The Swedish eSports Wonder is finally explained!
2013-03-03 13:20
Ever wondered what's the secret behind Swedish teams and players success?

The truth is out there!

from russia with love!
2013-03-03 13:23:58
by: odr@
#2
EG style lol, nice
2013-03-03 13:24:04
nice blog cArn :P
2013-03-03 13:25:46
CGO's have too much time.
2013-03-03 13:26:36
Meatballs... who would have thought??
2013-03-03 13:26:36
horse-meatballs to be exact
2013-03-03 13:56:16
"LETS RUN BEFORE THEY FINDUS"
2013-03-03 15:08:28
HAHA
2013-03-03 19:56:57
by: olofm
#6
its the horse in the meatballs :D
2013-03-03 13:28:18
by: adzer
#7
Hahaha
2013-03-03 13:28:41
Does carn still live in taiwan?

If so, can he speak putonghua yet?:D
2013-03-03 13:34:15
haha :D 1337-dna... that makes actually sense
2013-03-03 13:39:17
by: rizc
#10
Loved it :D
2013-03-03 13:39:19
horse meatballs how nice! Sase stronk Fnatic stronk = stronk future.
2013-03-03 13:42:32
cool one:D
2013-03-03 13:55:24
horse-meatballs from ikea are the best.
2013-03-03 13:55:48
wtf?
2013-03-03 14:04:12
This makes sense.
2013-03-03 14:07:12
carn, where is your into elysium movie?

Post edited 2013-03-03 14:12:51
2013-03-03 14:12:26
+1
2013-03-03 15:53:54
nice one carn
2013-03-03 14:12:32
Potti already spilled the beans on the swedish secret.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMTN5bAxlzU
2013-03-03 14:22:14
+1 <3 kebab
2013-03-03 20:20:07
by: rKj
#20
lol Patrik smoke some good shit :D
2013-03-03 14:23:51
HJAHAHAHA
2013-03-03 14:31:59
By swedish success you mean being dominant at 1.6, having 2 or 3 good SC2 and having the current top1 at GO, nothing more.

Take a look at koreans or americans= LoL, SC2, top 1.6 teams, top source and GO teams (USA), WoW, etc...

EDIT: Is this even worth a blog? Why doesn't this go to the Off-topic section? Oh wait it's carn.

Post edited 2013-03-03 14:34:01
2013-03-03 14:32:11
lil' cave troll attempt
2013-03-03 15:04:03
yep that's a troll attemp













in Italy.
2013-03-03 15:18:44
i mean i can agree with what you've wrote about the americans and koreans.. but you can deny the fact that sweden produce talented gamers every year.. you sound more like a carn/sweden hater
2013-03-03 16:22:05
they produce I agree, but he generalizes saying in all eSports areas, that's not true and you know it.
2013-03-03 23:40:11
bad use of therm "produce" imo
2013-03-04 15:00:18
he's right, Sweden is good in CS 1.6 only I would say, CS:GO is only NiP because lemondogs like decent team and epsilon uses organner so don't even count, They have 2-3 good sc2 players, but still they aren't close to be the best in europe, I only know about CS and SC2 players from Sweden, in football they are decent as well, they are mainly there because of ibrahimovic who is actually from some balkan country but having swedish citizenship, they are good in hockey, and that's it

While Germany,USA,Korea and some on are almost good in everything.. Sweden think they are the best in CS, they are the best in everything, sad truth :D
2013-03-03 17:30:54
36 xD
2013-03-03 17:31:39
yeah Sweden produce talents in CS 1.6/CS:GO and that's all
2013-03-03 17:32:51
#71
2013-03-03 18:59:29
#hello
2013-03-04 01:14:17
Germany? Please. In what game has Germany ever had a true top notch player/team?
2013-03-08 05:52:52
They have had some topresults in 1.6. Attax and mouz were considered among top3 at some times.
2013-03-13 12:07:48
Not a chance. They might have placed top3 at some events yes, but that's about it. They were never a consistent top3 team during a full year. Mouz was close to being a top3 team but never quite got there. They were top4-top5 at best.

Post edited 2013-03-14 04:06:47
2013-03-14 04:06:24
Attax had a really good run, backwhen WSVG was played. They even beat 3D in the final and they played amazing for over half a year, untill some of their players left and joined up with mouz.

I would still consider mouz as a top3 team when they had their superstar cyx.
2013-03-14 19:59:52
attax were really good for some months yes, but i still dont consider them a top3 team for that year. mouz came close with cyx in 2008. and even if they were a top3 team for one year in one game, what does that say about the german vs the swedish scene?
2013-03-15 21:23:50
I havent said anything about swedes, I just pointed out that germans have had top3 teams :)
2013-03-16 17:17:21
Only for a very brief moment of time, if even that. Anyway, the guy claiming the german scene is/was better than the swedish is way off, is all I'm saying.
2013-03-18 02:22:58
But they have the piratebay, never forget the piratebay:D
2013-03-03 17:11:21
Jinro, only foreigner to have reached GSL ro4 and he did it twice in a row. Naniwa ro8.

ThorZaIN first foreigner to win a PL-game since 2003 or something like that. Toxic dominated Quake for a while. CS 1.6 insane domination.
2013-03-03 18:59:07
I've mentioned SC2, even tho there was better countries.

As for Quake, I remembered some swedish players, but there was always someone better.
2013-03-03 23:42:46
Sweden is the best country after Korea in SC2, we're completely dominating CS, we've been pretty good in Quake, Trackmania etc.

Sweden is without a doubt overall the best esport country.
2013-03-04 00:29:11
lol American SC2 is still better than swedish one.

lol you are so saying that because you're swedish, you are forgetting Korea.

Trackmania you were just "present" and Quake you weren't the top contenders. CSS you were no one lol. WoW? LoL? DotA2 hasn't gone official so I can't talk. CoDs? lol seriously stop being biased, you are good, but face it both Korean and American scene is better than yours.
2013-03-04 00:41:26
American SC2-players better than swedes? WTF are you saying?

There's like 4 Swedes who are better than the best american player (Scarlett/IdrA).
2013-03-04 00:46:06
lol no.
2013-03-04 00:51:15
You surely know nothing about the SC2-scene.

http://sc2earnings.com/

Even fucking SjoW is before any American except IdrA.

Post edited 2013-03-04 00:57:32
2013-03-04 00:56:16
earnings.

btw polish better than you.

edit: http://sc2earnings.com/?year=2013 :ccccccc

Post edited 2013-03-04 01:03:17
2013-03-04 01:00:01
The reason for that is that NaniwA and thorzain has been living in Korea for a pretty long while. Competition is harder and the money is less unless you're in the top placings.

However, I would definitely consider Nerchio and Mana to be as good/a bit better/a bit worse then NaniWa and thorzain, they're very close. But the Americans are very far behind.
2013-03-04 01:03:01
First Scarlett is Canadian, and if you consider IdrA as the best american player, you're wrong, btw Russians, Ukrainians, Germans and French are pretty good at this game aswell, Stephano can beat any swedish player easily, even AureS owned 2-0 Naniwa, swedish players aren't dominating SC2 in Europe.
And btw, atm ThorZaiN is struggling to reach his best level.

Post edited 2013-03-04 15:06:47
2013-03-04 15:05:52
Idra is not the best american player. At the moment I would probably consider Goswser to be the best.
2013-03-04 20:13:15
And he's nowhere near the swedes. Pretty much every american is bad atm.

Post edited 2013-03-04 21:09:11
2013-03-04 21:09:02
What? I really hate Goswser but his results are pretty impressive. It is not like the swedes have been performing that well lately.
2013-03-05 23:27:21
"Quake you weren't the top contenders"
Are you drunk or just clueless?
2013-03-04 22:15:48
#138
2013-03-04 23:42:44
List of top Swedish Quake players, off the top of my head:

Lakerman
Blue
Fooki
Fox
Zamuz
Fazz
Toxic
Spartie
Purri
Prozac
Ztrider
Ooze


Americans:

Thresh
Immortal
Fatality
Zero4
czm
Socrates
Destrukt
Chaoticz
Daler
Rapha
Dahang
Chance

Score: 12-12. Given the US had by far the bigger scene, that's pretty damn impressive from the Swedes.

Edit: read more of your posts, realised I've been trolled. At least I got a nice trip down memory lane for my trouble :)

Post edited 2013-03-05 13:14:01
2013-03-05 13:12:32
There's more to Quake than QL duel.
2013-03-05 17:01:12
Fnatic.CoD4 was pretty damn good. CSS, WoW and LoL are all trash games and not "true esport". Many people might argue that but it's true. But for the sake of the argument: Sweden had good players/teams in CSS. WoW I never followed much but it was never that big in Sweden (3on3 arena that is). LoL is still a young game that hasnt been very popular in Sweden, at least not up until now. I'm sure the country could muster up a good team if they just went for it. Talent is there (just look at Rekkles).

True esport = CS, Quake, StarCraft, DotA.
2013-03-08 05:57:50
France > Sweden in Trackmania, These last years, no swedish quake player was able to compete with people like rapha, cypher etc.
"Sweden is without a doubt overall the best esport country."
And as I said in #136, There are a quite a few of european players, who are better than Naniwa and ThorZaiN.
2013-03-04 15:10:00
Quakelive duel is not really representative of Quake as a whole. Even so, Spartie, Fazz and Purri where all competitive throughout the games lifespan, albeit never as consistent as Rapha and Cypher. QL TDM was completely dominated by Sweden, as usual.

In fact, TDM's been pretty much a competition for 2nd place for the past decade.
2013-03-05 17:33:13
We have been successful in Quake Live and Trackmaina too.

United States population = 315,602,000
Korea = 50,004,441
Sweden = 9,555,893

..
2013-03-03 19:49:44
Are you starting with the population factory seriously?

You know I can "climate" and the population theory of yours is just shut down?
2013-03-03 23:44:20
That doesn't mean shit, swedish people are just more attracted by eSport games, than any other country in Europe. It's not being better because someone is swedish that doesn't make any sense.
2013-03-04 15:08:36
Indeed, I would say Sweden is succesful in e-sports since it is more accepted there than in most other countries. Not because they are born from a specific country.

However, It's hard to deny the fact that Sweden has alot of talented players in most e-sport games. For example, CS,SC2,Dota2,LoL,Fifa. With the first three games in particular.
2013-03-04 15:18:10
Well, since european dota is shit compared to chinese dota, can't agree on that one, but overall yeah you're right.
2013-03-04 15:31:26
Not sure if stupid or trolling.

http://sc2earnings.com/

Thorzain #20
Naniwa #21

Idra #27

Sjow #41

Idra is only one from the US on top 50 most earning in SC2.
2013-03-04 01:02:28
check 2013 bro.
2013-03-04 01:40:45
We're only two months into 2013 roflmao.

Your whole argument is flawed.
2013-03-05 15:17:40
because we are only with 3 months in 2013? lol, my argument is invalid because you say so.


mad swedes are mad
2013-03-05 18:09:26
Your argument is invalid.
2013-03-05 22:22:30
A swede just also won FIFA13 World Cup and 125 000 dollars in Las Vegas.

We're also strong in DotA2 and WoW.
2013-03-04 03:29:04
no you aren't.
2013-03-04 16:28:29
If you would follow the WoW scene you would see that there are a LOT of swedes in the top. Also in dota2 and HoN.
2013-03-04 18:12:21
stop being blind, just because you got players in the scene doesn't mean you are top because of that.
2013-03-04 19:30:53
We're at least in top 3 so yeah.. the scene sucks anyway
2013-03-04 19:35:28
HoN, dota2, big WoW players, CS, GO, pretty good SC2 players, NOT BAD.jpg
2013-03-04 18:22:47
Obviously it's not a 100% serious video by any means, but you cant deny that Sweden has produced some of the finest gamers out there. Also you cant really compare to USA or Korea. Korea is the biggest gaming country out there and well, how many more times the population of Sweden does USA have? :)

Still, Sweden has dominated 1.6, is dominating CS:GO. Had one of the greatest Quake players of all time. Had probably the second best DotA team of all time (former SK team) and also a couple of great SC2 players in SaSe, Jinro, ThorZaiN, NaNiwa.

For a country that small, I'd say it's pretty damn good.
2013-03-08 05:49:16
you are stupid. obviously we're talking about 1.6 here and this was the most competitive and popular game for many years. of all countries, sweden has always had the best teams/players. comparing sweden to the us, is ridiculous. sweden has 10 million citizen whereas the us 300 million citizen. besides, I think sweden has more than just top notch 1.6/ csgo / sc2 players. I think the secret behind sweden's success is a cold climate and a good digital infrastructure.
2013-03-10 10:34:54
Swedish government helping esports?
2013-03-03 14:48:22
sverok helps swedish organisations that serves the swedish population.

for example brutalcs.nu
2013-03-04 19:38:00
ty :p what is sverok?

Post edited 2013-03-04 19:49:46
2013-03-04 19:48:54
an "ungdomsförbund". no clue how to say that in english
2013-03-04 20:59:26
lol xD using some translators into german/english/swedish its something like a youth organisation?
2013-03-04 21:07:57
So fucking awkward
2013-03-03 15:01:55
this is pure brilliance
2013-03-03 15:08:01
indeed :D
2013-03-03 15:18:33
hahaha was amazing
2013-03-03 15:18:19
ROFLMAO
2013-03-03 15:35:29
i like sweden because of Malmsteen.
2013-03-03 15:41:10
<3 abba
2013-03-03 15:41:30
Nice one :D


I got another mystery for you:


Why can't Swedish people pronounce the simple word "just"? They seem to have a general problem with the letter "J"...

Tongue malfunction or the result of super-AIDS?

jk


Btw: Ikea furniture sucks! Absolutely no quality. Money back or Blitzkrieg!

Post edited 2013-03-03 16:12:48
2013-03-03 16:07:45
Poland put an end to the blitzkrieg in September '39 :)

Post edited 2013-03-03 16:25:30
2013-03-03 16:25:09
ikea furniture can easily last 30-40 years as long as you treat them normally.
2013-03-03 16:35:02
bought fake-leather couch 4 years ago at Ikea. it's already full of cracks and looks wasted though I always treated it "normal" and I really took care on it.

Post edited 2013-03-03 17:38:17
2013-03-03 17:29:10
I have no problem pronouncing "just", and I don't think most swedes do. It's a matter of dialect though, and we have plenty of different ones here. Carn is very very swedish (swenglish) in the way he pronounces english words. Does that really bother you that much?
2013-03-03 16:36:21
zaihtaM and many other Swedes do the same.

"Does that really bother you that much?"

Yes. Can't sleep anymore. It makes me go crazy. Always hearing Swedish voices in my head, mispronouncing "just".



Post edited 2013-03-03 17:37:01
2013-03-03 17:32:06
^^
2013-03-03 19:02:48
I can prononunce the word "just" without any stutter or accent. I'm accent neutral when I speak in English.

These swedes who talks with accents are people living outside Stockholm. They don't speak "metro swedish".

I lived in a soho-area for 13 years, I basically lived at a place where the general Swede is rich.

By that, Södermalm in Stockholm (south-central Stockholm). All these people who had problems pronouncing are oftenly people who had less quality in terms of English in school. :)

ZaihtaM lives outside Stockholm and talks with a södermanlandstype of Swedish. Which basically is a Swedish where you prononunce the words stronger than "Metro Swedish".

For instance if you ask him to pronounce seven, he'd pronounce it a bit stronger and with less vocal. By that, he doesn't talk nasally he talks from his throat mainly.

Post edited 2013-03-03 19:59:17
2013-03-03 19:57:28
The Swedish we speak in my town (Nynäshamn) is to 99% the same Swedish the people in Stockholm speaks, I only live 40 minutes away from Stockholm :)

My English is most likely "bad" because of other factors.
2013-03-03 21:55:10
Nynäshamn is not far away from Stockholm but has a different tone of accent.

People in Västerås speaks also another accent and they live not far away from here either. (45mins from Stockholm)

The only factor that your english verbally is broken is because of the fact that you live outside Stockholm which doesnt give you the tools or the education quality in comparisation to Stockholms innercity schools.

Nynäshamn is also an own muncipality but is for some funny reason added to the same county.

Its basically an own town outside Stockholm that is inside Stockholms county strangely enough.
2013-03-03 22:21:17
wheres GeT_RiGhT from? isnt he from Stockholm? hes like the perfect example of mispronouncing "just/join/enjoy" :D
2013-03-03 23:16:26
I dont know where he is originally from in Sweden but he lives like 2-3 minutes away from me.

I live in the same area as him. And he have lived here for the past years i guess so.

And this is suburb Stockholm, 10-15 minutes away from central with train. A little place called Spånga, I live at the border of the place.
2013-03-03 23:21:46
You could never tell the difference between someone from Nynäshamn and someone from Stockholm just from the way they speak.

Basically the only difference we have is that we pronounce "ö" a bit differently, but that is very subtle.
2013-03-04 00:32:19
You can do that if your a metro stockholmare. I'm a metro guy, raised in the better areas of Stockholm

I can tell the difference between someone from central Stockholm / suburbs and regular villagers like you :)

Sörmländska is different from regular Stockholmska. The vocals are pronounced different and it has less accent in the words.

Post edited 2013-03-04 02:28:13
2013-03-04 02:26:54
Haha yes! Everytime I hear a Swede say just without saying the "ch" sound, I mock them for it :D
2013-03-03 17:14:22
"ch" sound in just o_O?
2013-03-03 20:24:30
it's like "dchust" or "djøst" you know :D
2013-03-03 21:05:21
Yea, I'd personally go with "dj.." :D

Post edited 2013-03-03 21:12:12
2013-03-03 21:11:52
I was thinking that at first, but it could sound like I was talking about a DJ or something :D DJ Ust in da hooouse!
2013-03-03 23:09:02
:DD
2013-03-03 23:09:40
tz maybe? or tza:)

Post edited 2013-03-04 00:55:05
2013-03-04 00:54:53
Don't think that would fit in the word "just" :P
2013-03-04 14:48:19
tzast like that:)
2013-03-04 15:49:40
Well in my head there are a lot of ways to say it :P Djust, Gjust etc. I guess it depens how you pronounce it ;)
2013-03-04 19:16:55
yeap,but look at this,T and Z are letters that are pronnounced the same (90% of times at least).
so if u want to explain to someone how this is pronnounced,its a perfect example :)
2013-03-04 19:50:45
Yeah I see your point ;)
2013-03-04 21:18:25
bitches love accents
2013-03-04 03:43:26
Really dramatic history :D
2013-03-03 16:24:13
Nice video :)
2013-03-03 16:24:17
a good video
2013-03-03 16:39:26
n1 cArn :d
2013-03-03 16:40:28
hehe nice
2013-03-03 16:40:36
which game does the players play, who are in 2012-13 year ?
2013-03-03 16:55:15
I think ThorZaiN is a SC2 player, and TheBorasLegend is a FIFA player :)
2013-03-03 17:17:23
i was asking about rekkles, not thorzain



2013-03-03 17:46:51
Oh, I do apologize! he is a LoL player I assume ;)
2013-03-03 17:52:38
1nn1
2013-03-03 16:57:38
Wouldn't a blog from a normal user like this get deleted? :)
2013-03-03 17:14:22
lmao nice vid !
2013-03-03 17:16:37
swedes play computer games 24/7 and are nolife, always thought that, if u take out the computer of swede, he will suicide, because his entire life is just a computer
2013-03-03 17:17:01
You can't be german.
2013-03-03 19:00:18
Because germans love swedes!
2013-03-04 01:31:44
<3
2013-03-04 02:29:14
=)
2013-03-04 05:27:24
only the girls ^^
2013-03-04 18:22:04
You're contradicting yourself in your own comment, I'm not going to point out where because you're a troll.
2013-03-03 19:11:40
Exactly
2013-03-04 18:14:04
very entertaining carn tack and thanks
2013-03-03 17:21:09
500+ likes, 300+ views. seems legit
2013-03-03 17:25:51
what a bullshit, but hey it's carnlol so it doesn't get deleted.
2013-03-03 17:27:49
by: proutounz - HLTV.org
#58
genius :D

Post edited 2013-03-03 17:30:42
2013-03-03 17:30:06
by: alex! - HLTV.org
#63
:D
2013-03-03 17:43:09
by: m0o
#65
haha quality
2013-03-03 17:49:50
Horseballs from ikea.
2013-03-03 18:04:22
not funny
2013-03-03 18:06:52
1337 hand mutation :DDDD & brainwashed by abba music :DD

Post edited 2013-03-03 18:14:10
2013-03-03 18:13:39
funny stuff
2013-03-03 18:55:36
a nation proud on being good in computer games, quite pathetic
2013-03-03 19:05:01
yeah, south korea is also another pathetic country, oh wait.
2013-03-03 19:07:01
4-4 XDDDD
2013-03-03 21:07:59
in the next matchup you will get raped
2013-03-06 02:50:39
haha true story :D:D
2013-03-03 23:13:12
Yes, the entire nation is quite proud about that.

Post edited 2013-03-04 00:32:45
2013-03-04 00:32:35
so true.
2013-03-04 01:01:51
that would be like if america were proud to be fat
2013-03-04 12:01:55
haha true story
2013-03-04 15:22:37
pretty sure they are
2013-03-04 17:58:25
probably
2013-03-05 15:05:08
Yeah cArn making a video about it makes the whole country proud of computer games.
2013-03-04 18:15:44
brilliant, loved it.

<3 fnatic
2013-03-03 19:06:31
mama mia
2013-03-03 19:10:07
damn, I knew it...
2013-03-03 19:48:20
who's the chick at 0:23?
2013-03-03 19:50:54
That's Nina Persson (The Cardigans).
2013-03-03 21:18:57
where is SpawN :D
2013-03-03 19:51:49
Mmmm... meatballs.
2013-03-03 21:07:43
THE WINNER TAKES IT ALL
2013-03-03 21:13:40
Too good!
2013-03-03 21:58:27
Enjoyed..:D
2013-03-04 01:00:01
lool
1337 injection
2013-03-04 09:54:36
I find this video to be a conspiracy within itself as the storyteller, Björn, reminds me a lot of carn himself! And their voices are impeccably similar. Studying this video further, the laptop Björn is using is a MSI laptop, which Carn also have, and is in fact sponsored by them. I'm not entirely sure, but there's definitely something up here.
2013-03-04 11:43:30
So much hate in this thread. Not everyone plays video games in Sweden.
2013-03-04 16:57:16
Yes we all do, we can't live without them and everyone in Sweden is proud of how good we are in computer games. There's also Polar bears running around on the streets and we're all gay.
2013-03-04 18:17:26
always thought is something wrong with sweden
2013-03-04 19:18:13
You're either 12 or not German.
2013-03-04 19:21:09
why so mad:D
2013-03-04 19:22:52
Why do you think I'm mad? I'm just stating the truth, right?
2013-03-04 19:23:52
I don't think so
2013-03-04 19:24:30
We'll I'm sure of it.
2013-03-04 19:26:48
ok
2013-03-04 19:27:37
sweden can infact eat my short, im global bitch thx
2013-03-05 01:58:03
germans cheaters and not good in esports :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc8dyjodK4Q
2013-03-04 20:45:16
Great video, but im wondering who was the guy behind the fake mustache, eyebrows and hair? =)=)=)=)))))

Post edited 2013-03-04 21:01:48
2013-03-04 21:01:38
haha, great video mates
2013-03-04 21:08:41
ahah funny
2013-03-05 06:20:29
I went for the meatballs
2013-03-05 13:01:59
There is only one thing : CS SCHOOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CNDlKPXNz8&fea..
2013-03-05 13:02:13
nice
2013-03-05 14:42:01
lol
bit.ly/X7SvXA
2013-03-05 14:50:47
haha amazing
2013-03-05 14:55:49
lol so many jealous upset flag faking poles in this thread.

How sad that people who get upset by this video can't understand that it's just for fun and a part of the release of their new SC2 player SaSe.

If you hate Sweden fine i don't give a fuck but then atleast plz get a sense of humour.
2013-03-05 22:20:43
i hate swedes only at PokerStars they tilt me out shit of me
2013-03-06 09:08:07
Don't know who the guy at 2013 on the timeline is but I would make a case for your follow up in fnatic last year, Richard Landstrom.
if he keeps up his stellar form for the rest of the year he will most likely be CS player of the year, and perhaps even E-sports player of the year.
2013-03-06 19:21:41
player ofthe decade for sure,rappingneo like a bitch
2013-03-14 04:08:53
XD
Neo & co do keep getting better
Even win nip without pistol wins yesterday!
2013-03-14 13:20:41
i can't watch it anymore D: HELP !
2013-04-07 16:21:12

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