fnatic
Do you guys think fnatic now has the best lineup ever,better than it was f0rest,gtr,dsn,gux etc..
(137 replies)
Created 2012-07-28 23:38 by: -RoWiGeN-
no
2012-07-28 23:39:37
yes
2012-07-29 09:48:16
yes
2012-07-29 15:00:29
no
2012-07-29 20:24:15
yes
2012-07-30 11:42:51
no
2012-07-30 00:13:23
yes
2012-07-30 11:17:27
WHAT?
2012-07-30 18:49:58
no
2012-07-28 23:40:43
by: dbie - <3 DTS
#3
on paper prolly but I think fnatic 2009 had much more options with dsn and cArn supporting Gux, GTR and f0rest.

CS has changed a lot the last couple of years thanks to Na'Vi, so its hard to tell.
2012-07-28 23:41:51
+1, totally agree
2012-07-29 10:52:42
why thanks to navi?
2012-07-29 22:09:25
they destroyed everyone in 2010 with their tactics and reading skills, now almost every team plays with the things they revolutionized in 2010 such as pop flashing, fast rotations, strong support from ceh9 and zeus, etc. they took reading to a whole new lever tbh, if SK and fnatic did not mixed their teams we could still be seeing Na'Vi on top of the scene.

Post edited 2012-07-29 22:26:26
2012-07-29 22:25:18
+1
2012-07-30 00:09:04
u are wrong.
2012-07-30 00:15:25
and why is that? :D
2012-07-30 00:17:21
things such as pop-flash ,enemy reading,and counter flashes,are much older than navi's creation.
2012-07-30 00:25:55
of course, but navi used them a lot more and on different ways in 2010 for example it was common of them to push, smoke, kills/force the backup and retreat slowly as Ts, that is now what top teams expect from them and makes them predictable, the same happened with other dominant teams like 2008's mTw and 2009's fnatic, every dominant team had a strength, Na'Vi took everything to a whole another level with their comunication and teamplay.

To me Na'Vi excelled on support their stars, starix, ceh9 and zeus played to make edward and markeloff kill everyone and they succeed flawlessly on every major in 2010 but things change and they have to adapt as the other teams do.

Post edited 2012-07-30 00:33:36
2012-07-30 00:30:08
i dont see it that way,im not a hator nor a mad fanboy,but in my opinion is one of the TOP teams EVER ,but the one that gave less to its audience.
2012-07-30 00:41:50
I didn't liked either through 2010, lmao. I raged a lot cuz the poles were struggling and even mTw was getting raped by Na'Vi. After I started watching their demos they became one of my favourite teams, hell, I was mad crazy about the entire ukranian scene, so many good players around.

Post edited 2012-07-30 00:53:19
2012-07-30 00:52:40
true about the ukraine talents;p
2012-07-30 02:09:34
i think you are giving navi too much credit lol, you are glorifying them bc they were the top team in 2010, almost unbeatable. However there have been 3-4 other teams that have been the same way by using the same tactics that navi used, but they used the tactics before navi. Navi had a tremendous year bc the chemistry was flowing incredibly with their team, and they were extremely motivated. Now all that is gone and they are struggling. They didnt change anything about the game imo.
2012-07-30 10:40:50
its not just about strats, its about reactionary play and adapt to what the opponent does. they really changed the way CS is played.
2012-07-30 16:30:55
NEVERNEVERNEVERNEVERNEVERNEVER
2012-07-28 23:42:39
Hard to say
2012-07-29 00:27:54
+1

dsn vs friis karrigan trace (3 great snipers)
Xiz vs cArn (Xizt make x3 more frags; and he mby best aimer)
2012-07-29 00:30:32
friis is the best awp of fnatic for a large way.
2012-07-29 00:32:33
stop trolish !
2012-07-29 20:09:34
LOL? trolish? Do you understand a shit about cs?

And what is trolish? Sorry for my unknowing.

Post edited 2012-07-29 20:57:21
2012-07-29 20:56:29
"Do you understand a shit about cs?"

ive started play this game on 1999, so stop saying bullshit about my time in-game, all nerds uses this argument and for me this is the worst argument ever
2012-07-29 23:50:23
So you play since 1999. For you what is the best awp of fnatic?
Give your opinion .
2012-07-29 23:51:31
im bound ?
2012-07-29 23:58:46
just to remember you...

fnatic had DSN and DELPAN recently...
TRACE today

and XEQTR old times...

just examples... have more, but friis isnt the best awp of fnatic...
2012-07-30 07:09:55
LOL Friis is the best awp of fnatic in actuality. Because all times for me is Delpan.

But now i understand what is your thinking.
2012-07-30 16:03:41
As far as I know, xeqtr never played in fnatic
2012-07-30 18:48:46
one tournament CPL summer i think he was temp
2012-07-30 19:02:56
on the first line up xeqtr played !

Megaton, solido, Magix, XeqtR and diGitaL
2012-07-31 04:34:36
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking aswell :P
2012-07-29 00:41:38
"Yeah, that's what I'm thinking aswell :P"

wtf retard???
2012-07-29 08:56:10
Quit the trolling kiddo~ That is perfect English right there :)
2012-07-30 00:11:27
+1
2012-07-29 00:32:14
do you think this is the stupidest thread ever?

no, but i think its one of the stupidest.
2012-07-29 00:33:05
NO.
2012-07-29 06:26:25
For me f0rest in fnatic was the best player EVER :)
2012-07-29 06:30:21
+1
2012-07-29 12:49:48
+111111
2012-07-29 21:24:53
+1
2012-07-30 11:55:03
they need forest to be the best!
2012-07-29 06:39:16
by: wrd-
#32
with f0rest top 3-4
2012-07-29 11:17:31
Forest top player for any team!
2012-07-29 23:13:55
no.
2012-07-29 07:14:18
mouz|karrigan fnaticRC karrigan > Friis awp
2012-07-29 08:59:01
no
gtr>moddi
dsn>friis
gux>karrigan
carn>xizt
but
trace>f0rest
2012-07-29 09:02:01
by: pgb1
#33
are you mad bro?

trace is renault and forest is ferrari
2012-07-29 11:18:48
hahahaha love your comparison :D
2012-07-29 12:42:29
trace > forest

any day
2012-07-29 12:42:31
no way haha thats why f0rest beat him 1v1 right :{{{{ ?
2012-07-30 16:06:21
You're the one who said trace is too deffensive to win an event,right? Well,you just got owned
2012-07-29 12:44:09
Renault has actually really good cars, so..
2012-07-29 17:31:23
Renault Laguna Break III is an example. So... Maybe Trace > f0rest...
2012-07-29 21:01:54
I would say Renault Mégane RS :3
2012-07-29 21:21:38
For velocity Yes but Laguna Break for luxury :)
2012-07-29 23:45:23
another f0rest fan =(
f0rest too overrated
gtr,neo,trace>>>>>f0rest
2012-07-29 20:04:01
moddii>gtr
friis>dsn
karrigan>gux
xizt>>>>>>>carn
trance<f0rest
2012-07-29 12:46:15
u retard or what -.- ?

gtr any day >> moddi
friss > dsn
karrigan > gux
carn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XIZT
and forest > trace for sure !!
2012-07-29 16:29:58
carn > xizt? as igl maybe, xizt still a madfragger as igl
asl pls bro
gtr > moddii? never

Post edited 2012-07-29 17:34:31
2012-07-29 17:31:47
gtr> moddi never ? AHAHAH anyday man
2012-07-30 16:07:29
Friis please.
2012-07-29 20:58:23
I don't know, it's really hard to say, I think that this team is better on T side , but weaker on CT side than the @2009 , maybe because Dsn.. but we have to wait another tournament to make a better analysis

Post edited 2012-07-29 09:19:36
2012-07-29 09:19:05
it's really hard to say, friis has improved a lot and from the moment karrigan replaced cArn, fnatic has been on a rampage. Still I believe that fnatic would not be in this situation if it wasn't for MODDII.
2012-07-29 09:28:53
no
2012-07-29 09:57:07
by: jiG^
#23
Yes
2012-07-29 10:42:32
yes
2012-07-29 10:50:12
yes
2012-07-29 10:52:12
No.
2012-07-29 10:56:27
never
2012-07-29 11:07:37
maybe. They all had times to shine...Today you might be the best player , tomorrow the worse etc.
2012-07-29 11:10:17
yes
2012-07-29 11:15:55
Best line-up was 1.f0rest
2.GeT_RiGhT
3.cArn
4.Gux
5.dsn
2012-07-29 11:59:09
Not really. You obviously didn't watch Gamegune 2012
2012-07-29 12:41:04
And you obviously are still too wet behind the ears to make a propper judgement.
2012-07-29 13:00:34
Not really
2012-07-29 14:55:48
It's hard to know. But i understand your point of view. But i like this new team.

Fnatic with
1-f0rest
2-get_right
3-Friis
4-Xizt/karrigan/moddii
5-cArn

So much better

Post edited 2012-07-29 21:04:03
2012-07-29 21:03:35
1.f0rest
2.GET_RIGH
3.trace
4.karrigan/moddi
5.carn
2012-07-29 16:31:06
You can't say nothing about this lineup after just one tournament, nabs.
2012-07-29 12:33:00
yes most skilled guys of denmark and sweden, deffinitely best line up ever
2012-07-29 12:39:23
+1
true story
2012-07-29 12:48:09
2007 and 2009 fnatic were best
gtr forest dsn archie ins
2012-07-29 12:42:16
Just a better in game leader.
2012-07-29 12:44:29
by: ZaeL
#58
LOLOLOLOL
2012-07-29 12:53:09
What can you expect from a team with 3 best danish players, the most shooting IGL that was taught by cArn and human aimbot in face of moddii
2012-07-29 12:47:16
carn dsn f0rest archi ins
2012-07-29 12:51:00
By far the best lineup fnatic ever had.
2012-07-29 13:01:04
oh really?LOL just because they are "older" than the mad trio?
2012-07-29 17:24:38
No, better and more succesful.
2012-07-29 18:24:28
If cs doesn't die soon this team will be legendary
2012-07-29 13:00:35
No.
2012-07-29 15:10:04
50/50 at the moment. There is 1 dh event left and perhaps another so todays fnatic can challenge old fnatic some more. Gux left recently so... Yea I think he is fnatic second best player of all time with respect to cArn and dsn. Gux is simply amazing and perhaps the best entry fragger ever. He was totally underestimated in 2009. In fact he was their most important player. His short time in SK convinced the world what a great player he is. Easily the best player of SK.

Anyone saw allen how he faded away? Lol
2012-07-29 16:47:34
i would really like to see a show match beetwen old fnatic (get_right, forest, carn, gux, dsn) versus atm fnatic (karrigan, trace, xizt, moddii, friis). would be really great match.
2012-07-29 16:56:50
Carn tactics vs Xizt (carn) Tactics!

Fnatic 2012 > fnatic 2009

Cs 1.6 2012 > Cs 2009

More tactics!
2012-07-30 00:05:45
cärn tactics > xizt tactics
xizt skills > cärn skills
fnatic 2012 = fnatic 2009
2012-07-30 03:23:15
no by far
2012-07-29 17:24:17
no
2012-07-29 17:30:17
no
2012-07-29 20:10:44
you cant compare this!
2012-07-29 21:05:35
Hard to say. I want to see 2012 fnatic vs 2009's teams like mouz, mTw, AGAiN, SK, but it's never gonna happen. fnatic owning 2012 CS year but there is no more teams left. Just tired Na`Vi and ESC
2012-07-29 21:27:38
There is only one way to settle this.

This lineup doesn't have in common any of the players from back then (forest, get_right, dsn, gux, carn), so they should make some exhibition match, just for the lulz :))
2012-07-29 21:33:52
no best fnatic is 2009 dsn , gux , gtr , cArn , f0rest

but 2012 line-up is so strong with new talents
2012-07-29 22:05:36
yes
2012-07-29 23:14:25
no
2012-07-29 23:52:24
f0rest
tentpole
carn
Dsn
arch1
2012-07-30 00:22:01
i like Fnatic 2012, but Fnatic 2009 was stronger, they dominate the cs world
2012-07-30 00:37:42
f0rest gtr xizt gux moddii


dream team <3
2012-07-30 01:47:47
no sniper there and three in the current one
2012-07-30 02:12:24
ins,f0rest,archi,dsn and carn.Best of all times
2012-07-30 01:52:54
cs 2012 is dead in 2009 not... actually fnatic/esc/navi plays vs nobody
2012-07-30 02:07:51
yes they are, but it's really big different 2009 than 2012
2012-07-30 02:14:46
no
2012-07-30 09:14:12
No.
2012-07-30 10:44:54
yes
fnatic TOP1
2012-07-30 11:44:27
no
2012-07-30 12:01:52
yesh
they win 4 tourney in a row vs navi-sk-esc
FNATIC TOP1
and only
2012-07-30 12:14:01
fnatic 09 won close to everything as did Na'vi in 2010, Let's see fnatic 2012 do that and then we can talk wich they can't because there wont be that many more tournaments.
2012-07-30 20:01:59
+1, and 4 tournaments its not a stability result of team! fnatic 2k9 rape all world and won over 10+ championships!
2012-07-30 20:42:48
y
2012-07-30 12:09:09
and they didnt lose any match after CPH
2012-07-30 12:14:41
no.
2012-07-30 16:26:32
NO!
2012-07-30 18:01:59
yes
2012-07-30 18:14:53
no!
2012-07-30 18:17:50
YES
2012-07-30 18:44:40
yes
2012-07-30 18:50:02
maybe
2012-07-30 18:58:43
this thread is FUCKED UP :DDDDD
2012-07-30 20:00:00
carn f0rest gtr dsn and threat !
2012-07-30 20:40:22
yes
2012-07-30 20:44:50
MODDII
KARRIGAN
GET_RIGHT
F0REST
Delpan
~wOw~
2012-07-30 20:55:02
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