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The Truth About The Future of CS
2012-08-07 17:14
Sup guys Emre here im 15 Been gaming competitively for about 4 years now and about 6 years overall, And here's my first blog.
Here is What Most of you on Here THINK.
- We aren't gonna play a game just for the name
- Valve is forcing us to play / Stop trying to convince us to play
- i don't care about GO its a bad game
- ESEA will pick up promod
- Promod is the only way
- ESEA will revive 1.6
Here are the FACTS
- No one is saying anything about the name this is a chance for 1.6 / Source / Cod / BF3 / TF2 / Quake players to form into 1 community ok Everyone is going to have to adapt to new things, yes its hard my switch from 1.6 to GO sucked at first but when you get the hang of it the game is pretty good for BETA.
- Valve isint forcing anyone to play. in the NA scene Cod just died out and we now have Cod / Source / 1.6 teams playing for season 12 of GO on ESEA Obviously everyone will be more attracted to the game because of many communities combining into one to play ONE NEW GAME. Companies are going to see a huge opportunity to make some good money by hosting big events so yeah it does look appealing.
- Most of the people who comment saying its a bad game probably didn't even play a PUB. Probably only watched a stream and came to an instant conclusion of saying its a bad game, Yes i admit it needs some TWEAKING but the future of this game could be HUGE if people choose to adapt.
- Cant speak Clearly on this because im not Lpkane. But i will speak on the posts i saw on ESEA forums. Few things on why ESEA probably wont pick up CSP is that CSP Tried to compete with ESEA, and obviously got blown out. Also this is mostly about MONEY would you rather go with a successful Game developing company. OR 10-15 Developers working on a side project with little or no funding and wait 8-10 months for some basic updates. Like Seriously? use SOME Common sense you have to look at these things in a business aspect.
- Refer to this ^
- ESEA had a CHANCE to revive it if it was 2008 when the community was still active. Now have a look at the pro teams SK is dead, MTW is dead and many other teams. Dont get me wrong i would LOVE to see 1.6 have some sort of bind with NA gamers and EU Gamers and have tons of events but the thing is ESEA picked the wrong time if they tried reviving 1.6. So its obvious that they are trying to promote GO.
IF we all sacrifice a 12 year old game and make the switch over to GO we have a chance to keep FPS games alive, if you look at it its slowly dieng to games like Starcraft LoL Dota, Cod was removed from MLG which was the ONLY supporter of that FPS on console, ESEA supports 1.6 And source and its dieng aswell because the prize pools are being cut so there is more money for GO. And id like to know whats in the EU that still shows CONSTANT Support for 1.6? And here's some pros and cons about the game in my opinion.
Pros
- Its a new game many communities will shift over here because its the only possible chance of keeping FPS games alive.
- The more people that GO has the more companies will support it and we might be able to see some great players make comebacks.
- Valve is working with Many former Pro players to help make the game suitable for ALL Communities.
- The game is more exciting to watch because new maps and Molotov's make the game SO much more interesting they can change a 100% T sided map into a CT sided map if they are placed properly
- Frags Take timing and proper positioning to get now.
- The game is only 15$ So their will be a ton of people looking forward to buying it.
- Valve and Former 1.6 Pros are constantly working on trying to create more fast paced maps so the useless junk is moved out and it provides a greater playing and viewing experience.
Cons *The first 4 may change upon release*
- Recoil is messed up first 11 bullets zig zag and the other 19 continue as a T
- Smokes are one way
- Flashes Last To long
- Barely any Boosts
- Adapting from the fast 1.6 type game play to a more methodical strategic type of game play.
- People being to stubborn to give it a chance.
-TLDR-
We have potential to make FPS games the top contender of eSports if we come together and sacrifice certain things.
Here is What Most of you on Here THINK.
- We aren't gonna play a game just for the name
- Valve is forcing us to play / Stop trying to convince us to play
- i don't care about GO its a bad game
- ESEA will pick up promod
- Promod is the only way
- ESEA will revive 1.6
Here are the FACTS
- No one is saying anything about the name this is a chance for 1.6 / Source / Cod / BF3 / TF2 / Quake players to form into 1 community ok Everyone is going to have to adapt to new things, yes its hard my switch from 1.6 to GO sucked at first but when you get the hang of it the game is pretty good for BETA.
- Valve isint forcing anyone to play. in the NA scene Cod just died out and we now have Cod / Source / 1.6 teams playing for season 12 of GO on ESEA Obviously everyone will be more attracted to the game because of many communities combining into one to play ONE NEW GAME. Companies are going to see a huge opportunity to make some good money by hosting big events so yeah it does look appealing.
- Most of the people who comment saying its a bad game probably didn't even play a PUB. Probably only watched a stream and came to an instant conclusion of saying its a bad game, Yes i admit it needs some TWEAKING but the future of this game could be HUGE if people choose to adapt.
- Cant speak Clearly on this because im not Lpkane. But i will speak on the posts i saw on ESEA forums. Few things on why ESEA probably wont pick up CSP is that CSP Tried to compete with ESEA, and obviously got blown out. Also this is mostly about MONEY would you rather go with a successful Game developing company. OR 10-15 Developers working on a side project with little or no funding and wait 8-10 months for some basic updates. Like Seriously? use SOME Common sense you have to look at these things in a business aspect.
- Refer to this ^
- ESEA had a CHANCE to revive it if it was 2008 when the community was still active. Now have a look at the pro teams SK is dead, MTW is dead and many other teams. Dont get me wrong i would LOVE to see 1.6 have some sort of bind with NA gamers and EU Gamers and have tons of events but the thing is ESEA picked the wrong time if they tried reviving 1.6. So its obvious that they are trying to promote GO.
IF we all sacrifice a 12 year old game and make the switch over to GO we have a chance to keep FPS games alive, if you look at it its slowly dieng to games like Starcraft LoL Dota, Cod was removed from MLG which was the ONLY supporter of that FPS on console, ESEA supports 1.6 And source and its dieng aswell because the prize pools are being cut so there is more money for GO. And id like to know whats in the EU that still shows CONSTANT Support for 1.6? And here's some pros and cons about the game in my opinion.
Pros
- Its a new game many communities will shift over here because its the only possible chance of keeping FPS games alive.
- The more people that GO has the more companies will support it and we might be able to see some great players make comebacks.
- Valve is working with Many former Pro players to help make the game suitable for ALL Communities.
- The game is more exciting to watch because new maps and Molotov's make the game SO much more interesting they can change a 100% T sided map into a CT sided map if they are placed properly
- Frags Take timing and proper positioning to get now.
- The game is only 15$ So their will be a ton of people looking forward to buying it.
- Valve and Former 1.6 Pros are constantly working on trying to create more fast paced maps so the useless junk is moved out and it provides a greater playing and viewing experience.
Cons *The first 4 may change upon release*
- Recoil is messed up first 11 bullets zig zag and the other 19 continue as a T
- Smokes are one way
- Flashes Last To long
- Barely any Boosts
- Adapting from the fast 1.6 type game play to a more methodical strategic type of game play.
- People being to stubborn to give it a chance.
-TLDR-
We have potential to make FPS games the top contender of eSports if we come together and sacrifice certain things.
no..
Does the truth hurt?
What truth? Aren't we all entitled to our own opinions?
Most of the stuff on here could be supported with facts which makes them mostly true.
what a trolled comment
So?
They wouldn't necessarily be seen as facts, depending on who you are and what your viewpoints are and how you think of the situation, what your opinion is to start with and if you're one of those who hop on the bandwagon and say 'No CS:GO Sucks!11'
But I've got the beta, And I've played for what, 28 hours or so total? I don't think it's bad but it was never made to replace CS 1.6 to begin with.
And honestly, it's just BAD for competitive play, I mean, you can't even purchase single magazines for your gun, you get full ammo with the gun free of charge which is one bad thing, and maps are totally fucked up, even if there are competitive custom maps getting released recently.
They wouldn't necessarily be seen as facts, depending on who you are and what your viewpoints are and how you think of the situation, what your opinion is to start with and if you're one of those who hop on the bandwagon and say 'No CS:GO Sucks!11'
But I've got the beta, And I've played for what, 28 hours or so total? I don't think it's bad but it was never made to replace CS 1.6 to begin with.
And honestly, it's just BAD for competitive play, I mean, you can't even purchase single magazines for your gun, you get full ammo with the gun free of charge which is one bad thing, and maps are totally fucked up, even if there are competitive custom maps getting released recently.
No , what hurts is that I've wasted my time reading a 15 year-old kid's blog ...
CS:GO is not Counter-Strike , it's a new worse CoD version.
CS 1.6 > all atm.
I won't switch to CS:GO and 80% of the community won't too , we'll wait for a game that deserves to replace 1.6 .
CS:GO is not Counter-Strike , it's a new worse CoD version.
CS 1.6 > all atm.
I won't switch to CS:GO and 80% of the community won't too , we'll wait for a game that deserves to replace 1.6 .
+1 cs 1.6 > NOT cs source,NOT cs go, just source and go, CoD,BF,shootmania,point blank,cross fire and etc. They all sucks,cs 1.6 is the best FPS game ever
The community will change because the sponsor will drop 1.6. It's sad but that's the reality. Just look at the prizes for Dreamhack Winter. That prizemoney didn't gave away at Dreamhack for 1.6 in the last years. CS:GO will bring the two CS communitys together and we have to thank for it. More prizemoney for one game and the competition will only get better.
To remind you, less than 5% of the community actually plays competitively. Even if the sponsors drop CS 1.6 and 1.6 is nowhere on the competitive map, I would not switch to a game from a game I already adore just because some guy who plays 1.6 for money is switching to make more money. If someone actually does that, they have to be a tool. It seems like people are 13 year old teenagers who can be so easily persuaded and convinced based on the fact that because their 'random internet hero' is switching to CS:GO, they should too. Reminds me of kids who try to do/buy/become like their shitty pop star role models. Sickening.
Can't believe people come up with 'sponsors dropping 1.6' as reasons why the majority of the community should switch.
Post edited 2012-08-15 16:04:20
Can't believe people come up with 'sponsors dropping 1.6' as reasons why the majority of the community should switch.
Post edited 2012-08-15 16:04:20
+1!
guys, you're boring with these blogs about dying of CS 1.6 and her future.
Post edited 2012-08-07 17:38:07
Post edited 2012-08-07 17:38:07
Not saying 1.6 is dying im saying FPS games overall are dying
Well said dude !
But its way too tuff to witch from 1.6 to GO
People want that game back which they are playing since years !!
But its way too tuff to witch from 1.6 to GO
People want that game back which they are playing since years !!
Yeah But if you look at the upcoming events THERE ARE NO MORE FPS GAMES LEFT
fuck RTS
And how does 'upcoming tournaments not having an FPS game' on their list affect you?
Well, good to hear that at least someone is enjoying it I guess. Have fun!
This is a chance for 1.6 / Source / Cod / BF3 / TF2 / Quake players to form into 1 community
I can see many 1.6 players, Source players and some Call of Duty (4) players making the move, but the communities are not going to go together as one in some kind of magical way. I don't think we'll see many BF3 players, TF2 players or Quake players making the switch, though.
Many communities combining
They will hardly combine. Some will switch. The communities will still be there.
Companies are going to see a huge opportunity to make some good money by hosting big events.
I don't know what kind of companies you speak of, but they rarely make "good money" or any money at all by hosting big events.
ESEA probably wont pick up CSP
I agree. Then again, it would come down to the community and the plans of the developers.
Because its the only possible chance of keeping FPS games alive.
I disagree. FPS games are doing good, but people seem to think that the whole genre is dying and that supporting CS:GO is "our last chance."
Valve is working with Many former Pro players to help make the game suitable for ALL Communities.
I find this a bit exaggerated. Sure, they've had some input, but let's not blow it out of proportions. They, like any other video game development company, have their own agenda. I'm not holding this against Valve or Hidden Path Entertainment.
I do, however, hope CS:GO changes for the better so that it'll be viable for competitive play and hopefully have a place in the top circuit of events. It'll be an interesting couple of months to come for sure!
I can see many 1.6 players, Source players and some Call of Duty (4) players making the move, but the communities are not going to go together as one in some kind of magical way. I don't think we'll see many BF3 players, TF2 players or Quake players making the switch, though.
Many communities combining
They will hardly combine. Some will switch. The communities will still be there.
Companies are going to see a huge opportunity to make some good money by hosting big events.
I don't know what kind of companies you speak of, but they rarely make "good money" or any money at all by hosting big events.
ESEA probably wont pick up CSP
I agree. Then again, it would come down to the community and the plans of the developers.
Because its the only possible chance of keeping FPS games alive.
I disagree. FPS games are doing good, but people seem to think that the whole genre is dying and that supporting CS:GO is "our last chance."
Valve is working with Many former Pro players to help make the game suitable for ALL Communities.
I find this a bit exaggerated. Sure, they've had some input, but let's not blow it out of proportions. They, like any other video game development company, have their own agenda. I'm not holding this against Valve or Hidden Path Entertainment.
I do, however, hope CS:GO changes for the better so that it'll be viable for competitive play and hopefully have a place in the top circuit of events. It'll be an interesting couple of months to come for sure!
"I disagree. FPS games are doing good, but people seem to think that the whole genre is dying and that supporting CS:GO is "our last chance."
I disagree, FPS games are in a horrible state. 1.6 was the biggest, and that's gone down the drain. Source has been gone for a long time now. Same with Quake, Cod and all other competitive FPS games. They simply have not been on the grand scale that they should be, the scale that games like LoL and Starcraft are on. CS:GO has the potential to push FPS over the edge into that kind of boundary, in which case, it is in fact maybe not our "last chance" but one of the very few chances we will get.
I disagree, FPS games are in a horrible state. 1.6 was the biggest, and that's gone down the drain. Source has been gone for a long time now. Same with Quake, Cod and all other competitive FPS games. They simply have not been on the grand scale that they should be, the scale that games like LoL and Starcraft are on. CS:GO has the potential to push FPS over the edge into that kind of boundary, in which case, it is in fact maybe not our "last chance" but one of the very few chances we will get.
i say if we can have everyone cooperate and adapt to playing GO we might have a chance to get this game close to what 1.6 used to be.
FPS games are doing great, but not in the competitive circuit, in the events we've been used to throughout the years.
Even then I believe that a game needs a healthy competitive circuit to be "alive" so to speak. A healthy array of tournaments broadcasts the game to viewers around the world, thus it's spread like an idea.
Community wise its great i love it But you have to remember why were all here, to become something in this game and have fun while were doing it, And watch LEGENDS duke it out in epic battles. Which we can barely watch now we have to wait 3 months for the next big event?
We are all here to play the game. Leave your world full of "money" and winning events. Why should anyone leave the game he like to game which is worse (said by many who lure ppl to switch). If you don't play CS 24/7 and make "money" by doing it, it's actually up to you what you play.
Well to the first remark im speaking off of what i see in the NA scene i see a quantity of BF3 / TF2 / And Quake players making the switch and coping with it pretty well, and on to the second remark if we can all cope with it and adapt as i said before their might be a chance to have a good sized community. And by what i mean companies making a name for them selves or money, ive been in contact with a few people who host console lans and ive been working on trying to get alot of monthly CS:GO Events going throughout the US and if we can make it more successful have big events. And on the remark of Valve helping out, Volcano has been tweaking maps to have a more fluid type game play. And he stated that he's been working with valve on trying to make this possible.
Overall the switch was hard from 1.6 to GO because it resembles source so much But i can openly say that im better then most experienced Source players in GO.
Overall the switch was hard from 1.6 to GO because it resembles source so much But i can openly say that im better then most experienced Source players in GO.
Sorry i'm not agree man, 1.6 was on the scene for 12 Years it's just enormous. They released CSS in 2003 and we never saw it on the top of a scene. Look at this special one... CSGO? Valve just want to compete Call Of Duty/BattleField but it's the B I G F A I L E V E R! BECAUSE COD/BF ARE A LOT BETTER........ YOU WILL SEE...
VALVE KNOWS 1.6 GAMEPLAY IS SOO GOOD. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY DON'T THEY KEPT IT.. F*****G IDIOTS.
STARCRAFT 1 -> SAME GAMEPLAY : STARCRAFT 2
COUNTER-STRIKE -> CHANGE GAMEPLAY??? WHAT THE FUCK, WE WON'T PLAY A GAME FOR THE NAME IT'S STUPID LOL
Post edited 2012-08-07 19:43:48
VALVE KNOWS 1.6 GAMEPLAY IS SOO GOOD. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY DON'T THEY KEPT IT.. F*****G IDIOTS.
STARCRAFT 1 -> SAME GAMEPLAY : STARCRAFT 2
COUNTER-STRIKE -> CHANGE GAMEPLAY??? WHAT THE FUCK, WE WON'T PLAY A GAME FOR THE NAME IT'S STUPID LOL
Post edited 2012-08-07 19:43:48
Yeah source was a failure because when it was in beta Game was horrid and they barely worked on it, Now after having 1 Successful Game *1.6* and 1 Semi failure *Source* They have a stable basis of what the community wants and are willing to work with players to try to satisfy both points of views each community has on the game.
I agree with you. I won't play for the letters in the name of the game.
the only thing 1.6 and GO have in common is the title. valve isn't concerned with making a good game, they're concerned with making money.
and money they make with making the game acceptable for brainless masses.
and money they make with making the game acceptable for brainless masses.
Yep Money is everything But why wouldn't they help us out if they can make MORE money and we can be satisfied.
because the terms "quality game" and "a massivley popular game" kinda contradict themselves.
Wrong.
Quality Game: CS 1.6, Quake, Dota, LoL, etc... (I only play 1.6 of these)
Massive popular game: MW3/BF3 and this shit.
So...true.
Massive popular game: MW3/BF3 and this shit.
So...true.
So 1.6 was never massively popular?
LoL isn't massively popular?
Right..
LoL isn't massively popular?
Right..
I don't know world wide, but talking about Europe, in Italy no one knows nothing about this 2 games.
Because Italy is the e-sports capital of the world right.
Very funny.
Wait...
Not.
Wait...
Not.
I wasn't trying to be funny in the slightest.
Italy isn't known for producing professional e-sports teams.
Either way LoL and 1.6 are/were two of the biggest games on the planet. Just because people don't know about them in Italy doesn't mean they aren't well-known.
Italy isn't known for producing professional e-sports teams.
Either way LoL and 1.6 are/were two of the biggest games on the planet. Just because people don't know about them in Italy doesn't mean they aren't well-known.
Either way LoL and 1.6 are/were two of the biggest games on the planet. Just because people don't know about them in Italy doesn't mean they aren't well-known.
Counter-Strike is the most played FPS of all time.
No they're not, otherwise they would have just created the game without asking for any feedback, there would be no beta and we'd all have no say in how the game turned out.
You could not be more wrong.
You could not be more wrong.
im not talking to you because you suck. bye
Was about to say what nate exactly said But he said it before me so yeah refer to his post =P
They're asking for feedback to make the game even more widely acceptable.
However, they wil never ever take into consideration what the 1.6 community really wants the game to be - which is basically 1.6 without stupid bugs and with better graphics.
Why? Because quality doesn't bring them money.
However, they wil never ever take into consideration what the 1.6 community really wants the game to be - which is basically 1.6 without stupid bugs and with better graphics.
Why? Because quality doesn't bring them money.
Yeah but you gotta understand this games still in BETA, and Volcano being a former 1.6 player and MOST accomplished source players played 1.6 so they have an understanding of what we BOTH want, if we can say something together with a large community we can hopefully have events like 1.6 did in 06 And if anyone has ever been to a lan you all know what i mean by having those good and bad memories at lan. Preparing for that 1 final match or that whole day, the countless hours you spent with your teammates the jokes you said to each other. My first Lan was probably the best moment of my eSports Career, And all im trying to do is try to keep it alive in some way.
The game goes out in two weeks, i don't there will be any great changes.
Anyways, i refuse to play a shitty game just because they called it counterstrike. If you choose to do differently, than so be it.
Anyways, i refuse to play a shitty game just because they called it counterstrike. If you choose to do differently, than so be it.
support!
+1 GOvno
dude the game will be out in 2 weeks, wtf you think they will change in 2 weeks of beta? the whole game ? the game sucks now and it will suck when it'll be released. stop dreaming about communities getting together cuz it won't happen, WE ( 1 .6 players ) hate fucking cs:go cuz it's a shitgame made for brainless 14yo kids. At this point i prefer having a dead pro scene at 1.6 but a massive community and a vaste age-pool rather than playing with kids on a fkin new game in lan. get serious.
+5793267
Because 1.6 is not the perfect game maybe?
Lol you're obviously mature and intelligent.
I have read a few posts of yours and by my standards you are a moron. And i don't have the energy to talk to morons atm.
I hope that clears it up for ya.
Post edited 2012-08-07 18:41:00
I hope that clears it up for ya.
Post edited 2012-08-07 18:41:00
No justification whatsoever of my idiocy, yet you blindly post incorrect facts and then call me stupid?
So I'm a moron by YOUR standards, but I'm fairly sure that regardless of what game people play, if they see this conversation we've had, they'd know exactly who the idiot is.
So I'm a moron by YOUR standards, but I'm fairly sure that regardless of what game people play, if they see this conversation we've had, they'd know exactly who the idiot is.
Im not obligated to justify my opinions to you.
Also: what other people think is kinda irrelevant since this conversation is between you and me.
You decided to say "youre totally wrong" and i decided to reply "whatever" with further clarification that you seem to be an idiot and im not in the mood for idiots.
Now i don't know what your problem is. Except if you have the need to feel superior by imposing your beliefs on me but i really doubt that.
Also: what other people think is kinda irrelevant since this conversation is between you and me.
You decided to say "youre totally wrong" and i decided to reply "whatever" with further clarification that you seem to be an idiot and im not in the mood for idiots.
Now i don't know what your problem is. Except if you have the need to feel superior by imposing your beliefs on me but i really doubt that.
"Im not obligated to justify my opinions to you."
Because you can't, because they're based off off of something that doesn't exist, you're just calling me an idiot to get me off of your back, because you probably know you're wrong. You've jumped on the "WE HATE CSGO!!!!111" bandwagon with no evidence to back it up.
The conversation is on a public website, it's for EVERYONE to see.
I justified why you were wrong, at least I can back up what I say, when all you tell me is "you're dumb"
My problem is you calling me dumb, I wasn't aggressive with you, I simply told you that you were wrong. People have been giving me trash because I'm seventeen, but I can always back up my opinion with facts.
You however, when proven wrong, simply resort to saying "you're a moron" as a child would do. :)
Because you can't, because they're based off off of something that doesn't exist, you're just calling me an idiot to get me off of your back, because you probably know you're wrong. You've jumped on the "WE HATE CSGO!!!!111" bandwagon with no evidence to back it up.
The conversation is on a public website, it's for EVERYONE to see.
I justified why you were wrong, at least I can back up what I say, when all you tell me is "you're dumb"
My problem is you calling me dumb, I wasn't aggressive with you, I simply told you that you were wrong. People have been giving me trash because I'm seventeen, but I can always back up my opinion with facts.
You however, when proven wrong, simply resort to saying "you're a moron" as a child would do. :)
All i really did is that i told you i didn't want to talk to you and stated why i didn't want to talk to you.
Now you can go on and try to analyse my soul if you want. If that leads you to a conclusion that im childish and judgmental and generally stupid than so be it, i have no reason to try and change your mind.
Btw: ofc everyonce can see this conversation, but their opinion of either of us is completely irrelevant in relation to this conversation.
Now you can go on and try to analyse my soul if you want. If that leads you to a conclusion that im childish and judgmental and generally stupid than so be it, i have no reason to try and change your mind.
Btw: ofc everyonce can see this conversation, but their opinion of either of us is completely irrelevant in relation to this conversation.
Crysis 2 also had beta, and it's still a shit game like MW3 or BF3.
Crysis 2 wasn't made for competition.
I was making an example of a game, competitive or not, it doesn't matter.
Anyway, GO looks like a copy of BF, it's just a game you play randomly in the afternoon when you have nothing to do, as Skaven says the common thing between CS 1.6 and CS:GO is the title and the crosshair.
Post edited 2012-08-07 19:22:36
Anyway, GO looks like a copy of BF, it's just a game you play randomly in the afternoon when you have nothing to do, as Skaven says the common thing between CS 1.6 and CS:GO is the title and the crosshair.
Post edited 2012-08-07 19:22:36
If you think that the "name and crosshair" are the only things that GO and 1.6 share, you have not played GO.
btw the default crosshair in GO is actually different from 1.6, just a heads up because I know for sure you haven't played it now. So please don't talk about it.
btw the default crosshair in GO is actually different from 1.6, just a heads up because I know for sure you haven't played it now. So please don't talk about it.
Well said.
if (Counter-Strike 1.6/Counter-Strike Promod)
else
NO Valve gaming anymore !!
if (Counter-Strike 1.6/Counter-Strike Promod)
else
NO Valve gaming anymore !!
GAME BLOWS, THATS THE END OF IT. THANK YOU
+1
im up for promod though.
im up for promod though.
Only way promod would work is if esea supports it and thats IF lpkane would drop the funding for it.
We did pretty well without the ESEA for 13 years (lol that's almost your age). The ESL will pick up CSP and if enough people play it, we will see further support.
Didn't read sry, because there is thousands of morons like you.
The amount of people bumming ProMod now is actually sickening, considering this very community despised it a while back, and when there was a show match on, managed to DDoSS the server that was hosting the show match.
Many people in this community have this theory that Valve are throwing money at tournaments to drop 1.6 and promote CS:GO, hell some people seem to think that Valve have thrown money at Organisations to drop 1.6 and get their teams to play CS:GO, I mean really?
Some of the Pro-Players from 1.6 who are now switching to CS:GO including get_right and neo (despite Neo's claims that LoL was a better game than CS:GO) has still not helped 1.6 community stop hating the game.
Just because the game is slightly different doesn't make it a bad game, people seem to think it's like CoD or Battlefield, the problem is comparing it to either of those games is incredibly wrong, especially if you have played those games at a competitive level.
Still whatever happens, happens, and if 1.6 players want to get left behind then that's their call.
Many people in this community have this theory that Valve are throwing money at tournaments to drop 1.6 and promote CS:GO, hell some people seem to think that Valve have thrown money at Organisations to drop 1.6 and get their teams to play CS:GO, I mean really?
Some of the Pro-Players from 1.6 who are now switching to CS:GO including get_right and neo (despite Neo's claims that LoL was a better game than CS:GO) has still not helped 1.6 community stop hating the game.
Just because the game is slightly different doesn't make it a bad game, people seem to think it's like CoD or Battlefield, the problem is comparing it to either of those games is incredibly wrong, especially if you have played those games at a competitive level.
Still whatever happens, happens, and if 1.6 players want to get left behind then that's their call.
go on cadred ty, leave this site.
As what I remember, cadred is a website with some retard troll moderator right?
yeah they were the guys that posted the news about gtr and f0rest getting on an cs:go team :D
+1 and 90 % of csgo haters here didn't even playerd csgo.They hate it because of some youtube videos.I personaly think that csgo will be a sucsess when it come out with last update.
"The amount of people bumming ProMod now is actually sickening, considering this very community despised it a while back, and when there was a show match on, managed to DDoSS the server that was hosting the show match."
1. It's so wrong to make a whole community responsible for the idiotic behavior of one guy. In Germany the 1.6 EPS matches get DDoSS-ed very often but I never heard anyone making accusation towards the CSS community.
2. In Germany it was the exact opposite: The 1.6 community always cheered for CSPromod and the CSS players showed nothing than hate towards CSP.
At the end I just hope everyone will give CSP and CS:GO a try and decide by himself which game he likes more. If everyone would do that CS could have a bright future.
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1. It's so wrong to make a whole community responsible for the idiotic behavior of one guy. In Germany the 1.6 EPS matches get DDoSS-ed very often but I never heard anyone making accusation towards the CSS community.
2. In Germany it was the exact opposite: The 1.6 community always cheered for CSPromod and the CSS players showed nothing than hate towards CSP.
At the end I just hope everyone will give CSP and CS:GO a try and decide by himself which game he likes more. If everyone would do that CS could have a bright future.
Post edited 2012-08-07 21:25:28
this one is blind. i bet you believe in heaven and hell also. how old are you and do you even have a real job? get left beind? i'm glad i'm not on board of the cs:go train in the first place. lil source kids is why the cs1.6 community goes ape shit in the first place because of your nonsense.
you come here and tell us how cs:go is going to succeed and are so optimistic about a half-ass video game and think it will succeed because it has tournaments and pros from 1.6 moving to it. we get that you source kids hate 1.6 and is happy that 1.6 is finally losing it's mainstream title and i applaud you. not because 1.6 died due to it being a bad game, but it's inevitable for the game to die because it's just a video game. but don't try to feed us bullshit about a game we don't like.
our theory about valve killing off 1.6 is somewhat true. what valve is doing is a very old technique called marketing. how else are they going to promote the game to new and current customers. and usually with marketing, it goes in parallel in killing off another game. in this case, they're marketing cs:go in hopes to get everyone on board. thus in the end, killing off 1.6/source. you can't sell something in a competitive market without being competitive.
you think they do this for fun or for free? they invest a lil money and hope in return that lil kids like you will buy the game for $15 because of the media hype. and kids who looks up to "pro 1.6 players" will obviously follow the pros because they are in love with them and tbh are probably going to turn gay.
valve can easily make a better game than 1.6 and make 1.6+source players happy and charge the game $50 and i'm sure everyone will buy it because it will actually be worth playing. but no. they can't and they won't. if i was in charge of valve, i wouldn't because it will be dumb for me to do so since i will limit my company to market only to the 1.6/source players.
with cs:go, they are trying to expand their market by getting the cod/bf3 kids on board too. get it kid. this game will start off big at first, then in 2 years it will die away because it sucks ass.
you better get on board csp because thats the game that will rule all. valve wants the community to make a competitive game to OUR liking because we are small fish. and thats just another business practice. let free-lance game developers develop a good game and once (if) it's popular, buy it and try to sell it as well. free money for valve again without having to pay someone salary + vacation time + health insurce, etc.
thats why they wouldn't dare to help csp. if they do, they will lose money by hiring a group of people to develop a game too much like 1.6. their market will only be 1.6 players. like many ppl said, why play csp when you have 1.6 let alone buy 1.6 with better graphics if we don't care about it in the first place. thats why valve will be a trampire and wait for csp to get popular and swoop up on it.
but csp will take over because it's free, competitive, and has all the elements that makes a great fps game great. once csp is out, the community will split, but sooner or later, csp will slowly be more popular because it's more competitive and mature.
and you can't really compare csp 1.08 to that show match in csp 1.04. i hear csp 1.00-1.04 was developed by an old team. the current new team is responsible for csp 1.05-1.09 which only took 2 years i believe. still took some time, but who cares when everyone at the time was still in love with 1.6. now its' a different story.
cs:go is for whinny whimpy kids who sucks at fps and wants an easy game to own other kids and talk shit because in real life, they are too afraid to man up and talk shit in someones face. they do all the raging with a keyboard and mouse. most gamers are just nerds and geeks behind a computer screen.
you come here and tell us how cs:go is going to succeed and are so optimistic about a half-ass video game and think it will succeed because it has tournaments and pros from 1.6 moving to it. we get that you source kids hate 1.6 and is happy that 1.6 is finally losing it's mainstream title and i applaud you. not because 1.6 died due to it being a bad game, but it's inevitable for the game to die because it's just a video game. but don't try to feed us bullshit about a game we don't like.
our theory about valve killing off 1.6 is somewhat true. what valve is doing is a very old technique called marketing. how else are they going to promote the game to new and current customers. and usually with marketing, it goes in parallel in killing off another game. in this case, they're marketing cs:go in hopes to get everyone on board. thus in the end, killing off 1.6/source. you can't sell something in a competitive market without being competitive.
you think they do this for fun or for free? they invest a lil money and hope in return that lil kids like you will buy the game for $15 because of the media hype. and kids who looks up to "pro 1.6 players" will obviously follow the pros because they are in love with them and tbh are probably going to turn gay.
valve can easily make a better game than 1.6 and make 1.6+source players happy and charge the game $50 and i'm sure everyone will buy it because it will actually be worth playing. but no. they can't and they won't. if i was in charge of valve, i wouldn't because it will be dumb for me to do so since i will limit my company to market only to the 1.6/source players.
with cs:go, they are trying to expand their market by getting the cod/bf3 kids on board too. get it kid. this game will start off big at first, then in 2 years it will die away because it sucks ass.
you better get on board csp because thats the game that will rule all. valve wants the community to make a competitive game to OUR liking because we are small fish. and thats just another business practice. let free-lance game developers develop a good game and once (if) it's popular, buy it and try to sell it as well. free money for valve again without having to pay someone salary + vacation time + health insurce, etc.
thats why they wouldn't dare to help csp. if they do, they will lose money by hiring a group of people to develop a game too much like 1.6. their market will only be 1.6 players. like many ppl said, why play csp when you have 1.6 let alone buy 1.6 with better graphics if we don't care about it in the first place. thats why valve will be a trampire and wait for csp to get popular and swoop up on it.
but csp will take over because it's free, competitive, and has all the elements that makes a great fps game great. once csp is out, the community will split, but sooner or later, csp will slowly be more popular because it's more competitive and mature.
and you can't really compare csp 1.08 to that show match in csp 1.04. i hear csp 1.00-1.04 was developed by an old team. the current new team is responsible for csp 1.05-1.09 which only took 2 years i believe. still took some time, but who cares when everyone at the time was still in love with 1.6. now its' a different story.
cs:go is for whinny whimpy kids who sucks at fps and wants an easy game to own other kids and talk shit because in real life, they are too afraid to man up and talk shit in someones face. they do all the raging with a keyboard and mouse. most gamers are just nerds and geeks behind a computer screen.
Some of the stupidity of your post actually makes me cry. Yes I do have a life and yes I do have a job, I am a Manager at a supermarket. What difference does it make if I play games and browse the eSports website to what I have going on in real life?
Still calling Source people kids when the maturity of this site including yourself is actually sickening. And the fact you have written a long post which lets be honest went no where in your argument, it wasn't a clear and concise argument does not make you mature, it just makes you a waffler and not being able to make a good point.
If I had more battery life on my phone I would go into very detailed points but I don't have the luxury of time here.
Still calling Source people kids when the maturity of this site including yourself is actually sickening. And the fact you have written a long post which lets be honest went no where in your argument, it wasn't a clear and concise argument does not make you mature, it just makes you a waffler and not being able to make a good point.
If I had more battery life on my phone I would go into very detailed points but I don't have the luxury of time here.
you can't be serious.. and i'm the immature one? i don't go on websites pulling shit out of my ass and trying to help market a dumb game and tell ppl to jump on before it's too late.
Have you seen what you wrote? Or should i break your heart and really tell you every single detail as to why you are wrong.
go ahead gumpster. while you're at it, blow me.
CSGO is bad and you should feel bad .
Well said Japanese comrade.
-People play what they like, that's how things happen.
-People don't play the game for the competitive scene, but for their own satisfaction and fun. If the players enjoy playing GO they will simply do it, if they don't they simply won't do it.
-What is fun and interesting to you can not to be for other players.
-One of your "FACTS": Most of the people who comment saying its a bad game probably didn't even play a PUB.
No. Most of the people who comment saying it's a bad game probably simply did not like it. I did not start to enjoy playing 1.6 after the first time I played a PUB, but since the first time I opened the cs(it was in a LAN with my friends).
-People don't play the game for the competitive scene, but for their own satisfaction and fun. If the players enjoy playing GO they will simply do it, if they don't they simply won't do it.
-What is fun and interesting to you can not to be for other players.
-One of your "FACTS": Most of the people who comment saying its a bad game probably didn't even play a PUB.
No. Most of the people who comment saying it's a bad game probably simply did not like it. I did not start to enjoy playing 1.6 after the first time I played a PUB, but since the first time I opened the cs(it was in a LAN with my friends).
And People dont play for the competitive scene then why are you here? This site portrays every competitive aspect of CS 1.6 And you come on here to do what? Watch the matches right? so that means you have some sort of intrest in it.
i cant even have a proper debate with any of you. im talking about CS:GO people criticize it without even trying it.
i cant even have a proper debate with any of you. im talking about CS:GO people criticize it without even trying it.
Yes, I come here to watch matches, read news, watch highligth movies and discuss about subjects I find interesting.
You can't have a proper debate because as most of this community you don't want to discuss, you state your facts and hope everybody agrees with you, if they don't you repeat what you already said before and keep with this endless discuss where nobody accepts the other's point of view and even understand that people can see the same things in different ways.
You can't have a proper debate because as most of this community you don't want to discuss, you state your facts and hope everybody agrees with you, if they don't you repeat what you already said before and keep with this endless discuss where nobody accepts the other's point of view and even understand that people can see the same things in different ways.
So wait your saying your here for a competitive aspect aswell right? because in the other post you made you said people enjoy it for just the game. And i cant have a proper debate because half of you guys are idiotic trolls who just babble random shit.
I have been trying CS:GO few weeks ago and I told my friend that this shit isn't even worth to have a try.
play other games, i allways played quake and Starcraft, and now starcraft2 is very good future, its damn fun too if your into strategy. csgo just sucks, only 1.6 was really special.
Thats if your into strategy, Please tell me who wants to go from FPS to strategy? with GO we have a chance to keep the Counter Strike name alive in the eSports world if not we would just be forgotten.
i like owning opponents, anyone who is good thinker can play good in starcraft. 1.6 was the best, but GO is just a piece of shit honestly, lets stop pretemding, its okay if cs dies if Go is the only option i rather see cs legacy end on the spot than playing a bad game.
its ok? id be fine if CS died in 09 when it was still famous now its just diminishing its name, no 12 years this , no best game that etc etc
not shure what youre trying to tell me, i dont undesrtood so well.
but what i say: i dont like csgo. its ok if no other version of cs gets taken in pro tournaments. cs1.6 was the only good cs version. either its cs1.6, or no cs at all imo. if csgo gets accepted in pro circuit, i wouldnt care less, i think i sucks ass. i rather play quake or SC2
but what i say: i dont like csgo. its ok if no other version of cs gets taken in pro tournaments. cs1.6 was the only good cs version. either its cs1.6, or no cs at all imo. if csgo gets accepted in pro circuit, i wouldnt care less, i think i sucks ass. i rather play quake or SC2
don't forget CSProMod
But in the end, I love how you guys try to predict the future, saying what we have to do, what is good, what is bad, what has potential to become big, how much we have to play to start enjoying a game...
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You jump to conclusions and im not saying what we HAVE to do im stating facts on what would happen IF we do it. You can continue playing 1.6 No 1 is saying or forcing anyone to switch and the idiotic comments just get annoying. Say something reasonable or don't comment at all
"im stating facts on what would happen IF we do it."
I think you don't know the meaning of "fact", it's something undeniable, in this case something that WILL happen no matter what.
Since nobody here can see the future, I think that what you're stating here are not facts but predictions.
And yes, I know it's annoying to read someone making a joke with you and disagreeing with almost everything you say, it's anoying to me reading blogs and threads about subjective opinions saying what "will" happen instead of what "can or could" happent.
I think you don't know the meaning of "fact", it's something undeniable, in this case something that WILL happen no matter what.
Since nobody here can see the future, I think that what you're stating here are not facts but predictions.
And yes, I know it's annoying to read someone making a joke with you and disagreeing with almost everything you say, it's anoying to me reading blogs and threads about subjective opinions saying what "will" happen instead of what "can or could" happent.
I dont know the meaning of a FACT? Everything i stated i can prove with comments/posts from the people who said it.
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Post edited 2012-08-07 20:38:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNTFQoIvrpY
Thanks You, Gooseman! Valve should take some lessons from this man
Post edited 2012-08-07 19:55:43
Thanks You, Gooseman! Valve should take some lessons from this man
Post edited 2012-08-07 19:55:43
And the updates you guys were waiting for!
http://news.esea.net/index.php?s=news&d=commen..
Flashbangs Reduced, Walls more spambale, Smokes are more clear now. And you guys were saying?
Post edited 2012-08-07 21:38:41
http://news.esea.net/index.php?s=news&d=commen..
Flashbangs Reduced, Walls more spambale, Smokes are more clear now. And you guys were saying?
Post edited 2012-08-07 21:38:41
so wrong-.-, fps genre is not dying Call Of Duty and Battlefield are like the top selled games in the world. and we seriously dont give a fu*k about cs:go for what i see it will be an fail, the game is cr*p.
ESEA = coming back in eruope any they are supporting 1.6...
they have appointed lerpis to be the ambassador and organiser... lerpis it the most support of 1.6 player there is
he will help :)))
they have appointed lerpis to be the ambassador and organiser... lerpis it the most support of 1.6 player there is
he will help :)))
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltwk84wEov1qbvov..
Why can't you just stop posting about cs:go & future ?
Why can't you just stop posting about cs:go & future ?
just because u dont like GO it doesnt mean that its a bad game LMAO
I played it, and its not CS, it has nothing to do with CS. Does valve trying to get us to play CS:GO? Yes ofc, its business for them, they use all the machinery needed to get people to play, even tho people dont like it. If u ask me, I dont like to be forced to do something just cuz its good for someone elses interests. If cs:go was a good game, most of the people would welcome it, especially cuz everybody would like to see something new. But not new at all costs. CS:GO turns out to be NEW at all costs. Hope valve will stop being hungry for money at some point.
ever occured to you that valve is working hard to balance csgo and make it a good game?
i highly doubt they would manage even if they try it, and i also doubt they are even trying it.
they won't...
You're too young and without experience in gaming. /close.
I won't play GO,because it's Source 2 with additions. I made a mistake when i bought source,i wanted to try source and just wasted my money in 2008. So i won't waste 9$ or 15$ for a shit. P.S i played only 3 hour of source since 2008. But i played cs 1.6 for 16854 hours. So feel the difference. I have been playing cs for 7-8 hours every day,i enjoy the game till nowadays and can't live without cs and i don't think it would be the same with GO,it's as horrible as source. Not for competitive level and not for fun and enjoy. Who need it?...
kids who played cs for 6 years and 15 years old.
And the funny thing is ive acomplished more then you chedel.
you didn't get out of your chair br0 =)
LOL,you are kid and i played cs for 9 years and i 25 year old,dude
And what are you trying to say? i played for 6 years won about 2k total and you played for what 9 years and won 300$?
Go and talk with kids,dumbass. The end.
People should know they're weak because blogs/posts/opinions persuade and convince them to change their own opinion and liking. Information is good, you refer to information, research it, implement it and come to a logical conclusion.
If you're switching to CS:GO from CS 1.6 because you have played both of them and enjoy CS:GO much more than you did CS 1.6, then it makes sense.
If you have played both the games and like both of them but your liking towards one is more than the other then: play the one more than the other.
Point is, how many of you play for money? I presume the chances are slim to none. If you do, think about your career and make a logical decision. But if you're an amateur gamer and like FPS games. Think with your head. Don't let posts like 'Sponsors dropping CS' affect you. Because that doesn't apply to you. What difference does it make? If the sponsors drop 1.6 how is that going to affect the few hours of gaming you do everyday? Did you like f0rest because of 1.6 or vice versa. How does f0rest switching to CS:GO make a difference to you?
I haven't played CS:GO, I don't hate it, I don't love it, I don't have an opinion. I played Source for a few days and I didn't like it enough to play it again. I have just bought CS:GO, I will play it soon, if I HATE it like I hated Source, I won't play it. If I like it more than 1.6, I will switch to CS:GO and still play 1.6 when I get a chance. If I don't like it as much as 1.6 but still enough to play it. I'll play it when I get a chance but play 1.6 predominantly.
To sum it up, don't be convinced so easily, try it out yourself and make a logical decision. No, FPS games are not ending, no where near ending. Yeah, I agree competitively they might not be as big as they were but there are always dips and rises. CS:GO is not your 'only hope' don't make it sound like it's the end of the world. Nobody fucking cares. It's just a silly game like any other game, your life is not going to end, even if it does. Nobody cares. Just play both the fucking games if you like them. The time you spend on them should be reflection of your liking. Fucking simple!
Post edited 2012-08-15 16:26:18
If you're switching to CS:GO from CS 1.6 because you have played both of them and enjoy CS:GO much more than you did CS 1.6, then it makes sense.
If you have played both the games and like both of them but your liking towards one is more than the other then: play the one more than the other.
Point is, how many of you play for money? I presume the chances are slim to none. If you do, think about your career and make a logical decision. But if you're an amateur gamer and like FPS games. Think with your head. Don't let posts like 'Sponsors dropping CS' affect you. Because that doesn't apply to you. What difference does it make? If the sponsors drop 1.6 how is that going to affect the few hours of gaming you do everyday? Did you like f0rest because of 1.6 or vice versa. How does f0rest switching to CS:GO make a difference to you?
I haven't played CS:GO, I don't hate it, I don't love it, I don't have an opinion. I played Source for a few days and I didn't like it enough to play it again. I have just bought CS:GO, I will play it soon, if I HATE it like I hated Source, I won't play it. If I like it more than 1.6, I will switch to CS:GO and still play 1.6 when I get a chance. If I don't like it as much as 1.6 but still enough to play it. I'll play it when I get a chance but play 1.6 predominantly.
To sum it up, don't be convinced so easily, try it out yourself and make a logical decision. No, FPS games are not ending, no where near ending. Yeah, I agree competitively they might not be as big as they were but there are always dips and rises. CS:GO is not your 'only hope' don't make it sound like it's the end of the world. Nobody fucking cares. It's just a silly game like any other game, your life is not going to end, even if it does. Nobody cares. Just play both the fucking games if you like them. The time you spend on them should be reflection of your liking. Fucking simple!
Post edited 2012-08-15 16:26:18
Hmm if CS:GO isint the only hope i sure as hell know Promod isint then what is? Your just another englishman writing a wall of text trying to prove nothing.
Did you even understand the post? What do you mean hope? Hope for what? Seems to me you translated the entire post and came to some very different conclusion. You haven't understood a word, clearly.
Hope for FPS Games bro!
What? Please do me a favour and read the post again before you post anything again. Otherwise do NOT reply.
Nah to lazy bro
i hope that esl die and esea will be future in 1.6 also in europe, that will be great
esea isnt gonna pick up pro mod..... y do ppl keep saying this. ESEA already said they wont pick it up
Okay here's my point of view.
I've been playing CS since nearly the earliest version of it. (it was free to download online when I started.) I think CS:GO can be decent but it really depends how the patches lead, what they lead to, and how they optimize or make the game worse. That being said here is a concise argument as to why the game isn't fit for a title like CS 1.6. My main point? It's simply to early! The game is young and isn't even the finalized version of CS yet according to things I've heard. Many updates to go and a whole game to make. Remember though, valve has something to prove with this one. This game is going to be valves red headed step child after a year or so but the updates and feedback wont ALL be ignored.
Aside from the main point we as "1.6ers" have TIME. CS 1.6 hangs on a thread now. Doesn't mean you have to stop playing just means you can choose to play a newer game. NOTE: 1.6 is well through maturity and the only reason the game got where it is, is because of a few things really: 1. A dedicated following. 2. A high active and involved community but this is also a double edged sword you see. Valve has to be willing to take everything we tell them and put it to good use. 3. An active competitive scene was emerging.
Does CSGO have all those things? Surprisingly, yes. The rest is on valve to get the ball rolling. If they fail I doubt they will ever FOREVER EVER remake and revive an aging community on both sides. Source isn't exactly a young game anymore either.
The state of the game is in "limbo" because no one knows right now how valve will make the next move. I felt it was a step in the right direction but we all know that 1.6 is the superior game and years of competitive play backs up this claim. 1.6 is widely known not only to 1.6 players but communities who don't even play FPS games. We and SC:BW are the grandpa's of competitive exports. Can't forget quake as well!;) but your grandpa is about to die. Will his grandson be better than his first born child(source) I think it's got way more potential than source. We could have no where to call home in an FPS genre right now. I'm not saying switch to CSGO I'm saying stand behind it to make it better for everyone involved source, 1.6, cod. Whatever. I've been a huge CS fan (besides source) for a long time. I think valve has made it quite clear they've shift their focus here. You do t have to switch today but don't comment about the game without giving points of feedback. The more voices about one thing( like movement ) the more likely we'll be heard.
Get off your high horses people. It's a game, not a cult following. You can hate it or love it. But there's no doubt that 1.6 didn't get where it is today because of a community that cared and was involved through the entirety leading to the release of 1.6 in 2003 I believe it was. The game had been around for a little over 4 years already at that point.
4 freaking years!!! 4 years of CS before it really got big. 1.5 was when it was turning into something huge( it basically already was pretty big) then 1.6 it exploded. It's 2012 now. The game took 4 years to get to the release of 1.6. That's not exactly a short time to mold the perfect game. You guys are just way to quick to judge a book that doesn't even have all the pages written for it yet.
I've been playing CS since nearly the earliest version of it. (it was free to download online when I started.) I think CS:GO can be decent but it really depends how the patches lead, what they lead to, and how they optimize or make the game worse. That being said here is a concise argument as to why the game isn't fit for a title like CS 1.6. My main point? It's simply to early! The game is young and isn't even the finalized version of CS yet according to things I've heard. Many updates to go and a whole game to make. Remember though, valve has something to prove with this one. This game is going to be valves red headed step child after a year or so but the updates and feedback wont ALL be ignored.
Aside from the main point we as "1.6ers" have TIME. CS 1.6 hangs on a thread now. Doesn't mean you have to stop playing just means you can choose to play a newer game. NOTE: 1.6 is well through maturity and the only reason the game got where it is, is because of a few things really: 1. A dedicated following. 2. A high active and involved community but this is also a double edged sword you see. Valve has to be willing to take everything we tell them and put it to good use. 3. An active competitive scene was emerging.
Does CSGO have all those things? Surprisingly, yes. The rest is on valve to get the ball rolling. If they fail I doubt they will ever FOREVER EVER remake and revive an aging community on both sides. Source isn't exactly a young game anymore either.
The state of the game is in "limbo" because no one knows right now how valve will make the next move. I felt it was a step in the right direction but we all know that 1.6 is the superior game and years of competitive play backs up this claim. 1.6 is widely known not only to 1.6 players but communities who don't even play FPS games. We and SC:BW are the grandpa's of competitive exports. Can't forget quake as well!;) but your grandpa is about to die. Will his grandson be better than his first born child(source) I think it's got way more potential than source. We could have no where to call home in an FPS genre right now. I'm not saying switch to CSGO I'm saying stand behind it to make it better for everyone involved source, 1.6, cod. Whatever. I've been a huge CS fan (besides source) for a long time. I think valve has made it quite clear they've shift their focus here. You do t have to switch today but don't comment about the game without giving points of feedback. The more voices about one thing( like movement ) the more likely we'll be heard.
Get off your high horses people. It's a game, not a cult following. You can hate it or love it. But there's no doubt that 1.6 didn't get where it is today because of a community that cared and was involved through the entirety leading to the release of 1.6 in 2003 I believe it was. The game had been around for a little over 4 years already at that point.
4 freaking years!!! 4 years of CS before it really got big. 1.5 was when it was turning into something huge( it basically already was pretty big) then 1.6 it exploded. It's 2012 now. The game took 4 years to get to the release of 1.6. That's not exactly a short time to mold the perfect game. You guys are just way to quick to judge a book that doesn't even have all the pages written for it yet.
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