IHL-WORLD
2012-08-06 22:46
Hello it past so long time after my last blog , i have kind a reason to write new.
Like title says it will be about the ihl gathers special for int3.
Like you know ihl is popunar gather network nowdays but on int3 have everything but not gathers.

If one map in normal game takes 30-50 minutes here 20 minutes is warmup
one map can be played more then 1 hour if there is no replacements , if have replacements it can take to 90 minutes and maybe more?!
Im typing this blog not to blame admins on ihl but they do nothing to fix this sh*t.
Like i said , there have everything, you can see players who play first 5on5 , players who don't know/talk english , players who have ping as hell but they continue to play and ask for replace every single game and many more types , imo lot of them are kinda retarded but they don't want to accept suggestions of some better.

I would like to show to one of the player types how to check their ping without joining the server and putting it in favourites.
Few stepst just follow it.
1.Start > run > type cmd > in cmd type "ping ip" press enter.
ip=numbers
***NOTE*** ONLY IP WITHOUT : AND PORT !!!

List of all IHL CS 1.6 Servers :
http://servers.ihl-world.com/index.php?site=cs

For example on picture is taken server #3

http://prntscr.com/dc6uh

The numbers next to the time are your ms on that ip. (time=XXms xx=numbers )
So in our situation time is 38 so i got 38 ping on server 3.

I hope this will be useful for many of you.

NOTICE!
If you have more then 60 ms on this checking don't even join the irc channel , you can't play with more then 60 ms , 60 is too much but is acceptable.
Now im asking the stuff , why they allow players who have more then 60 ms on the servers?
You guys don't get nothing if you have +100 players with 80 ping , you will losse the guys who play with <60 and try to get some fun (?!).

Suggestion 1, about the giving points , it's no sens to give points on win/losse. Because type of game is 5on5 not 1on1 you are playing with 4 more guys . Maybe 1 of that 5 guys have 20+ frags and play well all the time but his mates can't hit a duck and he is lossing because of them.

Suggestion 2, Put HLTV on matches , you have 20+ people in your stuff.
Someone can watch that HLTVs and notice what's wrong/bad , improve it!

Suggestion 3, Teamspeak , please do something concrete like when 10 people on mirc get .sign "teach" bot to give them ip and ts room and if can personal password for the teamspeak room because have some "nerds" who join in ts room and do troubles or ghosting (?!) .

Suggestion 4, Ban system , improve it! troublemakers need to be banned on long time not 1 day or 1 week ban him for 3 months to get rest and rehabilitate.

Suggestion 5 , Lot of players aren't playing with their real nicks in-game , some of them are with other nick on irc other on team speak other ingame who the fu*k is he i look in them like a 3 diffrent guys.

Suggestion 6, Atm everyone can make a gather and play , my suggestion disable that! Allow to create games only players who deserve that , who know how servers and commands are working and how to fix some problem if it's happend.

This is all what i get for now , it will have more for sure but for now enought wanna see what YOU think and comment it.

Like i said im not here to insult someone , i just want to do things better.
Hopeful i have enought good english to understand what i want to say.
Cheers,
beyo.
by: =R
#1
True stuff mate +1
2012-08-06 22:54:22
so you play on ihl3 right...Why to forbid players with 60 ping, it's their problem not yours...
2012-08-06 23:04:25
you really get a higher ms when someone on your team got higher ms
2012-08-07 00:01:05
it is, the player with 60+ping cant play 100% like he normal can, that can cost them the game.
2012-08-07 00:29:33
read better 60+.why?
Because it isn't normal , too much delay its not normal , try to understand it .Hes movement delay...
Really dunno how better to explain you ..
2012-08-07 00:55:26
if server is good it's playable cmon... 70 + is problem...
2012-08-07 00:56:11
im not sure how much dealy have , i think it's around 1ms=0.001sec for this game that is too much + if you have on mind that inets with 100 ping will have choke/loss too , then is a problem.

And please tell me how much ping you have on ihl servers and did will you play if you have 60+ ping?
2012-08-07 01:02:27
i have 30 ~ 35 and yes i would play without problem like i'm playing on brutal.csdm with 60~65 ping without problem, if serv is good, so is your connection, yes you will have a lag but you can handle it without prob (playable)
2012-08-07 01:34:33
If someone have 60+ ping there is 2 options :
a) too far from server
b) bad internet

If is too far ping is for sure high and if is in combination with b there is no point to play with that stuff.

If connection is bad even you have 40 ping you will have choke/loss so again no point to play.

If you are not too far from the server and if you have good connection then we are looking for good server.
You are saing that is playable , yes it is but players with less ping have advantage that is for sure.
2012-08-07 02:04:48
I got a feeling that you are mad cuz some players with 60 + ping are owning you.Am I right ?
2012-08-07 01:37:27
No ,you are not.If you have feelings and if you feeling lucky play lottery...
It's because on ihl i know only one or two players who have high ping (120) but he is playing better then others with lower ping i really don't know how but guy is playing well.
It's about if i have mates with 60+ and enemy have <60 they have average ping 30-40 we have 70-80 maybe for you it's nothing but it's too much for this type of game ( disorganized ,playing first time together).
2012-08-07 02:09:41
by: izsha
#3
pings: we are ihl world and not ihl max100ping.
when we do more checks at the beginning the waiting period in help increase more than now it is.

s1: fixed by our new bot which is coming in the next weeks

s2: give us money for our work than we will look at every game in our freetime.

s3: fixed by new bot i guess.

s4: depends on your reports. the penalty rises with the number of offenses.

s5: depends on your reports...

s6: make no sense because its gather! teach the guys who dont know the commands. we cannot do more than write a manual. when nobody read this than we cant do anything.


i think u forget we do this all stuff in our freetime so when u want to improve our system do an applycation for admin or help us out by teaching guys who dont know how ihl works.

the most of the problems get solved when u report players.

sry for bad english but I'm tired :D
2012-08-06 23:55:51
s1 : good!
s2 : why to invest my money on your project?
you own it , invest in it.
s3 : good!
s4 : some people dunno how to report or they just don't care -.-
s5 : i report what i can im not policeman to report 24/4 for nothing.
s6 : give me money for my work then i will look to help to all players. ( sarcasm on your s2 )

If you want me to teach other players you need to do something for me too aswell, im not black sheep.Why to waste my time ?
If i have 10 reports only 2 are confirmed.
2012-08-07 00:51:28
Do you get it that his is a community project and every one put like 1000hours into it without getting anything. So why should our admins quit their work and be 24/7 an admin?

We can be glad that we have so much people who want to help this project, because we are still a community project where everyone pitches in as much as he can.
2012-08-07 00:58:12
Like i said few times before , i didin't insult no one . If i hate this project i will chill and look behind scenes i wrote a blog where i place my dissatisfaction . Also i said "Like i said im not here to insult someone , i just want to do things better."
If you think that i can help to do things better , im open to cooperate with you.
2012-08-07 01:12:42
We are very open to criticism and it's great if people have some good ideas but you can't say things like:

"Suggestion 2, Put HLTV on matches , you have 20+ people in your stuff.
Someone can watch that HLTVs and notice what's wrong/bad , improve it!"

And when i am explaining to you why such things aren't possible without any money then it's not because i am mad or something!
2012-08-07 01:19:31
I typed that because gathers are not gathers it takes too long ...
Ofc im not expert maybe that mine idea is not good but don't look everything in money.Did i earn something with this my blog?-No.Maybe more troubles nothing more.
Maybe you can made bot who will wait 5 minutes maximum for all players to join server who don't join server after 5 minutes auto-replace or something :)
2012-08-07 01:30:11
hate when u admins allways gonna say

"give us money for our work than we will look at every game in our freetime"

Dont start it up then, if u dont have time to put in it.
2012-08-07 01:20:08
i wanted to say the same but it was too much direct
2012-08-07 01:31:55
You do a great job :)
2012-08-07 23:30:20
by: Puki
#4
I reported 2 guys that they not speak english and they still not get banned.
2012-08-06 23:59:06
by: izsha
#6
where did u report them? help or ticket?
2012-08-07 00:02:04
by: Puki
#7
http://ihl-world.com/support
2012-08-07 00:03:47
by: izsha
#8
nobody worked on it yet. i will do it now
2012-08-07 00:07:28
by: Puki
#36
Thanks :)
2012-08-07 02:35:43
60ms is good lolo :>
80+ no ...
2012-08-07 00:11:26
if is good why "stupid" people organize lans ? they play on 3-5ms at lan . why they don't simply play on higher ping ? what less , that good.
Over 60 is raping,belive me.
2012-08-07 00:57:23
btw no one says thanks about the tutorial , i bet 90 % of you didn't know this till now .
Some one still don't know how to do that even they read the steps . I'm pretty sure :)
2012-08-07 01:13:59
Attention whore spotted, "I wrote something I discovered recently and I want you to thank me for sharing it with you"...

btw. I am pretty sure most of the people here know how to use command prompt to check ping, trace route, configure ip etc. I personally use mirc script to check ping on given ip directly from mirc. Pretty useful.

Also your blog is stupid. IHL.int2 and IHL.int3 are open gathers, for everyone to join. If you want to play with good players then win some tournaments, get known and go play on #pzeliten, #de_nuke or #ihl.int

Post edited 2012-08-07 09:30:32
2012-08-07 09:21:17
Can you see some other who comment on this ?
I'm still sure that this option is unknown for 90% of the regular players :)
2012-08-07 15:53:45
yeah ofc
http://tinyurl.com/ping-T
even us on Africa we know that
2012-08-07 23:49:01
what is that #de_nuke about? only top players?
2012-08-07 23:35:51
Maybe you should respond to your applications for coders a little bit more seriously - oh well - found something to do in my off time anyway now :P
2012-08-07 01:22:56
Stopped playing on IHL because the admins have no guidelines and there is still no point awards for individual play.

I'm sure it's better in ihl1 but but 2 and 3 suck :)
2012-08-07 01:24:33
We have guidelines and you would know that if you had read the rules.

And the second bot will have a individual factor but people always forget that it's a TEAMGAME. So especially then it's important how you act as team. If you are always last man standing and getting 3 kills then you have maybe 20 frags but your team will still lose. So a good player will try to lead his team as good as possible and if they dont want to listen, then you just try to go 1st and make the entry frags.
2012-08-07 01:30:05
No, you have no guidelines. Your admins make different decisions on same or similar situations all the time.

I don't know how many games I played 4on5 and lost points on. Then when suddenly I "get" to play 5on4 the match is cancelled. I don't want to play either 5on4 or 4on5 but losing points on it SUCKS.

There are no challanges until 50 games are played which means my team is completely random. It's all about luck. Even if I play well it's, like you said, a team game.



2012-08-07 01:36:11
+1. or games where you have some moron team killing EVERY round and you have proof of the team killing but you still lose points for it..
2012-08-07 02:14:38
I know you like a gather player so long , you know the situation the best as can.You have right i agree with you.
2012-08-07 02:23:01
Problem is that you can list it on fingers players who are enought good to play like or act like a team in ihl gathers.
And in your secound option if someone try to get last for entry frags you will be insulted on teamspeak why you do that even your mates can't hit a cow..
2012-08-07 02:19:54
team game with the team have 100 75 84 in ping? its more a solo game for me.
2012-08-07 02:47:48
thats why we should start hltvglobalmix up!
2012-08-07 03:24:09
so can i play with ping 58>60?
2012-08-07 02:02:52
Someone didn't get the point ?
Even proffesional player can't do his maximum if he has high ping . For me >60 is too much , please if someone who feel professinal read this tell us will you play on some server where you will have 60+?
imo not only pros , people who want good basic game want to play with ping less then 50 :)
Why? -Because on higher ping you can't show what you really know :)
2012-08-07 02:14:58
for me i can
my all life playing with ping -90
and now my ping is 50>60
i can really play with out any problems
2012-08-07 03:34:45
For you.But can i ask you who are you?
Have you played maybe one lan tournamet?
It's ok to comment but place more evicences to confirm your theory.
2012-08-07 04:19:16
dude wtf is with you
i asked from me not for the pros if they can play with ping 50
i asked if i'm allowed to play with that ping with out being banned
being in the top game is my problem sunshine
-_-
and yes i played lan
2012-08-07 04:36:52
by: xaBu
#38
trust beyo or ill rape u guys
2012-08-07 02:49:47
if IHL uses this "pieces of advice", IHL will be dead just like hltvglobalmix.
About the ping, I played my whole life with 75 ping and its not annoying at all, i can do my best that way. ofc it will look harder for those who are usually on 30. Just like swedish players, they dont want to play on higher ping than 15.. oh and the method of eliminating higher pings is not practical at all, tell me, how can u do it? will u add high ping kicker? so that a player gets kicked and you need to replace? ur thinking of the results rather than the methods
2012-08-07 04:22:02
You africans have so much to explain about the game and stuff.How many tournaments have been organized in Africa till today?
a) 0
b) 1
c) almost 1?
How long you play the game?
I understand and respect your wish to play , but you can made some stuff smilar like this and play on it.
imo you are badly taking some places here ...
2012-08-07 04:34:48
north africa is not like the rest my friend, at some lan we have a tournament every two weeks. we have also a very respectable tournament every year with a large number of pcs and sponsors, the cs scene was born here around 06-07.
believe it or not, the distance from macedonia to germany is not very far from tunisia to germany, but its all bout ISPs here. http://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from/Tunisi.. and http://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from/Macedo..
ive played a lot of IHL gathers and never gave a disadvantge to my team, in fact i was calling the most and it really worked well (considering im not good at fragging)

Post edited 2012-08-07 04:43:43
2012-08-07 04:41:07
sorry till few days i didn't know that Africa have cs player with steam , seriously.
I didn't want to causes a lowering but you said too much.
btw i never heard about tournament in Africa too.
So i don't see any big or respectable tournament like you said.
I want more quality on the game i don't care are you from Africa or Australia it's about they quality ( better ping = better requirements for playing )
2012-08-07 04:50:10
this is an international gather commuinty, it has both its advantages and drawbacks, if u want to play with low pings, im pretty sure balkan countries have a lot of gather systems. Anyhow, im just trying to say that everyone is free to play in a public community, correct me if im mistaken
2012-08-07 04:57:05
http://tinyurl.com/UGT2010
see the sponsors for your self
and
http://tinyurl.com/cyvxd6z
where is your country man ?


Post edited 2012-08-07 06:22:51
2012-08-07 06:15:51
1.http://www.hltv.org/news/8857-fnatic-win-gamegune-.. ENTITY 9-12
2.http://www.hltv.org/news/8598-entity-wins-defuse-o.. ENTITY 1st
3.http://www.hltv.org/news/8547-virtuspro-beat-hsbg-.. ENTITY 5-8
4.http://www.hltv.org/news/8497-becsl-ii-reaches-pla.. ENTITY Top 16
5.http://www.hltv.org/news/8217-entity-wins-gsgigatr.. ENTITY 1st
6.http://www.hltv.org/news/7923-esc-gaming-win-wcg-2.. Top 16
7.http://www.hltv.org/news/7538-groups-announced-for.. 16-32 not sure.
8.http://www.hltv.org/news/2162-entity-victorious-at..

MY COUNTRY HAVE CS HISTORY U CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT PLEASE DON'T TALK TO ME ANYMORE.
IM PRETTY SURE THAT YOUR BEST TEAM CAN'T GET MORE THEN 8 ROUNDS PER MAP.S T F U
2012-08-07 17:07:38
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=28&comments=1&..
watch and learn
2012-08-07 17:13:26
nuff said. +1
2012-08-07 22:39:45
north africa probably have an older cs scene than yours, not offending you but it is a fact, due to the unstable conditions in my country we've been late to the cs scene a bit, and if things went as it is planned, you will see some of our teams joining international events, whether the game will be 1.6 or cs:go.

Post edited 2012-08-07 22:45:16
2012-08-07 22:44:05
read up one guy called sebbz post something really good.He has right.It's question on time when will I stop playing this gathers ( with this rules and organisation).You don't have mistake but tell me if you have that cs scene and like you said sponsors and lot of pc's for lan , why some sponsor don't invest in some community to make you one simple gather?
Because here in my country have 2 existing teams and they badly can't find some good sponsor to invest in them.
That what you talk is no sens but anyway .. i can't do nothing here to block you to play on ihl,that's true.
2012-08-07 05:07:39
If u start kickin all THE people with &#65533; higher ping then 60 u have 10people playin in IHL gathers, its still about fun.. If u want to play for stats thats your problem u can never win every single game just deal with it that not all people are good.
I understand your frustration about the ping but unfortunately there is no other option.
Gathers are fine for me even tho some people cant speak proper english or not at all.
If evryone thinks like this and whines for &#65533; ping.
Bye IHL gather, bye activity 1.6 :-)

Post edited 2012-08-07 07:40:26
2012-08-07 07:30:15
+1
2012-08-07 11:47:37
read my mind
2012-08-07 16:03:01
2, 4, 6 are stupid ideas, Also About the ping. Balkan Players, Germanian Players, Danmark Players, Sweeden Players, Austrian Players and some few others... Have Good Pings on German Servers like are ihl's under 60 ping. Danmarks Have they'r own gather, Sweeds have playnation for other i dunno so how mutch players you will have? 60ping is playable more than 80-90 is not. Yeah i played with some guys from Usa with 150 ping its not the deal that hes ping is high but you cant kill him that is the problem.
2012-08-07 10:02:20
At the end if you don't like it , don't play it.Adapt or fail....
2012-08-07 11:48:11
you are probably mad because players that have like 70-80 ping owns you. Ping doesn't matter if the servers are good. I have played on some game-hosting servers from sweden and i had like 80-85ms and still was playable.So stop whining and start to adapt like adv BBBW said.
2012-08-07 12:08:35
When I play on the IHL / German servers I got anything between 40-80 ping... Yes, it's actually spread out that much, but it's usually around 50-60-70. But that's just because I play on a USB port right now, so other Norwegians usually have 25-40 ping ;)
2012-08-07 15:20:11
Here have too much smartasses ...
I really wanted to try to explain you but there is no point to losse time on typing.
Just chill and continue playing like this my blog never existed.
Thank you for your comments.
2012-08-07 15:52:42
but your the smartes :)
2012-08-07 21:39:43
+1337
2012-08-07 23:52:39
interesting, i usually win my matches vs eu with ping 80 ~ 120 , i guess some ppl dont like getting owned by ppl with higher ping ;)
2012-08-07 22:39:14
yeah +1
2012-08-07 23:51:34

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