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Bad Aiming in MM vs. good Aim in DM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFn0mSc2co

Need Help!
Ps: Not me Singing.
(156 replies)
Created 2017-01-11 11:06 by: KroosMeister
Don't worry about your bad aim.
Just look at BOT device. He is mediocre aimer but still kids thinking that he is good player lmao
2017-01-11 11:16:22
About his aim its true. He comes to Brutal dm servers sometimes and cant do shit.
2017-01-11 11:24:03
CS is not always about aim, also about situational awareness and positioning.
Look at Scream. Insane aim (also proves it live) but his clutch abilities are sometimes questionable.
Dev1ce probably trains alot on 1v1 and retake servers. Because this is also important. Awareness, where the player could be is like 50% of the kill
2017-01-11 11:36:11
+1 knowledge about how you master a situation is more important than pure aim.
2017-01-11 12:04:51
It´s 50/50.
2017-01-11 12:43:14
+1 ScreaM is just aim
2017-01-11 12:56:11
Don't bother, you're losing your time! Even in 100 years people here will not understand that CS isn't 100% pure aim/raw aim, LMAO.
2017-01-11 14:50:45
How is ScreaM clutch abilities questionable ?
He has most clutches on G2 lul
2017-01-11 15:34:47
Wtf is wrong with you and device ? Did he fucked your mum or what ?
2017-01-11 11:59:35
+1 rofl, "device mediocre aimer".. dafuq?
2017-01-11 12:35:25
+1
2017-01-11 12:40:34
mediocre aimer is going to be in the top 3 on the player ranking this year :)
2017-01-11 11:59:59
You don't need to be good player to score easy exit and eco frags :)
Many eco and exit frags = good rating.
Good rating = easy top20
2017-01-11 12:27:36
Rofl, you're so lost mate xD
2017-01-11 14:26:41
you do realize ´they filter eco kills out to an own categorize in terms of rating, right? proven from the spreadsheet for last years list
2017-01-11 16:20:58
nice bait bro
2017-01-11 12:36:05
but my russian team mates don't think i'm a gud player
2017-01-11 12:53:23
They only testing your mental strength! Or maybe they are shy to confirm that you are bestest!
2017-01-11 13:06:18
thank you for those kind words mister!
2017-01-11 13:06:54
Every time I see someone shitposting on Nicolai, it's this same guy. Gimme a match that Device had a good rating, but in your opinion did not have any impact besides ecos. I will watch and analyze every single round and tell the outcome to you. After that, pls shut up :D
2017-01-11 13:53:27
let the haters hate. you can't get him to shut up :D
2017-01-11 13:55:29
I actually would want to do it, let him even choice to match Devve did score easy eco & exit frags :D
2017-01-11 14:00:31
ok, now it's LBJ's obligation to deliver an example :D
2017-01-11 14:05:12
Yeah, I've seen LBJ so many times writing his same phrases, now it's time to stand behind them. With clear evidence this time of course :P
2017-01-11 14:18:26
I'm your witness before the court
2017-01-11 14:23:51
LUL
2017-01-11 14:24:30
It means you are too stressed in MM and can't control your aim.
Your aim is correct, when you are in MM try to play like in DM, no stress, stay cool ;)
2017-01-11 11:17:31
Not always that easy with all the russian vodkas screaming at you :D
2017-01-11 11:19:07
+1
just try voice_enable 0
2017-01-11 11:21:25
Why do Germans complain about toxicity but they are in any top 5 list toxic countries?
2017-01-11 11:26:26
I agree, 90% of germans are toxic, but volvo chooses to match me up with russians on eu-north, in soloq i'm usally not seeing any germans in my team
2017-01-11 11:29:04
Eu North:( [*]
2017-01-11 11:42:28
are you only playing on eu north? what is your ratio between russian and english in voice chat in an average match?
2017-01-11 12:27:39
i only get 20% russki in high ranks
2017-01-11 13:45:47
Depends on what rank I am, now in LE it's like roughly 50/50(meaning 50% russians or sounding like russians, and 50% other countries). When I was Global it was way less. Russians aren't the most toxic though, they just don't speak english.
2017-01-11 15:48:24
Nice b8 m8, everybody on hltv is global..
2017-01-11 15:52:54
always mute everyone that doesnt speak english, you will get distracted by their babbling
2017-01-11 13:34:37
its probably because u are a nervous kid and u dont care in dm
2017-01-11 13:58:59
Use the steam lobby feature. I got from lem to ge with the help of lobby system
2017-01-11 14:45:48
this is true. when i feel pressure in MM i do like the french, step outside take cigarette and surrender
2017-01-11 13:47:00
play more retake and 1v1 servers
it help you
2017-01-11 11:19:19
i'll try to play more retake. my personal experience with 1v1 was, that i became really bad in mm-duels :D
2017-01-11 11:35:33
ur better off just playing a pug game than playing retake, dont focus too much on one thing in the game, just a play a pug where u go through the most.
2017-01-11 11:59:08
Just find an open community comp server and play and relax. Once you start to relax and do good, carry it to a real game and dont let anything get to you.
2017-01-11 14:40:03
I was like you

To be better in MM you kinda have to "not care" about your aim, don't "over focus" on it

best plays are made when you have no pressure. Even if you're losing 14-15, it's just a MM, you played more than a thousands of them, so chill and ez frag


you think to work well in DM's tho, caring too much about K/D, camping, etc.. isn't gonna make you a lot better.

Post edited 2017-01-11 11:22:40
2017-01-11 11:21:20
i guess you french guys here are right. I am really focused / stressed in matches, but i was always. and those problems occurred a month ago or so. Before i went to supreme in about 900h and now, after 1200h im stuck on lem....
2017-01-11 11:26:21
He's right. Don't give a shit about your aim, rank or whatever. Just do your thing. Get the right mindset! You're stressing way too much without noticing (like me back then).
2017-01-11 11:56:01
I know that feeling, for me it was this "oh noes I have to win this, I have to win this" feeling every match and scared to lose my rank, so my aim and concentration went down cuz I was too stressed. You have just to try playing with the mentalaty as if you are on a average public, without losing focus.

BUT

you never used and never played any tournament to now so you can't affirms
2017-01-11 11:58:26
ESEA rank C matches feel like tournament situation to me :D
but you are probably telling the truth. Dunno how to get rid of the rank in my mind.
2017-01-11 12:05:48
It's not the rank that's important. It's important that you're doing your job, leave everything out, but not your "job" and that is contributing to the team with kills, assists and everything else.

I'm sure window cleaners up on skyscrapers don't think about the height or that there is a chance that something could go wrong and fall to their death. Just focusing on their job, doing it good and then go home,

CS:GO quote that fits: "This is easy! We kill them and then we go home!". No thoughts about "I could get killed" or "What happens if... etc."
2017-01-11 12:14:30
good quote Sir!
2017-01-11 12:20:57
+1
2017-01-11 16:17:22
Yeah, i think that your nerves are the problem here, and maybe that you focus on thinking like where ppl are etc. so you dont pay that much attention to your aim in mm. In dm, you just run and gun, you dont have to think about the game and so on, so it's much easier to just focus on aiming, and take it more relaxed.
2017-01-11 11:23:28
Most of the soloq i have to somewhat igl, because lem mates often don't really know what to do as a T in this game...
2017-01-11 11:27:29
if you focus less on keeping your teammates alive and more on using them as bait and guaranteeing trades, it will give you more time to aim at enemies

1 for 1 trades on t side are all you need, its always 2v4 or 3v5 or something like that on one half of the map

Post edited 2017-01-11 13:37:32
2017-01-11 13:36:00
Stop paying too much attention to it, it is like on the 2nd place, think more about the game but never overthink it. As long as you can get the opponent you are facing with less than 8-9 bullets, you are alright.
2017-01-11 11:24:27
I'll try my best. But the conception is anchored deep in my mind.... :D
2017-01-11 12:40:35
the reason why you aim good in DM is because you're just running with no purpose, there is no peeking, just spotting enemies while running and then shooting.

in matchmaking you can't do that, you have to learn to peek properly and aim more with your mouse rather than with strafe keys

just do basic peeks, you don't have to counter strafe, you don't have to crouch, you don't have to jiggle peek, you don't have to pre shoot, keep it simple and you'll be surprised how effective it is
2017-01-11 11:26:43
probably right. But i'm just confused, because everything was fine just a few months ago. I went to supreme in less than 900h, and now after 1200h i'm stuck on lem.
2017-01-11 11:34:44
take break then, when you come back you will play even better than when you reached supreme
2017-01-11 11:52:13
probably you are shit
2017-01-11 11:29:38
+1
2017-01-11 11:32:53
you are german just use aimbot like other players from your country
2017-01-11 11:34:13
do i really have to senpai?
2017-01-11 11:36:12
u are lem so yea...
2017-01-11 12:27:18
ok, can you recommend flusha's mouse?
2017-01-11 12:28:28
ask for ko1ns config
2017-01-11 12:37:34
Ok, i'll not forget the gg ez after every win. Thank you my master.
2017-01-11 12:42:12
np u can send me his configs too i want to play in NiP or fnatic too
2017-01-11 12:43:15
also your muscle and reactiontimes are always warmed up and on point in dm because of the constant action. in mm there are many rounds where nothing is happening so your mind drifts off and your muscles get weak.

so in mm always try to keep your arm/wrist sharp with movementshenanigans while nothing is happening.
2017-01-11 11:38:06
i'm already trying to bhop in those moments, but i can't bhop :(

But that's a good / interesting point. Maybe I'll start aiming at random stuff when the situation allows it.
2017-01-11 11:40:50
imo its better to focus on proper crosshair placement and just make sure you dont spend 30 seconds standing on the exact same angle aiming at the same spot. adad a bit. move around your cover. and make sure that you are always canceling your movement automatically so if you see someone all you have to do is click at the right time when youre standing still because youre already aiming at the right spot.

if you go throwing your mouse around stewie2k style (he only has this 'habit' to hide when he toggles btw) you will die if someone peeks you at that moment.

you just need discipline. that comes with practice.
2017-01-11 12:09:10
I have a 27 in 1 Crosshair-placement. i think i'm aiming head height, but i'm just hitting the less vulnerable carotid artery
2017-01-11 12:17:01
aiming at the bottom of the head hitbox is good if you spray, if you only aim 1 pixel higher, so the first bullet also has a chance to hit the headshot, then you dont have to pull down as hard to stay on target, especially on close range

you only have to go for the fattest part in the middle of the head if you want to shoot at moving targets, that gives you more margin with the timing

Post edited 2017-01-11 13:13:14
2017-01-11 13:12:54
sounds right but I often have the feeling that aiming just a margin above the head, or in the upper third or so, gives you way more headshots... but i can't concentrate on that all the time
2017-01-11 13:15:52
yes you can
2017-01-11 13:32:14
dm isnt everything, dm is for flicking, you just get so used to your sens that if you need to flick you dont even think about, BOOM flick and kill, but being good on 'mm' is by positioning, if you open pixels right you will kill the guy, open like a retard and you will be kill, try to open to a pixel that only 1 guy sees you etc... and flash corners before picking, use nades etc... you are already good in those dm clips, just learn how to play on good positions and open corners and you'll be fine xD
2017-01-11 11:39:34
Dm is for aiming, MM is for knowing where they are, xhair placement & smartplays. Dm f is like 80 % or more for me, counting suksess rate.

Post edited 2017-01-11 11:43:59
2017-01-11 11:43:33
+1 by the video the guy linked here, was more like, he needs to walk left, counter strafe and shoot on a corner you know? hes is more like just walking and trying to flick, against good players he will die 90% time doing that
2017-01-11 11:44:49
*for the protocol* those were just scenes form one dm-session and from one mm-match, where i was somewhat tilted. I do not always peek like this.
2017-01-11 11:51:25
oh.. ok.. but thats the difference, just pay attention, and play when you really want to play =P if you are trigguered already just dont queue up again XD
2017-01-11 11:52:18
Yeah, but i don't want to finish the evening with a bad game / loss. I think I can't get rid of this mentality.
2017-01-11 11:53:17
yeah, the more patient and calm you play, you will play better lmao, try to chill, go around the house little bit, then sit down again and play =P with me if I'm trigguered mad af and queue up again without taking time, I'll probably get rekt again XD
2017-01-11 11:54:35
and then youre even more stuck on having to win a game causing you to tilt more

you have to stop caring so much about your wins and your rank, just play the game and try to get better.
2017-01-11 12:00:50
For me it's like this - the longer lose streak I get, the more laid back I play. I don't care about tryharding anymore.
2017-01-11 18:30:27
good for you. im way too competitive to have that mindset. i want to win really badly. but i also want to learn to play the game properly. raging/tilting makes it harder to learn, so i usually try not to

only thing that still really gets me sometimes is russian teammates
2017-01-12 12:38:49
Imo most ppl aim on "automodus aka, they don't" just AIM :D Focus 100 % on where ppl can be. Just do alot of DM, try to have your mouse stable when shootin. When you play a mm match and goes for aimduels, dont back away, you can ad ad and go behind boxes, but go in the duel with the mindsett am gonna win, don't be afraid of dying.
2017-01-11 11:41:51
Maybe its your game sense? ive pretty much never play Aim tranning and it gotten me to global with shitty aim, But i know all positions they can be in every situation that i end up out playing them anyway.

Also in DM. 1v1 you are more foucoused since you know you will encounter a enemy soon, Meanwhile in matches its random.

Post edited 2017-01-11 11:45:07
2017-01-11 11:41:59
1st: I think my game sense is good for the lvl i'm playing at. Those were just scenes from one game. If you want me to proof, i could make some highlight videos with clutches that went my way because of game sense.

2nd: Any idea on how to keep up the focus without actively thinking about it every second?
2017-01-11 11:56:10
I belive you,

Use drugs... or just learn to focus. I mean i have ADD and i can still focus during most of my time gaming.
2017-01-11 12:16:27
drugs sound like a fun idea to mee
2017-01-11 13:02:57
dont stop moving, keep pressing adad when youre holding angle.

if you watch pro players play in pugs they never stand still aiming at the same spot for more than a couple seconds, then they move around a bit or weapon switch or take another angle

its physically impossible to pay peak attention all the time, the trick is to 'activate' your focus at the right time just when an enemy will peek, by peeking just a bit earlier. if you peek too early, youre slower and the peeking guy knows at which frame to check your position so he will see you faster than you can react to his peek. then its just a certain % he will hit the flick

this cant happen if youre not standing still exposed
2017-01-11 13:42:09
good point!
2017-01-11 13:43:49
and because fucking bots like you im losing games on mm. you fucktard l2p your aim or gtfo
2017-01-11 11:57:16
ceep calm carl
2017-01-11 12:01:13
you lose because youre bad and have a toxic attitude
2017-01-11 12:01:40
lol, because dropping 45bomb on global elite and still losing makes me fucking bot, yeah. its because retards who can't aim like you
2017-01-11 12:02:20
no its because youre fucking toxic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJOwdrTA8Gw
2017-01-11 12:03:13
I'm not playing on GE lvl, so i won't ever match up with you and hinder your game my master...
2017-01-11 12:11:50
Rofl im always doing good in MM games. Mid to top nt dude.
2017-01-11 12:12:47
Ohhh not this guy with worst aim video ever..... Dude play some tetris instead you are bad bad bad
2017-01-11 12:14:39
get gud
2017-01-11 11:48:35
tell me how senpai
2017-01-11 12:10:20
use rebbecca as you're nickname then you gona get g00d
2017-01-11 12:18:22
smithzzzz*
2017-01-11 12:23:45
u cant compare mm with dm. You get second chances in DM, u dont in MM. Another thing is that u have a different mindset. When ur playing pug games, its not all about aim, thats just one part of it, crosshairplacement and positioning is a huge factor. If your standing in an off angle, u can destroy anyone who has better aim than u. Make sure u always pre aim anges u think the enemies might be, dont just walking arround in mm like u would in dm, because thats the difference, dm is fast paced and mm is slow.
2017-01-11 11:57:15
just play more matches and chill the fuck out

when you play dm your thought process is this: oh theres a guy here. let me aim at his head. tap. tap. tap.

in MM you think this: OMFG theres a guy im gonna FUCKING DIE HAVE TO HIT HIM NAAAAW and then you panic spray

chill. the. fuck. out.
2017-01-11 11:58:01
Quite a precise representation of my thoughts.
2017-01-11 12:09:00
stopped watching after 2 seconds when you clip out a single kill on dm lol
2017-01-11 12:05:57
just went for the headshots, streaks mostly are boring
2017-01-11 12:07:51
Because you "train" in 128 tick and play in 64.
2017-01-11 12:09:26
The only time i really feel the difference is in pistol rounds. Can't hit shit with usp on 64 tick, glock is ok...
2017-01-11 12:23:46
In MM people try not to die thus not over-peeking. You should not compare your aim in DM to MM as people care in MM and are trying their best to not die while they run around like headless chickens in MM thus easy to kill
2017-01-11 12:18:44
use smithzz as you're nickname then you gona get g00d
2017-01-11 12:22:53
in DM most players move like silvers or are silvers
2017-01-11 12:25:41
trying to play only on 'mer il et fou' or similary, no volvo dm
2017-01-11 12:30:08
in your clip all the frags from dm were very easy frags
2017-01-11 12:33:13
may be true, but doesn't change the fact, that those shots were aimed in a much smoother way than the mm-fights.
2017-01-11 12:34:40
in DM people normally walk in straight lines or strafe a bit if they're in hsmod. It's easier to aim against them in DM as opposed to in a real game.

Post edited 2017-01-11 12:36:34
2017-01-11 12:36:18
its because there is no pressure in a dm you can run around aiming how you want and you respawn if you muck up. You dont get this luxury in actual games, when you die...you die. So this about your mental state when you play, you're obviously thinking way too much. try to relax when you play
2017-01-11 12:38:57
maybe adderall? :D but i got your point.
2017-01-11 12:46:17
>2017
>LEM matchmaking
gg wp
2017-01-11 12:47:56
but what else? faceit so many hackers and always esea is too exhausting / demanding.
2017-01-11 12:51:00
point is you're LEM xd
2017-01-11 16:11:55
DM and 5on5 are two different games. doesn't matter how good you're at DM, aim maps, etc...

I watched your clip and noticed that in 5on5 game you have bad reaction/reflexes, bad movement, probably bad taping. To be honest your game looks like LE or even worse.

Post edited 2017-01-11 12:53:28
2017-01-11 12:53:16
Those are only clips from one match where I was tilted... It's not always that bad. I can proof
2017-01-11 12:54:33
yep, I understand but first of all you definitely need to improve your reaction/reflexes.
2017-01-11 12:56:28
you deserve it for solo queuing so yeah try not to be so autistic and make a few friends
2017-01-11 12:58:36
most of them are nova-mg. And there are some people that don't want to play together, so i have to play with them separately so still 2-3 russians...
2017-01-11 13:00:19
if possible play the same spot/position where you feel best at as often as possible. dazed said that in one of his great videos. he said something like "I can't play every position ct site dust2 good so noone of you can."
specialize and become really good in different areas. let's say you play cache: you feel most comfortable with a-site red - so try to improve there and try to play it as often as possible. on t-site you can copy things the pros do. if you watch alot of demos of your fav team you gonna realise the players play the same ingame role 99% of the time. that's why they are so good.
2017-01-11 13:07:31
that's a good point, i already have some of those spots and know about them. But often it's not possible due to mates saying they can only play this position, so i think it's a better compromise to go elsewhere so they don't start with a negative mindset.

Post edited 2017-01-11 13:14:02
2017-01-11 13:13:55
bad teammates have nothing to do with bad aim. let's say you play dust 2 a long and they can't hold mid or b just for 10 seconds, you gonna end up bottom scoreboard most of the time and it's still not your fault. check out dazed channel on youtube.

https://youtu.be/jlfSo8Tbnqw?t=411

@minute 06:51
2017-01-11 13:16:28
thx for providing the source. Definitely something to look into.
2017-01-11 13:19:55
thank you for all the input, watching the video right now.
2017-01-11 13:51:05
consistency is kind of overrated

being consistent only means youre at your peek and youre not trying to learn new stuff. it means you cant improve anymore. you only do the stuff you know and get consistent results.

i'll take an inconsistent player with some imagination and the right attitude over a consistently average player
2017-01-11 13:52:59
I don't know how you can have problems with getting your favorite spot. Every time at the start of the game I tell where I want to play and in 95 % of games nobody protests.
2017-01-11 18:46:34
N0things tips are great when im in a really bad slump https://youtu.be/u4wwkLF1cxQ?t=22m58s
2017-01-11 13:21:28
people should be forced to listen to that before they start playing cs.

2017-01-11 13:23:57
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2017-01-11 13:36:37
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2017-01-11 13:44:49
Welcome to the club bro :( In DMs, I play really good and top frag in retakes and 10 mans and I only play 10 mans with premier players. When I go into ESEA or Faceit pugs, I struggle and I mess up my sprays and aim. I'm always afraid of getting hit so I'm always afraid to shoot :( I've been struggling with this for ages and I'm reading a few sport psychology books to get better. I'm still B- with 13RWS though. Hopefully I can attain my full potential soon.
2017-01-11 14:33:05
for how long have you been playing cs go?
2017-01-11 15:30:13
3 Years! I used to be confident as fuck but a while back my headphones started to stop working and my sound in game got fucked for some reason, at that point I lost confidence in my game for some reason as I kept hearing footsteps from the wrong directions. I no longer could play as I used to and even after I fixed my sound issue, I never got my confidence back. I used to be very confident of pushes as I was sure I'd hear steps and react but now Im always afraid, checking everything, lookig at the radar all the time. I'm afraid. When they push, I feel afraid, I'm scared to shoot, I always feel like I'll miss my spray and I'll just die. It's been getting better though. I've been spending 2-3 hours on deathmatch and now I can spray people pretty well when I'm on a team with good players. When others are communicating I can trust myself and concentrate on playing well but when we start losing and teammates stop calling, I doubt myself once again and start missing shots. I need to fix it.
2017-01-11 15:33:34
no worries, after 12 years this feeling is still arround ahah :P
2017-01-11 16:19:02
go play aim-botz - better than fucking dm on BrutalCS Srv!

m4 - 200kills
ak - 200kills
awp - 100kills
scout - 100kills
famas - 75kills
galil - 75kills
p250 - 50kills
usp - 50kills
fiveseven - 50kills
glock - 50kills

ez road to global!
2017-01-11 14:58:04
tried it. after the first 1000 kills my arms swell to pasha size and now i can hit every headshot my friend. 7/5 would recommend
2017-01-11 15:31:04
Yea, same here. I can go into any aim server and get a 3-4 kd ratio with no issue whatsoever, I can tap them down or spray on aim_map and get 2-3 people with every spray. My spray control is perfect and my aim is just amazing. My reaction times are so good as well. Every time I play on aim maps, people either leave or go into spectator mode and call me a hacker. I go into a pug or scrim and I suck again.
2017-01-11 15:35:23
Lul you are simply posting highlights from dm and comparing them to your fails on MM, I'm sure you could do some kills like the ones in dm easily on mm. I've also had a problem with stress in every clutch situation but since I've won most of them and now I got confident.
2017-01-11 15:39:20
Start cheating like real german does.
2017-01-11 16:01:22
I'd say it depends on the tick of the server... Obviously you can't aim as good in 64 as you can on 128.
2017-01-11 16:23:12
It's the same environment for both teams.
2017-01-11 18:59:18
true. I just have the feeling that i cannot hit a thing with the usp on 64 tick.
2017-01-11 19:54:45

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