Trace or delpan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elWNNXoorcA

U Choose =D
(153 replies)
Created 2012-07-19 18:02 by: patRick-
TRACE !!!
2012-07-19 18:05:44
depan
2012-07-19 18:07:12
markeloff
2012-07-19 18:07:33
+9999999999999999999999999
2012-07-19 19:16:23
+1
2012-07-19 19:39:56
Delpan atm better with awp.
and trace riffler. and he much better than markeloff with riffles and pistols...
2012-07-19 20:19:26
ok :(
2012-07-19 20:21:45
Faszika>all
2012-09-29 09:31:10
ahahahaahahahaaha thats why markeloff top1 awp of last event? xDDD
2012-07-19 23:05:07
that doesn't really mean anything
2012-07-20 20:24:00
he was always top1 awp... i can only remember delpan top1 awp at like 5 tournaments from 2010 till now.
2012-07-20 22:48:41
Friis was top player from dreamhack , so is he the best player in the world? Nope.
2012-07-21 00:04:18
cool story, bro!
2012-07-20 16:58:47
+1
2012-07-19 21:33:55
by: pgz
#111
fuck ur life dude
2012-07-20 10:50:43
+1 markeloff > all
2012-07-20 16:58:36
friis is the top1 awp of 2012, all other storys are like crying the world another ocean.

top1 awp 2010= markel

top1 awp 2011= Delpan

top1 awp 2012= friis




face it, deal with it, live with it
2012-09-29 04:41:11
trace of course...
2012-07-19 18:09:20
trace riffle, delpan awp
end of fucking discussion
2012-07-19 18:32:55
trace is the best allround player in the world
Delpan is one of the best snipers in the world

Post edited 2012-07-19 18:42:03
2012-07-19 18:34:44
I would say trace :)
if trace practice awp, he could be better than Delpan
but
if Delpan practice riffle he can't be better than trace
2012-07-19 18:40:52
LOLOLOL cool story bro, did you see the video?
awp for delpan is like m4 for get right
2012-07-19 19:12:01
yea, but those are the best moments of him, which if u watched all games of SK, you would have seen that those frags are rare ingame.. trace is always a constant player with m4 and even with awp

Post edited 2012-07-19 19:18:06
2012-07-19 19:17:47
+1
2012-07-19 19:40:14
LOLOLOL those are the best movements of both, and you see more delpan highlights than trace ones so... btw the cs 1.6 competitive scene is already dead so you arent expecting new highlights like before...
2012-07-19 19:45:24
I agree with you, and I'm not expecting new highlights from them, dunno how u consider that. if u want I give u the reason that Delpan have more highlights: it's because killing with awp it's easier than m4 :) 1hit/dead.. and u see Delpan kills only on long range maps.. so they can have a chance to win the game :D
2012-07-19 19:52:21
LOLOLOL If it was so easy to kill with awp every player would use it... and he plays with awp in all maps i dont know why are you talking about in "long range maps"

Post edited 2012-07-19 20:17:09
2012-07-19 20:09:26
of course, he plays awp in all maps because that is all he knows:) he got aim but only with Scope :) i don't deny this.. it's just a fact.. he pracctice only awp, that is all he can do
2012-07-19 21:07:05
so you actually think delpan is better than trace because he has more highlights? FACEPALM

I prefer a player who kills 1/2 players per round than one that does an ace and doesnt kill the rest of the match.

Trace is stable with every weapon, delpan isnt.
2012-07-19 19:56:59
cmon be realistic man delpan awp> trace. JUST see 0:36, 0:50, 2:00, 3:20, 3:39 he is just impressive with is awp.


but i can agree with you that trace is way better than delpan in riffles. END OF HISTORY--

Post edited 2012-07-19 20:16:36
2012-07-19 20:16:15
Like i said, he is better because of some highlights? LOL

Lets do this in a simple equation:

AWP

Delpan >= Trace

Rifles

Trace>>>>>>>>>>>>>Delpan

Trace wins. "END OF HISTORY" =|
2012-07-19 20:54:27
trace wins cause of his rifles skills? cool story
2012-07-19 21:09:17
not, cause glock,usp, m4a1, ak-47, deagle, famas, galil skills, not only awp, that he is very impressive too
2012-07-19 21:31:15
lool delpan usp> trace usp
trace awp is not so impressive


but yeah trace > delpan in rifles
2012-07-19 22:02:02
I hope you're kidding or you're fcking clueless.

trace has one of the best usp's of the current 1.6 players.
2012-07-19 23:01:57
yeh? show me a video of his usp skills pls
2012-07-20 09:50:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYo7OfwXLIo

here it is,highlight lover
2012-07-20 16:08:24
that's why SK were dropping usp to trace all the time
2012-07-20 00:08:59
trace >> delpan all weapons
2012-07-20 01:11:24
c00l story, just see the video retard, delpan owns him just with one hand
2012-07-20 09:52:01
delpan owns xisco, nothing more
trace player top3 world

noobpan inconsistent
2012-07-20 10:01:01
did you see the video?
trace player top3 where? in his city?
f0rest,neo,gtr,mark,moddi,edward,karrigan,n0thing>trace
2012-07-20 10:17:50
just wait for stats in the end of the year,no more word, you look retarded
2012-07-20 10:20:08
ofc no words, kids have no arguments to talk
2012-07-20 10:25:36
standard 16 years old portuguese shithead. You think everybody here is younger than you? You're the one who's called kid here.

Post edited 2012-07-20 10:42:05
2012-07-20 10:41:00
yeh, thats why you cant secure your words and arguments and call names to other people
2012-07-20 10:46:44
it's hard talk with portuguese about CS
atm just gtr,neo,moddi >> trace
overral delpan is top25/30 player, in awp top3/4
2012-07-20 19:26:56
You are basing only on that fucking video? are you retarded or what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5knRq8kQ0s
gtfo

Post edited 2012-09-29 06:50:10
2012-09-29 06:49:02
damn, how old are you?
2012-09-29 09:35:24
yeah and HE kills trace is better >.< fanboy ;(
2012-07-20 13:13:10
yes he does. You prefer a player who can play with all weapons (trace) or a player who can only play with awp (delpan) ?

Stop being a fanboy and admit it, trace >> delpan, ANY DAY. Besides, lets not talk about the consistency LOL.
2012-07-19 22:45:05
dont be a retard man, foxj just can play almost with his awp and you guys say all the time that foxj>all and whatever...
2012-07-20 09:50:15
same goes for delpan, he can play only with AWP. nothing else. while trace can play with EVERYTHING. its fukin obvious that trace >>>>>>> delpan all the way

Post edited 2012-09-29 09:37:43
2012-09-29 09:37:15
trace.
2012-07-19 18:43:35
trace
2012-07-19 18:44:09
trace is more complete than Delpan
I would prefer trace in my team instead Delpan
2012-07-19 18:45:21
delpan ofc
2012-07-19 18:52:22
trace
2012-07-19 18:57:04
Trace its better why?

delpan very good awp, but so bad rifler.
trace good awp, but better rifler.
2012-07-19 19:02:55
trace good awp, sick rifler and consistent
delpan very good awp, bad rifler and inconsistent
2012-07-19 21:32:56
Trace [p/a/j/a/c/e]
2012-07-19 19:06:09
delpan
2012-07-19 19:12:18
trace
2012-07-19 19:18:49
trace is more stabil that delpan.
2012-07-19 19:33:49
trace is much better.
2012-07-19 19:41:17
tRRRRace
2012-07-19 19:41:59
trace dudes!
2012-07-19 19:47:09
delpan
2012-07-19 19:49:00
both are great, but i will go with trace
2012-07-19 19:51:05
stop stupid topic . .. trace in fnatic; delpan in sk. OVER . . omg trace god player and delpan god player . . -.-
2012-07-19 19:53:22
diferents styles, wtf...
2012-07-19 20:03:00
who is delpan? Trace ofc
2012-07-19 20:05:05
Delpan<3
2012-07-19 20:10:41
ecart !
2012-07-19 20:19:15
fR11$HA > Delpan
fnatic > SK Gaming
2012-07-19 20:20:24
not really
2012-07-19 22:02:54
we saw it last tournament trololol. fnatic 2strong for SK
2012-07-19 22:49:34
by: nsis
#44
trace, every single time.
2012-07-19 20:20:38
Delpan ofc !!!!!!!!!!!!!
2012-07-19 20:24:54
silly comparison
trace ofc
2012-07-19 20:26:45
TRACE
2012-07-19 20:36:00
trace'11-.-
2012-07-19 20:36:45
delpan
2012-07-19 20:43:05
+1
2012-07-19 21:07:15
trace, easily
2012-07-19 21:16:11
traceee
2012-07-19 21:32:27
trace
2012-07-19 21:33:53
waiting for SK vs Fnatic lan bo3 match
2012-07-19 21:34:23
will be a historic game!
2012-07-19 22:21:26
by: r32
#64
delpan isn't very high over trace in awp

but


trace is over delpan with rifles
2012-07-19 21:35:31
Trace best rifle in cs
2012-07-19 22:24:17
-1
2012-07-19 23:20:46
So original thread-.-''

Delpan AWP > Trace
2012-07-19 22:24:17
trace is "universal" player. He is one of the best rifles and is quite good with AWP, while Delpan only is good with AWP. So:

awp - Delpan > trace
rifles - trace > Delpan
overall - trace > Delpan

Post edited 2012-07-19 23:08:04
2012-07-19 23:07:33
My grandmother!
2012-07-19 23:07:56
trace
2012-07-19 23:22:06
ONE OF THE BEST MOVE ABOUT CS WHAT I HAVE WATCH FOR VIDEO U HAVE 10/10 :s

and i will pick up Delpan :D

but i think that u can't compare this 2 cuz delpan very good awp medium rifles . trace high rifles medium awp so is 50/50 :D
2012-07-19 23:40:26
Delpan>>>>>>>>>>trace
2012-07-20 00:10:44
trace of course

trace the best player actually
2012-07-20 00:17:59
Delpan
2012-07-20 01:14:58
trace
2012-07-20 01:26:12
Trace is better rifler but i like Delpan more then trace ..
So my choice is DELPAN ..
He is type of player who always can make the advantage ;]
2012-07-20 01:56:31
and trace is the type that always make the disadvantage, kewl
2012-07-20 09:42:16
I didn't say that ;]
If i have choice for my team i always pick Delpan before trace ..
That's just my opinion ..
2012-07-20 15:57:25
Delpan awp.. Trace ak/m4
2012-07-20 01:58:34
DELPAN Best of Kingsssssssssssssssssssssss
2012-07-20 02:45:07
karrigan xD

Post edited 2012-07-20 03:03:37
2012-07-20 03:03:24
neo :D
2012-07-20 03:54:45
vamolisarb is true...

neo :D
2012-07-20 07:15:24
trace but cs 1.6 dead :(
2012-07-20 03:12:17
2 different players
2012-07-20 03:25:34
trace
2012-07-20 05:03:48
trace
2012-07-20 05:30:49
trace
2012-07-20 06:34:52
trace without any doubts
2012-07-20 10:16:09
Friiswow~!
2012-07-20 10:28:24
lolpan
cause trace ruine teams
2012-07-20 10:34:55
trace delpan
tr_lpan
2012-07-20 11:16:27
will people please explain why they believe "player #1" is better than "player #2" instead of just saying "baah trace is just better overall"

When we are allowed to make these threats then argue it with a little bit of sense, instead of two 12 year olds discussing if chocolate or strawberry yoghurt is best.

Make Arguements on why Trace is better overall, explain why Delpan is the best Awp'er, Statistics from events, 1. places, mvp candidates.

ps. i'm writing this to get these threats to be more Logical, so we can have good discussions instead of "Lol +1 Trace best cuz he rules"

- thanks

Post edited 2012-07-20 11:18:50
2012-07-20 11:18:41
You do know this is hltv.org, right? It pretty much IS a bunch of 12 year old picking their favorite ice cream like it always is in these kind of threads.

I personally think trace is the better one. Why? Well, i'm probably biased as fuck (look at my flag), but looking at the stats-page will say the same thing. They've played roughly the same number of maps (trace:462 delpan:421) and trace take the rating lead by 1.21 while delpan "only" got 1.15.
Since they both have played most of their games in high-level teams my guess would be they have played against about the same number of good and bad teams, but what is important is their current form. Luckily hltv got event ratings tracker as well. Looking at the last events they played i'd say Trace takes that one too (not having below 1.00 rating in the last 16 events, while that happened 6 times to Delpan).
Now who was better in SK? Since they played for the same team that should be the best place to compare them. Sadly there's not a lot of data from trace since he only played in 3 tournament with them, but lets compare them anyway.
Trace got an average 1.29 rating in his time in SK
Delpan got an average 1.087 rating in his last 10 games in SK

I know all the fanboys are gonna say "Delpan pick up important kills and win important rounds" and i don't know if that's true, but for me it's more important to be consistent and it looks like there's not a lot of players as consistent as Trace.

Even with those stats i still think Delpan is a better awp'er, but then again 40% of his kills is with the green one, while trace mostly uses riffles (not sure if it's possible to get stats when using a specific weapon, but don't think so).

I know SK didn't pick up any tournament wins with trace in the roster, but i'm gonna blame that on the other teams playing well/rest of SK not playing up to their usual standard when trace was there.. I am biased after all :)
2012-07-20 12:23:22
Press "Weapon Statistics" under the specified player & you'll see his overall Weapon Stats. If you want stats from a certain event, then go to the event & search the players stats by that event, and see his weapon stats.

http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=177&playerid=58&am.. (overall from trace)
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=177&playerid=58&am.. (trace in 3rd Generation by IO)
2012-07-20 15:26:58
Yes found that :) Used that for finding out how much they use awp compared to the other weapons. Was thinking more in a way to see their rating when using a specific weapon. I would imagine Delpan had a higher rating when using awp than when using riffles for example, but those data would probably be hard to track.
2012-07-21 01:04:57
For the sake of the comment above me, I'll say trace.
2012-07-20 11:44:45
Trace is way better.
2012-07-20 13:01:31
trace 100%
2012-07-20 13:06:54
trace
2012-07-20 13:07:03
ofc Trace
2012-07-20 13:08:39
trace,, because he can use riffles and pistols better than delpan..
delpan without awp just sucks :S
2012-07-20 13:13:02
trace
2012-07-20 13:24:34
KARRiGAN > trace
2012-07-20 13:30:17
Delpan
2012-07-20 14:08:37
trace is a better overall player, delpan is just a better fit for SK.
2012-07-20 14:43:43
DELPAN!<>
2012-07-20 15:06:41
Delpan GOGOGO
2012-07-20 16:13:07
TRACE, better rifler ur not awp'in all match
2012-07-20 16:22:54
FALLEN >ALL
2012-07-20 16:23:08
Delpan obviously
2012-07-20 19:43:36
in a counter strike team every single player got is own job...
i mean leader awper... you know
so from that point of view delpan is better for sk then trace
the comparing should be Delpan + f0rest or get_right vs Friis + trace
and the answer now is so obvious ... every leader want in his side trace + friis ;)
2012-07-20 22:04:09
I'd go with Delpan+GTR/f0rest anyday in that comparison but thats just my opinion and I respect yours.
2012-09-29 03:25:51
Delpan !
2012-07-20 22:56:00
traceFFFFF
2012-07-21 00:31:55
depish > all
2012-09-29 01:20:13
trace
2012-09-29 02:45:13
i am the best!
2012-09-29 02:54:30
AWP Delpan > trace
Rifles trace > Delpan

but overall Delpan.. I must say though im not a fan of him.
2012-09-29 03:13:34
"overall delpan"

hhahaha nice joke
2012-09-29 03:18:14
well thats just my opinion. good god theres a lot of immature users on this forum that I cannot understand at all.
2012-09-29 03:24:37
delpan is only better than the trace in awp, and you say "overall" delpan. Oo
2012-09-29 03:45:00
well he has the bigger impact since he plays more awp than trace in his teams. and if they both play the same amount the awp usually makes or breaks the win and delpan overrules trace on that weapon. Also I like delpan's approach on how to play the game & timings. just did not have the motivation to write all this shit and more to the original post.
2012-09-29 04:47:33
that Delpan vs Ukraine scope effect at the beginning has to be my all time favorite effect by far! so simple but..
2012-09-29 03:16:25
Trace easily, a top5 1.6 player for the past 3-4 years, and is good with every weapon..Trace can be your madfragger with rifles, primary awper, secondary awper..he is one of the Best(if not the most)overall players in CS history

just my imo, flame away
2012-09-29 05:00:27
trace :D
2012-09-29 05:26:14
WORTH ANOTHER TOPIC. NOT
2012-09-29 08:23:10
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