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Croatia vs Spain
What do you think who will win this match and which two teams will pass groupstage?
I honestly think that result will be 2:2. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
I honestly think that result will be 2:2. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
easy for spain .. croatias only chance is ireland drawing vs italy
2012-06-17 20:36:58
One does not simply say easy,
when we talk about football
when we talk about football
2012-06-17 20:44:22
One does simply say easy,
when we talk about Spain.
when we talk about Spain.
2012-06-17 20:47:40
Italy disagrees!
2012-06-17 22:24:16
Spain played without a real attacker , and yet Italy couldn't win.
2012-06-17 22:35:03
Well, Italy played better against Spain then any other team in last few years...
2012-06-18 00:29:31
That is a lie!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL6e4RZr9ng
2012-06-19 18:49:15
That was friendly match... :)
2012-06-19 19:18:54
So what?
2012-06-20 01:51:02
Think a little about it, then you might find your answer... :)
2012-06-20 01:57:19
R u sayin dat the players from spain didnt try hard enough? like they were kidin or sth?
2012-06-20 17:15:22
Did you ever played football league, or even cs lan tournament?
There is huge difference in attitude, motivation between practice matches and tournament matches...
Fryendlies are practice matches...
At the end, there is fine possibility that those two will meet in semifinal... Then we will see... I am sure the score will not be 4-0...
:)
2012-06-20 19:11:53
Lol It was an even better choice to play whithout attack, you really don't know football, the playstyle of spain allows them to play whithout a number 9.
2012-06-18 14:56:14
that's why they barely draw... yeah , great choice mr.del bosque .. who the fuck does play without a real attacker ?
u can't always play 800 passes per match and walk in into the goal
Post edited 2012-06-18 15:22:19
u can't always play 800 passes per match and walk in into the goal
Post edited 2012-06-18 15:22:19
2012-06-18 15:21:27
that "unreal" attacker has actually scored the only goal. Yeah, very bad choice by del bosque, sure.
2012-06-18 16:16:35
if they played a torres they would have scored 3 atleast
2012-06-18 16:19:54
are you kidding ? Have you seen Torres vs Italy ? The guy can't hit a barn door from 2 meters away atm... Dude, del Bosque has made Spain world champions FFS. For the first time - and they had plenty of great squads in past as well. But no one succeeded in bringing them together to win - and del Bosque did.
Post edited 2012-06-18 16:33:53
Post edited 2012-06-18 16:33:53
2012-06-18 16:32:58
dude, torres played 15 mins .. have u seen him vs ireland?
i know what del bosque did , i also know that spain is gonna win euro so that's why i wrote that Croatia will be easy for them which was my point from the start
Post edited 2012-06-18 16:42:26
i know what del bosque did , i also know that spain is gonna win euro so that's why i wrote that Croatia will be easy for them which was my point from the start
Post edited 2012-06-18 16:42:26
2012-06-18 16:41:40
Ireland is hardly a good enough example for performance evaluation. Their defence is horrible, to say the least.
Heh, I wouldn't be so sure about the whole Euro btw. Germans are incredibly strong, France can also surprise. Spain are favourites on paper, but as we all know - football isn't played on paper...
Post edited 2012-06-18 16:44:52
Heh, I wouldn't be so sure about the whole Euro btw. Germans are incredibly strong, France can also surprise. Spain are favourites on paper, but as we all know - football isn't played on paper...
Post edited 2012-06-18 16:44:52
2012-06-18 16:43:50
Lol , now you're telling me obvious stuff . If Greece could won it back in 04 than all germany , france , hell even portugal could take it . You don't need to tell me this .
So that's why people have different opinions cuz I'm sure that Spain is gonna win Euro.
So that's why people have different opinions cuz I'm sure that Spain is gonna win Euro.
2012-06-18 16:47:13
Torres missed all of his chances, yeah still better than playing without n°9, gtfo from football threads pls.
2012-06-18 17:09:27
torres isn't only attacker u know . they should have started with attacker from first min .. and not bringin him in 75th
Post edited 2012-06-18 17:13:44
Post edited 2012-06-18 17:13:44
2012-06-18 17:12:44
you're a fanboy, nothing more. You are the kind of person who said that barca wil crush chelsea, same for the final.
2012-06-18 14:57:15
i hate barca .. i supported chelsea all the way
Post edited 2012-06-18 15:20:49
Post edited 2012-06-18 15:20:49
2012-06-18 15:20:36
so why fucking say that all spain matches are easy to them.
2012-06-18 17:07:50
cuz i love real madrid maybe ?
2012-06-18 17:10:56
And that's a reason to think that they will win easily, because there are some real madrid players in the team ?You're a fucking idiot.
2012-06-18 17:33:16
OMFG .. ARE U FUCKING RETARDED ?
WHEN DID I SAY SO
I WON'T EVEN FUCKING DICUSS U FUCKING RETARD
BYE
i told u i don't like spain cuz of barca's players , i love them cuz of madrid's players WHICH DOESN'T FUCKING MEAN that they are goona win easy cuz of it
Post edited 2012-06-18 17:45:10
WHEN DID I SAY SO
I WON'T EVEN FUCKING DICUSS U FUCKING RETARD
BYE
i told u i don't like spain cuz of barca's players , i love them cuz of madrid's players WHICH DOESN'T FUCKING MEAN that they are goona win easy cuz of it
Post edited 2012-06-18 17:45:10
2012-06-18 17:43:32
"so why fucking say that all spain matches are easy to them" That's what I said, u replied : "cuz i love real madrid maybe ?"
Have a nice day.
Have a nice day.
2012-06-18 18:04:57
Okay , i'll explain this last time . It's easy cuz I fucking believe so ! If u believe it's gonna be hard for them , than I respect your opinion , unlike u .
I didn't even bother to read your reply cuz i thought u were asking me why do I support Spain if I hate barca , so I answered : "Cuz i love Real Madrid."
Post edited 2012-06-18 18:12:08
I didn't even bother to read your reply cuz i thought u were asking me why do I support Spain if I hate barca , so I answered : "Cuz i love Real Madrid."
Post edited 2012-06-18 18:12:08
2012-06-18 18:10:52
i'm not a fan of Barca, but before the semi-final, everybody said that Barca will crush Chelsea
2012-06-18 17:00:11
in your dreams
2012-06-17 20:38:30
Spain will win, just like Italy.
2012-06-17 20:54:22
I hope for our neighbors, good luck to Croatia !! :D
2012-06-17 21:09:53
I hope 2-2. I don't like italian's style.
2012-06-17 21:58:18
Too easy for Spain.
2012-06-17 22:20:58
I would like to see Italy and Croatia in quater-final, and Spain out!!!
But it's not likely to happend...
Spain is one level above every other team, but nothing is impossible...
I don't bellieve that they will play friendly 2-2...
But it's not likely to happend...
Spain is one level above every other team, but nothing is impossible...
I don't bellieve that they will play friendly 2-2...
2012-06-18 00:23:47
mandzukic 2-0 torres
2012-06-18 00:33:39
Mandzukic, Pereshic, go Croatia. Let's say 2-1 for cro.
2012-06-18 14:58:25
although I like Spain and Italy team, I want Croatia to go to quarterfinals. They are fighting for the honor of their country, not like Russia.
2012-06-18 15:08:05
If the play draw italy is out right?
2012-06-18 15:12:37
It depends on many factors. I will explain it right here.
In a case if Ireland play draw or win against Italy Croatia's score against Spain doesn't matter and Croatia goes further.(point difference)
In a case if Italy wins against Ireland 1:0 and Croatia plays 1:1 Croatia goes further.(goal difference)
In a case if Italy wins against Ireland with 2 goals difference (but only if it is 4-2 and above) or more and Croatia plays 1:1 Italy goes further. (goal difference)
In a case if Croatia plays draw against Spain 2:2 or more (3:3, 4:4, 5:5 etc.), score in another match doesn't matter. (mutual duels between Spain-Croatia-Italy)
Post edited 2012-06-18 15:35:43
In a case if Ireland play draw or win against Italy Croatia's score against Spain doesn't matter and Croatia goes further.(point difference)
In a case if Italy wins against Ireland 1:0 and Croatia plays 1:1 Croatia goes further.(goal difference)
In a case if Italy wins against Ireland with 2 goals difference (but only if it is 4-2 and above) or more and Croatia plays 1:1 Italy goes further. (goal difference)
In a case if Croatia plays draw against Spain 2:2 or more (3:3, 4:4, 5:5 etc.), score in another match doesn't matter. (mutual duels between Spain-Croatia-Italy)
Post edited 2012-06-18 15:35:43
2012-06-18 15:32:55
Jelavic have fieber i hope he will play, GO GO CROATIA <33
2012-06-18 16:07:19
Vida will play instead because he changed formation like against Italy, and probably Bilic will put Eduardo a bit earlier.
2012-06-18 17:41:12
2-2
i don't want to see Italy on playoffs
i don't want to see Italy on playoffs
2012-06-18 17:05:52
Spain very easy!
2012-06-18 17:11:58
Hope for Croatia, would be awesome watching Spain out of the Euro :D:D:D:D
2012-06-18 17:14:54
2:1 croatia
2012-06-18 18:17:48
1st stark didn't show obvious penalty for Croatia and then there was that goal for fuckingly obvious offside. If Stark gets killed in about few days that's me who killed that idiot.
2012-06-18 22:34:51
it was no oddside, learn the rules and watch the scene again.
humans do mistakes, so do refs.
humans do mistakes, so do refs.
2012-06-18 22:51:30
LOL. Learn the rules yourself. I'll make a copypast for you :
"Offside is a law in association football which states that if a player is in an offside position when the ball is touched or played by a teammate, he may not become actively involved in the play".
Do you want to say that Navas wasn't actively involved in the play after his offside ?! It doesn't matter one bit that the pass was for Iniesta, because the moment of offside is defined by touching the ball. It's 100% horrible mistake by referee.
Post edited 2012-06-19 00:08:21
"Offside is a law in association football which states that if a player is in an offside position when the ball is touched or played by a teammate, he may not become actively involved in the play".
Do you want to say that Navas wasn't actively involved in the play after his offside ?! It doesn't matter one bit that the pass was for Iniesta, because the moment of offside is defined by touching the ball. It's 100% horrible mistake by referee.
Post edited 2012-06-19 00:08:21
2012-06-19 00:07:09
i say situations like this with iniesta and navas so often and rarely any refs whistled it as offside. you are wrong.
2012-06-19 02:49:07
are u from croatia? just curious since u have still that old flag :P
btw : I was cheering for Croatia
btw : I was cheering for Croatia
2012-06-18 22:55:04
you fucking moron die pls.
2012-06-19 12:46:10
You're an idiot. Idiot actually didn't show TWO FUCKING penalties for Croatia and the goal was clearly from offside.
2012-06-19 17:32:16
Casillas man of the match :)
2012-06-18 22:40:49
spain's playstyle is so booooring 1 mln passes 4-5 chances max
2012-06-18 22:42:53
cuz of croatia camping the shit out in front of their goal man
2012-06-18 23:29:38
Accuse everybody of playing anti-football. Play without a striker.
Spanish logic.
Spanish logic.
2012-06-18 22:45:10
bow bow bow opp
2012-06-18 22:45:19
spain easy top1... after this match its so easy to predict..
2012-06-18 22:46:57
Not a good match by Spain. I think Del Bosque was wrong in his changes. I saw Spain out of the tournament a couple of times in the match. Anyway it was clear that Croatia skill didn't allow them to do more than they did tonight.
There was some arguable decisions by the referee. Maybe a penalty of Ramos, but I don't know for sure.
For the other part, as well we said the last match of Spain that Ireland fans were amazing, I have to say today that the croatian crowd was very bad, throwing flares...
There was some arguable decisions by the referee. Maybe a penalty of Ramos, but I don't know for sure.
For the other part, as well we said the last match of Spain that Ireland fans were amazing, I have to say today that the croatian crowd was very bad, throwing flares...
2012-06-18 22:54:39
Del Bosque is going senile, that's obvious now. Taking out Torres for Navas who is a typical winger AND he puts him on the right side (he is right footed) while there is no striker in the game is beyond retarded. He destroyed Strinic there, but there was no point since he can't cross due to no one being able to outjump our defense. If Llorente came on at the same time Navas did it would have been an easy game for Spain, at least 2-3 goals.
2012-06-18 23:23:50
wrong with changes? if you ask me cesc was a golden change :D
2012-06-18 23:35:50
Taking out Torres for a winger like Navas wasn't a good call. Yeah, Cesc did a good job. Navas too. But its about the team in overall.
2012-06-18 23:45:35
i don't really agree, if you saw the first half there was plenty of space on the right side for arbeloa, but they never passed to him, cuz of his inability to make an action. With the addition of navas they had more danger coming to the flanks..which was realy needed because the center was so stacked full of croatians.. so can't really say it's a bad change imo
2012-06-18 23:48:02
Yeah, Arbeloa is bad as hell. Navas boosted the right wing. The main problem is that Navas playstyle is to dribble and hang out the ball to be finished. Torres was the only one able to do that job and was taken out. As boba said, if Del Bosque put Llorente in, it would be way better call.
2012-06-18 23:53:33
It seems Del Bosque is insisting in trying to use the Barcelona style of no real striker on the field. It didn't work out in the first match and it didn't really in this third one (even though the goal might lead many to think it actually did).
I hope that despite the clear influence of FCB in the team's style he will realize in time that the national team isn't actually FCB but has it's own style too.
I hope that despite the clear influence of FCB in the team's style he will realize in time that the national team isn't actually FCB but has it's own style too.
2012-06-19 00:01:20
There is a missing piece; Messi. Thats why that playstyle didn't work in the national team xD.
2012-06-19 00:07:23
Sure Messi would come to one's mind but I guess we have both seen matches that despite Messi playing this style didn't always work out for FCB just as it does not for the national team in the matches we have seen so far.
Especially since it never has played that way, as far as I remember.
Even a player, not sure of the name right now, stated after the match against Italy that they didn't even train it (huge fail by Del Bosque as far as I see it - that's what friendly matches are for, for testing).
As said, I hope Del Bosque does not end up culéblind.
Post edited 2012-06-19 00:18:13
Especially since it never has played that way, as far as I remember.
Even a player, not sure of the name right now, stated after the match against Italy that they didn't even train it (huge fail by Del Bosque as far as I see it - that's what friendly matches are for, for testing).
As said, I hope Del Bosque does not end up culéblind.
Post edited 2012-06-19 00:18:13
2012-06-19 00:17:10
Same situation as with Barcelona, same man involved.
How would the future European Championship finals look like without the World champions and European Champions in the finals? Of course, we all know how UEFA carries Barcelona in Europe and since the Spanish national almost consists of just Barcelona players there is nothing new about that a new potential scandal would take place that had something to do with Barcelona, in this case it involved Spain because they have many Barcelona players. Referees feeling the pressure and giving the advantage to the clear favorites before the match and in this case the World and European Champions. That situation would have counted as an offside if it was a chance created by another club or national team(except for Spain, Barcelona and France of course). This isn't really new for me and it was just a matter of time before something would happen, let's just say football in Europe just got unfair since Platini took over in UEFA..
How would the future European Championship finals look like without the World champions and European Champions in the finals? Of course, we all know how UEFA carries Barcelona in Europe and since the Spanish national almost consists of just Barcelona players there is nothing new about that a new potential scandal would take place that had something to do with Barcelona, in this case it involved Spain because they have many Barcelona players. Referees feeling the pressure and giving the advantage to the clear favorites before the match and in this case the World and European Champions. That situation would have counted as an offside if it was a chance created by another club or national team(except for Spain, Barcelona and France of course). This isn't really new for me and it was just a matter of time before something would happen, let's just say football in Europe just got unfair since Platini took over in UEFA..
2012-06-18 23:21:11
Bullshit and honestly if you think Spain's goal was offside you should stop talking about football.
2012-06-18 23:26:05
Haha, there go you. The Spaniard at the bottom is in a situation called "passive offside", it's no real offside since he doesn't recieve the ball. It's the Spaniard at the top who gets the ball and you see that he's clearly not offside.
So check the rules before posting bullshit here.
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:36:08
So check the rules before posting bullshit here.
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:36:08
2012-06-18 23:34:15
He doesn't recieve the ball but he's clearly affecting the situation and there's the twist. As long as he doesn't affect the situation it isn't offside but here he does because the defender holding him let him go so it could be offside, if he wasn't doing anything to strengthen the situation then there would be no need for the defender to hold him. This was discussed when Ribery scored that goal on the corner vs Real Madrid when Guztavo was or wasn't offside, that was the discussion. Because the defenders weren't paying attention on him and let him go as he was offside some people say he couldn't have had any impact on the situation. Other people say that he was as he was blocking Casilla's view. That situation can be discussed, the one with Spain vs Croatia can't, it is offside.
2012-06-18 23:39:18
At the moment when the pass is happening he doesn't influence the situation in any way. It's still no offside, no matter how you argue. Correct call by the ref here.
2012-06-18 23:42:17
dude, you're wrong in so many ways I can't even start to count. 1) there is no such thing as "passive offside" in any of FIFA rules regulations. It's a term made up by journalists to describe some 50/50 situations when it's not clear if the player influenced the situation or not.
2) It is absolutely 100% clear that Navas DID influence the situation, he scored a f-ing goal one second later.
3) Since an offside is defined at the moment of touching the ball it doesn't even matter if the pass was for Iniesta or not. If Navas was 20 meters away on the right flank - yeah, that would be irrelevant to the goal and no advantage gained whatsoever. But we've all seen what he did.
2) It is absolutely 100% clear that Navas DID influence the situation, he scored a f-ing goal one second later.
3) Since an offside is defined at the moment of touching the ball it doesn't even matter if the pass was for Iniesta or not. If Navas was 20 meters away on the right flank - yeah, that would be irrelevant to the goal and no advantage gained whatsoever. But we've all seen what he did.
2012-06-19 00:16:29
omg
if he was in passive offside earlier, he can't play further? omg? he was on side when Iniesta gave him ball...
if he was in passive offside earlier, he can't play further? omg? he was on side when Iniesta gave him ball...
2012-06-19 02:41:09
lol, somebody deleted your heated post ). Anyway, I've got nothing against Spain going through, but Croatia went out exactly because of that goal. Italy scored only 2 against Ireland and that meant Croatia would finish second because they scored more goals. IMO they deserved to go through, they played very well. Slightly better than Italy, if you ask me.
Although... maybe it's a little bit of destiny revenge for what Dynamo Zagreb did to Ajax in CL this year.
Although... maybe it's a little bit of destiny revenge for what Dynamo Zagreb did to Ajax in CL this year.
2012-06-19 00:45:35
haha ur clueless :D
2012-06-18 23:36:16
u do realize that that iniesta on top gets the ball, you are embaressing yourself
2012-06-18 23:36:41
Wow, incredible. Are you blind? Or you just doesn't know anything about football?
2012-06-18 23:40:06
Yes because there is never obvious wrong calls by ref except when Barcelona or Spain plays. There was 2 penalties not called for Croatia, one not called for Spain and the goal was not offside. Take off your tinfoil hat.
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:27:43
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:27:43
2012-06-18 23:27:03
Not even gonna talk about Barcelona and how they get carried, everyone knows except their fans how big advantages they get by the referees. About the match..
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/556..
..Croatia should have had those penalties, but then again maybe they shouldn't? The rules seems to change all the time for what's penalty and what isn't, depends on who Platini is cheering for.
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/556..
..Croatia should have had those penalties, but then again maybe they shouldn't? The rules seems to change all the time for what's penalty and what isn't, depends on who Platini is cheering for.
2012-06-18 23:33:29
BALOTELLI / ITALIA > ALL
2012-06-18 23:26:38
Respect for Croatia they played really good , they deserved a tie or a win , its invaluable to see Spain defending 30 minutes and after one mistake of side referee it was obvious offside they lost. If Spain plays like this they will be out next round.
2012-06-18 23:27:41
The pass from Fabregas went to Iniesta (no offside), Navas was in "passive" offside, he doesn't count on that action. When Iniesta passed to Navas, Navas stayed correctly behind the ball. No offside.
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:41:31
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:41:31
2012-06-18 23:32:43
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/556..
2012-06-18 23:43:12
sorry man, no offside, only the arm of iniesta is maybe offside but that doesn't count cuz the arm can't be taken in consideration for offside. and navas has nothing to do with the pass from fabregas to iniesta. correct decision :)
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:45:35
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:45:35
2012-06-18 23:44:12
2 penalties for croatia, 1 penalty for spain + it was an offside when spain has scored http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/556..
2012-06-18 23:38:23
only his hand is offside, which means he is not because he can't touch the ball with his hand.
2012-06-18 23:43:55
Almost his whole body was over "the line".
2012-06-18 23:44:36
still talking about navas? djezes he has no influence at all on the game when fabregas passed to iniesta o_O
2012-06-18 23:46:30
iniesta received the pass, not navas.
2012-06-19 13:39:37
Navas was a part and had an impact on the situation which makes him offside.
2012-06-19 14:49:08
even his hand wasnt offside...
2012-06-19 02:34:15
the ball went to iniesta, who wasnt offside. navas got the ball from iniesta -> new situation
goal was legal
you guys all dont know the correct rules.
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:47:23
goal was legal
you guys all dont know the correct rules.
Post edited 2012-06-18 23:47:23
2012-06-18 23:46:34
they think that player who was in passive offside cant play the game further... they're so retarded as fuck
2012-06-19 02:44:39
I'm glad that Croatia is out.
Actually I'm glad that Poland and Russia are out too. Their fans are doing to much damage.
Actually I'm glad that Poland and Russia are out too. Their fans are doing to much damage.
2012-06-19 00:03:13
and who are u? your country has never been on euro or fifa so u can just f*ck off from this page and watch other nations how they play ;)
2012-06-19 00:09:22
Excuse me, but where did I mentioned that my country is better or something? I'm not talking about how team sucked, because Croatia played great, but fans, cmon...
2012-06-19 00:13:32
u can say whatever u want but we are the best fans. Will u die of 1 pyrotechnic device ?
2012-06-19 00:39:27
Yes, unfortunately it may happen. Quite some time back a kid died when a bengal fire fired from the tribune hit his chest. This boy was simply assisting to a football match together with his dad. And died at the age of 13.
To sum up, stadiums are no place for pyrotechnic devices.
Post edited 2012-06-19 01:14:54
To sum up, stadiums are no place for pyrotechnic devices.
Post edited 2012-06-19 01:14:54
2012-06-19 01:14:05
Those "fans" weren't there to watch football they just came to fight and do problems(do you really think we are proud of that?),besides you can't blame a whole nation because of few idiots
Post edited 2012-06-21 04:23:14
Post edited 2012-06-21 04:23:14
2012-06-21 04:21:27
sad for Croatia. it was offside, imo.
2012-06-19 00:54:27
No it wasn't ....
2012-06-19 02:56:21
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/556..
on this picture.. this isnt the right angle... Iniesta is ON SIDE...
its obvious if you look on the field..
on this picture.. this isnt the right angle... Iniesta is ON SIDE...
its obvious if you look on the field..
2012-06-19 02:37:19
Sad for Croatia..
Greeting for "Nuestros Hermanos" congrats :) See you in Final <3
Greeting for "Nuestros Hermanos" congrats :) See you in Final <3
2012-06-19 02:47:56
Croatia wants challenge :]
2012-06-19 12:40:19
3 - 1 for spain
2012-06-19 12:43:26
Modric <33333
2012-06-19 18:01:53
The thing I wonder about is, so many referees nowadays and still the same problems as usual.
Technology in football now!
Technology in football now!
2012-06-19 18:11:39
Would you like a 2-3 min break after every foul so that the ref can watch the scene on screen? That would fuckin destroy the game, football would look like american football.. there must be an other solution.
2012-06-19 18:23:46
Football's perfect. No more changes.
2012-06-19 18:28:20
Obviously things will have to be thought through but what I mean to say is that the new solution does not work.
If you ask me I would even remove the refrees from the field (or just use them as 'transmitters') and do it all "remotely" (it is even tempting to use de_aztec lightning as punishment but you will agree that it would be cool, yes, but not that nice for the 'convict').
There was a Super Bowl some time back where there were thousand of cameras used to give an insight from any imaginable angle of a given play. Sure it is costy but I presume that is where this kind of things should head to.
If you ask me I would even remove the refrees from the field (or just use them as 'transmitters') and do it all "remotely" (it is even tempting to use de_aztec lightning as punishment but you will agree that it would be cool, yes, but not that nice for the 'convict').
There was a Super Bowl some time back where there were thousand of cameras used to give an insight from any imaginable angle of a given play. Sure it is costy but I presume that is where this kind of things should head to.
2012-06-19 18:31:22
Technology in football would suck. It's obvious you were never a football player (don't get offended)
2012-06-19 18:27:58
Well, taking into account your #201 considering football already perfect, I am sorry to tell you that you are wrong.
And not only it is not perfect during a match, just see f.e. the controversial plays in this very match, but it also has costly consequences due to it's imperfection.
I presume you are one of the persons that think that controversy is part of the essence of the sport but, as stated above, for it is at a too high cost to keep that 'essence'.
Finally, in order to think what I have just posted one does not necessarily have to be a football player. Supporters or simple viewers have too the right to speak their mind, not only the 'professional' ones ;)
And not only it is not perfect during a match, just see f.e. the controversial plays in this very match, but it also has costly consequences due to it's imperfection.
I presume you are one of the persons that think that controversy is part of the essence of the sport but, as stated above, for it is at a too high cost to keep that 'essence'.
Finally, in order to think what I have just posted one does not necessarily have to be a football player. Supporters or simple viewers have too the right to speak their mind, not only the 'professional' ones ;)
2012-06-19 18:36:34
Read. #205!
2012-06-19 18:41:40
Wrong decisions are part of the game. Just as the upset about the referee. This makes football into what it is. Nothing should be changed!
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Post edited 2012-06-19 18:45:54
2012-06-19 18:45:28
See #204 and #211 on the 'part of the game' point of view.
And on the basis of these, yes, football should be changed in that very aspect.
And on the basis of these, yes, football should be changed in that very aspect.
2012-06-19 18:54:27
the referee could use an iPad ahaha
2012-06-19 18:58:59
Hopefully with its 'Games' removed ;)
But it is an interesting approach.
But it is an interesting approach.
2012-06-19 19:03:19
No I don't say that you don't have the right to speak. But these mistakes are part of the game! So you would like the time to be as basketball so the players could not delay? I say that if this would happen it would suck!
You can't understand me if you don't play football for real. It's part of the strategy of each team. Dirty playing is also part of it.
You can't understand me if you don't play football for real. It's part of the strategy of each team. Dirty playing is also part of it.
2012-06-19 18:40:55
That 'part of the game' has been added externally from the game and people think it has always been like that. And it has been not.
You are telling me that it is perfectly ok for players to encourage others and themselves to play fair but being unfair and using dirty tricks is what actually matters? As said, at the beginning of this reply (and part of my previous message), no it is not. Football players are usually defenders of a weird set of self-proclaimed rules (what happens on the field, stays on the field etc.) and, as far as I see it, football is by far less professional than it should be.
You may say, well, it is just a match but that match can mean for one or several teams to lose loads of money (descending category or even disappearing as a club), for others to lose their jobs in these teams etc.
You are telling me that it is perfectly ok for players to encourage others and themselves to play fair but being unfair and using dirty tricks is what actually matters? As said, at the beginning of this reply (and part of my previous message), no it is not. Football players are usually defenders of a weird set of self-proclaimed rules (what happens on the field, stays on the field etc.) and, as far as I see it, football is by far less professional than it should be.
You may say, well, it is just a match but that match can mean for one or several teams to lose loads of money (descending category or even disappearing as a club), for others to lose their jobs in these teams etc.
2012-06-19 18:51:54
if you want it.. u need to do it for some reasons by yourself.. but you dont..
2012-06-20 05:01:45
What exactly do I need to do 'for some reasons by yourself' but I am not doing?
2012-06-21 23:41:20
Can you open another Thread so we can discus there, to not spam here?!
2012-06-21 23:43:30
came here to ask why you close portugal vs Czech republic thread and all others stay open?
2012-06-22 02:36:23
modric was motm...
2012-06-22 02:59:43
Still can't forget this match... I like Stark's biography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Stark
During 2012 UEFA European Championship, in Poland, Wolfgang Stark was again at the center of controversy, as he failed to signal what were considered to be one or two clear penalties for Croatia in the match against Spain, both by Croatian players[9], international media[10] and experts[11], including prominent Spanish media[12], one of which was in the dying minutes of the match, just before Spain scored their sole, winning goal. This result eliminated Croatia, while a Croatia victory would result in Spain being eliminated.
During 2012 UEFA European Championship, in Poland, Wolfgang Stark was again at the center of controversy, as he failed to signal what were considered to be one or two clear penalties for Croatia in the match against Spain, both by Croatian players[9], international media[10] and experts[11], including prominent Spanish media[12], one of which was in the dying minutes of the match, just before Spain scored their sole, winning goal. This result eliminated Croatia, while a Croatia victory would result in Spain being eliminated.
2012-09-23 11:37:03
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