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Counter-Strike: GO - A Source players perspective
2012-09-13 00:14
Hi, firstly I will introduce myself I am Richard "ritch" Gibbs an ex-professional Source player. I retired from CS/CSS a while back and have been looking at the new CSGO. I played for teams such as eSAHARA, London MiNT, Crack Clan & 4Kings in CS:S. My favourite CS game is 1.6, but I also enjoyed my time at CS:S.

So, after watching a few streams of "official" qualifying games over the past few days I've decided to make a blog, about my opinion of CS:GO, remember, thats what it is, my opinion. I also had a beta key for CS:GO and played it a bit before it was released, and I've played it for a few hours with my ex-team mates in mixes/scrims last week.

The first thing I want to say about this game is - it was released too early and I am disgusted that this is what an FPS game has become and it should have been held back a long time. People are just hanging onto the hope of the future of CS and are forced to play it because it is the only FPS game of "Counter-Strike" that is alive right now. The main thing I notice from playing the game instantly is, that this game is not Counter-Strike 1.6, it is not CS: Source - it is not CS all together, all they've done is made a game and called it the same name. The similarities are small or just not there at all.

The aiming system, the recoil, the guns are abysmal. I would rather have Call of Duty guns than what we have been given in CS:GO, the guns have a 'pattern' okay, tell me what you want, but whether a pattern is there or not, the gun behaviour, the enemies models behaviour is completely wrong for a "Counter-Strike" game.

The maps are terrible, the colours in the game are terrible, the player models are terrible. I'm sorry but there is not much to like about this game. There are many updates that need to come, but should have already been here, I don't see a future personally for CS:GO unless something major changes.

You can also all sit there and tell me that the game is good once you've been playing it for a while etc. But as soon as you come across opponents from games such as BF3/Brink/Call Of Duty - you will lose, because the game is made for people who don't need to think, or do anything other than buy a shotgun/p90 and strafe all over the place and hold mouse1.

I am ASTOUNDED at the amount of people who CLAIM they like this game, especially the 1.6 players who have come from a game which was far superior to this.. CS:GO is an embarrassment to the Counter-Strike name. Even Source was better than this and although I played Source, I didn't think it was a great game or better than 1.6, but GO is much worse and far from a working game..

The only way GO will stay alive is if tournaments pump money into it, but I am honestly believing that this game will not last more than 6 months, or until the first few tournaments are over, the other scenario I believe that may happen is the CS players will stop playing all together and all that will be left are the noobs that came over from other games because the game is made for them, it is like a multiplier for retards, the worse you are at the game the better you are, I don't even begin to understand what anyone was thinking when this game was created.

Feel free to flame me, feel free to do what the hell you want, but if you think CS:GO is a good game, then you need a huge wake-up call.



EDIT: Ok, after playing for another total of around 2 hours, another major terrible addition to this game is..

The reward you get for not having good aim. Everytime a bullet hits you your aim goes mental and flies around the screen.. so, for a player who just aims for bodyshots, or who is strafing and randomly firing it is to his advantage to just do that and you can't do anything about it.. so you're rewarded for either A) panic aiming b) being a moron.

That is another HUGE reason as to why this game is noob friendly, people who actually aim for headshots will be punished most likely it seeems.


EDIT 2: Nice update guys, they're really putting hard work in, over that 2 weeks, really worth it. :)))
As you said better than n0thing!
2012-09-13 00:20:22
by: sIPOS
#4
+1

Post edited 2012-09-13 00:25:10
2012-09-13 00:24:58
by: uNd
#5
that's right ritch, +1! and for the "progaming cs:go scene", i think that all the orgas and the event organizers made a mistake supporting it so early, cause i dont see any interest except for those pros and other players who are planning to attend their events. Seriously, new generation players dont like this game, 1.6ers dont like this game, maybe a small piece of the cs:s community like it, but they proved in the past times that they dont care about competitive level. So, who the hell did they made this game for?
2012-09-13 00:33:38
Exactly, your last few sentences sum it up..

"Seriously, new generation players dont like this game, 1.6ers dont like this game, maybe a small piece of the cs:s community like it, but they proved in the past times that they dont care about competitive level. So, who the hell did they made this game for?"

2012-09-13 00:35:51
1.6 players will never like another game except 1.6 so I would never count on them to like CS:GO. Maybe it is impossible to make a game `as good as 1.6`. But on the other hand, you have to be open to (some) change.

About the source players, yeah well they at least shifted once to a new game, and most of them will probably shift to CS:GO or quit cs altogether (I think).
2012-09-13 00:40:41
I am open to change, for sure. I would love a new Counter-Strike.. BUT this is a random game that has used the name Counter-Strike.. for example lets take the movie Total Re-Call..

The new remake of that movie, does NOT need to be called Total Re-call - but it was an easy way to make money, right? :)
2012-09-13 00:42:12
well said..this game is indeed a diddly-squat..:)
2012-09-13 15:51:01
by: uNd
#19
well, italians do not like the way pizza and pasta are cooked in other countries, ask you why.
2012-09-13 01:04:31
I identify myself as a "1.6er." I really loved CoD:WaW though. Unfortunately the game doesn't have a pro scene.

Also, there is overwhelming evidence to prove the contrary to your statement, such as the substantial number of people on this forum who have started playing GO.

Stop with the hyperbole, it already got old back when Source was released.
2012-09-13 12:24:49
a game as good as 1.6 is CSP.
2012-09-13 13:22:12
Directly from CSP Faq:

CSPromod (CSP, for short) is a 100% custom-coded Source engine modification. Its goal is to bring the gameplay, feel, and competitive spirit of the original Counter-Strike to the Source engine, along with improved graphics and new features.

Basicly CSP is cs 1.6 with better graphics, you can't call this another game.
2012-09-13 15:19:57
It would be a update rather than a new game.
2012-09-14 07:27:51
+1 mate !
2012-09-13 21:53:45
If this game has recoil just like 1.6 does I'll play it. CZ was good, 1.3 was, why new CS won't be good then?
2012-09-13 21:18:03
I dont get why CS:CZ failed. Or maybe i do. It was released in a time where it was really really NOT needed. If they released CS:CZ now with improved graphics of course NO 1.6'ers would have a problem with it and the sourcers might come. Basically what im saying is.

VALVE MAKE 1.7 instead of CS:GO
2012-09-13 21:55:39
ritchie from youtube?
2012-09-13 21:47:01
i don't know what that means, but i usee the name ritchje and ritchiedrama on youtube
2012-09-13 22:33:40
maybe you are reffering to the chinese professional player ritchie :)
2012-09-14 01:58:48
I've also played it both in beta and alpha stage, the game is simply put - terrible. It does not resemble either CS 1.6 or CS:S in terms of gameplay. I'm not even sure which game could it be compared to since there is not a single FPS game as bad as CS:GO on the market at the moment (talking about big names, not random dev's trying to make a few bucks).

IMO, this game lacks a lot of changes to be able to compare itself with CS 1.6 or CS:S, and I hope Valve acknowledged that and plan to do those changes in the near future.
2012-09-14 00:45:25
well he's right, i'm sure pro players who say they love it are lying,they play to cs go for the money.
We all know this game is terrible and won't last long.

Moreover even if valve injects 1.6 million dollars in the international,they'll notice low amount of viewers + no spectators = FAIL.

Post edited 2012-09-13 00:40:40
2012-09-13 00:39:53
Yeah it will be embarrasing for valve. I cant wait for it
2012-09-13 21:56:37
BF3 - tanks, jets, copters, huge maps, better graphics
CS1.6 - aiming the crosshair and recoil feels fast and right, so does the player movement










CSGO - chickens
2012-09-13 00:40:09
hahahaha
2012-09-13 21:56:53
This + your nick = flawless combo!
I did laugh, gj mate
2012-09-14 20:21:03
i like cs:go

So call me maybe?

Another person who's mad because he can't play the game properly
2012-09-13 00:51:30
he's way better than u, do you know his achievements on css ?
2012-09-13 00:52:55
This isn't CS:S.
2012-09-13 00:55:02
Whatever...

He can still own at least 5 semi-pro players

Post edited 2012-09-13 01:11:35
2012-09-13 01:02:16
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#20
Take it easy. Thank you.
2012-09-13 01:04:55
I'm taking it easy, I think...

I am, at least it's what I think :X
2012-09-13 01:06:33
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#24
Then there is no need to call anyone names, is there?
2012-09-13 01:10:12
The change has been done --'

I hope you are happy now

Post edited 2012-09-13 01:13:12
2012-09-13 01:12:57
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#34
Shouldn't we all? ;)
2012-09-13 01:19:09
https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/9/9d/Lel.j..

We should... I think :x

There's people who don't deserve attention

Post edited 2012-09-13 01:37:48
2012-09-13 01:33:07
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#283
Well, it is you who decides who deserves your attention by replying to them, don't you?
2012-09-13 23:06:08
In your dreams perhaps. Team Alternate's CSS-team couldn't even beat Alternates female 1.6 team..
2012-09-13 18:10:45
Dont underrestimate females! They have the boobs they have the power
2012-09-13 21:58:09
But they're horrible at CS. I could assemble a team in 5 minutes that'd rape em' easily.
2012-09-13 22:09:05
In what game? CSS? Please bro. We both know the outcome in 1.6 and CSS but you cannot know the outcome in CS:GO. I dont see why you see source players inferior... they just chose to play a different game.
2012-09-14 17:47:24
In 1.6.
2012-09-17 22:12:56
really? =|
2012-09-20 23:25:46
I was being ironic i mean... they play css, not 1.6 lol. those girls played everyday for like what? 6/7 years? its completely normal... css guys would rape them hard in css as well lol
2012-09-21 00:12:15
Females hold a very, very low level in CS 1.6 tho. #17 stated that he could own atleast 5 semiproplayers just because he is good in CSS, which is in fact not true at all.
2012-09-21 09:16:09
So what? CSS is completely different from 1.6, no wonder the females would beat them..
2012-09-21 11:59:20
Why did you drop your comment #348?

Post edited 2012-09-21 12:03:03
2012-09-21 12:02:56
what?
2012-09-21 12:34:32
A guy said that a CSS-player easily was better then a couple of semiplayers, I proved that it wasn't the case.

Have that in mind and then read comment #348 and #407 and you'll understand that your acting strange here.
2012-09-21 12:43:28
What the fuck dude.

From #348:

" We both know the outcome in 1.6 and CSS but you cannot know the outcome in CS:GO."


What i said was, CSS guys win in CSS and 1.6 guys win in 1.6, what were you expecting? Css guys who probably never played 1.6 in their lives to win against a team that plays 1.6 everyday? wtf... even verygames would lose vs a amateur team in 1.6, but i dont see nothing wrong there, they dont play the game so...

you are the one acting strange, i never said css guys would beat them in 1.6. think you idiot
2012-09-21 12:47:43
you are terrible, shut up
2012-09-21 05:47:57
It isn't Counter-Strike at all, people are saying don't compare the games, but why not? It has the Counter-Strike name.. of course people will compare.


Congratulations on the money you raised, if its you I am thinking of.
2012-09-13 01:11:40
You need to not only compare the games though, compare the respected markets at the times of the games. CSGO is released in to a CoD dominated world, hence why it looks and feels 'CoDy.' The guns shoot differently, not badly, SMGs are more powerful, because valve wanted every weapon to have it's place, and not make the game the standard AK/M4/Awp + Deagle.


Thank you, it is me, if you're speaking of the 24hour DM :)
2012-09-13 01:15:58
Disagree with everything you've said.

CoD dominated world? Hello?

The guns shoot badly.

SMG's are more powerful than the M4 and the AK - in terms of the way they can be used.

Another professional player (GuardiaN) has agreed with me down below, do you believe we're both wrong?

The game is made for noobs.
2012-09-13 01:17:02
;p.. im reading those comments from randoms and i am sorry to say that, but why are they talking to us, when they wont attend any big event? .. im just wondering how can they talk to us about gameplay or something like that.. they are playing it for fun, like other FPS games including quake, l4d, far cry etc so we could expect replies like this.. they dont care about gameplay, for them gfx and high resuliton is enough, so blogs like this are waste of time unfortunatelly. Yes, guys its fun to play for fun but its awful to play it competitively. Ive liked much more CSS in my times like this bullshit, feel free to flame me(the community here)

Post edited 2012-09-13 13:10:58
2012-09-13 13:07:17
+1 guardian. nice to see someone else smart in this forum.
2012-09-13 13:25:05
Yeah, well, thats the way it is, lol. It sucks I agree, but I just felt like people needed to hear this, because the game is beyond bad, I played it some more last night and really, really, is bad.. lol
2012-09-13 15:16:54
I agree with you in everything you said, except you playing CS:S, source was a really bad game that should've never been produced or at least taken to competitive level, it was like a 7-years-ago-CS:GO-attempt, aimed for people with a lot less skill than 1.6... Exactly like CS:GO, i'll eventually change because I'm forced to. Nothing else. N1 Valve.

And BTW, people say we should give it time because it's new.. Wtf, if it's new then pick another name, If you call it the same it means its an evolution, a better product, something made without commiting the same mistakes... You dont just release whatever you've got and then say "yeah give me another 2 years to make a decent game".. Wtf

Post edited 2012-09-14 12:05:03
2012-09-14 11:57:17
Source was fine, 1.6 was just alive at the time. I will always defend Source, even though 1.6 was better - Source was fine.
2012-09-14 15:08:23
+1
2012-09-19 08:35:42
WTF u on about? Who was the one who was crying all over Valve forums, creating special groups, website and shit screaming "Fix source". You such a lying bitch its shocking. You said that Valve fucked up Source with updates, now u changed your mind? I tell you something, like i can respect opinion of others, i do not believe in any word you say. All what you do is whine. Just shut up already, or at least sick to what you said b4, and dont lie.
2012-09-23 14:01:30
Yeah, it was fine, before it was updated, hence why I said Source _was_ fine. Are you stupid?
2012-09-25 00:19:44
"im reading those comments from randoms and i am sorry to say that, but why are they talking to us"


Excellent
2013-02-07 17:00:19
Its funny a source player comments on games made for noobs though
2012-09-13 13:12:26
Yeah, because that is definitely the point. I prefer 1.6, I was a better 1.6 player than you. It doesn't matter though, that isnt the point of any of this.
2012-09-13 15:16:16
Lol u werent even playing pcgames when i was cb 1 kiddo :)
2012-09-13 23:26:22
I guess what he ment was that CoD dominated the casual player world. Even Valve stated themselves that CSGO is not made for competitive play.
2012-09-13 15:20:51
So why is the word competitive splashed across some of the menu's and WHY are people treating it this way? 1.6 and Source were doing just fine. I don't care what people say about tournaments dropping games, and pickinng CS:GO up, they WERE doing fine.
2012-09-13 15:24:01
Maybe because a game can be competitive even if it´s not e-Sport title?

I think the pro players that switched are doing it because CSGO killed the CS 1.6 pro scene.

Personally i think it´s a terrible game.

I was only stating previously that CoD dominated casual players world and Valve made a new game to target the same audience.
2012-09-13 15:53:21
Hmmm what a bullshit? Point me out where Valve said, it is not made for competitive games? I can point you out within 10 seconds on google search where Chet Fliszek or other Valve developers stating that CS will be for both, Causal and Competitive.
2012-09-23 14:06:22
Lol... famas, scout, usp, glock, g3, dualies, mp5, galil at pro level...

On semi-pro level players use aug, both sg's, tmp, ump45, shooties...

And you say that the game is based on only those 4 guns??

2012-09-13 01:20:14
What the hell are you talking about? Nobody uses dualelites on pro level, also no Mp5. Well maybe Kapio xD And its just trolling if TMP ump45 or shotty is being used, its not worth it to buy these weapons in 1.6 (or css I believe). On the other hand SIG and AUG are actually used on semipro/pro level.. if you got a huge money advantage it can be worth it to buy these weapons on some maps. They have very good accuracy also in 1.6 :)
2012-09-13 02:34:17
He maybe means in CS:GO there duals is true power^^
2012-09-13 20:46:14
the only thing why are they using guns like p90, duals or g3 is the money system for each kill. I hope they will nerf it and noone will use these items (talking about CS:GO)

Post edited 2012-09-13 13:08:43
2012-09-13 13:08:22
Dude... he's another pro player saying the truth!

This game just sucks...

Doesn't deserve being a Counter Strike game...;

It's more like Chicken Strike...

Post edited 2012-09-13 01:06:53
2012-09-13 01:05:05
and just because he's a "pro" everything he tells is true?
2012-09-13 12:49:35
And he said the truth dude...
2012-09-13 15:51:34
Hey, I just went to play CS:GO on a friends account, I can play the game fine, it just isn't Counter-Strike, sorry you feel this way.
2012-09-13 01:10:59
I don't play Source very much... Only do surf maps and zombie mod normally and I do some 5v5, like 1 or 2 per month...

I'm not gonna say it's a competitive game, cuz it is but I don't think it's not so good for that...

But I'm 100% sure that I would prefer to play Source competitively than CS:GO...
2012-09-13 01:16:44
I also believe that 1.6 players, if they took Source back to 2010 before the horrible update, or even Source now - if they were forced to play Source, they would prefer it over CS:GO - I am fairly sure of it.
2012-09-13 01:18:18
I think the updated "killed" a lot of players ina professional level...

Some still play but not as sick as they were used too :C...

Post edited 2012-09-13 01:23:56
2012-09-13 01:23:40
After the Source update in 2010, the old Pro players most of them hated it, they ruined the game with the server tickrate update etc and just the game got worse performance etc, it was a mixed bag, some people liked it more, some people hated it, but definitely better than CSGO :D
2012-09-13 01:24:55
i have to disagree on this. disagree hardly. i am 1.6 player, and, in a way, we were forced to play sorce even back than. everyone were saying that's it for the 1.6, when the source came out. but that wasn't it ... the thing was that the pro sceen of 1.6 was really rich, and strong, and there was no need for the pro players to switch games. so, 1.6 stayed the official game at almost all big tournaments, and so the non-pro players were allowed to play the game.

now, the things have changed. 1.6 is allmost dead. theres nothing new in the game for a very, very long time (except tuscan and mirage, and that still isn't widely accepted), the graphics were low, so there is nothing intresting no more for old players, as well for new players.

go isn't an emarrassment for the counter-strike name. it has way more to do with cs 1.6, and earlyer, than source ever had. and it definitely isn't a noob game. it still needs a lot of brains, and skills to play it on a descent level.


Post edited 2012-09-13 02:00:39
2012-09-13 01:57:08
What are you basing CS:GO needing brains off? It requires nothing.. it is run and gun, move left and right with a P90 and kill stuff.. it is Left 4 Dead without Zombies. 1.6 was alive when Source came around, and was always going to survive because it wasn't 12 years old at that point, if 1.6 was dieing, then Source would have been much more of a success.. I don't want to get into an arguement, or an insulting spree, but I played CS:S at the HIGHEST possible level.. and I can tell you, that CSGO does not need lots of "brains" and skill to play at a top level, there is no top level, it's just rubbish.
2012-09-13 02:00:24
Dont need to feed him...

Just another kid that prefers graphics > playstyle

Post edited 2012-09-13 10:33:43
2012-09-13 10:33:29
"there is no top level"

Say that to NiP... at least the game has a strong enough top level to create consistant results.

Any explanation behind that?
2013-04-15 17:16:02
There has been several updates since 2012, buddy.
2013-04-15 17:16:28
CS:GO is an embarrassment to the Counter-Strike name.
well said...
+1 to your blog
2012-09-13 00:53:28
I completely agree with you. Valve has pushed this in every CS player's face saying that it is important for esports etc etc. Its w*nk - no words to describe it.

I see it as L4D under a CS title and game mode.
2012-09-13 00:56:54
L4D guns are better than the ones in CSGO :) - not even a troll, haha.
2012-09-13 01:12:18
True, exept for the deagle...
2012-09-13 01:27:18
actually L4D has a very good recoil pattern and you can play easily!! i played it like 5 mins to get used to the game hahah
2012-09-14 02:00:54
+1 ritch.. as cs16 and css player I can just say that this game is far away from css and cs16... In other way, as player(sniper)- AWP lost its strength, smgs are much more stronger than each gun in this game. Yes, these things are updateable and i hope they will bring back my lovely CSS or cs16 awp :-* IMO, cheers
2012-09-13 01:04:03
Hey mate, how are you? :)
2012-09-13 01:10:16
ah fine, just pissed off coz of CS GO :D miss my awp :(.. and how are u?

Post edited 2012-09-13 01:53:11
2012-09-13 01:52:03
I'm good mate, just chillin with Fifa :D haha
2012-09-13 01:54:50
It's really ridiculous how random close range AWP battles now are. Just crouch and hope the bullet goes straight... its retarded. But then again quickzooming would make the AWP really strong in this game because the models are all so huge.. (compared to the map)
2012-09-13 02:36:40
u r right.. fastzooms were removed in CSS, that was fine, but in CS GO are removed too + the zoom is awful..
2012-09-13 02:56:20
"CS:GO will be bigger then 1.6"
2012-09-13 01:08:18
Agree with everything.
2012-09-13 01:21:30
It's the worst version of official cs there is but its all we have, I don't enjoy playing it but its ok to watch :)
2012-09-13 01:22:53
Why do you NEED a version of CS? It's better to have none than have this. You dont NEED cs in your life.
2012-09-13 01:23:54
I prefer play TF2 , Quake , UT instead of CS:GO ( I regret buying it, I want my money back Valve!!! )...



2012-09-13 01:26:46
Hell yeah!

Quake 3, Quakeworld, QuakeLive, UT99, UT04, Painkiller, Warsow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CS:GO
2012-09-13 01:49:17
+1337!!!! add wolfenstein ET there :D
2012-09-13 02:04:18
Quake 3 > CS 1.6 and CSS, tbh
2012-09-13 21:07:36
I don't need to watch anything but I enjoy it, why the fuck do you care so much anyway? You wont play it or watch it so go do something else with your time instead of wasting it writing these blogs and complaining about it everywhere.
2012-09-13 01:31:59
So actually tellin the community that the game is Bs**t its wrong???well well well
2012-09-13 01:44:46
The community can make their own opinions surely?
2012-09-13 10:59:26
I'd like to play a game that was suitable for competitive play, though.
2012-09-13 01:55:28
it's not all we have, the number of people that play 1.6 is still the highest, and who knows what will happen when a decent version of promod comes out
2012-09-13 13:26:55
seriously?? people still believe in csp???
2013-04-15 12:09:56
sry, didn't see the date of your comment....
2013-04-15 12:25:25
:P
2013-04-15 12:50:45
Game needs some updates and that's it.. Hope Valve listens to us players about missing things.
2012-09-13 01:23:27
Don't hold your breath, it will never be like any version of CS/CSS
2012-09-13 01:25:10
They will make useless updates just to cheer 10/12 ol'kids :C
2012-09-13 01:27:36
+1

like hats and chicken on all maps xDD
2012-09-13 11:12:20
Ohhh... I bet there will be some players similar to those of TF2 hat maniacs :X
2012-09-13 11:15:11
What makes you say that?
2012-09-13 03:11:33
Past experience of talking to them.
2012-09-13 03:20:55
It will never be CS/CSS that's right, but it will improved
2012-09-13 03:29:23
We'll see!
2012-09-13 03:45:00
Ye lets go back in time to beta aim in 99 and improve from there. get a grip. the game fkn sucks and will never be good.
2012-09-13 08:55:18
+100000
completely right in my opinion.
2012-09-13 01:25:37
Just disconnected the bum bum stream rofl.. players owning each other with uzi's tmps, these are the things which i hate the most... they do so mch freaking damage
2012-09-13 01:30:12
Yeah, it's pretty nasty.
2012-09-13 01:58:05
by: hohi
#53
Fairly good blog post. I gotta agree that it is not Counter-strike. If you rename CS:GO to some other name that does not include cs, it would be a decent new game but right now, it's just not counter strike. The skill cap is really low and like some pro player said (I don't remember who) if you dm everyday it won't matter and won't make you way better than others like in 1.6 or source. I think the only people who are switching at the moment are the competitive css players (not pros) but those who fancy 5v5 in ladders etc and of course the pros. I think I may have gotten off the main point however this is just my opinion that cs:go is not counter strike a game where you need to put in hours and hours to be the best. Still hope for CS:GO to succeed though.
2012-09-13 01:43:39
Respecting your lines and even if many agrees with some of your points - i dont think to many of those allready devoted "goers" will take your opinions that serious (at this stage), while your playtime is poor/barely existing(?).

Give the game a slight? chance to breath fair air for at least 2 or 3 months before putting it under the mainstream *hltv.org*-guillotine.

..or at the other hand its a free world for you to do the heck you wanna, but along with those updates/new maps, CS:GO will just only improve. You cannot change that.

1.X is one of those Legendary and cornerstone e-Sport titles, but for sponsors - the ones who makes the real sense its "pretty" far from up to par, at least in this time we living in(apparantly its not 2005/2006 anymore).

Suppose you are running a company (present time & forward) marketing some of the latest cool *high-tech* products with a monter at a exibitionhall - the tournament is about to have its launch. You are so "thankful" your items along with that company-brand of yours is being exposed along with a cartoonish semi-tetris game...
oh wait, think i must e-bay some of that logic sense, (or what's it called) before i can understand where such vital money shall arrive from..? fingers crossed that it'll rain mana from heaven.. _- , or ?, ye'..

And btw, same destiny goes out to Legend e-Sport titles like WC3 and BW - far from globally competitive wide spread games these days, even in South Korea, Brood War have come to an absolute close at the biggest and long serving stage.

Sure these games will be played for X amount of time still, but with a different approach compared to what it once looked like - same story for 1.6. Ofc it will not just die like that all of a sudden, but its time to accept the change and the will of sponsors (those who eventually decide) and take the final step down from the fps-throne.

For those who are bound addictive to 1.6 movement etc and cant accept different recoil patterns and so on, just have to cross fingers for CSP to come up huge, or just join a good ole 1.6 public server, breath some gaming nostalgia and dream back to the days. The glory days of 1.X those wich never will come back.

2012-09-13 01:47:41
I've had plenty of play time, enough to discuss what I've written about.
2012-09-13 01:57:04
Plenty of time sounds so defined and legit, and with that absent mind always strictly refering and comparing everything with CS 1.6.

Yeah, daTs rly some greeet feedback of d00m.
2012-09-13 02:05:03
OK, you're not making much sense.
2012-09-13 02:06:35
In this case I can sense "plenty of time" is nothing compared to what's considered giving the game a fair chance by real standards.

Post edited 2012-09-13 02:14:27
2012-09-13 02:14:02
I had the beta for months, I've played plenty of CS:GO since its been released. Plenty of time.
2012-09-13 02:14:52
Yes you had the BETA(!!) for months, wow. The actual release been out for like - not even 3 godamn weeks.

Face it, your playtime is nothing and zero compared to the absolute best topgamers devotion to the game like f0rest, GTR etc who actually IS giving the game a true competive chance. Since they are talented enough to addapt - they now finds it fun.

2012-09-13 02:27:19
What are you talking about? The beta was released without an update. I tested the game thoroughly and have played with and against f0rest and get_right, they are nothing special in this game. Stop.
2012-09-13 02:33:36
Ppls like you just wont let the game have a fair chance to improve both with new features/-updates and growing rivalry, at majors, in terms of letting the best teams across the globe encounter at tournaments like ESWC and Dreamhack Winter, etc before putting it under your guillotine.

Its true, f0rest and GTR are not among the very best yet like (the former CS:S-player) friberg to name one, but far superior most nonamers like you for example. From a game like 1.6 (wich differs more from GO than CS:S) they will only increase in skill ,not least as a team (NiP with highly talented Xizt aswell) since they are - at this very, very early stage fair enough to have an open mind and not stricly comparing it with former titles like you.

Post edited 2012-09-13 03:04:00
2012-09-13 03:03:03
So you've called me a nonamer and friberg superior? you are clearly the biggest troll, ever. Please stop posting.
2012-09-13 03:08:58
f0rest, GTR and Xizt is way above your gamingtalent, wether you cries about it or not.

And yes, friberg is among the very best GO-players out there.

"biggest troll" you say(?) Go cry the world another (mad) ocean and stop playing CS:GO and make sure to use that "anti GO-filter" in future.

Post edited 2012-09-13 03:16:44
2012-09-13 03:16:13
lol, I couldn't care less what he is at GO, he is a noob at CSS and 1.6.
2012-09-13 03:21:32
You are very much aware friberg is a topnotch GO-player, and now you cries about it.

poor - poor ..

Over % Out!
2012-09-13 03:27:21
No-one is a "top notch" GO player, there is no such thing, the game is disastrous.
2012-09-13 03:44:49
... the game has enough of a skill ceiling to have a team consistantly win without any variable (lucky) loss since release.

How can you account for that?
2013-04-15 17:26:31
I am assuming you're either a) retarded b) poor attempt to troll c) if neither, go read my reply to you a few minutes ago, peace.
2013-04-15 17:27:54
nice fail with "Over & out!"
2012-09-13 03:46:24
lol, he already begged you to stop posting; and for a game realeased for no more than 3 months, its pointless to name anyone as "topnotch player"
2012-09-13 09:11:00
Why should he stop posting?^^ If its "to early" to lable any player as topnotch in CS:GO then its obviously also way to early putting it beneth the guillotine. You just look stupid man, Rly.

Not wanna disappoint you but most who is quite into the CS:GO scene rekognizes friberg as one of the most skilled, even at this early stage.
2012-09-13 09:33:06
ok im stupid, but what are you?replying me dont even know what Im talking about, or laughing at, lol. #86 ritch already said" please stop posting", yet this dr_lolface continue his blablba ending with"over&out". this is the most typical die-hard troll on earth, lol.
2012-09-13 09:49:16
Maybe if u stoped complaining on here and go complain on steam forums u might get somewhere , why not make a petition in what needs to improve(releastic)and we all go and sign it?


What I don't understand is why people who dont play the game try to ruin it for others who do and want to see the game succeed. source died long ago and was never really alive.. 1.6 was declining rapidly without GO even.

So make a list of things you want improving get thousands of players to sign it and put it on steam forums and they might listen to the crowd.


And if you dont care about the game or gettin anywhere with this why even post it lol just to ruin something for someone else?

eddit *

Well if you dont care some admin from hltv (someone respected in the community)should take notes of the points we want to see implemented into the game and we sign it.


Post edited 2012-09-13 01:59:34
2012-09-13 01:55:20
I don't really care about getting anywhere, as much as I'd like a new CS to be good and competitive, I don't mind THAT much if it dies out either. Steam have never listened, I've been in contact with Valve over CS:S long before this, they are not interested.
2012-09-13 01:56:37
Don't accuse me of "ruining" something because I write a post about something. Valve do not care, HPE do not care, I know this from first hand experience. A petition will change nothing, and there is many, many, MANY changes that need to be made; of course some players will agree with some, and not with others etc.. This game was created poorly and will never be acceptable for what I at least consider competitive play.
2012-09-13 02:02:02
facepalm
2012-09-13 16:38:48
"Maybe if u stoped complaining on here and go complain on steam forums u might get somewhere ,"

Tried that. Thread gets downvoted and comments like "OMG IT'S A NEW GAME DUDE" appear.
2012-09-13 18:13:02
Yep, posting on steam forums is a joke. Any retard who makes post about how amazing CS:GO is, gets 5 stars to his thread while the people who actually care about the game and complain there, get downvoted to 1 or 2 stars.

That forum is full of noobs who have 150 games on their steam and play 1 hr of CS in 3 days and then comment on the forums as if they know everything about CS.
2012-09-13 20:12:07
http://64bitvps.com/csgo
2012-09-13 20:20:55
http://64bitvps.com/csgo

Post here your complaints, then link us here so we upvote it.
2012-09-13 20:24:14
Embedding youtubevideos didn't work even tho the site said it would. Well, here it is anyways, lets start out with the shitty movement;

http://64bitvps.com/csgo/ticket/in-air-physics-sho..
2012-09-13 21:17:59
Just post the video link and make blog/forum post about it so people see it.
2012-09-13 21:49:04
As long as they get casual gamers money making this game a good one for competitive play will be the least of their worries. Also, ppl(hltv crew) saying they will be making a @#!#!@# ton of updates to make this game good or (css,1.6 noobs)" this game is pretty good as it is" are not helping.
2012-09-13 02:02:55
Thanks God, you don't like the game !
2012-09-13 02:17:59
sad if u wont play anymore i would like to rape u on csgo like i did on css :DD
2012-09-13 02:23:13
haha shhh frog xDdDD release love u!!! kIGoR

Post edited 2012-09-13 02:23:47
2012-09-13 02:23:38
re1ease ignore me all the time i hate him he should be happy that i accepted his friend request since he is the worst cup of tea ever
2012-09-13 02:27:44
:( release love u m8
2012-09-13 02:33:49
he loves me as much as you love csgo :(

Post edited 2012-09-13 02:42:04
2012-09-13 02:38:50
I love you, at least.
2012-09-13 03:09:11
learn you css mate to use reply button please.
2012-09-13 17:26:03
Amazing blog. True words.
2012-09-13 02:46:20
i love you too m8 :D
2012-09-13 03:13:58
what valve needs to do is make a promod for this game... which has the same gameplay as 1.6... btw. how are the graphics on cs:go??
2012-09-13 03:43:47
the graphics is mw3-like.
2012-09-13 13:31:21
worse then mw3. much worse.
2012-09-13 13:53:40
doesnt matter
2012-09-13 13:54:36
...You do not want to learn
2012-09-13 04:57:47
laughed
2012-09-13 05:35:44
Excuse me?
2012-09-13 06:48:14
My friend, if you allow me to call you so, I am sure that you are a fuckin smart guy. CS:GO= money. We all lnow how good f0rest used to be at 1.6 back in the day. The best player ever in my humble opinion. And why on earth would he switch to a totally new random game? Cause he likes it? Idon't think so. He did it for the fuckin money. If you would receive an invitation to play in a very rich organisation as a cs:go player wouldn't you accept it?
1.6 is the perfect game and we all know it. Why would valve want to kill such an awesome game? I think that they will lose a lot wit GO. Why? Because they invested a lot of money in it and it won't last. It is all about money.
That is my opinion and i beg you pardon if i am mistaken.
2012-09-14 02:03:01
I probably wouldn't play CSGO in this state unless it was with my ex-team mates (mousesports) - I lost motivation for cs a long time ago.
2012-09-14 02:49:06
I really doubt it. If the wage would be good, no one cude refuse it. It's easy money, all in all.
2012-09-14 14:05:14
lololol a 800 euro per month contract would make you delete that post
2012-09-14 17:50:13
+1
worst fps ever
2012-09-13 05:56:08
Non-constructive feedback = baseless whining.
As for blog itself, it seems more like ritch is too focused on comparing cs:go with previous games and refering every different aspect in game as flaw.

Post edited 2012-09-13 07:03:41
2012-09-13 06:57:58
the professional 1.6 scene has died because of csgo, a semi-good substitute for 1.6 was something we hoped for... if csgo had been named mw4 or something, there would be no problem

i still have high hopes for promod, in a year or so.
2012-09-13 13:35:33
Why do you people NOT understand? it is called COUNTER-STRIKE, that point to me is that it SHOULD be comparable with CS 1.6 OR SOURCE or BOTH. It is like creating a new game of tennis, but using a fucking brick for a tennis racket and using a humans head as a ball and calling it tennis still, when clearly it would not be.
2012-09-13 15:21:25
You are right ritchie. However, from a my perspective: if theres a 1.6M dollar tournament and you feel like you have a good chance to win, you will try it. Just like Tico did with painkiller back in 2006 when switching from 1.6 to painkiller. He thought he could do the same as Fatal1ty.
And frankly, like you did, you said you prefer 1.6 but you started playing source.

If you have any Quake(3:CPMA for example) background, all fps will feel fairly easy. Counter-Strike doesnt need that true accurate aiming (meaning you follow the player with your aim; compare lightning gun in quake to rifle) more timing. Many pro's in CS are have good timing but not that great true-aiming. And thus, you will fail in games like CoD and GO, cause its more trueaiming since it doesnt have recoil.



My FPS preference:
Q3:CPMA = 1.3 > 1.6 > CoD MW2 > Source > GO

For players who dont know what Q3 CPMA is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiX9d_j1Xao

;D
2012-09-13 07:42:22
I think you haven`t played cs 1.6 seriously.
Anyway it`s not like terrifying pixel-accurate aim is neccesary in cs, because you can still frag by using spraying and bodyshots, however you can still archieve top level of aim and use it as your base skill in cs game.


Post edited 2012-09-13 08:16:44
2012-09-13 08:15:22
Lol i have played and competed in cs during the past 12years. Obviously u havent played cpma ever to comment such :)
2012-09-13 11:33:31
I see. Well, I wrote that because it takes pixel accuracy to aim and tap for headshots at cs 1.6, unless you`re fine with compromissing and shooting at body instead.

Normally people don`t do that, because its too risky to play this way, because it requires perfect control over mice and your movement, as well as risk losing accuracy by getting shot.
But people who have those aiming abilities, can shine at gunfights, for example, n0thing.

Post edited 2012-09-13 11:45:40
2012-09-13 11:45:17
No u dont get what i mean. Shooting headshots is easy. The only way to do it is to stay still, and most of the time you are already preaiming at specific spot no matter if you are moving or staying still, then u stop and shoot Its easy.

Now imagine bunnyhopping with 10x cs speed while keeping the aim at a guy who is also jumping up and down the map, and then turn 180deg to shoot a guy in ur back before u hit the ground. Thats everyday cpm. And btw you sound like a noob when u explain how to shoot in cs
2012-09-13 13:09:17
I don`t find any issue with following high speed without losing accuracy. What I find difficulties with is polished pixer per pixel accuracy.

Post edited 2012-09-13 13:35:07
2012-09-13 13:31:10
LoL. Obviously you cant follow highspeed if you have problems with pixel per pixel. Noob talk
2012-09-13 14:36:01
:/ You misunderstand what I mean. So I guess any further discussion is pointless, because I don`t wanna explain basics of combat efficiency between different shooting styles.
2012-09-13 16:32:41
by: ckN
#425
truestory is right
2013-04-12 19:17:12
It's a totally different way of aiming, and the models are way bigger in Q3. As someone who played since QW, initially the aiming seems a lot easier, but there are way more variants to worry about.
2012-09-13 19:44:51
I dont know what you are trying to say. Also im talking about cpma not regular q3. Cpma is a lot more fast paced, with better movement faster weapon switch, fast rail etc.
2012-09-13 23:46:38
If u dont wanna try cpma but u have CoD mw2. You can record a demo with sniping in cs then play mainly sniper in cod for a week in a row n try sniping in cs again and record demo n compare => alot easier. Aiming will feel easier too however you might have trouble to control recoil at first.
2012-09-13 11:41:12
Sniping, eh. That`s why I avoid using awp, it feels cheap. :D

Post edited 2012-09-13 11:47:23
2012-09-13 11:46:55
Pro in Quake = Pro aim in CS
Pro aim in CS =/= Pro in Quake

Face it
2012-09-13 14:55:03
by: uNd
#198
you kiddin me
2012-09-13 15:33:48
Quake is MUCH faster and aim intensive than CS

YOU must be kidding me

Mind you, i'm a 1.6 fan and not a Q3 fan

I've tried Q3 and this is what i felt

Only competitive Half Life death match comes close to Q3
2012-09-13 19:10:55
by: uNd
#265
1.6 aim is quite different from the Q3 one
2012-09-13 20:25:44
Agreed 100percent. First time i think an indian is smart :D
2012-09-13 23:54:21
"Many pro's in CS are have good timing but not that great true-aiming. And thus, you will fail in games like CoD and GO, cause its more trueaiming since it doesnt have recoil."

wait what?? that just shows how much you know... what you call "trueaiming" is an easy thing to master and cs players will do it within a month like everyone else... recoil is the hard part... always was and always will be... and quake is not hard for that "trueaiming" thing... it is the speed and speed only... speed of a game makes it hard... why is source pathetic?? because it is damn slow.. and so is GO and COD...

Post edited 2012-09-13 18:11:11
2012-09-13 18:10:16
Wow.. you're a fkn legend! Thank fuck someone in there right mind says the truth about this disgusting fps shit !
2012-09-13 08:53:07
source is way worse than csgo and source at release was a big piece of shit
2012-09-13 08:58:25
hell yes
2012-09-13 08:58:39
I have to pretty much agree with everything said and its good to know that someone else feels exactly the same (was thinking im going crazy).

Played CS since 01, moved to source later on. Not as good as CS but still playable and im thankful to source because I got to play with/against high level players that I wasnt getting the chance to in CS. Source before that last major update was still playable but Valve went ahead and fucked the game up for some reason. And now trying CS:GO it really is a joke of a game. If you think back to the early versions of CS, everyone was jumping around and even though the registry wasnt as good, it was still FUN. GO isnt fun at all, its just shit to be honest. I know there will be some money injected in the game for the first year or 2 but after that im expecting it to massively fail which is quite sad to see CS disappear until valve finally listens to the community and creates CS2 (updated version of 1.6).
2012-09-13 09:31:14
i know this will sound weird, but there are people in this world that do not want a exact copy of cs 1.6 or source.

GO is a new game, not a replica. It does not need all these updates that people want. All it needs is GO TV and we're good to go ;)
2012-09-13 09:33:54
I am or was a active 1.6 player with close to 5000 hours playing time, though I still like cs:GO.

Sure it sucks that you have to learn pretty much everything all over again. And sure it sucks to be bad all the time :P. But who cares?

I played 1.6 for so long that all was pretty much become basic. Now with this cs:GO atleast we can learn some new stuff.

Also this brings players from many different games together wich never can be a bad thing for tournaments and lans and so on.

For example in Belgium, I've already seen many oldschool gamers return aswell as some new faces.

Maybe even some extinct lans will return, who knows?

I'm allways up for a challenge so I will give it a try :-)
2012-09-13 09:55:46
1: seems like you are not enjoying cs1.6 anymore.
2: new stuff can be good or bad.
3: instead of commenting on the game itself, you only mentioned other stuff that make csgo worth a try.

4: its the game matters the most in the end. good game will become popular, and then more tournaments. the other way around, like how csgo works, its fake.

5: oldschool gamers' return is a little bit overvalued in this issue. they quitted, because time to do so, or unsatisfying disappointing performance, or want other kind of life, in other words, being outcasted from competition. not saying their return is a bad thing, but it gives no extra credits for csgo.
2012-09-13 10:47:56
1. who says that it`s impossible to enjoy cs:go as well? Especially for those who enjoys learning new things, while many players at cs 1.6 have hit theyr limits and have difficulties to find anything new anymore.
2. exatly, so don`t judge it as bad just because it`s different. You have to get used to be on level to be comfortable with those changes, only afterwards you can compare without beign biased.
3. commenting game itself? What do you mean, there are tons of things what makes a game. And as for now, most of players hates cs:go because just because it`s different and witch is why they feel uncomfortable with playing this game.
4. baseless bashing.
5. they quit each for theyr personal reasons. Don`t try to make up an stupid common reason why they quit game, like "beign outcasted from competition".

Post edited 2012-09-13 11:20:45
2012-09-13 11:18:56
sorry, I find nothing in your reply worthy of arguing.
2012-09-13 11:25:43
That`s good. I expected you to say something back, but if you understand what I mean then it`s fine. :)

Anyway, not just for you, but for everyone:
It`s only natural for this many people to hate this game, because it`s changed, despite people expected it to be more like source and cs 1.6 combined.
2012-09-13 11:33:25
+1
2012-09-13 11:30:12
hmmm belgium at cs... u had a team witch once qualified at eswc and didn't pass the grop stage...
2012-09-14 23:17:21
Yep. Thank god Romenia is so good at cs :-)
2012-09-14 23:37:00
yeah we suck at this game... wait teg did once take 3rd place at an international event :(
2012-09-14 23:42:43
TeG is good, but they didn't rape Antwerp Aces if I remember correct. And Antwerp Aces was not on the same level as DefuseKids was I think.
2012-09-15 00:35:47
+1 I kinda agreed but you should give this game some time (like 1 year or so). Can you remeber how rubish was source at the beginning? HM?
2012-09-13 11:01:02
Pretty crappy blog for a person who played professionally. You just wrote the same thing as 50% of this community without legit arguments and thats the most easy thing a coward person can do
2012-09-13 11:01:35
well, its you think it is without legit arguments, and a lot more than 50% of this community I should say.
2012-09-13 11:13:30
What the blog said was, the game isn't CS/CSS and it's bad without going into the details why it's bad.
2012-09-13 12:59:03
Totally agree, to me he seems like a troll dude.
2012-09-13 12:56:39
Lol, there is plenty of reasons as to why the game is bad in my blog, you will disagree with me whatever I say, stop being a moron.
2012-09-13 15:19:41
Well of course i will disagree with you're opinion on the game. Its not like it based with arguments or facts
2012-09-13 15:22:44
Alright smart arse, give me YOUR reasons why it is good then?
2012-09-13 15:24:24
I will not start an unnecessary discussion with an ignorant person but the tournaments who are choosing this game says a lot
2012-09-13 15:28:34
Yeah, thought so, ahahhaa.
2012-09-13 15:31:28
i bet you did
2012-09-13 15:32:23
What tournaments pick doesn't say shit, afterall WCG went Mobilegames...



A N G R Y B I R D S
2012-09-13 17:10:44
how come?
2012-09-13 19:20:08
You're talking about facts and on which facts that tournaments decided when lot of them choosed GO when it was in beta or before? seems legit.
2012-09-13 17:30:12
FUCK yeah ANGRY BIRDS > 1.6 and CS:S, right?
_|_
2012-09-13 19:46:02
+1 very disappointing blog
2012-09-13 15:58:18
Having enjoyed your little rants on Cadred and various other websites, I am very surprised to be told you are 23 years old! It's like reading a forum post on the Xbox forums by an 11 year old.

While I agree it isn't the game we need yet, it has potential to be good. As with any version of CS that has been released previously, it needs time and it needs updates. I'm personally really disappointed in it's state at release, but I'm hopeful for the future.

2012-09-13 11:12:03
I don't like CS:GO at all. Alot off players plays it just cuz it's so much money into it atm. But if they put so much money in Sims 1 im sure alot would play that aswell.
I'll still play CS 1.6. Why? Cuz it's fun, and CS:GO isnt. I give CS:GO 1 year, then it will be alot less popular than it's today. :)
2012-09-13 11:37:07
I am 1.6 player and i am not sorry for that game anymore,"cs go"change everything.I respect your opinion but community is DAMN boss!CSGO is new game(everything is new recoil,maps,tactics...)

New game means "new opportunity to be best in it",because everyone play from "zero"(0),and everyone can beat everyone.

My advice for you is : GET A TEAM AND START PLAY CS GO.

CS1.6/CS:S IS PAST!
2012-09-13 12:01:04
You cannot be the "best" in CS:GO there is no skillcap, it is a random game, with ridiculous gun behaviour, and has nothing to do with how good of an aimer you are or anything. Please.
2012-09-13 15:18:47
This.
2012-09-13 15:29:13
mad cuz not a single good saucer/1.6er wants you in their team?
2012-09-13 15:52:45
Lmao.
2012-09-13 16:04:15
I told you this on steam but yeah

I actually strongly disagree with your point of there is no skill differences (you can't be skillful at the game). That is wrong, you have people like friberg who is very very good at this game and then you have other people you see in cups and such that aren't that good. Surely that's an indication of skill differences.

As much as i love(d) 1.6/CS:S (although i never played 1.6 competitively i enjoyed it more than CS:S) i do just think you need to accept that the game is different. Its a fresh start for everybody and people who put the time and effort in to sit on deathmatch or find the flashes/smokes and what not are obviously going to succeed. Granted it is fuck annoying when you play against people from the CoD/BF scene as they do just hold mouse1 and move but you just have to adapt to it. Just use the molotovs/flashbangs and whatnot to kill them.

Overall it is a new game and people don't have to play it, if people don't want to play it then fine. The least everyone should do is treat it as a new game. Treat is as a new game and you won't find yourself getting pissed off as you aren't comparing it so 1.6 of CS:S
2012-09-13 18:59:03
Why do people keep saying friberg is good at this game? There is NO skill cap, stop acting as if there is Shane, anyone can put 20 minutes of their time into this if they were a "semi" okay player at CS in general and be good.

YOU ARE ALL MISSING THE POINT - THE GAME SHOULD NOT BE _THIS_ different it is called COUNTER-STRIKE - there SHOULD be similarities.
2012-09-13 19:57:13
+1, slot machine demands more skill
2012-09-13 21:30:11
How is that true? FFS, the gun behaviour was shit in CSS as well and that didnt stop it to make a competitive game where there are superior and inferior teams. Im sorry but i see from you is whine cause you dont have CS:GO the way YOU LIKE IT to be.
2012-09-14 17:53:47
Mo' money, mo' bitches.

"CS:GO is an embarrassment to the Counter-Strike name" This is what i think when i try to play CS:GO.

Steam/valve and Co are trying do to the same way they did with 1.6 in another game (CSGO).

2012-09-13 12:08:33
I don't know why you want the game to be like 1.6.. Its not named CS 1.6 (Better Graphics).... 1.6 was one thing, Source was another and GO is something else.. You'll never ever like this game if you keep 1.6 in mind and play.. I love 1.6, but love GO as well :)
2012-09-13 12:22:15
Have you ever played 1.6 competitively?
2012-09-13 13:55:27
Fucking yes, m8888. I agree 100%. They don't call you Ritch-The-King for nothing.
2012-09-13 12:23:16
i agree with the thinking part, I need to really think in 1.6 while in cs:go it's not like that at all
2012-09-13 12:26:46
U are right about the fact that we are forced to play go because cs is dead/dying but if this isnt worth to be called an fps game or gets published under the name Counter strike neither did source
2012-09-13 12:58:56
Thank you for putting a smile on my face for the rest of the day
2012-09-13 13:11:29
Well said.
2012-09-13 13:14:42
:D:D:D this whole blog is 100% percent trying to please people, professional or not get yourself together man :D:D
2012-09-13 13:17:23
Agreed. CS:GO sucks and I'll never play it.
2012-09-13 13:19:27
This game. really. sucks. and thats it.
2012-09-13 13:30:39
in my op , u need to get used to it , this is the new reality , this shitty game killed 1.6 , and some money monkeys , now we need to support it and try to improve it , awp is horrible OMG , de_train fucking awfull, maps are all for css advantages, pistols ARE HORRIBLE, i like the rifles now ... 1.6 is only for oldschool player , dont has the power anymore to atract new players anymore, we need to walk foward.. or to GO or CSP , but cs need a new V to can continue this saga. DONT LIKE -awp , pistols , deagle overpowered , maps (especially de_train) , saucers advantages , the movement wen u shoot some1 u hit him and he moves like (np), we must help valve to improve that game , cuz they killed 1.6 , or we save this or GG cs

Post edited 2012-09-13 13:44:49
2012-09-13 13:43:48
I choose gg cs. I dont want to bath in the cesspool. Better to choose an honorable death of the CS saga.
2012-09-13 13:47:38
Seriously, I can't stand reading this "we need to support" shit over and over again, can't you see the irony? If you feel obliged to the game, system, fps in general, you have a serious issue. If you don't like the game, don't play it, don't watch it, simple as that. I am pretty sure that there is a game out there you are going to like if you only look hard enough. Nobody forces anyone to play CS:GO.

Post edited 2012-09-13 15:21:40
2012-09-13 15:20:54
let the scene die. Call of Duty: Global Offensive is not good successor of Counter Strike 1.6 / CSS. We must wait on for true king of fps.
2012-09-13 13:44:09
Cs:go wasn't even made to replace neither of 1.6 or Source dude. Its not the games fault that tournaments are preferring the better one that is obviously cs:go at the moment rather than 1.6
2012-09-13 14:39:10
CS:GO is not better, stop talking rubbish.
2012-09-13 15:17:16
at the moment it is
2012-09-13 15:18:31
rofl.
2012-09-13 15:26:14
In your opinion.
2012-09-14 17:55:56
CS GO is better? HAHAHHAHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Make my day
2012-09-13 15:22:35
You probably can't prove me wrong but you can try
2012-09-13 15:23:40
Ok sir.

1. http://tnij.org/r4z8


BTW. 90 % of community says that the game sucks. This is something.

Post edited 2012-09-13 15:29:56
2012-09-13 15:27:18
Really? Please tell me witch is better. A community with 15k people with tournaments and a future, or a 40k community with no tournaments and obviously no future?
2012-09-13 15:30:23
Future? with 15 K? HAHAH. You realy belives that sponsors are so dumb?
2012-09-13 15:32:02
They are not dumb at all sir. Thats why 1.6 has no sponsors, or tournaments
2012-09-13 15:34:06
1.6 have no sponsor becouse its old. Time to something new and fresh. I agree with that. The problem is that the new game CS GO. Its random and i have no fun to wath it. Its boring. If low prices tournamets with 4k vievers satisfied you its ok. This game share of the fate CS/S. Another degenaration of the scene.

Post edited 2012-09-13 15:43:57
2012-09-13 15:42:40
There will be updates for people like you who played 1.6 and can't play anything else besides 1.6. The 1 million tournament if it will happen will put more than 4k views i can assure you. Source isn't even a bad game, just was released when every body played only 1.6 and didn't want anything new. And i can't see how its going to end like Source if 1.6 is out of the way
2012-09-13 15:52:55
,,There will be updates for people like you who played 1.6,,

Links plz? source? You dont have it. You are lying.

,,The 1 million tournament if it will happen will put more than 4k views i can assure you.,,

Valve do not give that kind of money for this game.



Post edited 2012-09-13 15:59:43
2012-09-13 15:59:15
I don't know what are you doing in this website if you don't read anything or don't know about Counter Strike anything. But since I'm a nice person
http://www.hltv.org/news/9056-ti3-with-1600000-for..
2012-09-13 16:03:24
,,While nothing is confirmed yet,,
2012-09-13 16:06:32
"The 1 million tournament if it will happen". Dude your bad at trolling
2012-09-13 16:10:21
you are just an idiot sir. Im wasting my time.
2012-09-13 16:12:41
Sure dude. Enjoy wasting you're time further
2012-09-13 16:20:19
key 2 letter word in that quotation "if" ure dumb if u think they will do it lmao
2012-09-13 19:14:31
you are talking about things you don't even know.



1st) Sponsors will sponsor new games
2nd) valve is putting their own money for tournaments
3rd) cs go isn't for competitive players like every1 said because there are so many things missing.
4th) when looking at your posts it seems you never played seriously on a game so you should stop arguing right away.
5th) cs 1.6 has been there since day 1 for pro gaming until now (+10 years) and you are saying a new not fully updated game is better ? i dont think so.
2012-09-13 15:43:11
I won't even bother replying something. This just says how stupid you are
2012-09-13 15:57:35
no seriously i wanna hear what you have to say ?


or are you too young to argue with me ? because your a newschooler in fps games ?
2012-09-13 16:11:33
If valve are putting they're own money into the game. That just show the support and that they are serious about it. Look how much teams switched to Go, and how much will switch and tell me more about how its not competitive. They're will be updates for bitching people like you. I don't have to play seriously to have an opinion with arguments. Its better for the tournaments right now, its not better as a game
2012-09-13 16:17:08
of course they are gonna support their game they want every1 to switch to it.

this game just came out that is all normal.

there will be updates of course but there are still alot to do.

you don't have to play seriously to have arguments of course you don't need too BUT you can not compare yourself to ritchie for example who played competitive and can tell you how good or not this game is for pro scene.

what i mean is that you are arguing but you never played seriously a game.

you are just a fun player and that is all normal you like the game, because you can not see what we can see (what is bad or not for serious playing).
2012-09-13 16:45:11
Nice comeback bro. But still you wrote the same thing as previously and don't make even a little sense. And this is a rant, he can play for 10 years i don't give a two craps about it
2012-09-13 16:50:37
that is called experience, you don't have it.

this means you don't even know shit about those games.


you need to play several years on 1.6 or css to know almost all tricks in it.

if you are some pub noob, well you should stop your arguments right away and go play cod games with grenade launcher.

Post edited 2012-09-13 18:42:44
2012-09-13 18:42:30
I played 1.6 for 4 years and maybe the same amount of years i was into esports. And saying that this game is bad is the most easiest thing to do eve for a pro player
2012-09-13 19:06:38
i think people expect too much for a new opus of a game.

When you had the new diablo and sc it was the same thing.

But when you look at cs go there are alot of things not implemented in the begining that should have been there.



2012-09-13 19:16:24
Agree with your point: the game is not that good.
And when someone says he likes the game, it should be obvious that liking the game can also mean liking the competition it brings. For me it's all about competing, and CS:GO just had a better timing than source, as 1.6 is pretty much dead.
2012-09-13 14:30:59
+1 !
2012-09-13 14:48:49
As a viewer I can say, I get used more and more to the game. Not playing CS anymore for a very long time now, so the active part doesn't bother me at all.
2012-09-13 15:25:44
+1 all GO'ers are owned by richie. This game will suck forever.
2012-09-13 15:26:48
To be good at CS:GO you need to do the following :

1. disable crouch and walk
2. Hold in Mouse 1
3. Continue holding mouse 1 while running forward,backwards, and dont forget side to side other wise known as strafing.

Its actually scary seeing a game where aim and movement was the main thing needed to be good, Now all we see is run and gunning.

Blackadder : QUIT YOUR JOB AND MAKE CSP WORK!




2012-09-13 15:41:16
youre crazy man go have a chance in the scee with some updates its still a good game not impressive like 1.6 but still a good game
2012-09-13 15:57:11
CS:GO is miles better than source. The hitboxes alone in source make it a fucking joke
2012-09-13 15:58:37
So tell me why even majority of source players shows their asses to this game?
2012-09-13 16:00:53
For same reason why they chose source over 1.6 - easier to play, lower skill cap.
2012-09-13 16:13:25
I agree, thats the reason noobs changed to source originally cause they werent good enough for 1.6
2012-09-13 23:49:25
They don't rofl, no one is playing source anymore. There all playing GO apart from a few minor players.
2012-09-17 01:25:51
No.
2012-09-13 16:14:03
Dude, if you really are a pro, or even experienced you would have to agree that GO is way better than Source.

That's why 1.6 players own the fuck out of Source players in GO

E:typ0

Post edited 2012-09-13 17:07:54
2012-09-13 17:04:30
this
2012-09-13 17:05:19
Christ.
2012-09-13 17:13:49
Buddha.
2012-09-13 17:20:20
I wouldn't say so.
2012-09-14 07:41:51
Really? Verygames rings any bells?
2012-09-14 17:57:19
by: uNd
#327
no, cs:s is unbalanced but still a better and more enjoyable game
2012-09-14 04:44:56
+1
2013-04-12 20:52:51
Does anybody remember when CS:S came out back in 2004? EXACTLY this. The same massive resistance from the community, the same whining and bitching all around. Chill out, people. It's only a game. You'll get over it soon.
2012-09-13 16:27:09
I played CS:S from the start, It was nothing like this, people are using this game for instant competitive play saying its fine as it is, it is NOT, stop making ridiculous statements, PLEASE.
2012-09-13 16:54:06
Yeah it was the crappiest game. I still remeber doing headshots with tmp and shot gun from other side of dust2 long, or strafe running and shooting at the same time. It was a fkin kindergarden game and i havent touched it since. All the noob 1.6 players started playing it too since they werent good enough for 1.6
2012-09-14 00:00:01
That just makes you like one of those players liking CS:GO now. The situation is really quite similiar, can't argue with that.
2012-09-20 13:44:16
I don't even know that what's about CS 1.6?
It's a better game (gamplay far better than CS:GO)

Why suddenly every organizers shut it down? Or why they didn't pump money into it?

They hope that CS:GO will move more people? Or?

Really don't know, why it was so necessary to switch from a good game to an unpredictable one.

Yes I know, CS:GO requires stronger hardware and with it organizers may can pick up more sponsors but to hope that this new game will make some good results in e-sports I think it's a very patethic logic.
2012-09-13 16:32:07
it is like a multiplier for retards, the worse you are at the game the better you are

Nothing else needed :) Ty great blog.
2012-09-13 16:49:51
Can't really see this as a blog (you gonna go on with this?) but pretty much agree.

After the mirable failure of Source I expected a lot, and I mean _a lot_, more from GO.

I really hope to see old 1.6 legends play again, in dota2 after GO burial by the end of the year
2012-09-13 17:01:54
valve can fuck themselves
2012-09-13 17:06:42
Valve will realize when every1 stop playing FPS game just because of promoting the cs;go and after it will fuck themselves
2012-09-13 17:11:29
Agreed. It is a shit game and after playing it solidly for the first couple of weeks I have gladly given up after waisted time. I will check the gameplay after big updates and hope for the best, but i am not convinced it will be good.
2012-09-13 18:01:11
cs:go is million times better than 1.6 get over it, look at the graphics kids
2012-09-13 19:29:49
Looks like a donkey from Saudi Arabia registered on HLTV.org.
2012-09-13 19:32:45
like i said, get over it
2012-09-13 19:49:22
and the poor one who only care about graphics not gameplay
2012-09-19 08:51:35
Hahaha. Do you really mean this? Are you compare 1.6 and CS:GO only by the graphics? You should really sit down and play CS:GO for more than a second and not only looking at the graphic.

I think you thought the same way when Source came out for many years ago.

Explain please.
2012-09-24 14:47:54
Couldn't agree more! thx for the blog!
2012-09-13 20:00:56
the worse you are at the game the better you are

Epic. :D
2012-09-13 20:02:49
Yep.
Thats what I never understood. People were complaining about CSS, which was actually a good game, it was just different to 1.6. But they are not complaining about CS:GO, which is total garbage, because it's the only game which is alive in proscene atm. But CS:GO won't last there for more then a few months because it won't have more spectators and players then 1.6 and then i'll give a big "HAHAHHAHA" to all you silly fanboys.
2012-09-13 21:11:09
and what was the w0w in your nick again? fanboy :)
2012-09-13 21:22:43
Im not a fanboy, but i know what you are and that is an idiot.
2012-09-14 17:37:50
no need to insult =)
2012-09-14 18:16:46
cs go is bad
2012-09-13 22:00:34
I'm sharing almost the same opinions with you. I have now more than 30hours for last 2 weeks in cs:go and went to play 1.6 CSDM for 30minutes. All what I was thinking about was that why the hell I have 30hours in such a shitty game comparing to 1.6. I'm not really enjoying playing it but there is just not many reasons anymore for competitive player to play 1.6, so if you are not willing to stop playing, you are forced to move into cs:go?
2012-09-13 23:24:43
Or you simply play both games if you like them?
2012-09-13 23:30:18
Ofcourse I'm still supporting and playing 1.6 'til it lasts. But as I wrote, there's not many reasons for competitive player to play it anymore. No upcoming LANs(except few ones), online tournaments, leagues etc. And noone is willing to fund a CS1.6 team anymore.
2012-09-13 23:50:12
Yes thats 100% true
2012-09-13 23:53:01
Richie has found new realms a see.

Before you listen too much to this man i suggest you check him out real good. I am not saying that he was a bad player, but he is for sure one of the biggest assholes ever spawned both on earth and any server.

Apart from few really angry posts on HLTV.org he has been part of the inventory on Cadred.org.
Continuously writing the angriest posts Internet have ever seen. If you read through his posts you will get a better picture of what this guy is about.

After being rejected time after time on all areas in life he has now to try to find some friends elsewhere. Why not write a blog bashing the FPS scene in general and a three week old game in particular. The scene who he has been so active in at least 8 years of his life.

One would expect that a guy with his history would fight for powerful words like "Unite" "Evolve" "Develop" and why not "Support"

Think of it; what has he actually achieved with this blog. Have you learned anything reading it? Did he contribute to the development of the FPS-scene? Did he make you feel better regarding the scene that you love?

Depending on where you are in life you will either; feel aroused that a person with a PRO background agrees with you that GO Sucks. OR You feel that this is yet another troll trying to score cheap points by joining the ranks of GO haters.

So as my final question; would you rather have him:

1) Keep complaining and insulting people in his blog.

2) Use the knowledge and experience of being a PRO player to do things better. Join the ranks of other devoted PRO players that ARE helping HPE/Valve atm.



2012-09-13 23:38:30
Your too wise for this site man. But the same thing is with your text, people dont learn anything about it cause their fake "hatred" towards cs:go is too large and they are too stubborn to really look what you typed. Havent ever agreeded more with anything in this forum than what you just wrote +million
2012-09-13 23:48:49
I don't hate CS:GO, I'm just not fully enjoying it. But I'm facing similar thoughts atleast what he wrote, no matter does he have a pro player background or not. I'm open-minded for CS:GO, but at this point it does not look a game for me which for I would spend many hours a week for a longer period of time.
2012-09-13 23:59:05
I think that most of us have similar thoughts regarding GO. For many different reasons. In my case i both love it and hate it. That causes conflicts in me that i have a hard time dealing with. The fact that the game is new makes me have a lot of fun playing it, since i have been playing basically just one game for the last 10 years. But all the new stuff that resets everything that i have learned the last 10 years makes me furious sometimes. I die all the time because of it, and of course i blame the game. But it is not about that AT ALL. It is about what this game has potential to become. The way i see it we only have two options to chose from. CS:GO or ProMod. Both are based on the Source Engine, so both have the exact same possibilities. well ofc we have COD and all of those, but that goes without saying on this site, that thats not what we want.

We ALL have one thing in common. It is a very powerful thing if we do things right. We love E-Sports and we LOVE Counter-Strike. Instead of boycott, hate and wanting everything to stay the same. We should come together as one and really, i mean really make a difference. Instead of acting like tree-huggers chaining themselves to the trees we should go to the Head Office.

If they don't listen then, well then we are fcked. But then we know that and we could all start supporting ProMod.

I suggest hltv creates a poll on the most wanted changes in GO and send it officially to Valve and ask them to make an oficcial statement regarding development.

THAT would be constructive, and on valves part it would sell a massive amount of games. Everyone happy.
2012-09-14 01:31:34
People with very respective and professional background have already done that and offered their help and advices for Valve how to develop the game for more enjoyable / competitive direction and what I have read/heard, Valve have not taken the opportunity.
2012-09-14 01:46:41
My point exactly!
2012-09-14 03:08:32
You are really, really stupid.
2012-09-14 01:06:54
You just proved my point. Well do you want the game to improve or do you want it to fail?

If you want it to fail i suggest you continue what you are doing if you have the energy to spare for it.

If you want it to improve i suggest you delete this post and start over.

Let's start with what you would like to change first in GO? Movement? Recoil?

Would you like it to be more like 1.6, or Source? Or perhaps something in between.

Personally i would like to see:
Slower bullet-spread in the recoil.
Better control in movement (less gliding)
No jump-sound when walking.
Etc.

Now you will probably answer "The game is so bad it will never get any good". If you answer at all.
2012-09-14 01:41:06
The gun's to have a lot more similarities to 1.6/css - either game, don't care - just not this, it is not good, if it stays this way, will never ever ever be a competitive game.

Model size to be reduced.

Movement speed to be slowed down.

Recoil

Better colouring of the game, the game is bland boring and crappy to look at.

An ACTUAL classic crosshair from 1.6, or the original Source, not this shit they've been giving us since the HPE update of Source in 2010.

That is just a few small pointss off the top of my head. But as I said above, the reason I act this way and don't care about the game improving is because from my PAST experiences of talking to them 1on1 they are absolute idiots and don't give a flying fuck, that isn't my problem.. it is theres. I don't care if people say they are listening - THEY ARE NOT.
2012-09-14 01:44:40
23 years old? my god.... get some real life man internet is deceiving.
2012-09-14 01:47:36
I think you might need to consider your own advice, being weird and stalking every comment I write, strange kid.
2012-09-14 01:49:42
:D ur burning yourself down, if u sucked in 1.6, did hours and hours work to get somewhere in css, i would be buthurt too when another new game comes, which u again. totally suck :D Spend less hours at pc, get some real life friends, grow up, doesnt mean you need to quit gaming totally but gosh...
2012-09-14 01:55:28
You are really strange dude, I've never had to try to be good at any version of CS, unlike you, who will remain forever unknown!
2012-09-14 03:08:07
and ? I never tried to get known in games, i actually prefer normal hard working people over gamers anyday.
2012-09-14 09:49:12
Just wanted to share an email i got last week:

From: Brian Levinthal [XXXXXXX@valvesoftware.com]
Sent: September 6 2012 04:00
To: XXXXXXXXX
Subject: RE: Contact request to CS:GO Developer Team

Hi XXXXXXXXX,




As far as questions are concerned, I'll look over this list and try to get as many answers to you as possible. In general, I think the story here is pretty positive. After all, we're very serious about supporting the competitive community, and we're happy to listen to any feedback the pro players have for us!





Thanks!



Brian



____


As you can see they are answering and the DO care. Some of the stuff we have mentioned has been implemented in the updates already.

Post edited 2012-09-14 02:22:20
2012-09-14 02:18:06
lol, I had emails like that too - I even wrote thousands of words and hundreds of paragraphs to one of them via email, and they didn't listen :)
2012-09-14 02:49:48
Haha yeah, but thousands of words and hundreds of paragraphs? They would have to hire staff to deal with just your emails :)

Well all i'm saying is that they are listening, even if some pro players are not getting the attention they deserve. Some are even taking it personal and publicly stating that Valve are not listening at all. Even tho they are proved wrong in every change log.

I just want everybody to have a little patience with the game. We are getting another big update today. Let's see what it is, and judge it again after that.

The game will evolve, but if someone don't like it as it is, ofc that is fine. But the game will change like "1.6" did.

Remember this in 1.0? Thats not very suitable for competitive play right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krzUPpALyHU&fea..



2012-09-14 11:10:29
Mate, this is 2012, the game should not be like this anymore, and the change log proves nothing, they change things and either do it completely different to what we've suggested OR just change anything they feel fit and fuck it up.
2012-09-14 15:07:49
hey he is a CS:GO fanboy what do you expect?
2012-09-19 08:56:27
tbh won't even start arguing with csgo fanboys , too tired for this atm.

ritchie +1 in everything you wrote , couldn't have explained the situation better.

+1 for donadein's thread too , about cs:go's death.

this game is shit , we are forced to play it but major part won't , and it's boring and useless game.

g_G fanboiis~
2012-09-13 23:47:40
I feel sad for you if pc gaming company is forcing you to do something you dont like. Its good to add + to donadeins thread too, i honestly belieave he might add you afterall =)!

Post edited 2012-09-13 23:51:23
2012-09-13 23:51:04
add you afterall? what are you talking about?
2012-09-13 23:52:46
;)
2012-09-13 23:53:34
i still don't get it , i might be stupid but i don't understand what you want to say with "he might add you afterall"

add me in what? to what? who? donadein?

and yes valve thinking they can push up our throats a game which is disgusting and major part of community dislikes it.
2012-09-13 23:55:43
How you know "major community dislikes it" because there are so many hate topics around? Like ive said million of times, if you hate something, the last thing you do is spend days yelling it, you simply treat the game as air. And if you like it, you dont do it either, you simply dont need to. Ur having fun with the game and its fine to you. Bashing cs:go daily is just trying to get points by haters, this what i ment he might add you, cause you guys share same blind hatred towards GO.
2012-09-14 00:01:50
"blind hatred" rofl kid, the game is trash, deal with it
2012-09-14 09:01:35
game is trash deal with it
i put my opinion wherever i want.
2012-09-14 12:59:29
I enjoy playing it so its not trash for me. end of story
2012-09-14 16:24:11
keep enjoy , you are the minority
2012-09-14 19:27:25
and? i dont go with the mass, i make my own opinios and do what i like to do.
2012-09-14 20:00:59
i dont go with the mass either , but the mass is currently composed by people who feel the game and know its shit. sorry
2012-09-14 20:11:48
made no sense :DD
2012-09-14 20:12:45
oke
2012-09-14 20:18:05
How are they pushing it down your throat?

It was hardly advertised, they haven't got any major tournaments yet.

2012-09-14 15:23:55
ditching 1.6 and putting csgo at it's place = forcing people to convert to csgo players if not they dont have tourneys.

this game is dead already , stats show it and more people dont like it , if YOU really like it soo much , go play it with your little friends
2012-09-14 19:28:58
How are they ditching 1.6, all they did was release a new game. Players and leagues decided to move on, not Valve.
2012-09-14 19:30:14
HLTV.org don't delete this post ? OMG is a miracle...
2012-09-14 00:08:55
Of course they wont, they know its how the majority feels thus deleting it would only create more threads like this.

PD: Hope csgo dies soon.
2012-09-14 00:19:26
Who is csgo truly????

Post edited 2012-09-14 00:31:59
2012-09-14 00:31:37
+1
2012-09-14 01:07:34
Good job :)
2012-09-14 00:48:09
the 1.6 scene need to be togheder and the game will be back at pro lvl.
2012-09-14 03:32:34
I bought the key of cs:go a couple days earlier and I don't play it yet. I hope that game will be good and I do not notice any bugs. So thanks for the blog and I'll look around in game and I see what is good and bad.

Post edited 2012-09-14 11:29:28
2012-09-14 11:28:37
god bless you boy
2012-09-14 11:45:35
I think there should be larger difference in terms of picking up speed when switching to knife from heavier calibre weapons.
2012-09-14 16:20:05
the truth,the only truth is , if valve didnt put so much effort in pushing this game, buying names like heaton or cogu, this game would be one big fail(if it aint allready) so my advice to all 1.6 players is DONT WORRY . CS:GO is shitty game with no future


@ money makes world spin around, but in the end we[gamers] are the ones that give our money, and there is no hell someone wil force me to switch to a game this bad. i dont care about large tournaments,or pro players , i play 1.6 cuz i enjoy i it. SO SIMPLE~

Post edited 2012-09-14 17:07:56
2012-09-14 17:07:43
Maybe you should think about switching...

http://i.imgur.com/Nd28T.png
2012-09-15 13:45:56
loled at people protecting GO
it IS really piece of crap
and i doubt it will survive for more than 1 year if there wouldn't be TI in CSGO, it will die as soon as it will be clear that there is no "izi moni".
i played 1.6, source and now GO.
and i want to say, when i try to play go i FORCE myself to do so, saying to myself that we need smthing new and so on, but in fact the game is bad
the awping, the recoil, the money system, models and so on
Maybe i haven't read ritch's blog carefully, but why the hell didn't anyone mention about fuckin bugs?!?!
those wallbangs are horrible
the point that i didnt liked in 1.6 were nuke wallbangs(wallbangings for all round on roof and so on), but csgo is even worth
HOW THE FUCK u can hit guys near T resp on d2 from CT resp?! that's really ridicoulus, wallbanging B-window from middle, NICE!
and that's not talking about inferno

the maps
what the hell had they done with maps? i dont even say anything about de_nuke_se(that's just a bad joke), but what the hell is with de_train? thay've wasted all the conseption of that map. totally wasted.
i havent seen tuscan yet but i bet it will be dark ugly piece of dogshit.

i dont judge proplayers who swtiched to csgo to try to earn some money in case to maybe move to other flat and not to leave with their parents (hello GTR), but i dont understand the community.
how the fuck people who played cs1.6\source for more than at least 2-3 years will switch to COD?

maybe i will break ypur sweet dreams, but if u was shit at previous versions of cs, u will be also shit here, maybe u will win some GO4CSgoCUP#231312312, but that will be the peak of your career, so why the hell are u switching to CSGO? it will die soon, better go and play dota\starcraft, at least u need some kind of brain to do so
2012-09-14 18:02:14
After that "EDIT" you are 100% right. I mean I was used to shoot onebullets on deathmatch for example. But here, it is impossible. Either they are gonna spray me or shoot me to the body. Espicially with AK it is pretty awful technique to aiming right at head. It seems I should get off this poor habit :/

Post edited 2012-09-14 20:13:03
2012-09-14 20:11:57
For me it seems to be the only "good" aiming technigue, 1 shot bursts (not tap shooting multiple times) like 1 bullet every 0.5sec , spraying is easy to master and its pretty hard to kill a guy, who can spray well, and gets the first flinching shot on you so you can barely move out a way :S
2012-09-14 20:15:37
u have mental ill but make n1 points

n1 thread
2012-09-14 21:27:53
Well to be true i have never tried CS:GO but i have watched some streams. All i can say is call me bias call me wrong but i will always love 1.6 then any other fps game in the market. It isnt that i hate CS:GO i just love 1.6

It is really sad to see that a community which once was considered one army is now distributed.

If you consider my opinion i would never switch 1.6 if i see professionals switching to another game. Professional play a game for money. The main difference between professionals and amateurs is professionals play for money and amateurs play just because they love the game. How many of the 80,000 spectators have ever played 1.6 internationally? So many people play pubs online but have never ever seen LAN. They just play because they love the game but TBH these 80,000 people make the game. Professionals get paid because of these 80,0000. Sponsors get attracted because of these 80,0000 but still they are never satisfied and they never consider the opinion of these 80,0000. We proved them wrong in each and every tournament still they never cared. I will not blame valve for making what people call a shit game. I will blame the sponsors and organizers which made 1.6 dead in compare to a shit game.

Professionals earn a living out of it and that is why it is legit for them to switch to GO. I never play 1.6 for money and that's why i will be playing 1.6 in future.

I wish luck to GO but to be true even if it is a better game in future i guess i wont be able to adopt this game fully.

Sorry if i hurt someone..
2012-09-14 22:22:06
Interesting reading. I've always wondered how CSS players think about this game and I agree with you at each point. I'll wait and see, Valve will release some more patches before it's all done, then I can complete my words for CS:GO.

As you say, the reason why players move to this game is much due to where the money goes, but then I also think that players have no choice anymore I guess. Players like f0rest could be a little bit tired of 1.6 even if it's the best fps game ever. I think players may feel that they're not quite finished with their careers, they want to make their last on probably the last CS game we will ever see. I think however that CS:GO is too late to compete the scene even if there are no fps game to compete against anymore.

The Counter-Strike history will end up to the end of the year, sadly.

Post edited 2012-09-14 23:13:04
2012-09-14 23:12:27
Agree with everything, but this is one guy, not CSS players overall, what ive heard they majority of them likes it =S
2012-09-15 00:04:21
They like it, because they are clinging onto the fact they love CS, that is it. They are HOPING for a bright future, they will soon all quit, I guarantee it.
2012-09-15 00:17:04
And here comes the CSS Ambassador, the voice to be heard. One mouth, thousonds of peoples opinion :D
2012-09-15 00:22:24
Nice update, 2 weeks for that shit, :)
2012-09-15 00:23:58
this is actually pretty good update, small tho not saying that. Right direction and once again valve shows that they do listen. People should be more patient im truly belieaving this game will improve more at the time DH winter comes. One thing i dont like is that Valve doesnt tell you what they are working on.
2012-09-15 00:40:42
Ridiculous indeed. How the FUCK, I MEAN HOW IN THE FLYING FUCK, can they still not include GO:TV ????? And there are so many sound and gameplaybreaking bugs left... pff
2012-09-15 03:19:45
BUT they Flipped MP7 viewmodel fire selector from safety to full-auto
2012-09-15 14:08:06
No-one cant honestly enjoy playing csgo
2012-09-15 00:17:49
if it makes you feel better, every1 who plays cs:go hates it deeply and plays it tears in their eyes :D cause they are all "forced" to play it
2012-09-15 00:25:31
I actually enjoy because I'm AWESOME
2012-09-15 09:40:59
People don't like it actually, they pretend to like, they force themselves to like it. They need to jump on the mainstream bandwagon, they need to be on the supposed brand new 'hype' of the moment. A very few people really like this crap.
2012-09-15 05:12:56
i totally agree with the way of "thinking" in this game is by far not the same as 1.6 or source for that matter. ive played 14.2 hours so far and actually find the game very fun and enjoyable to play on a casual level. taking it to being competitive seems impossible. i haven't played a single mix or gather, but NO! this is way to fucking wrong. on de_train_se the bomb train is placed where the old 4th train is used to be? dafuq? above ct main you have some sort of "high" kinda similar to the one at the 3th train? then we move our arses inside and find the exact same problem. you can't get any kind of advancement retaking the site since there is like 1 optional way to go, unless you wanna stand in the middle of everything. being smarter/more experienced than you opponents is no longer possible, and there i give you right. SKILLCAP is by reduced to any fucking douchebag with eyes in hes head is able to read what hes opponents next move will be. no thinking at all. keep mouse1 down and you will succed.
Great blog.
2012-09-15 05:28:18
We just need to hope they fix the most important things like, money system, smokes, nerf p90 and duals, improve tapping, fix pov flinching with armor.

But wheter they fix those things I think the game will have atleast about as big competitive scene as CSS had in 2010-2012 because after almost every tournament and team making the switch to CSGO, everyone knows that you cant go back to the way CS scenes were before CSGO, and if the old CS players end up quitting because the game is too shit there will always be new players if the tournamets keep on coming.


PS. BEEN WAITING THE CLASSIC CROSSHAIR BACK FOR TOO LONG. :<


You gotta agree that CSS was shit compared to 1.6 way back, and still ppl made the switch / new players started and made the CSS scene exist Most 1.6 players swithced back, but the diffrence now is that big 1.6/CS:S tournaments are a lot less likely to happen anymore so if they end up giving up with CSGO they will just quit CS.


Personally I think that CSGO needs to still be updated A LOT, but I hope that it will be playable in ~half a year because I'm in the finnish army still for 111 days so can't start playing competitively yet. :<

But I don't get why you need to be so negative about the game and bash valve 24/7, what good does it make? 1.6 and CS:S pro scenes are dead and unless CSGO makes it, competitive cs is dead too.

Post edited 2012-09-15 09:50:22
2012-09-15 09:39:28
well if people told me the only way to extend soccer's life was to play with a ball the size of a golf ball, i would prefer that soccer stopped existing than to watch that shit :)
2012-09-17 02:48:33
game sucks bro and its not aimed for competitive play, valve just wants to earn some money with the counter-strike name, its more than obvious :)
2012-09-17 02:46:56
finaly, someone who has a good opinion about this game ..
2012-09-17 03:27:03
I stopped reading after you said CSGO is not a CS game.. smh.
2012-09-17 23:29:58
Probably for the best with a name like "lionheart1"
2012-09-18 00:26:21
cool picture bro, you look cool. u so hard bra.
2012-09-23 16:05:31
what res u using in csgo?
2012-10-04 22:27:52
640x480 / 800x600
2012-10-04 23:56:39
I just have to say first. Ritch were very successful in CS:S, matter of fact he's one of the few ending up in the CGS Franchise part of CS:S.

I think you guys should observe some of his comments regarding CS:GO, he's merely correct in some arguments.

But one thing I just want to tell you ritch. You don't seem as a humble person on the internet. Therefore, some users will slender you and your arguments just because of the personality you project here.

As far as I've observed CS:GO from a 1.6 players perspective, it's just another tryhard wannabe CS:CZ mod with Source engine.

The mechanics behinds CS:GO will never be fully understood because the fact that the game is being constantly changed from now. There's no actual pro scene in this game due to the changes VALVE constantly do.

I don't think anyone should support CS:GO at all due to the fact that the ones who support it only do it for the opportunity of their life.

A game like CS:GO should more or less have their fixes first before they actually do the launch. Because as far as it looks now, the game is barely getting any new players.

The hierarchy in CS:GO is also something that could be discussed. Anyone who's decent in CoD or CS:S does currently have the upper hand. Therefore I don't really understand why professional teams should switch to a game with new mechanics just because of the fact that clubs gets more money.

It doesn't make you necessarily pro at this game, that's what people take for granted. It's a completely new game in my eyes. It's not worth time being put, people should focus on real-life stuff.

I've observed that many users on HLTV are lacking social competence, that's quite normal in a forum where people spend their life's all day trolling others or talking shit about things they got no clue on.

Reason why I wanted to reply you, is the fact that you at-least try to claim that this game is utter bullshit. I'm glad I'm not alone in my thoughts :)
2012-09-20 13:49:10
finally they fixed bug wallbangs
2012-09-20 14:05:17
everything is a curve
1.6 alrdy the peak
cs go ?
go where ?
where could it go ?
it could only go downwards

see NBA mj
his peak 1998
but then he is coming back
yea i know he 100% equivilent with the nba theme i love this game
but where he go then ?
only down

so lets keep our memories
no go but 1.6 cuz peak is peak no high but low
2012-09-21 12:16:36
WHAT
2013-04-15 18:16:25
CS:GO can replace the 1.6 and the Source, But need REAL UPDATES!
I'm not talking about bugfix, maps improves, matchmaking's or these futility updates.
I'm talking about the gameplay, recoil, movement, jumps... The model "slide" when walk or jump, this is sucks.
But I think if Valve change the gameplay, then this can be a success. Just like that.

Post edited 2012-10-04 23:03:45
2012-10-04 23:03:10
+1 all said!
2012-10-04 23:59:01
Yes. And more, I think the valve is fooling everyone with false promises of feedback...
Everyone is excited and trying to help, but in fact are only helping the valve to let the game without bugs.
2012-10-05 14:37:16
no need update, just need delete
2013-04-12 20:06:28
fucking sauca
2013-02-07 16:40:43
and a bald one at that.
2013-04-12 19:28:33
noob
2013-04-12 19:35:56
the game sure lacks something.....

u get no enjoyment/"feeling" whatsoever when playing... maybe hard drugs will fix it

hope it will still get some updates.

Post edited 2013-04-12 19:37:28
2013-04-12 19:36:20
+1
2013-04-12 21:05:36
Hahahahahahahaha, you're a joke sometimes. Now you play CS:GO officially and you claim the game is not enjoyable.

Take a look at the mirror, you're turning into a new lurppis =) So, please stop joking around here on HLTV and focus on your play.

I wouldn't find it "surprizing" if your team ends within a period of three weeks. I assume that SAGGERNOOB and the rest of the players would get tired of you eventually.

Have a nice day
2013-04-15 10:28:04
so much hate, i never said it's unplayable. thx for your concern anyway

Post edited 2013-04-15 10:54:32
2013-04-15 10:49:49
amen
2013-04-15 10:56:07
Nice troll, almost as good as lurppis too. I don't find you anywhere fun.

You know, I know, you won't ever get anywhere in CS:GO nor did you ever get anywhere in 1.6

You were only a player below the real pros. You've been a tryhard since 2007, I think it's about time to quit?

Mr "Boatman", or should I call you "stonehead" ? Because I happen to know that you like to be stoned.

Another loser who's lost in life, GL to you once again "Driim".. :)

And btw: if you ever had the thought that you're useless, be sure that the thought is true. You're indeed of no use for the scene, you had your time and I find it amusing that you keep trying when the rest of Elukkaveljset boys gave up litterally :)
2013-04-15 12:55:57
hi wmb :D nice trolling, i dont smoke weed.. life, friendships and family are the only drugs i need!

btw u put way too much effort into this, i'm unprovokable

Post edited 2013-04-15 13:16:18
2013-04-15 13:10:40
let me add that i'm always up for a good laugh so pls continue. i think you only reflect your own life from your bitter sentences now that we're in this mentalist-type of conversation. You need some tips for life?

oh yeah, come at me bro!

Post edited 2013-04-15 13:35:15
2013-04-15 13:34:20
Holy thread resurrection
2013-04-12 20:02:46
hope to read get-right opinion
2013-04-12 21:01:41
Woah, Sep 2012!
I went on GO last night with some mates. Left the game after 2 rounds. Never again.
2013-04-15 10:43:10
trollolols, GO is cool now. It sucked at 1st tho.

Post edited 2013-04-15 14:26:41
2013-04-15 14:25:52
The prediction that the game wouldnt last more 6 months is a total absurdity. Especially when there are confirmed tournaments with more than 4 months ahead.
I also dont like the game near as much as i like 1.6, but atleast be realistic with the situation. I dont want to expand over here too much, but
it looks like you intentionaly try to find something that you dont like, instead of just playing and evaluating the game. Strange to see such bias bulshit from an ex-pro.
2013-04-15 15:19:30
This blog is from 2012, they updated the game to a 'decent-ish' standard, there is no point discussing this blog now as certain opinions have changed, but some still stand ofcourse.
2013-04-15 17:28:42
I wish they'd change the fucking PUKE colours.
2013-04-15 18:13:18

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