PP - Best player faced (Pros' Perspective)
In the sixth edition of "Pros' Perspective" find out who Edward, Potti, mysse and 27 other past and present pros consider the best player they ever faced in a CS server.

Zonic's answer:
"What a silly question to be honest. There is no doubt in my mind that NEO is the best player ever to have played this game. He is in my book the most consistent player in the world and I can't count how many times he has been the reason for a Polish trophy."

Kapio's take:
"Markeloff. He is a player who doesn't make any mistakes in the game. One of the very few complete playersin the scene: he is an outstanding AWPer, good rifler and pistol player, and is smart too."

fisker's opinion:
"f0rest, personally I think he is the reason why fnatic had such success. His ability to take out multiple targets is just insane."

All 30 answers can be read below:
http://www.fragbite.se/?blogID=9&postID=340
(103 replies)
Created 2012-09-27 18:01 by: Thooorin
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2012-09-27 18:02:36
such a shitty suggestion, all schools who block sites would block proxies as well
2012-09-28 12:55:15
nop, my school block hltv but i can enter with proxies!
2012-09-29 10:46:21
Zonic says the truth
2012-09-27 18:03:35
There is no truth, it's just their opinions.
2012-09-27 18:15:47
I would rather go with Zonic's opinion than from some random people
2012-09-27 18:18:27
That's your opinion. My opinion is that your opinion sucks.

XZIBIT: OPINIONCEPTION

Post edited 2012-09-27 18:22:32
2012-09-27 18:21:51
Your Swedish, i can't blame you for that
2012-09-27 18:23:46
you're*.
2012-09-27 22:50:18
epic man !! it's not like it's really hard to learn !!
2012-09-28 00:20:40
Well like 75% here says f0rest, "even" most of the non swedish top players. Just suck it up and move on.
2012-09-28 09:56:34
Don't care
2012-09-28 12:37:25
so u cry now..
2012-09-28 12:52:01
So you say
2012-09-28 12:55:11
NEO > f0reST
2012-09-27 18:05:49
f0rest got more votes ;) Don't wanna give too much spoilers tho, let people read them themselves
2012-09-27 18:16:44
so i don't get your tag, yo like cocaine or something? haha
2012-09-27 23:54:13
First of all it's a nick, not a tag. And how do you get "cocaine" from it? I do love cocaine but kids like you aren't supposed to know about those kinda things.
2012-09-28 00:02:44
JAJAJAJAJAJAJ you're such a big idiot! i was trolling whit your NICK.

i'm seventeen have my plants of Super Lemon Haze here in my house! i don't use drugs. (marihuana ISN'T A DRUG) so...

BY THE WAY i walk a lot on the street and go to every nightclub here in my city and Buenos Aires too.. (i'm from Rosario) i think that i know a lot of things about it!
2012-09-28 15:40:58
If you grow your own why would you think of cocaine from my nick? I agree weed is not a drug. But gotta be honest, I do love cocaine
2012-09-28 15:52:42
Why sharing so many informations that no one here gives a shit about?
2012-09-28 20:23:24
+1
2012-09-30 00:59:03
...

Post edited 2012-09-28 13:55:18
2012-09-28 13:54:02
Hah failed counting them? :D
2012-09-28 13:57:52
yep :D
2012-09-28 15:16:24
Mostly f0rest and Neo, kind of obvious.
2012-09-27 18:16:55
n1
2012-09-27 18:29:40
nice reply by carn haha!
2012-09-27 18:30:14
zonic <3
2012-09-27 18:40:34
I will aim to release these more frequently, so we have get through all editions by the end of October.
2012-09-27 21:11:51
nice
gj btw
2012-09-27 21:21:36
thanks, they are really interesting ^_^
2012-09-27 21:22:33
Any other projects in mind? Why is this a fixed one? This PP could well carry on for a long time with the right subjects and exposure. I mean 1st go thru the thoughts about 1.6 history and players and then carry on with thoughts and stories about GO/future plans etc
2012-09-27 22:03:45
I asked all 15 questions of the players at once, so there are nine more editions of this feature. I have plenty of other features planned, some of which will come out between editions of this one, and other content.

I have always operated under the policy of not revealing specifics of content until it is going to happen for certain though. I think it's better to simply have content come out and people enjoy it, rather than promise people something and have even a 1% chance you don't deliver on it. That's always been my philosophy and it's worked out well during my career thusfar.

I don't know how long there will be an audience for CS stuff, but as long as there are people to read about it I'll be here to write about it, in one form or another.
2012-09-28 18:24:54
Oh so it was kinda fixed from the beginning. Nice work man thus far and I'm sure people are more than eager to see more. Now that CS GO might unite 2 scenes I'm sure that'll only bring in more intrest what comes to these legends of e-sports and their oppinions.

Respect
2012-09-28 19:10:39
next q: do u really think cs:go will have a bright future?
2012-09-27 22:37:04
Hope you do that, I really enjoy these little "interviews" or what you're gonna call it ;)!
2012-09-28 00:20:37
This is superior work you brought us, even if its "just" 30 top-players voices so we have to keep in mind its still kinda subjective but that doesnt makes it less intresting. :)



btw: Top 10 swedish greatest ever , etc. Will you make such list in (near) future? I remember you did Finlands Greatest some few months ago. ))
2012-09-28 10:10:09
I really like those pros perspective, keep it up !
2012-09-28 22:58:35
f0rest and neo
they are the best
2012-09-27 21:22:37
by: jame
#30
true
2012-09-27 23:18:07
markeloff
Edward
f0rest
Neo
GeT_RiGhT




the guys who was mentioned the most.
2012-09-27 21:52:16
f0rest - 12 times
NEO - 8 times
gtr - 3 times
markeloff - 2 times

Edward just once.. so he is on par with REAL, Potti, SpawN, etc.
But cool to place him second, you gotta be a huge fan x)
2012-09-28 09:04:31
it is just because of Na`Vi are the last-era-team :)
2012-09-28 10:34:59
neo the best. forest is not that good, not even close to neo's level
2012-09-27 21:58:12
LOL, f0rest's level is above all in the world...stop saying shit
2012-09-27 22:52:14
you are f0rest fanboy so who cares ?
2012-09-28 04:14:01
agree +1
2012-09-28 06:19:22
agree with most of them
neo and forest are the best forsho
2012-09-27 22:03:29
neo, f0rest the best players on the world
2012-09-27 22:16:44
i seriusly think get_right gave more problems to other teams than f0rest did in these last years
2012-09-27 22:26:54
I would agree, only because he's the lurker. He's the guy shooting you in the back while the CTs rotate to the other bombsite, lol.
2012-09-28 03:12:24
gtr is not the lurker , or wtf u wnat to call him , people h8 him so much that they cant understand he is so much stronger than f0rest , he is the madfragger in every team he joins , since that BOT "PITA" said that he is overrated many people start judging him like a defensive player , i must remember u that pita cant aim , he is fucking baddie

Post edited 2012-09-28 16:16:22
2012-09-28 16:15:38
lol potti wit the ksharp shoutout. representin!
2012-09-27 22:27:44
NEO is really best player in the world and f0rest same but if i must choice one i will choice NEO for me its like 51% for NEO and 49% for forest, top3 is easy to choice 1. neo and forest 2. gtr 3. markeloff/trace

Post edited 2012-09-27 22:50:39
2012-09-27 22:47:30
f0rest won, neo has noob spray to be honest..
2012-09-27 22:52:43
Just another way of asking who do you think the best player is?
2012-09-28 00:01:11
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#35
Taking into account that it includes the condition of actually having played against that player, no.
2012-09-28 00:09:03
Taking into account the category of people he's asking the questions from, the answers aren't going to be tough to figure out. As actually evidenced by the answers given.
2012-09-28 00:16:53
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#42
Depending on the teams, players meet more often than others, but, as far as I see it, having a hard time against a given player does not automatically make him the best player (overall).

And therefore, as said, I wouldn't see it as 'asking who do you think the best player is'.
2012-09-28 00:28:49
yeah,propably :(
2012-09-28 00:10:34
Example:

Some random dude on public server gives me hard time every time I face him and I cannot beat him.

but

I have never played against f0rest (obviously, d'oh).

So: The best player I have ever faced would be that kid. That, however, doesn't mean he is better than f0rest at all.
2012-09-28 09:08:42
"PP - Best player faced (Pros' Perspective)"
2012-09-28 17:48:57
And the key word is FACED.
2012-09-28 17:57:04
So you genuinely believe that all of those players (with the exception of a few oldschoolers, but probably not even them) won't all have played against each other? Which planet are you from?
2012-09-28 18:00:00
as Jonathan said above:

"Depending on the teams, players meet more often than others, but, as far as I see it, having a hard time against a given player does not automatically make him the best player (overall)."
2012-09-28 18:03:16
+1
2012-09-28 19:26:11
I would say 60% NEO 40% f0rest in general, but depends on days :)
2012-09-28 00:07:16
70% f0rest 30% neo
2012-09-28 00:22:04
10% skill,10% concentrated power of will
2012-09-28 02:37:11
20% skill, 15% concentraded power of will*

Post edited 2012-09-28 08:44:51
2012-09-28 08:44:14
f0rest dominated this game very long time, he is the best player ever lived on this planet and touch cs 1.6, he is the hardest opponent for all players who play with him
2012-09-28 00:23:19
lol

Post edited 2012-09-28 02:37:37
2012-09-28 02:36:46
lets post the last messages you have written.

"LOL, f0rest's level is above all in the world...stop saying shit"

"70% f0rest 30% neo"

"f0rest won, neo has noob spray to be honest.."

"f0rest: me"

f0rest izi pizi


Post edited 2012-09-28 19:33:29
2012-09-28 19:32:17
and?
2012-09-28 22:46:10
stop trolling.
2012-09-29 10:40:24
omg ok ok stfu now we all know that u fanboy :)

Post edited 2012-09-29 10:52:57
2012-09-29 10:52:50
many people did not give any explanations for neo , the name itself is quite a tough opponent faced . :))
2012-09-28 02:43:07
in my opinion
Neo the most complete player.
f0rest the best aimer.
2012-09-28 04:23:33
cArn, dsn, face, all f0rest teammates, picked neo :P
and neo picked f0rest.
I bet if f0rest has pick one, its neo xD
2012-09-28 06:04:23
u right
2012-09-28 16:12:27
This actually changed my mind to neo>forest haha
2012-09-29 13:51:47
and trace, once f0rest teammate in sk for a while, also played as a teammate with neo for some all-star match or showmatch, not sure by now
picked neo :P
2012-09-28 06:15:20
zonic should stop bullshiting since Na`Vi was raping them the most.
2012-09-28 07:10:10
If you take a closer look at the score many of those matchups its more like 16-14 and those "marathon" -OT's were navi eventually - not only had skill on their side but also a bit of a luck. But yeah in the end its all about winning. Second-places/runnerups are in the most extensions the forgotten ones in historybooks.
2012-09-28 10:25:03
This seems relevant:
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/34420-mTws_unwinn..
2012-09-29 12:59:04
Neo gave a hard time to the Danes before Navi even appeared,douche
2012-09-28 20:46:47
Yeah but they didn't constantly lose ;)
2012-09-28 21:11:40
mysse:
SpawN COS HE MY DAAAAAWG and he hella scary when he got his shit going. He was the black hulk, he was unstoppable.

hahahahahaha
2012-09-28 07:31:17
i think mysse is black inside ;)
2012-09-28 15:18:23
dling fnatic vs logitech...
2012-09-28 08:25:55
mysse:
SpawN COS HE MY DAAAAAWG and he hella scary when he got his shit going. He was the black hulk, he was unstoppable. HAHAHAHAHAHA
2012-09-28 10:24:10
I thought Neo will say trace :], but I guess he had memorable matches against f0rest.
2012-09-28 13:50:48
well f0rest used to be neo's favorite player
2012-09-28 14:11:50
Since ive met both f0rest and neo in an official match i must say neo, he just jumped around destroying us :(
2012-09-28 14:05:03
when was the match versus neo?
2012-09-28 17:32:57
trace the best AIMER!!!
2012-09-28 14:19:09
I would love to see f0rest's answer
2012-09-28 17:12:38
f0rest: me
2012-09-28 17:50:48
nice article.
2012-09-28 17:28:11
f0rest&Neo=CS 1.6!
2012-09-28 18:32:54
f0rest is f0rest
2012-09-28 19:05:57
NEO:
f0rest. There was a time when he had only few bullets left in his USP, but we still knew he could just make us disappear.
2012-09-30 09:48:32

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