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I have problems when I play Counter Strike!
Problem:
My skill on deathmatch is pretty good, headshots, one shots, reflex and other.. but when I play mix with friends I cant kill :S my score is every time 6:9, 9:10, 4:11 :S regardless on opponents skill(low,mid,high)
sometimes I play good make some headshots but >,<
btw: I'm watch a lot of demos but cannot help lot.
I every day play deathmatch 2/3 hours per day, and dm skill is pretty good/normal.

precisely: Im every time in bad position, which is good for opponents :S Im flashed, heg 30hp- and then Im dead, Sometimes Im in good position but opponents flash me and still dead :(. I don't know what I need to do to be better in team play, get easy kills. Any suggestion guys will help me a lot :)) Thanks!
(66 replies)
Created 2012-08-13 17:45 by: SYLYY
One important question, you full in mix's?
2012-08-13 17:49:19
by: SYLYY
#2
well, 5/10 mixes per day with My friends.
2012-08-13 17:50:14
no, that's not what im saying xD
im saying this: WITH AK/M4 OR THE WEAPON THAT YOU USUALY PLAY YOU FULL VERY MUCH WITH THE WEAPON'S THAT U USE? or you play with your 100% aim that u use in dm's?
2012-08-13 17:54:05
by: SYLYY
#7
I play with Ak and sometimes m4 :) but I love play with awp too.
2012-08-13 17:56:27
fuck, you dind't understand again -.- xD

forget it
2012-08-13 18:01:43
Doubt that anyone did :P
2012-08-13 18:05:44
this
2012-08-13 18:12:12
actually I did :)
2012-08-13 19:43:58
i did
2012-08-14 13:56:09
by: Mizk
#66
i did.

He ment are you trying your best on Mix like ur doing on DeatchMatch
EZPZ
2012-08-14 17:49:01
did i ? hardly but yes :D
2012-08-14 20:40:53
e: nvm I jest, I jest!

Post edited 2012-08-14 21:33:44
2012-08-14 21:32:52
Do you even understand what you just said yourself?

"WITH AK/M4 OR THE WEAPON THAT YOU USUALY PLAY YOU FULL VERY MUCH WITH THE WEAPON'S THAT U USE"

What the fuck did I just read?
2012-08-13 19:14:45
speand all 30 bullets in 1 click! thats full ...
2012-08-14 14:50:06
#39 ? :)
2012-08-13 19:45:13
i bet no one did
2012-08-13 20:40:24
He was tryin to ask if you sprayed much...
2012-08-13 19:40:16
Hes asking if you buy everything on buy rounds, for instance armor + helmet and nades etc. "full buy" :)
2012-08-13 19:44:44
Nah, by "full" he means spray or tap/one shots :P
2012-08-13 20:46:01
well alright.. that's what I understand under "full" :D but k :p portuguese people are special ^^
2012-08-13 21:28:59
And I just noticed I contradicted myself LOL
Went to a music festival and I'm still recovering ^_^
2012-08-13 22:21:00
WITH AK/M4 OR THE WEAPON THAT YOU USUALY PLAY YOU FULL VERY MUCH WITH THE WEAPON'S THAT U USE?

I literally spilled my coffee at how you were trying to make something clear and then wrote THAT.
2012-08-14 16:12:47
Sent your demo to cARn and maybe he will comentate what you should do better.
Sorry for bad English.
2012-08-13 17:54:14
+1
2012-08-13 17:55:09
by: SYLYY
#9
You think that He will dload my demo and say me what I need to do? lol just losing time :)
2012-08-13 17:57:25
try... if you don't try you will never know cArn's answer....
2012-08-13 18:02:17
Not only to you, he will put your demo in his next ep of theory of cs ep 11 and commentate it.

Post edited 2012-08-13 18:05:15
2012-08-13 18:03:21
How can I contact carn via?
2012-08-13 18:04:35
He's obviously trolling you.

The real answer is: you need more game sense. This means less DM/pub/mixes, more time with a real team.
2012-08-13 18:07:03
I'm not trolling him...
2012-08-13 18:14:08
Oh, in that case my apologies!
2012-08-13 18:16:10
You don't just get in a 'real team' based on your game sense ability. That is just one of the qualities. You need to be an overall decent player. Decent aiming, movement, game sense, communication, not be a dick and possibly more to be an above average player.

You can have all the game sense you want but if you have mediocre aiming and movement, you'll get picked every time you face someone.

I don't recommend public since it is pointless. But deathmatch, aim servers, bots on lan, bhop and kz servers will help you develop your overall game play and not just game sense. Game sense comes with time and experience.
2012-08-14 20:27:10
I didn't say that you needed game sense to get into a real team. Well you do, but as you said yourself, you need the other stuff too. If you read the OP again his problem is that he plays well in DM but not in mixes. This doesn't seem to be due to nerves (which might play a part nevertheless), but rather because he's dying to HEs, when he's flashed, etc. This is generally an indication of poor game sense because you're unable to put yourself in your opponents' shoes.

In my opinion, playing in a proper clan and actually taking the game 'seriously' is the best way of improving your game sense and decision making. Obviously it's slightly different for everyone but I used to play in a clan for years. After I 'quit' and only started playing pubs and gathers I genuinely felt like my decision making had gone to shit. I would die and think: "Did I just make the best possible decision. Hell no."
2012-08-14 21:46:59
I don't know, you should serch his e-mail in www.fnatic.com
2012-08-13 18:08:06
awkward shit lol
2012-08-13 18:58:47
If you wanna aim right, find your self a good positions, don't put your self between a lot of enemies and then say I have a bad skill.
2012-08-13 17:58:19
"aim" isn't the point of counter-strike, you need experience too to play "nice" cs, if you know what i mean, if you play at 1/2 years ofc that you will not be able to kill 2much..

seriously, experience it's all in cs, aim isn't nothing.
aiming, like i said is 10% what you need at cs..
pls go see "falleN's videos on youtube from playArt"

he teaches that thing of "aiming and experience", what's the diference

Post edited 2012-08-13 18:05:57
2012-08-13 18:04:34
Well, I agree with you, maybe 2-3 hours a day gonna give the aim you want, but the experience need years !

I'm gonna check those videos cuz I like fallen
2012-08-13 18:06:03
thanks for agree with my opinion, and fallen it's a great player
2012-08-13 18:06:55
take the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3KV0Uq3YMo&fea..

sry but he speaks portuguese (from brasil ofc)
2012-08-13 18:08:05
2 hours OMG:D
2012-08-13 18:10:05
ahah xD
2012-08-13 18:11:13
And it's in brazilian-pt :p

I watch it live, a great class
2012-08-13 18:56:06
Portuguese :\
2012-08-13 18:56:58
On his videos FalleN uses to write subtitles in english, but this video was made for Brazil Gaming and it's a 2 hours video :p

Too long for subtitles :D
2012-08-13 19:16:20
this is not the problem, how the hell can I focus at video and the subtitles at the same time ..
2012-08-13 20:35:15
how you watch movies then?
2012-08-14 15:56:21
it doesn't matter what you've done in deathmatch for me the most important thing in cs is movement :)
2012-08-13 18:17:50
Maybe your teammates are low and you are dying because of them??
Upload demo from random match where you think you are playing bad, then we will know how to help you.

And remember that CS is team-play game, no matter how many people you killed, the most important things are money system and winning the rounds by playing smart.
2012-08-13 18:47:49
http://speedy.sh/NMMT3/lglg.dem
some esl match, can u take a look and tell me whats wrong?
2012-08-13 20:47:56
There is so many stupid plays and so many mistakes in your gameplay but I dont have enough time to describe each one so I will write only the most important.

1. FFS use ventriloo/teamspeak/mumble to communicate, because writing "drop", "save", "back" won't help you - communication is the most important thing in games like CS.
2. Don't go long just because your teammates said so if your resp is the one near to brown crate. Tell your teammates that you cant go long, because you have resp on B and your opponent will for sure wait for you on long.
3. Thing about your flashes. You are throwing flash B tunnels from middle every round and even if this flash will touch somebody, they will just dodge this and wait for end of this.
4. Possitioning on map. You guys were defending map like morons(sorry but this is true). You need to take much informations about opponent at the beginning of the round as you can, so try to cut catwalk, by boosting 2 people on crate, the booster is goin mid then, and two people are defending B. People on catwalk (WITH A GOOD SPAWN) can JUMP-CHECK middle, so your info is opponents are long or B, then you are rotating or something.(THERE IS A LOT OF TAC LIKE THAT)
5. Dunno wtf was that bad server or your net settings but you were shooting very unsmoothly so try to dodge servers/configurations like that.

You need to learn a lot by watching POV's and playing serious PCW's instead of random mixes and stuff. hf gl
2012-08-14 12:48:02
this
2012-08-14 14:00:55
thanks alot, appreciate it
2012-08-14 16:12:15
i had that problem too, just try to play more carefully and allways look on what kind of position you are etc.
2012-08-13 19:17:16
by: d3c0
#48
maybe u playing with same nobrain style as on deamatch in mix...
2012-08-13 21:42:43
how is your movement ?


you make fake decals/ hold position/ agressive too much ?

you use flashes/nades alot ?

2012-08-13 22:35:23
Play on mouse sports or fnatic dm instead u play on some no brain opponents deathmatch, or you have example on inferno you playing aggresive, nuke are spawning and waiting etc etc...
2012-08-13 23:08:21
Play less agressively.
2012-08-13 23:49:19
Timing in CS is everything. That being said.

How much do you play per week? How long have you played CS?
How often do you have "good" matches?

Post edited 2012-08-14 13:58:38
2012-08-14 13:53:55
in dm actually the aggressive playstyle (move from place to place and tapping) works, but when it comes to 5on5 you must be more deffensive and carefull to survive the round and it doesnt works like on dm, you shoot some heads and thats all, most of the times u forced to spray also doesnt metter what weapon you have awp or rifles, smoke and flashes helps a lot if you throw them in the correct timing which is also depends on your opponents position. I would say the game is fuckin random, cuz everything can happen in every situation and depends mostly on the positions of your and your oppomenents.If the enemies position are better simply you have less more chance to kill them.

Example when someone sniping at ct side and u+your teamates must push and take one of the bombsites also dont put yourself in battles where you know where are more enemies than 1, even if u kill 1-2 the 3-4th will kill you if they arent noobs


Post edited 2012-08-14 14:16:20
2012-08-14 14:15:09
by: tHm - <3 tHm
#58
Accidently reported you, sorry 'bout that :P.

But ye you are totally right. When playing DM you basicly dont use your brain, you only live on your aim and reflexes, which is a good thing, but there's much more to CS than just aim.
2012-08-14 14:46:33
"Accidently reported you" haha :D
2012-08-14 15:05:34
by: tHm - <3 tHm
#61
I hit the wrong thing! :D
2012-08-14 15:50:59
try and practice hard to save urself to be flashed using soung and perfect timing and position...

Post edited 2012-08-14 16:47:20
2012-08-14 16:47:07
Not sure if this might be of any help, but I will try anyway. At least for me, switching from DM right into the mix/tg is just wrong. I play like an idiot, running, spraying, ignoring the existence of grenades, I don't mind my positions at all.. Try to "cool down" at some public or w/e, get into the slower pace of game, where you actually pay the attention to the little things, little noises, and stuff :)
2012-08-14 17:49:27
thanks
2012-08-14 19:39:33
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