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So Eden Hazard made it official today on his twitter account. He's gonna sign for the Champions League winners Chelsea. He was voted the best player in the French league two years in a row.
What do you guys think about Hazard as a player?
Will he be a good addition?
What do you guys think about Hazard as a player?
Will he be a good addition?
yes! he was the real addiction I wanted for Chelsea! finally the Blues will have a world class player to play with Mata and Torres.
2012-05-28 22:03:09
I think Marko Marin is a great addition too. Hope they can sign Hulk and Falcao as well :DDD
2012-05-28 22:04:14
they wont.. they have to put Torres on, since Drogba left.. i hope they buy Hulk, im from Porto and i'd love to see him playing for chelsea, we are holding him back here in Portugal tbh
2012-05-28 22:47:57
ofc, but torres need some backup like falcao.
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2012-05-29 01:26:37
lol more like torres would be falcao backup :D nah, chelsea wont buy Falcao, they must give Torres a shot
2012-05-29 01:29:20
drogba / torres
now they need
falcao / torres
now they need
falcao / torres
2012-05-29 01:30:40
nahh, wont happen.. :D
2012-05-29 01:35:01
maybe. by the way, i read in some website that man.united want james rodriguez :O
2012-05-29 01:37:41
yeah, not just man utd, Inter Milan aswell.. but the Lisbon fanboy press is saying that man utd are about to sign Nico Gaitán, so i doubt they'll go for James Rodriguez this year, maybe next year :D that kid is sick by the way
2012-05-29 01:47:57
world class falcao*
2012-05-30 09:04:31
They will most likely give Torres the chance but I would still like to see Falcao in Chelsea :)
2012-05-29 12:33:39
yeah, Hulk plays really good. But since sometime ago he really pisses me off on field doesn't do absolutely anything in some matches. Guess he already achieved what he wanted with Porto.
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Post edited 2012-05-29 13:55:48
2012-05-29 13:55:17
Haha. Falcao no way! He needs to stay in Atletico at least for couple of seasons. They need to be top4 this season to qualifie for the CL finally. They really deserve it. I really love the new Atletico with Falcao. He is a scoring machine.
Now Hulk on the other hand plays for Porto and you don't have so much rivalry/competion in Portugal. He should definitely join Chelsea and I mean Hazard, Torres, Mata and Hulk? That would be sick. Even if Chelsea don't sign Hulk, they still made a good choice by bringing in Hazard. Just my opinion though. :D
Ah, and yeah. They brought in Marin, that's a good signing too. They'll definitely will be top3 next season.
-KTBFFH! <3
Post edited 2012-05-28 22:53:08
Now Hulk on the other hand plays for Porto and you don't have so much rivalry/competion in Portugal. He should definitely join Chelsea and I mean Hazard, Torres, Mata and Hulk? That would be sick. Even if Chelsea don't sign Hulk, they still made a good choice by bringing in Hazard. Just my opinion though. :D
Ah, and yeah. They brought in Marin, that's a good signing too. They'll definitely will be top3 next season.
-KTBFFH! <3
Post edited 2012-05-28 22:53:08
2012-05-28 22:51:50
last year, Portugal had 3 teams in the semi-finals of the Europa league, this year, we had the other one.. better than most "TOP" teams around europe if u ask me..
2012-05-28 23:07:34
"and you don't have so much rivalry/competion in Portugal"
You never watched the portuguese championship right?
You never watched the portuguese championship right?
2012-05-29 01:02:38
Are you ignorant too? Or did I offend your league? :D:D
And you didn't get my point at alllllllllllllllllll.
What I meant by this comment: Now Hulk on the other hand plays for Porto and you don't have so much rivalry/competion in Portugal.
And I'll try to make it short.
Even if Hulk leaves Porto, Porto will be fine without him. They won't drop to top5 place for example. And Hulks potencial is so much bigger than the Portuguese league. He is much better than his teammates and the whole league. That's why he needs to move to a bigger club to grow even more. By staying in Porto, he won't grow.
Out of 10 championships Porto would win about 8-9 out of 10. What I meant about rivarly/competion comment it is about Hulk, not about the league itself. I mean, no one can really get to his level. Sure, there are Cardozo, Lima etc and still even if Hulk didn't score as many goals as Cardozo and Lima I still think he is much better than them.
And when teams play against Porto and Hulk particularly, they always have big problems against him. Having said all that, Hulk doesn't have competion in Portugal, he won't grow as a player playing in a league, that is below his level. And that's what I meant about the competion/rivarly comment, he doesn't have any.
And to be honest with you. There isn't so much competion in the Portuguese league either. Sure, there are 4 particular teams, but like I said 8-9 times out of 10, Porto would win the league. There is rivalry, always has been, but every country has those rivalry matches. And I definitely do watch the portuguese league, but like I said, it isn't so interesting to watch when Porto, Sporting, Braga or Benfica are playing against teams like Gil Vicente or Maritimo. 98% it will always end as expected. But when Sporting are playing Benfica for example, that's always entertaining.
That's about it what I wanted to add about the competion comment. If you don't agree on something, you can surely reply and I'll prove you wrong. :D
And you didn't get my point at alllllllllllllllllll.
What I meant by this comment: Now Hulk on the other hand plays for Porto and you don't have so much rivalry/competion in Portugal.
And I'll try to make it short.
Even if Hulk leaves Porto, Porto will be fine without him. They won't drop to top5 place for example. And Hulks potencial is so much bigger than the Portuguese league. He is much better than his teammates and the whole league. That's why he needs to move to a bigger club to grow even more. By staying in Porto, he won't grow.
Out of 10 championships Porto would win about 8-9 out of 10. What I meant about rivarly/competion comment it is about Hulk, not about the league itself. I mean, no one can really get to his level. Sure, there are Cardozo, Lima etc and still even if Hulk didn't score as many goals as Cardozo and Lima I still think he is much better than them.
And when teams play against Porto and Hulk particularly, they always have big problems against him. Having said all that, Hulk doesn't have competion in Portugal, he won't grow as a player playing in a league, that is below his level. And that's what I meant about the competion/rivarly comment, he doesn't have any.
And to be honest with you. There isn't so much competion in the Portuguese league either. Sure, there are 4 particular teams, but like I said 8-9 times out of 10, Porto would win the league. There is rivalry, always has been, but every country has those rivalry matches. And I definitely do watch the portuguese league, but like I said, it isn't so interesting to watch when Porto, Sporting, Braga or Benfica are playing against teams like Gil Vicente or Maritimo. 98% it will always end as expected. But when Sporting are playing Benfica for example, that's always entertaining.
That's about it what I wanted to add about the competion comment. If you don't agree on something, you can surely reply and I'll prove you wrong. :D
2012-05-29 01:38:00
"8-9 times out of 10, Porto would win the league"
It's not Porco that wins, it's their president. ;)
It's not Porco that wins, it's their president. ;)
2012-05-29 19:58:05
I got what you wanted to say but still i disagree. Hulk is a good player, no one can deny that but if you really think that he has no competition then you never watched our league. Most hulk's goals this season were penalty goals.. Look at players like gaitan, aimar, witsel, rodrigo, james rodriguez, moutinho.. Imo those players are in the same level as hulk. Look at what he did this season.. He scored some important goals (4 or 5) but in many situations he just loses the ball or doesnt do anything with it.
About the championships. Well, this clearly shows you do not know our league. Porto are a good team, no doubt, still, there is too much bullcrap and corruption in this league and most of it is because of Porto.. If you could understand portuguese, i would tell you to go search some videos of Porto's president buying referees.. :)
Also, i think you are a bit wrong in those 98%.. Sure most "big" teams win their matches but, in some times smaller teams suffer for being too small, if you understand what i mean.. benfica, porto and sporting often get advantages agaisnt them (and porto is the one who is more.. thats why they win so many championships in recent years.. i mean, everyone knows about guarda abel and the prostitutes Pinto da costa (Porto president) would pay to pay the referees.. It is known by everyone). This situation, benefits Porto and Hulk himself because they get penalties and shitty decisions that make smaller teams lose.
I also agree with you that Hulk needs to move. He is a very good player indeed, but if you think there isnt any competition its because you didnt watch recent seasons.. Why do you think that RM, MU, and such clubs are after players like javi garcia, witsel, gaitan, garay, etc, etc? Because they are also good players. Hulk just gets benefits for being in the club he is. Yes, he is a good player, but he is overrated and referees help him.
And btw, stop it things like "Are you ignorant too?" or "you can surely reply and I'll prove you wrong. :D" . Lets just have a nice conversation ;)
About the championships. Well, this clearly shows you do not know our league. Porto are a good team, no doubt, still, there is too much bullcrap and corruption in this league and most of it is because of Porto.. If you could understand portuguese, i would tell you to go search some videos of Porto's president buying referees.. :)
Also, i think you are a bit wrong in those 98%.. Sure most "big" teams win their matches but, in some times smaller teams suffer for being too small, if you understand what i mean.. benfica, porto and sporting often get advantages agaisnt them (and porto is the one who is more.. thats why they win so many championships in recent years.. i mean, everyone knows about guarda abel and the prostitutes Pinto da costa (Porto president) would pay to pay the referees.. It is known by everyone). This situation, benefits Porto and Hulk himself because they get penalties and shitty decisions that make smaller teams lose.
I also agree with you that Hulk needs to move. He is a very good player indeed, but if you think there isnt any competition its because you didnt watch recent seasons.. Why do you think that RM, MU, and such clubs are after players like javi garcia, witsel, gaitan, garay, etc, etc? Because they are also good players. Hulk just gets benefits for being in the club he is. Yes, he is a good player, but he is overrated and referees help him.
And btw, stop it things like "Are you ignorant too?" or "you can surely reply and I'll prove you wrong. :D" . Lets just have a nice conversation ;)
2012-05-29 21:17:16
Haha. I love you :D. I say that with love mate, with no hate at all. It's really nice to see, that people don't attack other people, if someone writes like I did. Like you coulda write some offensive stuff to me, but you didn't and I respect that :)
On the matter, it's really interesting about that corruption scandal so to speak. I actually noticed, that Hulk scores penalties, but still I thought he did a great job even with those penalties. I think it was the last match in Portugal or one of the last matches when Porto won 2:0 and both were penalties and Hulk scored both goals.
I mean every country has corruption you know, look at Italy :D. Talking about Hulk, Porto isn't a good team in CL, they can win Europa League and win the league in Portugal, but when it comes to CL, they usually don't go far and that's because the players aren't good enough. I mean I personally think Hulk is better than his teammates and the Portuguese league is behind his level. The thing is, if he would play for a better team like Chelsea, he would be a better player, because his teammates would be a lot better and he wouldn't lose the ball etc.
Players like Lampard, Mata etc all of them could give him great passes, so he could score goals etc and like I said I really think that he is better than his teammates and the whole league and if he will join Chelsea, he will become a better player. If he will stay, he won't grow as a player.
I mean, the big teams in every country Spain, Italy, Germany, England, they almost always have an advantage when they play against the little teams. Like you said, the referees usually give penalties to teams like Real Madrid, Barca, Chelsea, Man utd, Man city etc etc, is that a coincidence? I don't know. But they have an advantage, because they just have better players and that's how it goes in Portugal too.
But it can't be that just because of penalties or referees Porto almost always wins the title. They always have a great squad and a lot of talents go to Porto and they evolve from there.
On a personal note, my favourite team from Portugal is Sporting and Boavista. I mean Boavista is long gone, they pretty much died, but I always loved Sporting. They have an amazing stadium, their colors of the shirts are awesome green/white and I don't know, I just always loved them, but as you can see, they almost always finish top4/5 and they don't get the CL spot.
Ricky van Wolf. is such a great player in Sporting. I'm 100% sure, he will join a big club soon in like 1-2 seasons. Because the thing is, he maybe isn't better than Hulk, but he almost alone carried Sporting this season. I really hope they get the 1st place next season, I'm sure that will be more than hard, but you never know. Few years back Braga weren't a good side, but now they are and they finish top5. Maybe that can happen to some other team too in Portugal.
Post edited 2012-05-29 22:06:49
On the matter, it's really interesting about that corruption scandal so to speak. I actually noticed, that Hulk scores penalties, but still I thought he did a great job even with those penalties. I think it was the last match in Portugal or one of the last matches when Porto won 2:0 and both were penalties and Hulk scored both goals.
I mean every country has corruption you know, look at Italy :D. Talking about Hulk, Porto isn't a good team in CL, they can win Europa League and win the league in Portugal, but when it comes to CL, they usually don't go far and that's because the players aren't good enough. I mean I personally think Hulk is better than his teammates and the Portuguese league is behind his level. The thing is, if he would play for a better team like Chelsea, he would be a better player, because his teammates would be a lot better and he wouldn't lose the ball etc.
Players like Lampard, Mata etc all of them could give him great passes, so he could score goals etc and like I said I really think that he is better than his teammates and the whole league and if he will join Chelsea, he will become a better player. If he will stay, he won't grow as a player.
I mean, the big teams in every country Spain, Italy, Germany, England, they almost always have an advantage when they play against the little teams. Like you said, the referees usually give penalties to teams like Real Madrid, Barca, Chelsea, Man utd, Man city etc etc, is that a coincidence? I don't know. But they have an advantage, because they just have better players and that's how it goes in Portugal too.
But it can't be that just because of penalties or referees Porto almost always wins the title. They always have a great squad and a lot of talents go to Porto and they evolve from there.
On a personal note, my favourite team from Portugal is Sporting and Boavista. I mean Boavista is long gone, they pretty much died, but I always loved Sporting. They have an amazing stadium, their colors of the shirts are awesome green/white and I don't know, I just always loved them, but as you can see, they almost always finish top4/5 and they don't get the CL spot.
Ricky van Wolf. is such a great player in Sporting. I'm 100% sure, he will join a big club soon in like 1-2 seasons. Because the thing is, he maybe isn't better than Hulk, but he almost alone carried Sporting this season. I really hope they get the 1st place next season, I'm sure that will be more than hard, but you never know. Few years back Braga weren't a good side, but now they are and they finish top5. Maybe that can happen to some other team too in Portugal.
Post edited 2012-05-29 22:06:49
2012-05-29 22:01:57
Why would I say something offensive? We can have a nice conversation without insulting each other (although it is rare in hltv xD), and i like it much more this way :P
Well, the season where they won the europa league they were really good, i must admit it, they were simply better than anyone in the league and in europa league too. But this season.. man, it was really bad because Benfica was the one who deserved the title (im trying not to be a fanboy, its just my opinion).. We were in the lead with 6 points and when Porto's coach said everything was lost (hes the worst coach ive seen in years, even porto fans are mad at him lol), everything changed and Benfica started to draw and lose because of the referees... When porto came to lisbon, they scored an offside goal who gave them the title pratically.. I dont like to lose, but i can admit when its fair, but it wasnt this season and hulk on this season was not as good as lasts.. maybe because of the coach and the team itself.. I hope he really goes away because he is the one keeping porto winning championships although helped by the refs..
Of course, Porto arent that good in CL because they dont benefit from the referees there :P But yeah, you are right if he joins chelsea it will be very very good for him because porto doesnt have as good players as him and the team is coming down.
Well, yes, of course teams like Sporting, Benfica and Porto, also get beneficts agaisnt smaller teams, still, if you see some things that happen in favour of Porto you would understand... They got so many penalties and so crucial for their wins.. they won some games 1-0, penalty from hulk which wasnt penalty at all.. other times, they start to win with a penalty when they cant score.. things like this, that after the season ends you see that this little beneficts actualy give them titles.. And yes, of course they have good players like james, moutinho, lucho gonzalez, helton.. still, its like i said dude.. when they cant score, the referee invents a penalty and gives them the win :/
Yeah, i also liked boavista, shame what happened to them.. About Sporting, although they are rivals of benfica, i respect their team because they often get impaired (got this word from translator xD) and get some bad results because of it.. But sometimes its a little annoying because they "cry" too much xD
Well, i think that it wasnt ricky who carried the team but their new coach Sá pinto.. the guy really knows to to cheer up a team and since he joined they have been doing really good, the bad thing is they cant be consistent the whole season and that is what makes them lose..
Well, the season where they won the europa league they were really good, i must admit it, they were simply better than anyone in the league and in europa league too. But this season.. man, it was really bad because Benfica was the one who deserved the title (im trying not to be a fanboy, its just my opinion).. We were in the lead with 6 points and when Porto's coach said everything was lost (hes the worst coach ive seen in years, even porto fans are mad at him lol), everything changed and Benfica started to draw and lose because of the referees... When porto came to lisbon, they scored an offside goal who gave them the title pratically.. I dont like to lose, but i can admit when its fair, but it wasnt this season and hulk on this season was not as good as lasts.. maybe because of the coach and the team itself.. I hope he really goes away because he is the one keeping porto winning championships although helped by the refs..
Of course, Porto arent that good in CL because they dont benefit from the referees there :P But yeah, you are right if he joins chelsea it will be very very good for him because porto doesnt have as good players as him and the team is coming down.
Well, yes, of course teams like Sporting, Benfica and Porto, also get beneficts agaisnt smaller teams, still, if you see some things that happen in favour of Porto you would understand... They got so many penalties and so crucial for their wins.. they won some games 1-0, penalty from hulk which wasnt penalty at all.. other times, they start to win with a penalty when they cant score.. things like this, that after the season ends you see that this little beneficts actualy give them titles.. And yes, of course they have good players like james, moutinho, lucho gonzalez, helton.. still, its like i said dude.. when they cant score, the referee invents a penalty and gives them the win :/
Yeah, i also liked boavista, shame what happened to them.. About Sporting, although they are rivals of benfica, i respect their team because they often get impaired (got this word from translator xD) and get some bad results because of it.. But sometimes its a little annoying because they "cry" too much xD
Well, i think that it wasnt ricky who carried the team but their new coach Sá pinto.. the guy really knows to to cheer up a team and since he joined they have been doing really good, the bad thing is they cant be consistent the whole season and that is what makes them lose..
2012-05-30 17:36:01
Like I said in the other post which got deleted :(, there are a lot factors to win matches and titles. Coach is one of them, a really important one, but if Ricki wouldn't score as many goals as he did, I doubt Sporting would be even top4 this season.
Still, I don't really believe that Porto won the title, because of the referee's :D. There are a lot of matches and always someone helped them when they couldn't win by themselves? Maybe, I don't know. Why then the organization doesn't do something about it, if there is proof that he bought referees? I guess, there isn't proof, that's why nobody can't do anything? :D
Still, I don't really believe that Porto won the title, because of the referee's :D. There are a lot of matches and always someone helped them when they couldn't win by themselves? Maybe, I don't know. Why then the organization doesn't do something about it, if there is proof that he bought referees? I guess, there isn't proof, that's why nobody can't do anything? :D
2012-05-30 21:50:23
True, they wouldnt :P
Well, there isnt anything oficial this year, although they won it with many controversial decision on their favour.. For example, this porto was considered the worst of the last 10 years and the team is nearly the same that won liga europa.. the thing is, they dont play like they used to anymore and they won it because of bad decisions...
About the proofs. There is an actual proof. Pinto da Costa got arrested because of this scandall but he was released because portuguese system sucks.. On youtube there are several tapes of him choosing the referees and stuff like that, also him talking to some of them, etc, etc.. Why they dont do anything? Because they cant, because our justice system is complete SHIT. This proof wasnt used because the tapes were recorded "illegaly" and they dont accept it. Even if a say something like: "yes, i killed him" (murder example) it cant be accepted... Its just shit and no one does anything, although it is currently the biggest corruption process in portugal, it wont take anywhere although everyone knows lol
Well, there isnt anything oficial this year, although they won it with many controversial decision on their favour.. For example, this porto was considered the worst of the last 10 years and the team is nearly the same that won liga europa.. the thing is, they dont play like they used to anymore and they won it because of bad decisions...
About the proofs. There is an actual proof. Pinto da Costa got arrested because of this scandall but he was released because portuguese system sucks.. On youtube there are several tapes of him choosing the referees and stuff like that, also him talking to some of them, etc, etc.. Why they dont do anything? Because they cant, because our justice system is complete SHIT. This proof wasnt used because the tapes were recorded "illegaly" and they dont accept it. Even if a say something like: "yes, i killed him" (murder example) it cant be accepted... Its just shit and no one does anything, although it is currently the biggest corruption process in portugal, it wont take anywhere although everyone knows lol
2012-05-30 21:59:18
LOL. Choosing referees. Hahahahah :D
Yeah, that sucks. :/
Yeah, that sucks. :/
2012-05-30 22:09:02
Im telling you the truth, you dont believe me? xD
2012-05-30 22:45:33
Well, Atletico will play Champions League next season and I think that if Ateltico don't qualify for the Champions League next season Falcao might consider leaving, even though I would like to see him in both Atletico and Chelsea. :-) IMO Falcao is the best SCORING player in the world. Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi aren't really the typical scoring players. As we all know Hulk can play centerforward too because he did that some years in Porto and then he moved to the right. But yeah, I agree with you, Hazard and Marin are really what Chelsea needs, some speed and technique :-)
2012-05-29 12:39:14
Yeah, Falcao definitely knows how to score goals and that's whats so good about him. I just really think that he needs to stay in Atletico for couple of seasons, just to prove himself more. Now that he is settled in the club etc, he can be even better. Like I said, I really hope they will be top4 this season, they really deserve to play in CL. They already won 2 the Europa League cup. And Falcao won it in Porto too. Go go Falcao! :D
2012-05-29 17:39:23
"prove himself more" lol, he was the best scorer in Europa League twice in a row.
Falcao staying in Atletico is definitely good for Atletico but Falcao deserves so much better.
Falcao staying in Atletico is definitely good for Atletico but Falcao deserves so much better.
2012-05-29 20:38:40
I don't have the willpower to reply to you and you don't understand the meaning of "prove himself more".
2012-05-29 20:43:57
Your definition of "prove himself more" means that he has to prove that he can stay on the same level he is now consistantly for more years :-) I think? :D
2012-05-29 22:13:39
Well, kinda. I mean he just got to Atletico. He outgrew Porto's level by far. He definitely had no competion in Porto. He needed a new challenge and he definitely did a good job by joining Atletico and not a team like Chelsea or some superstar team. I'll explain further on.
Since Atletico isn't the best team in Spain, he can take them there. In his 1st season he did an amazing job obviously, but didn't take Atletico to top4 to qualifie for CL. You know, he scored goals against a lot of mid-level teams in Spain, but when it came to Barcelona or Real, Altetico lost 4 times. Twice 1:4 against Real and 0:5/1:2 to Barca and I mean it doesn't really matter if Falcao scored against them, since they lost with a high score.
He needs to prove, that he can challenge high level teams and score a lot of goals against them, so they can win, if you don't win, it doesn't almost really matter, if you score or not. In Porto he scored a lot of goals against mid-level teams and like I said, he outgrew that level. In Europa League he scored goals against normal teams, but those teams weren't CL material. Some of them were, I don't remember at the moment who Atletico and Porto played in the Europa league, but I'm sure it wasn't CL material like Milan, Inter, Barca, Real, Chelsea and so on.
So, Atletico, I'm pretty sure they are aiming for top4 next season. And Falcao is a player who is a leader. He can't be nr2 in the team. If he would join Chelsea or some other top team from Europe, he wouldn't be so good. I'm sure he would score goals etc, but he wouldn't be that good, as he was in Porto and Atletico. There are other leaders in those teams, but Atletico don't have leaders in their team so to speak and Falcao took that role and he succeeded.
In this upcoming season, everything starts from 0. He knows the club now, how it operates etc and I'm sure he will be top5 goal scorer with Messi, Ronaldo. He was top5 this season too I think? I'm not sure, but I think he was. He still has to prove, that he can take Atletico to CL and even win matches there and I'm sure he will do that. He can't leave now, not yet.
Since Atletico isn't the best team in Spain, he can take them there. In his 1st season he did an amazing job obviously, but didn't take Atletico to top4 to qualifie for CL. You know, he scored goals against a lot of mid-level teams in Spain, but when it came to Barcelona or Real, Altetico lost 4 times. Twice 1:4 against Real and 0:5/1:2 to Barca and I mean it doesn't really matter if Falcao scored against them, since they lost with a high score.
He needs to prove, that he can challenge high level teams and score a lot of goals against them, so they can win, if you don't win, it doesn't almost really matter, if you score or not. In Porto he scored a lot of goals against mid-level teams and like I said, he outgrew that level. In Europa League he scored goals against normal teams, but those teams weren't CL material. Some of them were, I don't remember at the moment who Atletico and Porto played in the Europa league, but I'm sure it wasn't CL material like Milan, Inter, Barca, Real, Chelsea and so on.
So, Atletico, I'm pretty sure they are aiming for top4 next season. And Falcao is a player who is a leader. He can't be nr2 in the team. If he would join Chelsea or some other top team from Europe, he wouldn't be so good. I'm sure he would score goals etc, but he wouldn't be that good, as he was in Porto and Atletico. There are other leaders in those teams, but Atletico don't have leaders in their team so to speak and Falcao took that role and he succeeded.
In this upcoming season, everything starts from 0. He knows the club now, how it operates etc and I'm sure he will be top5 goal scorer with Messi, Ronaldo. He was top5 this season too I think? I'm not sure, but I think he was. He still has to prove, that he can take Atletico to CL and even win matches there and I'm sure he will do that. He can't leave now, not yet.
2012-05-29 23:51:10
I may be wrong but I still gotta ask, if you win the Europa League don't you then get a direct spot to the upcoming Champions League tournament?
2012-05-30 08:57:53
There is no need to waste such a huge amount of money to sign Falcao. Torres will be Chelsea main striker in the next season and there are still hungry strikers like Daniel and Lukaku who want to be in the first squad mate.
2012-05-28 23:02:40
Sturidge is not a striker
2012-05-28 23:06:15
I meant that Sturridge can play on both postions, Winger and Striker. He mainly played as a winger because he couldn't compete with Drogba and Torres.
After Drogba leaved, he said to press that he doesn't enjoy himself playing as a winger, and actually he can compete with Torres in the next season as a main striker.
After Drogba leaved, he said to press that he doesn't enjoy himself playing as a winger, and actually he can compete with Torres in the next season as a main striker.
2012-05-28 23:19:57
imo he doesnt have what it takes to be a striker, much less in the EPL. he did good playing as a winger, looks like Theo Walcott, thin and fast. he wont go very far if he wants to be a striker..
2012-05-28 23:50:10
sturidge is a striker but the stupid boas don't let him to play as ST ccc hi put him in game like : lw/ss/rw/ !
2012-05-29 16:54:15
I would probably be happy if they could sign Hulk too and I agree, they could give Torres the chance and they will but still I would love to see Falcao in the blue shirt :-) They will probably send Lukaku somewhere else on a loan and I hope they will loan him to a club in England so he can get used to the football in England.
2012-05-29 12:42:35
I want only hulk 4 blues !
i think will be a great season and i hope that chelsea will take premier league trophy
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i think will be a great season and i hope that chelsea will take premier league trophy
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2012-05-28 22:06:08
its not confirmed yet ?
2012-05-28 22:11:21
it's confirmed by Hazard, not by the club yet.
2012-05-28 22:16:16
oh ..
2012-05-28 22:17:03
Hulk is too good for chelsea.
2012-05-28 22:14:12
So is Messi but he didn't do a shit against them.
2012-05-28 22:25:59
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1050498/a..
2012-05-28 22:41:15
lol cry baby cry
2012-05-28 22:48:34
First of all I'm not crying I'm just statin a fact. 2nd don't even bother on replying to me again, cause you're one of those braindead Portuguese that don't know nothing at all and elaborating any subject with you it's a pure waste of time. bye.
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2012-05-29 00:44:16
lol pathetic! totally pathetic..
2012-05-29 01:55:21
actually he's right, you do comment on every topic or thread, means you probably don't know shit about 75% of the conversations you get in and even when you do, you look so much like a troll
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2012-05-29 12:34:40
another pathetic comment, thank you..
2012-05-29 17:04:32
BURN BABY BURN!
2012-05-28 23:20:04
Beautiful football to watch doesn't always have to be the best football :-)
2012-05-29 12:43:45
+1
2012-05-29 18:53:46
True indeed!
2012-05-29 22:24:04
http://nte.foliohattu.com/pic/barca4333.jpg
2012-05-29 19:46:53
Well, I wonder what you'll do against one of the best teams in the world. ?????
2012-05-29 19:59:55
Pedro didnt play vs Chelsea.
2012-05-30 18:22:31
good player, hope he gets a chance in Chelsea..
hope he will show his skills in the friendly match belgium vs england
hope he will show his skills in the friendly match belgium vs england
2012-05-28 22:20:15
Hulk-Mata-Hazard
Torres
HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Torres
HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2012-05-28 22:30:10
torres who? lukaku maybe :D
2012-05-28 23:27:18
HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO ++++
Chelsea will be first club that will defend trophy :D It would be big big surprise and would be awesome too :D or maybe its time for City?
Chelsea will be first club that will defend trophy :D It would be big big surprise and would be awesome too :D or maybe its time for City?
2012-05-28 23:37:22
FUCK CHELSEAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK HAZARD
glory glory MAN UNITED
glory glory MAN UNITED
2012-05-28 22:36:40
2nd.. umad
2012-05-28 22:57:06
problem bitch?
2012-05-28 23:01:37
no... not really?
2012-05-29 00:01:07
6th or 5th don't remember bottom places. lol umad?
2012-05-29 20:01:20
I'm not city fan. I just dont like ManU. umad?
2012-05-29 20:57:54
Hahaha, u mad as f*ck!
2012-05-29 11:14:19
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/0..
2012-05-29 11:45:23
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/3623/wvpl8i1456..
2012-05-29 13:14:28
http://greginmotion.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04..
2012-05-29 16:45:47
Well, you didn't win anything but you still made history. The best second placed club in a season in the history of the Premier League, you got the most points of all teams that placed second in the history of Premier League, congrats. Feels good to end on 6th place and still win 2 trophies ;P
2012-05-29 12:46:01
there`s no honour,glory or "joy to watch football" in the way chelsea won the champions leauge, face it . but well done to them though
2012-05-29 16:47:52
Sometimes the best football isn't the most pretty one.
2012-05-29 17:13:27
it`s true..but wining absolutely deserved is completely different from wining by defending with 10 players.there`s no glory in that,only the cup and prize money.once again well done for doing that, they won
2012-05-29 17:30:03
No one said other clubs can't do it. Do you really think Chelsea would change their mind about how they played this season and say: "Yeah, we should've played more entertaining and prettier football." I don't think so.
2012-05-29 17:37:01
Chelsea got lucky get over it kid and don't brag about it... You are the most undeserved winners of Champions league that ever existed, got played off the park in the semifinals and in the final, you were nowhere, just parked that big fat bus and hope the lady luck smiles on you.. And this one time it did
2012-05-29 19:35:21
They had a little bit of luck but they weren't entirely lucky. Don't be mad and don't cry just because Barcelona got owned. Chelsea deserved it because they beat the best team in the world before the match with Barcelona, now they are not the best any more. QQ
2012-05-30 10:03:21
Fuck this time :@
Fergie firstly wanted to sing Hazard, and then other clubs and "scouts" wanted him too. I mean, it's not nice when someone else know to see a young talent, and other buy "it" because they have more money :/
That's why City won 11/12 league, and probably why Chelsea will win 12/13 ..
<3 MANCHESTER UNITED
Fergie firstly wanted to sing Hazard, and then other clubs and "scouts" wanted him too. I mean, it's not nice when someone else know to see a young talent, and other buy "it" because they have more money :/
That's why City won 11/12 league, and probably why Chelsea will win 12/13 ..
<3 MANCHESTER UNITED
2012-05-28 22:45:27
oh, cause man utd doesnt buy expensive players! remember one time when Man Utd came to Portugal and in only one day bought Nani and Anderson for like 55 Million Euroes?! yeah, they sure can complain about chelsea and Man city.. thats so pathetic, EPL biggest clubs cannot complain about financial fairness, they all spend tons of money..
2012-05-28 22:50:58
OMG. So then Messi should've played in some other club in Argentina because they spotted him before Barcelona did and it wasn't nice from Barcelona to "steal" him because they didn't spot him first.
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
2012-05-29 12:47:52
You didn't get the point :D
I'm true fan of Manchester United and I'm mad at other clubs cause in United "we" don't spend too much money on new player, instead, we buy some young talents =)
Remember who was Cristano Ronaldo, Beckham, Giggs, Rooney, Scholes, and many others before they came to United .. and I'm mad cause now other teams buying that young talents when they "hear" that United want them :p
<3 MAN UNITED; and I hope they will be better next season :p
I'm true fan of Manchester United and I'm mad at other clubs cause in United "we" don't spend too much money on new player, instead, we buy some young talents =)
Remember who was Cristano Ronaldo, Beckham, Giggs, Rooney, Scholes, and many others before they came to United .. and I'm mad cause now other teams buying that young talents when they "hear" that United want them :p
<3 MAN UNITED; and I hope they will be better next season :p
2012-05-29 21:06:21
wanted him to gunners
2012-05-28 22:46:44
if he wanted to ruin his career..
2012-05-28 22:51:34
lol? He's 20 or 21 I believe, would be much better going to a smaller club with less pression. See what happened with Villas-boas he wanted to go from Porco to Chelsea, he should have stayed one more season in Porco or going to a better league with less pression on him at his club.
2012-05-29 20:03:57
anything but chelsea sigh
2012-05-28 22:49:29
Hazard is one of best young playmaker nowadays so would be great choice for chelsea
2012-05-28 22:51:18
My dreamteam is almost becoming true, I need one more player to full erection.
Torres
Hazard Mata Hulk
Lampard Mikel
Cole Terry Cahill Ivan
Cech
With that team we can defend our Champions League title.
Torres
Hazard Mata Hulk
Lampard Mikel
Cole Terry Cahill Ivan
Cech
With that team we can defend our Champions League title.
2012-05-28 22:58:16
to defend your ch league title, abramovich should buy the best 10 defenders..screw forwards and midfielders, defenders are the players for chelsea xD
2012-05-28 23:02:44
yup, almost perfect but I think Ramires > Lampard/Mikel so I would like to see him instead one of them
2012-05-28 23:06:16
no team has ever defended the "champions league" title , and chelsea won`t be having a different fate
2012-05-28 23:07:29
+1, and it's all about tactic you can't beat barcelona in another way
2012-05-28 23:13:07
There's a first time for everything.
2012-05-29 01:00:03
yes but chelsea? dont think so
2012-05-29 01:16:44
That's what they said before the game vs Barcelona also for Bayern before the game vs Real. Everyone was so certain that the final would be Real vs Barca. Nothing it impossible man and we're talking about football in here in 1999 Man UTD did an amazing comeback vs Bayern. In 2005 Liverpool got back in the game after 3-0 and tied the game and won in penalties. And Chelsea after winning CL have a big budget and they will buy a lot of players.
2012-05-29 01:22:38
if it was all about budget real would have gotten the champions league these years but they haven`t and that for 10 years , chelsea won`t get the 2nd in a row and I`m deadly sure about that, I don`t even know how they took it this year haha (nothing against chelsea I loved them when they eliminated barca)
2012-05-29 01:33:24
Torres Hulk
Hazard
Marin Mata
Essien/Mikel
Cole Terry Cahill Ivanovic
Cech
Hazard
Marin Mata
Essien/Mikel
Cole Terry Cahill Ivanovic
Cech
2012-05-29 09:24:49
no RAMIRES no win :D
2012-05-29 15:46:57
Yup, but Man Utd is CL winner too :D
2012-05-28 23:11:20
if hulk comes and they get a better rightback! then they will look good :=)
2012-05-28 23:38:43
ivanovic is the best rightback...
2012-05-29 16:21:17
i like ivanovich better as central defender together with terry
2012-05-29 21:12:59
its funny, last week, nobody knew who Hulk was, now, he score 2 goals for Brazil and everybody talks about him lol
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2012-05-28 23:51:38
He was the guy who won Europa League last year. Best player of weak Porto
2012-05-29 00:59:05
weak? lol
2012-05-29 01:26:58
not weak, but not as strong as year ago
2012-05-29 01:27:41
but u said weak lol
how could we be stronger if we lost the best striker in the world in the last of transfer window? :) not every season that u have a player like Falcao in ur team
how could we be stronger if we lost the best striker in the world in the last of transfer window? :) not every season that u have a player like Falcao in ur team
2012-05-29 01:52:00
what ? who won the europa league by himself was falcão
2012-05-29 02:56:01
Falcao won the Europa League for Porto...
2012-05-30 12:32:05
Aw come on dude. Everyone that REALLY follows football these days and by that I mean the majority of the best leagues that includes the Portuguese, Russian, French etc. knows that Hulk is a fantastic player of high quality and he could pretty much play for ANY team. He's that good.
2012-05-29 17:16:23
yes i know that, im a FCPorto supporter! i used to have a annual seat and everything.. my point is, since Hulk was playing in Portugal, and we dont have a top championship everyone (and by that i mean most of the morons around here and in Brazil) thought he sucked, nobody really ever gave him any kind of attention. look at mano menezes for example, he's unique, fantastic fantastic player, way better than Robinho and he still wasnt even called the Copa America last year, not even to sit on the bench, and just because Robinho and Pato for example are playing in Top championship and in a Top club, even if they arent doing shit lately, they'll still gonna be called and play ahead of Hulk.. same thing goes to Fernando, our defensive-midfield, u should see that guy playing, amazing amazing player, he's like a wall, he bust his ass, tackles everything that moves and yet Mano doesnt give a chance at the Brazilian national team. if he was playing for inter or milan, he would first choice i bet.. that was point, ofc i know how much Hulk really worths and the reason he's still playing for Porto is because we dont to sell that bad, otherwise he would gone a long time.. its pretty sad that we have to re-build our team every 2 or 3 years..
2012-05-29 17:57:25
the problem is the portguese league has less money than the others and it's like a "jump" league, they make good results internacionnaly but they can't secure their best players, they got to go to other leagues, the portuguese one it's only to give them visibility in Europe.
2012-05-29 20:09:09
just out of curiosity, who are the big players in the french league according to you?i'd like to have a foreign pov
2012-05-31 01:43:40
Well, the real STARS have to be Hazard, who left this season. Then you have: Pastore, Lisandro Lopez, Nene, Debuchy, Lloris, Gameiro, Remy, Ederson, Andre Ayew. Then you have these up and coming players that have proven themselves this season and really sticked out: Belhanda, Giroud, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, Dejan Lovren etc. And of course you have some big names too, some have delivered and some have not: Menez, Maxwell, Alex, Lugano, Motta, Sissokho, Gourcuff, Bastos, Mbia.
2012-05-31 08:43:27
fair enough, missing some uprising talents from smaller clubs, but you got the best of the Ligue 1 there !
2012-05-31 12:51:40
Well, I'm not able to go in to details right now about more upcoming talents etc. because I'm in school. I could when I get home but I think I did pretty OK with the list above. By the way, you have a great upcoming superstar potential in Belhanda, how's it going for him in the national team? :-)
2012-05-31 13:13:50
well Belhanda really had an amazing season with Montpellier, but he was already quite good last year, so i have faith in his future, and Morocco have a really great potential, too bad players like Boussoufa, Carcela, El-Arabi (he was huge with Caen last year before going to Emirates), and even Chamack went for the money instead of the sport challenge being so young
Belhanda played average during the African Cup, but so did all the squad, they really failed ib their game against Gaboon (Aubameyang scored btw, final score 3 2 with a goal in the extra-time for Gaboon after a 3v1 fail counter-attack from the moroccans)...anyway Morocca has areally great coach (Eric Gerets), and i'm just hoping they'll keep working with him even if the results aren't there now, we may succeed in claiming the world cup slot against Ivory Coast (which just switched coaches, taking a fairly novice one), who knows!
Belhanda played average during the African Cup, but so did all the squad, they really failed ib their game against Gaboon (Aubameyang scored btw, final score 3 2 with a goal in the extra-time for Gaboon after a 3v1 fail counter-attack from the moroccans)...anyway Morocca has areally great coach (Eric Gerets), and i'm just hoping they'll keep working with him even if the results aren't there now, we may succeed in claiming the world cup slot against Ivory Coast (which just switched coaches, taking a fairly novice one), who knows!
2012-05-31 13:36:50
Well, I knew from few some years ago that Morocco had some interesting players that could be good. Seems like the best players from Morocco all do well in the French league. And yeah, about good players, I forgot M'Vila, don't know how the hell I could forget him, he's a fantastic player!
2012-05-31 13:44:09
a few you forgot:
Marseille: Azpilicueta (right back, 22yo, but you probably know that), N'Koulou (amazing defender, 21yo)
Sochaux: Martin, Boudebouz, Maiga
Montpellier: Yanga M'biwa
Saint-Etienne: Kurt Zouma (17yo)
Nice: Mounier, Monzon
PSG: Menez (their best player this season imo), Sirigu
Lille: Roux, Mavuba
Bordeaux: Obraniak, Tremoulina
Auxerre: N'Dinga
Nancy: Traore (went to AC Milan)
Ajaccio: Ochoa
Lyon: Bastos, Lloris
and i probably forgot some !
Marseille: Azpilicueta (right back, 22yo, but you probably know that), N'Koulou (amazing defender, 21yo)
Sochaux: Martin, Boudebouz, Maiga
Montpellier: Yanga M'biwa
Saint-Etienne: Kurt Zouma (17yo)
Nice: Mounier, Monzon
PSG: Menez (their best player this season imo), Sirigu
Lille: Roux, Mavuba
Bordeaux: Obraniak, Tremoulina
Auxerre: N'Dinga
Nancy: Traore (went to AC Milan)
Ajaccio: Ochoa
Lyon: Bastos, Lloris
and i probably forgot some !
2012-05-31 13:56:11
Well, I did include Menez, Bastos and Lloris, I didn't include Traore because like you said, he is in Milan now but he's definitely there. Roux is also very good and so is Azpilicueta. Martin as well, some of the other players I don't know, some I do know about.
2012-05-31 14:22:05
Actually he said on twitter that he's gonna play for the CL winner. As far as I know he didn't say a word if he meant this year's winner or not. MU won CL as well.
2012-05-29 00:21:49
i was hoping he would join man united..but come on that`s ridicoulos..he joined chelsea
2012-05-29 00:36:54
It's not actually. Chelsea are in process of rebuilding the team. I know they play was terrible and still they won FA Cup and CL, but hey, you realize they actually can do way better and they did in the past. That's why players like Hazard come here, just to make Chelsea play more entertaining and more efficient.
2012-05-29 00:51:22
ye but he went to london also did u read the twitter text in french?
2012-05-29 00:53:40
What he posted in French is the same in English. Said he's signing CL winners
2012-05-29 01:04:27
what? lol so he might comes to Porto right? we won the ucl in 2004
2012-05-29 01:28:07
Yes, actually. He might even come to Nottingham Forest then :)
2012-05-29 08:07:05
How retarded..
2012-05-29 17:18:29
It's not retarded. He just wrote on twitter that he's going to play for CL winner. With this only one message it's unknown if he meant this year or 2008 winner or any other year winner.
There were no other news about this transfer right when I posted this.
There were no other news about this transfer right when I posted this.
2012-05-29 21:39:33
OK you're right, we are all wrong. ALL football magazines and ALL football websites are retarded and don't know what the hell they are talking about.
Does this seem to be logic for you?
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Does this seem to be logic for you?
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2012-05-29 22:07:17
Notice again. WHEN I POSTED THIS it was like only skysports who informed about this. So basically the only source we had was Hazard post on twitter, and that one doesn't say clearly which club he's joining. Right?
2012-05-29 22:15:58
No it was not only skysports who said that he signed for Chelsea. Daily telegraph said it, goal too and many other football websites. And what he said clearly says that he's joining Chelsea. He said I'm joining the Champions of Europe on French and then he said on English I'm joining the Champions League winners. Everyone knows what he means and who he's signing for, you're just trying to act like a smartass or something. And by the way, if he meant some other club that had won Champions League he would've said ex-champions or ex-champions league winners because when you only say Champions League winners or the Champions of Europe, you know he's talking about the current Champions. Please say that this doesn't have to be Chelsea and that it can also mean Spain who won the European Cup in football or Ateltico Madrid, you'll make me lose hope in mankind.
2012-05-29 22:31:47
You don't read my recent posts again. In the moment when I've written the first message there was pretty no news on any media.
Secondly, when it comes to his post on Twitter. He did such a things before, like saying "Gonna wear blue t-shirt" "Gonna play with number 10(or as no 10 role)" and others. That's why it could be possible that this is gonna be the next mind trick by not saying directly he's gonna play for Chelsea.
When everything seems to be clear now, why the hell you reply a comment which was a supposition at the time it was posted here?
Secondly, when it comes to his post on Twitter. He did such a things before, like saying "Gonna wear blue t-shirt" "Gonna play with number 10(or as no 10 role)" and others. That's why it could be possible that this is gonna be the next mind trick by not saying directly he's gonna play for Chelsea.
When everything seems to be clear now, why the hell you reply a comment which was a supposition at the time it was posted here?
2012-05-29 22:36:24
That's because the journalist wrote the news at that time. They don't write it instantly after he announced it.
That twitter where he said that he would wear the blueshirt was coming from a fake twitter account, just so you know.
I replied to you because you clearly need a reminder that you have a brain in there somewhere, hopefully. Think before you write. You say he didn't clearly say who he was going to, everyone here knew who he was going to and so did all the football websites, it's just you who is trying to act like a smartass saying "We don't really know who he's going to, the CL winners can be any one." Give me a break dude and stop acting like you're dumb if you are acting.
That twitter where he said that he would wear the blueshirt was coming from a fake twitter account, just so you know.
I replied to you because you clearly need a reminder that you have a brain in there somewhere, hopefully. Think before you write. You say he didn't clearly say who he was going to, everyone here knew who he was going to and so did all the football websites, it's just you who is trying to act like a smartass saying "We don't really know who he's going to, the CL winners can be any one." Give me a break dude and stop acting like you're dumb if you are acting.
2012-05-30 09:03:12
That's pointless. You didn't understand any word typed by me. Don't reply it again. You're just trying to be bossy, but the fact is you're fooling youself
Have a nice day
Have a nice day
2012-05-31 00:40:04
well he's right, his first tweet in the morning was "tonight, i'm announcing my next club on twitter", so he was basically saying he'll say which club he had chosen between Man.City, Man.Utd and Chelsea (it was supposed to be a fight between Manchesters, but then Chelsea got into the race by winning the CL).
and then, later that day, he said (i'm translating french): "i'm joining the European champions", so yeah, he was saying Chelsea fosho and you're losing this argument.
sh*t i'm approving lidda's point once again, this is getting weird
and then, later that day, he said (i'm translating french): "i'm joining the European champions", so yeah, he was saying Chelsea fosho and you're losing this argument.
sh*t i'm approving lidda's point once again, this is getting weird
2012-05-31 01:49:49
Nice way of saying: "I have nothing more to say because I got owned, defeat."
2012-05-31 08:25:15
Do you know English? I yes, then why the hell you don't understand sentence "Don't reply this anymore"?
2012-05-31 10:32:38
NOOOOOOOOOO EDEN...
2012-05-29 01:38:10
He is not even Proven, best player in the French league? WTF IS A FRENCH LEAGUE.. look at Edin Dzeko... did amazing in Bundesliga which is much stronger then the french league, yet he can't do much in the Premier. This Hazard needs to be Aguero standard if he is going to do anything this 1st season.
2012-05-29 01:47:24
how can Dzeko do something in the bench? put in the fucking field than we'll talk. he's the best STRIKER that Man City has, there is no doubt in my mind! their system doesnt suit him, he's a positional player, unlike aguero and tevez...
2012-05-29 01:50:50
He's on the bench because he cannot handle the pace of the premier league, when he is playing he is not so good, sometimes he has the odd good games. There is a big reason why Aguero, Tevez and even Ballotelli gets the green light before him.
2012-05-29 01:57:42
oh wow
>best striker in the team which has Aguero
DAT DELUSION
>best striker in the team which has Aguero
DAT DELUSION
2012-05-30 11:30:56
aguero isnt a striker imo.. Falcao is a stiker, ibra is a striker, brazilian ronaldo was a striker.. it all depends on your definition of "striker"
2012-05-30 13:39:20
?
Essien
Benzema
Drogba
Malouda
Abidal
Henry
Viera
Zidane
Ronaldinho
Cantona
And so on...
They all explosed in Ligue 1.
Essien
Benzema
Drogba
Malouda
Abidal
Henry
Viera
Zidane
Ronaldinho
Cantona
And so on...
They all explosed in Ligue 1.
2012-05-29 01:55:13
I didn't say french players suck
+ they are Aguero standard or better
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+ they are Aguero standard or better
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2012-05-29 01:56:38
That wasnt my point, my point that a shitload of players from ligue succeed and succeeded in other championship, so your point is irrelevant when you say he didn't proved anything .
2012-05-29 02:03:54
He is not proven until he plays in the premier league or in barca/real. He is going to be paid wages around 150k-200k which is above chelsea and man city average! Yet they don't even know if he can handle it. If he suceeds thats great, if he dosen't be a big waste, imo thats too big of a gamble. None of the players you mention above was brought for an extremely high amount. 32m + 8m a year for Hazard. That's crazy, and don't even mention the inflation because thats still too much for hazard. He is also the kind who talks alot, hopefully he can use his footall skills to do the talking. I guess you can compare him to Neymar. He plays also in a crap league, and people are already bidding 40m Euro for him, yet he might be a massive fail. Fancy tricks dosen't mean your good.
Anyway enough of this, i already explained my opinion and you can have yours, i don't mean to offend your league, but in comparison its nothing to the premier, but that's only because we have too much oil owners here -_-
Good luck in Euro's!
Anyway enough of this, i already explained my opinion and you can have yours, i don't mean to offend your league, but in comparison its nothing to the premier, but that's only because we have too much oil owners here -_-
Good luck in Euro's!
2012-05-29 02:19:20
Actually this rule might be used to any footballer that comes from somehwere else then Premier League or Barca/Real. You wanna say all the clubs are gambling all the time, because they pick up players who are not proven yet?
2012-05-29 08:09:50
I said high amount of money is a gamble, 5-10m is not a gamble, because they are not expected to be awesome. Look at what newcastle has done, payed 5-10m for players, play amazing now some has value of over 20m. 32m is alot for a 21 year old, you don't agree? 50m on torres was not a gamble, because he was proven, unfortunately he cannot find his form again.
2012-05-29 12:30:14
Aguero sucks... what the problem? Hazard >>> Aguero...
2012-05-29 13:22:06
Im a Man United Fan, and even i know Aguero does not suck. Hazard better then Aguero? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA maybe one day, but right now Aguero will shit on him
2012-05-29 16:33:07
cool story bro)
I think he will prove my words with ease
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I think he will prove my words with ease
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2012-05-29 16:48:40
he doesnt have chance to prove...
he needs time to adapt and he has actually done some great jobs
13/14 goals for this season+the crucial goal in the match against QPR
but man city is not patient enough and keeps on buying new strikers as they have lots of money to spend
1x goals for a bench player is already very good
he needs time to adapt and he has actually done some great jobs
13/14 goals for this season+the crucial goal in the match against QPR
but man city is not patient enough and keeps on buying new strikers as they have lots of money to spend
1x goals for a bench player is already very good
2012-05-29 16:28:53
Your point stands, what I don't understand is how are you still surprised about all this? This is the reality of the EPL now, Abramovich and the sheiks competing about who can bring in more talent without any concern for money.
FFP won't even make much of an impact. City partially bypassed it with that shady sponsorship deal. I heard PSG also found a workaround, it will basically work like this:
1. a club from Qatar buys a player
2. player gets loaned to PSG
3. ???
4. PROFIT!
FFP won't even make much of an impact. City partially bypassed it with that shady sponsorship deal. I heard PSG also found a workaround, it will basically work like this:
1. a club from Qatar buys a player
2. player gets loaned to PSG
3. ???
4. PROFIT!
2012-05-30 11:40:15
Rofl. Never heard about him..
2012-05-29 10:19:55
Eden Hazard ? I don't know who is it. First time I heard about him.
2012-05-29 10:29:50
Zinedine Zidane in an interview said that Hazard has a great future, and in the near future it could become a great player. :)
2012-05-29 12:38:50
Yeah, Zidane is working for Real Madrid and he's been trying to convince Florentino and Mourinho for a while to sign him. Unfortunately, they didn't heard his advices.
A really talented player. And a quiet one, unlike other 'upcoming talents' full of marketing.
A really talented player. And a quiet one, unlike other 'upcoming talents' full of marketing.
2012-05-29 13:57:14
one of the condition of hazard is to have assured playing time.
i doubt if he can play always in real madrid.
just take a look on nuri sahin
he is also talented but real madrid doesnt use him
so...
i doubt if he can play always in real madrid.
just take a look on nuri sahin
he is also talented but real madrid doesnt use him
so...
2012-05-29 16:31:04
Well, when you arrive in a big team, you can't ask to be on the starting 11 every match. Thats something you have to gain for yourself.
In Sahin's case, he joined Real Madrid when he was injured. I think I didn't watch him playing until december or so. And, of course, after all these months being injured, he didn't play well.
Anyway, you know Mourinho. He will play with Khedira until the end of the days. He always want to have a 'strenght' player in the miidfield, ignoring if this player cannot pass a single ball.
Looks like Mourinho prefer Lucas Moura.
But I insist, I would listen every advice Zidane gives to me. He also recommended Varane for Real Madrid. And they paid €10M for a 18yo player with only 10 matches played in his history. He is also a very good talented defense.
In Sahin's case, he joined Real Madrid when he was injured. I think I didn't watch him playing until december or so. And, of course, after all these months being injured, he didn't play well.
Anyway, you know Mourinho. He will play with Khedira until the end of the days. He always want to have a 'strenght' player in the miidfield, ignoring if this player cannot pass a single ball.
Looks like Mourinho prefer Lucas Moura.
But I insist, I would listen every advice Zidane gives to me. He also recommended Varane for Real Madrid. And they paid €10M for a 18yo player with only 10 matches played in his history. He is also a very good talented defense.
2012-05-29 18:39:56
cmon, why would Real Madrid buy Hazard when they have Kaka and Ozil? yeah i know isnt what he used to be, but they cant afford to have 3 playmakers in one team.. what they need is a good and strong right winger, like Hulk. and a good right-back, Arbeloa isnt r.madrid material imo.. and yeah i dont get the whole Sami Khedira thing, everytime i see Granero playing i think "why the hell doesnt Mourinho put him on the field more often", always chooses Khedira... :/ and Di Maria, what a jerk-off, Barça bought Alexis Sanchez for more or less the same amount of money..
2012-05-30 00:12:47
A QUITE ONE WHAT?!?!?!
Didn't you see his massive amount of shit posts @twitter over the whole year?! He might be talented but his personality is one of the ugliest i ever witnessed.. (for an upcoming players who really hasn't achieved anything yet)
Didn't you see his massive amount of shit posts @twitter over the whole year?! He might be talented but his personality is one of the ugliest i ever witnessed.. (for an upcoming players who really hasn't achieved anything yet)
2012-05-29 20:06:35
To be honest, Real doesn't need him, nor any player, ok, maybe a CM like Schweinsteiger, but there's Nuri Sahin, an awesome player.
2012-05-31 13:20:46
last year he has 7 goals and 9 assists in Ligue 1.. this year he has 20 goals and 22 assists.. what a big step up!.. just look on this statistic guys...
2012-05-29 13:24:11
where is a site where to explore current confirmed trasnfers or hot rumors at the moment? please share
2012-05-29 14:42:01
Fucking preak... Looking for money... Arsenal FTW !
2012-05-29 16:33:14
if he wants money he could have joined man city already
but look, arsenal hasnt got any champions for years
and he wants teams that can bring tropheys
so man city man u and chelsea are his options
and at last he chose chelsea because chelsea assures that he can have lots of time playing on the pitch
but look, arsenal hasnt got any champions for years
and he wants teams that can bring tropheys
so man city man u and chelsea are his options
and at last he chose chelsea because chelsea assures that he can have lots of time playing on the pitch
2012-05-29 16:36:13
or Anji :D
2012-05-29 16:47:20
The difference between City and Anji is that City can win something with the money, but Anji can't. Players go there, just to earn money before they retire :D
2012-05-29 17:32:12
And the difference is also that the people in charge of Anzhi are lunatics compared to the people in charge of Man City. Anzhi wanted to pay 88 million € for Hulk and Porto said no because they wanted 90 million €. I mean, Hulk isn't worth that much but he is a fantastic player for sure.
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2012-05-29 17:38:39
Anzhi have a stupid management, they need to buy 6 good russian players because of russian rules to foreign players, with 6 good russian players they could then buy other 5 good foreigns.
2012-05-29 20:13:18
Wow, didn't know that, thanks for the info.. Guess that's why they aren't linked with big star foreign players any more. I could only imagine what would happen in the football world if those rules didn't exist..
2012-05-29 20:35:13
dont believe in everything u hear.. if they had proposed that kind of money u really think porto would have said no? cmon, thats so naive. our whole budget for last year was around 100M€...
2012-05-30 00:07:55
For his style of game, better team is Arsenal. More creative playing and more attacking. And he will playing in Champions League, same as with Chelsea. Time will show who was right :D
2012-05-29 20:58:00
Lol chelsea didn't beat Barcelona by some "tactic", they just parked the fat bus in front of the goal and hoped for the best and got lucky.. Really lucky, not that I like barcelona, but what they missed against chelsea is unbelivable and Messi was in the worst form this year, even missed a pen. Then Chelsea gets lucky in the final where they were completely outplayed and outclassed and there was only 1 team playing the whole time, Bayern Munich and suddenly you are the kings of Euroe?! Lol cmon, you need 2-3 more players like Hazard. He'll just be used as a counter-attacking force, specially if you stick with Roberto DiMatteo, as we all know he can't and won't change his tactics! And Hazard said he is going to sign for the champions league winner, Pool won it, United won it, Villa won it, not just Chelsea :)
Check the offical Chelsea page if there is any statement that they signed Eden Hazard and you won't find it
Check the offical Chelsea page if there is any statement that they signed Eden Hazard and you won't find it
2012-05-29 16:50:32
Haters gonna hate. The best football isn't always the prettiest one. Chelsea's tactic was to counter-attack, it worked, their tactic was the best.
By the way, Belgium will play England soon so after that match he'll go to Stamford Bridge for his medical examination.
Guess we will see Hazard in Porto then :-)
By the way, Belgium will play England soon so after that match he'll go to Stamford Bridge for his medical examination.
Guess we will see Hazard in Porto then :-)
2012-05-29 17:26:49
Chelsea tactic was this "pin 5+ people on Messi and pray that the rest of Barcelona chokes" which they did. Barcelona beat themselves really. If Guardiola had a plan b besides Messi it would have been solved on stamford bridge already. But he's got himself to blame for it, he played first team against 2nd and 3rd rate teams in fifa cwc which lost him Villa for the rest of the season.
2012-05-29 19:14:44
And their tactic worked while Barcelona's didn't. Chelsea > Barcelona.
2012-05-29 19:33:59
Hope Chelsea keeps RdM next year and you enjoy more of his "tactics". On the other hand I will be watching Barcelona fighting the fascists in Madrid while being coached by TITO himself.
http://www.hkv.hr/images/stories/Dado_slike/Tito.j..
http://www.hkv.hr/images/stories/Dado_slike/Tito.j..
2012-05-29 19:36:26
Counter-attack? You don't know anything about football do you? What counter-attack you didn't cross the goddamn midfield, their tactic was far from the best dude.. They just got lucky so many times it had to happen, get over it.. Chelsea isn't even a top10 in the world right now and Barcelona is still by far the best
2012-05-29 19:37:51
Haha guess you didn't watch the match then young fella. All 3 goals Chelsea scored was on counter-attacking ;-) They had luck yes, but then again they executed their tactic the best and it worked against all teams they faced so QQ Stop sucking Barcelona's dick, they are not the best, Real Madrid and Chelsea are just some teams that are better.
2012-05-29 19:50:45
Lol you are so deluded if you think Barcelona are not the best :) 4 league titles in last 5 years, 2 champions league wins 3 times in the semifinal, I'm not even a barca fan, but if you aren't completely stupid you can't say Real Madrid is better or Chelsea LOL, Chelsea is 6th in Premier League, Man United is far better and has achieved far more in the last years even City is better nowadays than Chelski.. If they got lucky parking the bus once doesn't make them a top3 team
2012-05-30 06:33:15
Barcelona is the best you say? Really? They lost both in the Champions League AND in the spanish league, how the hell can they be the best then? They were the best before but now they are not. You bring up shit that happened before and just because they won all those titles BEFORE it doesn't mean they are best now especially when they didn't win the league or the Champions League. Stop bringing up what happened last season, we live in present time and Barcelona aren't the best today.
2012-05-30 09:05:27
but.. i cant understand how Hazard, Mata and Marin can play along..
2012-05-29 18:47:35
Hazard to the left, Mata in the middle and Marin to the right.
2012-05-29 18:54:32
If you weren't a total idiot you would learn to read, he said he will only play in a club that play him in a number 10. position, your club doesn't even have a manager how can they asure him that? Lol can't believe I was actually happy that poor losers Chelski won something this year, as its obvious you have no normal fans just idiotic gloryhunters who know nothing about football. And you got all the positions wrong, too much football manager boy..
2012-05-29 19:40:17
If you weren't such a retard you would know that just because Hazard has the number 10 in Lille it doesn't have to mean he plays the typical number 10 because he plays on the left wing, tardo. Go learn something about REAL football instead of just watching Barcelona and thinking that's "real" football.
2012-05-29 19:54:00
he doesnt, ur wrong. he played in the number 10 position this year, thats was the reason for his impressive year, he changed the position since Gervinho left.. ur wrong about that..
2012-05-30 00:04:31
He CAN play as a typical number 10 but he has played as the left winger and that's his natural position. And he will probably play as left winger as Chelsea doesn't have a player at a typical number 10 position.
2012-05-30 09:06:52
no, he CAN play as a winger, his natural position is play-maker... he wont play as left winger, stop saying that, ur wrong..
2012-05-30 11:14:33
Haha oh my God, dude, I've been following him for a long time, he started of as a left winger in Lille and played as a left winger 'til 2011 when Cabaye left for Newcastle, that's when he got to play as a typical 10 and was tested as a typical 10 this season. This means his natuarl position is playing as a left winger. Get your facts right next time.
2012-05-30 15:26:36
ofc he started of as left winger, cabaye and Gervinho(right) were playing at the center already, he had to play in the line, there was no way he could have done anything in the middle! that was an adaptation! it happens, but his natural position is NUMBER 10 and ur not the only in the world that have been following him for a long time bro, trust me...
2012-05-30 16:30:42
No, that was no adaption he had to make, he even plays as a left winger in the national team. The adaption was that he had to go from a winger to a typical 10 this season, his natural position is left winger.
2012-05-30 17:32:54
he plays as a left winger because they play with Axel Witsel, Steven Defour and Felaini in the middle! cmon bro... u dont know what ur saying... he must play wherever the national manager thinks he will help the national team the most, so considering they 3 great midfielders, its a better option to put him in the left wing, that way they can all play...
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2012-05-30 18:05:29
And that's his natural position and that's the position he's gonna play in Chelsea because Chelsea play will probably play in the middle with Mikel, Lampard and Ramires.
Before -> http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2011/03/862..
After ->
http://formation-x.com/en/ucl/lille.html
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/teams/france/52/lille
You're welcome.
Before -> http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2011/03/862..
After ->
http://formation-x.com/en/ucl/lille.html
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/teams/france/52/lille
You're welcome.
2012-05-30 18:12:20
Answer?
2012-05-31 08:52:12
i will not continue with this pathetic discussion, u know dont shit about football and i think u know all!! Hazard is and will always be a number 10! doesnt matter if he plays a couple of times in the left wing, he had to, otherwise he would sit in the bench. Hulk played a couple of times as Striker, does that means he's a striker to u? look at the bottom of this page, u'll see a belgian guy saying exactly what i say, HAZARD IS A NUMBER 10, classic number 10! end of discussion, dont even bother to reply, seriously..
2012-05-31 18:20:06
Pfffffffffffff. I provide you with evidence and you still deny it. This discussion is not pathetic, YOU are.
2012-05-31 18:40:28
evidence of what idiot?! ur the most stupid person i've ever seen around here, ffs!
2012-05-31 19:18:01
READ HIS INTERVIEWS DUDE HE SAID HE WILL WANTS TO PLAY AS AN ATTACKING CENTRAL MIDFIELDER IF YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS FUCTARD
2012-05-30 06:34:24
U mad kiddo? His natural position is left winger but he CAN play the typical number 10. That won't happen because Chelsea doesn't play with a typical number 10 player and they don't have that position in their formation.
2012-05-30 09:07:36
again, WRONG! u can easily switch from 4-3-3 to 4-2-3-1, with a number 10(ozil) player and with two wingers(Ronaldo and Di Maria most of the times) as chelsea plays, and with 2 center midfielders (xabi alonso and sami khedira), plus a striker (Benzema), im giving u the Real Madrid example so u can see how easily u can play with one system defending (4-3-3), and with another attacking (4-2-3-1), in the same match.. Hazard can easily play in the position of Lampard, cause lets face it, he will not last forever..
2012-05-31 18:24:18
Chelsea isn't Real Madrid, you know. Di Matteo will stick to his tactic and formation because it clearly worked against some of the best teams in the world. This means that Chelsea will not have a typical 10 position. Lampard doesn't play the number 10 position. Mikel plays exactly in the middle of the circle and Lampard plays with either Meireles or someone else a few metres above. That is not a typical number 10 position which means Hazard won't be able to play that position. He will play as a winger not just because it's his natural position but because there is no other choice for him unless Di Matteo changes his tactics and formation which probably won't happen.
2012-05-31 18:43:12
Hazard actually isn't a winger. Mata plays as good on left wing as in the middle whereas Hazard is way better on the number ten. So Hazard in the middle and Mata on the left would be better for Chelsea imho. They can switch around as well.
2012-05-30 18:32:46
His natural position is a winger because that's what he's been playing in the national team and in Lille before and most of the games this season for Lille even though I can agree he would be better as a playmaker. I agree with you that he and Mata could switch it out sometimes just to test the defensive of the opponents.
2012-05-30 18:51:49
see? ur just retarded! just because he plays there most of the times, doesnt mean his natural position is left winger! grow up, be a man and admit ur wrong, how hard can that shit be? ffs!
2012-05-31 18:25:25
I'm stubborn to get you to realize that you have no proof at all while I provided you proof with BIG and then I mean really big football websites that gather information game after game and as you can see they placed him as a winger because that is his position. You just have your opinion, I shouldn't even call it an opinion because it's a lie. I proved you wrong but you are just too stubborn to realize it so you just force your opinion. Get over it kiddo, if you can't accept this defeat then you won't hang on very long in life.
2012-05-31 18:45:20
omg!! WATCH WHAT THE GUY BELOW SAYS U KID! im done here!
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2012-05-31 19:19:36
So what, just because he's from Belgium he knows better than me? I'm not saying I know everything but this I know. You say you're done so stop replying then, I understand that you gave up because you lost, move on now.
2012-05-31 21:45:01
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league..
well i guess even the guys from GOAL.com are wrong!! ffs
well i guess even the guys from GOAL.com are wrong!! ffs
2012-06-05 11:08:50
Hulk hasn't even signed yet! This is what they think and how they would like to see the Chelsea line-up look you tard. Is this a done by Chelsea? No. This is from the goal.com journalists what THEY THINK NOT HOW IT ACTUALLY WILL LOOK LIKE. Get your fact right next time son. I provided you with fact that is real because Hazard DID play as a winger most of the times this season. What you are posting is just opinions and thoughts, nothing that has happened.
2012-06-05 12:04:05
hahhahahhhahhahahahh ur dumb as a fucking door man!! i cant believe how stupid u are, seriously..
2012-06-05 13:02:30
Nop, he is a 10 and wants to play at 10 himself
He was forced by the coach in the national team and he didnt wanted it himself ;) It already changed in meanwhile too, now hes are nr10 at the national team too :)
He was forced by the coach in the national team and he didnt wanted it himself ;) It already changed in meanwhile too, now hes are nr10 at the national team too :)
2012-05-31 18:55:19
DOUBle UPZ
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2012-05-31 18:55:34
He will do well in the premiership, not Aguerolike worldclassinhisfirstseason, but he will do well. Ligue1 is a shitty league compared to EPL but in terms of how physical it is it's on the same level so he is already used to that side.
Oh, btw, where are all those portugese fanboys that argued with me some 10 months about how ago how Aguero will fail in the premiership?
World class bitches.
Oh, btw, where are all those portugese fanboys that argued with me some 10 months about how ago how Aguero will fail in the premiership?
World class bitches.
2012-05-29 19:22:59
And like boba said I hope you'll enjoy next year when you'll be parking the bus for the whole damn year with players that could show us much more :) Chelsea will never be a big club and all you will get is moneyhungry players like Hazard, United will get Kagawa who is twice more proven, and proven in a better league then French. He ripped Bayern Munich apart while your sorry excuse for a team couldn't cross the midfield :)
2012-05-29 19:42:17
Learn how to reply posts dude and stop crying and being mad. Your're being childish.
2012-05-29 19:55:16
You're the child with no clue about football maybe you should just go play LoL and shut your clueless face and stop trying to look like you know something about football
2012-05-30 06:39:00
www.chelseafc.com/ DONT SEE THE NEWS: CHELSEA SIGN HAZARD
2012-05-29 19:43:12
He confirmed it on his official twitter account, d!ckhead.
2012-05-29 19:55:33
Yes cause Chelsea is the only club to ever win a champions league you are so stupid its unbelivable kid
2012-05-30 06:37:53
What are you takling about, ahahahha?!
If he would mean a club that had won Champions League previously he would've said ex-Champions. When you say the Champions of Europe you mean the current Champions not the Champions from 5 years ago, they are ex-Champions if even that. Like I said, get a brain.
If he would mean a club that had won Champions League previously he would've said ex-Champions. When you say the Champions of Europe you mean the current Champions not the Champions from 5 years ago, they are ex-Champions if even that. Like I said, get a brain.
2012-05-30 09:11:23
kagawa > hazard more goals assists in compare to eden hazard :D
2012-05-29 19:51:42
Hehe, check your facts so that they are right next time ;)
2012-05-29 19:55:51
His facts are right you're just a complete 15 year old douche that doesn't have a clue about football and probably never played it
2012-05-30 06:37:19
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/102139/sh..
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/101390/ed..
GeT_A_BrAiN
You probably even don't know the shape of a football so I don't really expect you to know anything about football at present time.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/101390/ed..
GeT_A_BrAiN
You probably even don't know the shape of a football so I don't really expect you to know anything about football at present time.
2012-05-30 09:09:30
a completely different kind of player. kagawa is more of a playmaker whereas hazard is a very fast winger.
by the way if chelsea could really buy hulk, hazard and falcao, they would KICK ASS so hard :D
A replacement for Bosingwa is also needed. Vrsaljko maybe?:)
by the way if chelsea could really buy hulk, hazard and falcao, they would KICK ASS so hard :D
A replacement for Bosingwa is also needed. Vrsaljko maybe?:)
2012-05-29 20:24:06
The thing with Bosingwa he is a great attacking player, but he is a really bad defensive player. In CL final almost always when Bayern attacked it was on Bosingwa's wing and they did what they wanted to do there. But when Bosingwa attacks, he is in great shape, he can run a lot and he attacks pretty good, but defensivily he is a disaster. :( :D
2012-05-29 22:04:47
True, the problem is that he is getting really old for a wing-back role. He has to cover his entire wing while he has to go back to defend and make runs near the line to help the attacks. Same thing with Frankie in Chelsea, he is still in great shape but Mikel (who is also very slow, sadly) has much more stamina to play as box-to-box midfield and help both attack and defense.
What you described is generally the biggest problem with every wing-back. Let's have a look at Real Madrid for example.: They have Arbeola and Marcelo, both can play left-backs, but Marcelo is a much more attacking type of player. Managers basically have to choose between attack and defense quality when they choose to play with wing-backs. The only 3 examples of a world class wing-back (who can play both roles reasonably) are Maicon, Cole and Dani Alves. (Even Bale suck at defending. :()
What you described is generally the biggest problem with every wing-back. Let's have a look at Real Madrid for example.: They have Arbeola and Marcelo, both can play left-backs, but Marcelo is a much more attacking type of player. Managers basically have to choose between attack and defense quality when they choose to play with wing-backs. The only 3 examples of a world class wing-back (who can play both roles reasonably) are Maicon, Cole and Dani Alves. (Even Bale suck at defending. :()
2012-05-30 03:31:36
they are both playmakers, do not put hazard playing in the line cause if u do, u'll end up with a Hazard like 10/11, this year was way better, he completely carried Lille and he played in the number 10 position.. im quoting him ..
2012-05-30 00:01:05
Lucky for him than. :)
When Lille still had Cabaye he was usually the one who dictated tempo and tried to control midfield. Kind of strange to see Hazard playing as playmaker. (I don't really follow Leauge1.)
My concern is: If you look at chelsea, they have:
- Malouda
Old but very creative, experienced. Can play as winger (still has the speed) and center midfield (strong enough physically). Can make a good playmaker.
- Mata
An amazing player for sure, still young, fast as f*ck and already very confident. Ideal playmaker.
- Mikel (more of a Def.Midfield but still)
A very good playmaker for matches where a full scale attack is not an option. He lacks speed but his other qualities are extremely good. The best DLP in the leauge in my opinion.
So the question is: Why the f*ck do they need another playmaker? o.O
What they do need is a real winger (since Kalou is leaving, Mata is better in the center and Malouda is getting older and older) in both wings. Ramires (right wing) is more of a wide-midfielder imo, and they don't have any real option for a left midfielder either. That's how Hulk and Hazard came into the picture, and that's why I expect Hazard to play as winger again. :)
When Lille still had Cabaye he was usually the one who dictated tempo and tried to control midfield. Kind of strange to see Hazard playing as playmaker. (I don't really follow Leauge1.)
My concern is: If you look at chelsea, they have:
- Malouda
Old but very creative, experienced. Can play as winger (still has the speed) and center midfield (strong enough physically). Can make a good playmaker.
- Mata
An amazing player for sure, still young, fast as f*ck and already very confident. Ideal playmaker.
- Mikel (more of a Def.Midfield but still)
A very good playmaker for matches where a full scale attack is not an option. He lacks speed but his other qualities are extremely good. The best DLP in the leauge in my opinion.
So the question is: Why the f*ck do they need another playmaker? o.O
What they do need is a real winger (since Kalou is leaving, Mata is better in the center and Malouda is getting older and older) in both wings. Ramires (right wing) is more of a wide-midfielder imo, and they don't have any real option for a left midfielder either. That's how Hulk and Hazard came into the picture, and that's why I expect Hazard to play as winger again. :)
2012-05-30 03:43:47
i think when Azar will be playing for Chelsea, Mata will have to find new team
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2012-05-30 12:13:33
oh yes sure, player of the year will have to find a new team...
2012-05-30 18:04:50
yes...
and.. WTF PLAYER OF THE YEAR?:D for Chelsea u mean?:D
Post edited 2012-05-31 14:52:55
and.. WTF PLAYER OF THE YEAR?:D for Chelsea u mean?:D
Post edited 2012-05-31 14:52:55
2012-05-31 14:52:16
Hazard >>>>> Kagawa by far
and wait.. Hazard = 38 matches - 20 goals + 22 assists
Kagawa = 31 matches - 13 goals + 12 assists...
so Hazard > Kagawa
and Kagawa older than Hazard by 3 years
Post edited 2012-05-29 22:01:54
and wait.. Hazard = 38 matches - 20 goals + 22 assists
Kagawa = 31 matches - 13 goals + 12 assists...
so Hazard > Kagawa
and Kagawa older than Hazard by 3 years
Post edited 2012-05-29 22:01:54
2012-05-29 21:59:27
Look at the statics over the course of three years Kagawa's stats are much better, and he plays in a tougher league, pipped bayern for the crown twice and been the star men doing it.. Get your facts straight Shinji Kagawa is far more proven than Hazard and played in a much tougher league
2012-05-30 06:36:31
hmm last year he has 8 goals and 1 assists
and Hazard has 7 goals 9 assists..
r u blind?
and Hazard has 7 goals 9 assists..
r u blind?
2012-05-30 12:06:35
He is not blind, just retarded.
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2012-05-30 18:13:34
"statics" ahaha
2012-05-31 13:26:04
Hazard at Chelsea = one great talent's carrier dies.
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2012-05-29 20:59:37
agree...
but i hope pls noo
Post edited 2012-05-29 21:38:59
but i hope pls noo
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2012-05-29 21:30:47
Hazard = Belgian player
BELGIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM
BELGIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM
2012-05-29 23:02:09
+ lukaku
+ kevin de bruyne
<3 :D
+ kevin de bruyne
<3 :D
2012-05-30 00:06:28
Axel Witsel (his price is about 30mil)
Kompany (RM and Barca looking for him)
Kompany (RM and Barca looking for him)
2012-05-30 09:04:50
courtois <3
2012-05-30 16:13:56
And Hulk will sign for Chelsea :)
2012-05-30 12:03:47
He's really a awesome player but... his mind is a little bit weird...
https://p.twimg.com/AuAN8wzCIAEEQQX.jpg
https://p.twimg.com/AuAN8wzCIAEEQQX.jpg
2012-05-30 12:47:03
whats the problem? he considered all options..
and man he is only 21 years old..
Post edited 2012-05-30 13:21:09
and man he is only 21 years old..
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2012-05-30 13:19:10
Yeah right... changed public his option for 400000x times. I don't think that everything he said was "considering all options".
And 21 years old is more than enough to be smarter.
Whatever... good luck for him. :)
As I said, he's a really awesome player.
That attack of Chelsea (i hate this club xDD) will be really really strong!!
And 21 years old is more than enough to be smarter.
Whatever... good luck for him. :)
As I said, he's a really awesome player.
That attack of Chelsea (i hate this club xDD) will be really really strong!!
2012-05-30 15:07:51
Funny how people think Hazard is a pure winger. Yea, he played on left wing on paper most of the time with Lille but he is everywhere on the pitch. He actually is way better on the number 10 position, he is a real playmaker as well.
2012-05-30 18:30:52
and probably he is better than Mata..
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2012-05-30 19:01:19
He's at least more spectacular but Mata is a very skillful and valuable player as well.
2012-05-30 22:58:49
The problem is that Chelsea has 2 great playmakers (Mata and Mikel, while different as a player, they are both capable of organizing attacks) but both their left and right wings are a bit shaky. (Malouda getting old, Ramires is only option on right wing.) They need classy wingers. Hazard and Hulk.
2012-05-30 21:14:14
Yes and they have De Bruyne as well. I know him very well and I can say you will get to know him in the near future. Probably he will play somewhere on loan though next season.
2012-05-30 22:59:45
the man of steel :P never injured, like dirk kuijt until 2 years ago was 6 seasons completely "clean"
2012-05-30 23:11:16
Hulk will be a good replacer to Drogba.
2012-05-31 04:48:51
They play on 2 different posts... Hulk is a right wing, while Drogba is a striker.
2012-05-31 13:28:06
Hulk plays striker right now
2012-05-31 14:47:43
I watched Porto, and I saw him on the right flank, maybe he's playing something like Benzema, opening the middle and going on the flank.
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2012-05-31 14:56:02
Hulk is a right winger, ur right, he played a couple of matchs as a striker because we have no striker since Falcao left..
2012-05-31 18:14:33
imo Hulk is in top 5 players atm..whoever signs him does a really good job..hope it`s not chelsea, but united xD
2012-06-05 12:09:48
top 5 players ? huh? dont think so, falcao messi zlatan persie ronaldo rooney and many more is better. If u look at players like cavani aguero benzema higuain maybe he is on same level but not better.
2012-06-05 13:08:11
ronaldo, messi, falcao, rooney, van persie, silva... more and more others.. even hazard much better...
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2012-06-05 13:51:32
hazard is a great player imo just hope he will get alot of playtime in chelsea with the big names they got running around
2012-05-31 21:10:36
they gonna buy hulk too , mata (left forward) , torres ( CF ) , hulk (right forward) and hazard behind torres :)
2012-06-05 14:12:05
hazard will be left forward 4 sure
2012-06-05 14:14:13
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