.
I think everybody knows already about what Cs 1.6 is. x)
2012-07-16 14:13:15
Not everybody (Valve, Steam forum community etc.).
2012-07-16 14:25:43
Oh yeah, obviously!

Anyways I don't understand your complain. Daily I read any fucking complain blogs that cs is dying. YEAH, it is dying and you can't change it anyways. There won't be big tournaments anymore. The people who like to play for fun will still play it for fun.
Deal with it.
2012-07-16 14:39:49
You don't understood my point.

I know that CS 1.6 is dying but I don't want to write about it, I wrote about how the new CS should look at least.
2012-07-16 14:48:55
What you wrote is how you want the game to be, and that will never happen. You dont like it, dont play it, no one will really care if you play it or not to be exact lol
2012-07-16 16:14:23
Valve didn't want to do a 1.6 like, they're just doing their (shitty) different stuff, that's all. Don't play, I hope most of us won't play either, no players, no viewers, no sponsors, CS 1.6 back.
2012-07-17 01:04:20
all the boxes hosting 1.6 servers will be reallocated and formatted for new games its inevitable
2012-07-24 07:42:12
everywhere knows what 1.6 is bar hltv, you're all delusional and really do need to let go of this 1.6 will live forever train of thought, 1.6 has had its time, let it die without your ridiculous fanboyism
2012-07-17 03:31:37
+1
2012-07-17 03:48:35
I agree cs should not be made so much realistic cuz then there will be no fun... let cs remain cs,they should stick to classic cs
2012-07-16 14:18:13
Thanks for your opinion.
2012-07-16 14:30:10
No-one's forcing you to do anything. Play the game that you want to play.
2012-07-16 14:21:01
I only want to share with you with my arguments :)

Maybe you have some other, yo ucan write it in here, thanks.
2012-07-16 14:24:36
agree 100%
2012-07-16 14:36:25
+1 I won't switch to CS:GO
2012-07-16 14:46:16
my dream CS:GO
- graphics of BF3
- physics engine of cs 1.6
2012-07-16 14:48:16
second dream will never happen:(
2012-07-16 16:11:42
neither the first , look at cs:go graphics , still outdated
2012-07-17 18:55:35
HAHAH definitely not lying on the ground :D:D on d2 you come from tunnels towards the B and there's an awper lying down there?:D No chance.
2012-07-16 14:49:29
It was only idea for some new thing in Movement behaviour :P and why you say "no chance" they will have it with stronger smoke, because in new CS we don't need to see through the smoke.

Maybe you have some other ideas, you can write it in here, thanks.
2012-07-16 14:55:46
All the same - just add the damn graphics.
2012-07-16 14:57:27
Maybe not all, but thats what CS 1.6 pro scene want :)

Thanks for your opinion.
2012-07-16 15:01:00
Oh yes.. add bazooka :))
2012-07-16 17:00:48
dude the game is in beta stage do you realize that. and no one is forcing your fat ass to switch anywhere, play this game for another 10 years like people do play 1.5 still in random public servers. who cares
2012-07-16 19:06:52
I know it's in beta, but they simply don't want to do it better than CS 1.6.
2012-07-17 11:49:02
who a u, when valve telling u swtich to CSGO?
2012-07-16 15:02:48
"me" is also "you" or "us".
2012-07-16 15:14:26
1.6 is good as it is i don't why they need a 'better' game that plain honest sucks ..
2012-07-16 15:21:28
How the fuck is valve forcing you to switch ?

2012-07-16 15:39:59
Actually, they(Valve, etc.) are like government in our countries; strong, powerful, not fair, retarded. You have the greatest fps game in history, and you still make money of that game, and you wanna ruin it by some great/real life graphics details, seems like I play CoD/Battlefield/MOH.

CS 1.5/1.6 are the best games ever released by Valve, they gain millions of hearts world wide by these games. They are old? So what?! The older, the better, like wine. When you play some game for so many years 4fun/praccc that means that the game you play is actually great game, why change it?

I understand that 1.6 need some changes in game, but it's easier to fix some detalis on 1.6 rather then making a new game which 80% CS 1.6 players hate it, right? Afterwards, they force that awful game, and killing CS 1.6, if they succeed with CS:GO, that game won't live long like CS 1.6.

Cheers!
2012-07-16 15:47:43
Thanks for your opinion
2012-07-17 12:03:49
I hope you share the same opinion, but, thanks anyway.
2012-07-17 17:27:39
I think the comunity will be divided again many will switch to cs:go many will stay with 1.6
Events dropping 1.6 Eventually 1.6 will die
cs:go probably a big fail again... lets hope not

Post edited 2012-07-16 15:57:15
2012-07-16 15:56:39
"It's all about the money, money, money..."

but I will never touch this game again (CS:GO i mean). I have played this yesterday like 30min and I must say that this is fucking joke :D

There are thousands of people that will never leave 1.6 so dont worry guys, just play it and dont care about GO, this will fail now or later.
cheers!<3
2012-07-16 16:15:52
you failed
2012-07-16 21:26:43
no name said
2012-07-17 12:28:02
Some polish troll, don't pay attention on him.
2012-07-17 13:32:06
zero died, source died, cs go will die
2012-07-16 17:04:24
source was never really alive
2012-07-16 18:17:21
+1
2012-07-16 18:24:31
not like 1.6, but still better than new CODs
2012-07-16 19:54:41
+1
2012-07-17 18:53:44
LOL we must change for promod...its out lawst chance , that game must win fame , and servers hoster should now launch servers for csp ... developer are doing a big effort to save 1.6 style
2012-07-16 18:28:45
I agree with everything except the maps, i think that more realistic maps are better, BUT not like css or csgo, where there are lot of trash and small things... something in the middle of the two extremes
2012-07-16 19:40:28
+1 strafing & bhoping, dont like the rest.
2012-07-16 19:51:23
nobody is forcing you ....

you can still play 1.6 for the next view years!! but don't expect that there will be tournaments that will support 1.6!

Thats Life ... new game ... new opportunities ... new community ... i like it!
1.6 got fucking boring ..... IT"S TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!
2012-07-16 20:09:45
if only the maps were made with lesser props.... we can rate the game better..... for some reason i strongly believe the props are ruining the game giving us a confusion between the texture of the maps and the player models themselves.... needs more contrast between colours....
2012-07-16 20:12:51
Thanks for your opinion.
2012-07-17 12:04:16
agree,those maps with many things in it... your eyes just dont focus on the game,it is hard to focus,it is much better when the map is more open but not too much... they just made the maps look more like COD/BF maps... where they got alot of stuff in it.... also bunny hop,some people say it should be without it becuase you cant do it in real life blablabla,but it is just a game... i see bunnyhop as the fun part of the game. (for sure there are moments if you do the right strafe you can win the 1v1 situation or 1v2 (overall you can win the round) if you remove it,it will be like cod/bf... if you follow the competitive scene of fps games... you can notice that the most popular competitive games are the ones where you are free. cod4 promod,quake,1.6 even cs:s before the main update...


sorry but the text wall but i hope you get the idea.

Post edited 2012-07-16 21:02:23
2012-07-16 21:02:03
+1
2012-07-17 06:12:49
Thanks for your opinion
2012-07-17 12:03:58
These fucking admins deleted my replies , I think that hltv.org is encouraging CS:GO too ... Nice
2012-07-16 23:53:24
You insulted another user, what did you expected? Oh and a little more respect for the people who try to keep the community sane and flame-free would be appreciated.
2012-07-17 00:01:24
Okay sir , understood.
2012-07-17 00:13:14
You guys have to stop with this, if you dont like the game, dont play, if you like, play, simple!

i dont like and ATM i will not play, but who knows its only beta, maybe if valve hold on the game on beta for one more year (its not gonna happen) it can turn in a better game...
2012-07-17 01:13:34
the issue is its releasing 21st next month..... do u believe its possible to do a lot of shit with hardly 34 days??
2012-07-17 21:34:02
ppl who design csgo..r more impressed by cod and bf .. thts why they concentrate on fancy things..
rather than the feel and movement ..which is the most important thing..which makes cs wt it is.....

i bet the designers of csgo have never played enough cs to know what the feel of cs is like
2012-07-17 01:30:20
"i bet the designers of csgo have never played enough cs to know what the feel of cs is like"


I'm sure about that. Otherwise CS:GO wouldn't be so terrible.
What is HPE anyway? The only game they developed before is a fucking tower game...

Post edited 2012-07-17 01:47:44
2012-07-17 01:43:19
Thanks for your opinion.
2012-07-17 12:05:28
+1 to the last bit...very true.
2012-07-17 21:34:55
i say no too, the time of shooters are over!
2012-07-17 01:44:16
In 1.6 graphics are simple, that's why I like it but in CS:GO, Source, Promod they are overdoing it with graphics, gameplay, everything.. Creating a totally different game. That's why it sucks.
2012-07-17 02:17:43
Not in Promod. Maps are clean and gameplay is awesome.

Post edited 2012-07-17 03:06:55
2012-07-17 03:06:37
Yes I do agree that CSP>Source>GO, but you are missing my point. :)
2012-07-17 04:02:25
Thanks for your opinion, but I think CSP developers want to do game with CS 1.6 physics and renew the graphics without changing important things in-game.
2012-07-17 12:19:54
the graphic is ok in cs:go for me but sound and movement are shity pple move like zombie haha
1.6 best ever but we must go forward:(
2012-07-17 02:49:03
You mad bro?
2012-07-17 03:04:27
I'm mad because all tournaments removing CS 1.6 because of this game called CS:GO, and they want me to watch this carcass.

They need to do it better than CS 1.6 not worse, which is right now in my opinion.
2012-07-17 12:14:22
I know man, haha! It was joke...

I myself am trying to host an Online Cup in the coming months for 1.6 :)
2012-07-17 13:46:58
:) so Good Luck.
2012-07-17 14:13:30
I love your idea micronn! Im on the same idea!
2012-07-17 03:05:49
i dont think you know what the word "forcing" means
2012-07-17 03:52:28
I know exactly what it mean.

I wanted to add a little spice in name of this blog post.
2012-07-17 12:11:19
CS:GO and crap in the mould of MW and BF make me sick :(
2012-07-17 03:52:58
I withe you i hat CS GO i dont find him nice to play
2012-07-17 08:09:58
I just LOL-ed badly "Valve forcing me to switch to CS:GO, but I say NO"
2012-07-17 11:53:36
I wanted to add a little spice in name of this blog post.
2012-07-17 12:11:23
spice inside topic ? w0w
2012-07-17 17:24:07
what i dont understand, 90% people of 1.6 players players are not playing this game on "professional level": Playing on major tournaments, playing for sponsored organisations, most us (including me) are playing online, maybe some lan event in own country, but like i said, most of us are playing on online events, and why do you think this online events will stop? there will always will be online cups, gathers, esl shits, and many other tournaments, so why you are worried about CS;GO?
2012-07-17 12:16:32
Thanks for your opinion.

From my point of view, if pro players will not be playing these online tournaments, then I will not be playing too.
2012-07-17 12:24:44
because the community will die..... dats the easiest way to put it....
2012-07-17 21:36:18
well, csgo means new tactics..there are new nades etc. we will see after edit beta

2012-07-17 12:28:11
Your eyes will be bleeding when you will be watching CS:GO streams, too much things only for 2 eyes :)
2012-07-17 12:48:33
yea xD
2012-07-17 15:43:42
CSGO IS NOOBY NOOOOOOBS :DDDDD XD
2012-07-17 12:32:37
Posting what is CS 1.6 on CS 1.6 website...
:genius:

Post edited 2012-07-17 13:05:55
2012-07-17 13:05:33
Posting what is not CS:GO on CS 1.6 website...
:genius:

:)
2012-07-17 13:17:38
dynamism
2012-07-17 13:19:26
Thats all? :)
2012-07-17 13:28:45
My problem with cs is that there just too much dynamism flying all over the place.
2012-08-18 15:07:02
valve create a new game, not a new counter strike..
2012-07-17 13:55:33
So why they called it Counter-Strike?!

It should be called only Global Offensive like Minh "Gooseman" Le called his game Tactical Intervention.
2012-07-17 14:19:22
Soooooooo fuckinnnnn truuee!!!
2012-07-17 14:36:25
go promod!!
2012-07-17 15:38:09
They need to speed up development of the next version :)
2012-07-17 15:45:48
i agree you made good opinions and i think it´s what the new cs:go need more moviment, more interactivity with the game.
A fluid game.
We dont need a lot of details but a good gameplay.
2012-07-17 18:52:25
There not forcing you, there forcing the pro scene.

If you're in it for the game you still just play 1.6
2012-07-17 18:58:15
When they're forcing the pro scene, therefore, me too, because I was playing in CS 1.6 cause pro players from ESC, fnatic, SK was playing this game too.
2012-08-17 17:23:24
CS:GO graphics are a combination of call of duty with source lol
2012-07-17 18:58:47
Valve's forcing me to go to CS GO, and I say no... No... No.
It has better graphics, but the gameplay is crap, it sucks... Sucks... Sucks.
CS 1.6 may be outdated, but my friends think its fine.
They tried to make me switch to CS GO and I wont download... Load... Load...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUmZp8pR1uc

Post edited 2012-07-17 21:58:34
2012-07-17 21:57:52
Thanks for your opinion :D
2012-07-23 12:23:08
For god sake. If you don't like it, don't play it.
2012-07-18 02:23:34
Current Players Peak Today Game

63,990 67,216 Dota 2
58,895 62,162 Team Fortress 2
48,619 52,732 Counter-Strike

SERIOUSLY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND VALVE........
2012-07-20 20:49:53
and this numbers are ... ?
2012-07-20 21:17:58
thnx
2012-07-22 18:45:10
What exactly you don't understand?
2012-07-26 01:39:19
Stupid Valve... Stupid CS:GO... Stupid new age games... FU all, CS 1.6 <3
2012-07-22 18:51:32
I don't switch either. I was open minded for the GO beta but I don't like it at all.
2012-08-17 17:32:36
Valve knows, that's for sure!!!!!
But you don't get it, do you?. They are expecting to attract as many players as they can, including console players. Come on.. this game is hopeless, it won't get much better, it will always be mediocre.
CS 1.6 competitive scene is dead. You can play as much as you want, but you won't see many tournaments. And let's face it, competition plays a big part in the evolution of a game.
2012-08-18 15:02:13
Yeah :/
2012-08-18 15:09:14
Nobody is forcing you to do anything. If you don't want to play cs:go just dont play it.
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Dynamism.
2012-08-18 15:09:10
No tournaments for CS 1.6.
CS 1.6 pro players switching to CS:GO.
Probably in some time they turn off CS 1.6 from Steam.

In a certain sense it's forcing to switch to their new game.

And what's wrong with dynamism, bad word? :)
2012-08-18 15:16:29
I would use dynamics instead..
2012-08-18 16:12:24
Ok, I corrected all bad words.

dynamism - whole game physics
dynamics - something in-game like movement, strafe etc.
2012-08-18 16:19:55
Tournament organizers choose which games are played in tournaments, not Valve.

I don't think the guys in Valve have held a gun on cs 1.6 pro's heads and forced them to swich to cs:go.

And Valve will not make cs 1.6 unavailable on Steam. Customers who had bought cs 1.6, have paid for a game and have to be able to play it.

Dynamism is not a word.
2012-08-18 16:46:01
Ok, so what word should I use?

In Poland we have this word.
2012-08-18 16:57:56

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