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The Swedish eSports Wonder is finally explained!
2013-03-03 13:20
Ever wondered what's the secret behind Swedish teams and players success?
The truth is out there!
The truth is out there!
EG style lol, nice
nice blog cArn :P
Meatballs... who would have thought??
horse-meatballs to be exact
"LETS RUN BEFORE THEY FINDUS"
Does carn still live in taiwan?
If so, can he speak putonghua yet?:D
If so, can he speak putonghua yet?:D
horse meatballs how nice! Sase stronk Fnatic stronk = stronk future.
horse-meatballs from ikea are the best.
wtf?
nice one carn
+1 <3 kebab
HJAHAHAHA
By swedish success you mean being dominant at 1.6, having 2 or 3 good SC2 and having the current top1 at GO, nothing more.
Take a look at koreans or americans= LoL, SC2, top 1.6 teams, top source and GO teams (USA), WoW, etc...
EDIT: Is this even worth a blog? Why doesn't this go to the Off-topic section? Oh wait it's carn.
Post edited 2013-03-03 14:34:01
Take a look at koreans or americans= LoL, SC2, top 1.6 teams, top source and GO teams (USA), WoW, etc...
EDIT: Is this even worth a blog? Why doesn't this go to the Off-topic section? Oh wait it's carn.
Post edited 2013-03-03 14:34:01
lil' cave troll attempt
yep that's a troll attemp
in Italy.
in Italy.
i mean i can agree with what you've wrote about the americans and koreans.. but you can deny the fact that sweden produce talented gamers every year.. you sound more like a carn/sweden hater
they produce I agree, but he generalizes saying in all eSports areas, that's not true and you know it.
he's right, Sweden is good in CS 1.6 only I would say, CS:GO is only NiP because lemondogs like decent team and epsilon uses organner so don't even count, They have 2-3 good sc2 players, but still they aren't close to be the best in europe, I only know about CS and SC2 players from Sweden, in football they are decent as well, they are mainly there because of ibrahimovic who is actually from some balkan country but having swedish citizenship, they are good in hockey, and that's it
While Germany,USA,Korea and some on are almost good in everything.. Sweden think they are the best in CS, they are the best in everything, sad truth :D
While Germany,USA,Korea and some on are almost good in everything.. Sweden think they are the best in CS, they are the best in everything, sad truth :D
Germany? Please. In what game has Germany ever had a true top notch player/team?
They have had some topresults in 1.6. Attax and mouz were considered among top3 at some times.
Not a chance. They might have placed top3 at some events yes, but that's about it. They were never a consistent top3 team during a full year. Mouz was close to being a top3 team but never quite got there. They were top4-top5 at best.
Post edited 2013-03-14 04:06:47
Post edited 2013-03-14 04:06:47
Attax had a really good run, backwhen WSVG was played. They even beat 3D in the final and they played amazing for over half a year, untill some of their players left and joined up with mouz.
I would still consider mouz as a top3 team when they had their superstar cyx.
I would still consider mouz as a top3 team when they had their superstar cyx.
attax were really good for some months yes, but i still dont consider them a top3 team for that year. mouz came close with cyx in 2008. and even if they were a top3 team for one year in one game, what does that say about the german vs the swedish scene?
But they have the piratebay, never forget the piratebay:D
Jinro, only foreigner to have reached GSL ro4 and he did it twice in a row. Naniwa ro8.
ThorZaIN first foreigner to win a PL-game since 2003 or something like that. Toxic dominated Quake for a while. CS 1.6 insane domination.
ThorZaIN first foreigner to win a PL-game since 2003 or something like that. Toxic dominated Quake for a while. CS 1.6 insane domination.
I've mentioned SC2, even tho there was better countries.
As for Quake, I remembered some swedish players, but there was always someone better.
As for Quake, I remembered some swedish players, but there was always someone better.
Sweden is the best country after Korea in SC2, we're completely dominating CS, we've been pretty good in Quake, Trackmania etc.
Sweden is without a doubt overall the best esport country.
Sweden is without a doubt overall the best esport country.
lol American SC2 is still better than swedish one.
lol you are so saying that because you're swedish, you are forgetting Korea.
Trackmania you were just "present" and Quake you weren't the top contenders. CSS you were no one lol. WoW? LoL? DotA2 hasn't gone official so I can't talk. CoDs? lol seriously stop being biased, you are good, but face it both Korean and American scene is better than yours.
lol you are so saying that because you're swedish, you are forgetting Korea.
Trackmania you were just "present" and Quake you weren't the top contenders. CSS you were no one lol. WoW? LoL? DotA2 hasn't gone official so I can't talk. CoDs? lol seriously stop being biased, you are good, but face it both Korean and American scene is better than yours.
American SC2-players better than swedes? WTF are you saying?
There's like 4 Swedes who are better than the best american player (Scarlett/IdrA).
There's like 4 Swedes who are better than the best american player (Scarlett/IdrA).
lol no.
You surely know nothing about the SC2-scene.
http://sc2earnings.com/
Even fucking SjoW is before any American except IdrA.
Post edited 2013-03-04 00:57:32
http://sc2earnings.com/
Even fucking SjoW is before any American except IdrA.
Post edited 2013-03-04 00:57:32
earnings.
btw polish better than you.
edit: http://sc2earnings.com/?year=2013 :ccccccc
Post edited 2013-03-04 01:03:17
btw polish better than you.
edit: http://sc2earnings.com/?year=2013 :ccccccc
Post edited 2013-03-04 01:03:17
The reason for that is that NaniwA and thorzain has been living in Korea for a pretty long while. Competition is harder and the money is less unless you're in the top placings.
However, I would definitely consider Nerchio and Mana to be as good/a bit better/a bit worse then NaniWa and thorzain, they're very close. But the Americans are very far behind.
However, I would definitely consider Nerchio and Mana to be as good/a bit better/a bit worse then NaniWa and thorzain, they're very close. But the Americans are very far behind.
First Scarlett is Canadian, and if you consider IdrA as the best american player, you're wrong, btw Russians, Ukrainians, Germans and French are pretty good at this game aswell, Stephano can beat any swedish player easily, even AureS owned 2-0 Naniwa, swedish players aren't dominating SC2 in Europe.
And btw, atm ThorZaiN is struggling to reach his best level.
Post edited 2013-03-04 15:06:47
And btw, atm ThorZaiN is struggling to reach his best level.
Post edited 2013-03-04 15:06:47
Idra is not the best american player. At the moment I would probably consider Goswser to be the best.
"Quake you weren't the top contenders"
Are you drunk or just clueless?
Are you drunk or just clueless?
#138
List of top Swedish Quake players, off the top of my head:
Lakerman
Blue
Fooki
Fox
Zamuz
Fazz
Toxic
Spartie
Purri
Prozac
Ztrider
Ooze
Americans:
Thresh
Immortal
Fatality
Zero4
czm
Socrates
Destrukt
Chaoticz
Daler
Rapha
Dahang
Chance
Score: 12-12. Given the US had by far the bigger scene, that's pretty damn impressive from the Swedes.
Edit: read more of your posts, realised I've been trolled. At least I got a nice trip down memory lane for my trouble :)
Post edited 2013-03-05 13:14:01
Lakerman
Blue
Fooki
Fox
Zamuz
Fazz
Toxic
Spartie
Purri
Prozac
Ztrider
Ooze
Americans:
Thresh
Immortal
Fatality
Zero4
czm
Socrates
Destrukt
Chaoticz
Daler
Rapha
Dahang
Chance
Score: 12-12. Given the US had by far the bigger scene, that's pretty damn impressive from the Swedes.
Edit: read more of your posts, realised I've been trolled. At least I got a nice trip down memory lane for my trouble :)
Post edited 2013-03-05 13:14:01
Fnatic.CoD4 was pretty damn good. CSS, WoW and LoL are all trash games and not "true esport". Many people might argue that but it's true. But for the sake of the argument: Sweden had good players/teams in CSS. WoW I never followed much but it was never that big in Sweden (3on3 arena that is). LoL is still a young game that hasnt been very popular in Sweden, at least not up until now. I'm sure the country could muster up a good team if they just went for it. Talent is there (just look at Rekkles).
True esport = CS, Quake, StarCraft, DotA.
True esport = CS, Quake, StarCraft, DotA.
France > Sweden in Trackmania, These last years, no swedish quake player was able to compete with people like rapha, cypher etc.
"Sweden is without a doubt overall the best esport country."
And as I said in #136, There are a quite a few of european players, who are better than Naniwa and ThorZaiN.
"Sweden is without a doubt overall the best esport country."
And as I said in #136, There are a quite a few of european players, who are better than Naniwa and ThorZaiN.
Quakelive duel is not really representative of Quake as a whole. Even so, Spartie, Fazz and Purri where all competitive throughout the games lifespan, albeit never as consistent as Rapha and Cypher. QL TDM was completely dominated by Sweden, as usual.
In fact, TDM's been pretty much a competition for 2nd place for the past decade.
In fact, TDM's been pretty much a competition for 2nd place for the past decade.
We have been successful in Quake Live and Trackmaina too.
United States population = 315,602,000
Korea = 50,004,441
Sweden = 9,555,893
..
United States population = 315,602,000
Korea = 50,004,441
Sweden = 9,555,893
..
Are you starting with the population factory seriously?
You know I can "climate" and the population theory of yours is just shut down?
You know I can "climate" and the population theory of yours is just shut down?
That doesn't mean shit, swedish people are just more attracted by eSport games, than any other country in Europe. It's not being better because someone is swedish that doesn't make any sense.
Indeed, I would say Sweden is succesful in e-sports since it is more accepted there than in most other countries. Not because they are born from a specific country.
However, It's hard to deny the fact that Sweden has alot of talented players in most e-sport games. For example, CS,SC2,Dota2,LoL,Fifa. With the first three games in particular.
However, It's hard to deny the fact that Sweden has alot of talented players in most e-sport games. For example, CS,SC2,Dota2,LoL,Fifa. With the first three games in particular.
Not sure if stupid or trolling.
http://sc2earnings.com/
Thorzain #20
Naniwa #21
Idra #27
Sjow #41
Idra is only one from the US on top 50 most earning in SC2.
http://sc2earnings.com/
Thorzain #20
Naniwa #21
Idra #27
Sjow #41
Idra is only one from the US on top 50 most earning in SC2.
A swede just also won FIFA13 World Cup and 125 000 dollars in Las Vegas.
We're also strong in DotA2 and WoW.
We're also strong in DotA2 and WoW.
HoN, dota2, big WoW players, CS, GO, pretty good SC2 players, NOT BAD.jpg
Obviously it's not a 100% serious video by any means, but you cant deny that Sweden has produced some of the finest gamers out there. Also you cant really compare to USA or Korea. Korea is the biggest gaming country out there and well, how many more times the population of Sweden does USA have? :)
Still, Sweden has dominated 1.6, is dominating CS:GO. Had one of the greatest Quake players of all time. Had probably the second best DotA team of all time (former SK team) and also a couple of great SC2 players in SaSe, Jinro, ThorZaiN, NaNiwa.
For a country that small, I'd say it's pretty damn good.
Still, Sweden has dominated 1.6, is dominating CS:GO. Had one of the greatest Quake players of all time. Had probably the second best DotA team of all time (former SK team) and also a couple of great SC2 players in SaSe, Jinro, ThorZaiN, NaNiwa.
For a country that small, I'd say it's pretty damn good.
you are stupid. obviously we're talking about 1.6 here and this was the most competitive and popular game for many years. of all countries, sweden has always had the best teams/players. comparing sweden to the us, is ridiculous. sweden has 10 million citizen whereas the us 300 million citizen. besides, I think sweden has more than just top notch 1.6/ csgo / sc2 players. I think the secret behind sweden's success is a cold climate and a good digital infrastructure.
Swedish government helping esports?
sverok helps swedish organisations that serves the swedish population.
for example brutalcs.nu
for example brutalcs.nu
ty :p what is sverok?
Post edited 2013-03-04 19:49:46
Post edited 2013-03-04 19:49:46
an "ungdomsförbund". no clue how to say that in english
So fucking awkward
i like sweden because of Malmsteen.
<3 abba
Nice one :D
I got another mystery for you:
Why can't Swedish people pronounce the simple word "just"? They seem to have a general problem with the letter "J"...
Tongue malfunction or the result of super-AIDS?
jk
Btw: Ikea furniture sucks! Absolutely no quality. Money back or Blitzkrieg!
Post edited 2013-03-03 16:12:48
I got another mystery for you:
Why can't Swedish people pronounce the simple word "just"? They seem to have a general problem with the letter "J"...
Tongue malfunction or the result of super-AIDS?
jk
Btw: Ikea furniture sucks! Absolutely no quality. Money back or Blitzkrieg!
Post edited 2013-03-03 16:12:48
Poland put an end to the blitzkrieg in September '39 :)
Post edited 2013-03-03 16:25:30
Post edited 2013-03-03 16:25:30
ikea furniture can easily last 30-40 years as long as you treat them normally.
I have no problem pronouncing "just", and I don't think most swedes do. It's a matter of dialect though, and we have plenty of different ones here. Carn is very very swedish (swenglish) in the way he pronounces english words. Does that really bother you that much?
zaihtaM and many other Swedes do the same.
"Does that really bother you that much?"
Yes. Can't sleep anymore. It makes me go crazy. Always hearing Swedish voices in my head, mispronouncing "just".
Post edited 2013-03-03 17:37:01
"Does that really bother you that much?"
Yes. Can't sleep anymore. It makes me go crazy. Always hearing Swedish voices in my head, mispronouncing "just".
Post edited 2013-03-03 17:37:01
^^
I can prononunce the word "just" without any stutter or accent. I'm accent neutral when I speak in English.
These swedes who talks with accents are people living outside Stockholm. They don't speak "metro swedish".
I lived in a soho-area for 13 years, I basically lived at a place where the general Swede is rich.
By that, Södermalm in Stockholm (south-central Stockholm). All these people who had problems pronouncing are oftenly people who had less quality in terms of English in school. :)
ZaihtaM lives outside Stockholm and talks with a södermanlandstype of Swedish. Which basically is a Swedish where you prononunce the words stronger than "Metro Swedish".
For instance if you ask him to pronounce seven, he'd pronounce it a bit stronger and with less vocal. By that, he doesn't talk nasally he talks from his throat mainly.
Post edited 2013-03-03 19:59:17
These swedes who talks with accents are people living outside Stockholm. They don't speak "metro swedish".
I lived in a soho-area for 13 years, I basically lived at a place where the general Swede is rich.
By that, Södermalm in Stockholm (south-central Stockholm). All these people who had problems pronouncing are oftenly people who had less quality in terms of English in school. :)
ZaihtaM lives outside Stockholm and talks with a södermanlandstype of Swedish. Which basically is a Swedish where you prononunce the words stronger than "Metro Swedish".
For instance if you ask him to pronounce seven, he'd pronounce it a bit stronger and with less vocal. By that, he doesn't talk nasally he talks from his throat mainly.
Post edited 2013-03-03 19:59:17
The Swedish we speak in my town (Nynäshamn) is to 99% the same Swedish the people in Stockholm speaks, I only live 40 minutes away from Stockholm :)
My English is most likely "bad" because of other factors.
My English is most likely "bad" because of other factors.
Nynäshamn is not far away from Stockholm but has a different tone of accent.
People in Västerås speaks also another accent and they live not far away from here either. (45mins from Stockholm)
The only factor that your english verbally is broken is because of the fact that you live outside Stockholm which doesnt give you the tools or the education quality in comparisation to Stockholms innercity schools.
Nynäshamn is also an own muncipality but is for some funny reason added to the same county.
Its basically an own town outside Stockholm that is inside Stockholms county strangely enough.
People in Västerås speaks also another accent and they live not far away from here either. (45mins from Stockholm)
The only factor that your english verbally is broken is because of the fact that you live outside Stockholm which doesnt give you the tools or the education quality in comparisation to Stockholms innercity schools.
Nynäshamn is also an own muncipality but is for some funny reason added to the same county.
Its basically an own town outside Stockholm that is inside Stockholms county strangely enough.
wheres GeT_RiGhT from? isnt he from Stockholm? hes like the perfect example of mispronouncing "just/join/enjoy" :D
I dont know where he is originally from in Sweden but he lives like 2-3 minutes away from me.
I live in the same area as him. And he have lived here for the past years i guess so.
And this is suburb Stockholm, 10-15 minutes away from central with train. A little place called Spånga, I live at the border of the place.
I live in the same area as him. And he have lived here for the past years i guess so.
And this is suburb Stockholm, 10-15 minutes away from central with train. A little place called Spånga, I live at the border of the place.
You could never tell the difference between someone from Nynäshamn and someone from Stockholm just from the way they speak.
Basically the only difference we have is that we pronounce "ö" a bit differently, but that is very subtle.
Basically the only difference we have is that we pronounce "ö" a bit differently, but that is very subtle.
You can do that if your a metro stockholmare. I'm a metro guy, raised in the better areas of Stockholm
I can tell the difference between someone from central Stockholm / suburbs and regular villagers like you :)
Sörmländska is different from regular Stockholmska. The vocals are pronounced different and it has less accent in the words.
Post edited 2013-03-04 02:28:13
I can tell the difference between someone from central Stockholm / suburbs and regular villagers like you :)
Sörmländska is different from regular Stockholmska. The vocals are pronounced different and it has less accent in the words.
Post edited 2013-03-04 02:28:13
Haha yes! Everytime I hear a Swede say just without saying the "ch" sound, I mock them for it :D
"ch" sound in just o_O?
it's like "dchust" or "djøst" you know :D
Yea, I'd personally go with "dj.." :D
Post edited 2013-03-03 21:12:12
Post edited 2013-03-03 21:12:12
tz maybe? or tza:)
Post edited 2013-03-04 00:55:05
Post edited 2013-03-04 00:55:05
Don't think that would fit in the word "just" :P
tzast like that:)
Well in my head there are a lot of ways to say it :P Djust, Gjust etc. I guess it depens how you pronounce it ;)
a good video
n1 cArn :d
which game does the players play, who are in 2012-13 year ?
1nn1
swedes play computer games 24/7 and are nolife, always thought that, if u take out the computer of swede, he will suicide, because his entire life is just a computer
You can't be german.
You're contradicting yourself in your own comment, I'm not going to point out where because you're a troll.
Exactly
Horseballs from ikea.
1337 hand mutation :DDDD & brainwashed by abba music :DD
Post edited 2013-03-03 18:14:10
Post edited 2013-03-03 18:14:10
a nation proud on being good in computer games, quite pathetic
4-4 XDDDD
in the next matchup you will get raped
that would be like if america were proud to be fat
Yeah cArn making a video about it makes the whole country proud of computer games.
damn, I knew it...
Too good!
lool
1337 injection
1337 injection
I find this video to be a conspiracy within itself as the storyteller, Björn, reminds me a lot of carn himself! And their voices are impeccably similar. Studying this video further, the laptop Björn is using is a MSI laptop, which Carn also have, and is in fact sponsored by them. I'm not entirely sure, but there's definitely something up here.
So much hate in this thread. Not everyone plays video games in Sweden.
Great video, but im wondering who was the guy behind the fake mustache, eyebrows and hair? =)=)=)=)))))
Post edited 2013-03-04 21:01:48
Post edited 2013-03-04 21:01:48
I went for the meatballs
There is only one thing : CS SCHOOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CNDlKPXNz8&fea..
nice
lol so many jealous upset flag faking poles in this thread.
How sad that people who get upset by this video can't understand that it's just for fun and a part of the release of their new SC2 player SaSe.
If you hate Sweden fine i don't give a fuck but then atleast plz get a sense of humour.
How sad that people who get upset by this video can't understand that it's just for fun and a part of the release of their new SC2 player SaSe.
If you hate Sweden fine i don't give a fuck but then atleast plz get a sense of humour.
Don't know who the guy at 2013 on the timeline is but I would make a case for your follow up in fnatic last year, Richard Landstrom.
if he keeps up his stellar form for the rest of the year he will most likely be CS player of the year, and perhaps even E-sports player of the year.
if he keeps up his stellar form for the rest of the year he will most likely be CS player of the year, and perhaps even E-sports player of the year.
player ofthe decade for sure,rappingneo like a bitch
XD
Neo & co do keep getting better
Even win nip without pistol wins yesterday!
Neo & co do keep getting better
Even win nip without pistol wins yesterday!
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