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Who do you think has the highest potential to be banned from the current top (tier 1-2) teams?
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Created 2017-01-05 11:10 by: Baguette from Ikea
Everyone k bai
2017-01-05 11:16:37
tbh I don't think anyone is cheating in the T1-T2 scene, but that's only my opinion

Post edited 2017-01-05 11:38:59
2017-01-05 11:38:39
i respect your wrong opinion
2017-01-05 11:47:27
ok
2017-01-05 11:47:44
yes
2017-01-05 11:48:37
XD
2017-01-05 14:58:07
at this point I guess its a bait XD
2017-01-05 11:50:08
XD, nt edgy 15 year old
2017-01-05 11:58:23
It's not an opinion at this point anymore.
2017-01-05 11:55:40
Nobody will get banned, because it's obvious many pros are cheating and by banning 1 of them, he would just complain and expose everything so yeah, Valve's not gonna do shit.
2017-01-05 11:40:33
+1
2017-01-05 11:45:52
Oh no... How false you are. Have you not exposed yourself enough yet?
2017-01-05 17:05:34
Lol thats just nonsense and a stretch. 1 banned pro couldnt really do a shit about the others. Its not like they are connected to eachother using same cheats or something xD All people would hear "whinewhinewhinewhinypig". Also "many" is a stretch imo, more like "some".

Post edited 2017-01-05 19:17:46
2017-01-05 19:16:29
Well you can find at least 1 obvious aimlocker in basicly any tier 1 team (expcept NIP).
2017-01-05 20:15:51
"Well you can find at least 1 obvious aimlocker in basicly any tier 1 team (expcept NIP)."

I'm going to save this statement. Don't you dare ever accuse someone of cheating again.

xD
2017-01-05 22:40:45
that is nothing but a (conspiracy) theory, and not an absolute truth like 50% on hltv makes it out to be
2017-01-05 22:28:56
Everybody is cheating at Tier 1-2 teams. EVERYBODY. I mean people say that NiP arent cheating, but they beat SK, the number 1 cheaters. Nip cheat, vp cheat everybody cheats.
2017-01-05 11:40:50
God to be the most stupid thing I've ever read on this site. Considering what HLTV consists of, congratulations are in order...

Don't play or watch CS:GO if you've come to that conclusion.
2017-01-05 19:30:27
You are just blind to truth.
2017-01-06 11:31:43
"Everybody is cheating at Tier 1-2 teams. EVERYBODY."
"You are just blind to truth."

Oh the irony... Don't play CS:GO. Ever.
2017-01-06 16:18:32
Why play CSGO if its infested by cheaters. You probably mad cause your favorite team are cheaters and you are cheater aswell. L2P instead of P2W
2017-01-06 18:29:17
"You probably mad cause your favorite team are cheaters and you are cheater aswell. L2P instead of P2W"
"Everybody is cheating at Tier 1-2 teams. EVERYBODY."
"You are just blind to truth."


Please stay away from CS:GO... You are not intelligent enough to touch it.
2017-01-07 20:44:35
How can u comment on pro cs if you have no scene.
2017-01-08 09:45:34
Yap - more bait. Thus proves your overwhelming lack of intelligence right there in one post.

Don't ever touch CS. You are not intelligent enough to touch CS.

"You probably mad cause your favorite team are cheaters and you are cheater aswell. L2P instead of P2W"
"Everybody is cheating at Tier 1-2 teams. EVERYBODY."
"You are just blind to truth."
2017-01-08 16:27:46
vp - everybody cheats
nip cheats
wtf are u saing brah
in vp byali using aimlock
in nip idk
2017-01-05 22:38:20
coldzera
fallen
s1mple
konfig
2017-01-05 11:42:51
subroza
2017-01-05 11:43:09
Subroza
Tier 1-2
Pick1
2017-01-05 11:47:31
>Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo is the biggest cheater in cs history
>Marcelo "Coldzera" David is the biggest cheater in cs history

pick one
2017-01-05 15:05:23
nobodys getting banned, even IF anyone was on the FUCKIN GEAR they would get caught
2017-01-05 11:43:15
Where's the logic behind that statement lol?
Ever heard of tour de france? Oh, nobody were jacked there because they didn't get caught.. Thats right..
2017-01-05 15:08:00
A random French
2017-01-05 11:48:59
maybe kqly has siblings lel
2017-01-05 14:55:59
rush
Fallen
Coldzera
Subroza
Ange1
Keev (germans cant be baned too good cheats)
Ayken
Xarte
Marke
Juho
Xenn
J1n
Am0
Shox
2017-01-05 11:51:14
Ange1? I hope you are kidding, how is he even in this list?
2017-01-05 19:46:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-jU2NtETyk pls explain this shit :D
2017-01-05 20:06:16
wtf
2017-01-05 22:23:00
im HR fanboy, so I want to believe hes clear as he has just one Fishy moment, but this looks kinda suspicious

Anyway I hope it was coincidence and NiKo should be in list aswell
2017-01-05 22:36:21
ye i like ange1 too but that was just weird.. look him player cam after that... rubbing nose acting innocent xD..
2017-01-06 15:09:24
- juho is clean

- maRky is proven to be cheater (leaked chatlogs), ayken banned, xenn banned, j1n only assumption because he played with many cheaters and irl friends with them, but you can't know for sure.
- am0 proven cheater.

- others you just bullshitting with no evidence.
2017-01-09 02:36:53
none will be banned cause private cheats are way ahead of anti-cheats.
2017-01-05 11:56:20
rip dream:(
2017-01-05 14:54:11
even if somehow anticheat caught someone. i think valve might step in and not ban the player. just make him retire or some shit. because they dont want to damage more their already shitty image.
2017-01-05 14:58:52
+1 unfortunately
2017-01-05 17:03:46
this.
2017-01-06 18:19:04
All of the SK

Post edited 2017-01-05 15:00:59
2017-01-05 15:00:50
subroza but he's so bad that they will ban him cuz not even hacks safe dis brick.
2017-01-05 15:01:17
Subroza and MarkE wont get banned because they're too scared to do it on LAN
2017-01-05 15:04:58
spiker
Most damage
106.7/round
2017-01-05 15:07:00
Rush I guess..
2017-01-05 15:08:44
Rush if thats the optic guy. Right now he seems to be the most blatant one. Maybe hes clean anyways, who knows :)
2017-01-05 15:09:59
No one cheats from the top teams
2017-01-05 15:16:48
nt games of thrones

just open ur lovely eyes
2017-01-08 18:13:51
It would appear YOU need to open yours and not be so easily fooled by silver witch-hunters making YouTube clips.

Seriously, why is everyone so deluded and easily fooled by "YouTube" videos as proof?!
2017-01-11 15:43:09
I understand u

there is no pro csgo players in ur whole country coz they r suck

only silvers

why u even here ?
2017-01-11 23:40:56
1. Subroza
2. MarkE
2017-01-05 15:18:56
Tier 1 / Tier 2

1. Subroza
2. MarkE

PICK NONE.
2017-01-05 17:09:57
Idiotic thread purely to start flame wars and heated discussions. No player cheats in the top level of CS. It's only the opinion of deluded witch-hunters without proof.

2017-01-05 17:06:18
cant tell if ur retarded or fucking retarded.. well cant expect much brains from uk scener))

Post edited 2017-01-05 17:53:29
2017-01-05 17:53:10
Ironic considering post #24.

Don't ever watch CS:GO if you think that many pro players are cheating. Start playing it instead. You NEED to.
2017-01-05 19:28:59
hy am jonty i come from inbred island named UK and im deluded kid who have no clue of cs because UK SCENE))
2017-01-05 20:17:21
Well, if you think that then you're more deluded than I initially thought.

You want to keep going? Or are you going to provide proof as to why you believe ALL those players are cheating?
2017-01-05 22:30:17
yeah im not even gonna argue with someone who has iq of potato. really dont know if ur retarder os jsut attempting to bait
2017-01-05 23:05:03
IQ of a potato? You think ALL of these people are cheating:-

- rush
- Fallen
- Coldzera
- Subroza
- Ange1
- Keev (germans cant be baned too good cheats)
- Ayken
- Xarte
- Marke
- Juho
- Xenn
- J1n
- Am0
- Shox

Don't make such stupid statements unless you WANT to be known as a black kettle pot.
2017-01-05 23:06:57
let's say we are the idiots and deluded witch hunters without proof, which means you are not idiot, neither deluded and aren't which hunting, but the proof? Show us something strong that proves pro players are not cheating. I bet you didn't know kqly was cheating before he got Vac banned, now did you? Now how can you be so sure that nobody else wouldn't do that? Because they got scared? LMAO
2017-01-05 17:58:01
I suggest you not even trying, he cant be reasoned with.
2017-01-05 19:20:11
"Show us something strong that proves pro players are not cheating."

Sure thing. Without being deluded and idiotic, watch every pro game to date and there is all the proof you need.

Ah, witch-hunters... You'll always remain distant and unable to see the truth.

Post edited 2017-01-05 19:27:45
2017-01-05 19:27:29
Jonty you rule dude
2017-01-05 19:44:25
Thanks for your kind comment :D Thank you again for being one of the few people here with a functioning brain ;)

Have a great day, SJ158.
2017-01-05 19:58:48
or maybe you are just too hypocrite to accept the truth
2017-01-05 20:14:31
Ah... because the truth is every player in the top scene is a horrible cheater, right(?)

No proof exists to make that claim. It's all explainable to anyone with a micro-fraction of a brain cell.

Until then, you'll remain as deluded as you'll ever be, won't you?

Good day.
2017-01-05 21:47:42
Hahaha. Going for the simple stupid and incorrect answer, NAIS

Btw what is with you attacking every which-hunter, calling them by every name you can come up with? " here with a functioning brain "Clearly shows that you have no arguments neither proof that pro players AREN'T cheating.

Have a good day.
2017-01-05 21:32:43
It isn't incorrect. As soon as you've learnt to decipher what is and isn't cheats, your argument will remain invalid, won't it?

One day you'll learn... Probably.
2017-01-05 21:46:45
Show me facts that prove against pros cheating please. You are just so stupid and keep ignoring the questions what people ask you. Your smart ass doesn't belong to HLTV if you have no facts

EDIT: I have a strong fact, Kqly Vac ban

Post edited 2017-01-05 22:20:19
2017-01-05 22:20:02
"Show me facts that prove against pros cheating please."

I already did. Go on YouTube and search for any professional game with top teams after (KQLY, sF and emilio of course) and watch it.

There, proof. Now don't be deluded and call hacks on other players without proof but benign opinion.
2017-01-05 22:25:38
Explain KQLY vac ban - i'm waiting
2017-01-05 23:06:16
Read my blog. It's all in there. If you're going to read what I post, do not reply.

Considering you think I bait and only bait, it's probably best you do not read it actually...

Never mind. Good day.
2017-01-05 23:08:12
Expected reply of this sort. Nt tho, bye
2017-01-05 23:12:29
I completely deciphered your response, your own text and your very own opinion, to which you then prove my initial point and leave.

Hilarious...
2017-01-06 16:19:27
Hilarious is the fact that instead of explaining what i've just asked you you come with such ridiculous response.

Dont reply to me again
2017-01-06 20:23:52
I answered you and told you the explanation is in my blog. If you don't want to learn to read, that is your fault and not mine.

People like you never learn and it's not very hard to see why, is it now?

Remain in complete and utter denial as post #167 clearly displays.

Good day.
2017-01-09 00:25:47
Have I called haxx on someone? NO = FUCKIN deBUNKED

"Go on YouTube and..." Bs, taht is no fact, go watch a video of legit aimbotter and I BET ON 100 you wont make a difference between aimbot and legit aim. Now go to your cave and wash your teeth clean of those smartass sentences
2017-01-05 23:53:56
You have called hacks on someone before, but you'll either forget to remember it on purpose or continue to babble deluded and incorrect statements.

If that isn't proof enough for you, then you need to play CS:GO to "pro" level, don't you?
2017-01-06 16:20:28
"You have called hacks on someone before..." Take a screenshot and show me and I'll trade you a 50cent skin, I promise.

If no screenshot, no proof = false statement = I win
2017-01-06 16:57:26
Yep, thought so... Just as predicted.
2017-01-06 17:57:11
No arguments = no proof = false statement = post debunked = u lier
2017-01-06 18:10:57
Well I've an eidetic memory and I do not easily forget things, unfortunately.

I also remember when you thought TACO was cheating. I debunked the clip, to which you continued to show delusion. You then thought I "made-up" the fade-away headshot.

I could go on, but you've proven delusion and denial before. Right this very second, actually...
2017-01-06 18:13:35
ahahahah the taco clip: ALL I said was that he as a pro palyer should know the height of the truck even tho there is a smoke there and I smelled some fishiness there bu t NEVER called him out. Go ahead and reread my post about the taco clip if u wish so, but u are lying.

Made up fadeaway headshot: This is some high lvl delusionn from you man, I never sai you made ir up, I asked you what it was if you knew it so well, but you kept ignoring me and never answerd thequestion. If you disagree, go ahead and feel free to reread the post again. Again you are lying to make your point show stronger to other ppl, shame on you.

EDIT: you have nothing to remember, you use imagination and lies to prove your points which I can see through very clearly, I am not stupid.

Post edited 2017-01-06 18:22:41
2017-01-06 18:16:48
So, you remember the TACO clip, but not the part that exposes you?

I don't lie and I do remember it. Alas, a fools errand as you'll probably think that clip is still proof of cheats, right?

Don't watch Dan M anymore. Please.
2017-01-09 00:27:12
I NEVER stated that the clip is proof of pros (taco) cheating [Another lie]

What part exposes me? Copy-paste the part of my comment that was wrong and go ahead and expose me if you think you are so right about this. My word: You are exposing yourself with the lies you are throwing to me [Another lie]

What part makes me a lier or a delusionist IF I watched Dan M videos? Maybe I watch just to see what clips he is posting, cuz I am not the guy to be on HLTV 8hours a day and wait for someone to post a clip and waste my precious time on it.

Now try again, or ignore and admit that u lied
2017-01-09 17:01:07
I didn't lie. I do not lie. you're clearly embarrassed, I would be to to admit such a stupid anomaly.

However, you're not addressing the point raised, are you?
2017-01-09 17:16:02
I just proved that u lied and you answering my post exposed you cuz u have no proof to your points and you keep ignoring me, when I ask a picture of a certain sentence u said I once wrote. I am not replying to you anymore, because it is pointless to argue with someone that doesn't know how wrong they are. Have a nice day!
2017-01-09 17:17:49
Ignoring you? You're missing the point yet again, aren't you? Why bother explaining it again and again to a person who remains deluded and not able to see reason?

The pen is another castle... sheep.
2017-01-11 15:44:22
lmao, the stupitidy
2017-01-11 23:33:58
JW was close and decided to play T2 than reach ban
2017-01-05 17:16:52
NEEX;
Most AWP kills
3.64/round
2017-01-05 19:25:36
Who busts cheats?

It's not Haci.

It's not you.

Information leaks and video footage mean absolutely nothing. Even Lan coders that use the product themselves won't get banned from tier3 tournaments even if you know who they really are.

Valve isn't Blizzard, names lead to nothing.

I've gotten thousands of cheaters banned recently, but I can't help to think that my efforts are pointless once one finds out that the 2014 VACening had nothing to do with investigation efforts or pros snitching.

It's a cheat developer that caused it by backstabbing supex0.

It's that simple.

If you believe that any vaccenings will happen anytime soon due to behind-the-scenes events, you might as well uninstall. Last case was 2 years ago, and it won't happen again as I'm sure supex0 has told everyone about his mistake already.

These pro players will never get banned, face it. One get breached = 1 Pro player falls. That's months of efforts for nothing.

Rizla did do heavy research around the cheats sF had yet the list he made meant nothing. Just KQLY + sF + some randoms because people have different coders, remember?
2017-01-05 19:35:43
It's a sad fact that these "pros" will never be caught.

How can an ESL / ELeauge / Major Org Heuristic scan catch what there is only one instance of, you feel? Valve knows and nothing will ever come of it, unless these "pros" have some sort of fallout and find ways to definitively start selling each other out (please egos, do your thing.) Valve makes too much money off these pros, their events, and the free advertising CSGO gets off of them. Why would they ever blow the scene up?

I hope egos come into play here and it blows the scene up. I just want to watch this scene burn.
2017-01-05 19:38:39
Reading this makes me sad.
2017-01-05 20:02:12
boots vs Jonty

Two ends of the Cheating Pros scale
2017-01-05 19:52:36
I've already exposed him on my blog. Do not look at his profile. You'll lose IQ points.
2017-01-05 19:58:06
jonty is definitely on the spectrum somewhere :)
2017-01-05 20:01:51
boots... All of the videos on your profile are NOT CHEATERS. The only thing that's "sad" is that you will never actually open your eyes and see the bigger picture.

Gabe Newell himself could fly down to where you currently reside, reveal every single pro player to you one by one, IN PERSON, have them sat down in front of you playing CS alongside you.

You would STILL think they were cheating... All I can you do is wish that one day you'll actually play the god-damned game instead of fruitlessly being deluded on a daily basis.

You've been exposed on my blog and your own threads and in my GBE's, yet you still will not let me help you even though I've deciphered certain videos with you, PLAY BY PLAY.

Use your brain, boots. You do have one, your wall of text was well written albeit the information being extremely convoluted.

Good day and bless your poor soul.
2017-01-05 22:00:37
u can't bait me bruh nice try tho
2017-01-05 22:13:33
Fact that you think this is bait proves how overwhelmingly deluded and arrogant you are.

Learn to read and STOP exposing yourself.
2017-01-05 22:18:35
pls stay away from my threads, thanks
2017-01-05 22:18:55
Why? You made this thread, so you should suffer the consequences. If you didn't want opinion or constructive criticism, think twice before making one next time.

Don't be daft and state something extremely stupid.
2017-01-05 22:20:24
i dont want to hurt you kid
2017-01-05 22:21:58
"i dont want to hurt you kid"

The only thing you "did do", is bait everyone here and state stupid things.

You don't want me to post in your threads, don't make them -- especially about a topic as this one as you know how I feel about professional player cheat accusations.

Grow up. Eat your pie.
2017-01-05 22:24:09
actually the only one that got baited by my thread is you. and nope i dont know how you feel about it as i barely know you. i just saw the thread including your faceitprofile. at least get on a decent skill level before you even talk about a topic like that son.

and ofc pros dont cheat, kqly was legit as we all know

Post edited 2017-01-05 22:27:41
2017-01-05 22:26:49
The faceit profile is explained on my profile. I'd suggest before making a topic about this, actually play some CS:GO first.

People don't get baited unless the thread itself is bait. Is it? You admit this entire thread is bait, do you?

Eat your pie.
2017-01-05 22:28:52
yeah ofc its explained blah blah blah, you suck at the game, a least stop lying to yourself. and i wont eat my pie as i dotn want to get fat. but i wont make fun of you just because you have one or two or 20 punds too much.
2017-01-05 22:31:11
Well if you didn't want to eat the pie, you shouldn't have made it in the first place, should you?

Here: Have a knife and fork. Do not make bait threads, do not make threads about pro players cheating without proof and do not state that I cannot post anywhere.

I am not breaking any rules here, only you are. Learn from your mistakes, lest you succumb to stupidity by that of an overweight frog.

Enjoy your pie :)
2017-01-05 22:33:02
kqly got banned. kqly was a pro. proof is here son. now go get your tea.
2017-01-05 22:34:01
You're exactly right. So... if Flusha is cheating, he'll get banned too, right? Just like KQLY, right?!

Your entire is admitted bait. Either act logical or not at all.

Stop baiting people and finish your damned pie.
2017-01-05 22:36:06
no he wont he isnt cheating
2017-01-05 22:36:29
I completely agree. Let's hide the pie and start from scratch. Do not bait me and I will not aggressively state various things.

How was your day today? Did you have a good New Year's?
2017-01-05 22:39:22
Im fine ty, you? and who do you think will be banned next?
2017-01-05 22:46:27
Personally? Someone from the group of "semi-pro" players around tier 5-6 that usually try and cheat their way into FPL and further.

They never make it out of tier 5 and always get banned by the AC. It's mostly German's too, which is a little unfortunate as I know a lot of very good German players.

Tier 1-3 professionals, however? Never :)
2017-01-05 22:52:21
jonty get a life
2017-01-09 13:07:06
I have one. a great one, at that. I think every single time I've seen you post, it's been pure speculation, assumption and insinuation.

It's unhealthy and clearly compensation. Want to tell me anything about your life, Dayne_Dank?

Or do you have something to bring to the discussion that is the lack of proof defining pro players to be cheating, hmm?
2017-01-09 15:34:04
tldr
2017-01-05 21:56:03
KQLY+SF were only banned because of extraordinary circumstances. Do not expect any other pros to get banned unless they start selling each other out.

Post edited 2017-01-05 22:22:00
2017-01-05 22:16:53
you shouldnt take this thread seriously;)
2017-01-05 22:28:23
it was smn, a former customer who played professionally for team alternate that backstabbed me, not a cheatcoder.
2017-01-07 20:07:05
why do you make cheats?:( too bad to play normal?
2017-01-07 20:29:00
cs private cheats is a big market these days $_$
2017-01-07 22:13:25
big marekt for no lifers
2017-01-08 11:30:55
one team that has won a major last year has someone in their team that contacted me roughly 2 years ago. I wouldn't call successful people no lifers - unless you categorize no lifers as people who play counter-strike professionally.
2017-01-09 17:29:03
i called you a nolifer, not the players. anyway cheaters are fags as well.
2017-01-09 20:05:02
you seem to be salty. were you one of the wannabe "I turn pro soon"-guys I declined to work with?
2017-01-09 20:27:45
no i dont want to go pro. but i hqte people like you that destroy the game cause they suck.
2017-01-09 20:33:19
ok good
let the hatred flow through you
2017-01-09 21:44:06
probably you arent even doing shit, just seeking for attention cause you saw ko1n getting some
2017-01-09 21:58:42
tru.dat
2017-01-11 00:17:23
expected
2017-01-11 10:34:40
get triggered m8
2017-01-11 13:26:08
nah not by a fat kid
2017-01-11 13:27:33
im not a kid anemor
#sadface
2017-01-11 16:43:49
okay i didnt know that sorry. i didnt want to hurt your feelings:(
2017-01-11 16:46:42
tnx bae
2017-01-11 17:02:18
no homo maj friend
2017-01-11 17:02:36
lol
actually I'm not too horrible when playing most video games
my interest in altering video games in a way that give you an advantage got awoken when I was at a very young age, so "why do you make cheats?" - "because it was a hobby of mine - turned to a profession"!
2017-01-09 17:26:08
maybe a doctor can help you to get over the lack of love from your parents?
2017-01-09 20:05:54
Cry
2017-01-05 19:43:29
There is so many cheaters atm. But obviously valve doesnt care about csgo(updates etc..) they dont care if they cheat they just want free money and nothing else. If they are going to ban these players no money to valve.
Atm csgo make so mutch money to many people/organisations so there is almoust 0% chance to these players get ban. And no i dont say every pro players cheats but there is many, im pretty sure every top 20 teams have cheaters and even lower tier teams have. In real sport people use doping so why not in cs???

The truth is hate for only those who hate the truth.

Post edited 2017-01-05 20:15:46
2017-01-05 20:12:02
"There is so many cheaters atm."
"The truth is hate for only those who hate the truth."

No proof, your own opinion, garbage explanation with zero logic.

Wow... you're on fire, aren't you?
2017-01-05 22:19:26
Pls tell me what you accept for proof? There is already vac banned pro players but that is another story. If your logic is that why you can get overwatch bans? One demo no proof.
2017-01-05 22:32:06
I've already stated this many times. "proof" is full POV demos and not inconsistent clips with zero context.

Full POV demos provide all the necessary context provided, therefore enabling statistical and logical plays, via analysing situations ethically and professionally.

Not a 12 second clip of a pro doing something dodgy... Sorry Dan M, but grow a brain or get out of YouTube :/
2017-01-05 22:38:18
Not sure if you are just stupid or troll or do you get money for this? :D just keep living in your wonderland. Go watch those pov's there is same shit going what you can see those ''12'' second clips
2017-01-06 01:04:27
"Go watch those pov's there is same shit going what you can see those ''12'' second clips"

If you think they are both exactly the same, then do not play CS:GO. I've literally just previously analysed the two for you, to which you insist on showing denial.

How does it feel to know you will never have proof of these players cheating? And that they will never be banned? Maybe for once, learn to eat pie and accept the truth?

No? That would actually require rational, coherent thought? Ah, my apologies (!) ...
2017-01-06 16:22:17
Why should i quit playing csgo? I know they will never get banned and i accept that but that doesnt change the fact that there is cheaters. The whole scene is pretty hypocrite. Do you ever think kids who are trying to go pro? They train everyday but at the same time their ''idols'' are cheating you ever think that? Im pretty sure you are those kind of people who say we should help these ''immigrants'' you just cant accept the truth and thats it.

And do you really think there is 0 cheaters in pro scene? What is more likely that there is 0 cheaters or maybe lets say 10-20% pro players cheat? People will do anything for money.

Post edited 2017-01-06 18:12:39
2017-01-06 18:10:31
"I know they will never get banned and i accept that but that doesnt change the fact that there is cheaters. The whole scene is pretty hypocrite. Do you ever think kids who are trying to go pro? They train everyday but at the same time their ''idols'' are cheating you ever think that? Im pretty sure you are those kind of people who say we should help these ''immigrants'' you just cant accept the truth and thats it."

Your logic is somewhat correct, but again you fail to see what is right in front of you, don't you?
2017-01-06 18:14:25
Im not bilbo baggins so im bad with riddles so pls tell me.
2017-01-06 18:19:18
Byali. Proof: https://youtu.be/3qG4ibZPjBE
2017-01-05 21:13:13
No, this video is by Jns. a butthurt witch-hunter that couldn't his arse with both hands or his legs.

Do not be fooled so easily...
2017-01-05 22:01:24
flusha
byali
snax
coldzera
fnx
taco
fallen
hen1
niko
shox
bodyy
kjaerbye
krimz
rush
stanislaw
k0nfig
kioshima
Edward
2017-01-05 21:59:40
Edward and Kioshima xdddddd
2017-01-05 22:28:12
None of these people are cheating... :/
2017-01-05 23:09:11
and you know it damn well :D Your the boss, your always right :)
2017-01-06 00:01:03
"and you know it damn well :D *You're the boss, *you're always right :)"

No, I am always rational and logical. Learn a few things...
2017-01-06 16:23:47
hahahaha, this is hltv, do you really think I didn't know when to write you're and your? In hltv nbody cares of grammar, the main thing is that everybody understands.
2017-01-06 16:59:06
Well start making sense then. Thus far, you have not. Provide proof or remain having your own opinion.
2017-01-06 17:56:23
you are soo fuckig stupid and ignorant man. Keep lying that the posts dnt make sense, since you dont want them to make sense. Replay when you have a clear mindset and dont posst ignorant shit
2017-01-06 18:09:17
Now you think my posts are ignorant? Despite the fact I just debunked your hilariously deluded posts...

Good god you're doing it again.

Let's start again. You think who is cheating and why? Then I'll debunk that, too.
2017-01-06 18:15:25
u debunked shit man, and again you go with the lies and try to make your point stronger, pls stop with those, everyone knows you are ignoring the facts and questions and go with "learn to read" "play the game". Go home man
2017-01-06 18:18:26
Do they? Is there anything you state that isn't speculation or conjecture?

Is there?
2017-01-06 18:26:24
yes there is. As they say, hard work pays off, you'll fin them if you search enough
2017-01-06 18:27:51
So... your answer is no then. Typically derivative.
2017-01-08 16:44:29
can you read? I said "yes" yet you still don't manage to understand, u retarded?
2017-01-09 16:57:23
Given your full answer, the yes is disqualified wholeheartedly.

Sorry to burst your bubble, lack of logic.
2017-01-11 15:45:56
given your full asnwerm the yes is not disqualified wholeheartedly as you can't read and understand me.

Sorry to bursh your bubble, lack of brain cells
2017-01-11 23:34:54
They all are cheating or atleast have fishy clips which cant be explained.
2017-01-07 06:42:32
NO... they are not.
2017-01-07 20:43:32
Yes!! Explain flusha's fst flick movement vs NiP at iem Katowice then.And explain flusha's double spray which convinced shox that he is cheating.
2017-01-11 10:37:30
"convinced shox that he is cheating."

Go home kid, you're drunk.
2017-01-11 15:51:26
"If you cant explain something,ignore that part and attack on rest of the comment"
Only reply to me if you have any explanation otherwise just shut the fuck up idiot kid.
2017-01-11 17:24:31
I don't think pros cheat tbh
2017-01-05 22:08:07
first thing i do when i see these threads: ctrl+f jonty
2017-01-05 22:27:36
Oh... I sincerely hope I've never offended you then? Despite my countless arguments with many trolls/witch-hunters, YOU are entitled to your own opinion.

Never let anyone tell you different.
2017-01-05 22:53:22
oh stop it, you're making me blush
2017-01-05 23:09:32
Oh, my apologies. That was not my intent whatsoever.

I hope you have a great day, friend. Honestly. I hope you had a good New Year's, too :)
2017-01-05 23:11:27
get right
2017-01-05 22:53:54
hen1
2017-01-06 14:37:30
coldzera
fallen
fer
taco
boltz
2017-01-06 14:38:55
wait to see this major
2017-01-06 17:58:21
also pro players say that aimlock is common nowadays but we don't have enough evidence to expose players so better shut up instead of say xd VAC xd
2017-01-06 18:04:40
fallen
2017-01-06 18:14:37
Subroza absolutely. Also Fallen
2017-01-06 18:20:36
hen1 cheats 99.9% sure
2017-01-06 20:25:39
oh and taco
2017-01-06 20:27:11
subroza
2017-01-06 20:26:02
Oh look it's the same bullshit Thread again. So sad
2017-01-06 20:29:59
you mad bro?
2017-01-06 21:37:12
probably marke mexico is succ at cs kkona
2017-01-07 20:33:59
>cheating
>pros

Pick one
2017-01-08 16:33:31
rush
naf
hen1
lucas
boltz
fallen
2017-01-08 18:08:14
SUBROZA CHEATING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8q2Ls9p15o
2017-01-08 18:10:47
Doesn't show cheats.

When you have a book full of words, do you look through the words or just the words itself?

2017-01-09 00:29:41
I cant anymore tell if you are a troll or just a fucking retard. You say that demos etc... isnt evidence so wtf is evidence if not demos? You can see that there is something definitely wrong (not human aim.). Your only argument is that ''youtube'' videos isnt evidence or demos isnt evidence.

My conclusion is that you are retard or you are trolling and if you are trolling pls go to hospital that isnt anymore ''normal'' trolling. But overall obviously you have a somekind of serious mental illness so pls go to hospital.
2017-01-09 18:37:44
"My conclusion is that you are retard or you are trolling and if you are trolling pls go to hospital that isnt anymore ''normal'' trolling. But overall obviously you have a somekind of serious mental illness so pls go to hospital."

100% wrong, but then again you think 12 second clips and YouTube videos are undeniable proof of pro players risking their entire life's work to cheat, don't you?

I hope you never meet a pro player in CS:GO... Dear god - the reports they'll receive...
2017-01-11 15:47:17
The risk is so small to compared what they can get like in ''real'' sport. And even if you get caught you dont have to give your money back. And i have played against pro players in csgo first time was in 2014. We didnt even win with 3 cheaters in our team :D Ofc we get a chance to win if those 3 guys played blatant but thats not fun.

If somebody tells you can play pro and they give you very good cheats why not do it? Ofc i dont like these cheaters but it is so ez money. And the risk is so small volvo doesnt care like we can see. Ofc you can live in your delusional world where everything is like in fairytale politicians speak truth, atheletes dont use doping etc... There is still so mutch people like you, who cant admit the truth. But maybe someday you wake up and think out of the box and that will be your best day in life. I can bet that you are those kind of people who are waiting refugees with refugees welcome sign.

Post edited 2017-01-11 22:38:43
2017-01-11 22:38:05
Subroza ez
2017-01-09 02:54:33
byali cache one was so suspicious
2017-01-09 02:59:32
No 1
2017-01-09 13:04:58
no one in any tier 1-2 team
2017-01-09 13:06:22
subroza is only 101% cheating player.
2017-01-09 17:00:47
Vacation guy, Mini from DarkPassage:

https://clips.twitch.tv/define2k14/BetterFishFuzzy..
2017-01-09 20:10:35
SUBROZA
2017-01-09 20:35:17
xantares, coldzera, rush
2017-01-09 20:40:44
I was going to mention some SK players, but then i realised you only meant tier 1-2 teams.
2017-01-11 10:41:22
LOL SAME
2017-01-11 17:04:45
ye cus sk guys are tier god ?
2017-01-14 16:56:58
If Valve can get good cheat coders to work with them, all pro cheaters would probably get banned/retire/stop cheating. Videos and demos are never enough to prove it, unless someone spinbots at LAN or something similar. We need software evidence.
2017-01-11 17:06:02
i think that following players are the most suspicious
- Subroza (100%)
- Shox
- edward
- Hen1
- XANTARES
- Marke

and the biggest cheater is Smithzz
2017-01-14 18:06:26

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