CS:GO Future!
2012-10-29 09:27
Hi Everyone!
Here's My new blog, hope you like it!

Counter Strike, What's happened?

- CSGO is new game and He need support for success, many 1.6 player hates CS:GO, create 1000 threads like "csgo sucks", "1.6 forever", "csp > csgo" and other, stop it guys! 12 years of CS1.6 isn't enough?? Yes, in this 12 years you are meet new friends, had great moments when your team win the tournament or you are cry when they lose, 1.6 is fantastic game with a lot memories. One legend which I will remember forever is legendary mousesports player "Cyx" :( TRUE LEGEND! , and yea I miss old mTw!

- Now it's 2012, We need changes, Valve is create new game and help us to start again from beginning and 'again' cheers playing new game which will become like 1.6 in future. It's normal that game can't become popular when there are a lot of haters, I bet they never played CS:GO.
As I said, guys need support CS:GO like they are 1.6, And then we will have great game and big tournaments again. Game is new for all, not important if you are 1.6 player, COD or maybe CS:S, We all begins from the same level knowledge and If you play the game a lot you will becomes better and better. Here are many teams which are switch to CS:GO and they want try.
- About 50000 players 1.6 on steam, yea This players don't have good computer which can support CS:GO and they hate him, Here are many players which play public and some of them play pcw's. Now, Find good opponents in 1.6 is really hard, 45% they are cheaters, 50% they leave if lose and 5% your team will get banned/censured. In CS:GO is just like in 1.6 before 5/6 years, normal opponents, no "many" cheaters and this is what I like atm.
What's the punch line of all this text?
Guys, don't hate the game by watching youtube videos and listening what other say about game, try to play it.

What Valve need improve?

I like the game in global, but here are few things which I hate.
- Add m4 silencer
- Add new maps
- Add fps console commands for lower computers
- Remove molotovs in competitive matches
- Add _se, _ve maps in matchmaking system
- Add server settings like in ESL
- Improve AWP, quickzoom.

Which three teams will be on top?

1. NiP; Great team with mix players(1.6/CSS)
2. VeryGames; Too, great team with CSS players, They are win much LAN tournaments and they have a lot experience.
3. n!faculty or mouz.

Now,
say me:
1. Your opinion about blog?
2. What do you like/dislike in CS:GO?
3. Which three teams will be on top?

Peace!
nice joke
2012-10-29 09:31:37
Why play a game that dont like me? I'm not gonna change CS for CS:go just for giving a chance if the game is not funny to play. Sorry for the replay..
2012-10-29 10:19:53
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improve your english
2012-10-29 10:34:25
+1389
2012-10-29 21:14:49
sorry for replay. i played Go and i really think it s*ck ofc i did not play GO as much as 1.6 but if i don`t get good felling from the game why should i play some more hours spend my time on a fail game?
2012-10-30 10:49:45
Sry for replying to you first of all, but you're absolutely right have the same thoughts about it.
2012-10-30 11:54:19
i think its lot of people who feels the same:)))
2012-10-30 14:00:06
exactly the same, i played 80 hours, when it was released my hours were like:

55.0 hrs / 55.0 hrs

now they are like:

4.7 hrs / 81.7 hrs haha, i dont have the same feeling like 1.6, thats all, if doesnt satisface me, i will not play it!
2012-10-30 17:40:15
exactly if u fell that u don`t like game why should u play it :)
2012-10-30 19:24:42
:)
2012-10-30 23:10:36
what replay?
2012-12-23 19:28:34
Dont know what you meant by joke but i find it funny that someone thinks CS:GO is not succesful because of missing silencer or awp quick zoom etc when most of the guys who bought the game couldnt care less about it.
Kinda reminds me of the state of starcraft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7rH1C964uA&t=2..
2012-10-29 16:50:51
I completely agree with every single thing Destiny says on this video, you simply can't have a successful e-sport game without a big casual playerbase behind it.

Btw, I liked the fat boy on the bottom-right corner, always laughing about everything xD
2012-10-29 17:36:29
Everything you said are right, but i'm not sure CS 1.6 community, at least the one on hltv.org will ever listen anything.
At best they won't insult you.

They are all 1.6 die hard, even if sometimes they only play it since 2 years, that's funny.

Their game is dead in competition (I mean big tournament/leagues), just as CS:S. Their attitude don't really want to help FPS eSport and particularly Counter-Strike franchise.

Post edited 2012-10-29 09:49:38
2012-10-29 09:46:36
The CSS-community is the cancer that kills CS:GO. Sure, many retards here on HLTV.org but that's because the community is so big.

I've made sooooo many constructive posts that will change CS:GO to the better, but so many sourcediehards neglect it, they say that the game is "fine" and that it doesn't need changing, when in reality the game is almost unplayable in competitions.

It doesn't help that some CSS "pros" don't know anything about what's good for esports either, I've seen CSS pros state that the molotov is a good thing for example..

And nobody gives a fuck about the "Counter-Strike franchise", the CS-franchise has managed to create _ONE_ good game, and that game was made 13 years ago.

I loved CoD 1 and 2 to death, but I won't buy the modern warfare games to support the CoDfranchise because those games are shit.

Post edited 2012-10-29 10:13:55
2012-10-29 10:03:08
"when in reality the game is almost unplayable in competitions."

who told you that? just because you think it is? game is perfectly fine as it is. obviously it could use some tweaks, but it's PERFECTLY fine. people seem to forget how CSS was when it first came out, and nobody was saying it was "unplayable" at tournaments.

"I've made sooooo many constructive posts that will change CS:GO to the better"

most of the changes you have suggested can be summed up in a sentence: "valve please make it so it is a 1.6 clone".


look, here's the deal: if you want to play counter-strike 1.6, play it, no one is stopping you from doing so. i understand that is sad to see 1.6 have no competition, but that's how things roll. i loved sc:bw but its competitive scene is dead and you don't see anyone making such a fuss on teamliquid or gosugamers.

if you like it, play it, if you don't, deal with it. CS:GO isn't 1.6, never will be.
2012-10-29 10:14:42
"most of the changes you have suggested can be summed up in a sentence: "valve please make it so it is a 1.6 clone"."

Thanks for proving that you're a troll or braindead. Usually I don't answer trolls, but I just can't this stupid comment pass by.

"nobody was saying it was "unplayable" at tournaments."

Actually, people was saying that. Everyone with a brain knows that CSS was unplayable for tournaments at release, the fact that a few sourcefanboys who sucked in 1.6 says it is playable for tournaments doesn't make it true. People who claimed that CSS was a good game for competition shouldn't be anywhere near the development of CS:GO.

"i loved sc:bw but its competitive scene is dead and you don't see anyone making such a fuss on teamliquid or gosugamers. "

Actually, people do make a huge fuss about it on TL/reddit because SC2 is dying because it is a shittier game.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11m21k/..

Go read.
2012-10-29 10:18:31
"Thanks for proving that you're a troll or braindead. Usually I don't answer trolls, but I just can't this stupid comment pass by."

typical answer when one lacks arguments. you know it's true, it is as easy as checking your topic/blog history. thanks for keeping it civil, though, you'll go far in life.

"Actually, people was saying that. Everyone with a brain knows that CSS was unplayable for tournaments at release"

that's what i'm saying, but it was still played at tournaments. people bitched because it was different game, and felt different, not because it was broken (which it obviously was). that's how sad people are around here (and in counter-strike generally speaking)

"Actually, people do make a huge fuss about it on TL/reddit because SC2 is dying because it is a shittier game."

totally missed the point. sc:bw scene is dead because the game is done, meta wasn't evolving (like it always did), it stalled in the last 2/3 years, if the meta doesn't evolve an rts game is bound to die.

the reddit thread is about what's wrong with sc2, it has nothing to do with what i said (the demise of the sc:bw scene)

next time, if you want to be as arrogant, at least get your facts straight, try to make sense and at least try address what is quoted.

2012-10-29 10:28:35
"you know it's true, it is as easy as checking your topic/blog history."

If you check my bloghistory and see "TL:DR maek gaem 1.6 pls" you're either a troll or braindead, end of story.

People DID complain about CSS being a shit game. People did bitch about it being different, THEY BITCHED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT THINGS BEING BAD. If the different things would've been good, no one would've bitched at all.

That post is relevant because it's how most posts here on HLTV.org is. Complain about about 1.6/BW dying/explain why 1.6/BW was good, and then state whats wrong with GO/SC2. Exact the same thing do here at HLTV.org.
2012-10-29 10:47:39
i don't care about what you guyz are bitching about... i just like one thing about cs 1.6... the faster more accurate movement... even css players are saying that GO has slow movement... that is saying something... a faster quicker game is always harder and better... i don't know why they are slowing it the fuck down... just make it atleast as quick as 1.6 and i will love to play CSGO... don't care about anything else... quick and precise is what i love... a different game is always good for everyone, also our mental growth... learning new things can be fun... but it should be good... slow is boring... speed is necessary...
2012-10-29 10:54:51
Have u even played GO yet? Pls dont reply if u dont know ur facts right. GO has faster movement but yes, a bit more inaccurate. If u play CSS/1.6 and then GO u will realise the faster movement.
2012-12-23 14:44:34
there is no feel to it... and no accuracy... and makes it slow to me... and yes i have played it... changing direction is not that accurate for me and the actual speed does not matter then as it feels slower... the fun of movement dies without bunny hopping and crouch walking... no fun at all... the FEEL factor is not there... anyhow... play what you like...
2012-12-23 19:20:49
I've taken a look at your posts, i'm not a CSS diehard.

I play CS since 2001, from 1.3 to CS:GO, been a 1.6 diehard in my old times, pretty good at it and then switcher over CS:S and became a pro player.

I know what's good and what's bad in all version and I'm in contact with Valve in order to improve CS:GO and fix stuff that should be fixed.

VAlve is listening, but you have to understand they can't focus on everything, to be successfull, CSGO needs both casual/competitive community.

They made an update for ESWC, now they will focus more on casual stuff (hopefully they will update movement/record stuffs like that in same time).

Looking at how CSS community embraced CSGO (I mean competitive community) and how most 1.6ers just shit on it, I won't call CSS-community "CSGO cancer". You can't argue about that.
I'd prefer someone who actually play the game say "it's ok this way don't change anything" rather than a guy saying "CSGO IS SHIT I WON'T PLAY. I WON'T WATCH" and downvoting every youtube video hltv.org makes.
2012-10-29 10:37:31
What I wanted to say with my post was that the CSS diehards are as bad as the "1.6 forevur omg" guys.

Anyways, I really doubt Valve listens, and even if they're I think that they have a retarded strategy, releasing the game way to early. So many casuals and competitive players have been lost after release and they won't come back simply because the game has sucked the D since the beta, and it still does to this date..

And they can make the game appeal to both casuals and competitive, read my blog "creating the ultimate esport game" or w/e it's called, they've done so with DotA 2 and that game is still in beta.

Ofcourse you won't think that the community that appreciates the game is the worse, but I feel like it's better for a community to have high standards then low because if the developers cooperate we'll end up with a better game in the end.
2012-10-29 10:55:17
Justin Bieber, you are the cancer
2012-10-29 11:58:42
ok
2012-10-29 12:03:13
Who is Justin Bieber?
2012-10-30 05:45:32
tell me any "sourcediehard" that continues defending css and hating on csgo? Only some public kiddies still play css because 1. they don't have to learn new things and stick to what they know and 2. they don't even know about the game.
If you have css you could go on any public server and ask the players if they know about csgo. I can assure you 70% won't... But that's another point...
2012-10-29 20:02:55
What?
2012-10-29 20:53:40
How could u not understand this?
2012-12-23 14:48:19
Please go back to your CSpromod game with already 200 players online.
2012-12-23 19:31:52
who the fuck are you and why are talking as if you are reputable community member
2012-10-29 14:33:03
My name's zaihtaM.
2012-10-29 14:42:07
You're nobody, not even a novelty troll.
2012-10-29 18:05:27
He thinks he is the boss arround here since he was a CSpromod(dead) betatester or something. HAHAHA what a retarded mofo.
2012-12-23 19:32:40
they're not "die hard", they're just idiots. most of them at least. cs 1.6 for them is a fad that will most likely go away when they turn 14.
2012-10-29 10:11:06
Where have you been when it came to support CS 1.6? Oh right, you were supporting CS:S because of personal preferences.
That's alright, 1.6 fans doing the same thing. Deal with it.
2012-10-29 10:22:58
I supported 1.6 when I played it. I switched over Source and now CS:GO.

I've always supported 1.6 stuff that CS:S needed, look at de_inferno update on CS:S, smoke, recoil, etc... Seriously you have no clue how hard I tried to bring nice stuff from 1.6 to CS:S.
2012-10-29 10:50:53
I didn't want to be offensive. The point of my comment was:
People will support whatever they like playing.

I myself stopped playing CS:GO because I simply don't enjoy this game enough to play it with the passion I had for other games. I had high expectations for CS:GO, but now I'm just disappointed.
I don't "hate" CS:GO or anyone playing it but it makes me sick to read comments like "if you don't support CS:GO you're a stubborn hater and you're killing FPS in esports". Like it's my duty to save FPS in esports not matter what. I want to enjoy a great competitive game, that's all.

Post edited 2012-10-29 11:21:00
2012-10-29 11:17:44
When did you play it the last time? I think it's a lot better now compared to the release version. And the more players "support" it (I mean playing, testing, giving feedback, etc...) the faster it will improve. If you don't do it just don't complain about csgo and play another game you enjoy.
2012-10-29 20:05:58
+1
2012-11-01 17:11:17
Supp saucer ?
2012-10-29 10:46:37
saucer ? I played counter-strike when you were still eating glue in 1st grade.
2012-10-29 10:52:59
Don't give them the satisfaction dude
2012-10-29 11:34:42
c'est qui le patron :D:D
2012-10-29 14:37:54
Ignore these 'tards
2012-10-29 14:52:26
you must be bored at the moment, replying to all those silly comments ;)
2012-10-29 20:06:33
the only reason why most 1.6 ppls wont take GO is basically because GO is not CS anymore even they call it CS,it does not feel like playing old school CS style.
If a new release game cant even beat the 12 years old game in in-game numbers from the beginning you know they got a problem,many 1.6 ppls bought GO for giving it a chance but surely people knows better, most of us give up for a trash game even we try to support the CS,because we feel like we are playing a fps game similar to COD and CSS,mean there is no future in it.
sad many kids never understand why people hate it,it's a joke that value made to get some money from us.
2012-10-29 15:44:21
Sigh, saucers just dont get it. Never heard of a game that didnt become popular cuz of vocal player or "haters". Just read all these interviews to pro player from sauce and 1.6 about how they feel about the game, judging by what they said , you might say they fall into the "hater - closed minded" category. Also, dont expect ppl to support the game when Valve is the first one not doing this, unless you think half assed updates or ones that dont address main problems (movement , weapons balance, money system )or fully supporting a remake of a game with better graphics ( which what we have always asked for 1.6) with 1 mil prize tournaments is. Hope , at least, you dont agree with his -out of his ass- statistics about ppl that play 1.6 on steam. And trust me, 1.6ers will glady switch and support a new cs if its better ( completely focused on competitive play) unlike shit like saucer or csgo.

Post edited 2012-10-29 20:09:52
2012-10-29 20:07:28
CS:GO might be decent game, but not for CS players.
2012-10-29 09:48:20
As a cs 1.6 player, i hate CS:GO recoil, no more spray and pray / running except with p90. a lot of random hs. so many fogs and glare stuff

CS:GO is also very boring to watch, hard to see the enemy and lack of feeling of seeing someone skillful and getting hs and stuff, quick zoom awp

and also the crosshair, on classic static crosshair the crosshair doesn't expand

Post edited 2012-10-29 09:59:15
2012-10-29 09:57:43
same things for me.
2012-10-29 10:09:59
Recoil is simply random, there is no pattern in it. Game decides whether you hit or not, all you can do is hold mouse1, shut your eyes and spray.

They remade and fucked up good maps such inferno and train without adding any new maps, or original 1.6 ones.

They deleted freedom with movement, so now there is no skill ceiling, noobs are pros and the opposite way around, only depends on the day.

No fps commands, high amount of people cant run CS:GO, and the last thing they would do is upgrade their PC and waste their money.

AWP?! Wtf is up with this gun, nonaccurate even when scoped in, noscoping is random, your cabable of landing your shots while running/jumping, and fastzoom is inaccurate, so you can basically hit when you would miss by miles.

They tried to make a competitive game by adding as many luck factors in the game they could. Reason behind this probably was that every1 has change of winning major tournaments and the winner changes in each one.

Whatever they tried to do with this game other than sell it , they failed and killed 1.6 competitive pro scene.

Post edited 2012-10-29 10:21:49
2012-10-29 10:19:13
The majority of that post I can live without arguing....

But this statement here...

" they failed and killed 1.6 competitive pro scene."

Is retarded. Valve didn't go "ooooo lets figure a way to piss off 1.6 players and kill their scene so lets make a new game and hope tournaments drop it."

1.6 was dying for a few years, prize pots were starting to dwindle, and the game was losing organisations, and various sponsors around it. The game itself had no new blood coming into it, and the scene was become stagnated.
2012-10-29 10:46:27
I never said they did on purpose, but they still did it. And everyone knows it, it was a risky move to try unite different scenes into one, and this risk did not pay off cause cs:go was a failure.
2012-10-29 11:18:16
But it hasn't been a failure on the COMPETITIVE side :/
2012-10-29 11:36:31
Yes it has, you actually think Valves goal was to have less than 20k players? Even they were all competitive, which is pure fiction. 30% as its best are competitive and rest are kids trying out a brand new shooter game which they saw in their nearest Gameshop.

People need to realize that VALVE made CS:GO TO TOP 1.6 IN BOTH CASUAL AND COMPETITIVE SCENE.


Post edited 2012-10-29 11:45:38
2012-10-29 11:44:04
I'm sure we will find out at ESWC then, when Valve talk to the players and see what changes are needed to be made.
2012-10-29 12:27:30
Where did valve say they will talk to players after ESWC (why not before) and do changes based on feedback?

Link/url of the source plz. Thank you
2012-10-29 12:55:51
"Moving forward, we’ll be at ESWC in Paris in a few weeks and will have an opportunity to film with more top CS:GO teams. Are there certain tips or strategies that you’d like the pros to discuss? Let us know in the forums and we’ll bring your questions to Paris!"

http://blog.counter-strike.net/

Zed from fm-eSports TOXiC confirmed on mOE's stream earlier today that Valve had also invited teams to share their feedback of the game, and see what changes they wanted made.
2012-10-29 13:15:18
Fair enough. There might be some hope left afterall
2012-10-29 13:17:15
i think they achieved their goal - profit. 1 000 000 x 10$ = 10 000 000 $$$$$$$ ..... why would valve care about competitive pro scene
2012-11-02 20:28:22
Because they get money from sponsors as well.
2012-12-23 12:15:15
+ infinite
2012-10-29 10:47:02
you're like what..15 ?
2012-10-29 10:00:54
Yes.
2012-10-29 10:11:57
The gameplay is bad, but that's not even the biggest issue. The game needs an unranked ladder, a ranked ladder, esportsinfo ingame, HnS/zombiemod/etc as official gamemodes for casuals, a leveling system for casuals similar to the one SC2 will add (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7681240/Heart_of_.. and stuff like that.

Right now casuals have no fucking reason at all to continue playing the game, and a casual that buys the game won't have any clue about esports what so ever.

SC2 is a great game, but it is dying because it doesn't have these features, and other games that have em' (dota2/LoL) is taking over. CS:GO is _DANGEROUS AS FUCK_ for the CS-scene, if a game that is bigger then CS ever was is dying because of the lack of these functions why would CS:GO succeed? It'll keep the CS-scene alive for 2 more years if we're lucky, and after that CS will die for real. Supporting CS:GO = killing CS.

Take a look at how dota2 is, ofcourse their game will be big:
http://imgur.com/a/mrnwb

Valve ignores these issues, CSPromod fucking stickied my thread in their forums: http://cspromod.com/community/forums/13-Ideas-and-..

Here's a thread about the SC2 situation:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11m21k/..
2012-10-29 10:12:21
Not supporting CS:GO would also be killing Counter Strike. Not matter what we do, by your logic, it seems that we're killing Counter Strike. I'll be damned.
2012-12-23 12:20:00
Verygames has the most digusting team play i've ever seen. no brain run like sheeps and die. Thx to Benny's for carrying them.
I think top 3 of cs go will be in 6 months 1.6 teams maybe some new fresh css players but not Verygames.
2012-10-29 10:17:40
true
2012-10-29 10:38:21
oh that haters are so stupid.
2012-10-29 17:52:50
Haters?Who?
2012-10-29 20:28:22
#36 and you will know why that guys(and you) are haters
2012-10-30 01:02:08
totally no idea about what you said...
2012-10-30 03:52:04
keep trolling
2012-10-30 18:32:04
LOL! are you mad?? what's wrong with you? keep saying others trolling hating etc?
2012-10-30 19:38:09
ohh yes that's a very common fact. And from what can you say that please ?

You watched behind them at DH.se ? No
You watched demo ? No
All your did is just watch a stream, you can't tell anything from a single pov in same time.
2012-10-29 10:55:31
just one more trollhater :/
2012-10-29 17:53:27
+1
2012-10-29 11:38:51
oh that haters are so stupid.
2012-10-29 17:52:41
oh that haters are so stupid.
2012-10-29 17:52:30
i'm not a hater but you seem to be a fanboy to post x 10 to defend VG
2012-10-30 06:04:10
Go a long way to be the future cs
2012-10-29 10:21:14
and i think that csgo does not deserve to ruin the legacy 1.6 had, if u want 1.6 to get replaced,give us a fucking proper game,not a noobfriendly small ceiling w/o movement and small maps with random garbage things.

the worst part is that saucers are so desperate that they try on theyr own to solve theese problems by making maps etc.

if valve cant make a good cs,then our last hope is csp.

and to be honest valve CANT MAKE A GOOD CS,they failed on source and they failed on go now,i got 0 trust on theese morons.
2012-10-29 10:26:29
Why can't you braindead accept it is a new cs game?

Who says 1.6 was the best cs version that will ever be? Oh yeah, the guys who played it for 12 years.

How about you get some common sense. You all are suffering from "Stockholm Syndrome" lol.

2012-10-29 14:12:14
Using Stockholm Syndrome out of context. - 1
2012-12-23 12:22:01
nope. CS1.6 got his brain imprisoned but he doesn't realise and is now friends with it. Seems legit
2012-12-23 13:50:03
These threads/blogs are getting quite annoying already. I didn't like GO at first place, because my old pc was running it set on low @ 60~ FPS. The game was kind of fun, but the fact I was playing on low was pissing me off, so I put the game aside.

I bought a new computer, and I'm playing on high, with solids 200~ FPS. Boy, the game looks so beautiful, and it's getting better and better on each update!

I kindly suggest you guys who don't like the game to let it be, and stop filling HLTV.org with threads/blogs talking basically about how the game "will not succeed" and how it "needs o be improe to get competitive":

Thank you
2012-10-29 10:28:05
No point. These kids don't want anything new, they want a 1.6 clone and can't deal with the fact that it isn't going to happen.

GO is a great game and I'm glad I gave it a chance, having tons of fun playing it and 5v5 competitive matchmaking is only lacking _se maps to be a great gateway to competitive counter-strike.
2012-10-29 10:33:48
+1
2012-10-29 10:34:44
Ofc we cant deal with the fact that 1.6 was replaced by some yber carbage some people dare to call a game.

What we want or dont want doesnt make CS:GO good, whether we want it to be exactly like 1.6 or similar to it.

Go might be a good game for public heroes with less than 2 years of exprience from previous versions of CS or without any exprience.

This game is far from fitting competitive gaming whether its in highly ranked Lan tournament or buntch of real life friends playing PCW. Game has too much luck in it.

CS:GO is a failure in many aspects , daily players are decreasing each day and 15k-20k peaks as it best? Is this close to DOTA2 numbers to you? As they predicted or blind people doing blind reasoning while supporting GO.
2012-10-29 11:41:10
Get a life melon
2012-10-29 19:21:16
???
2012-10-29 20:07:58
CS source need higher skill










not
2012-10-29 20:30:46
agree
2012-10-29 12:31:00
We will just have to give it time and wait and see!
2012-10-29 10:31:15
I guess that they'll improve game through various patches but it'll take time..

The thing that ruined them is that they've released a non finished game, full of glitches and they are pushing it to competitive scene altough it's clear that is not ready for that..
2012-10-29 10:51:46
-i like what u said :) imo 12 years of cs 1.6 is enough.
-cs:go need to be improved like m4 silencer & some fps commandes
but i don't thnik so about quick zoom & maps, it's enough
dd2, inferno, nuke_ve, mirage_csgo, train and we need a new tuscan
1.NiP
2.Mouz
3.VG
2012-10-29 10:56:24
o duck :)
2012-10-29 10:58:29
I don't love CS 1.6 anymore how I loved it 1 year ago. I play it maybe 1 time per week and I wanted to try a new game (new CS).
I tried CS:GO and it sucks. When they fix a lot of things then they will have a lot of players. Deal with it!
So, I bought BF3 and enjoy the game, but not as I enjoyed in 1.6. I'm waiting till valve fix a lot of things (bigger maps, new maps, m4 silencer, a lil bit recoil on ak47&colt, movement, pistols too strong etc..) or till CSP 1.09 release. They know what to fix and there is no reason for asking: "Why are there so little number of CS:GO players?" etc.

I will not play the game for fame, I will play it for fun. I won't play the game which is unejoyable (for me). I have enough good pc for CS:GO 300 fps, but I won't play it yet...

sry4bad eng.

Post edited 2012-10-29 11:08:00
2012-10-29 11:06:21
nice read
2012-10-29 11:47:19
Some people think GO is the future, some don't.

Some people think GO is the only option for competitive gaming at the moment, and some people think a game needs more than that to succeed.

Some people believe Valve will fix the game, some people don't.

Some people think the game is already fine, and some people aren't retarded.

Either way, let's stop arguing and making stupid posts cause it's not changing anything. 1.6 f0revaarrrrrr
2012-10-29 11:26:03
Some people are trying hard to BELIEAVE GO is future, when some people have their own opinions and they know its not.

Some people HOPE GO will be long lasting game in Competitive side, but most people know that bad game wont last.

Some people PRAY Valve to fix the game, where most people dont belieave in fiction.

Some people desperatly WANTS CS:GO to be fine, where some people are too proud to lie to themselves.

Either way, these arguements probably wont end in the near future even though it changes nothing. Posting forums is as much of a hobby as playing games.

Post edited 2012-10-29 11:53:43
2012-10-29 11:52:54
You just re-worded everything I said, what's going on :S
And posting on forums is fun, until you are posting the same stuff over and over. I'm getting sick of telling people how shit GO is. Let them find out for themselves and let's talk about more pointful shit, like how I'm so unbelievably good at cs 1.6.
2012-10-29 12:13:12
I just used your text as a base to my own, sorry about that. Youre right what comes to these type of posts, its simply bad debating with poor reasoning.

Same happens when HLTV.org releases top 20 players each year, based on stats and stats only. Still many people are debating and arguing who deservers a higher rank or who doesnt.

Same with CS:GO, stats dont lie and in order to debate against stats, people need to make up things, exaggerate things or stubborningly insult people who base their facts for numbers.
2012-10-29 12:23:39
haha, one of the main reasons I no longer argue with GO players is exactly that. No matter how much stats, they always come up with some excuse that isn't backed up by anything more than an opinion :D

Stopping now or some csgo fanboys are gunna write a massive essay reply to me :(
2012-10-29 12:36:20
cs:GO : BAD COD and BF COPY + Many useless things and stuff !

Post edited 2012-10-29 11:57:49
2012-10-29 11:57:15
This game is the future and people can like it or they can don't. It doesn't change the fact that after every update and after every tournament, this game is getting better and more superior to 1.6
2012-10-29 12:00:11
Youre trying too hard to be succesfull troll, in a point all you do is embarrash yourself, make CS:GO gamers look worse than they actually are.

Pure fiction your whole statement nothing else.
2012-10-29 12:04:21
"CS1.6 isn't enough?? Yes" 4 sure not !

"bout 50000 players 1.6 on steam, yea This players don't have good computer which can support CS:GO and they hate him" cool story and 100% bullshit, this game sucks deal with it

"Now, Find good opponents in 1.6 is really hard, 45% they are cheaters, 50% they leave if lose and 5% your team will get banned/censured" maybe in your country...in Poland still 1.6 strong !!

"try to play it" doesn't work rly, 1.6 forever
2012-10-29 12:17:59
The gameplay/fluid movementation, always have been the reason of 1.5/1.6 success, that's why a lot of people still have fun with it nowadays, and that's why the game have big numners on steam stats. But, on GO, the gameplay is incredibly worse, it is a huge downgrade, that's why, no matter how many of these fixes Valve release on minor/small aspects of the game, it won't ever be close to the seuccess of our old CS. In fact, the only improvement GO has to offer is: the better graphics.

And this won't attract 1.6 players: http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&j..

As you can see, surprisingly, after GO releasement, the average number of 1.6 players have raised (it don't even drop below 50k now).

And this (GO 'good' graphics) won't attract CoD/BF players as well: these games have much superior graphic than GO, and that's pretty much all the new game has to offer.

You can call me a hater, but I think this pretty much the reason of the low numbers of GO, and that's why the game is losing players every week since it's releasement, as you can see on the link I've posted before.
2012-10-29 12:21:14
+1
2012-10-29 20:32:03
lol at 1.6ers. enough said. They could have brought out another Quake game and you'd still moan that it's not like 1.6. GO is perfectly playable for comps (except molotovs) they're shite! other than that, it's good.

Post edited 2012-10-29 12:23:46
2012-10-29 12:22:53
Playable? So you mean, for a game it's enough a "playable" state?

I won't listed all of the things which are definitely wrong in GO, but if any of experienced 1.6 player said, GO is okay, then he's crazy or liar.
2012-10-29 12:50:52
"GO is playable game" :D Atleast you had no high expectations, we who though it would be GOOD game are pissed off cause its only "playable".
2012-10-29 13:55:45
That's the problem lil' saucer. We don't want playable games, we don't play playable games, we got use to good games(not to say amazing), so no, we won't support a playable game

Post edited 2012-10-29 17:43:17
2012-10-29 17:42:29
#yolo
2012-10-29 12:26:17
COD:GO RIP , cs`ers dont watch COD:go streams :D
2012-10-29 12:32:15
Dat grammar
2012-10-29 12:40:30
I like nothing but I dislike everything in GO..., sorry.

I don't think, that many gamers still play with 1.6 because of the computer performance. It's even about the game itself.

Wait one year and CS:GO will have as many cheaters as in 1.6.

Post edited 2012-10-29 12:47:47
2012-10-29 12:44:04
play LoL
2012-10-29 12:49:10
how fucking stupid is this zaihtaM kid what a joke LMFAO
2012-10-29 12:53:19
As far as ive seen he has good posts which he backs up well, doesnt offend people nor bitch if somebody doesnt share his opinion. Unlike you, you said his fucking stupid and a joke but you never said why he is, or what made you insult him.
2012-10-29 13:03:10
Because of his posts. And since you think he makes "good" posts. This implies you are the same kind of joke.
2012-10-29 13:36:02
Nice to hear myself being joke, usually people have much darker visions of me :)
2012-10-29 13:45:57
I base my stuff on facts/history, you (as in the CSS-idiots that browse this forum) base your posts on emotion.

Tell me how smart you are again.
2012-10-29 14:08:21
No you don't. Also, it shows your emotion when you reply like this to me. I can see you are angry, stating I must be one of your hated "CSS" players.

FYI, I was a quake player up until recently.
2012-10-29 14:14:52
So what if you're a quakeplayer? And no, i'm not mad at all, i'm just amused at how stupid people can be ;-)

FYI, I haven't been wrong in any prediction I've made so far, and it's the opposite for "my haters".

Post edited 2012-10-29 14:39:35
2012-10-29 14:38:34
"CSS-community is the cancer that kills CS:GO"

I would enjoy seeing you back that up with facts.

If you fail to do so, It will probably take me all of 5 minutes to gather enough facts from this websites active threads to show you the opposite.
2012-10-29 14:42:27
Visit cadred.org, read any news/forumpost about CS:GO. Most people think it's a good game over there, and a considerable amount of users actually defends it on every single point. I'm very sure you've seen evidence of this.

Because of these peoples positive view on the game, we can't make Valve change the game for the better. If the whole community would push for Valve to make the gameplay more skillful and less random and introduce all the features LoL and DotA2 for example has i'm very sure we'd see that happening.

But as of now, there's no point in rallying for it because we'll have all these morons (CSS-community) saying that the game is good. Because of these morons the game gets small player and viewernumbers.

At the end of the day it's Valve's fault for making the game shitty, but the CSS-community surely ain't helping.

Post edited 2012-10-29 14:48:22
2012-10-29 14:46:52
I don't know why you think opinions of people on small random gaming forums matters to valve. But continue hating on people for pointless reasons if you like.

Valve will be at ESWC, so let's see if NiP, ESC,VG and all the rest let them know their (hopefully united) opinion.

Post edited 2012-10-29 14:49:48
2012-10-29 14:49:26
"I don't know why you think opinions of people on random gaming forums matters to valve."

They've stated numerous times that they listen to the community. If we'd make a huge fuss about it (steamforums, tweet at valve) they will notice, just like Blizzard does for SC2.

Maybe they lied to sell more gamecopies, maybe they don't give a shit about esports at all (very likely), but one can atleast try right?
2012-10-29 14:50:46
Was gonna write you a length reply but i took ill while scrolling down the thread.

"Sourceplayers shouldn't be considered at all, there's a few reasons on why a player would choose CSS over 1.6:

They like the game more = they enjoy a less competitive game.

They want an easier game = they want a less competitive game.

They prefer graphics over gameplay = why the fuck would we ask this guy on how to create good gameplay?"
2012-10-29 19:17:41
Because thats the truth?
2012-10-29 19:19:15
He's from Sweden, what do you expect
2012-10-29 15:10:34
Actually he is trying to do much more for CSGO than any of the saucers. So stfu already.
2012-10-29 19:18:10
It's the new future of CS. U don't like it? Don't play it. The New will replace the old one, one of the life cycles. I don't play the CS : GO but i just like to watch.
2012-10-29 12:58:50
dont like cs go, why?

CS GO = COD easy.

CS GO:

NO RECOIL
MOLOTOVS
ZOOM SNIPER

so bad really.


Post edited 2012-10-29 13:03:14
2012-10-29 13:01:41
CS:GO = easy?

So that's why I own you every time you play?
2012-10-29 13:48:00
CS:GO is random, if you own him multiple times your simply having more luck than he has.

By easy he means that worst player in the world is cabable of beating the most talented aimer because the game has more luck needed than skill, therefore he might find it easy rather than hard.
2012-10-29 13:58:21
Ok you also agree with this guy. I see.

Let me explain some things:
CS:GO has a set pattern like cs 1.6.
CS:GO has smaller hitbox:model size ratio than 1.6 and source.
The only thing stupid in cs:go is weapons like P90 and p250, these enhance chances of getting a "luck" kill.

The only way the worst player in the world is capable of beating the most talented aimer in any game is based on LUCK you complete ape brain. You can say the exact same thing for 1.6/source etc.

Post edited 2012-10-29 14:06:26
2012-10-29 14:05:41
Let me explain some things:

CS:GO has random recoil, not pattern ( you spray 100times and none of these recoils are 100% same or all of them might be)

So once you start shooting, its all about luck where this random recoil decides to throw your bullets, therefore you might not kill a guy not once even your twice better in aiming. On the other hand he might kill you, when he is simply spraying into same direction, basically eyes wide shut and has luck with the recoil.

p90 and p250 are OP and thats why they are worst case of scenario.

Yes, thanks for ultimately backing me up. Luck is a key for noobs to kill much better players, sadly CS:GO has too many keys.


Post edited 2012-10-29 14:14:46
2012-10-29 14:13:48
You are a typical moron. Stating things based off nothing. There is a set recoil pattern. Go and try it yourself.

I stopped reading after you wrote that.
2012-10-29 14:17:00
There is no set of recoil, try the game before talking crap. And stop insulting me, go out and take a breath cause getting mad over internet isnt good for your health saucer :D
2012-10-29 14:20:14
And this people, is the reason css players think 1.6 players don't like to change. This man defies all logic and reason and states incorrect things as facts. Then has the audacity to tell me to try the game.

It's actually quite funny.

p.s. I am not a "saucer"
2012-10-29 14:23:00
1.) They arent incorrect, recoil is a issue stated by thousonds of people in hundreds of topics/videos.

2.) You told me to try it myself, ive tried. You apparently havent, or you have no clue how 1.6 recoil was, what made it good and why it fitted competitive play as it did for casuals too.

3.) I am an funny person

Post edited 2012-10-29 14:30:58
2012-10-29 14:30:22
I never said recoil was good. I said it has a set recoil pattern. It does. I was stating facts. You weren't. End of that story.

I do know how 1.6 recoil was, that isn't what we were discussing. But it's good to know how far off your understanding was.

The reason it feels random like you say, is because of the size/radius of the pattern. It is too hard to control it when trying to shoot multiple enemies.

Have a good day. I am glad to have won this argument.
2012-10-29 14:38:29
Its random not pattern, your stated "facts" are false :D..

You know how 1.6 recoil was? Honestly thats hard to belieave

The reason it feels random is because its random, simple as that.

Ive said there are thousonds of comments, hundreds of videos proving myself right. Your debating with poor reasoning, there are no proofs in any stuff you say.

Thank you, i will :) So this was a win/lose arguement? sorry im too mature for that type of nonsense but i can accept this great "victory" of yours, if it pleases you.

Now you no longer need to be mad, and you can continue playing GO if it makes you happy.
2012-10-29 14:48:03
I will just leave this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJba1p4of8

And let you masturbate over 1.6
2012-10-29 14:51:59
Though you aldready left me
2012-10-29 14:54:06
He is from Quake and hate both CS 1.6 and CSS, and think CS:GO will be succeed.


oh wait...

he play very least of CS 1.6 and don't even have any "feelings" on 1.6 and just simply keep bashing a game that he don't know how to play properly
2012-10-29 18:05:48
tl;dr

gameplay is bad (recoil , nades , awp , movement)
it won't be the future if it keeps being shit , and if it gets better , then i'm gonna play it(probably never cause they do wtf they want instead of listening to community)
you practically say "it needs support"? why? why should I(like other hundred/thousand people) be forced to support a game which I don't like at all , and it's even called "CS:" , makes me vomit.
2012-10-29 13:46:00
Lets face it, CS:GO is not a bad game, but its fucking ridicticulously horrific when compared to CS 1.6 and has same tittle only to sell copies.
2012-10-29 14:00:29
well yeah , kinda , since it has that gameplay of bf/cod series it shouldn't have been included in this category , and made different.
2012-10-29 14:20:05
People support cs:go by saying "its just different, you get used to it over time"

Does being different have to mean being bad, which cs:go surely is :S

Game which you need to play months, before getting the slightest inch of pleasure doesnt sound very attractive nor promising.


Post edited 2012-10-29 14:25:35
2012-10-29 14:24:55
by: wrt
#158
after 1/2 week of playing the game is awesome, believe me, i played 1.6 for 5 years, since i played GO after 2 weeks i never touch in 1.6.
2012-10-29 19:59:52
Regnam fuck this community, they dont deserve you and what are u doing for cs.

This place is just full of stupid kids. Everybody knows it that fuckin 1.6 community is the worst....

Post edited 2012-10-29 14:33:29
2012-10-29 14:31:56
+1...didn't realise it until I made an account here and read a few threads. The ratio of mature normal people to underage spotty grease-balls is nearing 10:1 I would say.
2012-10-29 14:40:05
1.6 community loves 1.6,NOT CS GO! STOP SAYING "1.6 community doesnot support our bullshit game". We [ 1.6 community] support only 1.6. And THIS IS LOGICAL. ASK FOR SUPPORT CS GO COMMUNITY. ENOUGH WITH THESE THREADS. I HATE THIS GAME,though i have 430 fps on cs go @ 1920x1080 low settings. I have source,1.6,dota 2 and so on. But i play only 1.6 and dota 2,because i love these games. It's stupid to ask for supporting people,that don't like the game,which they are asked to support.
2012-10-29 14:48:07
Why should anybody normal support unfinished game,when its clear that valve is focusing on dota2,witch is amazing atm.
2012-10-29 14:58:56
"Valve is create new game" - stopped reading.
2012-10-29 15:01:31
Most of guys have never tried CS:GO and judge a game by some Youtube videos released by Russian and Ukranian "1337" kids.

1.6 was a great game, but its already gone.
2012-10-29 15:06:29
It was gone a long time ago
2012-10-29 15:12:17
But if I don't like CSGO,why I have to play it?
2012-10-29 15:33:32
The only problem with nowadays games is: PHYSICS

That's why new games sucks like CoD Mordens and BF and Quake. And why old games rocks like: q3 arena, cs1.6, quake2, quakeworld, quakelive and the list goes on...

Quake until Quake4 was great. It was a BIG FPS game in every major tournament. Then come to the day that they would replace it for Quake4. It sucked as hell and they went to PK - PainKiller.

There is no 'REAL' problem with those new games but there is one thing that good players hate, crap physics that keep trying to bring us closer to 'real world' INSIDE A GAME!

That's why HALO is such a big success in USA, it's physics is GREAT. You can do AWESOME shots and AWESOME movements to flee from enemy fire and chasing. If you want, just watch some nowadays HALO MLG videos to see what I'm talking about.. if you want to see old videos, search for quake3 OSP or CPM, that's skill.

I've played CS:GO, BF and CoD and all FPS new games. They are new and I would play when my internet is off.

But when I can play online, I will just switch to some skill based FPS game. It is a lot more mind-blowing than graphics, visual and entertainment by itself.


Conclusion: PHYSICS FROM ALL NEW GAMES IS NOT GOOD BECAUSE THEY KEEP TRYING TO BRING US GAMERS CLOSER TO 'REAL PHYSICS' and I THINK that not even a single game should need to bring physics close to real, not even once and if it would be the case, it would be a "GameTitle SIMULATOR", for me CS:GO is CS:Simulator 2012.
2012-10-29 15:36:50
cool and true story bro
=D
2012-10-29 18:07:50
n�o fale besteira ;\
do not talk nonsense; \

Post edited 2012-10-29 15:57:57
2012-10-29 15:57:40
Dont you find it funny hgow varied 1.6 diehards opinions on csgo are??

Some say its so easy to spray and pray on csgo???

One guy up there goes he hates it cuz he cant spray and pray in csgo...meaning its dificult??


Others say its such an easy game.. but the fact of the matter is every pro has said the recoil is harder in csgo than any other cs game?/wierd.

Some say they played csgo for a couple weeks and didnt like it thats funny because I remember the names especally guys such as jaquess hammer etc whatever his name is saying he would never play this shit game never has , yet he comes here and acts like he played it .../wierd


They say anything to try downgrade csgo, all they ever say is recoil is so easy and easy to kill or recoil is to hard and to hard to kill ?? But wait it cant be both pick one which one is it?? Nvm

The real truth is most of the people who flame csgo and yes I say "most" cant even run the game let alone have played it .

Want to know the facts??


Here they are

1.6 lans in the next 2-3 months?

I dont know of any some but there might be some i dunno

CSGO LANS?
$$$$$$
dreamhack winter 45k usd
eswc 20k usd
Espots planet LAN 10k+ usd
Northcon 15k usd
Thor open 18k usd
xl party 20k usd
german eps is 30k+ usd
ESEA season 12 is 20k+usd
I series uk 6-7k usd
+ countess other smaller lans with 5k+ usd prizes or some I dont know about.


Thats around $180k usd to be won just in 2 months . and these are just the LANS i know about.

Not counting 35k esea season 13 lan and $30k sweedish championsh + coppenhagen games which is going to be $30+k also


Thats alot of money guys , I am going to enjoy myself watching these LAN tournaments. While you can sit here mad as hell complaining about this and that. If you dont like the game dont play it , dont watch it , we dont care but its getting really tiresome with these types of people on this website trying to flame csgo at every oportunety.

HAVE FUN making some steam graphs guys while I get my popcorn and watch Nip vs very games or esc vs Virtus.pro FINAL
2012-10-29 16:01:27
Yes the competitive scene in this game is going to be fantastic. And for once, I won't have to turn off the stream because of Rahim commentating so badly
2012-10-29 16:12:56
"Some say they played csgo for a couple weeks and didnt like it thats funny because I remember the names especally guys such as jaquess hammer etc whatever his name is saying he would never play this shit game never has , yet he comes here and acts like he played it ..."

What?! I NEVER EVER said something like that. I was in the Beta since February and I played it after every update and almost daily for two months. Played a lot of irc mixes and a handful of versus matches. Also I never had any problem to run CS:GO on my PC.
Stop talking bullshit.

"Thats alot of money guys , I am going to enjoy myself watching these LAN tournaments."

Yeah, have fun watching LAN tournaments because of the prize money.

Post edited 2012-10-29 16:17:52
2012-10-29 16:16:17
CS:GO is not that good but we have to play it and deal with it because CS 1.6 is dead.



nice logic.




You are having stage 2 cancer but you chose to deal with it because you are going to die.





hey mate, there is a cure right?
2012-10-29 18:20:12
"12 years of cs 1.6 isn't enough?? "
Yes, it`s more than enough, this is exatly why I as cs 1.6 player am so frusturated that there is no better version of cs released yet. Almost any game out there is developed with purpose to draw bigger number of people to play it, and to accomplish that one of basics is neccesoty to make game n00b-friendly and foolproof, which is why this is probably why fps scene is dying out and rpg type is taking over. That`s completely backwards, because it takes same concept of counter-strike skill building, except all skills have names and are pointed out like one big tutorial.
Cs 1.6 is as popular game as it is because every player can build his own unique playing style, to build his own skills and specialities.
However CS:GO follows popularity formula and therefore very many apsects in game are simplified, destroying depth and options.
For example, movement, which had so many ways to be implemented in your playing style at cs 1.6, but what is it like in CS:GO?
For example, recoil, which was possible to be controlled in many different ways, making it possible to develop your own shooting styles in cs 1.6, but in CS:GO?
CS:GO ineed is different game, but just because it`s different doesn`t explain why 1.6 players don`t like it. If it was like 1.6, then we would enjoy developing our skills and playstyle while playing it.

Post edited 2012-10-29 16:11:34
2012-10-29 16:10:18
jaquess hammer once again coming out with bullshit , I don't watch the LANS because of the prizemoney but because of the teams the money will attract or are you to dumb to understand?

And I said "most" people cant run it.
2012-10-29 16:25:30
It's pretty sad that the CS:GO community has to make threads practically "begging" for their game to be noticed and played, asking people to play the game, no matter if they enjoy it or not, and support it like it's the next big thing. If you really think that it is, stop making these stupid threads and acknowledge the fact some people prefer a 12 year old game and some other people prefer the new one.
2012-10-29 16:37:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ebqkJd89E&lis..

this is the real future :) cs 1.6
2012-10-29 16:39:49
DIE IN 5 MOTHS :D
2012-10-29 16:43:14
You're right and CS community should follow you. (or us) I dont even know all the hate towards CS:GO, most of the haters havent probably even played it. We need to move on. As you said, 12 years isn't a bad age for a competitive eSport.
2012-10-29 16:44:21
It's pretty sad that the CS:GO community has to make threads practically "begging" for their game to be noticed and played

EXCUSE ME? is it the CS:GO or CS 1.6 community saying things like "WE WILL NEVER DIE, YOUR GAME SUCKS, WHO WILL PLAY COD:GO, SUCKS SUCKS, CHILD GAME..."
2012-10-29 16:57:51
Things i like :
Your blog.

Things i dont like :
Your english :(
2012-10-29 17:17:06
"cs:go future" i just need to read the title and ill know that you are a retard and your blog is bullshit, even though i got through it a lil bit:
1.
"Now it's 2012, We need changes"
Why do we need changes?
Football has been there for hundreds of years and they have never needed changes, if your tired of CS, then stop playing it instead of hoping that some new game could bring fun into your crappy life again.


2.
"Valve is create new game and help us to start again from beginning"
-No, they aren't:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq4wiuuoukE&fea..

3.
"About 50000 players 1.6 on steam, yea This players don't have good computer which can support CS:GO"
-Well, I think I don't need to say anything about this.

4.
Train your english skillz.

cya

2012-10-29 17:22:22
I agree some with you but your English isn't that good too
2012-10-29 18:10:32
true story
2012-10-29 19:55:57
What Valve need improve?

-movement and recoil from 1.6 ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
2012-10-29 18:49:00
+ 10000. Its the core of the game FOR GOD SAKE. Valve castrated CSS and CS GO.


Play tetris without long block. Its possible but gives no fun.

Post edited 2012-10-29 19:24:55
2012-10-29 19:23:21
+1 i will play this game if they do so
2012-10-29 19:44:17
+1
2012-10-29 19:56:52
Valve works with american pro players, american cs:source players.... Thats ridiculous, 1.6 community is much more experienced and skilled and best players of the world played cs 1.6 not cs:s. That's dumb. Valve makes videos about "pro players" tips in cs:go, but I don't simply even know who they are. ;o

Post edited 2012-10-29 19:00:02
2012-10-29 18:59:56
+1
you stated those facts!
2012-10-29 20:36:01
Without casual gamers and a big player base this game WILL DIE.So all you CSGO lovers enjoy it while it lasts.Ever wonder why it has such a low number of players? MAYBE BECAUSE ITS CRAP.

Valve made dota2 great,but when it comes to cs,they have no clue.They tried a mix of fps games ( css/cod/bf)trying to bring new players,but it was the opposite,they had some players switching from css/1.6 thats it.

The peak for cs:go these days is 17k players.How do you call that game successful?How can you say that cs;go is the future?
The only thing I can understand is that,some players want a competitive game,by that I mean they want to play in leagues/ladders/lans , and the only way to do so right now,is by playing cs:go and I feel sad for them.

Post edited 2012-10-29 19:42:27
2012-10-29 19:41:11
true story bro =D
2012-10-29 19:50:02
true story fo sho
2012-10-29 19:53:45
The only thing I can understand is that,some players want a competitive game,by that I mean they want to play in leagues/ladders/lans , and the only way to do so right now,is by playing cs:go and I feel sad for them.

Exactly
2012-10-29 20:32:56
Just wait till ESWC or even DH Winter starts and then talk something about viewers or stats. Now you look like a fool by writing this
2012-10-29 20:39:37
lol why would I look like a fool,I talked about player base numbers and that is a fact.
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
I did not talk about the competitive scene,so?
2012-10-29 20:58:07
You didn't talk about the competitive scene since without stats, which is already top1 excuse by some 1.6ers, you wouldn't prove anything. And its funny how a game with 53k player base and without any tournaments died in less than a few weeks, while a game with average 20k community and tournaments does fine
2012-10-29 21:08:04
you sir are in denial.
For a game to succeed ,you need to have a big player base wich cs:go doesnt have.IEM took out 1.6 because there wasnt enough players outside of europe,so what do you think will happen when a game has 17k players?
Like I said, enjoy it while it lasts.
2012-10-29 21:24:46
After ESWC, DreamHack Winter, esports planet LAN, Northcon, Thor Open, Xl party, German Eps, Esea season and I Series Uk. Only after all of these tournaments we will have a better clue where the game is going to end up. But thats not right now. Right now the only person in denial is probably you

Post edited 2012-10-29 21:54:38
2012-10-29 21:50:57
#182
2012-10-29 22:17:11
Whole CS:GO community cant even get 5k stream viewers. 60% stream viewers are 1.6 players who watch their favorite players, like Neo and f0rest, you better SU because without them stream would be "empty".
2012-10-29 21:48:42
Judging by what numbers?
2012-10-29 21:51:50
I dont have any clue, its my opinion and i think it is right. Same thing i can ask you, because you are expecting high stream numbers with 17k players. Let's assume that 5k are pub players. Then remains only 12k people, so you are also expecting 1.6 community to watch ESWC or you have magic wand :). I dont count CSS community because it have small number of specators and they dont even watched their own game.
2012-10-29 22:08:04
Thats were you're wrong. Go has 53k players, only 20k~ are playing it at the moment. With GOTV and interesting competitive games, it will hopefully reach more than 17k views. And thats not an opinion
2012-10-29 22:14:04
Key word is "has" maybe 25k people get disappointed? I personaly dont like recoil and some maps, and i will play it if they fix that. I am not a hater and i hope for big stream number, but it will be difficult without 1.6 community as you say :)
2012-10-29 22:21:47
Maybe they have, or maybe they rather play scrims and pugs in 1.6. Thats not a big deal, I would rather do that also. And if you are one of those bitching people who cry over recoil, movement and all that shit, I heard the next update with that will come out in November
2012-10-29 22:26:26
I don cry, dont like it only. I was playing a litle bit from my friends steam to see how it feels now, and i sprayed 10 bullet into guy and only 1 hit (AK 47) xD But its kind of fun, graphics is nice, i also have problems with CT/T models, they are to similar :( Movement is not so bad for me.

Post edited 2012-10-29 22:45:15
2012-10-29 22:44:40
keep lying to yourself bro, you're good at it
2012-10-29 21:39:57
Keep replying to me bro, you suck at doing that
2012-10-29 21:52:15
You complaining about someone replying to you? Ironical, isn't it?
2012-10-29 23:44:46
Exactly +1000
2012-10-29 21:40:30
1. NiP; Great team with mix players(1.6/CSS)
2. VeryGames; Too, great team with CSS players, They are win much LAN tournaments and they have a lot experience.
3. n!faculty or mouz.

Joke of the day. Anyway, learn some English. GG/WP.
2012-10-29 19:52:57
nice joke
2012-10-29 20:26:34
m4a1 silencer. tuscan. change inferno_ce, change train
2012-10-29 20:13:30
+ recoil&movement

btw tuscan soon :P
2012-10-29 20:17:10
To Hell with this CS:GO and CS 1.6 Future Both will be dead one day why the fuck we care about it? tell me?
2012-10-29 20:40:12
Tell me why do you care about your life when you know that you will die one day like those games?
2012-10-29 20:49:53
I dont care about my life even!One Day We all are gona Die M already dead brother: I <3 CS 1.6 I played it for 8 years But man when they killed that game they killed me the player CS:GO Is GOOD and Better then Source But I MISS CS 1.6 They are Killing it Day by Day not only the professional Competitive scene also the Local Competitive scene very slowly;)
2012-10-29 22:00:42
Cs:go Future?? Man... 2012 world ends
2012-10-29 21:07:24
worlds end beacuse the handless play CS:GO =) CoD:GO is bullshit but handless support this shit
2012-10-29 21:38:07
1.6 is just perfect nothing to improve there. And if the only made 1.6 with better graph it would stay amazing but NO they want to experiment and they made NO:GO!
2012-10-29 22:03:41
bullshit! what they say here!!!

we can not give an opportunity to cs go for the simple reason that not have the essence of the 1.6 that easy
2012-10-29 22:20:09
i agree with everything on that list apart from the Molotovs' i believe they are very good they are just a new feature and new games need new features. they should also add the game/server making system they had in 1.6

and gc go has to be my favorite cs so far

Post edited 2012-10-30 00:24:41
2012-10-30 00:23:25
Please stop trying to shove csgo down people's throat. they have made up their mind and although I love the game and want more people to play, many other people might not like it and want to stay with their game that is more fun for them to play...
2012-10-30 02:12:37
finally some CS:GO lover with brain
2012-10-30 05:50:29
You are THE guy
2012-10-30 17:01:33
u got it all wrong mate

What Valve need improve?

1.6 MOVEMENT!!!
2012-10-30 05:36:51
i really wonder why people hate it so much imo it's a decent game yes sure it's not 1.6 but come on it's playable and it actually has some future unlike 1.6 since people don't wanna pay to see tournaments in 1.6 ...
2012-10-30 07:19:50
thousands of FPS games were released after 1.6 came out, i didnt play any of those, why should i even try cs go? just because it has name counter strike in it?
2012-10-30 11:00:55
Stop this shit blogs like this. CSGO was never a replacement for 1.6. Shut up everybody and stop comparing. Play it or leave it. Play 1.6 or leave it. Simple as that. STFU.
2012-10-30 20:22:13
1st of all, improve your english , its painful. 2nd, cs 1.6 succeeded, and for a long time, not because people were promoting the game, there was no blog like this to say, HEY COME PLAY THIS GAME, 1.6 was amazing and was succesful because it was a great game and you didnt need to play 300 hours to start liking it. My point is, if the game is really as good as they say, it will succeed, you dont need to push it down people's throat. I played it and disliked it, not because I dont want to learn, but because I dont enjoy playing it.
2012-10-30 20:37:58
People do not let the cs community dies, I hate all who support csgo,betrayal,all pro players were sold for sponsors
2012-10-30 20:42:58
fuck u
cs:go sucks hard
2012-10-30 21:13:58
CS:GO forever
2012-10-30 22:28:43
I played cs:go and it is just... I don't know just a simple new game, not a professional one, it involves a lot of luck in shooting and that's all... imo it's not a competitive game, 1.6 is unique and I think it will be back shortly after some important competitions with cs:go.
2012-10-30 22:41:12
I agree with everything except:
- Remove molotovs in competitive matches
- Improve AWP, quickzoom.
2012-11-04 18:04:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8TZNHCJxB0


this guy is my idol !
2012-11-05 15:19:51
-csgo +1.6
2012-11-05 15:26:38
n!faculty ? Bitch please.
2012-11-09 21:23:23
+ recoil&movement

btw tuscan soon :P
2012-12-23 12:19:18
Its 90% 1.6ers that hate csgo, that is a fact
2012-12-23 12:22:34
becuase when they come in new game and fail they stop playing it.. Csgo is great all u need is time to play alot and practice and soon u fall in love with that game..
2012-12-23 13:26:17
play CSGO or move on with life
2012-12-23 14:09:04
Csgo is is awesome GAME...not a E SPORT....cs 1.6 is a ESPORT...
2012-12-23 14:26:11
csp>csgo
2012-12-23 14:50:54

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