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Who do you think has the highest potential to be banned from the current top (tier 1-2) teams?
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Created 2017-01-05 11:10 by: Baguette from Ikea
nobody. anti-cheat sucks
2017-01-05 11:12:19
2017-01-05 11:12:32
shox, niko, subroza must be banned. videos on youtube with their aimlocks is enough to ban them.

Post edited 2017-01-05 19:09:16
2017-01-05 19:07:40
no its not, literally anything can happen on GOTV, while the clips are suspicious, you cant just ban them
2017-01-05 19:23:09
it's happening only with cheaters on gotv. :/
2017-01-05 19:28:26
even if that were true, you cant ban a player based on an aimlock through a wall
2017-01-05 19:29:02
i can but someone are b*dead at the scene. valve, analytics, casters for example :<
2017-01-05 19:31:28
they can't :<
2017-01-05 19:32:03
casters arent watching the game for aimlocks, they want to make it an enjoyable experience for them and the viewers, valve dont care, and analysts arent looking for aimlocks either, unless someone starts spinbotting, its quite hard to see a cheater straight up
2017-01-05 19:34:56
that's a reason why cs is dead. here we disperse me and you.
2017-01-05 19:37:26
are you 12? because you sound exactly like one of those 12yo kids you meet on matchmaking calling everyone who kills them a hacker because they suck dick at the game

also CS is dead? lmao, dumb and clueless, it's far from dead, growing actually
2017-01-05 20:10:58
Cs is the most popular fps game on pc
2017-01-11 17:28:07
wow ty i don't knew.
now listen to me and get some brains right now.
"cs is dead" means that cs community has alot of cheaters even at pro scene. there is no point to challenge against silly cunts with childhood injuries cuz even anticheat isn't working at sufficient amount.
2017-01-14 16:55:38
so if you use speedhack it is just gotv bug =) nice argument. So you can just cheat and relax it is just a gotv bug if you dont get vac ban and that is almoust never going to happen =)
2017-01-05 20:04:20
nice argument, because there's a pro dumb enough to use speedhack in an official match and there's also a buttload of videos of pros speedhacking :))))

... NOT
2017-01-05 20:13:45
Obviously you dont get the point.
2017-01-05 20:15:21
obviously you don't.. yeah, if someone was blatantly speedhacking through the map and got caught, that would (probably) be enough to ban them, but "aimlocking" or weird crosshair shaking? you'd have to be insane to actually consider that enough evidence to ruin somebody's CS career
2017-01-05 20:18:06
If the same player have those ''aimlock'' moments in many matches or many times in same match atleast he needs to explain admins wtf is going on. And yes they can ban the player if they want like next tournament etc...
2017-01-05 20:22:44
you're right, they can do whatever they want, but you know.. we live in a world where you're innocent until proven guilty and some of those "aimlocks" can be explained, some might be just a coincidence.. i'm not saying there are no cheaters in the pro scene, but those videos just aren't enough.. :)
2017-01-05 20:28:19
so you only say vac ban is proof :) so next time you go play mm,esea,faceit remember no vac ban no cheats
2017-01-05 21:01:14
didn't say that bro, read again
2017-01-05 21:04:05
He didn't say that at all. Prove even more delusion oor learn to read.

Pro players do not cheat at the highest level of CS or anywhere else, for that matter.

Get it in your head and stop watching Dan M videos...
2017-01-05 22:02:59
2017-01-08 16:41:23
This is gotv bug https://youtu.be/l-xDBM_SJZs

And this is coincidence for your well trained eye https://youtu.be/Bh8ek8a5tgY :DD
2017-01-08 16:44:45
aizy isn't cheating in this clip. HEN1 isn't cheating in that clip either.

YouTube videos are not proof of cheating and it never will be. All context is removed of said clip apart from the obvious, making the player out to be malicious when in actual fact it's normal.

Is it aizy's/HEN1's fault you are not intelligent enough to know legit plays when you see it? No, it is yours.

Until then, you'll confirm my point quicker than the speed of light, won't you?

Good day. Stop watching Dan M.
2017-01-09 00:34:24
Delusional kid. You have a serious problem.
2017-01-09 00:47:07
How ironic. Because you cannot tell the difference between an aimlock from a preaim?

Re-read post #236. Get better or do not accuse, otherwise you'll remain unintelligent.
2017-01-09 00:48:29
I feel bad for you my friend. Person telling how shit player and unintelligent i am while playing head to head with level 3 people. Kys
2017-01-09 01:22:37
Anyone can play bad. GeT_RiGhT 0.09 rating when he lost the major further proves this. You don't let it get to you.

I hardly touched the account and I haven't been on it in ages. You have the profile, do you not? When was the last game played on it? I played like garbage and my head wasn't in the game at all despite the past experience.

Pertaining to believe pro players are cheating simply because of YouTube videos is idiotic, frankly. It isn't proof - it's a disgrace to the pro player who is in the video in the first place. His "skill" and experience being butcherised and bastardised for the world to see.

Don't succumb to stupidity. Being logical minded and knowledgeable about these things does not make a me a villain, despite what the other exposed trolls will tell you.

Have a good day.
2017-01-09 01:35:46
Lol kys. 15 kills ended up in minus against gold novas with some 15 years experience. Theres no excuse. Kys
2017-01-09 01:41:42
I am not making excuses. I am getting my point across to an unintelligent person who believes YouTube clips provide "evidence".

Hilarious the sheer ignorance and stupidity being displayed. Have you even touched the game? Have you?
2017-01-09 01:47:13
"does not make a me a villain" :3 waiting for ur long af reply :P give it to me baby, easiest bait I ever made
2017-01-09 02:00:10
"Lol kys. 15 kills ended up in minus against gold novas with some 15 years experience. Theres no excuse. Kys"

You'll find trying to have a logical discussion with a troll witch-hunter is difficult at times, but your quote doesn't define me as a villain nor make me one via the post you replied to, anyway.

"Hilarious the sheer ignorance and stupidity being displayed. Have you even touched the game? Have you?"

This statement is fact and not insulting in any way. He HAS made an arse of himself, has he not? He HAS displayed overwhelming displays of ignorance, has he not?

Pointing out the obvious in a pseudo-aggressive statement doesn't make me a villain either.

So what are you insinuating? This post isn't insulting, it isn't bait and it isn't offending anyone, is it? Or are you going to accuse my post of bait, regardless of the subject because of past differences, Cosharek?

You wanted a wall of text, you got it. Have fun reading a perfectly apt piece of text that isn't bait whatsoever.

Good day, woolly user.
2017-01-09 02:07:10
made my day, now kys and my life will be complete :3 also Is this guy a shitty level 2 witch hunter too?


2017-01-09 02:09:15
I've been over this with you. Death threats, baits, idiotic claims - yet you trolls think I've been exposed :/

I'm not going to explain that video again for you. Grow brain cells or learn to read.

That is all. Good day.
2017-01-09 02:10:32
I didn't threat u XD just told u to kys.

also typical jonty running away because someone with more skill and knowledge than him called cheats on someone, go ahead show me u have over 15 years of experience in cs and I will never reply to you again, I will also say sorry to u :3 but I guess your reply will be smth like "bla bla bla ur an idiot bla bla bla I don't need to prove anything its all in my blog bla bla bla learn to read"

in the end u cant prove pro's don't cheat neither can u prove they do, also ur "experience" is not proof :3 good night cunt
2017-01-09 02:15:23
If I wanted to beat dead horses, I'd go to the nearest farm that a friend owns and bring a glass mallet with me.

Learn to read... more speculation, untrue, unproven, angry compensation for the fact you exposed yourself.

Good day, woolly user. Baa...
2017-01-09 02:16:52
the only thing that unproven is your experience
2017-01-09 02:17:52
Wrong again, although that is like explaining algebra to a hamster now, isn't it?


I've already explained this to you. Do you have the brains to actually read between the lines and discuss your point further? Or are you going to eat pie?
2017-01-09 02:19:10




explain to me how is it that in all of the matches u won ur almost always closing and if not closing than ur k/d is on a - ? if u tell me that u where feelin bad in most of the matches than u are a complete joke

good night cunt
2017-01-09 02:22:43
Now you're avoiding the question... I expected as much.

I believe a good night is necessary as it's clear you'll never understand, will you?

Good night, Woolly user.
2017-01-09 02:41:53
the only thing that is being avoided is u proving ur cs experience
2017-01-09 11:41:16
Dumbass you try to use your "experience" as an argument, but its clear that youre shit at this game and you cant play it. Its a fact. And you still try to argue with people basing your arguments on your experience which you clearly dont have. Kys.
2017-01-09 12:56:55
Wrong again. Considering YOU think aizy and HEN1 are cheating based off of a YouTube video, you don't have any ground to stand on when it comes to a viable opinion now, do you?

People like you will never learn as you're too arrogant and chauvinistic to see past your own arse, mind and ego.

Have a good day, inexperienced, deluded user.
2017-01-09 15:44:39
this box keeps getting smaller
2017-01-11 11:26:31

And this is your faceit profile(level 3 indeed) with "15 years of TOP level experience cant get out of - at faceit level 3. Fucking retard.

Pathology? I've been playing top level CS for 15yrs, I know from my own eyes and experience compared to the deluded fools that reside HLTV currently.Pathology? I've been playing top level CS for 15yrs, I know from my own eyes and experience compared to the deluded fools that reside HLTV currently.Pathology? I've been playing top level CS for 15yrs, I know from my own eyes and experience compared to the deluded fools that reside HLTV currently.Pathology? I've been playing top level CS for 15yrs, I know from my own eyes and experience compared to the deluded fools that reside HLTV currently.
2017-01-08 18:02:43
You are not understanding what Ashton is saying properly

or your baiting, idk. It seems like you are in denial even though strong arguments are proven to you
2017-01-09 15:46:42
some leagues do ban on demo evidence but they do it only to semipro or lower players.
2017-01-09 02:39:51
Ooooh shiet ma frend it happened with every single pro player :'C

2017-01-11 16:48:50
now come off from internet and just try to understand that you are not smart as you think. i'm talkin about your jokes and choice of the place to drop a joke. stfu moron.
2017-01-14 16:58:50
This is what you said in your message. Just think about it.
2017-01-14 17:57:47
now come off from internet and just try to understand that you are not smart as you think. i'm talkin about your jokes and choice of the place to drop a joke. stfu moron.
2017-01-15 04:13:25
2017-01-15 12:56:37
shox is not suspicious :D he is CSGOD
2017-01-05 22:25:30
shox and flusha havent had suspicious clips in ages
2017-01-05 22:29:49
No videos of them ever cheating, though. They're all explainable to the trained eyeball.
2017-01-05 22:31:07
What is your pathology exactly? Do you even know?
I feel bad for you really...
2017-01-05 22:57:19
Pathology? I've been playing top level CS for 15yrs, I know from my own eyes and experience compared to the deluded fools that reside HLTV currently.

If you think there are players in the top level of CS cheating, then that is your own opinion. It'll remain as just and nothing otherwise. You have to see the "bigger picture". There are hundreds of reasons for any pro player's play described BESDIES insidious cheating.

Think about what goes on in every single game of CS:GO. Consistent information CONSTANTLY, mental-maps, pre-aims and pre-fires, utility management and many more.

It's basic common sense to those experienced enough or have said experience. To me, those videos are not in the least nit dodgy. There are some VERY dodgy plays -- maybe unexplainable -- but there is a reason for it besides cheating. That only which a full POV demo can provide: context.
2017-01-05 23:03:05
you have game sense? b*please XD. i'm playin cs since 2000 and i know what i'm talking about. you are typical low ksill player. even 15 years isn't enough for you to get some skills about players actions & players psychology. (sad, 15 years, still ls).
they literally used aimlocks in pro mathces.
stop speaking on the internet if you can't even find a video on youtube.
2017-01-06 14:36:09
Apparently you don't... If you were playing the game for THAT long, you'd know better than to believe some untrue, biased YouTube video as concrete proof and evidence.

Either you're baiting, you're stupid, or you were never good at the game to begin with.
2017-01-06 16:17:24
you think as woman thinks. you think that you are thinkin but you are wrong. this is just a words throws from you. you need to make a choice:
1. "you play this game as long as possible and you believe to the guy which actually tells the true about cheaters but some cock from hltv tells you that you just baiting and his name is jonty0432 so i mean it's my nickname"
2. "you play this game as long as possible and believe to the deceiver but you are wrong because i'm a woman and i'm silly and i just don't understand anything but still try say something because i think that nobody won't notice that i've no head."
2017-01-06 16:38:25
Preamble, nonsense, rambling, deranged, nonchalant text.

If you truly have been playing since 2002, you'd know from the experience alone not to believe YouTube videos.

Therefore logically according to the most apt assumption, you've never been good at the game.

Another point for logic. I'd suggest you start getting better at the game instead of being so easily fooled by witch-hunters making videos because they cannot understand said professional plays.

Good day.
2017-01-06 17:59:27
so what we have.
-jonty: if you playing since 2001 you must don't believe to your eyes and just keep thinking that no one is cheater it's just a random aimlock through the walls.
-jonty: and yeah if you don't think so that means you are b*dead cuz no one is cheater also kqly and other guys who get banned for cheats. anyway no one is cheater.
-d1sturbiq: you are wrong. i can't get it anymore. just try to ask some pros and they will tell you that this moments 100% illegal. bad day for you cuz you still think just like a woman. you continue to build the opinion at the expense of conjectures and argue without facts.

Post edited 2017-01-06 19:55:33
2017-01-06 19:54:00
Again, preamble. Understand my point before replying and making a tit of yourself.

If you were truly playing since 2000, you'd know purely by experience these players are not cheating. Either you were a very bad player, or you never played CS professionally.

Good luck continuing the accusation of that which you do not understand.
2017-01-08 16:43:24
You are the guy with face it lvl3, lol fuck off to reddit moron
2017-01-08 18:12:13
Wrong, I am the only person within this discussion chain with a working brain. If you had one, you'd know the story behind the FACEIT profile, wouldn't you? Also Reddit is a bunch of sycophantic morons, who couldn't find their own arse with with both thumbs.

Forgive me for teaching the witch-hunters that which they could not learn themselves...

Have a good evening, fayde-.
2017-01-08 18:14:39
You are a hltv obsessed kid who thinks he knows the truth, mate I had friends playing in leagues and making it to hltv games with cheats, the only think that made him take a ban was gathered info by some guy and reporting him on faceit

Stop acting like a smartass just to get some rank on hltv
2017-01-08 18:21:21
plus one more point
2017-01-09 00:04:04
It would appear you haven't read anything I've stated as your post has nothing do with the aforementioned text displayed.

Instead of spouting false speculation, but those "skills" to good use and think logically... No proof exists of any tier 1 teams/players cheating, hence the unintelligent conspiracies surrounding.

Good day.
2017-01-09 00:23:56
Proof? Are u some kind of retard? Koly was tier 1 player and got banned.

There are tons of evidences like this one which is fcking obvious

I don't expect a lvl3 faceit player to understand but whatever stop acting like you know how thing works, u have no idea. Even shox, a fcking top10 player was saying flusha cheated, maybe he knew because he cheats also but it doesn't even matter at this point
2017-01-09 00:29:23
"There are tons of evidences like this one which is fcking obvious"

No, there isn't. To the trained eye, these can easily be explained. However, conspiracy and corruption will remain as just, won't they?

KQLY was banned for cheating. If any other pro player is cheating, they will be banned too, won't they?

At this point, it's highly unlikely considering the only forms of "proof" are easily explainable clips and unintelligent claims.

Whilst your logic is correct, you still cannot see past the barrier, can you?

Good day.
2017-01-09 00:31:46
Trained eye, god Damn your stupidity is beyond limits, how is the eye trained in that clip where he shots through walls and we couldn't ever hear their movement.
I've been playing this game for years and I competed with pro players and u don't develop this eye superpowah which helps you aim through walls m8.

No, they won't get banned as there is not only one cheat on the market, even koly afterward said there are cheaters.
What kind of proof you need brain dead boy? Spinning around and speed hacks? These vids show everything but you obvs can't understand since you can barely reach lvl4.

"Good day" dude fck off, stop acting like wannabe hltv mod,fag
2017-01-09 00:39:04
Once again, you fail to see past your barrier, don't you?

"Trained eye, god Damn your stupidity is beyond limits, how is the eye trained in that clip where he shots through walls and we couldn't ever hear their movement.
I've been playing this game for years and I competed with pro players and u don't develop this eye superpowah which helps you aim through walls m8."

If you've truly played against pros, then you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Don't get all angry because you fail to provide proof for such alarming statements.

Good day.
2017-01-09 00:41:17
the barrier? stop living in your imaginary world kiddo

i know what are you talking about, i understand what are you talking about and i come to the conclusion youre a braindead bot.


do you understand that even shox called flusha a cheater? a guy who won a major is calling another who won a major?

do you even brain?

not good day, i try to explain a retard some things about a game which he can barely play and i fail because he is braindead and that makes me unhappy

Post edited 2017-01-09 00:53:38
2017-01-09 00:53:27
You send me this video and it isn't proof. It's the opinion of a braindead and defunct witch-hunter that has purposely taken all of the context out of innocent clips.

Shox assumed at the time Flusha was cheating back in 2014... when he was the best player in the world. Now, he regrets the decision or have you recently asked shox about the video? Hmm? It was his opinion just like your opinion Flusha cheats also.

Fact alone you are being deluded and so easily fooled by videos like this is exactly the point I'm trying to prove in the first place... If you truly do have experience with professional players, you'd understand my point completely and wouldn't argue, act like a child, post videos like this that literally prove nothing and claim accusation on an incident that happened 3 years ago.

Anything else you need teaching on?

Good day.
2017-01-09 00:58:25
i will stop trying, you are oficially the most retarded person ive met on internet, idk if you are baiting hard or some mental problems

2017-01-09 01:00:18
Sure. Denial if I've ever seen it. Try reading the text properly rather than succumbing to stupidity and conspiracy.

Bearing in mind you ACTUALLY think that video is proof, therefore assuming you didn't play with any pros whatsoever to be so easily fooled by garbage clips you present as "evidence".

Remain as deluded as the rest of the woolly rabble.
2017-01-09 01:04:44
kys jonty
2017-01-09 15:39:35
Baiting makes you unintelligent. Refrain from doing so in the future.

If this isn't bait, it's then a threat or an informal post still retaining an essence of "threat" regardless the subject matter.

Having such a blunt opinion and statement purely of the basis of a few logical arguments is a little bit redundant and daft, but then again this is HLTV, is it not?

You think pros are cheating, your opinion is respected. It is never fact and it's obvious to anyone with experience pro players are not cheating nearly as much as the rest of you think.

Have a good day.
2017-01-09 15:42:31
kk you are smart i got it ok
2017-01-09 15:43:17
mental problems :3
2017-01-09 02:02:29
point plus one (+1)
2017-01-09 00:32:12
plus one point
2017-01-09 00:03:03
I saW tHe pleYer llook at ENEmy thrUGH the WaaL
2017-01-06 18:16:07
good for you.
2017-01-06 19:56:27
2017-01-06 14:22:14
Why shox and niko? wtf
2017-01-06 01:10:02
This is the right answer.
2017-01-05 19:12:14
Everyone k bai
2017-01-05 11:16:37
tbh I don't think anyone is cheating in the T1-T2 scene, but that's only my opinion

Post edited 2017-01-05 11:38:59
2017-01-05 11:38:39
i respect your wrong opinion
2017-01-05 11:47:27
2017-01-05 11:47:44
2017-01-05 11:48:37
2017-01-05 14:58:07
at this point I guess its a bait XD
2017-01-05 11:50:08
XD, nt edgy 15 year old
2017-01-05 11:58:23
It's not an opinion at this point anymore.
2017-01-05 11:55:40
Nobody will get banned, because it's obvious many pros are cheating and by banning 1 of them, he would just complain and expose everything so yeah, Valve's not gonna do shit.
2017-01-05 11:40:33
2017-01-05 11:45:52
Oh no... How false you are. Have you not exposed yourself enough yet?
2017-01-05 17:05:34
Lol thats just nonsense and a stretch. 1 banned pro couldnt really do a shit about the others. Its not like they are connected to eachother using same cheats or something xD All people would hear "whinewhinewhinewhinypig". Also "many" is a stretch imo, more like "some".

Post edited 2017-01-05 19:17:46
2017-01-05 19:16:29
Well you can find at least 1 obvious aimlocker in basicly any tier 1 team (expcept NIP).
2017-01-05 20:15:51
"Well you can find at least 1 obvious aimlocker in basicly any tier 1 team (expcept NIP)."

I'm going to save this statement. Don't you dare ever accuse someone of cheating again.

2017-01-05 22:40:45
that is nothing but a (conspiracy) theory, and not an absolute truth like 50% on hltv makes it out to be
2017-01-05 22:28:56
Everybody is cheating at Tier 1-2 teams. EVERYBODY. I mean people say that NiP arent cheating, but they beat SK, the number 1 cheaters. Nip cheat, vp cheat everybody cheats.
2017-01-05 11:40:50
God to be the most stupid thing I've ever read on this site. Considering what HLTV consists of, congratulations are in order...

Don't play or watch CS:GO if you've come to that conclusion.
2017-01-05 19:30:27
You are just blind to truth.
2017-01-06 11:31:43
"Everybody is cheating at Tier 1-2 teams. EVERYBODY."
"You are just blind to truth."

Oh the irony... Don't play CS:GO. Ever.
2017-01-06 16:18:32
Why play CSGO if its infested by cheaters. You probably mad cause your favorite team are cheaters and you are cheater aswell. L2P instead of P2W
2017-01-06 18:29:17
"You probably mad cause your favorite team are cheaters and you are cheater aswell. L2P instead of P2W"
"Everybody is cheating at Tier 1-2 teams. EVERYBODY."
"You are just blind to truth."

Please stay away from CS:GO... You are not intelligent enough to touch it.
2017-01-07 20:44:35
How can u comment on pro cs if you have no scene.
2017-01-08 09:45:34
Yap - more bait. Thus proves your overwhelming lack of intelligence right there in one post.

Don't ever touch CS. You are not intelligent enough to touch CS.

"You probably mad cause your favorite team are cheaters and you are cheater aswell. L2P instead of P2W"
"Everybody is cheating at Tier 1-2 teams. EVERYBODY."
"You are just blind to truth."
2017-01-08 16:27:46
vp - everybody cheats
nip cheats
wtf are u saing brah
in vp byali using aimlock
in nip idk
2017-01-05 22:38:20
2017-01-05 11:42:51
2017-01-05 11:43:09
Tier 1-2
2017-01-05 11:47:31
>Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo is the biggest cheater in cs history
>Marcelo "Coldzera" David is the biggest cheater in cs history

pick one
2017-01-05 15:05:23
nobodys getting banned, even IF anyone was on the FUCKIN GEAR they would get caught
2017-01-05 11:43:15
Where's the logic behind that statement lol?
Ever heard of tour de france? Oh, nobody were jacked there because they didn't get caught.. Thats right..
2017-01-05 15:08:00
A random French
2017-01-05 11:48:59
maybe kqly has siblings lel
2017-01-05 14:55:59
Keev (germans cant be baned too good cheats)
2017-01-05 11:51:14
Ange1? I hope you are kidding, how is he even in this list?
2017-01-05 19:46:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-jU2NtETyk pls explain this shit :D
2017-01-05 20:06:16
2017-01-05 22:23:00
im HR fanboy, so I want to believe hes clear as he has just one Fishy moment, but this looks kinda suspicious

Anyway I hope it was coincidence and NiKo should be in list aswell
2017-01-05 22:36:21
ye i like ange1 too but that was just weird.. look him player cam after that... rubbing nose acting innocent xD..
2017-01-06 15:09:24
- juho is clean

- maRky is proven to be cheater (leaked chatlogs), ayken banned, xenn banned, j1n only assumption because he played with many cheaters and irl friends with them, but you can't know for sure.
- am0 proven cheater.

- others you just bullshitting with no evidence.
2017-01-09 02:36:53
none will be banned cause private cheats are way ahead of anti-cheats.
2017-01-05 11:56:20
rip dream:(
2017-01-05 14:54:11
even if somehow anticheat caught someone. i think valve might step in and not ban the player. just make him retire or some shit. because they dont want to damage more their already shitty image.
2017-01-05 14:58:52
+1 unfortunately
2017-01-05 17:03:46
2017-01-06 18:19:04
All of the SK

Post edited 2017-01-05 15:00:59
2017-01-05 15:00:50
subroza but he's so bad that they will ban him cuz not even hacks safe dis brick.
2017-01-05 15:01:17
Subroza and MarkE wont get banned because they're too scared to do it on LAN
2017-01-05 15:04:58
Most damage
2017-01-05 15:07:00
Rush I guess..
2017-01-05 15:08:44
Rush if thats the optic guy. Right now he seems to be the most blatant one. Maybe hes clean anyways, who knows :)
2017-01-05 15:09:59
No one cheats from the top teams
2017-01-05 15:16:48
nt games of thrones

just open ur lovely eyes
2017-01-08 18:13:51
It would appear YOU need to open yours and not be so easily fooled by silver witch-hunters making YouTube clips.

Seriously, why is everyone so deluded and easily fooled by "YouTube" videos as proof?!
2017-01-11 15:43:09
I understand u

there is no pro csgo players in ur whole country coz they r suck

only silvers

why u even here ?
2017-01-11 23:40:56
1. Subroza
2. MarkE
2017-01-05 15:18:56
Tier 1 / Tier 2

1. Subroza
2. MarkE

2017-01-05 17:09:57
Idiotic thread purely to start flame wars and heated discussions. No player cheats in the top level of CS. It's only the opinion of deluded witch-hunters without proof.

2017-01-05 17:06:18
cant tell if ur retarded or fucking retarded.. well cant expect much brains from uk scener))

Post edited 2017-01-05 17:53:29
2017-01-05 17:53:10
Ironic considering post #24.

Don't ever watch CS:GO if you think that many pro players are cheating. Start playing it instead. You NEED to.
2017-01-05 19:28:59
hy am jonty i come from inbred island named UK and im deluded kid who have no clue of cs because UK SCENE))
2017-01-05 20:17:21
Well, if you think that then you're more deluded than I initially thought.

You want to keep going? Or are you going to provide proof as to why you believe ALL those players are cheating?
2017-01-05 22:30:17
yeah im not even gonna argue with someone who has iq of potato. really dont know if ur retarder os jsut attempting to bait
2017-01-05 23:05:03
IQ of a potato? You think ALL of these people are cheating:-

- rush
- Fallen
- Coldzera
- Subroza
- Ange1
- Keev (germans cant be baned too good cheats)
- Ayken
- Xarte
- Marke
- Juho
- Xenn
- J1n
- Am0
- Shox

Don't make such stupid statements unless you WANT to be known as a black kettle pot.
2017-01-05 23:06:57
let's say we are the idiots and deluded witch hunters without proof, which means you are not idiot, neither deluded and aren't which hunting, but the proof? Show us something strong that proves pro players are not cheating. I bet you didn't know kqly was cheating before he got Vac banned, now did you? Now how can you be so sure that nobody else wouldn't do that? Because they got scared? LMAO
2017-01-05 17:58:01
I suggest you not even trying, he cant be reasoned with.
2017-01-05 19:20:11
"Show us something strong that proves pro players are not cheating."

Sure thing. Without being deluded and idiotic, watch every pro game to date and there is all the proof you need.

Ah, witch-hunters... You'll always remain distant and unable to see the truth.

Post edited 2017-01-05 19:27:45
2017-01-05 19:27:29
Jonty you rule dude
2017-01-05 19:44:25
Thanks for your kind comment :D Thank you again for being one of the few people here with a functioning brain ;)

Have a great day, SJ158.
2017-01-05 19:58:48
or maybe you are just too hypocrite to accept the truth
2017-01-05 20:14:31
Ah... because the truth is every player in the top scene is a horrible cheater, right(?)

No proof exists to make that claim. It's all explainable to anyone with a micro-fraction of a brain cell.

Until then, you'll remain as deluded as you'll ever be, won't you?

Good day.
2017-01-05 21:47:42
Hahaha. Going for the simple stupid and incorrect answer, NAIS

Btw what is with you attacking every which-hunter, calling them by every name you can come up with? " here with a functioning brain "Clearly shows that you have no arguments neither proof that pro players AREN'T cheating.

Have a good day.
2017-01-05 21:32:43
It isn't incorrect. As soon as you've learnt to decipher what is and isn't cheats, your argument will remain invalid, won't it?

One day you'll learn... Probably.
2017-01-05 21:46:45
Show me facts that prove against pros cheating please. You are just so stupid and keep ignoring the questions what people ask you. Your smart ass doesn't belong to HLTV if you have no facts

EDIT: I have a strong fact, Kqly Vac ban

Post edited 2017-01-05 22:20:19
2017-01-05 22:20:02
"Show me facts that prove against pros cheating please."

I already did. Go on YouTube and search for any professional game with top teams after (KQLY, sF and emilio of course) and watch it.

There, proof. Now don't be deluded and call hacks on other players without proof but benign opinion.
2017-01-05 22:25:38
Explain KQLY vac ban - i'm waiting
2017-01-05 23:06:16
Read my blog. It's all in there. If you're going to read what I post, do not reply.

Considering you think I bait and only bait, it's probably best you do not read it actually...

Never mind. Good day.
2017-01-05 23:08:12
Expected reply of this sort. Nt tho, bye
2017-01-05 23:12:29
I completely deciphered your response, your own text and your very own opinion, to which you then prove my initial point and leave.

2017-01-06 16:19:27
Hilarious is the fact that instead of explaining what i've just asked you you come with such ridiculous response.

Dont reply to me again
2017-01-06 20:23:52
I answered you and told you the explanation is in my blog. If you don't want to learn to read, that is your fault and not mine.

People like you never learn and it's not very hard to see why, is it now?

Remain in complete and utter denial as post #167 clearly displays.

Good day.
2017-01-09 00:25:47
Have I called haxx on someone? NO = FUCKIN deBUNKED

"Go on YouTube and..." Bs, taht is no fact, go watch a video of legit aimbotter and I BET ON 100 you wont make a difference between aimbot and legit aim. Now go to your cave and wash your teeth clean of those smartass sentences
2017-01-05 23:53:56
You have called hacks on someone before, but you'll either forget to remember it on purpose or continue to babble deluded and incorrect statements.

If that isn't proof enough for you, then you need to play CS:GO to "pro" level, don't you?
2017-01-06 16:20:28
"You have called hacks on someone before..." Take a screenshot and show me and I'll trade you a 50cent skin, I promise.

If no screenshot, no proof = false statement = I win
2017-01-06 16:57:26
Yep, thought so... Just as predicted.
2017-01-06 17:57:11
No arguments = no proof = false statement = post debunked = u lier
2017-01-06 18:10:57
Well I've an eidetic memory and I do not easily forget things, unfortunately.

I also remember when you thought TACO was cheating. I debunked the clip, to which you continued to show delusion. You then thought I "made-up" the fade-away headshot.

I could go on, but you've proven delusion and denial before. Right this very second, actually...
2017-01-06 18:13:35
ahahahah the taco clip: ALL I said was that he as a pro palyer should know the height of the truck even tho there is a smoke there and I smelled some fishiness there bu t NEVER called him out. Go ahead and reread my post about the taco clip if u wish so, but u are lying.

Made up fadeaway headshot: This is some high lvl delusionn from you man, I never sai you made ir up, I asked you what it was if you knew it so well, but you kept ignoring me and never answerd thequestion. If you disagree, go ahead and feel free to reread the post again. Again you are lying to make your point show stronger to other ppl, shame on you.

EDIT: you have nothing to remember, you use imagination and lies to prove your points which I can see through very clearly, I am not stupid.

Post edited 2017-01-06 18:22:41
2017-01-06 18:16:48
So, you remember the TACO clip, but not the part that exposes you?

I don't lie and I do remember it. Alas, a fools errand as you'll probably think that clip is still proof of cheats, right?

Don't watch Dan M anymore. Please.
2017-01-09 00:27:12
I NEVER stated that the clip is proof of pros (taco) cheating [Another lie]

What part exposes me? Copy-paste the part of my comment that was wrong and go ahead and expose me if you think you are so right about this. My word: You are exposing yourself with the lies you are throwing to me [Another lie]

What part makes me a lier or a delusionist IF I watched Dan M videos? Maybe I watch just to see what clips he is posting, cuz I am not the guy to be on HLTV 8hours a day and wait for someone to post a clip and waste my precious time on it.

Now try again, or ignore and admit that u lied
2017-01-09 17:01:07
I didn't lie. I do not lie. you're clearly embarrassed, I would be to to admit such a stupid anomaly.

However, you're not addressing the point raised, are you?
2017-01-09 17:16:02
I just proved that u lied and you answering my post exposed you cuz u have no proof to your points and you keep ignoring me, when I ask a picture of a certain sentence u said I once wrote. I am not replying to you anymore, because it is pointless to argue with someone that doesn't know how wrong they are. Have a nice day!
2017-01-09 17:17:49
Ignoring you? You're missing the point yet again, aren't you? Why bother explaining it again and again to a person who remains deluded and not able to see reason?

The pen is another castle... sheep.
2017-01-11 15:44:22
lmao, the stupitidy
2017-01-11 23:33:58
JW was close and decided to play T2 than reach ban
2017-01-05 17:16:52
Most AWP kills
2017-01-05 19:25:36
Who busts cheats?

It's not Haci.

It's not you.

Information leaks and video footage mean absolutely nothing. Even Lan coders that use the product themselves won't get banned from tier3 tournaments even if you know who they really are.

Valve isn't Blizzard, names lead to nothing.

I've gotten thousands of cheaters banned recently, but I can't help to think that my efforts are pointless once one finds out that the 2014 VACening had nothing to do with investigation efforts or pros snitching.

It's a cheat developer that caused it by backstabbing supex0.

It's that simple.

If you believe that any vaccenings will happen anytime soon due to behind-the-scenes events, you might as well uninstall. Last case was 2 years ago, and it won't happen again as I'm sure supex0 has told everyone about his mistake already.

These pro players will never get banned, face it. One get breached = 1 Pro player falls. That's months of efforts for nothing.

Rizla did do heavy research around the cheats sF had yet the list he made meant nothing. Just KQLY + sF + some randoms because people have different coders, remember?
2017-01-05 19:35:43
It's a sad fact that these "pros" will never be caught.

How can an ESL / ELeauge / Major Org Heuristic scan catch what there is only one instance of, you feel? Valve knows and nothing will ever come of it, unless these "pros" have some sort of fallout and find ways to definitively start selling each other out (please egos, do your thing.) Valve makes too much money off these pros, their events, and the free advertising CSGO gets off of them. Why would they ever blow the scene up?

I hope egos come into play here and it blows the scene up. I just want to watch this scene burn.
2017-01-05 19:38:39
Reading this makes me sad.
2017-01-05 20:02:12
boots vs Jonty

Two ends of the Cheating Pros scale
2017-01-05 19:52:36
I've already exposed him on my blog. Do not look at his profile. You'll lose IQ points.
2017-01-05 19:58:06
jonty is definitely on the spectrum somewhere :)
2017-01-05 20:01:51
boots... All of the videos on your profile are NOT CHEATERS. The only thing that's "sad" is that you will never actually open your eyes and see the bigger picture.

Gabe Newell himself could fly down to where you currently reside, reveal every single pro player to you one by one, IN PERSON, have them sat down in front of you playing CS alongside you.

You would STILL think they were cheating... All I can you do is wish that one day you'll actually play the god-damned game instead of fruitlessly being deluded on a daily basis.

You've been exposed on my blog and your own threads and in my GBE's, yet you still will not let me help you even though I've deciphered certain videos with you, PLAY BY PLAY.

Use your brain, boots. You do have one, your wall of text was well written albeit the information being extremely convoluted.

Good day and bless your poor soul.
2017-01-05 22:00:37
u can't bait me bruh nice try tho
2017-01-05 22:13:33
Fact that you think this is bait proves how overwhelmingly deluded and arrogant you are.

Learn to read and STOP exposing yourself.
2017-01-05 22:18:35
pls stay away from my threads, thanks
2017-01-05 22:18:55
Why? You made this thread, so you should suffer the consequences. If you didn't want opinion or constructive criticism, think twice before making one next time.

Don't be daft and state something extremely stupid.
2017-01-05 22:20:24
i dont want to hurt you kid
2017-01-05 22:21:58
"i dont want to hurt you kid"

The only thing you "did do", is bait everyone here and state stupid things.

You don't want me to post in your threads, don't make them -- especially about a topic as this one as you know how I feel about professional player cheat accusations.

Grow up. Eat your pie.
2017-01-05 22:24:09
actually the only one that got baited by my thread is you. and nope i dont know how you feel about it as i barely know you. i just saw the thread including your faceitprofile. at least get on a decent skill level before you even talk about a topic like that son.

and ofc pros dont cheat, kqly was legit as we all know

Post edited 2017-01-05 22:27:41
2017-01-05 22:26:49
The faceit profile is explained on my profile. I'd suggest before making a topic about this, actually play some CS:GO first.

People don't get baited unless the thread itself is bait. Is it? You admit this entire thread is bait, do you?

Eat your pie.
2017-01-05 22:28:52
yeah ofc its explained blah blah blah, you suck at the game, a least stop lying to yourself. and i wont eat my pie as i dotn want to get fat. but i wont make fun of you just because you have one or two or 20 punds too much.
2017-01-05 22:31:11
Well if you didn't want to eat the pie, you shouldn't have made it in the first place, should you?

Here: Have a knife and fork. Do not make bait threads, do not make threads about pro players cheating without proof and do not state that I cannot post anywhere.

I am not breaking any rules here, only you are. Learn from your mistakes, lest you succumb to stupidity by that of an overweight frog.

Enjoy your pie :)
2017-01-05 22:33:02
kqly got banned. kqly was a pro. proof is here son. now go get your tea.
2017-01-05 22:34:01
You're exactly right. So... if Flusha is cheating, he'll get banned too, right? Just like KQLY, right?!

Your entire is admitted bait. Either act logical or not at all.

Stop baiting people and finish your damned pie.
2017-01-05 22:36:06
no he wont he isnt cheating
2017-01-05 22:36:29
I completely agree. Let's hide the pie and start from scratch. Do not bait me and I will not aggressively state various things.

How was your day today? Did you have a good New Year's?
2017-01-05 22:39:22
Im fine ty, you? and who do you think will be banned next?
2017-01-05 22:46:27
Personally? Someone from the group of "semi-pro" players around tier 5-6 that usually try and cheat their way into FPL and further.

They never make it out of tier 5 and always get banned by the AC. It's mostly German's too, which is a little unfortunate as I know a lot of very good German players.

Tier 1-3 professionals, however? Never :)
2017-01-05 22:52:21
jonty get a life
2017-01-09 13:07:06
I have one. a great one, at that. I think every single time I've seen you post, it's been pure speculation, assumption and insinuation.

It's unhealthy and clearly compensation. Want to tell me anything about your life, Dayne_Dank?

Or do you have something to bring to the discussion that is the lack of proof defining pro players to be cheating, hmm?
2017-01-09 15:34:04
2017-01-05 21:56:03
KQLY+SF were only banned because of extraordinary circumstances. Do not expect any other pros to get banned unless they start selling each other out.

Post edited 2017-01-05 22:22:00
2017-01-05 22:16:53
you shouldnt take this thread seriously;)
2017-01-05 22:28:23
it was smn, a former customer who played professionally for team alternate that backstabbed me, not a cheatcoder.
2017-01-07 20:07:05
why do you make cheats?:( too bad to play normal?
2017-01-07 20:29:00
cs private cheats is a big market these days $_$
2017-01-07 22:13:25
big marekt for no lifers
2017-01-08 11:30:55
one team that has won a major last year has someone in their team that contacted me roughly 2 years ago. I wouldn't call successful people no lifers - unless you categorize no lifers as people who play counter-strike professionally.
2017-01-09 17:29:03
i called you a nolifer, not the players. anyway cheaters are fags as well.
2017-01-09 20:05:02
you seem to be salty. were you one of the wannabe "I turn pro soon"-guys I declined to work with?
2017-01-09 20:27:45
no i dont want to go pro. but i hqte people like you that destroy the game cause they suck.
2017-01-09 20:33:19
ok good
let the hatred flow through you
2017-01-09 21:44:06
probably you arent even doing shit, just seeking for attention cause you saw ko1n getting some
2017-01-09 21:58:42
2017-01-11 00:17:23
2017-01-11 10:34:40
get triggered m8
2017-01-11 13:26:08
nah not by a fat kid
2017-01-11 13:27:33
im not a kid anemor
2017-01-11 16:43:49
okay i didnt know that sorry. i didnt want to hurt your feelings:(
2017-01-11 16:46:42
tnx bae
2017-01-11 17:02:18
no homo maj friend
2017-01-11 17:02:36
actually I'm not too horrible when playing most video games
my interest in altering video games in a way that give you an advantage got awoken when I was at a very young age, so "why do you make cheats?" - "because it was a hobby of mine - turned to a profession"!
2017-01-09 17:26:08
maybe a doctor can help you to get over the lack of love from your parents?
2017-01-09 20:05:54
2017-01-05 19:43:29
There is so many cheaters atm. But obviously valve doesnt care about csgo(updates etc..) they dont care if they cheat they just want free money and nothing else. If they are going to ban these players no money to valve.
Atm csgo make so mutch money to many people/organisations so there is almoust 0% chance to these players get ban. And no i dont say every pro players cheats but there is many, im pretty sure every top 20 teams have cheaters and even lower tier teams have. In real sport people use doping so why not in cs???

The truth is hate for only those who hate the truth.

Post edited 2017-01-05 20:15:46
2017-01-05 20:12:02
"There is so many cheaters atm."
"The truth is hate for only those who hate the truth."

No proof, your own opinion, garbage explanation with zero logic.

Wow... you're on fire, aren't you?
2017-01-05 22:19:26
Pls tell me what you accept for proof? There is already vac banned pro players but that is another story. If your logic is that why you can get overwatch bans? One demo no proof.
2017-01-05 22:32:06
I've already stated this many times. "proof" is full POV demos and not inconsistent clips with zero context.

Full POV demos provide all the necessary context provided, therefore enabling statistical and logical plays, via analysing situations ethically and professionally.

Not a 12 second clip of a pro doing something dodgy... Sorry Dan M, but grow a brain or get out of YouTube :/
2017-01-05 22:38:18
Not sure if you are just stupid or troll or do you get money for this? :D just keep living in your wonderland. Go watch those pov's there is same shit going what you can see those ''12'' second clips
2017-01-06 01:04:27
"Go watch those pov's there is same shit going what you can see those ''12'' second clips"

If you think they are both exactly the same, then do not play CS:GO. I've literally just previously analysed the two for you, to which you insist on showing denial.

How does it feel to know you will never have proof of these players cheating? And that they will never be banned? Maybe for once, learn to eat pie and accept the truth?

No? That would actually require rational, coherent thought? Ah, my apologies (!) ...
2017-01-06 16:22:17
Why should i quit playing csgo? I know they will never get banned and i accept that but that doesnt change the fact that there is cheaters. The whole scene is pretty hypocrite. Do you ever think kids who are trying to go pro? They train everyday but at the same time their ''idols'' are cheating you ever think that? Im pretty sure you are those kind of people who say we should help these ''immigrants'' you just cant accept the truth and thats it.

And do you really think there is 0 cheaters in pro scene? What is more likely that there is 0 cheaters or maybe lets say 10-20% pro players cheat? People will do anything for money.

Post edited 2017-01-06 18:12:39
2017-01-06 18:10:31
"I know they will never get banned and i accept that but that doesnt change the fact that there is cheaters. The whole scene is pretty hypocrite. Do you ever think kids who are trying to go pro? They train everyday but at the same time their ''idols'' are cheating you ever think that? Im pretty sure you are those kind of people who say we should help these ''immigrants'' you just cant accept the truth and thats it."

Your logic is somewhat correct, but again you fail to see what is right in front of you, don't you?
2017-01-06 18:14:25
Im not bilbo baggins so im bad with riddles so pls tell me.
2017-01-06 18:19:18
Byali. Proof: https://youtu.be/3qG4ibZPjBE
2017-01-05 21:13:13
No, this video is by Jns. a butthurt witch-hunter that couldn't his arse with both hands or his legs.

Do not be fooled so easily...
2017-01-05 22:01:24
2017-01-05 21:59:40
Edward and Kioshima xdddddd
2017-01-05 22:28:12
None of these people are cheating... :/
2017-01-05 23:09:11
and you know it damn well :D Your the boss, your always right :)
2017-01-06 00:01:03
"and you know it damn well :D *You're the boss, *you're always right :)"

No, I am always rational and logical. Learn a few things...
2017-01-06 16:23:47
hahahaha, this is hltv, do you really think I didn't know when to write you're and your? In hltv nbody cares of grammar, the main thing is that everybody understands.
2017-01-06 16:59:06
Well start making sense then. Thus far, you have not. Provide proof or remain having your own opinion.
2017-01-06 17:56:23
you are soo fuckig stupid and ignorant man. Keep lying that the posts dnt make sense, since you dont want them to make sense. Replay when you have a clear mindset and dont posst ignorant shit
2017-01-06 18:09:17
Now you think my posts are ignorant? Despite the fact I just debunked your hilariously deluded posts...

Good god you're doing it again.

Let's start again. You think who is cheating and why? Then I'll debunk that, too.
2017-01-06 18:15:25
u debunked shit man, and again you go with the lies and try to make your point stronger, pls stop with those, everyone knows you are ignoring the facts and questions and go with "learn to read" "play the game". Go home man
2017-01-06 18:18:26
Do they? Is there anything you state that isn't speculation or conjecture?

Is there?
2017-01-06 18:26:24
yes there is. As they say, hard work pays off, you'll fin them if you search enough
2017-01-06 18:27:51
So... your answer is no then. Typically derivative.
2017-01-08 16:44:29
can you read? I said "yes" yet you still don't manage to understand, u retarded?
2017-01-09 16:57:23
Given your full answer, the yes is disqualified wholeheartedly.

Sorry to burst your bubble, lack of logic.
2017-01-11 15:45:56
given your full asnwerm the yes is not disqualified wholeheartedly as you can't read and understand me.

Sorry to bursh your bubble, lack of brain cells
2017-01-11 23:34:54
They all are cheating or atleast have fishy clips which cant be explained.
2017-01-07 06:42:32
NO... they are not.
2017-01-07 20:43:32
Yes!! Explain flusha's fst flick movement vs NiP at iem Katowice then.And explain flusha's double spray which convinced shox that he is cheating.
2017-01-11 10:37:30
"convinced shox that he is cheating."

Go home kid, you're drunk.
2017-01-11 15:51:26
"If you cant explain something,ignore that part and attack on rest of the comment"
Only reply to me if you have any explanation otherwise just shut the fuck up idiot kid.
2017-01-11 17:24:31
I don't think pros cheat tbh
2017-01-05 22:08:07
first thing i do when i see these threads: ctrl+f jonty
2017-01-05 22:27:36
Oh... I sincerely hope I've never offended you then? Despite my countless arguments with many trolls/witch-hunters, YOU are entitled to your own opinion.

Never let anyone tell you different.
2017-01-05 22:53:22
oh stop it, you're making me blush
2017-01-05 23:09:32
Oh, my apologies. That was not my intent whatsoever.

I hope you have a great day, friend. Honestly. I hope you had a good New Year's, too :)
2017-01-05 23:11:27
get right
2017-01-05 22:53:54
2017-01-06 14:37:30
2017-01-06 14:38:55
wait to see this major
2017-01-06 17:58:21
also pro players say that aimlock is common nowadays but we don't have enough evidence to expose players so better shut up instead of say xd VAC xd
2017-01-06 18:04:40
2017-01-06 18:14:37
Subroza absolutely. Also Fallen
2017-01-06 18:20:36
hen1 cheats 99.9% sure
2017-01-06 20:25:39
oh and taco
2017-01-06 20:27:11
2017-01-06 20:26:02
Oh look it's the same bullshit Thread again. So sad
2017-01-06 20:29:59
you mad bro?
2017-01-06 21:37:12
probably marke mexico is succ at cs kkona
2017-01-07 20:33:59

Pick one
2017-01-08 16:33:31
2017-01-08 18:08:14
SUBROZA CHEATING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8q2Ls9p15o
2017-01-08 18:10:47
Doesn't show cheats.

When you have a book full of words, do you look through the words or just the words itself?

2017-01-09 00:29:41
I cant anymore tell if you are a troll or just a fucking retard. You say that demos etc... isnt evidence so wtf is evidence if not demos? You can see that there is something definitely wrong (not human aim.). Your only argument is that ''youtube'' videos isnt evidence or demos isnt evidence.

My conclusion is that you are retard or you are trolling and if you are trolling pls go to hospital that isnt anymore ''normal'' trolling. But overall obviously you have a somekind of serious mental illness so pls go to hospital.
2017-01-09 18:37:44
"My conclusion is that you are retard or you are trolling and if you are trolling pls go to hospital that isnt anymore ''normal'' trolling. But overall obviously you have a somekind of serious mental illness so pls go to hospital."

100% wrong, but then again you think 12 second clips and YouTube videos are undeniable proof of pro players risking their entire life's work to cheat, don't you?

I hope you never meet a pro player in CS:GO... Dear god - the reports they'll receive...
2017-01-11 15:47:17
The risk is so small to compared what they can get like in ''real'' sport. And even if you get caught you dont have to give your money back. And i have played against pro players in csgo first time was in 2014. We didnt even win with 3 cheaters in our team :D Ofc we get a chance to win if those 3 guys played blatant but thats not fun.

If somebody tells you can play pro and they give you very good cheats why not do it? Ofc i dont like these cheaters but it is so ez money. And the risk is so small volvo doesnt care like we can see. Ofc you can live in your delusional world where everything is like in fairytale politicians speak truth, atheletes dont use doping etc... There is still so mutch people like you, who cant admit the truth. But maybe someday you wake up and think out of the box and that will be your best day in life. I can bet that you are those kind of people who are waiting refugees with refugees welcome sign.

Post edited 2017-01-11 22:38:43
2017-01-11 22:38:05
Subroza ez
2017-01-09 02:54:33
byali cache one was so suspicious
2017-01-09 02:59:32
No 1
2017-01-09 13:04:58
no one in any tier 1-2 team
2017-01-09 13:06:22
subroza is only 101% cheating player.
2017-01-09 17:00:47
Vacation guy, Mini from DarkPassage:

2017-01-09 20:10:35
2017-01-09 20:35:17
xantares, coldzera, rush
2017-01-09 20:40:44
I was going to mention some SK players, but then i realised you only meant tier 1-2 teams.
2017-01-11 10:41:22
2017-01-11 17:04:45
ye cus sk guys are tier god ?
2017-01-14 16:56:58
If Valve can get good cheat coders to work with them, all pro cheaters would probably get banned/retire/stop cheating. Videos and demos are never enough to prove it, unless someone spinbots at LAN or something similar. We need software evidence.
2017-01-11 17:06:02
i think that following players are the most suspicious
- Subroza (100%)
- Shox
- edward
- Hen1
- Marke

and the biggest cheater is Smithzz
2017-01-14 18:06:26

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