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You searched for this? its a 4 yr old post :|
2012-09-04 09:02:30
no, it was on the left (galleries)
2012-09-04 09:07:10
2008
2012-09-04 12:47:03
he just said that he didn't SEARCH for it, it showed by itself :)
2012-09-04 12:59:09
NIXON MASSIVE KID!!!
2012-09-04 09:30:09
yea, massive kid for having an opinion, stfu
2012-09-04 21:06:23
well, f0rest is the best player so he is right
2012-09-04 09:49:41
true, and this answer is coming from a polish guy. So u can close this topic.
2012-09-04 09:51:55
Its just my opinion :)
2012-09-04 09:53:48
yea i mean, normally every polish guy would say neo > f0rest, but in this case even a polish guy says f0rest > Neo so im agreeing with you.
2012-09-04 09:58:53
Fanboy detected !!
2012-09-04 09:52:42
Polish fanboy of swedish player? HAHAhaha, man, you must call emergency
upd: He just said the truth. Neo is incredible player with really nice movement and actions on de_train (for ex.), but anyway, f0rest is more professional & good player. I dont want to telling why, it's just the truth.
Post edited 2012-09-04 12:33:03
upd: He just said the truth. Neo is incredible player with really nice movement and actions on de_train (for ex.), but anyway, f0rest is more professional & good player. I dont want to telling why, it's just the truth.
Post edited 2012-09-04 12:33:03
2012-09-04 12:30:58
"more professional & good player"... OKAY
2012-09-04 12:37:05
to tired from pepole like you :/
2012-09-04 21:05:12
any other ideas? Okay, squeeze out your mind upon this thread. Tell me about neo and his Global World Supremacy, about his gold hands and other. Next say that f0rest is overrated, that he is a gay, only fanboys love them (inc. ex-SK), etc. That f0rest dosent have any aim and movement skill. Okay? You are from Agrentina, Alright? Just only 19. Man, you really looked through all the years of neo's and f0rp's gaming career? Kid, gona study further.
Look at the statistics and say to me, that neo more good that f0rest based on Kill / Death rating (btw, neo has shot for about 30% of his headshots at Polish Leagues, in which no team even the swedish AliGon's level). Send me the links on "NIJO's PoV demo with ReALLy nIcE fRAgZ and other".
Man, stop.
Post edited 2012-09-04 21:24:01
Look at the statistics and say to me, that neo more good that f0rest based on Kill / Death rating (btw, neo has shot for about 30% of his headshots at Polish Leagues, in which no team even the swedish AliGon's level). Send me the links on "NIJO's PoV demo with ReALLy nIcE fRAgZ and other".
Man, stop.
Post edited 2012-09-04 21:24:01
2012-09-04 21:19:00
You should study less CS, and focus on Geography.
The guy is from Israel, not Argentina.
The guy is from Israel, not Argentina.
2012-09-04 22:30:45
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/27926-Neo_is_the_..
http://www.hltv.org/news/3470-european-player-of-t..
http://www.fragbite.se/?blogID=9&postID=313
http://www.hltv.org/news/3470-european-player-of-t..
http://www.fragbite.se/?blogID=9&postID=313
2012-09-04 22:54:16
trace: me! eheheh
2012-09-04 23:15:49
looks like someone used to be a huge fanboy, lmao
2012-09-04 10:03:01
well for me neo is the better player because he's been on top for so many years..but f0rest in his prime was unstoppable
2012-09-04 10:22:36
in 2008, f0rest was the best.
2012-09-04 11:19:41
Both have been the best so it´s really hard to say. I think f0rest best level is better than Neo´s but Neo has proven to be more consistant.
2012-09-04 11:52:00
This!
2012-09-04 18:52:34
true, dude
2012-09-04 18:56:55
Both are amazing but i think that when f0rest was on fire, no player on earth could stop him...
2012-09-04 12:24:49
Since f0rest was born he has been n1 cs player. The chosen one
2012-09-04 12:29:06
Fanboy..
Just neo make the unexpected happens
Just neo make the unexpected happens
2012-09-04 12:44:06
the best player is insider.
2012-09-04 12:57:44
finally someone who thinks the same as me
2012-09-04 18:36:55
So let me see, a guy that covered like, more than 100 events worldwide for about like 10 years, can't give his own opinion on who's better between 2 players without being considered fanboy? lol.
You should at least respect his opinion, at least it's a valid fact.
You should at least respect his opinion, at least it's a valid fact.
2012-09-04 13:02:35
Actually Nixon would be laughing at himself for making such ignorant comment 4 years ago, like "lost all duals",">neo any time",lol, thats really stupid and ignorant for sure.
2012-09-04 15:35:21
+1
so nosense
so nosense
2012-09-04 15:44:25
yeah man
2012-09-04 18:58:00
+1.6
2012-09-04 22:26:54
He can give his opinion for sure, but he should explain a lil bit more at least.
Based on what x is better on y? All duels? Lol.
(I don't prefer NEO over f0rest or viceversa)
Based on what x is better on y? All duels? Lol.
(I don't prefer NEO over f0rest or viceversa)
2012-09-09 03:36:07
Neo is the only player in the world that carried almost alone a team to be world champion, and that happened several times. He is the best overall player ever with the best aim. F0rest comes in second place.
Post edited 2012-09-04 13:05:41
Post edited 2012-09-04 13:05:41
2012-09-04 13:03:53
Nope
2012-09-04 21:06:29
i would rather say that neo is actually a player that has ALLWAYS had stable players around him..he has been playing with kuben, taz and loord for like ever :p
2012-09-04 21:35:44
f0rest is better obviously
2012-09-04 13:16:34
Talking about which player is better... E.G. Nix0n here put that f0rest is better because their 1on1 duels. If you look at their individual achievements Neo is better, but f0rest is just behind him. It is just like in football or in any other team sport, Messi vs Ronaldo, Kobe vs James, Balic vs Karabatic... You can't exactly say who is better because there are too many factors involved.
I've always prefered Neo because of his unique gaming style, his ability to fit in whatever role his team puts him, for his ability of understanding the game and reading an opponents, for his movement, because he was practically one man army in his team for the most of the times and so on. On the other hand some prefer f0rest because of his aiming skills, great but really different movement from Neo's, ability to carry his team with amazing scoreline, ability of reading opponents and so on. It is relative, so it is absurd to discuss about it.
I've always prefered Neo because of his unique gaming style, his ability to fit in whatever role his team puts him, for his ability of understanding the game and reading an opponents, for his movement, because he was practically one man army in his team for the most of the times and so on. On the other hand some prefer f0rest because of his aiming skills, great but really different movement from Neo's, ability to carry his team with amazing scoreline, ability of reading opponents and so on. It is relative, so it is absurd to discuss about it.
2012-09-04 13:21:24
close the thread
2012-09-04 14:49:16
even saying f0rest better than neo because of 1on1 duals is groundless. Facts are there, not Nixon or anyone's personal fanboy statement can change that.
2012-09-04 15:40:31
thats true :)
2012-09-04 21:03:52
"Neo is better, but f0rest is just behind him. It is just like in football or in any other team sport, Messi vs Ronaldo, Kobe vs James, Balic vs Karabatic" NEO IS BETTER
>NEO IS BETTER
SENSE?
>NEO IS BETTER
SENSE?
2012-09-04 21:08:51
Well of course it doesn't make sense if you take only parts of my post which suits you. Point was, it is relative and it depends which factors will you take into consideration.
2012-09-04 21:16:52
Wait.....
Neo was basicly one man army most of the time?
Is that what you really believe?
Neo was basicly one man army most of the time?
Is that what you really believe?
2012-09-07 11:15:21
From 2006 to 2012, now we have seen many classical clashes between these two teams. Mostly, neo is the decisive factor for Poland win, while f0rest is the decisive one from Sweden. But in those matcheups, its always hard to tell which is the favorite in general. And when talking about wcg, Poland the golden five is simply the headache of Sweden.
Then look at the statistics of neo and his teammates, compare them with f0rest and his teammates, then compare the achievement. neo is in theory better than f0rest regardless of everybody's preference in play style. pure skillwise, only taz in the team from Poland has close level like neo, while you see f0rest, has gux, dsn, gtr, even back the days, archi, etc.
Yes, I am fan of neo, but I dont want waste time arguing anyone with my fanboy opinions, like there are already tons of those comments. So, just straigten up some facts.
Then look at the statistics of neo and his teammates, compare them with f0rest and his teammates, then compare the achievement. neo is in theory better than f0rest regardless of everybody's preference in play style. pure skillwise, only taz in the team from Poland has close level like neo, while you see f0rest, has gux, dsn, gtr, even back the days, archi, etc.
Yes, I am fan of neo, but I dont want waste time arguing anyone with my fanboy opinions, like there are already tons of those comments. So, just straigten up some facts.
2012-09-04 15:37:21
You could turn things the other way around too. It should have been "harder" for f0rest to stand out, even if he had such good teammates. :)
Just seeing them as equals would be the best thing..
Just seeing them as equals would be the best thing..
2012-09-04 20:06:47
yea, I like them both, and f0rest, due to fnatic good advertisement here in China, got recongnition earlier than neo here. so before like 06 07, I know little about neo, only f0rest. but later, I learn more things about 1.6 from neo, and its amazing.
2012-09-05 04:00:57
g5 is just better in teamplay meaning, they can win every game by communicate together as brothers who know each other as any team can't, individually they are worse than swedes but their teamplay is one of the best possible, they are playing together for a long time and they know how to play together - its the reason for their success, so neo is worse in duels vs f0rest but for example 5on5 4on4 3on3 or 2on2, g5 players have more chances cuz of sick supporting their teammates
Post edited 2012-09-04 16:11:56
Post edited 2012-09-04 16:11:56
2012-09-04 16:11:23
neo is the best clutcher
2012-09-04 19:54:03
emmh, its pretty lame to devalue neo's star effect in the team by exaggerate their teamplay, like all other teams, fnatic, navi, sk, etc. are all kindergarten level at teamplay. plz dont be ridiculous. poland team rely much on neo individual play, esp during the past.
and again, you bring up "duels". how do you guys come up with this concept of duels in 5on5 cs1.6 match. I rarely see such things in cs1.6 match. and the real duel IMO only exist in 1on1 aim_map. anyway, how do you come to the conclusion that f0rest better than neo in duels, or its just bullshit!
its obvious that only the clutch moment best reflects a player's pure individual skill 100%. when one has to rely on ones own entirely. one has to be superior to his oponents both at aim and reading the game to win a clutch round. and so many unimaginable clutch rounds neo has won during these years simply speak the fact.
and again, you bring up "duels". how do you guys come up with this concept of duels in 5on5 cs1.6 match. I rarely see such things in cs1.6 match. and the real duel IMO only exist in 1on1 aim_map. anyway, how do you come to the conclusion that f0rest better than neo in duels, or its just bullshit!
its obvious that only the clutch moment best reflects a player's pure individual skill 100%. when one has to rely on ones own entirely. one has to be superior to his oponents both at aim and reading the game to win a clutch round. and so many unimaginable clutch rounds neo has won during these years simply speak the fact.
2012-09-05 04:12:46
can't agree more!
2012-09-05 08:15:53
Oh god why is exactly the question i asked myself after reading this shitty post.
2012-09-04 16:33:55
Neo>f0rest overall and there is nothing you can do. Stats,achievements,movements - Neo is better in everything I named,f0rest is probably more dominant (aces,highlights)
2012-09-04 16:42:39
i bet 10k $ that sk or fnatic (or both) is/are paying nixon some money to promote them. if you look how many iviews/news etc nixon posts about sk/fnatic in general and during the events comparing to other teams, you can clearly see what is going on here. most of the ppl here are very young and if they see so many news about fnatic for example that's pretty obvious they gonna follow them. during the events, you can see a great coverage when sk/fnatic are winning, but when they're out there's just one/two short news and that's it. ofc neo >>> forest in general, but that's not the point here...
2012-09-04 20:04:30
I lol´d
2012-09-04 20:35:56
5/10 attempt
2012-09-04 20:43:04
Hes polish guys cmon give him a 50% discount on stupidity
2012-09-04 21:09:27
well, its his opinion, why u blame him? I think that f0rest is better but do not hate anybody who say that is neo.
2012-09-04 23:24:35
Nice try
2012-09-05 19:35:29
that's true, and neo&co pay lurppis so he always writting that SK gonna be 2nd/3rd place on the big events in his predictions
2012-09-06 22:25:31
aren't they (SK) usually 2nd/3rd/4th etc when ESC or Navi are attending? so what is your problem?
2012-09-08 08:34:12
No they're not )
2012-09-08 09:02:21
it wasnt a question moron, and yes they were usually 2nd/3rd/4th etc...
2012-09-08 11:09:07
It wasnt a question? Then why you typed "?" ? I always thought "?" means a question.
And lurppis predictions about sk 2nd/3rd/4th place were in 2011 too. In 2011 they usually were 3rd/4th? LOL
1st IEM 6 GC New York
1st ESWC
1st GameGune
1st ICSC 8
1st DH Summer
and other...
btw. I respect that this was lurppis opinion, and that was only a joke...
Post edited 2012-09-08 15:06:09
And lurppis predictions about sk 2nd/3rd/4th place were in 2011 too. In 2011 they usually were 3rd/4th? LOL
1st IEM 6 GC New York
1st ESWC
1st GameGune
1st ICSC 8
1st DH Summer
and other...
btw. I respect that this was lurppis opinion, and that was only a joke...
Post edited 2012-09-08 15:06:09
2012-09-08 15:04:09
Till 2008 maybe, but since then neo had proved he's the best, and f0rest dropped his level a bit. I'm sure even nixon thinks neo is better now.
2012-09-04 20:59:34
2k7, Neo player of the year.
2012-09-04 21:26:13
Personally, i think you cant say whos better, they are the 2 best players to ever embrace this game. Tho, imo of course, neo is the most complete player, f0rest is a little irregular BUT, when he is in his top form, he is the most skilled player. With this beeing said, i think people keep forgeting get_right. He has been the best for the last what... 3 years? 2 years? i dunno, but he should get more recognizion
2012-09-04 21:05:57
you was in another planet last 4 years?
welcome back to earth bro!
welcome back to earth bro!
2012-09-04 21:21:02
you are/were
2012-09-05 08:20:51
You know how fragbite made an article about the best IGL. Maybe HLTV.org could do the same thing but "the best player ever" should be the title.
2012-09-04 21:29:47
http://www.hltv.org/news/3470-european-player-of-t..
http://www.hltv.org/news/3484-neo-voted-player-of-..
and fragbite made an article about the best clutcher, neo won
Post edited 2012-09-04 22:22:13
http://www.hltv.org/news/3484-neo-voted-player-of-..
and fragbite made an article about the best clutcher, neo won
Post edited 2012-09-04 22:22:13
2012-09-04 22:21:17
Well I knew this, but I thought it'd be nice to see what professional players think.
2012-09-04 22:27:26
well, probably won't be different, I read an interview here that zonic considers neo, lurpiss also have said here on the site.
2012-09-04 22:35:34
Voted by the hltv.org users, thats one hell of a award.
Post edited 2012-09-07 11:13:56
Post edited 2012-09-07 11:13:56
2012-09-07 11:12:56
Well, i'm surprise just cause sweden scene is the largest here, and neo won twice. Maybe you have to accept?
2012-09-07 14:54:08
That´s probably because Poland had 1 player on the list while Sweden had Heaton, Potti, walle, f0rest ?
2012-09-07 14:57:08
You say like just poles voted in neo. haha the majority of users voted in neo
2012-09-07 15:06:33
Actually a lot of the poles made multiple accounts just to vote for neo and also flamed the thread which had like 2k+ replies and eventually Nomad had to lock it. The thing is that a lot of swedes and people from nordic where the CS is most popular voted for other players while at that time the poles and USSR countries vote for Neo.
Ofcourse Neo has fans worldwide, but the majority of them are poles.
http://www.hltv.org/news/3470-european-player-of-t..
Now imagine if there was only wasn´t HeatoN on the vote. Who do you think would won? Not that the award means anyways really, just determines who has the most fanboys.
Post edited 2012-09-07 15:12:40
Ofcourse Neo has fans worldwide, but the majority of them are poles.
http://www.hltv.org/news/3470-european-player-of-t..
Now imagine if there was only wasn´t HeatoN on the vote. Who do you think would won? Not that the award means anyways really, just determines who has the most fanboys.
Post edited 2012-09-07 15:12:40
2012-09-07 15:10:24
I dont know, in player of the decade with the best sweden awp player neo won, i think the better have more fanboys, like markellof (the best awp)
2012-09-07 15:24:35
Well according to that vote the best awp is walle.
There were 5 players in the best player vote - walle, heaton, f0rest, potti. Who do you think the swedes where the CS was so popular would vote if the only had one player. f0rest, heaton, walle, spawn..
Do you see the difference? Do you see where i am going with this argument?
There were 5 players in the best player vote - walle, heaton, f0rest, potti. Who do you think the swedes where the CS was so popular would vote if the only had one player. f0rest, heaton, walle, spawn..
Do you see the difference? Do you see where i am going with this argument?
2012-09-07 15:28:10
In player of the decade only had walle...
2012-09-07 15:49:34
Neo is Golden, forest not. He just supporting his neighbor its understandable and cute, no big deal he can have opinions too.
2012-09-04 22:35:09
He's being paid by Valve to have an opinion!
2012-09-04 23:04:07
Neo is better simply because he has always been playing with worse skilled teammates and can win any tournament if they have huge motivation.
f0rest always had better teammates and he didn't carry his team alone like neo always, but he had GTR (most of the times he was better than patrick when he has been playing with him) Archi, Gux, Delpan and face - amazing teammates, skillwise, smartness on very high lvl but neo's team? Ok they are amazing too but comparing to f0rest's teammates they were worse.
Its a fact
Shorter version -> Neo carried his team alone, f0rest not really.
So its obvious who is better
f0rest always had better teammates and he didn't carry his team alone like neo always, but he had GTR (most of the times he was better than patrick when he has been playing with him) Archi, Gux, Delpan and face - amazing teammates, skillwise, smartness on very high lvl but neo's team? Ok they are amazing too but comparing to f0rest's teammates they were worse.
Its a fact
Shorter version -> Neo carried his team alone, f0rest not really.
So its obvious who is better
2012-09-04 23:21:10
I know it was his opinion, but I'm sure he'd laugh now at his comment. It is untypical for him writing X1>X2 ANY TIME :].
2012-09-04 23:50:35
Thats why I've posted this
2012-09-05 08:18:59
The skill-level of 2012 is way higher than it's ever been in CS, and at the very moment I'd say that Neo > anyone.
That being said, Neo is the best 1.6-player, if you don't compare to others per year and so on. Because a 2012 neo would beat a 2005 Potti, if y'all get what I mean. :)
That being said, Neo is the best 1.6-player, if you don't compare to others per year and so on. Because a 2012 neo would beat a 2005 Potti, if y'all get what I mean. :)
2012-09-04 23:51:12
Skill level is higher, so a lot of players are equal...
just like markeloff, Neo, trace, starix, Edward, GeT_RiGhT, f0rest
they all are just equal. but some of them have more fanboys than others.
just like markeloff, Neo, trace, starix, Edward, GeT_RiGhT, f0rest
they all are just equal. but some of them have more fanboys than others.
2012-09-05 19:34:19
youre probably right, every of these players has the potential to be motM in important finals. Cant say who's better in general :)
2012-09-06 22:29:46
Glad that someone understood it. :)
2012-09-07 09:09:36
thats whatcha talkin bout http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZcmTl_1ER8
2012-09-05 19:29:09
if its true - hahahah f0rest just have no chance to compare with neo :))
2012-09-06 23:53:14
I just can't believe a coment nixon did, made all this mess,grow up kids..it's just his opnion.
wtf
wtf
2012-09-06 23:59:29
So ?
2012-09-07 12:02:33
and what if his a fanboy iguess many people is?
2012-09-07 13:03:42
lol's
2012-09-09 03:54:06
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