Before 2004, yes.

not compared to em.

He was at the top for that time but movement wasn't as developed to how we know it today. E.g. He played before the widespread use of crouch hop. He is a good Aimer - said players would acknowledge that but they also might call it quite elementary if that makes sense.

why don't you just download some of his demos and see for yourself?

he would have been top 5 around 03 - 04 and perhaps into 05, cant compare him to today's players as its a new generation but of course players of today have heaps better aim.

Compared to nowadays he is/was a fuckin' ubernoob.

Potti and Spawn were better than him,I think he was a bit overrated but good player at all

he was top5 in the times of 1.5

his aim was nothing like aim of today's pro players.

in 2004-05 maybe today sure not

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he was a ridiculously smart player with "good" aim... like f0rest.

compared to Markeloff, Edward, trace, walle, GeT_RiGhT, f0rest, Neo he was BAD.

no... he was a sprayer

nah he was a good sprayer

Nope. Like f0rest said, CS evolved to be highly aim dependant. You HAVE to get an instant headshot on an enemy or you will die. It wasn't the same during HidN's time.

Same with oldschool awpers and today. Newer players just keep pushing the envelope. It like any other sport. Today's best are generally in contention for being the best ever.

bad/good as well as this thread is.....

what are your views???

Thread and aim are good or bad????

Now he is a trash talker more

he use to have a really good spray , but player movements ( have imprved a lot) in that times was so much easier to a player o hit them , so i dont think u cant compare him with anyone from that list that doesnt make any sense , he was a smart man with great spray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwAGylrHbyE

http://www.fragbite.se/?fileID=5350

In CS earlier days, then certainly one of the best AK-aimers, spraycontroll, etc.

I remember watching him out aim mTw.aTn (germany) awper's with a colt so yes he could aim.

Don't ever compare and old school player like HeatoN with the likes of f0rest and crap. Theres no competition to HeatoN

Who said we compare them (?) comparing Counter-Strike, HeatoN and NIP in early millenium is like comparing Brazil world cup gold in 1958 with 1994 world cup gold in USA, or something like that. Two completly different eras and development-stages of the game.

f0rest is the best ever, i know what, but chill pls, wether you like it or not, HeatoN was a force back in his prime and defintaly a milestoneplayer.

HeatoN is better than both neo and f0rest

HeatoN only knew how to spray

In his time he was one of the best, but cs evolved

hell no!

good enough

Yes in his Time if u know what i mean

compared to f0rest, heaton = 0
at his time was good but nowdays i don't think so