let me just tell you in 2008 for sure more than 50% of polish players were non steams, now I think it's a little less than 50%, and yes all those servers are on gametracker, join any polish FFA and check it out for yourself
I think at least 70% of the Russians who play CS regularly don't have Steam and 50% of them have no idea what it is. Well, those 50% call everyone a cheater while saving their glocks, but it's a different issue.
Are you questioning whetever there are nonsteam players? Really? There are hundreds (if not thousands) of nonsteam players basically in every country that can afford Pentium 3 and a internet connection.
I am questioning the claims people make around the non steam players, people have said there are well over 300k non steam players yet I just don't see that number realistic. I agree there is a good number of people who play non steam but I reckon that is really low.
If there was lots of players playing non steam why would tournaments suddenly drop a popular game? Why did DH Valencia just drop 1.6 when only 3 teams signed up.
I just don't make bold claims around non steam when there is no official way to know how many people don't have steam.
The number is not low. The only evidence i can provide you is sites like gametracker or game-monitor.
"If there was lots of players playing non steam why would tournaments suddenly drop a popular game? Why did DH Valencia just drop 1.6 when only 3 teams signed up."
Thats probably because nonsteam players are playing only on pub servers and the ones whoever actually bought are the ones who are interested in pro scene and that % isn´t that high either. Nonsteam players don´t give two shits about the pro scene.
If you want some "real facts" you should just download nonsteam cs 1.6 and try out few of the servers you can find in gametracker.
no need to be sarcastic, cs 1.6 could become free, the community would grow bigger and maybe thanks to that more people would buy cs:go, non steam players would join steam, get used to it and later they would be more likely to buy games supported by steam, is not a bad idea
True, but u cant stop cheaters. Yes there are cheaters, but then we have admins too. I agree good players are banned in pubs, but still better than having cheaters running around with AWPs headshotting the whole CT team in 3 seconds.
Then there would have to be some content which would cost something. All free 2 play games work like that. In general it would increase the amount of players playing cs 1.6, atleast for awhile. But it wouldn't revive the pro scene of cs 1.6.
You've got source on that?
If you're thinking of the last time VAC was updated(improved) you're thiking of the time VAC2 was released.
VAC has been active in detecting hacks ever since, though not that fast and not thorough. But still active.
its like football...if messi and ronaldo or any other top players will quit playing , will football be "deaded" ? i will still play with my friends, etc...plus there are tons of young players who don't even know who f0rest or NEO is and someday they will discover the competitive level, so yes since is so dead why valve doesn't give it for free ? League of Legends its free...people play it A LOT