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aren't we bitching too much?
Hey guys, I'm here to say that we are probably bitching too much over CS:GO. I confirm that 1.6 is the best game ever, way better than promod, source and go all three games united. However, let's give cs:go some credit : (1) we still have hope for some adjustments (movement, crouchhop, bunnyhop); (2) we can prohibit awful new grenades just as we have done with the shield in 1.6 for competitive play; (3) competitive maps are already being designed, removing all the shitty details on maps; (4) valve will apparently fix the sound and make it more like 1.6; (5) it has more chances of reuniting both cs communities (1.6 and source) for a BETTER counter-strike competitive scene.
cant disagree with you
2012-08-08 20:25:25
you're such a big asshole (gotitwow) your profile says that you have 42 years old, so man! you know about this! how a game like cs:go? CAN'T EVER BE BEST THAN 1.5 NEVEEERR be better. so... 1.6 4eva
2012-08-09 23:43:13
(2) is a good point
2012-08-08 20:27:30
we can also try to have the exact same maps as 1.6 for competitive play :D like de_dust2_1.6 etc
2012-08-08 20:33:56
+1
2012-08-08 20:37:01
+1
2012-08-08 21:15:07
lol stupid idea. this is why kids shouldn't be allowed to think. you think making a 1:1 copy of d2 from 1.6 will make this dumb game even more competitive? think about long A and how wide the lanes are. you think you can be able to juke around and trick an awper or someone with a rifle who is shooting from A bomb site? cs:go's movement and physics LIMIT everyone's ability to do things like that. this game is just going to turn out to be a dumb deathmatch arena, but with bombsites. no fun.
for example in quakelive, the maps aren't filled with junk, but the lanes and areas are pretty clear and open. it seems very easy to get kills. but in quakelive, you can bhop almost everywhere without losing speed and that is what makes the game hard to get kills. if quakelive have movements like cs:go, it would be the dumbest and less competitive game out there.
for example in quakelive, the maps aren't filled with junk, but the lanes and areas are pretty clear and open. it seems very easy to get kills. but in quakelive, you can bhop almost everywhere without losing speed and that is what makes the game hard to get kills. if quakelive have movements like cs:go, it would be the dumbest and less competitive game out there.
2012-08-08 21:50:02
I can't agree with you. What 1.6 players want is a map that is nice for our vision, detailed, etc. but we don't want to die because of a fucking oil barrel that is lying on the ground. We don't want junk in the maps, even if A-long has to be reconstructed or anything, I don't want unnecessary shit to block me on the map
but I have to agree with you on "this game is just going to turn out to be a dumb deathmatch arena, but with bombsites. no fun."
but I have to agree with you on "this game is just going to turn out to be a dumb deathmatch arena, but with bombsites. no fun."
2012-08-08 22:23:36
If CS:GO can be customized like 1.6, people can make a competitive version of dust2/train or what else to use for e-sports.
The same way de_forge, tuscan, mirage, cpl_mill and all the other maps were made.
The same way de_forge, tuscan, mirage, cpl_mill and all the other maps were made.
2012-08-08 23:34:20
CS:GO are not meant to replace 1.6 . I believe it is a different game.
just like source, we can(might) have 1.6 and GO in the same tournament unlike CSP which meant to replace 1.6 because CSP is the same(or at least trying to mimic as close as possible to 1.6).
so there might be CSP and CS:GO(1.6 and source) in the same tournament in the future, only with different number of spectators.
I believe GO's spectators would reach higher than CSP though.
anyone disagree?
just like source, we can(might) have 1.6 and GO in the same tournament unlike CSP which meant to replace 1.6 because CSP is the same(or at least trying to mimic as close as possible to 1.6).
so there might be CSP and CS:GO(1.6 and source) in the same tournament in the future, only with different number of spectators.
I believe GO's spectators would reach higher than CSP though.
anyone disagree?
2012-08-08 20:41:39
cs:go in the future tournaments as source also are very likely to happen, promod will be developed for another years to come so maybe not, 1.6 already this year only dropped from like 4 major tournaments so i don't think thats gonna happen
2012-08-08 20:54:25
And so is source getting dropped from the small events they have. German EPS wich was the biggest of all in CSS scene dumbed CSS. All css players change to CSGO because its the same they have np with it
2012-08-08 22:12:45
What small events? When did ESWC and esea dropped css? In all good opinion i would rather watch new updated css rather than 1.6 witch most of the players retired and only few teams left
2012-08-08 22:22:06
What small events you say? All the small events their are check youself!
ESEA never dropped CSS?
"In all good opinion i would rather watch new updated css rather than 1.6 witch most of the players retired and only few teams left"
its worse in CSS just so you know
ESEA never dropped CSS?
"In all good opinion i would rather watch new updated css rather than 1.6 witch most of the players retired and only few teams left"
its worse in CSS just so you know
2012-08-08 22:25:55
Well you bring that up about the small events so witch ones they are? In esea its all good with source and with 1.6 either. Missed ESWC for some reason. Didn't get the last sentence sorry
2012-08-08 22:31:38
he's trying to say that there are less teams in source than in 1.6
2012-08-08 22:35:56
who cares about small events? and from witch ones do source got dropped?
2012-08-08 22:37:41
was that supposed to be for me? Because it has nothing to do with what I said.
Source didn't got dropped because lots of tournaments didn't really picked it up
Source didn't got dropped because lots of tournaments didn't really picked it up
2012-08-08 22:39:53
few teams? you don't really know what you're talking about. There are thousands of teams showing up on LAN and online cups. Amateur, semi-professional, professional, I don't care, as long as they keep the game alive and kicking for the next couple years. I bet you're a CSS player.
btw, ESWC lost its huge "reputation" a couple years ago
btw, ESWC lost its huge "reputation" a couple years ago
2012-08-08 22:31:06
Didn't really read the thread but I'd like to get an answer why my thread got deleted?! About the german EPS.
2012-08-08 20:42:39
They are 99% surely making a news about it !
2012-08-08 20:44:55
if they wanted to change moviment they would had already done it,and the recoil aswell,its not that hard,the coding of the game is made for a long time (the major aspect of a game) so they wont change that
2012-08-08 20:43:33
Yep. The fact that people still think those basic things will be changed... The game is soon released and after that of course once in a while will come a little patch to remove bugs and maybe they will do like they did with source: Let the game mind its own buisness for 5 years and then for 1 year make an update once per month.
2012-08-08 20:46:56
Why bitch over CSGO? because it has shot CS in the knee. to your first crazy idea: hope for "adjustements (movement, crouchhop, bunnyhop)" They already said CSGO is not gonna be CS2 and they WONT add any of those "bugs" to the game. Second statement: I like that idea + all the awful new guns should also be prohibit. 3rd statement: Yes a few of the milk bottles and random fire and dust around the maps are removed in the _se versions of the maps. (+ VERY SMALL changes in the maps still look 99% like source and 0% like 1.6). 4th statement: ... Where the hell did you hear that? no they will not. They might "fix" the sound but they wont make it more like 1.6. 5th statement: Bigger means better? You watched too much porn i guess? I cant see why a bigger community means a better community.
do you even follow CSGO's development or are you filling us with lies?
do you even follow CSGO's development or are you filling us with lies?
2012-08-08 20:43:50
why are you so arrogant? u mad bro?
1- if you're not satisfied with the way maps are being redesigned for competitive play, design one that would satisfy us. that's the advantage we have : we can design as many as we want and WE will choose, instead of bitching.
2- "Added snd_speaker/headphone_pan_radial_weight, which applies the �GldSrc� stil cosine weighting but weighted by this float convar. this allows for 1.6 style side weighting but with the exponential center weight allowed by exponential mode."
3- yes bigger penis means better porn. bigger community, more followers, more investors, more sponsors, more tournaments, more money, more fun, more matches, more hltvs. seems logical?
Post edited 2012-08-08 20:47:36
1- if you're not satisfied with the way maps are being redesigned for competitive play, design one that would satisfy us. that's the advantage we have : we can design as many as we want and WE will choose, instead of bitching.
2- "Added snd_speaker/headphone_pan_radial_weight, which applies the �GldSrc� stil cosine weighting but weighted by this float convar. this allows for 1.6 style side weighting but with the exponential center weight allowed by exponential mode."
3- yes bigger penis means better porn. bigger community, more followers, more investors, more sponsors, more tournaments, more money, more fun, more matches, more hltvs. seems logical?
Post edited 2012-08-08 20:47:36
2012-08-08 20:47:16
Arrogant... not really? o.o MAD? YES reading threads like this can easily make me mad. I get mad when people say a lot of things that they dont know for sure. Saying it like its a fact and not actually knowing if it is or not.
1: Okok lets say i make a map identical with 1.6 version only with CSGO graphics. Lets see how many of the 999 CSGO tournements that are coming it will be played at? Im not a top ESEA invite player with influence.
2: I dont understand any of that.
3: Bigger community, more players, followers, investors, sponsors, more tournements, money, fun, matches, hltvs. "seems logical?" Yes everything except "hltvs" HLTV (the bot streaming/recording matches) wont even be used in CSGO. Yes i see what you mean. But will it be better of that reason? Yes the community might be big and there will be lots of tournements. But so what if you only think of CSGO as a decent game? Lets say i "love" 1.6 but i only "like" CSGO. Why would i just suddenly stop "bitching" about CSGO and then move right off to CSGO?! The smaller community with less tournements can be as good a community as the bigger community (1.6'ers and saucers combined)
Post edited 2012-08-08 21:04:49
1: Okok lets say i make a map identical with 1.6 version only with CSGO graphics. Lets see how many of the 999 CSGO tournements that are coming it will be played at? Im not a top ESEA invite player with influence.
2: I dont understand any of that.
3: Bigger community, more players, followers, investors, sponsors, more tournements, money, fun, matches, hltvs. "seems logical?" Yes everything except "hltvs" HLTV (the bot streaming/recording matches) wont even be used in CSGO. Yes i see what you mean. But will it be better of that reason? Yes the community might be big and there will be lots of tournements. But so what if you only think of CSGO as a decent game? Lets say i "love" 1.6 but i only "like" CSGO. Why would i just suddenly stop "bitching" about CSGO and then move right off to CSGO?! The smaller community with less tournements can be as good a community as the bigger community (1.6'ers and saucers combined)
Post edited 2012-08-08 21:04:49
2012-08-08 21:02:44
you sir do not deserve my time..
You : Where the hell did you hear that? no they will not. They might "fix" the sound but they wont make it more like 1.6.
Me : "Added snd_speaker/headphone_pan_radial_weight, which applies the �GldSrc� stil cosine weighting but weighted by this float convar. this allows for 1.6 style side weighting but with the exponential center weight allowed by exponential mode."
You : I get mad when people say a lot of things that they dont know for sure.
You : 2: I dont understand any of that.
Bascially you're a simple ignorant
You : Where the hell did you hear that? no they will not. They might "fix" the sound but they wont make it more like 1.6.
Me : "Added snd_speaker/headphone_pan_radial_weight, which applies the �GldSrc� stil cosine weighting but weighted by this float convar. this allows for 1.6 style side weighting but with the exponential center weight allowed by exponential mode."
You : I get mad when people say a lot of things that they dont know for sure.
You : 2: I dont understand any of that.
Bascially you're a simple ignorant
2012-08-08 21:04:43
You read my entire post and wrote this on 1 minute? I would like to know where you buy your reading glasses
2012-08-08 21:06:07
Because idiots can't accept that a GAME DEVELOPING company, that OWNS the Counter-Strike brand, can do whatever the fuck they feel like and make a new game with the CS label in it.
Valve doesn't care tbh, I'd bet they'll still profit.
Valve doesn't care tbh, I'd bet they'll still profit.
2012-08-08 20:49:23
By the way, I'm not sure what this means in the upcomming update.
"Updating movement values to community vetted numbers. Thanks Wombo!"
"Updating movement values to community vetted numbers. Thanks Wombo!"
2012-08-08 20:56:14
changes of sv_friction & sv_accelerate
2012-08-08 23:25:35
doesn't that mean bunnyhop or something in that way?
2012-08-08 23:44:19
Nope. The guy, wombo, has done other threads in the csgo steam forum http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.p.. talking about bunny jumps and so on, give a high ranking rep to the thread so eventually devs see there are a lot of ppl interested in that and they can add it (hopefully).
Post edited 2012-08-09 00:00:49
Post edited 2012-08-09 00:00:49
2012-08-09 00:00:15
bitching about CS:GO is a mainstream here LOL
2012-08-08 20:59:00
Its funny how people just want another Counter Strike with new graphics and all but they aren't willing to try new things that probably looked bad during beta stage, thats just says a lot of things about the community
2012-08-08 21:04:27
look guys, here's another Saucer saying the 1.6 community bitches too much
We've been hearing that since 2004, guys. We know you will play whatever crap Valve throws at you just because it has 'Counter-Strike' on its name cuz you want to call yourself a CS player so desperately.
Post edited 2012-08-08 21:10:12
We've been hearing that since 2004, guys. We know you will play whatever crap Valve throws at you just because it has 'Counter-Strike' on its name cuz you want to call yourself a CS player so desperately.
Post edited 2012-08-08 21:10:12
2012-08-08 21:05:35
TY!
YES AGREE 100%
YES AGREE 100%
2012-08-08 21:08:05
counter Strike is not just 1.6 you should deal with it or don't play it at all
Post edited 2012-08-08 21:30:17
Post edited 2012-08-08 21:30:17
2012-08-08 21:27:58
Counter-Strike is in fact CS 1.6. Sauce is CSS and Cloud-Strike is CSGO.
2012-08-08 21:59:31
well cloud-strike has a pretty good future rather than dead-strike
2012-08-08 22:17:11
if it keeps sucking I give it 2 years as the main FPS game. considering that 1.6 has been 13 years as the main FPS worldwide thats pretty lame for a sequel that doesn't offer anything new other than makeup graphics for an old (2004) engine.
Post edited 2012-08-08 22:19:47
Post edited 2012-08-08 22:19:47
2012-08-08 22:18:31
2-3 years is more than enough for cs:go especially when more and more rumors about CS 2 are getting serious. And i don't meant to write dead-strike wanted to write something like dropped from major tournaments-strike because still i will play it for fun, great game. And it was released in November 18 2003 if you're talking about the 1.6 version witch makes less than 13 years
2012-08-08 22:27:54
No, thanks.
2012-08-08 21:31:50
i'm not going to move to csgo unless it has wallbanga , good recoil , good skybox and hitbox , good movement and general gameplay
2012-08-08 21:16:34
yeah, right.
P.S. I don't care about CS:GO. Oh wait..
P.S. I don't care about CS:GO. Oh wait..
2012-08-08 22:00:57
actually, we dont like CSGO cuz its more like source, for example, graphichs and/or recoil. CS 1.6 is unique with all that, its from one side easier to play and from other even harder. I cant agree with u, cs 1.6 is what we belive in :/
2012-08-08 22:05:23
i don't give a shit, i just play counter-strike, i don't care which version it is. Still generall it's counter-strike. With some old weapons, map's and stuff.
2012-08-08 22:48:15
Same could be said about CSP though lol
2012-08-08 23:29:32
The new promised update procedure should backup your words, starting also with the 1.09 release ;)
Post edited 2012-08-09 00:44:48
Post edited 2012-08-09 00:44:48
2012-08-09 00:41:49
honnestly, between CS:GO and promod, my choice goes for promod without any doubt. however, I think cs:go has more chances of "succeeding" than csp...but that's my opinion
2012-08-09 02:57:32
Not sure why you tell me this as I don't know in which way it is related to my message. I refered to the fact of CSP competing with CS:GO in terms of delivering updates besides obviously presenting an appealing product (1.09) to the player.
2012-08-09 22:08:14
yes we are, well i dont, im really open minded atm reading as much as i can to have a clear view bout csgo
2012-08-09 00:43:13
valve stated that csgo is not meant to replace cs1.6, so its poor gameplay is nothing worth mentioning. but news of updates for the feedback of 1.6 community keep coming out, false or true, they want to make it a competitive game like 1.6 which is csp's purpose and duty, and csp has more potential in this regard.
csgo with its super high texture, cod-like crosshair， not to say recoil，movement，，，its just for casual players if think traditionally
but can anyone get used to and accept these features in a competitive fps game? if so, csgo shall win.
csgo with its super high texture, cod-like crosshair， not to say recoil，movement，，，its just for casual players if think traditionally
but can anyone get used to and accept these features in a competitive fps game? if so, csgo shall win.
2012-08-09 09:25:08
yes we are
2012-08-09 22:09:34
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