To all flamers
Hello.
I want to say to all flamers that CS:GO is our last chance to keep cs alive. You should keep praying for good, optimized, and more cs 1.6 look a like game, not flaming it and attacking with "f*ck CS:GO". GO will be played at the tournaments if you want to or not. We have to be patient and united if we want to change cs:go with valve. They can't release game which is not ready for the tournaments according to best 1.6 players. IMO, GO will be good game, just... wait.
(120 replies)
Created 2012-08-10 14:42 by: Kuz.
"cs"go isnt cs !
2012-08-10 14:44:15
You probably didn't read what I wrote.
2012-08-10 14:45:52
"CS:GO is our last chance to keep cs alive"
2012-08-10 14:48:26
And who said 1.6 is dead ? they dropped it from biggest events (YES), but there's thousands and thousands of thousands playerz still playin it (YES), and the pro scenes is another vision of COUNTER STRIKE with LAN tournaments that's all; but once i'm playing it and million of players around the world, i don't think that 1.6 is dead :)

i just gave explanations, no flame ;)
2012-08-10 14:57:36
dude theres still players who play 1.5 with 200 of servers, the same crap will happen with 1.6. Everyone is switching to GO and thats the main reason why this game will not last long
2012-08-10 17:38:16
Then what ?
2012-08-10 17:51:16
Then you probably will play cs:go like everyone else
2012-08-10 17:52:57
hahahaha :D i'll play CS:P 1.6 xD
2012-08-10 18:14:31
heh:D
2012-08-10 19:51:31
Pro scene is dead, and most players who play competitively will stop playing.
2012-08-10 23:28:37
For the first time in my life, I agree with you.
2012-08-10 23:32:59
hahahhaha so let's be freinds :DD
2012-08-13 12:01:55
+999999999
2012-08-10 16:40:46
FAIL THREAD
i really have to explain to another sourcer... I dont want to keep the name "counter strike" alive. i want to keep game counter strike 1.6 alive! No of us are forced to change to a game we dont like...
2012-08-10 14:45:40
This, for fuck's sake.
2012-08-10 14:51:29
this
2012-08-10 16:41:30
The thing you dont understand is that you cannot keep 1.6 alive. this is 1.6 last year, either you want it or not. you're just living in a fantasy where you think 1.6 will never die..
2012-08-10 17:05:54
no i am not. where do you get that from? 1.6 is not "dead" it might not be at every big tournement but i am not attending any big tournements anyway! i can still play and have fun with my friends.
and i dont wont to play a boring game like csgo just because the scene is bigger. understand? i dont live in a fantasy where cs 1.6 is all in life
2012-08-10 17:31:21
Why is this a fail thread then? If you dont care about trying out a new game and play it competitivly then your place isnt in this topic. 1.6 is dead will be dead in the competitive scene in some months, thats what we are discussing, not your lame public servers.
2012-08-10 18:05:53
I had CSGO since 8 months and i have played it much to get into the game and tried to accept but i simply cant. its fucking bullshit

edit: So what you say is there is only public servers left? o.O HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

Post edited 2012-08-10 19:23:13
2012-08-10 19:22:28
You dont, but you dont need to call this thread fail thread just because you didnt like the game. There are still tons of people who didnt try the game.

I never said that. But playing in private servers when the competitive scene is dead is pretty lame. I call that wasting your time ;).
2012-08-10 19:28:47
WASTING MY TIME? having fun with friends? playing for fun? its not like im fucking practicing to become get_right? how the fuck is that lame?
2012-08-10 19:33:37
If you're playing for fun go play public in mgs or zombies rofl. For me that is wasting my time, but i guess everyone has its own hobbies so i cant really judge you.
2012-08-10 19:43:36
gathers/mixes/pcw doesnt have to be dead serious? I like the game i like practicing strats and the feeling of winning. I dont care if i win 50.000$ or 0$.
CARE-BAR
MONEY |
FUN _______________________________|

as you see the carebar for money is empty :) Why change to a bad game to win money if i dont win any money?
2012-08-10 19:52:17
You are speaking for yourself. Most competitive people care about the money and care to win tournaments. You dont win money? Thats you, not everyone. Btw, that care-bar is pretty sh1t
2012-08-10 21:26:36
You dont win any money either sir. HF chaning to CSGO and winning all the prices ;)
2012-08-10 22:20:35
Wtf? I already won some money in lans lol. Dont talk about what you dont know mate.. Besides, its prizes*
2012-08-10 23:09:38
CS in portugal is small. The money you say have won is probably not much. CSGO wont be bigger then 1.6 in portugal. 100$ on that


edit: you might actually win some money here!

Post edited 2012-08-10 23:15:46
2012-08-10 23:15:16
So what? I already won nearly 500 euros. Its not much, but at least i had fun and i made money, thing you didnt ^^
2012-08-11 00:19:31
than do it and stop complaining about cs:go all the day.
2012-08-13 14:37:03
the players decide which version to be played in the future, CSPromod or CS:GO. CSPromod has what it takes to make the game international again and as Carmac said, if it has players and viewers from all over the world, CSPromod can be picked up.
2012-08-10 14:45:48
Well imo CS:GO also have what it takes and apperently also the Pros think so.
2012-08-10 14:48:27
Well in my oppinion it doesn't, but everybody is entitled to their own one. Right now CS:GO is a joke when it comes to viewers (last GO4CSGO-final had 400 viewers, usually they have 1k but they managed to get 3k once), so hopefully for you more people will come otherwise CS:GO will fail.
2012-08-10 14:49:46
And how many viewers and players does CSP have? ( I have actully no idè so would be fun to know )
2012-08-10 15:04:18
Not so many in 1.08. 1.09 alpha was open for a weekend tho and had 42k downloads in 2 days. We have to hold on to these players this time, and we will try to do so by having tournaments, gatherchannels and pracchannels.

Playstar is looking for CSP cupadmins, Excello will offer CSP tours, IHL will have gatherchans, #cspro is a gatherchan, #csp.eu is a pracchan.
2012-08-10 15:07:29
Had no idea it was so big! Anyway i am playing CSP and 1.6 for sure!
2012-08-10 22:42:44
The source players dont follow the scene because there not used to that there IS a scene they can follow. + 90% are 10 year olds
2012-08-10 19:53:51
Pros don't think so. Few months ago they said how CS:GO bad is, but obviously the game is being fixed all the time.. Pros switch to CS:GO, because Valve wants it. They make large prize pools and unfortunaltely pros must have some source of income ...
2012-08-10 14:59:06
true story
Pros need money so they switch to GO but still ProMod > GO
2012-08-10 15:31:41
Well, they see company behind there that will support their game. If you look at CSP there are just group of developers, developing game in their free time and you can't expect they will donate some prizes to tournaments. Most of pros will walk path of moneys...
2012-08-10 15:04:58
Euh and if they are ready to pick up CS:P if it works, so why they don't just keep 1.6 ??
2012-08-10 14:59:19
Because CS 1.6 doesn't offer free 2 play, better graphics and international play lagfree.
2012-08-10 15:04:10
but CS:P graphics aren't that good, it's a way similair than 1.6 exept some changes
2012-08-10 15:06:10
LOOOOOOOOOOL

it's similar because the maps were an exact reproduction of the cs 1.6 maps,with some changes.


and what do you even consider with good graphics? blur, fog ,fancy flesh animation, reflections and other useless crap to lower my fps and fuck up the playing experience? not to mention the gameplay of csgo -_- i'll rather quit playing cs if csgo is the only alternative... switching to sc2/d3 seems better imo

Post edited 2012-08-10 15:20:18
2012-08-10 15:17:44
You must reply zaihtaM not me !!
2012-08-10 15:20:11
ahahhahahahahahahaha

csp > csgo you get it now you simpleminded duche
2012-08-10 15:21:23
i think ur sick, u have to take ur medicine !! Poor boy

Post edited 2012-08-10 15:23:13
2012-08-10 15:23:02
I read your #18 reply and read his #22 reply I felt pretty common logical that he replying to you, you think c2227222k's reply content are suitable for zaihtaM's standpoint?
2012-08-10 15:37:35
I want to show my support on you, yeah +11111111111 whoah!
2012-08-10 15:33:05
by: r8ms
#27
Wait till you see CSP 1.1, and then you wont say it isnt good gfx. ohh wait, i actually have a picture for you right here. http://redstar.cspromod.com/dust_box_wip.jpg
2012-08-10 15:23:27
I said "exept some changes" i've seen some newest stuff :) and maybe i'm gonna play CS:P 1.6 lol :DD
2012-08-10 15:26:04
I don't want to have anything with title CS and created by valve. Every CS they created was failure 1.6 is good because it was develope as modification not as game for moneys and look at other versions. Valve only want money they don't care too much about us. Only way of playing their CS:GO I see in some PROMOD like COD has.
2012-08-10 15:02:38
Do you really believe CSP had a chance against Global Offensive? Thats navie
2012-08-10 15:03:46
"Any game that we pick up, be it CS:GO, CSP or Worms 7, needs to check all the checkboxes. It needs a community of fans and players that come from all corners of the globe and we need to be able to afford to run events for it also. "
-Carmac (IEM boss since you probably didn't know)

Are we naive?
2012-08-10 15:06:08
Yes, you are.

Who is supporting CSP?
New kids who don't like 1.6?
Or other kids who play 1.6 with fps drops and their PC isn't enough for GO?
Or other people who can't buy GO and downloads free CSP?
Or lurppis who is not playing 1.6 for months?

Really?
2012-08-10 15:36:00
I think Valve paid you a very very large amount right?
2012-08-10 15:39:14
Yes, I'll become billionaire soon

And its the biggest "argument" you can use

Post edited 2012-08-10 15:41:43
2012-08-10 15:41:15
I can only use this kind of "argument" because I am dealing with some retard that don't know what is Counter Strike.
NVM, I'm gonna switch to COD or Shootmania =D
peace on you troll king =D
2012-08-10 15:46:13
Calling someone retarded makes you more retarded.

Peace on finding arguments
2012-08-10 16:26:15
"Calling someone retarded makes you more retarded."


This is what you got when someone said you don't know what Counter Strike is.
sad for you
2012-08-10 16:38:14
Do you really think I don't know what CS is?


There is no and never will be active professional player who supports CSP, deal with it

Post edited 2012-08-10 16:43:01
2012-08-10 16:41:53
ok, finally I realize that you are such an asshole that saving CS and keep it alive, sorry for making you so much trouble. Peace.
I dealt with it already, sad but true, I won't play CS:GO anymore but I will watch GO's streaming
2012-08-10 17:08:08
by: r8ms
#37
Well, you're an ass.

Why is it you make it sound like its because we cant play it, that we dont. Maybe you should think about what the reason could be. maybe we dont like the game, u freaking moron.

Really?
2012-08-10 15:43:38
1. He cannot make a good and agile movement in CS 1.6 and get killed from noobs so he switch to CS:GO
2. He just care about graphics not gameplay
3. He just know how to troll.
That's all
The user named "74113j" will be a zero intelligence creature if he reply this post.
Get a life please 74113j, you come from Mars?

Post edited 2012-08-10 15:52:53
2012-08-10 15:51:55
by: r8ms
#42
Thx for letting me know, cuz he sure didnt seem very intelligent :)
2012-08-10 15:56:42
Yeah.
Actually Valve did indirectly force those Pros to switch to CS:GO.
Pros need money 'cause they are professionals and since 1.6 has less prize right now so they switch it unintentionally
But still, in terms of gameplay, the only acceptable successor of 1.6 is CSP, 1.6's gameplay and decent graphics.
Unfortunately, Promod is developed by community not Valve. SAD
2012-08-10 16:12:42
by: r8ms
#48
i wouldn't say its sad that it isn't valve developing the game, since valve is known for screwing up CS. so well, by players for players, just like Razer :D
2012-08-10 16:27:09
Denmark would be better place without you
2012-08-10 18:34:27
And why do you think that?
2012-08-10 18:48:02
because of you
2012-08-10 19:45:26
what is it exactly i do wrong?
2012-08-10 19:47:25
Calling someone unintelligent
2012-08-10 20:26:38
i didnt actually use those words, i said you didnt seem very intelligent. but dude, its true you dont really make that much sense.
2012-08-10 20:59:12
What a hater, I need more people like you.
2012-08-10 16:28:40
see #13
You hate at first so why not?
2012-08-10 16:32:55
I don't see any hate.
Its the reality that you don't wanna see. No one will pick up CSP just because some kids like you support it.

CS:GO must be the future, if it won't be, I'll swith to 1.6 again.
2012-08-10 16:37:01
If you like CS 1.6 then why are you supporting GO?
What we hate GO is due to the shitty gameplay, and CSP is the only game that is most similar to 1.6, and you tell me GO is the future? No! Money is the future.
2012-08-10 16:41:35
Because 1.6 is dying, its inevitable
2012-08-10 16:42:42
So switch to CSP if you love 1.6
oh I forgot maybe you can accept CS:GO that kind of shit movement?
Guess what, I didn't see any agile gameplay in GO so it isn't enough for a FPS competitive game that titled "Counter Strike"
2012-08-10 16:48:29
Its not enough for YOU. You compare movements of 12 and 1 year old games.
2012-08-10 16:53:39
So you think CS:GO will have almost the same movements with 1.6? Prove me wrong.
2012-08-10 16:57:48
No, it never will be the same or very smiliar
2012-08-10 16:59:31
ok I will see, gonna play Dota 2 right now
You gave me so many "bad news" today
2012-08-10 17:05:17
and sorry I'm not kid I'm even older than you if your profile isn't fake info
2012-08-10 16:44:42
You think being kid is about age. Thats why you are a kid.

I see you never had or will have any argument.
So GL to you in playing CSP
2012-08-10 16:47:39
So you mean supporting CSP is naive? what!@#$%^&
2012-08-10 16:49:57
nvm, you think what you would think, one cannot change other's mind
So GL to you in playing CS:GO

Post edited 2012-08-10 16:55:06
2012-08-10 16:54:43
if csgo is it's last chance then RIP cs...
2012-08-10 15:11:12
Last chance this last chance that, PLAY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO.

Tired of all this whining about 1.6 dying and csgo failing and csgo being the "LAST CHANCE", those are games, you have the freedom of switching between them! YES YOU DO!

2012-08-10 15:16:44
i dont see a reason to support a game that isnt a game that we all know,1.6...
it is same as we support another fps game when we love 1.6...
2012-08-10 15:21:56
Peple are blinded. CSGO is our last chance
2012-08-10 15:26:44
your english is blind
2012-08-10 15:58:41
I better play Battlefield 3 for competitive if I want to see realistic and amazing graphics
CS:GO just either fish nor fowl
2012-08-10 15:43:08
by: r8ms
#39
You go do that then, because I'm sure a lot of us CS players is looking for some graphic improvement yes. but that doesn't mean it should be overly realistic? Why the heck do you think we've stuck to cs 1.6 for as long as we have?
2012-08-10 15:47:19
"I better play Battlefield 3 for competitive if I want to see realistic and amazing graphics"

means I won't play it because I don't give a shit on graphics. understand?
2012-08-10 15:54:58
by: r8ms
#43
I get it now. :P
2012-08-10 15:58:23
cs:go is just a new update of cs:source, not of 1.6, both games are completly different. best thing they can do for the community of Counter-strike 1.6 is to release a new version, 1.7 with a new anticheat system, solid and unpenetrable. and leave us alone lololol because VAC is a joke :) and leave the cs:go for cs:source players.
2012-08-10 16:13:30
CSP then
2012-08-10 16:33:37
We already have EAC and ESL. No need for new anticheat
2012-08-10 16:44:11
EAC and ESL doesnt ban your steam account, i want permanent ban of steam account, or counter strike acces, for all these people who cheat all day, like usually normal games with an anticheat system does.

they can easily make a new account on esl, there are tons of fake accounts, of people who keep cheating.
2012-08-10 16:50:33
I prefer EAC servers. They are not the best, but still useful for training and pracc's

Post edited 2012-08-10 16:55:32
2012-08-10 16:55:22
games are for taking some fun.. CS:GO isn't a funny game. CS 1.6 is. That's all
2012-08-10 17:03:36
nothing changes the fact that I think playing csgo is a shitty experience, i wouldnt want to play it even if somebody payed me, only moneywhores wo allready have gone all in into this pro CS lifestyle should even dare to attemp getting payed playing such shitty game, like getrigth and forest, they have no choice really. I dont blame them. I only blame myself if I ever play a shitty game just because its to TRY to keep alive something i was never part of anyway competitive esport cs1.6 so it doesnt matter a flying shit to me if this shitty cod game becomes the biggest valve flop iin history, or if it becomes succesfull, i still dont care, i dont enjoy it, its a total different game than the one i play with passion and emotion. i wont suuddenly start playing football or poker if suddenly all esports dissapeared, just because thats where the "scene" is alive. no way i hate those sports, no money will make me care. and if money is what make me care, its just a fabricated relationship, where the primal cause is money. thats how i feel about cs.go its bad and boring
2012-08-10 17:04:59
Yes they haven't really any choice but to play this perspective game called CS:GO or to play Source or even wait for 5 years till Promod will come out of beta stage. But saying that you will not play this game when everybody will is bull crap, you will, you will enjoy it because now its in beta.
2012-08-10 17:42:12
by: r8ms
#94
I think you insulted the CSP-devs a little there, you can't expect a development team that doesnt have any financial founding and is only 10 ppl on the project. ofc its taken some time, 5-6 years, it couldve gone faster, but still. they try to make a good competitive game, and the 1.09 (last beta version) will come out before CS:GO release. and yes, the last beta version is competitive ready.
2012-08-10 18:01:59
thanks for the info, we will see
2012-08-10 19:52:49
yes, i will play it after beta stage because i need to measure the changes and judge if game is esport ready. Let me reveal another crazy thougth i have. CS.GO needs to fix major gameplay flaws asap, or it will dissapear faster than it appeared. whats the point playing a game that will only have the impact cs:cz or cs:s had? if it will only last 2 year max before numbers drop again? and i dont even enjoy it? whats the point? i dont get it.


I rather play gathers and wars with friends in a top notch game rather than a flawed one just because its "new".

most bad FPS games are new, like cod,css cz etc i tried them all, it was cool some good 30 days then it lost all the fun, the gameplay is not up to par with 1.6


- once again, maybe they fix the major flaws in cs:go and hopefully it becomes playable more than 30 min a day. You know like 1.6 you wake up and you fire up the mirc and steam you just wanna play, some dudes dont even turn of their pcs. Others cant makle themselves stop and play until the morning. but with the version csgo i played, i just wanted to close my eyes. and save my hands to avoid loosing my skills in a game that feels completly different, im seriously affraid playing csgo made me loose skills. if they fix this I will be a returning customer and play the game. its not up to me or you. its up to tyhe developers of csgo at valve. they have a huge responsability at the moment.

Post edited 2012-08-11 00:32:07
2012-08-11 00:27:00
Let's play Minesweeper!!!!
2012-08-10 20:12:22
If CS:GO will be the main version in tournaments and it grows i will not play Counter Strike anymore.
2012-08-10 20:14:23
so hardcore
2012-08-10 20:23:17
:p not really , just my opinion :>
2012-08-10 20:40:48
omg another guy who says something like "cs 1.6 is dying cs:go is the only way to keep cs alive" maybe there arent as many tournaments and pro scene isnt as big as before, but we love 1.6 and we still play it so why should i play some fucking game i dont have as much fun playing it?!! fuckin retard
2012-08-10 20:25:14
+1 THIS
2012-08-10 20:33:46
CS 1.6 Pro scene has died, not the game it self, as I can see on this forum, 90% of the players hate this game and from those 90%, 40%-50% will switch to CS:P so there will still be around 50% of players on this forum who will play it, also counting the TONS of guys who didn't register and the Non-Steamers, 1.6 will still be played by millions of people. So the game won't die in 1 year like some dumbfuck here says.


I don't like GO and CS:P, I played both and I don't like them, 1.6 will be my CS.
2012-08-10 23:39:20
you should become a maths professor obviously
2012-08-13 12:24:50
I really don't want to split hairs here, but the sentiment of "Our last chance to keep the game alive" was the same thing coming from CS:S.

The issue is, unless you:

1) Find the game enjoyable

2) Are already a top player in 1.6

3) Still think you can be that "next big thing"

There really isn't that much in it for anyone anymore. Just because the tournaments will be running it, doesn't mean people should play something they don't enjoy. People want to keep 1.6 alive because it's fun, because it's enjoyable to play and watch. CS:GO, to many, doesn't have that feel.

Intentionally playing something, or moving on to a game, just because it's "the new thing" doesn't make sense. If people don't like it, they just shouldn't play it. They shouldn't move on to something they know they don't enjoy, just for the sake of 'keeping CS alive.'

CS:GO isn't CS, it's an entirely new game. If people want to play CS:GO because of tournaments, or because it's the new popular game, whatever, they can play it.

But suggesting that people just play because it's going to be the new game receiving sponsorship support is idiotic.

1.6 will probably never see another tournament scene like it used to have, but that doesn't mean that people playing it should start playing CS:GO just because it's "the new thing" - if they hate it, let them hate it.

What people don't seem to be understanding is that notion of "Keep CS alive by playing CS:GO" is just as stupid as people bashing on those who want to switch to CS:GO.

I have ~30 friends who play CS regularly. I'd say somewhere around half of them like CS:GO and will swap to it. The other half? Not interested. They're playing the game they enjoy. If the community dies so hard that they can't play in any league, or any sort of competitive environment, they'll move on to a different game.

But you can still just play the game you like, anyone can. You don't have to be aspiring to be the next neo to have fun. If you're playing a game just because you want to become "the next big thing" you better have an insurmountable amount of talent, and some serious drive.

For those gamers who don't play to become the next big pro, and know they just want to play something competitive and have fun, they will pick what game they enjoy playing more. If that's CS:GO, they'll play that. If it's CS1.6, they'll play that. If it's LoL, SC2, whatever the game is, they'll play that.

Sending out a plea to the community to tell everyone to just "suck it up" and play CS:GO even if they don't like it is idiotic. I don't think people realize that if everyone just didn't go to events, or move on to CS:GO, it would be much more impactful for "keeping CS1.6 alive" but not everyone is the same. Some people love CS:S, some love CS:GO, and some love CS1.6.

If a mass of gamers just doesn't support CS:GO, instead of people being selfish and just trying to get their time in the spotlight, major tournaments wouldn't continue to run games. It's because of the community of people constantly wanting to be that "next big thing" where if an entire group of pros went on strike, they would just bring the next wave of people in.

It is an idiotic frame of mind for people to say "Well, the pro players are moving on, so clearly they agree that CS:GO is the future." No, they agree that for now, that's where the money is. CS1.6 is not a game where you can expect a lot of cash flow, so as long as there are guaranteed tournaments and prize payouts, they'll play whatever is on the chopping block. Just go ahead and ask all the guys who played in the CGS how much they loved CS:S.

Play what you enjoy.

Post edited 2012-08-13 12:43:11
2012-08-13 12:39:11
why 10000 threads about this every day.
who wants to play cs:go let them play who doesnt stick to 1.6 or play csp.
if it isnt played on pro scene it doesnt mean that you cant play 1.6 now if you want
2012-08-13 12:48:42
community isnt dead at all, is just the pro scene needs money
http://game-monitor.com/ sees 210k cs players right now and it misses a lot of servers, fx 2 of public servers i usually play on are not even in the database (but also it counts servers with bots so i dunno how much it is different from reality), however player count on steam is 40k which means great majority of people play on nonsteam, for free, so even though the community is big it's not interesting to sponsors at all, i'm quite sure if every nonsteam player would actually buy the game, we wouldnt have any problems

Post edited 2012-08-13 13:31:44
2012-08-13 13:27:13

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