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CS:Promod = Gameplay & Style
2012-12-28 14:10
CS:Promod
Remember the good old days? CS beta was launched everybody freaked about the game. This game was everything we wanted back then. Clutches that were heartwarming, aces that would make you scream. This used to be a real game, today since the steam version launched the game is almost 14 years old and still listed 4the as most played game on steam.
Well the competitive scene died, there are no lans and no money in this game anymore that's why people left the game to play just another post-hd graphics fancy game like CS:GO. Where every shooter is placed on a linear line and every spray pattern is the same.
Around December 16, 2012 The CS:Promod team launched the update we were all waiting for. The 1.6 community wanted this and now it's here, but why isn't everyone playing it? Because people are too lazy to pick up yet another counter strike because they've been playing cs:go they paid for it and that means in their eyes that it just has to be better. But the question is if you think this way why wouldn't you have switched to source in 2004?
You know the answer right? It Sucked, it sucked so hard the scene died in less than three years while there is still a scene for 1.6 of casual and common gamers. Did you really think that this game would be any different? :))
The moral of this 'blog'= CS:Promod has the gameplay, graphics, and it's free what more do you want?
note: You don't have to own a source game to play CS:Promod, Since Team Fortress 2 became free the source engine is free.
steam://run/218<- Link to engine
cspromod.com/mirror/mirror1_full_exe/ EU
cspromod.com/mirror/mirror2_full_exe/ US
cspromod.com/mirror/mirror3_full_exe/ AS
Remember the good old days? CS beta was launched everybody freaked about the game. This game was everything we wanted back then. Clutches that were heartwarming, aces that would make you scream. This used to be a real game, today since the steam version launched the game is almost 14 years old and still listed 4the as most played game on steam.
Well the competitive scene died, there are no lans and no money in this game anymore that's why people left the game to play just another post-hd graphics fancy game like CS:GO. Where every shooter is placed on a linear line and every spray pattern is the same.
Around December 16, 2012 The CS:Promod team launched the update we were all waiting for. The 1.6 community wanted this and now it's here, but why isn't everyone playing it? Because people are too lazy to pick up yet another counter strike because they've been playing cs:go they paid for it and that means in their eyes that it just has to be better. But the question is if you think this way why wouldn't you have switched to source in 2004?
You know the answer right? It Sucked, it sucked so hard the scene died in less than three years while there is still a scene for 1.6 of casual and common gamers. Did you really think that this game would be any different? :))
The moral of this 'blog'= CS:Promod has the gameplay, graphics, and it's free what more do you want?
note: You don't have to own a source game to play CS:Promod, Since Team Fortress 2 became free the source engine is free.
steam://run/218<- Link to engine
cspromod.com/mirror/mirror1_full_exe/ EU
cspromod.com/mirror/mirror2_full_exe/ US
cspromod.com/mirror/mirror3_full_exe/ AS
If this thread won't be closed it's going to be fun.
Promod is awesome. To anyone who hasn't played it, give it a shot, it's getting to a stable state now, and we even had a tournament on the other day which was really fun (and had 42 teams participate).
+1+1+1
+1+1+1
Admin, why would you delete comments that aren't even offending?
Because they are senseless hate comments that is no use for this blog.
Every one on this website already knows about promod.
http://www.game-monitor.com/GameSearch/cspromod2/C..
As you can see....no one cares.
inb4 comment gets deleted, probably by pus os scypher.
inb4 I get another ban probably by pus or scypher
Post edited 2012-12-28 14:26:53
http://www.game-monitor.com/GameSearch/cspromod2/C..
As you can see....no one cares.
inb4 comment gets deleted, probably by pus os scypher.
inb4 I get another ban probably by pus or scypher
Post edited 2012-12-28 14:26:53
No one cared about CS:GO until it got picked by tournaments.
GO had more players in its beta stage without hltv users ;)
so true
competition game without real competition is just some mod for fun
competition game without real competition is just some mod for fun
that exactly what i said , prepare to get deleted and probably banned :D
This isn't Cadred you know
http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&j..
Dispite the million dollar marketing valve is pumping into this game, the playerbase wont even go near to 1.6.
Like i said this is CSS vs 1.6 all over again but this time its CS:Promod vs GO :)
Post edited 2012-12-28 14:35:38
Dispite the million dollar marketing valve is pumping into this game, the playerbase wont even go near to 1.6.
Like i said this is CSS vs 1.6 all over again but this time its CS:Promod vs GO :)
Post edited 2012-12-28 14:35:38
cspromod vs csgo? You have to be kidding me.
"just another post-hd graphics fancy game like CS:GO. Where every shooter is placed on a linear line and every spray pattern is the same"
Tell me please, what does this mean?
Post edited 2012-12-28 14:35:36
"just another post-hd graphics fancy game like CS:GO. Where every shooter is placed on a linear line and every spray pattern is the same"
Tell me please, what does this mean?
Post edited 2012-12-28 14:35:36
Sir, Are you blind?
If you play cs:go you would have notice, if you dont stop talking.
If you play cs:go you would have notice, if you dont stop talking.
Stop this bullshit.
1.6 is dead , css is dead , promod has a fucking 50 players playerbase , only game remaining is CSGO.
Instead of making threads about how promod is 1000x better than CSGO why wont you be the 51 player to play it?
1.6 is dead , css is dead , promod has a fucking 50 players playerbase , only game remaining is CSGO.
Instead of making threads about how promod is 1000x better than CSGO why wont you be the 51 player to play it?
You will find you're answer in the blog.
we can create everything we want since we have our section, you don't have to post in here, go post on ur CS:GO Section please!
58,342 Counter-Strike
40,541 Counter-Strike: Source
+nonsteam players :D
--
24,373 Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Not so dead :D
E-sports? GO is a game which replaced 1.6 by valve's money thats all.
PS. I dont protecting promod.
40,541 Counter-Strike: Source
+nonsteam players :D
--
24,373 Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Not so dead :D
E-sports? GO is a game which replaced 1.6 by valve's money thats all.
PS. I dont protecting promod.
dude I know the stats , but why wont you realize 80% of these players are people playing zombies/wc3 mods or some shit like that and have no idea about esport and hltv existance?
So yeah for me 1.6 is dead , esport and playerbase wise.
Post edited 2012-12-28 16:02:06
So yeah for me 1.6 is dead , esport and playerbase wise.
Post edited 2012-12-28 16:02:06
Did you thik most of GO community interesting e-sports? Please.
You're wrong.
I guess you said that because most asian servers are like that, but in America there's still plenty of players playing scrims every day and normal public servers.
The game is professionally dead. But it has more players (without taking into consideration those who play NO-STEAM) than CS:GO.
And comparing 1.6 to CS:GO by saying that 1.6 has more underage players is just stupid, the game has been around for years, you can even play it for free with NoSteam, how do you pretend that kids won't play it? Just give CS:GO a few years (if it lasts..) and the same thing will happen.
Post edited 2012-12-28 17:46:37
I guess you said that because most asian servers are like that, but in America there's still plenty of players playing scrims every day and normal public servers.
The game is professionally dead. But it has more players (without taking into consideration those who play NO-STEAM) than CS:GO.
And comparing 1.6 to CS:GO by saying that 1.6 has more underage players is just stupid, the game has been around for years, you can even play it for free with NoSteam, how do you pretend that kids won't play it? Just give CS:GO a few years (if it lasts..) and the same thing will happen.
Post edited 2012-12-28 17:46:37
South America*
Where 1.6 is still popular
Where 1.6 is still popular
Million dollar marketing? Where?
Valve's entire marketing has basically been the following.
Made a cool trailer which they couldn't even be bothered to post to their facebook.
Told a few gaming websites.
Did 1-2 show matches in beta.
Advertised half assedly on steam.
Seriously, the amount of money they've spend on advertising is probably less than 10K. And most of that went on the Lan show matches.
If CSP can't match this level of meagre advertising, then this game has zero hope.
Valve's entire marketing has basically been the following.
Made a cool trailer which they couldn't even be bothered to post to their facebook.
Told a few gaming websites.
Did 1-2 show matches in beta.
Advertised half assedly on steam.
Seriously, the amount of money they've spend on advertising is probably less than 10K. And most of that went on the Lan show matches.
If CSP can't match this level of meagre advertising, then this game has zero hope.
Finally someone with brains.
"Dispite the million dollar marketing valve is pumping into this game, the playerbase wont even go near to 1.6."
The fact that they probably spent 0 on marketing this time around for a game aimed at the established market of CS players.... I didn't see any TV adverts, or adverts at cinemas for CS:GO.... so perhaps you should cut the bullshit out from your statements ;)
The fact that they probably spent 0 on marketing this time around for a game aimed at the established market of CS players.... I didn't see any TV adverts, or adverts at cinemas for CS:GO.... so perhaps you should cut the bullshit out from your statements ;)
Its like you guys are sleeping-_- HLTV should be GOTV imo.
Lately you only see GO news, Go tournaments you think that this isn't marketing?
-What about Xizt suddenly leaving fnatic for nip? you really think this has nothing to do with money?
-Dont you see that NIP was created by one purpose only? Fucking propaganda
-CS 1.6 getting removed from IEM while it had much more viewers then GO will have by a long shot.
-ESL not being able to list CS:PROMOD in versuz and still GO being listen in EARLY beta phase.
This is one pile of wet, and this blog was a wakening call in the future you should read in between the lines.
These kinda company's broke FPS gaming, look at COD it has like 4 releases a year.
I have nothing more to say.
Lately you only see GO news, Go tournaments you think that this isn't marketing?
-What about Xizt suddenly leaving fnatic for nip? you really think this has nothing to do with money?
-Dont you see that NIP was created by one purpose only? Fucking propaganda
-CS 1.6 getting removed from IEM while it had much more viewers then GO will have by a long shot.
-ESL not being able to list CS:PROMOD in versuz and still GO being listen in EARLY beta phase.
This is one pile of wet, and this blog was a wakening call in the future you should read in between the lines.
These kinda company's broke FPS gaming, look at COD it has like 4 releases a year.
I have nothing more to say.
Wow, you really need to wake up and actually look up and see what "marketing" actually means.
Marketing is Activision paying for adverts to be made and then shown on TV stations across the world, and through specific google ads, and YouTube ads.
Marketing is, Riot ploughing in money to their own game and then funding tournaments that organisers run.
What you are talking about is organisations who actually made their own decisions without much input from Valve.
"Lately you only see GO news, Go tournaments you think that this isn't marketing?"
That's not marketing, that is journalism, big difference.
"-What about Xizt suddenly leaving fnatic for nip? you really think this has nothing to do with money?"
Yep he left fnatic for money, 1.6 completely died out, he made a logical decision before most of the top teams even decided to switch.... a clever thing to do and fueled by money, however it has paid off. That's not marketing, that is smart decision making.
"-Dont you see that NIP was created by one purpose only? Fucking propaganda "
NiP was a part of early history of CS1.6, once again, it is now part of CS:GO's life currently, marketing a name, but that's all it is, unless Valve went to Heaton and said "yeah we will pay you this much", that isn't "marketing" or even "propaganda", do you know what that means anyway?
"-CS 1.6 getting removed from IEM while it had much more viewers then GO will have by a long shot."
Sponsors pay for a demograph of viewers, having 50k from one region instead of 5k from a various amount of regions, does not pay, smart money - demograph sense, smart marketing instead of stupid marketing.
"-ESL not being able to list CS:PROMOD in versuz and still GO being listen in EARLY beta phase."
That's ESL's decision, and one they would happily back, GO had a massive community and interest when it was in beta, whereas CSP does not. That's not against CSP, that is splashing out on supporting it, if numbers justify it.
"This is one pile of wet, and this blog was a wakening call in the future you should read in between the lines.
These kinda company's broke FPS gaming, look at COD it has like 4 releases a year."
Activison and EA are completely different to Valve, and perhaps some of this community should wake up and realise this isn't CoD... this is Valve who respect their community.
Marketing is Activision paying for adverts to be made and then shown on TV stations across the world, and through specific google ads, and YouTube ads.
Marketing is, Riot ploughing in money to their own game and then funding tournaments that organisers run.
What you are talking about is organisations who actually made their own decisions without much input from Valve.
"Lately you only see GO news, Go tournaments you think that this isn't marketing?"
That's not marketing, that is journalism, big difference.
"-What about Xizt suddenly leaving fnatic for nip? you really think this has nothing to do with money?"
Yep he left fnatic for money, 1.6 completely died out, he made a logical decision before most of the top teams even decided to switch.... a clever thing to do and fueled by money, however it has paid off. That's not marketing, that is smart decision making.
"-Dont you see that NIP was created by one purpose only? Fucking propaganda "
NiP was a part of early history of CS1.6, once again, it is now part of CS:GO's life currently, marketing a name, but that's all it is, unless Valve went to Heaton and said "yeah we will pay you this much", that isn't "marketing" or even "propaganda", do you know what that means anyway?
"-CS 1.6 getting removed from IEM while it had much more viewers then GO will have by a long shot."
Sponsors pay for a demograph of viewers, having 50k from one region instead of 5k from a various amount of regions, does not pay, smart money - demograph sense, smart marketing instead of stupid marketing.
"-ESL not being able to list CS:PROMOD in versuz and still GO being listen in EARLY beta phase."
That's ESL's decision, and one they would happily back, GO had a massive community and interest when it was in beta, whereas CSP does not. That's not against CSP, that is splashing out on supporting it, if numbers justify it.
"This is one pile of wet, and this blog was a wakening call in the future you should read in between the lines.
These kinda company's broke FPS gaming, look at COD it has like 4 releases a year."
Activison and EA are completely different to Valve, and perhaps some of this community should wake up and realise this isn't CoD... this is Valve who respect their community.
I honestly couldn't have said it better (probably wouldn't have the patience for it either).
I saw many many CS:GO ads around me but yeah maybe it's fan-made not Valve's.
haha, I was banned twice for saing bad things about cspromod :) And my posts were deleted :D
Grow up please kid.
Coming from you??Please.
Read what you posted, look how mad you are.
Don't care about those CSP haters. They know in their subconsciousness that CSGO playerbase is going down like a cow's tail (while CSP's is growing), but they just can't admit it. That's why they whine and rage at CSP supporters.
How is the csp player base growing ROFL ,explain?
Post edited 2012-12-28 16:47:24
Post edited 2012-12-28 16:47:24
You can see it just from here, hltv.org.
What ???? Explain? There are less people on cspromod servers right now than there was 1 week ago and that was low enough,most of the time it does not even have 100 players and US time zones less than 50 , how is that a growth in the player base , tell me.
Post edited 2012-12-28 16:51:56
Post edited 2012-12-28 16:51:56
90% of 1.6's and also CSGO's players are public players. 90% of CSP's players play gathers and clan matches, because the word hasn't reached the publics yet.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/officialcsp
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/officialcsp
where did you get this 90%? just curious
yeah and those 90% on csp is like 40 players
+1
where can i play csp? any gathers?
#cspromod and #cspromod.int
Yet one of '' THOSE '' threads where someone is telling other people what is best for them and what should they do.
I've played all the counter-strike games and I must say this :
cs 1.6 - great
cs:go - great ( but different from 1.6 )
cs source and cs: cz - those are the 2 that great/bad i don't actually care about
cs promod - is just bad ( you have those big maps and the players models are so small its just silly ) it's buggy and stupid :] if i wanted a game like promod i would just go and play some 1.6
I've played all the counter-strike games and I must say this :
cs 1.6 - great
cs:go - great ( but different from 1.6 )
cs source and cs: cz - those are the 2 that great/bad i don't actually care about
cs promod - is just bad ( you have those big maps and the players models are so small its just silly ) it's buggy and stupid :] if i wanted a game like promod i would just go and play some 1.6
And no I am not bad at promod don't say things like ... you are getting owned by real players thats why you don't like promod ...
Yesterday I played promod like the whole day and it was just boring and pointless as fuck ! My team we were winning the matches most of the time and yet I didn't even felt remotely happy about winning ! Thats how shit it is ...
Yesterday I played promod like the whole day and it was just boring and pointless as fuck ! My team we were winning the matches most of the time and yet I didn't even felt remotely happy about winning ! Thats how shit it is ...
Haha oh God how arrogant you are. How is it relevant to CSP's "shitness" if you win couple of pcws? You want a trophy? I mean, isn't it possible to win a pcw in 1.6 too? Your logic is funny.
Don't know how long you have played cs, but also in 1.6 if you are overwalking enemies it's always boring. Just like getting overwalked by enemy always feels frustrating. Nothing new there.
I have played 1.6 for 8 years and I can tell that I'm having great time playing CSP clan matches. It feels just like playing 1.6 matches.
Msg me at IRC and lets play this evening/night so we can check if there's any reason for your arrogance.
Don't know how long you have played cs, but also in 1.6 if you are overwalking enemies it's always boring. Just like getting overwalked by enemy always feels frustrating. Nothing new there.
I have played 1.6 for 8 years and I can tell that I'm having great time playing CSP clan matches. It feels just like playing 1.6 matches.
Msg me at IRC and lets play this evening/night so we can check if there's any reason for your arrogance.
The size of the player-models and the map-proportions are IDENTICAL in CSP and 1.6 (that's how they were made).
It's just the map textures which are still from CSS and made for bigger models.
All maps will be revamped in the near future.
Maybe you just got used to the proportions of GO/CSS..
It's just the map textures which are still from CSS and made for bigger models.
All maps will be revamped in the near future.
Maybe you just got used to the proportions of GO/CSS..
CSpromod developers should make a direct download, not with source engine and on, that would bring more players.
Agreed
Im sure they will add that in the future.
I also hope that they will promote it and add matchmaking and promotion for tournaments etc.
I also hope that they will promote it and add matchmaking and promotion for tournaments etc.
What's the difference? In 1.5 you needed to download a patch for HL plus 1.5 installer and if you wanted Pod Bot too. It's almost the same thing.
Except now kids are spoiled by all those easy to download, click and play platforms.
there are lof people who are lazy to download shitload of links, so if there its just one link to download it would be more easy for the people who want to download it, u cannot compare 1.5 with 1.6, since 1.6 had more players than 1.5 had:), maybe u took my first post wrong, im not a CSPromod hater, actually im a fan and supporter of it, just wanted to let developers know what game needs, if they see my post ofcourse.
Post edited 2012-12-28 15:57:17
Post edited 2012-12-28 15:57:17
you are talking to the people who want better matchmaking than better gameplay, tread carefully or some burgers might fall off the hands of those lazy halfwits :p
Shit copy of 1.6 why not just play 1.6. If you want to play a new game play csgo
Stop saying irrelevant things, the compitive scene died, there is no money for the top scene.
This game is the only way it's fairly new yet its still under development + atleast these developers listen to their community and do what they want.
This game is the only way it's fairly new yet its still under development + atleast these developers listen to their community and do what they want.
Here's the thing though. In its current state CSP has zero chance of getting anything more than a small casual competitive scene. The graphical style looks worse than 1.6 (Which isn't fun for viewers in itself), the playerbase is none existent.
While I would love to be proved wrong, there is more chance of 1.6 making a huge international comeback than the current CSP version getting an important esport scene.
If you're looking for a competitive scene, CS:GO is your best chance. If you're looking for casual 1.6 action, or even semi competitive, 1.6 is your best chance.
While I would love to be proved wrong, there is more chance of 1.6 making a huge international comeback than the current CSP version getting an important esport scene.
If you're looking for a competitive scene, CS:GO is your best chance. If you're looking for casual 1.6 action, or even semi competitive, 1.6 is your best chance.
Even though I try to deny it to myself, in its current state(of CSP), I agree with your points.
But with this said, I still hope the devs make this whole wait worth
But with this said, I still hope the devs make this whole wait worth
I think you're right
Activity on CSP just still isn`t started, as game still have a lot left to be implemented till its final version comes.
"Where every shooter is placed on a linear line and every spray pattern is the same."
Every spray pattern isnt the same and CSGO is on a linear line? what the fuck are you talking about :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Every spray pattern isnt the same and CSGO is on a linear line? what the fuck are you talking about :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
when u get used to cs:go a modern game, its hard to comeback to an oldschool game like promod or 1.6 and i played cs almost since the beggining , i think cs:go need to improve but its better than csp . CSP team shouldnt let cs:go dominate the scene .. cuz now i really doubt that people from cs:go will migrate to CSP
..or they could give CSP a modern look
well even the gameplay , i am used to cs:go now , and now for me 1.6 is past ( this is the feeling from most of people who plays GO that came from 1.69- i think csp should copy and perfect what cs:go doesnt have with a a better gameplay than cs:Go ( i am saying this despite i like cs:go gameplay but i know most of people dont so it would steal GO players )
Post edited 2012-12-28 18:50:31
Post edited 2012-12-28 18:50:31
I (and many others) still prefer 1.6's gameplay. To be honest I don't even like GO's gameplay anymore (was fun for about 1-2 months).
The CSP developers should try to get the gameplay as close as possible to 1.6 and then improve this already awesome gameplay even more.
And don't forget: It's not only about attracting the current CS fans, it's about attracting new players (who haven't played any CS at all). We all know how amazing 1.6's gameplay is. I mean it made the game staying alive for more 13 years and it's extremely addictive (can't say this about GO's gameplay tbh).
Post edited 2012-12-28 19:13:59
The CSP developers should try to get the gameplay as close as possible to 1.6 and then improve this already awesome gameplay even more.
And don't forget: It's not only about attracting the current CS fans, it's about attracting new players (who haven't played any CS at all). We all know how amazing 1.6's gameplay is. I mean it made the game staying alive for more 13 years and it's extremely addictive (can't say this about GO's gameplay tbh).
Post edited 2012-12-28 19:13:59
csp = 1.6 gameplay + ugly style + dumb sounds
CSP= Counter Strike to its fullest. If you think about that the Devs never had the real 1.6 Sourcecode, you have to admit that they did a genius Job.
CSGO= a Try to accomplish a Sequel, but failed from the Beginning.
CSP= what CSGO should be.
CSGO= like no CS should be like.
CSP= already in Version 1.10 so competition ready, that it outshines those lame Devs of CSGO, which didn't even know how to spell Counter Strike before the Project easily.
CSGO= is a Game based without a straight Starting-Concept, made by CS Noobs for CS Noobs and Pro Players, which seem to have no other Option right now. That's why they play it and because it's international in right now. That's why I did it and so on.
CSP= is graphicwise totally ok, modern enough and is made to run on almost every PC worldwide. Stable and strong Performance is one of the Aspects a real competitive Gamer and even those Casual Boys need. They would cry their Mama's Bed full, if they couldn't play their new and loved Game because of Performanceprobs with their PC of Christmas. XD
CSGO= is graphicwise a Proof for the whole fail CSGO is. You just have to think on the Colorpoverty, the Fog which is a clearly nogo for every serious competitiv Gamer and so on.
CSP= a Game with an excellent Recoilmachanic because they had a real Vision for that called CS 1.6.
CSGO= a Recoildesaster, created by Devs which can't differentiate Day and Night.
CSP= was made by People with real Braineffort, Passion and Love for the Game and the Community.
CSGO= was made by Valve which won't give a Shit about our Opinion at the end of the Day so long they sell a CS Sequel like CSGO (and many other Titles cause they are a multimillion Dollar-Company), which was never taken serious by them self. The Community cares more about this Game, than the own Developers.
CSP= is the Future if it gets its earned Chance.
CSGO= is just a Snack, made as a Snack, made for Snacks and will last like a Snack, not long. XD
CSP= wonderful, so give it a Chance if you truely love CS.
CSGO= was made without a straight Vision.
CSP= was made with a straight Vision
And now it your Guys Post-Battlefield again cause the Master has spoken the Truth. XD
I played CSPro Mod after playing Version 1.08 yesterday and today the whole Day and it's awesome.
I am not saying CSGO is an unplayable Shit, because if that would be the Case, I didn't spend the last weeks and months with it, but that doens't change the truth about every aspect I mentioned.
You just have to realise it. ;)
Post edited 2012-12-28 18:37:46
CSGO= a Try to accomplish a Sequel, but failed from the Beginning.
CSP= what CSGO should be.
CSGO= like no CS should be like.
CSP= already in Version 1.10 so competition ready, that it outshines those lame Devs of CSGO, which didn't even know how to spell Counter Strike before the Project easily.
CSGO= is a Game based without a straight Starting-Concept, made by CS Noobs for CS Noobs and Pro Players, which seem to have no other Option right now. That's why they play it and because it's international in right now. That's why I did it and so on.
CSP= is graphicwise totally ok, modern enough and is made to run on almost every PC worldwide. Stable and strong Performance is one of the Aspects a real competitive Gamer and even those Casual Boys need. They would cry their Mama's Bed full, if they couldn't play their new and loved Game because of Performanceprobs with their PC of Christmas. XD
CSGO= is graphicwise a Proof for the whole fail CSGO is. You just have to think on the Colorpoverty, the Fog which is a clearly nogo for every serious competitiv Gamer and so on.
CSP= a Game with an excellent Recoilmachanic because they had a real Vision for that called CS 1.6.
CSGO= a Recoildesaster, created by Devs which can't differentiate Day and Night.
CSP= was made by People with real Braineffort, Passion and Love for the Game and the Community.
CSGO= was made by Valve which won't give a Shit about our Opinion at the end of the Day so long they sell a CS Sequel like CSGO (and many other Titles cause they are a multimillion Dollar-Company), which was never taken serious by them self. The Community cares more about this Game, than the own Developers.
CSP= is the Future if it gets its earned Chance.
CSGO= is just a Snack, made as a Snack, made for Snacks and will last like a Snack, not long. XD
CSP= wonderful, so give it a Chance if you truely love CS.
CSGO= was made without a straight Vision.
CSP= was made with a straight Vision
And now it your Guys Post-Battlefield again cause the Master has spoken the Truth. XD
I played CSPro Mod after playing Version 1.08 yesterday and today the whole Day and it's awesome.
I am not saying CSGO is an unplayable Shit, because if that would be the Case, I didn't spend the last weeks and months with it, but that doens't change the truth about every aspect I mentioned.
You just have to realise it. ;)
Post edited 2012-12-28 18:37:46
+1
Conclusion:
CSP = failed f2p game
CS:GO = Successful p2p game.
CSP = failed f2p game
CS:GO = Successful p2p game.
You are right dude (y) cs:P is the perfect merge of Source and 1.6, sad for VALVe they went so far to release a game but not a real eSport game !
sry but i dislike cspromod. 5 years too late inclusive the ingamesound.
dont forget the stupid movement on the models when they die. etc.
dont forget the stupid movement on the models when they die. etc.
Yet another same thread...
So maybe a question for a change: how come direct ripoff of Valve intellectual property (Counter Strike) is legal?
So maybe a question for a change: how come direct ripoff of Valve intellectual property (Counter Strike) is legal?
care to answer?
whats the best settings for cs promod
rate
cl_cmd
cl_update
fps _max
pls answer thx
rate
cl_cmd
cl_update
fps _max
pls answer thx
you don't have to change anything. the netsettings are already perfect.
if you're having heavy FPS drops you might lower the fps_max, but that's all.
+ here's a guide in case you're having loss or choke:
http://cspromod.com/community/threads/5653-Guide-t..
Post edited 2012-12-28 20:40:09
if you're having heavy FPS drops you might lower the fps_max, but that's all.
+ here's a guide in case you're having loss or choke:
http://cspromod.com/community/threads/5653-Guide-t..
Post edited 2012-12-28 20:40:09
"The 1.6 community wanted this and now it's here, but why isn't everyone playing it? Because people are too lazy to pick up yet another counter strike because they've been playing cs:go they paid for it and that means in their eyes that it just has to be better". WTF? Why would anybody want to play a worse game than 1.6 which is being developed by 4 dudes that take it as a sidejob/hobby and has delivered nothing but promises?
It's not worse than CS 1.6 anymore. IMO it's already better than 1.6 and it's going to be even better in the future.
the source weapon models, map textures and sounds suck, but this is going to change in the near future.
"which is being developed by 4 dudes that take it as a sidejob/hobby and has delivered nothing but promises"
1. CS 1.6 has no support from Valve since years..
2. Actually they already delivered a lot. I remember people making fun of their goal to "bring the 1.6 feel to the source engine". If you're honest you would recognize that they did a pretty good job (better than I and most people expected).
the source weapon models, map textures and sounds suck, but this is going to change in the near future.
"which is being developed by 4 dudes that take it as a sidejob/hobby and has delivered nothing but promises"
1. CS 1.6 has no support from Valve since years..
2. Actually they already delivered a lot. I remember people making fun of their goal to "bring the 1.6 feel to the source engine". If you're honest you would recognize that they did a pretty good job (better than I and most people expected).
That's a pretty bold statement but its your opinion. What i don't like its the constant "this game lacks x but it will be implemented on the next patch" which happens every 5 months or more; u might also remember that most of the comments about the v1.09 were on the line of "i thought the project was dead" since the last bit of information released about csp was like a year ago (or at least felt like it).
yeah I know, that's truly a problem. but I decided to give these guys a last chance because I think they really deserve it. Garfield said updates would now come frequently and CSP 1.1 (the first out-of-beta-version) would be out in about 3-4 months. Let's see...
Post edited 2012-12-28 21:49:36
Post edited 2012-12-28 21:49:36
CS 1.6 is completely dead competitively, only the pub scene remains.
CSP is literally no where right now. The CSP staff even got embarrassed about the amount of players they have daily. First day after 1.09 (biggest CSP patch ever)there was roughly only 800 people playing. And now? I'd say anywhere from 0-200 people.
CS:GO, although it isn't close to what 1.6/csp is, is really the only hope. I myself can't compare CSGO with any other CS title. It feels like a whole different FPS like CoD but after playing with friends for a good day playing some pugs, and being introduced to the pro scene, I see there is competition and a lot more to learn than just 1.6. It's more difficult, and being in a new environment of the same genre is a good feeling.
1.6 is/was the perfect game but there's no players so no more fun. CSP did an okay job but it will just never have the amount of players GO has. 15k+ with more competition and competitive mode and such isn't bad, especially when you compare it to CSP or even 1.6. 1.6 has a strong 50k usually but most of the players are bots/pubbers (zero competition).
After CSGO's release I played the BETA, disliked it, played it a month ago (when it was free for a weekend) and I disliked it and just recently my friends were playing it for fun since they had strong computers and they bought me the game. After playing, I accepted it isn't what 1.6 was, it's a new game, a lot of new things to enjoy, it's a game after all right?
So before being ignorant about CS 1.6 or CSP being the future, stop and just think. It's until you accept CS:GO is different and that it's a game to enjoy more than the other CS titles now. Give it a go, especially with friend's and I guarantee you that you'll find it a "fun" game. That "fun" can lead you on to play competitively if you choose to or not.
Many of you people think the pro's only switched because of the money, that's not true. Well actually, who knows right? But I'm sure now, the players actually enjoy the new environment. Change isn't all that bad, after playing for a while, like I said three times, it's very fun. It's a whole different game.
inb4ignorantcomments
CSP is literally no where right now. The CSP staff even got embarrassed about the amount of players they have daily. First day after 1.09 (biggest CSP patch ever)there was roughly only 800 people playing. And now? I'd say anywhere from 0-200 people.
CS:GO, although it isn't close to what 1.6/csp is, is really the only hope. I myself can't compare CSGO with any other CS title. It feels like a whole different FPS like CoD but after playing with friends for a good day playing some pugs, and being introduced to the pro scene, I see there is competition and a lot more to learn than just 1.6. It's more difficult, and being in a new environment of the same genre is a good feeling.
1.6 is/was the perfect game but there's no players so no more fun. CSP did an okay job but it will just never have the amount of players GO has. 15k+ with more competition and competitive mode and such isn't bad, especially when you compare it to CSP or even 1.6. 1.6 has a strong 50k usually but most of the players are bots/pubbers (zero competition).
After CSGO's release I played the BETA, disliked it, played it a month ago (when it was free for a weekend) and I disliked it and just recently my friends were playing it for fun since they had strong computers and they bought me the game. After playing, I accepted it isn't what 1.6 was, it's a new game, a lot of new things to enjoy, it's a game after all right?
So before being ignorant about CS 1.6 or CSP being the future, stop and just think. It's until you accept CS:GO is different and that it's a game to enjoy more than the other CS titles now. Give it a go, especially with friend's and I guarantee you that you'll find it a "fun" game. That "fun" can lead you on to play competitively if you choose to or not.
Many of you people think the pro's only switched because of the money, that's not true. Well actually, who knows right? But I'm sure now, the players actually enjoy the new environment. Change isn't all that bad, after playing for a while, like I said three times, it's very fun. It's a whole different game.
inb4ignorantcomments
"It's until you accept CS:GO is different.."
So peope who don't like playing this game (which is different from the version we all played before) are just not willed to accept that it's different from the previous CS versions?
I played CS:GO for about 3-4 months. I still don't like it and I'm feeling done with it (though it was pretty refreshing at the beginning).
"..and that it's a game to enjoy more than the other CS titles now."
You started to play CS:GO and you apparently enjoy it. That's fine but why the fuck do you believe everyone else should feel the same? You even call people who feel different about this game "ignorant"..
Do you like playing Metal Slug? No? I fucking love it but I don't think you're ignorant because of that.
"I guarantee you that you'll find it a "fun" game."
No, you can't.
"15k+ with more competition and competitive mode and such isn't bad"
Don't lie to yourself. Of course it's bad for a game which is supposed to be the successor of CS 1.6 and CSS.
More competition? I'm sorry but CS 1.6 had more competition even 3 minutes before it died (just take a look at the tournament list of 2011).
Post edited 2012-12-28 23:02:55
So peope who don't like playing this game (which is different from the version we all played before) are just not willed to accept that it's different from the previous CS versions?
I played CS:GO for about 3-4 months. I still don't like it and I'm feeling done with it (though it was pretty refreshing at the beginning).
"..and that it's a game to enjoy more than the other CS titles now."
You started to play CS:GO and you apparently enjoy it. That's fine but why the fuck do you believe everyone else should feel the same? You even call people who feel different about this game "ignorant"..
Do you like playing Metal Slug? No? I fucking love it but I don't think you're ignorant because of that.
"I guarantee you that you'll find it a "fun" game."
No, you can't.
"15k+ with more competition and competitive mode and such isn't bad"
Don't lie to yourself. Of course it's bad for a game which is supposed to be the successor of CS 1.6 and CSS.
More competition? I'm sorry but CS 1.6 had more competition even 3 minutes before it died (just take a look at the tournament list of 2011).
Post edited 2012-12-28 23:02:55
People are playing GO because they want something new. CSP is basically just 1.6 with better graphics, and if you can name any serious counter-strike lover who plays the game for the graphics i'll give you a BJ. If you want the 1.6 gameplay then you just play 1.6. That's why CSP aint getting any numbers. The main issue with CS:GO right now is that a lot of people has shitty computers that won't run the game and not everyone affords buying a new PC. (Taz mentioned this aswell).
CSP should not only be what you mentioned. It should include match-making, CSPTV, in-game news and stream functions, fixed bugs from CS 1.6, tweaked (more balanced) maps and new maps in general.
This plus the graphic you mentioned yourself and new sound, player and gun models would make CSP and CS 1.6 a lot different don't you think?
I'm not saying that this is easy and will take no time to make; but it does however make your claim seem a little weak. If all I stated is something that could be implemented in CSP - then I think it's safe to say that CSP should be a lot better than CS 1.6 (assuming the gameplay stays the same in both versions; CSP only improving) when it is "finished".
Will the CSP developers ever fix the features I spoke of? I hope so, maybe you have lost your faith, and that's understandable. But you have to understand, that the idea of CSP isn't only to "copy" CS 1.6; it should end up getting much better ;)
This plus the graphic you mentioned yourself and new sound, player and gun models would make CSP and CS 1.6 a lot different don't you think?
I'm not saying that this is easy and will take no time to make; but it does however make your claim seem a little weak. If all I stated is something that could be implemented in CSP - then I think it's safe to say that CSP should be a lot better than CS 1.6 (assuming the gameplay stays the same in both versions; CSP only improving) when it is "finished".
Will the CSP developers ever fix the features I spoke of? I hope so, maybe you have lost your faith, and that's understandable. But you have to understand, that the idea of CSP isn't only to "copy" CS 1.6; it should end up getting much better ;)
never gonna happen sadly
Maybe you're right, but I don't see Valve trying to create a new "perfect" version of CS anytime soon either. So I think the best option is to support CSP as much as possible - the developers seem to listen at least.
Don't they for GO?
Pro players that met them on LAN tournaments, have a privet forum on steam where they discuss the game and have their own BETA testing recoil and movement...
Garfield doesn't have that support
Pro players that met them on LAN tournaments, have a privet forum on steam where they discuss the game and have their own BETA testing recoil and movement...
Garfield doesn't have that support
any player, pro or not, can go on the promod forums and voice their opinions...
Valve is actually trying to improve CS:GO as much as possible. They are working on the recoil right now. Once all that is done they are going to start on the movement, and a silencer is also comming (from what i've heard for several people including some pro's). I'm sure that CSP will be a good game in the future, but I just don't see it as the next big fps title in e-sports, sadly it will take them way to long, and it's already to late
i bought csgo already
Will CSP become better than CS 1.6? Let's support it and hope so.
It already is. I see no reason to still play 1.6 over promod. Promod is already a better game. The goldsource engine is buggy while the source engine runs much better. Not to mention all the other improvements they are making over 1.6.
Gameplay wise I think it lacks some small but crucial details (before it's better than CS 1.6) though I do think they'll manage to fix them over time.
Nor do I - no reason to play CS 1.6 if you want competitive CS to stay alive /resurrect. No doubt that if everything turns out well for the development team; CSP will improve and become even better than CS 1.6 ever was.
Nor do I - no reason to play CS 1.6 if you want competitive CS to stay alive /resurrect. No doubt that if everything turns out well for the development team; CSP will improve and become even better than CS 1.6 ever was.
People tend to forget that the original CS, as everything began, was made as a Mod from Guys like Minh Le (Gooseman) and Jess Cliffe (cliffe) in the end 90's as Valve wasn't even involved at that Time, so far I am informed. (Got it from Wikipedia. *smile*) Correct me if I am wrong.
So it all started with a Mod and if Pro Mod gets its chance, maybe it will be time to continue with a real Mod for real.
Mods were always packed with the most intense Passion and the best Visions if I look at some Developments from the Past and now.
Sure you Guys play what you love to play, but CS Pro Mod is already a really nice Game, packed with the good old raw Basics of Counter Strike, based on a still good enough looking engine, which most important, runs on almost every PC of the West without Performanceprobs.
To me, I mean if I look ta Promod with high Graphic Settings for example, it made absolutely Sense, that it was their Vision and Maingoal to recreate 1.6 with the Source Engine and it looks really fantastic if you ask me. You got a good great View and clear Visibility to spot Opponents, good Models, rich Colors, crisp Textures and the right and nice Lighting and Shadow Effects in CS Pro Mod now.
And I mean that was the Main Vision and Reason of the Pro Mod Devs, otherwise they never started their Project and let the Guys just play 1.6 with the old Engine. So the Appeal was based on a Plan to recreate CS 1.6 on a modern Engine and they choosed the Source Engine, which was the right Step if I look at the Game now and feel how great it plays.
Seriously Guys, just try Pro Mod and give it a serious Chance and you will see it was worth it. And if you don't like those old school CS Basics on a new Engine, you still have the Option to play Project "Missing Concept" from Valve again. XD
Post edited 2012-12-29 10:51:18
So it all started with a Mod and if Pro Mod gets its chance, maybe it will be time to continue with a real Mod for real.
Mods were always packed with the most intense Passion and the best Visions if I look at some Developments from the Past and now.
Sure you Guys play what you love to play, but CS Pro Mod is already a really nice Game, packed with the good old raw Basics of Counter Strike, based on a still good enough looking engine, which most important, runs on almost every PC of the West without Performanceprobs.
To me, I mean if I look ta Promod with high Graphic Settings for example, it made absolutely Sense, that it was their Vision and Maingoal to recreate 1.6 with the Source Engine and it looks really fantastic if you ask me. You got a good great View and clear Visibility to spot Opponents, good Models, rich Colors, crisp Textures and the right and nice Lighting and Shadow Effects in CS Pro Mod now.
And I mean that was the Main Vision and Reason of the Pro Mod Devs, otherwise they never started their Project and let the Guys just play 1.6 with the old Engine. So the Appeal was based on a Plan to recreate CS 1.6 on a modern Engine and they choosed the Source Engine, which was the right Step if I look at the Game now and feel how great it plays.
Seriously Guys, just try Pro Mod and give it a serious Chance and you will see it was worth it. And if you don't like those old school CS Basics on a new Engine, you still have the Option to play Project "Missing Concept" from Valve again. XD
Post edited 2012-12-29 10:51:18
The question still remains; does it look good enough for sponsors to spend money on it? I think not. Other than that I agree with you.
The question is , does anyone care enough to even play this game??
http://www.game-monitor.com/GameSearch/cspromod2/C..
Less then 100 players online at peek times , the answer is no
http://www.game-monitor.com/GameSearch/cspromod2/C..
Less then 100 players online at peek times , the answer is no
this
Yes, well that's what blogs like this are trying to remedy.
It's ridiculous for 1.6 players to be playing csgo instead of promod. Only the professional players who only care what game tournaments will host have a good reason to play csgo.
It's ridiculous for 1.6 players to be playing csgo instead of promod. Only the professional players who only care what game tournaments will host have a good reason to play csgo.
Absolutely it does... it looks just as good as any other source engine game... it only looked crappy when they had the temporary models & animations in 1.09.
Games with extreme graphics like BF3 and crysis would never work for a competitive game because only 5-10% of people can run those games with the fps needed for competitive play.
Games with extreme graphics like BF3 and crysis would never work for a competitive game because only 5-10% of people can run those games with the fps needed for competitive play.
100% agree. No idea why people who hated CSS would now play csgo instead of promod.
Promod is completely playable now. There's no reason to play CSS or CSGO rather than promod.
Promod is completely playable now. There's no reason to play CSS or CSGO rather than promod.
Instead of wasting my time identifying why CSGO is crashing to a BSOD, I'd rather play Promod.
Numbers wont increase till it gets greenlight as most of the people outside hltv.org don't know bout it
go promod
Just deal with the fact casual 1.6 players want to play 1.6? Also deal with the fact people like csgo and no matter how much you bitch about it, they wont stop.
until promod is picked up by tournaments :)
it won´t be long, if a game as horrible as csgo was picked up.
play whatever you want, but if you TRY promod you will NEVER touch go again
it won´t be long, if a game as horrible as csgo was picked up.
play whatever you want, but if you TRY promod you will NEVER touch go again
I did, it was horrible, worse than Source.
I would rather play original 1.6 than horrible clone of 1.6.
I would rather play original 1.6 than horrible clone of 1.6.
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