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MARINE LE PEN WILL WIN CONFIRMED
The same AI system that predicted Brexit and then Trump's election win says Le Pen will be France's next president

http://vesselnews.io/ai-predicts-le-pen-frances-ne..
(219 replies)
Created 2017-02-16 18:02 by: sk0ffin
Marine the Pencil needs lobotomy
2017-02-16 18:03:59
LE PEN IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD
2017-02-16 18:07:58
machine gun > all
2017-02-16 19:29:18
is mk-19 a machine gun?
2017-02-17 06:29:52
god damnit dude, LE SWORD*
2017-02-22 00:40:04
Why are you so sexist and misogynist??? Why do you want to stop the first female president in history of France??? Stop being xenophobic!!!

Post edited 2017-02-16 21:26:56
2017-02-16 21:25:53
You have no clue of what you're talking about.
2017-02-21 15:43:09
he has a clue my friend, he is saying what all the leftist and cucks would say. You have no fucking clue about our shit society
2017-02-21 16:40:12
Maybe he doesn't, because Russia is long time friend with Le Pen family and russian medias praise them all day long ?
2017-02-21 23:34:21
Do you think a big data analytic company isn't aware of the produced impact of this kind of article on the voting process?
2017-02-21 19:08:42
No she won't

Source: Frenchies are not as dumb as Burgers and Yellow teeth.
2017-02-16 18:08:39
Right, that is why they want to bring in as many terrorists as possible? You see the riots in Paris, what about the hundreds of French citizens killed by ISIS? Yeah you Frenchies sure are smarter than us!
2017-02-16 19:01:30
Hundreds of French citizens killed by isis LUL What does that have to do with us being smart. They are terrorist attack.
2017-02-16 19:05:13
Hmm I don't know maybe it's because your country just lets in whoever wants to come in (terrorists) and there are no go zones in France where rapefugees can do whatever they want with 0 consequence??? Yep, not very smart! You'll see in 5 years just how bad it will get, this is nothing for you yet, unless Le Pen saves your baguette ass
2017-02-16 19:08:25
Hum i dont know Donald Trump is letting people from Saudi Arabia (people who caused 9/11) in but not people from random Muslim countries. Not very smart. And the refugees in France are staying in Calais, we're not aloud to let them into our homes. The terrorist from the Paris attack came from Belgium, are we not suppose to let people from Belgium in to France ?
2017-02-16 19:14:17
+ Calais jungle is no more, and there were approximatively 7k.
People want to make everything bigger than it really is, they honestly have no clue and just repeat what some stupid guys repeat (generally on youtube)

Post edited 2017-02-16 19:30:31
2017-02-16 19:29:41
what do you think about this?

https://wikileaks.org/cia-france-elections-2012/#P..
2017-02-16 19:38:20
Check FranceLeaks
2017-02-21 19:12:16
Je m'en vais En France cet été est ce que je dois faire attention à certaine chose ?
2017-02-21 17:56:05
Tu vas où ?Si tu vas à Paris fais juste gaffe aux pickpocket, aux arnaques et fake taxi(not the fun kind)
2017-02-21 17:58:08
trump banned travel from 7 countries, yes he should have banned even more countries I think, but are you really trying to say that France is better than Trump? How many countries are banned from entering France? How many "refugees" are pouring into your country? why are there NO GO ZONES in Paris??? Why is there so much civil unrest and rioting? Because you baguettes are stupid and have surrendered your country. better pray it gets turned around quick before you are forced to worship islam. and yes, don't let in people from belgium unless they are extremely well vetted. belgium is the epicenter of islamic isis conversion in eu. real smart to let them in!!
2017-02-16 20:22:20
how is life , religious redneck ? still ignorant ? still not contrributing with anything to the humanity ? still spreading hate ? nice
2017-02-17 07:47:12
lul wtf. the crime in eu "no go zones" is not even comparable with the violent hoods in usa, and you are not even accepting refugees. so why all this crime in da hoood mate, i dont get it
2017-02-17 08:26:55
because leftist democrats have driven our cities into the ground for the past 70 years. don't talk about things you know nothing about. the cities will get better once we bring our jobs back, your no go zones will only get worse since your cucked govt wont do anything about the refugees
2017-02-17 15:38:14
hm it actually seems i have a better understanding of your countrys history than you. not gonna waste time explaining it to you tho. mby see you in the states next year? mby gonna take my masters degree in history there you know

Post edited 2017-02-17 19:30:09
2017-02-17 19:28:22
why, you want to waste your money and fail the degree? because you will
2017-02-17 19:35:49
leftist democrats running cities? blue states are WAY better off than red states. I know you are probably not big into facts and actual evidence, but check it out. https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-depend..
2017-02-21 22:20:14
Yet none of the USA terrorist attacks were performed by people from those countries.
2017-02-21 19:09:03
what a dumb point. isis home is syria, you wanna let isis people in? wtf? why even risk it?
2017-02-21 22:11:07
don't listen to him, he is probably from oklahoma :D
2017-02-16 22:45:58
You don't live there.
2017-02-16 19:17:57
10k refugees allowed in France, and their stories are still under review. The "no go" zones are "drug zones" and if you think they can do whatever the fuck they want(dealing in broad daylight on the streets) without anyone getting arrested, you're must be delusional.
2017-02-16 19:28:36
lol really ? wtf are you talking about. there are plenty of nogo zones in france, ppl going absolutely insane doing riots and you talk about france as if everything is fine. nice brainwashed kid by media. with ppl like you france is RIP same as germany and sweden.
2017-02-16 21:31:30
oh wow, guess you weren't around in 2005, where riots actually went mental, what is happening right now is nothing, and it happens in shit places of France anyway, give it 2 weeks and it's over, big deal.
I actually live in the parisian suburb(so gtfo saying I'm brainwashed by the media when I see that kind of stuff with my own eyes you retard), saying there are a lot of no go/drug zones would be a fucking lie

Post edited 2017-02-16 21:38:41
2017-02-16 21:36:40
yeah so it's ok for ppl to destroy houses buildings and cars, because in 2005 it was worse and it will be over in 2 weeks anyway. and this is only the beginning, what do you think will happen in 5 years in 10 when more and more of these ppl are in france. can't you imagine what this situation means for the safety of your country, it shouldn't be that hard to understand what the consequences of these actions are. wow rip brain seriously.
2017-02-16 21:44:16
rip retard, the math you do is just plain stupid, more ppl = more burnt car. Like seriously...
2017-02-16 22:10:02
you are a retard lol, do you really think nothing will chance when more and more of these ppl come to france, and due to demographic change. in what world are you living ? in 20 years you will look like wtf happened to my country, or maybe you don't cause you will be one of the first fags running for their lives fleeing france to another country, after you destroyed it with your "tolerance".
2017-02-16 22:12:32
you're talking to an arab
2017-02-17 06:03:22
cton pere l'arabe fdp
2017-02-21 16:38:15
Rip your brain.

Riots are a french thing since decades. The biggest riots in France happened in 1968. The riots atm are not that big but you probably read some propanga shit blaming muslims haha

people like you are not better than extremist muslims. fucking cancer

Post edited 2017-02-21 15:10:38
2017-02-21 15:09:42
I hope you realize that lying, being disingenuous and ignoring clear facts is going to get you nowhere. The fact of the matter is that Le Pen is not the answer to this problem, but there is clearly a problem. Alot of the people who come in to Europe aren't refugees of war, but economic ones. They come to Europe and have absolutely nothing in terms of education or working skills so they're on government funds. Now, it isn't smart to stop migration entirely, especially to those affected by the war the most. But most of the refugees pouring into Europe have been from a flawed system in which they lie about their age, why they want to migrate, their situation and country they lived in.

Post edited 2017-02-21 15:44:34
2017-02-21 15:43:34
"They come to Europe and have absolutely nothing in terms of education or working skills so they're on government funds"

Try to live in France in their situation, we'll see if you manage to stay alive after 2 months with less than 500e in your pocket. Most of them actually work, but illegally, and if they ever get arrested, they leave the country.
You really think these guys get something from our gov ?lmao
just educate yourself about this situation, you seem clueless af.

"But most of the refugees pouring into Europe have been from a flawed system in which they lie about their age, why they want to migrate, their situation and country they lived in"

You do realize that their stories have to be confirmed and are under review before they get a refugee status(France agreed to take 30k, but for now, less than 3000 refugees obtained the right to stay here, and contrary to you, I looked up the numbers) ?
Do you even know how many were rejected by France ?
I don't even know why you talk about that topic when the guys doing those riots aren't even refugees in the first place, and obviously syrian refugees have never been a problem in France.

Post edited 2017-02-21 16:47:23
2017-02-21 16:47:12
Lie after lie, the fact you actually think they're being left off to fend for themselves is pathetic. These people get subsidies from the government for as long as they're unemployed, and, for the most of them only speak and affiliate with other muslims in certain sectors. Also, no one is speaking on bad terms about the actual refugees that are coming from Syria and have fled government persecution, ISIS or any other issue. But those are simply not the majority of the refugees in Europe and you don't seem to understand the distinction. Plus, you're lying about "the numbers" they simply are not published and are also lying about the veting process. There are literally hundreds of adults living in Europe who have claimed to be children as they prioritize children for migration. Also, ever sincr the boost in migrants, France, an already horrible country for unemployment rates, has seen a huge surge. Also these people do not even have to have birth certificates to enter the country, these are open borders and all they have to do is lie. The veting process, open borders and ridiculous restrictions on basic freedom of speech and ideas have cause this problem all over Europe. And the fact that you're sitting here defending the idiotic process in which lives have been lost from terrorist attacks, crimes, especially rape, have gone up drastically is abhorrent and disgusting.
2017-02-21 17:23:18
"Lie after lie, the fact you actually think they're being left off to fend for themselves is pathetic. These people get subsidies from the government for as long as they're unemployed, "
Who is them ?The guys looking for the refugee status ?Then yes they(half of them ~27k) have some place to sleep, but the illegal migrants coming from Africa do not, and have to work illegally as I stated to survive cuz they won't get shit from the gov.
btw I don't know why you talk to me about Europe when the topic here was about France, stay on topic or stfu

Lying about stats ?(you'll notice that every number mentionned is followed by where they got the info, article made in september 2016).
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/monde/migrants/2016..

" 1.656 sont arrivés de Grèce et d’Italie (64% de Syriens, 18% d’Irakiens, 18% d’Erythréens)"
"1.000 Syriens, qui ont déjà le statut de réfugiés, ont par ailleurs été accueillis depuis le Liban, la Jordanie et la Turquie
"

Most of them are from Syria, and no, we don't have a rape crisis because of migrants. I'm not trying to say "we need more migrants, they're so cool bla bla bla", but don't lie about facts when you get your infos from Breibart or some other dumb website.
2017-02-21 17:47:06
You are living in a continent where there are clear laws prohibiting freedom of speech and expression for the media and everyone. I wonder not why you spread such idiocy, stop listening to your crooked media outlets who have to save their asses and refuse to report anything refugee related honestly and openly.
2017-02-21 17:34:04
Wtf... since when don't we have the right to talk about them ?Are you nuts, there are plenty of articles about the subject from multiple french media both the left and the right.

Post edited 2017-02-21 17:54:17
2017-02-21 17:53:27
There was a police officer interrogated in Sweden for stating that most cases for rape in which he investigated were done by migrants. There are clear laws on "hate speech", which is absolutely ridiculous.
2017-02-21 18:05:37
Omfg, I'm talking about France, don't give a shit about Sweden
2017-02-21 18:07:08
The hate speech phenomena is a European wide problem, there are clear laws about it in France. You should be able to say what you want, ridicule should come for stupidity, not your arrest or fines.
2017-02-21 18:14:41
"You should be able to say what you want, ridicule should come for stupidity, not your arrest or fines."
Most important cases where people were fined and forced to quit were people talking about the jews in comedy sketches.
I agree with you that freedom of speech is very subjective here and isn't really applied (negationism is illegal here for example) but I don't see how this is on topic.
2017-02-21 18:19:36
Lmao he lives in France and he knows what's happening you're the one brainwashed by media
2017-02-17 12:47:32
lmao just because he lives tehre doesn't mean he's right. wtf are you talking about, there are millins of germans saying everything is fine in germany and that the rapes aren't true,while i can read it in the police reports. just because a random guy on hltv claims that he lives there doesn't mean it's true. and our medias don't report about riots in france at all. i had to search for it in foreign medias to even know that there are heavy riots in france.

be glad that you are in japan if this is not fakeflag. europe is getting buttfucked by liberals and stupid idiots claiming there is not threat due to uncontrolled migration.
2017-02-19 19:04:14
I'm French lmao and there has been riots in France since the beginning of the 20th century riots are part of the French culture, in France if people are unhappy we riot
2017-02-21 14:44:03
people are brainwashed by fake news and muslim hate by trump fanc ect


Sad.
2017-02-21 15:12:12
I think u don't have a clue avoir this subjects. Rapefugees are not even in France.
2017-02-16 20:08:01
no, no at all no '' bad refugees at all'' LMAO, who is having attacks with most dead people? if we take eu then france is by far first, others have like 10x times less deaths
2017-02-16 20:16:13
I'm not sûre what u are saying but french terrorist attacks were all do by frenchs or belgians.
Ask London or Madrid about less deaths.

2017-02-16 20:22:04
No Go Zones do not exist. Fox News doesn't always say the truth.

Le Pen will be a disaster for the economy as well. Don't get mistaken, Trump and Le Pen or no the same people.
2017-02-16 20:12:40
LOL, yes they say the same thing in germany. "there are no nogo zones in germany, sweden says the same". can you PLEASE turn your brain on and start thinking. you have banlieus where even police is afraid of going in, same as in sweden in malmö or stockholm, or in germany in NRW in some areas, berlin aswell. you talk like a clueless kid not questioning anything you hear on TV. this is not about which country is better or worse, we ar eall together in this boat but ppl must realize at first that the things medias and politics tell you are lies. they try to hide the truth so ppl keep voting for them.
2017-02-16 21:33:52
source : i live there
2017-02-17 05:44:19
there no such thing in Sweden as No-go zones mate. You have been misinformed by 'news' I suggest either to do good research of articles sources or be very sceptical what u read or hear
2017-02-21 15:17:01
"there are no go zones in France where rapefugees can do whatever they want with 0 consequence"

Man, please stop listen to american news, go outside and learn life.
2017-02-21 23:35:53
Afaik the riots are because some police officers raped some dude

Post edited 2017-02-16 19:23:18
2017-02-16 19:23:09
in a muslim country he would get jail for reporting being raped.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bri..
2017-02-16 19:40:32
well let's see i read about like 50 rapes in 2017 in germany done by asylum seekers ( until now) , and there was not a single riot or protest against it. 1 dude gets raped and ppl start burning down houses. yes this is real life...

i saw an interview with a muslim lady who said yeah we are against his police brutality that's why we are here, every year like 15 migrants get killed by police. alright let's see

i saw an official statistics only january to september 2016, and ONLY IN ASYLUM CENTERS, there were offically 139 cases of murder, 1600 violent acts, and 514 sexual assaults and that is only the offical number and only in the refugee centers in germany. 139 DEAD PPL. now count the ppl on the streets, all the rapes and murders, the stealings, the beatings. there are tens of thousands of cases of brutality done by "refugees" which are only 2% of germany population. germans french ppl, swedens we all have the right to riot against this, but noone is doing anything, the medias are lying trying to cover all up as best as they can, while thousands of ppl searching for a reason to go absolutely insane and destroy everything they can even beat up other ppl and women, i saw a video. type in youtube "france has fallen". there is a video where at the end of the video men try to beat up women and drag them into their cars. they are anarchist and nothing else, this is not about this one incident they want to destroy the western society.
2017-02-16 21:40:46
I didn't say this justifies the riots...

The banlieue idiots are doing riots all the time. Always blaming the police and the "system" for their problems. This shit is already happening since decades....
At least this time I somewhat understand what started them (teenagers got basically raped by 4 police officers at day light on a public place). But rioting won't change shit...the responsible police officers will go to jail anyways I guess.


Same with French workers constantly being on strike. Yet they work less and have more vacations than in any other Western European country.

Post edited 2017-02-16 21:54:38
2017-02-16 21:52:55
true, french ppl are really into fighting for what they think is right. but what is happening now is some kind of ethnic riot, which is something totally different. that's why i mentioned the interview with the lady. there are ppl on the streets only rioting, because it was a migrant who got raped, while there are thousands of cases where migrants rape french ppl and noone is on the streets. that is what i wanted to make clear. these riots are just absolut bullshit and nothing else, they just want to destroy everything for fun, and they do it cause noone is stopping them, no police, no courts noone. when this goes on this way, france and germany are done in a couple of years. sweden already is lost.
2017-02-16 22:01:18
Sweden already lost? ok
2017-02-21 15:43:20
you really don't understand why government police force are held to higher standards than random criminals?
2017-02-17 16:03:34
Terrorists in France are for the most born there and not refugees or migrants. Riots in Paris/France happen everytime since decades.

stfu plz

Post edited 2017-02-21 15:03:34
2017-02-21 15:03:19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submission_(novel)

= french real life

Post edited 2017-02-16 19:11:48
2017-02-16 19:09:21
smart enough? I think that ur coutry is fckn ruined, french ppl are all leftist and selfdestructiv but at the same time you bomb middle east and earn their hatred.

Le Pen is prolly going to win because there is no other choice. Leftist would either not vote anyone than a rightwing or a conservative president. You are fucked. You are done.
Rien ne vas plus
2017-02-16 19:56:23
Macron or Fillon is going to win but nice try
2017-02-21 15:16:09
Yes she will

Source: Everyone white perrson besides cucked Parisians will vote for her and libtards like you will be on suicide watch!!! #ImWithHer
2017-02-16 21:30:17
Do you realize how AI works? The algorithm generates its results from collected data and generalizes a pattern from it.

And a lot of fucking data.

To give you an idea, Google's voice recognition is trained on 230,000,000,000 words.

That is 516 lifetimes.

Post edited 2017-02-17 07:53:17
2017-02-17 07:51:19
The french are so cucked that it takes a woman to have any balls

LUL
2017-02-17 08:48:09
MARINE LE PEN IS LEADING IN EVERY SINGLE POLL
2017-02-21 16:33:04
I hope you're right...
2017-02-21 16:47:38
in a world where its Hamon vs Le pen that could very well happen

even Macron vs lepen isn't a safe call to make
2017-02-21 18:26:57
Hopefully she'll win. We need to take back Europe from these fucking left winged cucks
2017-02-16 19:03:40
haha no one will take france seriously if she wins

Left > right
2017-02-16 19:04:56
yes but refugees=problems
2017-02-16 19:06:36
The example of Canada proves you're wrong
2017-02-17 16:11:35
The example of every other country proves you're wrong
2017-02-17 17:10:46
because they're probably not handling it properly I guess
2017-02-17 20:15:00
Left > Right? Ok, that why Europe is at it's glory atm under the left's rule.
2017-02-16 19:08:25
We're actually doing pretty good.
If you fucked your own country over, then that's your problem.
2017-02-16 19:26:01
Your countries biggest party is right winged you stupid fuck.
And you are just proving my point, left winged cucks fucked my country and a bunch of other countries in Europe so i don't get your point??
2017-02-16 19:34:39
1. Our "right-wing" party is actually economical liberal, and not straight out retarded and full of protectionist fucks like the right wing parties in most other European countries (e.g Germany, France,....).
2. They are still a minority in the parliament. They actually have less to say than the smaller middle parties, because they are more often than not completely isolated. Our political system is very different than the ones of for example France, Germany or Italy (tbh I don't know about the Swedish system), there is not just 1 party ruling and the other parties going into opposition, creating a inefficient one-sided shit-show. All parties are basically ruling at the same time and if you want to achieve/change something you always have to work together with the other political parties and find a compromise. This is why our system is so stable and does in most cases a surprisingly good job.

Yes, delusional ideologists fucked your country. If you think voting for other delusional ideologists will solve the problem you're a retard. What you need are people actually living in reality doing rational analysis and smart reasonable decisions. You don't need to be a retarded populist right-wing idiot supporting protectionism in order to take a reasonable approach on the immigration topic.

And please, in the name of Switzerland and all of Europe, stop sending retards to Brussels and finally reform the fucked up EU system. Without the EU Europe's future is fucked, with the current system we're fucked too, and only you can change it (my country will never join the EU if it stays the way it is, we're being blackmailed by the current EU junta on a daily basis and nobody here is willed to give up on our democratic rights just to join a Union where everything is being dictated by Germany and France).

Post edited 2017-02-16 19:51:41
2017-02-16 19:49:28
the only reason you lable ur right wing as not so much rightwing ist because in yout country its normal to hate other ethnics. Even Nazi-Germany would be not "straight" right for you.
2017-02-16 20:01:42
Yes, we're so "racist". That's why we're a country of 4 different languages since 700 years, an immigrant quote of 25% and a very old tradition of giving people who have flee from war asylum.

Go shove your German media EU nonsense right up your ass.


This is the whole problem with you Germans, you're either hardcore leftists, or straight out totalitarian fascists. You never developed a healthy form of national conservatism.
If I read the party program of the AfD I almost have to vomit, it's the only party (maybe beside the CSU) actually speaking out against careless harmful immigration yet the other 98% of the political program is pure cancer and the arguments for why immigration politics have to be changed are often based on some Völkischem nonsense instead of rational arguments (which absolutely exist).
Do not think for a single second that the AfD is anything like the SVP.

Your main problem is that the party that is supposed to have a more conservative view on immigration has become a partner of the SPD in order to stay in power, and their people in charge made decisions that would usually only happen in the delusional minds of extreme leftists. No wonder the people of the CSU (like Seehofer) are mad, so would I be.

Post edited 2017-02-16 20:20:51
2017-02-16 20:16:44
I love your rage :D but u put a little too much effort into insulting "germans". 6/10 tho

The whole problem with "us" germans btw is that we lost 2 World wars and we are still the best country by far in the world. Big problems my friend
2017-02-16 20:47:53
So good that every German who gets the opportunity emigrates to Switzerland.
2017-02-16 21:15:50
EVERY german has the chance to do so but I dont see that many ppl migrating. Btw having 25% immigration doesnt mean you aint racist coz mainly whites are migrating. rekt medpack
2017-02-16 21:22:35
Germans literally flooded my country for the past 10 years, since we signed that stupid deal with the EU (which we basically had to sign in order to keep trading with the rest of Europe, I will never understand why the EU thinks open trade of goods only works when combined with open borders for humans)....

You only have the chance if you have a job offer in Switzerland.


"Whites". Nt up-side-down fire.

Post edited 2017-02-16 21:41:49
2017-02-16 21:29:30
well flooding swiss doesnt demand a large number of migrants considering ur tiny country. We have 80mio so a couple thousands are nothing.

Also your country would be shit without WHITES migrating to your country. Its a boon for you that smart germans come to your country.
That also is the only reason you have 4 different languages because you need them to exist.

you should be a lot more grateful for having us instead of some jihad subhumans my friend.
2017-02-16 22:12:24
But it's A LOT relative to OUR population.

I never said that I'm totally against immigration.
We started to talk about German emigrating to Switzerland because you claimed "we are still the best country by far in the world" and I simply answered that the Germans trying to emigrate to Switzerland obviously think different.

"That also is the only reason you have 4 different languages because you need them to exist."

Are you retarded? We speak German as long as you do, we were part of the Holly Roman Empire till we fought for our independence and succeeded. Our language has absolutely nothing to do with Germans emigrating to Switzerland, especially since most of these immigrants struggle to actually speak our version of German. Which is btw. a very old and natural form of German, belonging to the group of Alemannic German (like in most of Baden-Württemberg, but their language got altered a lot over time...)
Nor has any of the other languages anything to do with immigration (one of these language even only exists in Switzerland). The language borders remain unchanged since freaking 1400 years.

Well I like our German neighbors and German immigrants. Never said anything different. Only problem we have currently is that the immigration numbers have become way too high, it's not healthy anymore, our infrastcuture couldn't grow fast enough, in many places it has become extremely hard to find an apartment, our beautiful landscapes are disappearing more and more because everywhere new houses are being built....that's why the Swiss people want to reduce the numbers (has nothing to do with hate towards foreigners). But the fucking EU is ignoring and even blackmailing us, they tell us that we have to ignore democratic decisions and that we, a sovereign country, have not the right to decide ourselves about immigration into our country...and if we would regulate immigration again ourselves, we would lose access to the EU market. What is this? The Soviet Union? Our ancestors have fought over centuries to become an independent country and now some fucking elitist foreign fucks in Brussels, who have never been democratically elected, think they should decide over Switzerland, and not the Swiss people. Fuck that.

Post edited 2017-02-16 22:48:32
2017-02-16 22:43:26
liberal = right wing tbh

Trump is no protectionist, don't kid yourself. He only spoke about using tariffs to punish his enemies.
2017-02-21 18:03:40
Of course he is a protectionist, he's a textbook protectionist.
Look how he threatens companies that want to invest in Mexico...and not just American companies, also Japanese and German companies.

Even before him the US started a very dangerous protectionist economic strategy. E.g. my friend works for a Swiss company that produces trains and railway systems. Some US state institution told them, that if they want to continue to sell their products in the USA, they will have to produce 35% of them in the USA from now on. What. the. fuck. In case of Mexico you could argue that Mexico is a low cost paradise compared to the USA, but freaking Switzerland....really?
What's next? Are we not allowed anymore to sell Swiss watches in the US unless we produce them in the US?! If they continue with this, I hope the EU stands together and doesn't allow these cunts to go on with this...if they blackmail our companies, we should do the same with theirs. And that's what's called an economic war.

Post edited 2017-02-21 23:45:52
2017-02-21 23:44:13
Threatening other countries is not a textbook protectionism. Did Britain (the bastion of liberalism) become protectionist just because it did not trade with Nazi Germany in the 40s? No, they were at war.

Trump merely threatens war, economic war against the countries he scapegoats. He even calls himself a free trader.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/11/trump-they-think-im..

2017-02-22 00:38:39
Yes exactly. They were AT WAR.
The US government has started threatening even so called "allies", threats about additional taxes and only limited market access, classic protectionist methods.

Kind of absurd that we're now living in a world where the Chinese president speaks out for free trade and an open market while the American president is waging an economic war with the rest of the world (probably not even realizing it). I grew up with the understanding of America as the pinnacle of capitalism, but I guess these times are over...

He already canceled two trade agreements....and the threats towards foreign companies continue.
And as I said, it's not just the Trump government, America has already started a very aggressive economic strategy in the past decade... .

Protectionism is btw not the same as isolationism. Of course he wants trade, but only on his own and very one-sided conditions. America is such a big power, that they can just force single countries into signing one-sided deals with them, and that's one of the few reasons why I'm actually happy an European Union still exists...only way for us Europeans to get fair deals with the US is if we speak with an united voice (and the EU can do that, as the failed TTIP agreement showed). We don't have to sign every shitty deal they come up with, as long as we stand together we have the economic weight to negotiate with the US on equal levels, something the single countries can't do (no deal would harm both parties, but the consequences for a smaller economy would be much harsher; not to mention that the single European countries also compete against each other and if they don't speak with an united voice, the one that doesn't sign the deal America comes up with is going to be the loser in that competition.....that's btw. also why Trump hates the idea of an European Union, it reduces American influence.). My country is not part of the EU and you wouldn't believe the shit we had to deal with in the past years....

Post edited 2017-02-22 00:56:05
2017-02-22 00:55:10
but the left cant win in france because the other candidate is very conservativ. There is no left wing anymore in france politics
2017-02-16 19:58:17
macron is left wing, and since fillon is out of the race after this story with the payment of his wife, it will be between lepen and macron. and god forbids macron wins this. he's like the merkel of france, he will do the same shit hollande did. they only reason france didn't take more refugees in is because of the rise of the front national, after the election and a win from the socialsts they will do the same shit merkel did to germany. merkel is also trying to act as if she wants to throw out illegals again, with her "pay them to leave the country" suggestion, she's lying, same as seehofer, schulz and all the other shitheads. after the electioni they will do the same shit they did the last 2 years and germany are too stupid to understand it. i can't even count how many rapes i've read only in 2017 done by these shitty disgusting creatures, and NOONE is on the streets protesting against it.

ofc there are demonstrations accounced against the afd parteitag in cologne in may. over 25.000, while only 100-500 are protesting against the speech of turkish yildirim who wants to advertise erdogan and his presidential election on german soil.

i mean wtf is going on. 500 ppl protesting against dictatorship, and 25.000 against a democratic party that wants to make germany safer again and tells things as they are. lefties are like the cancer of the modern time. they want to destroy the western society. and then this bullshit with spd rising over cdu. 3 weeks ago the spd had like 20% voters, and then schulz comes from eu parlament to candidate as chancelor not mentioning ANYTHING he wants to do, no program no nothing, and spd is now stronger than cdu according to "surveys" by forsa. which would mean that the spd gained like 15% voters in 3 weeks, does anyone believe this bullshit.
2017-02-16 21:54:25
macron wont have a chance vs le pen imo, I mean without the scandal about fillon's wife macron wouldnt even be a contestant for the presidency
2017-02-16 22:05:14
well in surveys they say lepen will win the first "stichwahl" and then lose to macron in the second.

i hope this won't happen, the more countries leaning against this insane eu policy and soros ngos the better. let's see the first vote will be in netherlands on march 15th. PVV from wilders should become strongest party. i hope it gets even stronger than in actual predictions. maybe in germany in septemeber the wins of these countries will also wake up more germans to resist against this selfdestructive politics.
2017-02-16 22:10:24
but wilders is a fckn lunatic aswell, its just gonna show how unreliant all the right wing parties are and in the end strenghten soros nwo and the agenda of USE.
2017-02-16 22:15:06
i don't agree with all of wilders point too, but what i agree is that islam and uncontrolled migration is the biggest threat to safety and culture. What merkel did was the biggest mistake any western leader has done since 1945. well soros is 86, let's hope he doesn't have too many years left. hopefully days.
2017-02-16 22:26:09
macron is not left wing my friend

don't say BS
2017-02-21 15:17:12
Lol hopefully she doesnt win, she is the closest thing to Antisemitism
2017-02-16 19:08:05
FN will win. and PVV will get most seats in NL.

EZ.

Post edited 2017-02-16 19:04:43
2017-02-16 19:04:26
inb4 russian hackers made it
2017-02-16 19:08:12
French MSM is already blaming Le Pen's lead on Russia LUL
2017-02-16 19:09:32
Well, it's already proven that she gets sponsored by some Russian organisation and she also already said that she will recognize Crimea as a part of Russia....so if she doesn't want such accusations, she should probably stop sucking Putin's dick?
2017-02-16 19:28:00
of course she is sponsored by russian organisations , they have the same goal - destroying europe.
2017-02-16 22:30:58
Is it wrong? A lot of political parties in Bulgaria are also sponsored by Russia. Even they have TV channels where they broadcast only russian shit
2017-02-16 19:32:58
I'm not sure France wants to become Bulgaria, just sayin
2017-02-16 20:09:54
Hopefully she wins
2017-02-16 19:21:55
More protectionism is good? Because that's the main effect it would have.
2017-02-16 19:28:50
Forceful integration is not an freedom-friendly attitude either. Besides, I am for extreme decentralization and if it helps to steer europe away from a huge centralized state I am all for it. On a side note, free immigration and the welfate state are incompatible.
2017-02-16 19:39:39
France doesn't have "free immigration". Afaik they even took less "refugees" per citizens during the past "refugee crisis" than most other Western European countries.

Their whole "multicultural/immigration problem" was already created decades ago. Same as in the UK. And doesn't have much to do with giving refugees asylum, they just allowed any fuck from their former 3rd world colonies to emigrate to France/UK. If you want to "fix" it, you would have to get the train wagons ready for mass deportations.

France is THE most centralized country in Europe. Since centuries already. Everything is being decided in Paris, close to no federalism. And Marine the Pencile will do fuck all to change that, that would mean she has to give up on power....
2017-02-16 19:57:37
Yes, but we were moving to an even more centralized structure. If I have to side with the left for decentralization like CalExit I will, even though I cant stand SJWs. If I have to side with ultra conservatives I will do it too.
2017-02-16 20:00:05
The thing is that if the remaining entities are completely isolated, because thy are being driven by some ideological brainwashed right-wing retards promoting protectionism, then the whole reason why you voted for more decentralization in the first place gets lost. I'm always for more federalism, but not for isolationism.
2017-02-16 20:05:05
I take it as a swiss, the classic liberals/libertarians what have you have some voice in your country. This is not the same for the rest of the world. In the rest of the world the majority of the population is either a fabian socialist or a protofascist warmongering neocon. Either way you have anti-liberalism as the core of their doctrine.

That being said I pick my fights and my sides in ways that I think that will lead to a world of Switerzlands trading as freely as possible with eachother, as I said to you in other conversation.

Post edited 2017-02-16 20:09:30
2017-02-16 20:09:03
11
2017-02-16 19:33:28
GO LE PEN. GO MAY. GO TRUMP. GO BOLSONARO.

RIGHT WING FOREVER!

CRY LIBTARDS
2017-02-16 19:55:43
We need to consider Cheminade
2017-02-16 20:05:08
Le pen top1
2017-02-16 20:06:08
We need Sylvain Durif.

Btw foreigners Le Pen program is really on the left side of economy, ie minimum salary up to 1500e/month, same as Mélenchon (supported by communists).

For her immigration program:
Ppl earning 20000€ try to convince ppl earning 2000€ that all their problems come from ppl winning 500€.
Sounds legit.
2017-02-16 20:17:22
"Ppl earning 20000€ try to convince ppl earning 2000€ that all their problems come from ppl winning 500€.
Sounds legit."

That remind me a picture where 3 people are sit on a table, 2 of them have 5 cookies each, the rich steal 4 cookies to his mate, and tell him that his neighbour will steal his cookie. (His neighbour represent an immigrant)

Post edited 2017-02-17 08:48:43
2017-02-17 08:48:28
First fail of this AI i hope !
2017-02-16 21:36:42
if le pen wins , this world is doomed.

Post edited 2017-02-16 22:29:59
2017-02-16 22:29:50
NO IT NOT IT GOOD IF IT WON WHAT YOUR SAYING ARE YOU DUMB SON :D
2017-02-17 05:47:56
yea , no european union very very good very good , russia will swallow you very good very good , im a stupid polack very good very good.
2017-02-17 07:35:02
+1
2017-02-21 15:21:44
You are baiting right? Why would Russia "swallow" Poland if there is no EU? EU is a trading union not a armed forces union you retard. Try again
2017-02-21 18:10:02
lul fak this world lets go revolution wtf are we waiting for
2017-02-16 22:30:54
yes let's start world war 3 and kill each other
2017-02-22 00:05:00
French people this is ur chance to save ur country.
#MakeFranceGreatAgain

Hopefully Portugal follows the same route.
2017-02-17 05:52:50
Which route is following your country ?
You are like refugees but in Switzerland.

In Football when your team win you break our ears, you are so proud of your country but not enough to stay and live in.
2017-02-17 12:53:52
It's good all these frauds are finally getting elected, it's easy to criticize when you don't have the power, now the world will witness these guys are as incapable if not more.

2017-02-17 06:06:29
Says the country that is run by a puppet government
2017-02-21 15:28:13
A country is able to "say" things on HLTV, thanks for the scoop.
2017-02-21 20:25:09
will be ez for russian hackers
2017-02-17 07:50:11
I agree. Russian hackers penetrated the Democratic National Committee with ease because left-wing people are noobs at security. Conservatists are always owning them in digital security.

Post edited 2017-02-21 16:50:46
2017-02-21 16:50:34
quality news
2017-02-17 08:29:49
Lets fucking hope so
2017-02-17 08:32:29
We need MOAR Putin's bitches xDDDDD
2017-02-17 12:50:12
there's no electoral college in france and she's losing to macron 55-32% in 2 tour

wishful thinking

Post edited 2017-02-17 15:50:39
2017-02-17 15:42:20
Liberals lost in Brexit. Liberals lost in America. Liberals lost in the referendum of Italy. The left always loses it's starting to get boring already.. Le Pen will win in France!

#MFGA

Post edited 2017-02-21 16:43:01
2017-02-21 16:42:29
and nothing has changed clown

go back to your trailer
2017-02-21 17:44:28
Leftists leaders have just fucked up countries. Just look at France or Germany for example. Everyone hates Merkel and Hollande.
2017-02-21 17:47:00
macron is not a leftist but ok dumbbell
2017-02-21 17:52:20
Merkel actually comes from the mainstream right wing party.
2017-02-21 18:10:49
France needs LE PEN. VIVA LA REVOLUTION.
2017-02-17 15:42:52
what revolution burguer?
2017-02-17 19:37:02
hahaha palestine flaming usa.. Israel and usa can drop one bomb and whole islam will be deleted from the face of the earth.
2017-02-21 17:45:56
Another Burger he sold his Brain to the Rick Harrison who is owner of Gold & Silver Pawn Shop for buying more burgers. JUST GTFO.
2017-02-17 16:15:25
non-baguettes mad
y tho?
2017-02-17 19:37:56
and what about the second round , cuz usually everyone in the left wing vote against her so in second round they used to get rekt ? anyway y since 2-3 years its the most popular politician in france nothing really new

Post edited 2017-02-17 19:46:58
2017-02-17 19:45:08
she will never win no1one can stand her except dumb and poor ppl
2017-02-21 14:48:56
that's very narrow-minded
2017-02-21 15:00:24
She is like trump, she will do nothing she is saying so who cares if she get elected?
2017-02-21 14:55:02
Becuase Trump does nothing? Go out of your cave my fellow Baguette
2017-02-21 15:01:04
Tell me exactly what he did, except tweets and vacations?
2017-02-21 15:22:25
Repeal of Obamacare, something about abortion, by talking to Taiwan he blurred diplomacy with China, the Mexican president refused to meet Trump because after being elected he said that he WILL build the wall and that Mexico will have to pay for it. He stirred tensions with Iran by questioning the nuclear deal, muslim ban etc... I could go on for quite some time.

Presidency in France has more power than in the US, MLP could do a lot if she was to be elected as head of our country. You'd be a fool thinking that she could not or would not do anything.
2017-02-21 15:29:02
You need to win the législatives election in France after the presidential election my friend or you fucked
2017-02-21 15:42:41
Depends for what. She does not need much approval from the others if she wants, for exemple, tu strengthen police presence in some areas of France. Plus, as sad as it is, more and more people support the FN. She might not be able to do everything she wuld like to. Still, she'll not be totally inept.
2017-02-21 17:19:25
Actually no. To strengthen police force u need to hire some. To hire some u need a budget to be vote at the assembly.
No majority no more policemen.
It is called an organic law of funding laws (loi organique relative aux Lois de finances).

FN getting more support, but for a big part on her name.
Last regional election showed that's other FN representatives can't be elected against the whole rest of parties.
It's even more unlikely FN get majority in the congress that she is elected.
2017-02-21 17:42:48
She will be able to find the budget. She'll cut in gvmnt expenses for social security, international help, etc... Be sure that if She's elected, congress will follow because if she's constantly beeing blocked by the congres, people will make it change.
2017-02-22 00:48:31
I'm not talking about finding it. I'm talking about getting a vote.
Congress will not be changed without people vote. District vote will not let FN be a majority. It's why she want a proportionate vote since ages. Look at last regional vote.
2017-02-22 01:03:12
Repeal of Obamacare: not active yet

something about abortion: not active yet

by talking to Taiwan he blurred diplomacy with China: he stepped back right after when he met China's president

the Mexican president refused to meet Trump because after being elected he said that he WILL build the wall and that Mexico will have to pay for it: Mexican president did canceled his trip, Trump did nothing but tweet.

He stirred tensions with Iran by questioning the nuclear deal: again talking nothing real

muslim ban : canceled

Keep going coz right now im still waiting to know what he did except tweets.
I'll help u :
Secret plan to end Isis in 30 days : canceled
Hillary's prosecution: canceled
Wall build on his first day of presidency: delayed if not canceled

Anyway it's off topic, its always good to put delusional guys in front of their illusions.


I have to admit u are right about French government power.
But since u can't rule France with a referendum made law every week.
She will need to have majority in congress.
I already believe she won't be elected but if so, no way fn congessman get a majority.
So there is 0 law she will be able to put at vote.
If she force a law (49.3) her government will be empeached the next day.
So she will do nothing (except stealing money for her family as she did already), even less than Trump.
2017-02-21 16:21:40
So you think that everything can be done in a month lol? The wall is being planned right now and obamacare is getting repealed. The law is in Trump's side in the muslim ban so if everything goes according to the law of the United States, the immigration ban will come back. Illegals are already getting deported and USA is no longer a part of the TPP.

Post edited 2017-02-21 16:47:03
2017-02-21 16:46:01
I don't think everything can be done in one month especially in politic.
But when ppl say "he did more in one month blabla" they are obviously not looking facts.

If u take Obamacare repeal as an achievement u have to explain one thing: a guy does a thing, another undoes it.
So for u, this another did more ? As far as I know building is harder and longer than demolishing (if u don't understand me : how many time and effort to build WTC vs how many time and effort to bring it down?)

The law is in Trump's side that much that he is giving up his fight on muslim's ban suspension. Or u are false or he is a whiteflagger. I guess he is not French in that way, is he? So law must be against him.

The wall is being planned okay. Except he said it will be started on his first day of presidency. It's not.
After the planning, it will need to fund it. If it need to be paid by Mexicans then it will not start before years. If american's pay for it, well it's another lie from him.

As I said earlier fair enough for TPP (note that EU is glad for that, we expect TAFTA to be canceled for good as well plus TPP leftovers can do more business with us plus China is glad for that since they weren't part of it).

There is one thing he is doing better: inflating whitehouse cost.
Obama cost 100 millions over 8 years in security, salary and such). Trump and his family are already at 10 millions in a month.
But it's not my money, so not my problem.

Trump is just another polician, less experienced tho.
Instead of trying to help wallstreet(Reagan, Clinton), his friend(Bush, Bush Jr) he tries to help himself and his family.

We will see how goes his electors in 4 years. I really hope I'm wrong, coz I care for u american guys.
2017-02-21 17:09:36
You are the one talking about "doing more" but for Trump and Obama. Here, it's who can do more between Trump and MLP. Again, you are off topic.
2017-02-21 17:17:36
"#140 sk0ffin
bro, trump has done more in 1 month than obama did in 8 years."

Am I?

About Le Pen I answered in #147.
2017-02-21 17:25:14
Mec il est là depuis un mois et tente déjà des truks ahurissants... La diplomatie mise en danger c'est important, même si rien de concret n'arrive. Quand Trump a été élu la bourse a chuté parce qu'il avait dit qu'il aurait une politique protectionniste. Pareil pour le Brexit, la livre a perdu de la valeur alors qu'ils sont encore aujourd'hui dans l'UE... Pour ce qui est de l'Iran par exemple, ils ont testé des missiles comme manifestation de leur défiance des USA de Trump.

Je sais que pour un gars comme toi c'est important d'avoir le dernier mot, aussi non pertinent soit-il, sur internet comme le montre c'que j'ai mis entre guillemets. Mais si Valls et Hollande ont tenu tête aux manifestants avoir utilisé le 49:9, c'est pas MLP qui va courbé l'échine.

"Anyway it's off topic, its always good to put delusional guys in front of their illusions." (au passage c'est très condescendant mais bon bref)

Une loi ou un décret n'est pas toujours immédiat, l'Obamacare ça va disparaitre et l'avortement il y aura du changement. C'est une certitude.

report moi si tu veux pour ma réponse en français, je m'en fous un peu
2017-02-21 17:15:14
About 49.3.
Problem is not public demonstration, who cares about it?
It's defiance vote in assembly. Hollande had majority to avoid it (and yet it was close), le Pen will not have it.


I don't get were u want to go with stock market after trump or brexit.
2017-02-21 17:32:47
When you write about things not being real or decisions not being taken "for real". What I'm telling you is that it does not need to be "real" to have real effects. That's the whole point of diplomacy.
2017-02-21 17:38:57
Okay, understood.
Still, I'm not sure Mexican president trip cancel is an huge achievement.
If lepen got elected and netanyaou or habbas cancel a trip to France, well, who cares?
2017-02-21 17:46:00
Trade.
2017-02-21 17:46:53
bro, trump has done more in 1 month than obama did in 8 years. he's building the wall, he got us out of the TPP, he is giving the green-light on human trafficking arrests, deporting illegals, suspending travel from dangerous countries, etc. he's doing everything he said he would.
2017-02-21 15:37:56
TPP suspended fair enough, for the rest I replyed just above #147.
He is far from doing everything he said, ask Hillary lawyers, they lost their job coz they are useless.
2017-02-21 16:30:11
Dude as informed as you might be, you are the one being delusional and as I wrote in another answer : all you care about is win a useless argument. You do that in most threads you're answering to.
2017-02-21 17:22:09
My first statement was she will do nothing if she get elected, like trump.
Ppl replying on trump, can't I answer them?

About Le Pen I explained to u how the French constitution worked. Since no one disagreed on that why should I continue to argue?
2017-02-21 17:35:23
Trump does things and we've seen only few of what he plans.
Le Pen will do things aswel.

All there is to say...
2017-02-21 17:41:03
Yeah to get back on the thread topic: how will she do things?

Her only way is referendum to change constitution. She might do it few times but after that?
She will not be able to win one assembly vote.

So as I said at first: she will do nothing. I'm not saying its a good or a bad thing, just she will change nothing. Coz our republic is build that way.
2017-02-21 17:50:32
Politicians are all the same, she will do whatever the powerfull will tell her to do, so its all the same, left or right
2017-02-21 14:55:52
GandalfThePimp is an anarchist? ..Well that's nothing new.
2017-02-21 16:49:12
I can't say I'm fully anarchist, but ye I like the idea
2017-02-21 17:58:16
+1
2017-02-21 19:22:00
also earth is flat
2017-02-21 22:16:35
ofc she will win shes choosen by the jewish elite her and donald trump will start the final war vs muslims wich will pretty much destroy the muslims

Post edited 2017-02-21 15:35:13
2017-02-21 15:33:09
Yes she will win
2017-02-21 15:37:28
That woman is so fucking dum
2017-02-21 15:39:35
why
2017-02-21 15:43:41
Don't listen to this Ayrr guy. He's a retarded liberal just like more0n and Norsk.
2017-02-21 16:48:10
You fucking yankees are so retarded that call liberals people from center-left of left parties when true liberals (Adam Smith) are fucking retarded extreme-right wind ones. That's how braindead y'all are, you don't even know the proper concepts.
2017-02-21 22:41:59
Norsk and more0n are both known leftists though.
2017-02-21 22:46:03
all women are dumb how can u choose one
2017-02-21 17:31:54
She won't win.
2 possibilities, Macron beats Fillon and he goes to the 2nd Turn. Then France is clearly fucked cause Macron is dumb, has no programm whatsoever and not experienced at all.
Fillon goes to 2nd turn then he clearly ez win over lepen cause most of french don't like her. In 2002 her father went to 2nd turn, he got beaten by chirac with 83%...
2017-02-21 18:16:22
2 turns in france ? that's actually better than 1
2017-02-21 19:04:30
yep, cant screw up like many countries.
actually can if candidate get's over 50 1st turn
2017-02-21 23:37:19
Nah. Frenchies are cucks and faggots. She won't win.
2017-02-21 19:07:02
Hopefully, we need a world war 3 anyway. lets fuck up everything.
2017-02-21 19:11:01
her niece :
http://lottovolante.plnet.forumcommunity.net/?t=57..

her mother :
http://www.apar.tv/photographie/madame-le-pen-dans..

finish to talk, please sextape
2017-02-21 23:10:53
it's not gonna happen with Marion Le Pen, she's really religious
2017-02-21 23:14:18
squint eyes & squirt inspiration , good title tape !
2017-02-21 23:24:29
Would be greatest disaster since ever.

We need a strong EU now and in the future. Not possible with a french president called Le Pen.
2017-02-21 23:36:03
I've lived in France for years. I can assure you she won't win. French people think different.
2017-02-21 23:36:30
french people in big city yes, but in the contry side its different
2017-02-21 23:49:04
le pen oui <3
2017-02-21 23:51:36
Lets make USSR great again!1 more soviet republic(US 1st)
2017-02-21 23:59:00
Jacques Chirac used Le Pen Padre as opponant in last turn of presidential to became fr president, he is the bad nazi and im good candidate, sure to win. Global elite politician strategic level. Chirac as minister in 70-80°s was very friend with Sadam about nuclear, legendary time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avmGhWs6y2M

Marion is too hot and her family have russian financial help.
Politic is just carism and money. She will finish to win in 20xx.

So please ! sextape black mail for her mofo. To became president, she will must suck some dictator dicks (like her whore aunt). Please BBC in her white ass and blond face sick nazi bitch.

2017-02-22 00:29:15
russian financial help because french banks dont want to lend her money, she's not a good think for that people you know, use your brain please
fun fact is, if you make more than 5% at the election, the governement refund you'r campaign up to a certain limit and obviously she's gonna make more than 5%
so there is absolutely no risk for french banks in terms of refund by Marine Le Pen, banks are just playing with our democratie, thats all

2017-02-22 00:47:59
Hope Le Pen loses, I want to see France get rekt harder.
2017-02-22 00:36:14
fuck she makes me horny that mature mmmm
2017-02-22 00:40:24
down with the cucks!!!
2017-02-22 00:42:52

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