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CSPromod to ESEA? show ur support for it!
2012-08-07 00:52
Hey guys!
You've probably heard the news of ESEA returning to Europe! Great, I've always had a feeling that their community and client is awesome, so i'm really excited.
When I saw that lurppis was involved I got even more excited because I got an idea. Lurppis is a big CSP-supporter, and in the ESEA announcement on their website it says;
"With Europe, we're looking to build on that, continue our support for _whichever version of CS you want to play_, and to keep that choice yours alone -- not whatever game various large tournaments and organizations decide they want to push."
I want to play CSPromod. Do you? Carmac have stated that they pick up every game that has a big following and a lot of players, no matter if the game is called CSP or CS:GO. ESEA picking up CSP would probably lead to a lot of players and watchers, and an invitational could work as a "testtournament" for CSP, just like CS:GO will get one.
And who knows, if CSP brings in big viewernumbers and a lot of players on ESEA it might even lead to IEM picking up it in the future?
CSP seems perfect for ESEA, international CSP-tournaments with the built in client predictionsystem would be SICK, just like the old days (SK vs 3D) but easier accessable with streams and a lot of nice extra features would lead to a great future with an international community.
So guys, do you want to see ESEA pick up CSP? Post your thoughts here and if we're lucky ESEA and lurppis might consider it!
EDIT::
So apparently, this is the situation according to lpkane from ESEA:
ESEA wanted to have CSP. The CSP owner expresses interest in creating his own premiumservice and ingame item shop instead, which would directly compete with ESEA. Therefore, the ESEA won't take in CSP. ESEA owner says that if he can create a partnership with CSP where ESEA's interests are protected, and if they would be able to use their programmin skills to speed up development they would support CSP.
This is LPKANE'S SIDE OF THINGS, maybe it's not true, maybe Valve have been their and payed $ to make him lie about it (highly doubt it tho).
In my opinion, CSP NEEDS ESEA to be able to succeed. Carmac says the game has to be global, NA have monopoly on the NA-scene and it'll probably succeed in EU aswell. Without ESEA won't be global.
And these competitive features and the itemshop (hats or what?!) won't be out in time, it is doomed since a long time then.
If the CSP owners or anyone with some info on CSP-teams side of things could comment on this I'd be very happy, I'd like to hear if all of this is true and what their stance on it is.
You've probably heard the news of ESEA returning to Europe! Great, I've always had a feeling that their community and client is awesome, so i'm really excited.
When I saw that lurppis was involved I got even more excited because I got an idea. Lurppis is a big CSP-supporter, and in the ESEA announcement on their website it says;
"With Europe, we're looking to build on that, continue our support for _whichever version of CS you want to play_, and to keep that choice yours alone -- not whatever game various large tournaments and organizations decide they want to push."
I want to play CSPromod. Do you? Carmac have stated that they pick up every game that has a big following and a lot of players, no matter if the game is called CSP or CS:GO. ESEA picking up CSP would probably lead to a lot of players and watchers, and an invitational could work as a "testtournament" for CSP, just like CS:GO will get one.
And who knows, if CSP brings in big viewernumbers and a lot of players on ESEA it might even lead to IEM picking up it in the future?
CSP seems perfect for ESEA, international CSP-tournaments with the built in client predictionsystem would be SICK, just like the old days (SK vs 3D) but easier accessable with streams and a lot of nice extra features would lead to a great future with an international community.
So guys, do you want to see ESEA pick up CSP? Post your thoughts here and if we're lucky ESEA and lurppis might consider it!
EDIT::
So apparently, this is the situation according to lpkane from ESEA:
ESEA wanted to have CSP. The CSP owner expresses interest in creating his own premiumservice and ingame item shop instead, which would directly compete with ESEA. Therefore, the ESEA won't take in CSP. ESEA owner says that if he can create a partnership with CSP where ESEA's interests are protected, and if they would be able to use their programmin skills to speed up development they would support CSP.
This is LPKANE'S SIDE OF THINGS, maybe it's not true, maybe Valve have been their and payed $ to make him lie about it (highly doubt it tho).
In my opinion, CSP NEEDS ESEA to be able to succeed. Carmac says the game has to be global, NA have monopoly on the NA-scene and it'll probably succeed in EU aswell. Without ESEA won't be global.
And these competitive features and the itemshop (hats or what?!) won't be out in time, it is doomed since a long time then.
If the CSP owners or anyone with some info on CSP-teams side of things could comment on this I'd be very happy, I'd like to hear if all of this is true and what their stance on it is.
CSPromod > CS:GO
Post edited 2012-08-07 00:54:24
Post edited 2012-08-07 00:54:24
CSPromod FUTURE!!!!
CS:1.6 > CSP
CS:S > CS:GO
CS:1.6 > CSP
CS:S > CS:GO
do you mean 1.6 better then CSP, and CS:S better then CS:GO or do you mean that CSP is for the 1.6 community and CS:Go for the CS:S community? :P
CSP is for both 1.6 and source community
CS 1.6 > ALL
CSP > CSS
CSS > CS:GO
Super Mario Bros > CS:GO
CSP > CSS
CSS > CS:GO
Super Mario Bros > CS:GO
I think (my own opinion)
CSP 1.09 > CS 1.6
because of the client prediction, and because the new graphics make it feel "refreshing", which makes it funnier to play for me.
CSP 1.09 > CS 1.6
because of the client prediction, and because the new graphics make it feel "refreshing", which makes it funnier to play for me.
what a joke.
as a matter of fact my friend u are totally right instead of being conservative you have an open mind for the future and understand how a game should be in order to become competitive for the many players that need to step-up and welcome the new generations so its kinda sad there is so few people out there that just want to follow the stream and don't even care about facts...
CSPROMOD TO ESEA!
Go for it. In the US, ESEA wont add CSP anymore. They tried once but it failed (but that was literally like 2 years ago when the game was pretty awful). Now a bunch of people love it but ESEA sees csgo to be a better opportunity. Would LOVE to see CSP get big here, and maybe itll influence it in the US and help it take off. Or at the very least sustain and be 100% viable for servers in league play and pugs etc.
So everyone who wants to play CSP should hop on board for this, immediately.
So everyone who wants to play CSP should hop on board for this, immediately.
Lurppis onboard and the statement
"continue our support for _whichever version of CS you want to play_, and to keep that choice yours alone -- not whatever game various large tournaments and organizations decide they want to push"
makes me think it is doable if we show our support for it :-) As you said, when they had CSP it was a bad game :b
"continue our support for _whichever version of CS you want to play_, and to keep that choice yours alone -- not whatever game various large tournaments and organizations decide they want to push"
makes me think it is doable if we show our support for it :-) As you said, when they had CSP it was a bad game :b
CSP should be the future, if you have not played it yet, DO IT! Its PERFECT! It's 1.6 with better graphics, but the recoil, movement, feeling, are just like in 1.6, for real!
CSP on ESEA?
hahahahhaha
hahahahhaha
"With Europe, we're looking to build on that, continue our support for _whichever version of CS you want to play_, and to keep that choice yours alone -- not whatever game various large tournaments and organizations decide they want to push."
1.5 --> 1.6 ---> CSP
When they fix netcode it will stand a chance. This way, I really doubt it.
they should try to release the 1.1 soon and after that people would start to make conclusions about which game to support
1.09 is ready for competitive scene and after that 1.1 not gonna take much longer. They're already working on 1.1 stuffs for a long time.
That shit would be great ! Gogogo ESEA !
agie sick CSPromod awp-action to ESEA. GOGO! <3
lpkane (the half owner of ESEA) just said there wont be CSP support
#1 we will not be supporting csp, we'll be supporting 1.6, css, and csgo _initially_
never said it couldn't happen. and if they completely screw CSP, then this quote
"With Europe, we're looking to build on that, continue our support for _whichever version of CS you want to play_, and to keep that choice yours alone -- not whatever game various large tournaments and organizations decide they want to push."
proves they're just full of shit and lies to make 1.6 fanatics nuthug ESEA.
Post edited 2012-08-07 01:27:30
never said it couldn't happen. and if they completely screw CSP, then this quote
"With Europe, we're looking to build on that, continue our support for _whichever version of CS you want to play_, and to keep that choice yours alone -- not whatever game various large tournaments and organizations decide they want to push."
proves they're just full of shit and lies to make 1.6 fanatics nuthug ESEA.
Post edited 2012-08-07 01:27:30
Then fuck off ESEA.
CS's player number is decreasing because of the game itself (young kids don't pick it up anymore).
ESEA may revitalize the scene for a short time (like the 4PL and the IHL did), but this effect won't last long. CS needs a worthy successor (in terms of esport) and only CSP got the potential to become it.
CSP also offers a lot of opportunities. Like an ingame-client. Everyone who will play CSP will be connected with ESEA/ESL and live-streams could be integrated in the game menu...
That was the biggest problem of CS since ever: People needed like 2 years of CS before they came in contact with esports. A huge number of players only knew playing on public servers and never made it into esports.
Post edited 2012-08-07 01:46:14
CS's player number is decreasing because of the game itself (young kids don't pick it up anymore).
ESEA may revitalize the scene for a short time (like the 4PL and the IHL did), but this effect won't last long. CS needs a worthy successor (in terms of esport) and only CSP got the potential to become it.
CSP also offers a lot of opportunities. Like an ingame-client. Everyone who will play CSP will be connected with ESEA/ESL and live-streams could be integrated in the game menu...
That was the biggest problem of CS since ever: People needed like 2 years of CS before they came in contact with esports. A huge number of players only knew playing on public servers and never made it into esports.
Post edited 2012-08-07 01:46:14
agreed!
+1
damn dude, you know your shit, and it sounds so much like what I think that it's creepy :P
Also what we need badly for CSP is HLTV with a working auto-director so viewers always see the best actions, and don't depend on the ability of the streamer to predict whats gonna happen. :)
damn dude, you know your shit, and it sounds so much like what I think that it's creepy :P
Also what we need badly for CSP is HLTV with a working auto-director so viewers always see the best actions, and don't depend on the ability of the streamer to predict whats gonna happen. :)
csp is really great, its very easy to adapt for 1.6 to csp. csp is the future. way better than cs:go and it could be better than 1.6..
csp to esea
cs:go to garbage
Post edited 2012-08-07 01:26:10
csp to esea
cs:go to garbage
Post edited 2012-08-07 01:26:10
+1
btw for the guys who say that the game won't be supported cause it took too many years in developing...you can't compare csp from 2 years ago with these new versions (1.08 and the new 1.09 which will be tweaked even better and everythings gonna change) , so the support should be at its best in these moments when the game needs it more then ever...the effort of the student developers working to make this game complete shouldn't be in vain!
Go CSP!
Go CSP!
Promod all the way!
Could anyone with a ESEA premium account post a forum thread over there with this text please:
http://pastebin.com/zALmBUJj
I tried myself but apparently I needed premium to be able to post a thread. Could a nice american fella help me out? :)
http://pastebin.com/zALmBUJj
I tried myself but apparently I needed premium to be able to post a thread. Could a nice american fella help me out? :)
CSP TO ESEA FTW!
NiP vs x3 with heaton potti ksharp etc, (? :D
UPDATE;
I posted this on ESEA:
#146 well, we want to see CSP :-)
http://www.hltv.org/blog/5793-cspromod-to-esea-sho..
Great line for sure, but can you back it up with actions or is it empty words?
lpkane, esea owner answered:
#148 i'll break it down very simply for you: i'm not supporting a game that wants to put me out of business
i'm also not supporting a game that gets the community's hopes up, releases something, then waits 8-10 months between revisions and loses any momentum it's gained
we're supporting valve games and letting people pick what they want to play, beyond that i have no desire to touch csp.
I answered:
"i'm not supporting a game that wants to put me out of business"
Explain please.
"i'm also not supporting a game that gets the community's hopes up, releases something, then waits 8-10 months between revisions and loses any momentum it's gained"
You mean that you don't want to support a game where the developer works for free, which made them unable to work so much on it, but finally came up with a competition ready version after a lot of blood, sweat and tears, only to please the very stubborn and ungreatful CS 1.6 community?
Sure, they're slow, but there is reasons for it and the only reason they work on the game is because of their love for the game and the scene.
"we're supporting valve games and letting people pick what they want to play, beyond that i have no desire to touch csp"
well, you should've put that in your statement then, because the way it sounded gave a lot of people hopes, but apparently it was just bullshit.
sorry if im a bit rude, but I think this is very shitty done by the ESEA and you should probably consider changing that statement because apparently it was just empty words.
So guys, apparently the statement was pure bullshit to give us false hopes and give ESEA some PR.
Post edited 2012-08-07 02:11:26
I posted this on ESEA:
#146 well, we want to see CSP :-)
http://www.hltv.org/blog/5793-cspromod-to-esea-sho..
Great line for sure, but can you back it up with actions or is it empty words?
lpkane, esea owner answered:
#148 i'll break it down very simply for you: i'm not supporting a game that wants to put me out of business
i'm also not supporting a game that gets the community's hopes up, releases something, then waits 8-10 months between revisions and loses any momentum it's gained
we're supporting valve games and letting people pick what they want to play, beyond that i have no desire to touch csp.
I answered:
"i'm not supporting a game that wants to put me out of business"
Explain please.
"i'm also not supporting a game that gets the community's hopes up, releases something, then waits 8-10 months between revisions and loses any momentum it's gained"
You mean that you don't want to support a game where the developer works for free, which made them unable to work so much on it, but finally came up with a competition ready version after a lot of blood, sweat and tears, only to please the very stubborn and ungreatful CS 1.6 community?
Sure, they're slow, but there is reasons for it and the only reason they work on the game is because of their love for the game and the scene.
"we're supporting valve games and letting people pick what they want to play, beyond that i have no desire to touch csp"
well, you should've put that in your statement then, because the way it sounded gave a lot of people hopes, but apparently it was just bullshit.
sorry if im a bit rude, but I think this is very shitty done by the ESEA and you should probably consider changing that statement because apparently it was just empty words.
So guys, apparently the statement was pure bullshit to give us false hopes and give ESEA some PR.
Post edited 2012-08-07 02:11:26
ESEA are going to follow Valve like good little sheeps , cant wait till Valve tell them to jump off a window ...
Basically CSP wants to do their own version of leagues, which would effectively put leagues like ESEA & CEVO out of buisness, that is why.
It's not "bullshit", it's just the fact that CSP Dev's originally wanted to control the leagues and ladders that would be organised for themselves.
It's not "bullshit", it's just the fact that CSP Dev's originally wanted to control the leagues and ladders that would be organised for themselves.
CSP2SLOW
I really like CSP, but CS:GO is one step ahead (they have the money). And it looks like ESL is supporting CS:GO, you know the GO4CS:GO-cups with alot of $$$.
If IEM pickup CS:GO, then it's over for CSP.
I really like CSP, but CS:GO is one step ahead (they have the money). And it looks like ESL is supporting CS:GO, you know the GO4CS:GO-cups with alot of $$$.
If IEM pickup CS:GO, then it's over for CSP.
Nah. if nobody watches the games, ESL will drop it. Yesterday the GO4CS:GO-cup finale had 400 (!) viewers only.
Unless CS:GO really steps it up it's gonna have a bad time.
Unless CS:GO really steps it up it's gonna have a bad time.
400 viewers, bullshit. The stream I was watching had at least 2500 spectators. The stream scuked. So Valve will have to put a lot of work into something like hltv.
The GO4CS:GO-finale I watched at the 8th of august had 400 viewers. I think it was mTw vs decerto or something like that.
What a m...
This "great news" smells like a sneaky trick to feed us with CS:GO.
I heard Ipkane was in Seattle and there's some contract between Valve and ESEA.
Why blindly support Valve games? I mean this company NEVER EVER gave a fuck about CS as an esport titel. Four examples:
1. The head director of ESL's CS section once said in a german interview the ESL would have sent a report to Valve after every season. In those reports they explained where they got problems with Valve games in terms of esports (the thing that made CS big) but they NEVER got an answer.
2. The server browser in CS and CSS is bugged since years and Valve never showed any effort to fix it. That's not just a "small bug" that's a crucial thing in a multiplayer-only game.
3. The cheating problem: Look at how much money got wasted in the development of anti-cheat-software allthough that should be Valve's duty. This money could have been invested into tournaments.
4. We have to deal with a bugged HLTV since 10 years. Valve never cared about that. I remember this project where some organisation (the CPL?) offered to send their own programmers to Seattle to solve that problem. Valve refused this free help and never fixed the bugs.
Makes sense to only support games from such a company and to refuse supporting a game whose only purpose is to improve esports.
When it comes to CS Valve only shows interest in esports because esports is a nice way to get free publicity.
Normally I don't believe this "Valve paid tournament host X to drop game Y" but I'm so fucking sure ESEA is backed by Valve's money.
Fuck off Valve, fuck off ESEA.
And LULZ@puri. NC.
Post edited 2012-08-07 02:51:10
This "great news" smells like a sneaky trick to feed us with CS:GO.
I heard Ipkane was in Seattle and there's some contract between Valve and ESEA.
Why blindly support Valve games? I mean this company NEVER EVER gave a fuck about CS as an esport titel. Four examples:
1. The head director of ESL's CS section once said in a german interview the ESL would have sent a report to Valve after every season. In those reports they explained where they got problems with Valve games in terms of esports (the thing that made CS big) but they NEVER got an answer.
2. The server browser in CS and CSS is bugged since years and Valve never showed any effort to fix it. That's not just a "small bug" that's a crucial thing in a multiplayer-only game.
3. The cheating problem: Look at how much money got wasted in the development of anti-cheat-software allthough that should be Valve's duty. This money could have been invested into tournaments.
4. We have to deal with a bugged HLTV since 10 years. Valve never cared about that. I remember this project where some organisation (the CPL?) offered to send their own programmers to Seattle to solve that problem. Valve refused this free help and never fixed the bugs.
Makes sense to only support games from such a company and to refuse supporting a game whose only purpose is to improve esports.
When it comes to CS Valve only shows interest in esports because esports is a nice way to get free publicity.
Normally I don't believe this "Valve paid tournament host X to drop game Y" but I'm so fucking sure ESEA is backed by Valve's money.
Fuck off Valve, fuck off ESEA.
And LULZ@puri. NC.
Post edited 2012-08-07 02:51:10
''Normally I don't believe this "Valve paid tournament host X to drop game Y" but I'm so fucking sure ESEA is backed by Valve's money.''
obviously +1
obviously +1
they said WHICHEVER version you want so
i want 1.6 !!!!
fuck CSP fuck CSP fuck CSS when there is 1.6 but if there is not 1.6 then ill go for csp
i want 1.6 !!!!
fuck CSP fuck CSP fuck CSS when there is 1.6 but if there is not 1.6 then ill go for csp
#csp.eu for csp supporters and people who want to play gathers and mixes :D
Why not stick to 1.6?
Yo,
The fact that csp development is slow can't be excused by the "free time" thing. Sure, it can be explained, but not excused. If we want to make csp a realistic competitor for the cs title, we need more people helping out with development.
You're all a bunch of gamers: surely you know people with 3d skills, animation skills, texturing skills, coding skills etc. Just ask the people around you. If everyone who opened this thread did that, we'd probably end up with 4-5 new people added to the team, which would increse the pace by A LOT.
Help csp out if you want a good competitive cs in the future!
The fact that csp development is slow can't be excused by the "free time" thing. Sure, it can be explained, but not excused. If we want to make csp a realistic competitor for the cs title, we need more people helping out with development.
You're all a bunch of gamers: surely you know people with 3d skills, animation skills, texturing skills, coding skills etc. Just ask the people around you. If everyone who opened this thread did that, we'd probably end up with 4-5 new people added to the team, which would increse the pace by A LOT.
Help csp out if you want a good competitive cs in the future!
So apparently, this is the situation:
ESEA wanted to have CSP. The CSP owner expresses interest in creating his own premiumservice and ingame item shop instead, which would directly compete with ESEA. Therefore, the ESEA won't take in CSP. ESEA owner says that if he can create a partnership with CSP where ESEA's interests are protected, and if they would be able to use their programmin skills to speed up development they would support CSP.
This is LPKANE'S SIDE OF THINGS
, maybe it's not true, maybe Valve have been their and payed $$$ to make him lie about it (highly doubt it tho).
In my opinion, CSP NEEDS ESEA to be able to succeed. Carmac says the game has to be global, NA have monopoly on the NA-scene and it'll probably succeed in EU aswell. Without ESEA won't be global.
And these competitive features and the itemshop (hats or what?!) won't be out in time, it is doomed since a long time then.
If the CSP owners or anyone with some info on CSP-teams side of things could comment on this I'd be very happy, I'd like to hear if all of this is true and what their stance on it is.
Post edited 2012-08-07 03:38:47
ESEA wanted to have CSP. The CSP owner expresses interest in creating his own premiumservice and ingame item shop instead, which would directly compete with ESEA. Therefore, the ESEA won't take in CSP. ESEA owner says that if he can create a partnership with CSP where ESEA's interests are protected, and if they would be able to use their programmin skills to speed up development they would support CSP.
This is LPKANE'S SIDE OF THINGS
, maybe it's not true, maybe Valve have been their and payed $$$ to make him lie about it (highly doubt it tho).
In my opinion, CSP NEEDS ESEA to be able to succeed. Carmac says the game has to be global, NA have monopoly on the NA-scene and it'll probably succeed in EU aswell. Without ESEA won't be global.
And these competitive features and the itemshop (hats or what?!) won't be out in time, it is doomed since a long time then.
If the CSP owners or anyone with some info on CSP-teams side of things could comment on this I'd be very happy, I'd like to hear if all of this is true and what their stance on it is.
Post edited 2012-08-07 03:38:47
I am sure Lurppis will help with this also, since he's in charge of the EU(nordic only??)side of ESEA. So he'll probably do whatever he can to make CSP a reality in ESEA. Lets just hope for the best!
well it seems more like it's up to the CSP-team. ESEA could consider CSP if they could help with developing and protect their interests.
There are two reasons to refuse a partnership with ESEA:
1. Ipkane wants CSP to be an "ESEA only" game. If that's true then I actually understand the CSP-team's decision. Because that would be terrible since it would kill any kind of competition in the CS esport market. Organisations like the ESL (turtle entertainment) or the ESWC wouldn't be allowed to host CSP tournaments and the future of CSP would be all in the hands of 1 guy, Ipkane.
2. Alex Garfield acts like fucking Napoleon and believes he could create his own esport business with CSP. If that's true: Fuck off Garfield. Look at the past 6 years. If you really believe you would ever own the resources to build up such a business you must live in a dream-world.
I would really love to hear the actual CSP-team's opinion about that. If you really thought about this kind of business model then fuck off. I would feel betrayed.
Is Garfield even a part of CSP anymore? Why isn't his name on the member-list anymore?
The best thing would be: Develop some kind of tool that allows every esport organisation to run their pug-clients, tournament-streams and league-stuff from the ingame menu. If there's really a need to make money out of the game you could charge a fee from all leagues and tournament hosts who're using this tool. And by accepting the help of ESEA or the ESL in programming that tool you could award them some privileges (lower fee, better placement in the menu, ...).
Post edited 2012-08-07 04:45:34
1. Ipkane wants CSP to be an "ESEA only" game. If that's true then I actually understand the CSP-team's decision. Because that would be terrible since it would kill any kind of competition in the CS esport market. Organisations like the ESL (turtle entertainment) or the ESWC wouldn't be allowed to host CSP tournaments and the future of CSP would be all in the hands of 1 guy, Ipkane.
2. Alex Garfield acts like fucking Napoleon and believes he could create his own esport business with CSP. If that's true: Fuck off Garfield. Look at the past 6 years. If you really believe you would ever own the resources to build up such a business you must live in a dream-world.
I would really love to hear the actual CSP-team's opinion about that. If you really thought about this kind of business model then fuck off. I would feel betrayed.
Is Garfield even a part of CSP anymore? Why isn't his name on the member-list anymore?
The best thing would be: Develop some kind of tool that allows every esport organisation to run their pug-clients, tournament-streams and league-stuff from the ingame menu. If there's really a need to make money out of the game you could charge a fee from all leagues and tournament hosts who're using this tool. And by accepting the help of ESEA or the ESL in programming that tool you could award them some privileges (lower fee, better placement in the menu, ...).
Post edited 2012-08-07 04:45:34
omg if here is chance have tournament in 1.6 we must support it. and no Promod... if no will be chance for CS we must switch on promod but now go vote for 1.6
1-6 forever
no csp and csgo
no csp and csgo
pls I have problem with instalation Cspromod what i need Source or only SDK source 2007?
Go CSPROMOD!
Promod already failed
Hey, You already failed to be a troll
Post edited 2012-08-07 21:59:20
Post edited 2012-08-07 21:59:20
Thx for the jellyness
Really what is CSP's developters thinking! They MUST work with ESEA to get big and they know it!
Promod will never be picked up by ESEA. lpkane (the manager of ESEA) has a personal grudge against CS:P and feels that they had their time to shine, but wasted it. So I wouldn't get your hopes up.
then lets all go the lpkane's house and... make him change his mind?
nah just joking PLEASE DONT BAN ME:D
nah just joking PLEASE DONT BAN ME:D
Would rather have CS:GO anyway to be honest, based off of the facts that it's going to generate far more sponsors and talent due to it being a Valve game, and it'll be advertised over steam, so millions of people are going to see, and possibly buy the game.
500+ teams signed up for the US CS:GO ESWC qualifer. The game is good and almost ready to play competitively. If 1.6ers jump on board then we'll have a united CS scene, which would be fantastic.
500+ teams signed up for the US CS:GO ESWC qualifer. The game is good and almost ready to play competitively. If 1.6ers jump on board then we'll have a united CS scene, which would be fantastic.
only change if you LIKE the game. if you dont then why change? because of sponsors and more people playing it? why? what is the fun about that?
When it first came into beta and I received an invite, I was very skeptical and rightly so, the game was horrid.
In the past few weeks I've been playing it and honestly? With the final release patch coming soon to fix the spray and audio, combined with the map workshop (we've already seen Volcano's new version of nuke), I can say that the game is going to be the next main title for counter strike. It's a fun game to play.
Promod has had it's chance to become competitively viable, and it's just never put in the time or effort to make that happen.
In the past few weeks I've been playing it and honestly? With the final release patch coming soon to fix the spray and audio, combined with the map workshop (we've already seen Volcano's new version of nuke), I can say that the game is going to be the next main title for counter strike. It's a fun game to play.
Promod has had it's chance to become competitively viable, and it's just never put in the time or effort to make that happen.
"if we were to form some sort of partnership with csp where our interests were protected, and we were able to use some of our programming talent to improve the game as well as the development cycle, then by all means i'd consider supporting it"
lpkane
lpkane
Now can you tell me what the pros and cons are of taking CS:Promod over CS:GO?
I don't know why the 1.6 community insists on keeping the split between franchises. Promod is completely overshadowed by GO, and with official support from Valve, I don't know why you'd pick a third party title over it.
I don't know why the 1.6 community insists on keeping the split between franchises. Promod is completely overshadowed by GO, and with official support from Valve, I don't know why you'd pick a third party title over it.
we think Promod is a good game, and CS:GO is a bad one.
If that isn't a good reason of why we insist on splitting the franchises, CSP have more things going for it aswell;
international playa
free 2 play
will always become updated
created by the community for the community
If that isn't a good reason of why we insist on splitting the franchises, CSP have more things going for it aswell;
international playa
free 2 play
will always become updated
created by the community for the community
Okay well let's put it this way
CS:GO
Actually is a good game if you give it a chance, regular updates being applied with a big one in the works regarding multiple issues that have been submitted BY THE COMMUNITY (EG recoil, audio and so forth). GO is just as much of a community-based game as Promod.
International play.. Pretty sure you can do that with any server containing dedicated servers. There are also methods of reducing your ping through any game, you just need the right custom routing service, but either way with any CS title there are always local servers to play on, not too much of a big deal.
Well would you like to look at the amount of updates that CS:Promod has received over the YEARS compared to how many updates CS:GO has received in a matter of months?
I believe I've covered everything, throw that in with the fact that big names are already looking towards CS:GO and there, you have the future of counter-strike.
It is a good game. But people should maybe try and accept change instead of clinging to one game. It's got some different elements but it's still Counter-Strike all in all.
OH and, CS:GO is 15 US Dollars...
pretty sure 1.6 was 10 dollars to purchase, probably more when it first came out.
Post edited 2012-08-07 16:11:26
CS:GO
Actually is a good game if you give it a chance, regular updates being applied with a big one in the works regarding multiple issues that have been submitted BY THE COMMUNITY (EG recoil, audio and so forth). GO is just as much of a community-based game as Promod.
International play.. Pretty sure you can do that with any server containing dedicated servers. There are also methods of reducing your ping through any game, you just need the right custom routing service, but either way with any CS title there are always local servers to play on, not too much of a big deal.
Well would you like to look at the amount of updates that CS:Promod has received over the YEARS compared to how many updates CS:GO has received in a matter of months?
I believe I've covered everything, throw that in with the fact that big names are already looking towards CS:GO and there, you have the future of counter-strike.
It is a good game. But people should maybe try and accept change instead of clinging to one game. It's got some different elements but it's still Counter-Strike all in all.
OH and, CS:GO is 15 US Dollars...
pretty sure 1.6 was 10 dollars to purchase, probably more when it first came out.
Post edited 2012-08-07 16:11:26
"Actually is a good game if you give it a chance, " that is up to every individual to decide.
International play is a big deal.
The amount of updates Promod had doesn't matter, we still think it's the better game and the first competition ready version will be out before CS:GO.
International play is a big deal.
The amount of updates Promod had doesn't matter, we still think it's the better game and the first competition ready version will be out before CS:GO.
So why did you make a point of mentioning the incorrect fact that it will be constantly updated?
Source players gave promod more of a chance initially, when all the 1.6 community did was turn a blind eye. Now that your game is dying, you're all running to CSP.
Source players gave promod more of a chance initially, when all the 1.6 community did was turn a blind eye. Now that your game is dying, you're all running to CSP.
Well, CSPromod updates will come - just slowly. Valve will cash in and say CYA after CS:GO-release.
I don't really care about the CS:S-players, if it became a 1.6/CS:S-situation but with CSP/CS:S it doesn't matter, the two games can coexist.
I don't really care about the CS:S-players, if it became a 1.6/CS:S-situation but with CSP/CS:S it doesn't matter, the two games can coexist.
Hold on, we're disregarding the biggest fact of all here. You're saying a game is bad, yet it's in BETA. It hasn't even been released as a final version yet, and surely after that it will be updated consistently to finetune any bugs or implement suggestions as HPE and Valve sees fit.
I can't believe people actually decide they don't like a new version of CS before it's even released.
I can't believe people actually decide they don't like a new version of CS before it's even released.
Valve doesn't listen to the feedback we 1.6'ers come with and the BETA is over in 2.5 weeks or something like that.
No fucking chance the game'll get good until then.
No fucking chance the game'll get good until then.
1.6ers: source is too easy, spray at someone's feet and get a headshot every time.
*GO recoil is immensely hard to control*
1.6ers: We hate GO.
*GO recoil is immensely hard to control*
1.6ers: We hate GO.
The game plays completely differently to source just saying, or have you not played source?
well valve fkd up dota,fukd up css and now i should trust them with csgo which looks and plays terrible?
And how does 1.6 look?
You realize most people hated 1.6 when it came out right?
By the way, source is perfectly playable after all the updates it's received this year. Brilliant game as it stands.
You realize most people hated 1.6 when it came out right?
By the way, source is perfectly playable after all the updates it's received this year. Brilliant game as it stands.
dude? who hated 1.6? talk for yourself please, dont try to be a genius on a gaming forum.
Everyone knows that when the game was first released a large majority of those who had played 1.5 despised 1.6.
This is true. It's funny how some people think 1.6 was the only version of cs.
When people are given a choice in these contexts, they want to stick to what they're used to. When 1.5 was updated to 1.6, a lot of people raged. But eventually people got used to it.
When css came, it was released as a separate game, and not an update. People had the choice, so they stayed with what they were used to.
When people are given a choice in these contexts, they want to stick to what they're used to. When 1.5 was updated to 1.6, a lot of people raged. But eventually people got used to it.
When css came, it was released as a separate game, and not an update. People had the choice, so they stayed with what they were used to.
i am one of them. i still think that 1.5 > 1.6 but when i played css/csgo/csp early versions it felt nothing like cs... i am not competent to judge if a game is or wil be a good
e-sport title but for me those new counterstrikes are no fun at all...
i also tried out valve's dota2 and it just doesn't feel right,played dota from it's first versions... now i'll probably stick just to blizzard games they at least know how to keep the same gameplay and update the eye candy stuff properly...
e-sport title but for me those new counterstrikes are no fun at all...
i also tried out valve's dota2 and it just doesn't feel right,played dota from it's first versions... now i'll probably stick just to blizzard games they at least know how to keep the same gameplay and update the eye candy stuff properly...
Oh god....
People hated 1.6 because of Steam.
But what do you know about the release of 1.6? You were 8 years old at this time...
You better don't talk about things you don't know.
Post edited 2012-08-09 10:19:38
People hated 1.6 because of Steam.
But what do you know about the release of 1.6? You were 8 years old at this time...
You better don't talk about things you don't know.
Post edited 2012-08-09 10:19:38
So people still hated 1.6? Yes.
Why? Because it was a CHANGE, you say it's just down to the platform change, as it was released on steam. But I'm fairly sure people complained about the bugs in the game (those who had transitioned from 1.5).
Yes, I hadn't even started gaming yet when it was released, but in case you haven't noticed, there's a little site called google where you can actually look at things that have happened IN THE PAST.
Get over yourself.
Why? Because it was a CHANGE, you say it's just down to the platform change, as it was released on steam. But I'm fairly sure people complained about the bugs in the game (those who had transitioned from 1.5).
Yes, I hadn't even started gaming yet when it was released, but in case you haven't noticed, there's a little site called google where you can actually look at things that have happened IN THE PAST.
Get over yourself.
God dammit. Why do you keep talking about stuff you know shit about?
I was in your age at this time and I followed the CS community like an addict. Why should you, a guy who was 8 years old at this time, explain me what people actually thought about 1.6 in 2003?
"Why? Because it was a CHANGE."
W R O N G
The majority of all people (about 95%) never had a problem with the revamped maps like aztec and inferno and almost everyone was happy to see new weapons like the galil and the famas.
Most people never realized the minor gameplay changes since most of these changes weren't even noticeable.
There were also a lot of improvements. The netcode got tweaked, a new money-system for de_-maps (created by shaGuar) came with a patch, the random-damage-factor got deleted, etc ...
The only change in terms of gameplay people didn't like was the tactical-shield. And we were right to hate it. It totally killed the gameplay. Today it's banned in every league and on every "serious" server.
you say it's just down to the platform change, as it was released on steam. But I'm fairly sure people complained about the bugs in the game (those who had transitioned from 1.5)."
What new bugs?! It's the opposite: Valve fixed a lot of bugs from 1.5. I can't remember any new bugs.
The thing that was full of bugs and that made a lot of people hate 1.6 was Steam. It wasn't possible to play longer than 1h without being dropped out of Steam. Steam always crashed and there were hundreds of annoying bugs. I remember we couldn't play for almost 2 days because Steam didn't load the needed files. And every time you wanted to play you had to open some Steam-folder and delete some temporary files. People got really mad about that and that's why there was so much hate towards 1.6.
You simply can't compare the switch from 1.5 to 1.6 with the switch from 1.6 to CS:S or CS:GO.
Post edited 2012-08-09 11:10:16
I was in your age at this time and I followed the CS community like an addict. Why should you, a guy who was 8 years old at this time, explain me what people actually thought about 1.6 in 2003?
"Why? Because it was a CHANGE."
W R O N G
The majority of all people (about 95%) never had a problem with the revamped maps like aztec and inferno and almost everyone was happy to see new weapons like the galil and the famas.
Most people never realized the minor gameplay changes since most of these changes weren't even noticeable.
There were also a lot of improvements. The netcode got tweaked, a new money-system for de_-maps (created by shaGuar) came with a patch, the random-damage-factor got deleted, etc ...
The only change in terms of gameplay people didn't like was the tactical-shield. And we were right to hate it. It totally killed the gameplay. Today it's banned in every league and on every "serious" server.
you say it's just down to the platform change, as it was released on steam. But I'm fairly sure people complained about the bugs in the game (those who had transitioned from 1.5)."
What new bugs?! It's the opposite: Valve fixed a lot of bugs from 1.5. I can't remember any new bugs.
The thing that was full of bugs and that made a lot of people hate 1.6 was Steam. It wasn't possible to play longer than 1h without being dropped out of Steam. Steam always crashed and there were hundreds of annoying bugs. I remember we couldn't play for almost 2 days because Steam didn't load the needed files. And every time you wanted to play you had to open some Steam-folder and delete some temporary files. People got really mad about that and that's why there was so much hate towards 1.6.
You simply can't compare the switch from 1.5 to 1.6 with the switch from 1.6 to CS:S or CS:GO.
Post edited 2012-08-09 11:10:16
bah i'll have to just +1 you cos I have no luck today, I wrote a big post and firefox crashed :]
+ not to forget:
A lot of people used a cracked version of CS. On 1 HL-key there were like 5 players. When Steam came out you had to register your HL-key to activate CS. A lot of people weren't able to play CS anymore (although they were already playing it for years) and they had to buy it "again"(it was free at the beginning and HL keys were all over the internet so most people never paid for CS). Those people got mad.
Post edited 2012-08-09 11:37:52
A lot of people used a cracked version of CS. On 1 HL-key there were like 5 players. When Steam came out you had to register your HL-key to activate CS. A lot of people weren't able to play CS anymore (although they were already playing it for years) and they had to buy it "again"(it was free at the beginning and HL keys were all over the internet so most people never paid for CS). Those people got mad.
Post edited 2012-08-09 11:37:52
Actually you should get over yourself.
No one hated 1.6, what we hated was Steam being pushed down our throats, which required you to be online constantly at the time, and I still had a modem at that time. WON was being brought down soon after that. Only thing which was really bad in 1.6 was the shield and that got fixed rather soon.
And I won't play CS:GO, I have not tried it, I just read about it and at the moment the game does not interest me one bit, I know what I want a so do other people. If you can't see when games are made just for profit then you are just being ignorant. CS is CS and CSP is the only game trying to be a better version of CS, not make a better profit than it.
So fuck tournaments and fuck valve and fuck whatever game most people play, none of that made cs what it is today. High learning curve 13 years and counting, no update 6 years and counting.
No one hated 1.6, what we hated was Steam being pushed down our throats, which required you to be online constantly at the time, and I still had a modem at that time. WON was being brought down soon after that. Only thing which was really bad in 1.6 was the shield and that got fixed rather soon.
And I won't play CS:GO, I have not tried it, I just read about it and at the moment the game does not interest me one bit, I know what I want a so do other people. If you can't see when games are made just for profit then you are just being ignorant. CS is CS and CSP is the only game trying to be a better version of CS, not make a better profit than it.
So fuck tournaments and fuck valve and fuck whatever game most people play, none of that made cs what it is today. High learning curve 13 years and counting, no update 6 years and counting.
Well then okay fair enough, I was going off of what people told me / things I've read on the internet, but you two seem to obviously know first hand what actually happened, so apologies for that.
But Spezz, you just made a huge mistake, because you applied my logic and then made yourself look stupid.
"I have not tried it, I just read about it"
You have no right to talk about a game you have not played, if we're going off of my supposed flawed logic.
No update for 6 years? I don't know what you're talking about. If it's CS in general, they updated Source a huge amount, and it's actually competitively viable now.
CSP has been updated a few times with a few improvements here and there.
CS:GO is updated constantly and has created a new, more strategic style of gameplay.
I don't know what you mean...
But Spezz, you just made a huge mistake, because you applied my logic and then made yourself look stupid.
"I have not tried it, I just read about it"
You have no right to talk about a game you have not played, if we're going off of my supposed flawed logic.
No update for 6 years? I don't know what you're talking about. If it's CS in general, they updated Source a huge amount, and it's actually competitively viable now.
CSP has been updated a few times with a few improvements here and there.
CS:GO is updated constantly and has created a new, more strategic style of gameplay.
I don't know what you mean...
I mean CS as in Counter-Strike not CSS, CSP or CSGO or CSCZ.
And my logic is quite sound. Map walls are not flat and plain, I don't have to play the game to know it will obviously suck, cos retarded game developers that valve hires don't understand that nades/flashes/smokes and the way they can be used in CS 1.6 atm are the only reason CS is above other games of this genre. Might as well play CoD if you take that away from the game.
And my logic is quite sound. Map walls are not flat and plain, I don't have to play the game to know it will obviously suck, cos retarded game developers that valve hires don't understand that nades/flashes/smokes and the way they can be used in CS 1.6 atm are the only reason CS is above other games of this genre. Might as well play CoD if you take that away from the game.
Nades flashes and smokes can also be used in Source.
^ this dude is correct, stop getting excited noobs
I play what I want to play, not what I need to play in order to be in community where everyone comes from different game that I don't want to play and in the end playing another different game.
it's like coming from A community to B community which has people from C and D community to play B game.
it's like a joke
it's like coming from A community to B community which has people from C and D community to play B game.
it's like a joke
if we were to form some sort of partnership with csp where our interests were protected, and we were able to use some of our programming talent to improve the game as well as the development cycle, then by all means i'd consider supporting it
lpkane
lpkane
I want to play 1.6, don't really like CSP (Although it's in 2nd place in my fav cs versions :P) Couldn't really hit my shots like in 1.6 :/ But I guess I would be fine after some more gameplay ;)
1.6 > csp > go > css
i'd rather play promod , just hope it can compete with the hype that is cs:go ..
i'd rather play promod , just hope it can compete with the hype that is cs:go ..
+1
support csp , if 1.6 dies
support csp , if 1.6 dies
Why to support CSP, when we have CS 1.6
Sorry to CSP developers, but Promod can't even touch legendary 1.6
Sorry to CSP developers, but Promod can't even touch legendary 1.6
Because 1.6 is dying because it isn't global and CSP can fix that?
this!
As much as you guys try it wont happen at all because promod tried to compete with ESEA in the US and Esea just dominated it, plus who would pick up a game developed by 10-15 people with little or no funding at all and take 8-10 months for 1 minor update?
if we were to form some sort of partnership with csp where our interests were protected, and we were able to use some of our programming talent to improve the game as well as the development cycle, then by all means i'd consider supporting it
lpkane
lpkane
"On April 12, 2000, Valve announced that the Counter-Strike developers and Valve had teamed up."
if you weren't a youngster you would know that the original cs started like csp... couple of guys made it on the hl engine valve picked it up and you got cs and up to now valve just screwed it up trying to make it "better"...
if you weren't a youngster you would know that the original cs started like csp... couple of guys made it on the hl engine valve picked it up and you got cs and up to now valve just screwed it up trying to make it "better"...
When i try to join a server the freezes.
Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
wait, it seems like its frozen, but its loading...
just wait 5-10 minutes, and its ready to play.
it happen just in the first load.
just wait 5-10 minutes, and its ready to play.
it happen just in the first load.
cs go easy win
People saying CSGO easy win" cause of the latest news? Rofl
Your arguments make no sense.
I don't understand why people still have their hopes up for Promod. They're working super slow and they don't communicate with the community that much - people are praising them and getting their hopes up while getting almost nothing back from the developers.
Maybe they should set their priorities straight? They have competition now, the release of CS:GO is just around the corner and they're staying quiet. This is the time to show the community why it's worth it to play CS:P instead of CS:GO and develop an actual fanbase!
What I believe is that CS:P will fail because of the poor marketing from the developers. They're simply gonna lose out to CS:GO on everything - marketing, experience and manpower. CS:P has had the chance to be an amazing game. If, and I say if CS:P would get a following it would be purely 1.6 fans which would basically create the same game. The CS:P team simply don't have the resources to develop the things around the game. For example viewability is an important aspect to keep in mind if you want to create a successfull e-Sports game - something CS:GO eventually will have (an interface and easy shortcuts for spectators) while CS:P would take a super long time to develop a simple interface.
I think people should open their eyes. You can't have the exact same feeling as 1.6 if you want to reach the big markets. CS:GO is doing an okay job, listening to players WHILE thinking of the big picture and it's actually a pretty okay game. It's sad that most diehard 1.6-fans are never going to open their eyes and give CS:GO a chance. Sure, it might be frustrating to play at first but after playing a while you get into it and right now, I'm absolutely loving it.
Post edited 2012-08-08 12:49:34
I don't understand why people still have their hopes up for Promod. They're working super slow and they don't communicate with the community that much - people are praising them and getting their hopes up while getting almost nothing back from the developers.
Maybe they should set their priorities straight? They have competition now, the release of CS:GO is just around the corner and they're staying quiet. This is the time to show the community why it's worth it to play CS:P instead of CS:GO and develop an actual fanbase!
What I believe is that CS:P will fail because of the poor marketing from the developers. They're simply gonna lose out to CS:GO on everything - marketing, experience and manpower. CS:P has had the chance to be an amazing game. If, and I say if CS:P would get a following it would be purely 1.6 fans which would basically create the same game. The CS:P team simply don't have the resources to develop the things around the game. For example viewability is an important aspect to keep in mind if you want to create a successfull e-Sports game - something CS:GO eventually will have (an interface and easy shortcuts for spectators) while CS:P would take a super long time to develop a simple interface.
I think people should open their eyes. You can't have the exact same feeling as 1.6 if you want to reach the big markets. CS:GO is doing an okay job, listening to players WHILE thinking of the big picture and it's actually a pretty okay game. It's sad that most diehard 1.6-fans are never going to open their eyes and give CS:GO a chance. Sure, it might be frustrating to play at first but after playing a while you get into it and right now, I'm absolutely loving it.
Post edited 2012-08-08 12:49:34
Are you serious?
I and other devs have been communicating and answering questions and concerns the last couple of weeks.
Judging from your post, you're clearly jumping on to the bandwagon. Just because you havent seen behind the scenes of CSP does not mean such things haven't been done and using the fact that CSP "had its chance" is utter bulls***.
Also, you say CSGO devs are listening. When?? From what I've read, no they haven't. It frustrates me seeing people praise CSGO cause people think valve are making this game JUST for competitive play - its an excuse to make money. You'll still have tracers in game, still have 66 tick servers only, still have easy recoil and control etc.
Things that have been asked for and not been done other than the recoil tweak.
Your ending comment "I'm absolutely loving it" is the clear sign you've given up hope on 1.6 or you were a source player. I see CZ:Source in GO and that's all.
I and other devs have been communicating and answering questions and concerns the last couple of weeks.
Judging from your post, you're clearly jumping on to the bandwagon. Just because you havent seen behind the scenes of CSP does not mean such things haven't been done and using the fact that CSP "had its chance" is utter bulls***.
Also, you say CSGO devs are listening. When?? From what I've read, no they haven't. It frustrates me seeing people praise CSGO cause people think valve are making this game JUST for competitive play - its an excuse to make money. You'll still have tracers in game, still have 66 tick servers only, still have easy recoil and control etc.
Things that have been asked for and not been done other than the recoil tweak.
Your ending comment "I'm absolutely loving it" is the clear sign you've given up hope on 1.6 or you were a source player. I see CZ:Source in GO and that's all.
Sorry for seeming super ignorant, totally not my intention. I haven't really been following the updating from you guys so this was all from what I've heard. Even though it might not be the truth it's what it seems like from the way everyone is talking of you guys.
I'm not jumping on any bandwagon, I'm a 1.6 player since way back and I've been playing my heart out, competing, going to lans and 1.6 has been a huge part of my life for many years. The problem is that the 1.6 scene is so close to dying now, there's barely anything to play and CS:GO is kind of the light in the end of the tunnel. I've been playing it a lot, putting many hours into deathmatch and I'm starting to learn the game way better and I like it. I think one of the reasons people hate on CS:GO is because they never give it a chance - of course it's different from 1.6 but you have to give it a chance. You weren't even remotely good after 1000 hours of 1.6 and therefore you should know that you can't expect to be good at GO after an hour. Of course, it's not 1.6 and it probably has a worse gameplay than CSP but right now it has a brighter future - I see almost nothing about CSP on mainstream websites while CS:GO is getting a lot of attention almost everywhere.
I hope you can see it from a players standpoint. Playing 1.6 all your life, seeing news about Promod in the hard times of 1.6 and getting super excited. We've tried it out, played it for a few days and gotten to learn it but it's never truly been released or gotten into the spotlight. I remember a Swedish gather channel starting up and getting a decent amount of players but eventually it died out because everyone said "CSP will never be finished anyways".
I have no exact numbers but it feels like atleast two, almost three years since I saw that awesome article on CSP on fragbite.com. We hyped it endlessly but nothing came out of it.
Also, dude, the devs are listening. They've been adding a lot of stuff in the update, there are of course a few things they've missed but they've managed to understand the general consensus of the community opinions.
Nonetheless, huge respect to you guys. If I had to choose a game to win "the battle" I'd choose CSP without missing a beat.
Post edited 2012-08-08 14:29:00
I'm not jumping on any bandwagon, I'm a 1.6 player since way back and I've been playing my heart out, competing, going to lans and 1.6 has been a huge part of my life for many years. The problem is that the 1.6 scene is so close to dying now, there's barely anything to play and CS:GO is kind of the light in the end of the tunnel. I've been playing it a lot, putting many hours into deathmatch and I'm starting to learn the game way better and I like it. I think one of the reasons people hate on CS:GO is because they never give it a chance - of course it's different from 1.6 but you have to give it a chance. You weren't even remotely good after 1000 hours of 1.6 and therefore you should know that you can't expect to be good at GO after an hour. Of course, it's not 1.6 and it probably has a worse gameplay than CSP but right now it has a brighter future - I see almost nothing about CSP on mainstream websites while CS:GO is getting a lot of attention almost everywhere.
I hope you can see it from a players standpoint. Playing 1.6 all your life, seeing news about Promod in the hard times of 1.6 and getting super excited. We've tried it out, played it for a few days and gotten to learn it but it's never truly been released or gotten into the spotlight. I remember a Swedish gather channel starting up and getting a decent amount of players but eventually it died out because everyone said "CSP will never be finished anyways".
I have no exact numbers but it feels like atleast two, almost three years since I saw that awesome article on CSP on fragbite.com. We hyped it endlessly but nothing came out of it.
Also, dude, the devs are listening. They've been adding a lot of stuff in the update, there are of course a few things they've missed but they've managed to understand the general consensus of the community opinions.
Nonetheless, huge respect to you guys. If I had to choose a game to win "the battle" I'd choose CSP without missing a beat.
Post edited 2012-08-08 14:29:00
didn't read lol
Its funny how CSP fanboys say 1.6 is dying. Really? Was CSP ever alive? Not, it was dead born just like Source.
Peace!
Post edited 2012-08-08 15:01:19
Peace!
Post edited 2012-08-08 15:01:19
its funny how you're still talking.
Think the cspromod dev's need to cut their ideas a bit to suit ESEA because I think cs 1.6 is still very popular (in India) for csp to be a success.
If VALVE sees that CSP is a real competor for CSGO they will take part into the copyright and take off the CSP proyect. Remember that CSP is based in Source SDK code, and that code has copyright from VALVE, they can revoke all licenses for that proyect and force CSP team to close it to promote CSGO.
Why do people talk when they have no fucking idea about what they're saying?
CSP is completely legal and Valve can't do anything about it.
CSP is completely legal and Valve can't do anything about it.
real competor for CSGO?
in which world do you live?
in which world do you live?
In the real world. Wait and see little child.
CSPromod is such an amazing game already and it would be awesome to have it totally developed
Didn't they figured out a way to remove the lag feeling on like 200 latency? I mean, this would be perfect, since we have ESEA in America and ESEA in Europe now, we could have Europeans playing with Americans in ESEA!
CSPROMOD to ESEA ! but seems not :{
Post edited 2012-08-08 16:27:49
Post edited 2012-08-08 16:27:49
prefer CS1.6 but CSPromod seem good too
no pormod and cs go
1-6 4ever
1-6 4ever
CSP devs had a meeting yesterday(?) any news on the release date of 1.09?
Would be great. Anyone knows if I have to pay for source to play this game? Because I've downloaded it and I get kind of stucked when starting a local game or joining to a server...
For me is to help CSPromod trendria to be a great game, there are only beta and it has proven people loved him, I am one of them :). Sorry for my English
Valve is stupid because if they listened to us, they would get instant 100k-150k purchases of "competitive" players..
CSpromod > CS:GO all the day long
Promod is for competitive level,GO is for kids from CoD and BF
so true!
+1111111111111111111111337
Do not playing on ESEA but hell yeah CSPromod to ESEA!!!!!
No thanks.
CSPROMOD TO ESEA!!
CSPROMOD is now to late... CS:GO take over cs1.6 and source players and all the sponsers
I really wish that csp will success more then cs:go but i cant see that happen
CSP FTW
I really wish that csp will success more then cs:go but i cant see that happen
CSP FTW
CSP will keep failing if the company is run by developers. It has a lot of potential though
Csgo or nothing, its simple if you want to compete.
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