why is the awp so bad?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3og3PTuKQco&hd=1

happens to me every game and pretty sure it happens to the majority of players out there.

What is wrong with it? Why hasn't it been fixed. Why does valve release a dota2 update every 2 weeks and a csgo one every 2 months?

All the answers can be found in my latest novel : fps is dead.
(524 replies)
Created 2013-04-25 00:56 by: SWAGHETTI_YOLONESE
by: lemSa
#1
Why does valve release a dota2 update every 2 weeks and a csgo one every 2 months?

Because those 2 are totally different developer teams.

DotA 2 devs are 10x smarter than GO's unfortunately..
2013-04-25 01:02:39
don't worry, i am well aware - it was a rethorical question :D
2013-04-25 01:04:24
You misspelled retarded.
2013-04-26 07:36:24
dont think so
2013-04-26 08:40:13
rofl
2013-04-27 11:16:11
you are very rethorical
2013-05-28 01:10:31
hahah
2014-01-12 21:47:33
lol.
2014-01-12 22:42:14
u bad , awp is fine
2014-04-20 05:59:34
retard
2014-04-20 09:56:51
why ?
ccuz am telling the truth ?
2014-04-21 23:35:22
why should they update csgo? they were updating csgo when it was beta aswell as it is dota2 not.. csgo in fine as it is and stop talking about recoil and movement updates.
2013-04-25 18:03:45
Another noob enjoying the dumbed down CS version eh?
2014-01-12 23:37:34
another 1.6 fanboy detected. and btw ive posted that like 1 year ago and you're still replying to me? seriously? CSGO IS FINE NOW AS IT IS AND IT DOESNT NEED AND MOVEMENT OR RECOIL CHANGES!
2014-01-12 23:55:50
You're clearly unable to differentiate a game that's good for competitive play vs a game for casuals if you think CSGO is fine as it is.

CSGO is horrendous. It's riddled with a plethora of problems that are detrimental to both competitive play and enjoyability.

Only a noob/low level player would be unable to realize that.
2014-01-13 01:59:52
+1
2014-01-14 19:53:27
Replying to #1 so ppl can see this

The AWP has been like this since beginning of CSGO beta. There was a command (weapon_debug_show_spread 1) you could use in beta that showed you a yellow box that showed the spread of weapons even the awp. This let you see exactly what happens with the awps accuracy.

When you first scope in with awp it is very inaccurate, to the point you might be better off noscoping instead of doing 1.6 style quickscope. From there it slowly gets more accurate and takes probably about half a second to get to max accuracy.

Now here's the worst part. Even when it gets to max accuracy it has the same accuracy as an AK47 and Glock while standing up and still. If you crouch the accuracy gets slightly better to the accuracy of about an M4. This is so bad that on Dust2 picking mid from T spawn you can shoot directly in between the doubledoors and your shot can hit the doors instead of going in between. Makes picking mid incredibly luck based.

That's how it's always been in CSGO and I try to tell most people but they don't believe it.
2013-04-26 21:54:59
false
2014-04-20 04:29:48
Why dont you post this on official steam CSGO forum with the quotes from top players? Atleast developers will get a chance to see that.

Post edited 2013-05-27 14:21:39
2013-05-27 14:21:23
Because I have quit CS:GO and I don't care anymore.
2013-05-27 22:59:49
Same. It's such a horrible game. It's astonishing to me how so many former CS players can stand to play it...
2014-01-12 23:45:00
+1
thank you, thank you.
2014-01-13 01:45:06
Or it is the fact that dota2 is 150015015 times bigger and therefor has more people working on it? Turd
2014-01-14 16:55:50
i bet u dont know the history of dota updates...
#noclue
2014-01-15 16:35:53
by: VxO4
#3
Dont know man delpan seems to hit everything with it :D
2013-04-25 01:06:06
plus fucking one
2013-04-25 11:15:34
never happens to me
2013-04-25 01:09:06
by: mm2
#5
it happens so fucking much, and its a HUGE joke it havnt been fixed yet
2013-04-25 01:14:05
+1!
2013-04-25 01:57:13
The fact it doesn't happen to everyone means a possible net problem your end? AWP works fine for me.
2013-04-25 12:07:35
Everywhere I see you post something, you're always being a bitch in it. My ping is usually 5 and it happens to me lots of times and with more many players.


Post edited 2013-04-25 14:27:38
2013-04-25 14:26:24
I wasn't being bitchy mate lol just pointing out a possible problem. If it works for some and not for others, it can't be the AWP itself, why would it work for some? that's problem solving 101. how's that being bitchy? Also, you can get packet loss etc... with having a good ping.
If people keep it nice, I'm nice. If people troll someone or are just being a general tit, then they will get my less reserved side. for instance, I've flamed Guardian below as i felt he was being arrogant to a few people on here.

Post edited 2013-04-25 16:19:44
2013-04-25 16:14:17
for me works good too
2013-04-25 16:09:19
+1
2013-04-25 12:19:52
Nothing wrong with awp in CS:GO, you just dont know how to play with it.. Deal with it and better play rifles.
2013-04-25 01:38:11
did u actually check the video? he has the crosshair straight on the body and velocity is zero so he is not moving.. this happens to me all the time. I had to play main awp for my team for a while and I just raged out cause of those shots. I can make these amazing fuckin shots but cant hit the easiest ones like those on the video.. it just blows ur mind off.

Post edited 2013-04-25 01:55:58
2013-04-25 01:55:27
who the hell cares about random DM server? on tick 64 can everything happen
2013-04-25 01:59:28
I am not talking about a dm server am I?
2013-04-25 02:00:00
"did u actually check the video? " - theres a DM server, so tell me ur story bro

Post edited 2013-04-25 02:00:38
2013-04-25 02:00:22
well I just said this happens to me also.. on DM and on matches, Ive played for like 13 years of CS & main awping for my teams around 2005 for like 3 years.. I know when my shot is off or not and I can accept the fact if I miss.. I surely do much of that also since I'm an old dude for this game by now, but this is an issue on the awp. dont know if its the fast zoom or what the heck is the matter, my style of awping is a lot of fast zooms and midrange combats so I think its on the fastzoom.. its not 100% accurate and u have to wait for some time before taking on the shot even though ur crosshair is open and pointed at the body of an enemy already.

--edit--

so ultimately I think I know what the issue is but the inaccuracy should be taken out from the point on when the scope is ON cause it limits skill to be forced to wait untill its 100% accurate.

--edit--

and yeah therefore its about getting used to it but oh my is the awp fucked up if u have to wait it to settle down even though ur sight is on the money already.. seen top awpers miss shots like that and this issue has gone trough my mind and said to myself "oh well, not his fault."

Post edited 2013-04-25 02:09:05
2013-04-25 02:04:02
Theres nothing wrong with awp and you can talk to me with ur nice stories, but the AWP is completely OK. Never happened to me and never will. if i miss, then ill miss coz of my bad. CS:GO is completely different game and you have to understand the game, not just to play it and play it as much as you can.

Post edited 2013-04-25 02:11:49
2013-04-25 02:08:27
did not mean to bore u with my "stories". I just tried to back up what I said that I know when something is wrong and when not.. well mby u just have a different style or something since Ive seen that happen to people while spectating or watchin a stream. and as u can see there r even now people on this thread saying it has happened to them too. this happens like 1 out of 10 shots or so.. on average.

--edit--

and yes I totally understand that its not 1.6, I like this game more now & enjoy it.. and I dont really care about this problem on a competitive level cause I personally dont use AWP anymore. end of discussion anyways since it hasnt happened to u and it has for many people like me and the author of this thread etc.. so the problem might be elsewhere.. like internet/routing/something similar..

Post edited 2013-04-25 02:14:34
2013-04-25 02:11:44
As I said, you guys have to understand the game and how certain things are working, playing or practicing wont help it.

Post edited 2013-04-25 02:13:58
2013-04-25 02:13:33
by: teco
#34
I laughed my ass of to your arguments. "understand the game" bla bla bla. You are one of those idiots who think like "if I don't have that problem then the problem doesn't exists". Oh God how funny you are.

I'm not blind nor retarded. I have played 1.6 since 2005 and shit like that never happened to me except on some very bad servers hosted with 52k modems and Pentium 3 computers back in the days.

If I'm playing csgo on a good sever, I'm standing and enemy standing, I shoot him to middle of the chest or stomach and he doesn't die, what's your fucking explanation for that? I don't understand the game?

There are three possible reasons: the awp is inaccurate, the game has some really fucked up hitboxes or the netcode of the game is absolute shit.

I hope you can give me a proper and honest answer.
2013-04-25 02:42:00
you do realise who your talking to?
2013-04-25 02:57:02
Oh please, like it matters. Just because he can click models in a game better than us doesn't mean he has to be as arrogant and unrespectful.
2013-04-25 03:29:30
Haha too bad I can't favourite posts.
2013-04-25 07:31:18
wrong reply haha

Post edited 2013-04-25 09:06:06
2013-04-25 09:05:43
I actually agreed on him..
2013-05-27 11:45:29
and Teco is being very sincere isn't he.

Besides that is not my point, if you want to know it just read a couple lines below.
2013-04-25 09:06:25
Great post ;)
2013-04-25 12:11:21
by: teco
#65
Of course I do. And why are you asking?
2013-04-25 03:53:57
Because it seems like you think he has 0% clue about the game, yet i am sure he has explored a lot more than you, regardless of the fact that he is "superior". While also saying cs since 2005 is not a valid argument, seeing that it is totally a different game, different engine, and pretty much different "physique" to the game. What i am pointing out is that he most likely has a lot more hours, with a lot more competitive knowledge and game knowledge to understand what is actually happening. For example when i started off with the awp, i couldn't hit much. But when i "slowed" down the shots, like wait a tiny bit longer, everything started to hit. But yes your right in the sense that this shouldn't be the case, and should be hitting perfectly, but this world also prove his point that you do not understand the game of CS:GO.
2013-04-25 09:03:39
Its a fact you cant quiickscope in csgo and not even semi-quick ;)

Guardian is a good awper cuz he doesnt quickscope, he got used to csgo really well :)

Some ppl dont transfer that well and are stuck in the same pattern, from 1.6 quickscoping etc ;)

When quickscoping will be properly introduced in csgo players like friis and markeloff wil gain even more skill, dont know about css players cuz I've never followed that game :)

Quickscoping was a huge weapon for an awper, the awper in my team (who quickscoped 90% of his shots) had some probs to transfer aswell :)

Cheers
2013-04-25 09:43:31
Nega did 90% of his shots on quick scope in 1.6? naaaaaaa ;)
2013-04-25 18:23:44
Its for the sake of the argument mainz :o
2013-04-25 21:22:44
So many lies!
2013-04-25 21:36:44
CSGO awp is fucked up yaaaaw
2013-04-26 02:18:00
Finally some1 who's sensible...

Not like the Dane mentioned above :o
2013-04-26 02:50:54
Pffff -.-
2013-04-26 02:50:02
by: teco
#96
"Because it seems like you think he has 0% clue about the game"

Never said that. 100% nonsense like everything else in your post.

"While also saying cs since 2005 is not a valid argument, seeing that it is totally a different game, different engine, and pretty much different "physique" to the game"

You clearly didn't get my point. Pff.

"What i am pointing out is that he most likely has a lot more hours, with a lot more competitive knowledge and game knowledge to understand what is actually happening."

Doesn't chance my experiences and has nothing to with the subject. I bet you have never played with top players cuz you think they are above us "normal players" mentally.

" i "slowed" down the shots, like wait a tiny bit longer, everything started to hit"

Again, the problem isn't the fast shots. I hit my fast shots almost every time but if I don't, then I just fail.

"but this world also prove his point that you do not understand the game of CS:GO."

So if I tell you that I can't hit easy awp shots (as most of the people here complaining too) it means that I don't understand the game at all? Ok, funny logic you have.

Wanna go 1on1? pm me tomorrow so I get a server and lets play.
2013-04-25 09:44:43
Omg ur so mad and childish. Why on earth would i go do a 1v1, when it is not even the point of the argument nor am i saying i am any good. Lol funny u dont use this 1v1 argument vs guardian. Clearly u have no priorities in ur life then just rage about cs:go i mean do u even study??
2013-04-25 11:17:55
How far do you want to climb up gaurdians ass you no name random ppl from ur country all same like u such fan omg fukin noobs with the skill of a sauté potat0
2013-04-25 11:23:30
New account to insult. Fucking pussy
2013-04-25 12:34:05
nice comeback u chode i wud slap the acne off ur face this is my real account u mongolese wilderbeast
2013-04-25 20:41:24
0/10
2013-04-25 20:43:26
10/10
2013-05-28 00:51:07
lmfao
2014-01-12 22:45:15
I'm not mad. You seem to be the mad one here. :)

"Why on earth would i go do a 1v1, when it is not even the point of the argument"

It's very relevant since you told me that I don't understand the game and 1on1 is a good way to see if it. Let's see if you can stand behind your words after it.

"Lol funny u dont use this 1v1 argument vs guardian"

Could it possibly be that he's a top player in this game? You are just a random noob telling how bad I'm so...

"Clearly u have no priorities in ur life then just rage about cs:go i mean do u even study??"

Irrelevant nonsense again but I can answer it anyways. Actually I have priorities and I'm studying in high school. I don't rage about the game I just calmly tell some facts. Some csgo fanatics like you just get mad when people give criticism including some cold facts about your lovely game and this don't please you. You should learn the difference between argumentation and raging.
2013-04-25 23:36:11
So beating a noob in 1v1 is a way to prove you understand? What if you lost? It would be the game mechanics fault? Shouldn't you be proving it at a top level? DUH?

I have played 1.6 since 2003, and i have hardly started cs:go as i have university commitments, even thou i would like the time to play cs:go more. So i am unfortunately not like one of your typical British "source" or "go" players. Bad luck

When did i say you are bad? I pointed out GuardiaN is most likely to be more experienced then you , so therefore he is probably right about the game.

You should just re-read your conversation with GuardiaN, because you clearly look irritated with him, because he does not agree with your opinion and i see you have not replied to the other several people who have disagreed with you. Yet you have already lost the argument, so you can only reply with absolute nonsense and rubbish to make you feel that you are still in this argument.

I understand now. Your in High School, a lot of free time, that is why you have devoted so much time, to also try to understand the game mechanics. When i meant priorities. I meant do you have other better things to do then to continue this pointless conversation, instead of replying every part of my reply. Also something that is possibly not counter-strike related? It's okay i was like you once.

An example is your desperation in copying and pasting part of my of reply, and trying to justify that what i was said was incorrect.

Maybe you should learn to accept when you are defeated. I'm out so don't bother writing an essay and copying and pasting pretty much reply and adding a few things like "actually i play sports" , maybe we will engage in another conversation in another thread, i am sure we will, your arrogance is off the roof.
2013-04-26 07:23:57
You clearly have some difficulties at understanding some basic stuff. :) And again you dare to post some irrelevant nonsense. Pff.

Post edited 2013-04-26 14:46:12
2013-04-26 14:45:55
To someone who plays CS 24/7 and made almost more clicks on mouse like he did approachs with his foots?

Post edited 2014-01-14 19:23:03
2014-01-14 19:22:26
Everybody feels bad for you since this never happened to you in 1.6 =( Do you know what? This never happened to me either when I played Call of Duty on xbox =(( Game sucks because of that.
2013-04-25 03:32:31
You keep on arguing that your were able to awp well in 1.6 for so many years, but his point is that it doesn't matter, since GO is a different game.

You never asked yourself why so many legends from 1.6 were not in shape on CS:GO ? The key is to adapt, those who don't, well... you saw what happened.

You keep talking about a problem which Guardian has solved. Why don't you try to find the solution instead of just relying on "It has to be a bug, it has to be fixed." ?

I was also disturbed by the awp in CS:GO at first, so disturbed that I recorded a demo on an awp map and watched all frags one by one on very slow motion to check if I was on my target or not. I found out that everytime I thought I hit, I was either moving or not on target. I'm not an awper so I didn't analyze my issue any further, but maybe it can help you to understand why you miss so many shots.

I wish you good luck and hard work (especially the latter).

2013-04-25 08:21:18
You clearly aren't using it right if you are missing people standing still... the game isnt 1.6, the mechanics dont work like 1.6, you can't use the awp like its 1.6. The gun is dead accurate if you know how to move whilst shooting with it.
2013-04-25 08:53:40
How is it possible to use it wrong when you stay still and enemy stay still, you have zoomed in, just click in his chest and nothing happens? How is it possible to do this easy thing wrong? Explain it expert.
2013-04-25 16:39:10
... if you cant hit someone standing still that aint the guns fault. I agree that hitboxes will never be perfect so sometimes with both of you moving you get interesting results. But 2 people standing still? You just cant aim.
2013-04-25 23:07:22
Saw it live in some professional match on mirage. It's been quite long, I can't remember exactly which teams were involved, but it is not about me aiming bad. And I am not talking about CS:GO not registering shots, when you clearly see that people got shot or dinged in headshot. Ding, no dmg ftw :)
2013-04-26 07:59:47
so to be good at this game you have to actually aim NOT on the enemy to hit ??? are you blind or did you not watch the video ? this shit happens all the time with the awp, on good servers too

Post edited 2013-04-25 11:20:23
2013-04-25 11:19:33
Why do you have that 3DMAX tag in front of your name ?
2013-05-27 10:37:09
Thats not true.. It happens for me aswell. And many others. Its also really wierd that you cant zoom and shoot fast. Then it doenst hit where your scoop is. Maybe its how they want the awp to be. But its still true what he says. There is a bug with it. And it have to be fixed. I can see you are one of the best with awp now. Thats why you think its really good. I dont say it will help for any of us others. But ONE thing im sure about its. If valve are going to fix the awp so its actulley can be used in close battles like it could in 1.6 where you dindt have to zoom 10 years before you shoot. Then you could see alot of 1.6 players there actulley could do alot more damage with the awp.
2013-04-25 12:04:19
Well, but its really not the problem of awp. The hitboxes are really different as they were in CS16 or CS:S. You have to hit 100% of the player. For example in cs16 when you hit between legs then 90% of times u made at least 84 damage. In CS:GO you have to hit the exact spot on the body or u wont get a single damage. Thats happens with ALL guns, not only with AWP
2013-04-25 13:54:38
Its not what im talking about. I talk about if you shoot people right in the chest its bugs alot. Its easy for me to say. Its have nothing to do how bad i am with awp in this game. Its only my own fault. But its just a fact that the awp have more issues in the other weapons i agree there are some hitbox issues with any other weapons aswell. But hopefully its gonna be fixed. I cannot just agree with you. I have more than 10 demos where i can show the same shoot fail many times in the exact same spot. Its have something to do with this game.. And its not shots you fail with ak/colt, but only the awp because its have that issue..
2013-04-25 14:19:22
it happened to me only on ESEA pugs, but not on a normal server. So I cant say that its not possible, but for example on lan server or on a normal online server thats impossible imo. Thats all i can say about it. - And this can happen when you are really fast or YOU want to shoot faster for example when trying to kill a defuser. But thats more "real", coz u have to stop for few miliseconds before you shoot. If you think that this should be fixed, then I agree with all of these comments and Ill appologize to all for my flame

Post edited 2013-04-25 14:29:20
2013-04-25 14:23:56
I have demos both online and from lan where it shows. But its seems like your the only one without that issue with the awp..:P
2013-04-25 14:28:34
Coz probably I found out how to avoid this problem? :) Believe me, theres a way how to at least decrease these "misses"..
2013-04-25 14:30:14
How ? its must be a command in the config then. I have tryet everything when shooting. And i havent found any ways to avoid that one.
2013-04-25 14:31:33
yeah.. its a command in the config :D:D:D:D AHAHAHAHAHAHA, LOL
2013-04-25 14:34:32
I might be wrong but thats all about movement. - I admit all of your opinions, but when i watched at least 10 of my demos, it happened to me once in ESEA pug
2013-04-25 14:37:34
Don't waste any more of your time arguing with that arrogant prick GuardiaN (nice fakenicking of a former Finnish pro player btw). In last month he told on deadred that the awp is broken but now he's defending it like it was his own baby.
2013-04-26 00:29:29
Just crouch and wait 50 years for your zoom. Or roll the dice and quickzoom, you might get lucky..! :D

But yea just crouch when you are gonna shoot, the awpbullet sometimes not "registering" is not a bug, it is just the AWP not being 100% accurate when standing.
2013-04-26 02:17:16
Checked every demo of my own playing with awp. Checked them all in like 10% speed of normal, the shots i missed was just because of the fact i actually missed. Like Guardian said only with quick flick reactions i start to miss shots which is kinda realistic. For example if i stand completely still in the Outside MAC in Nuke and i'm 1x zooming towards the boxes outside and someone shows up behind red and i try to flick them I miss them 50% of the time even when i see that the crosshair is on his body, is kinda the way it should be imo realisticly youre gonna need a second aswell.

AWP is just alot harder then it was in Source or 1.6. It really needs more gamesense and good crosshair placement for you to succeed. In Source for example it was way to easy to just rush down Banana and get a peak.

I think the tickrates of the servers are still affecting the gun behaviour just as it was on the previous source engine, but don't really had the time yet to test it out.

Post edited 2013-04-26 11:59:59
2013-04-26 11:58:54
>I miss them 50% of the time even when i see that the crosshair is on his body, is kinda the way it should be

LMAO. Jesus christ man. Idiots like you are only helping to maintain the awful quality of this game.

"you should miss 50% of the time even when your crosshair is on the body"

Jesus christ.
2014-01-12 23:57:22
It's about the delay, try flickshotting in real life with a sniper i'm sure you will 90% of your shots.

And please keep yourself busy about things you know stuff about. Cba to discuss with a retard who bumbs a topic from over 8 months ago when their've been plenty of changes to the game. peace
2014-01-13 10:25:06
Dude... CS is NOT a realism game. If you want a realism FPS there are plenty to choose from. It's fucking ridiculous to ruin what CS is. CS is unique. It's the most popular competitive team-based FPS ever! And CSGO is destroying the core of what made CS so great.

And I didn't bump this thread.

Also, I've been following all of the CSGO updates since the beta and there have been no netcode fixes for the horrible registry.
2014-01-13 11:12:25
friis are you fucking stupid? you are comparing 1.6 with cs:go? nothing will be changed so that means you have to switch from awp to rifle.

Post edited 2013-04-25 14:19:45
2013-04-25 14:19:19
The fact its just that is funny that markeloff,aslak,delpan,allu,karrigan,trace.. People there was the best awpers in the hardest game aimwise. Are so much behind the source players. When it comes to awp.. I know why im so bad with the awp in this game. And its my own fault. I dont use the issue of the fails there are in this game about my game. I know im not that good. Thats what i have to work with. But i cant believe the same things im bad to with the awp. Comes to markeloff and people there was level above me in 1.6...
2013-04-25 14:22:09
you and the rest should contact Fifflaren. he will teach you all, dont worry.
2013-04-25 14:24:41
Sadly for you he agree with me on this one:::)
2013-04-25 14:27:44
dunno why your replying to some idiots who dunno not shit about his life.
2013-04-27 13:29:10
Nice fake/troll account idiot.. You made it just because to reply to Friis?
2013-04-25 14:56:40
huehuehueheuheuhehue you so funny m8 huehuehuehuehuehue
2013-04-25 16:15:48
LMAO
2013-05-28 01:10:08
markeloff trolled you because they were out in cph because of YOU. now he is laughing about you :=)
2013-04-25 14:48:03
what a douche you are
2013-05-14 05:22:13
Markeloff is top 3 in my opinion, which is pretty good considering how late they switched, the others you listed aren't exactly fair listings, i mean aslak didn't play for long, delpan has not played officially and he also transferred late, and then the rest that you have listed are primarily backup awpers, and as far as i can tell have not given the awp a fair chance or practiced it for long enough to be compared to other primary source players that have completely devoted themselves to getting better at the awp.

And you i would potentially consider top 3, i have seen great games by you, i just think you are lacking consistency which should come with more practice and time, or you need to start looking at new ways of playing with the gun if you feel that it isn't just a practice and time issue.
2013-04-27 21:36:49
guardian owned with awp both in source and in 1.6, now he is owning in GO, problem?
2013-05-27 10:03:51
"A bad artist always blames his brush"

Obviously not the case for Guardian..
2014-01-12 22:36:24
me too lol!
2013-04-25 23:43:39
:D
2013-04-26 00:21:12
+1!
2013-04-26 00:18:19
+1
2013-04-27 13:19:13
by: mm2
#25
so all the other vids from matches are also just DM 64tick server...

maybe u should fix some glasses....
2013-04-25 02:16:55
Before you reply to me, check what are we talking about or just shut up man. Never happened on 128 and never will, thats impossible to happen, only if you are noob(ARE YOU?) - You can flame or hate me whatever, but you wont change that fact. AWP IS COMPLETELY OK

Post edited 2013-04-25 02:23:16
2013-04-25 02:22:20
by: mm2
#27
ohhhh your right so because u are a high lvled player u are always right, almost make sens.

so the vid of rattle from a 128tick server he posted a while ago with this issue, its also just a LOAD of crap?

because it dosnt happen to u, dosnt mean its not there...

btw why would i hate you, u are off no concern to me...
2013-04-25 02:28:27
I dont see any other video here except the one in the head of the thread. So what the hell are u talking about? - If you prove me that this can happen on a normal server, the same thing, then ill accept it.

Post edited 2013-04-25 02:30:34
2013-04-25 02:29:42
by: mm2
#29
there was a long post about it on cadred, where ppl uploaded vids from pug on esea, and they run 128tick. and im sorry i didnt mean to be rude.

U just came off a bit like fuck u all stero typetype.

2013-04-25 02:32:10
it was 502502502 updates and 3-4 months ago.

SO PROBLEM SOLVED.
2013-04-25 02:37:15
by: mm2
#32
no it was 2 month ago, and no update to solve it sinc.. i checked.
2013-04-25 02:38:40
So if they dont write "AWP changed" does it mean that there wasnt any changes in GAME? - Thats not the problem of AWP, but the game and its already solved. Theres no more probs with AWP
2013-04-25 02:41:24
by: mm2
#35
well from the patch/update note i cant find anything that would solve it..

so what you are saying is that we should take your word for it, that it is solved?
2013-04-25 02:44:04
You can talk whatever you want, but theres nothing wrong with AWP. Last reply for me, good night
2013-04-25 02:48:02
+1 nothing wrong with the AWP
2013-04-25 03:33:43
shut the fuck up
2013-04-25 11:20:32
Love you too
2013-04-25 14:39:15
Guardian, I understand you're a very professional player and you simply are one of the best AWP players on CSGO. But you simply just can't tell a guy that he is a bad player just because that he has had the bug(bullet goes through the body by not doing any damage).
2013-04-25 15:04:29
I didnt tell to anyone that hes bad. And I agree with their problems, but you all have to admit, that CS:GO is a different game where u have to use more game factors to be more precise and accurate than in CSS or cs16. Thats all, my opinion, you can accept it but you dont have to...

Post edited 2013-04-25 15:11:57
2013-04-25 15:10:14
I agree with u. There is nothing wrong with awp, it's all about internet connection, rates, fps etc. some banal things.

Post edited 2013-04-25 15:54:53
2013-04-25 15:50:14
Hahaha, you didn't really? :) Check some of your posts you posted earlier. :)
2013-04-26 14:48:47
by: :'(
#278
Seen u miss someone twice and u were perfectly aiming at him on gina's stream and u even went like WHAT?!?!?!
2013-04-26 14:31:39
spec view in CS:GO is not that perfect yet, so in my view i could miss him twice normally.
2013-04-26 15:44:11
and it was a pug, so why should i complain about some misses?
2013-04-26 15:56:25
by: :'(
#324
U did so i dunno.
2013-04-26 20:13:22
by: mm2
#30
and just for the fun of it, u kinda said it aswell..

this is a QUOTE from yourself

The awp is fucked up since last 3 updates. this happening to me everytime i peak somewhere or someone's rushing from the spot i cover with awp. Easy shot = miss, i cant believe that i miss that much, but now I understand ;p TY for the video....


....

And its 2 month ago and there havnt been ANY changes to awp sinc.... i rest my case?
2013-04-25 02:35:09
by: teco
#36
Pwnd.
2013-04-25 02:44:11
guess the noob learned to play akakakaka
2013-04-25 06:54:31
you sir deserve a medal :D
2013-04-25 10:46:57
hahaha +1
2013-04-25 21:24:36
except if he donsent have at least 200 fps =))
2013-04-25 06:47:54
vel=0 , scope = body hit = 0

doesnt matter if its 64 tick DM or 128 tick esea pug, result is the same.

Arguments:

Game is different? Different doesn't have to mean unreasonably broken and buggy.

Play rifle? No thank you, I'll play what i want, whenever I want

Understanding the game? Stop movement, watch an angle, see enemy and shoot on his body ? Should be a kill but apparently the Normal OK awp behaviour you are trying to portray here thinks different.

And last but not least -

"
The awp is fucked up since last 3 updates. this happening to me everytime i peak somewhere or someone's rushing from the spot i cover with awp. Easy shot = miss, i cant believe that i miss that much, but now I understand ;p TY for the video...."

Just because you don't have a problem with it or you like it doesn't mean there isn't a problem. As I said, the MAJORITY of players have the same opinion and this thread proves it.

Please stop trying to defend something not even remotely close to a full product.

Post edited 2013-04-25 02:57:17
2013-04-25 02:54:08
Go and ask the "pros" what do they think. I dont care about some randoms out here - You can talk whatever you want, awp is completely ok. You cant hit? Thats not the problem of the awp nor the game. Try to find your own style and maybe it will be much better. But if you cant understand to a new game, then its sad for you.

Post edited 2013-04-25 03:03:03
2013-04-25 02:59:53
Exactly the kind of arrogant reply I expected.

'Randoms.'

I am sorry but your attitude is appauling. Not sure if its just because your english is at the level of a dried papaya or the rumours are true and your ego is even bigger then your ability.

Use your imagination. Imagine a scene, with only 16 teams full of 'Namers.' Since the rest don't matter, fuck them. They don't need to play the game - they are shit anyway.

Ok, so you have your 16 teams, suddenly struggling to get over 1000 viewers for your LAN finals, because hey, no one else plays the game coz they are randoms.

Your average top team suddenly retires, who will be next? No one,because randoms don't matter.

The game itself isn't about 'Namers' or 'Randoms', it's about the player liking the game and trying to make it better. If your idea of coexisting with lesser players is by thinking they have no right to voice their opinion and you don't need to respect it, then please wake the fuck up.



Not to mention that with 1000 viewers , doubt anyone would waste time sponsoring any events for csgo

Post edited 2013-04-25 03:12:43
2013-04-25 03:08:10
I dont care about any [email protected] and I never will. Im arrogant? Ok, then I am, i dont really care about it.

So your whole reply was totally useless, coz we are talking about the awp not about me.. - Wheres your "pro" opinion why is the AWP bad or why cant u hit a shit with awp?

btw its appaling not appaUling

Post edited 2013-04-25 03:15:10
2013-04-25 03:12:02
I have never really been a part of the czech/slovakian scene for a reason. It's either full of two faced czech people telling you that Slovaks are lesser people compared tothem or calling you a hungarian, or you have 12 year old kids on playzone with absolutely 0 clue about the game. That sums up the scene.

We did talk about the awp, but then you decided to talk about pros and randoms and how their/my opinion is irrelevant.

To be honest, I have nothing against you, but you must face the fact that this game is far from being complete and perfect ( FAR ).

As demonstraded above and bellow, the awp is random - kennyS misses 10 shots in a round with his scope being on the model. What does this tell us? Its ok its normal, awp is 'ok'. Nope

This tells us that the awp is infact still bugged as seen in many videos where you miss a clear awpshot at vel=0 .

You can keep saying stuff like, I don't care you are random and I am good with awp so there is no problem. In the end you will realise that trying to hide the fact there is a problem can lead to bigger and more severe consequences.

I wasn't actually insulting you over your grammar. It's late and I am not really going to spellcheck for someone as arrogant as yourself.


Post edited 2013-04-25 03:26:24
2013-04-25 03:22:40
He didnt miss because of the awp - he missed because he did bad in that situatition. Doing flickshots in CS:GO are much harder than in CS:S or CS16, you have to duck before you do a fast flick shot as he did(for example against NiP). Nothing to do with awp, its about the speed of his shots. Sometimes speed = less accuracy.

- I dont really care if Im a noob or not. And I dont care if my english is perfect or not, so if you do, thats ur problem not my.

Post edited 2013-04-25 03:31:09
2013-04-25 03:25:38
' I dont really care if Im a noob or not.'

Not really sure where this came from since I haven't actually called you a noob?

The first shot isn't a flickshot

/

Post edited 2013-04-25 03:32:03
2013-04-25 03:31:35
why you bhotter with this idiot? =))
2013-04-25 06:56:01
Guardian is the idiot. The reg/accuracy in CSGO is fucking awful.
2014-01-13 00:07:01
kennyS handle awp the best, he is the fastest, the most precise and he has the most awp kills per rounds, kennyS is one of the fastest players who ever played FPS games

true story
2013-04-25 11:12:36
fite me guardian, fite irl
2013-04-25 14:46:38
fist fait 1v1, no wepons
2013-04-26 14:42:45
bare hands fiting, get @ me
2013-04-26 14:49:48
High five to that, the so-called Czechoslovakian region has a scene which sucks balls.
2013-04-25 21:42:28
:D haha so true, it used to be run by this retard called
majklgo but I think hes gone now
2013-04-26 11:23:43
Who hits A shit? Learn to speak English before criticizing someone else u mediocre fuck.
2013-04-25 05:46:08
wtf do you want,teamless piece of shit guy overrated fuck
2013-04-25 06:55:19
guardiaN nº1
2014-01-12 20:13:27
VILLIG you should play on normal server. when i play with the awp and when i'm on his body, then he is always dead. analyze your demo correctly, the awp is fine atm and if you are not satisfied, then quit this game. 99% of the gamers are satisfied and players like you arent able to use this weapon. good night
2013-04-25 03:26:05
you do realise that is not infact me playing. As I stated, it happens on normal servers.
2013-04-25 03:27:18
yeah but you have to find out why you are not hitting the enemy. sometimes you do automatically ministeps, if you are able to overcome it, so you are a great awper.
in 1.6 or cs:s you were never able to kill the enemy with the awp while you are 'walking'. with perfect moves you are able to kill the enemy while you are walking in cs:go etc etc etc. now good luck by learning.
2013-04-25 03:31:33
thanks my friend, this gave me a massive confidence boost to learn and improve.

I will be spamming ctrl and pressing a d a d a d while trying to slowly aim with my scope on someone who is wasdaing me with his gun.

We got ourselves a game of the year edition ladies and gents



Post edited 2013-04-25 03:35:26
2013-04-25 03:34:54
yeah its true. if you deal with game so you know that we don't have 'bullet grouping' in cs:go. when you sprayed in 1.6 and cs:s then you had bullets in the same area randomly. but its not in cs:go anymore so you have to do ADADADAD and spray. its the same way with the awp but kinda different.
you see some noob players like Xizt who is doing ADADADAD when he not spotting enemys, he is doing this shit every time.
2013-04-25 03:42:06
the sad fact is, you see more and more 'pros' go for the ctrl+mouse1 full lately.
2013-04-25 03:44:05
why is it 'sad' ? the pro's are going to aim the head of the enemy to kill them so fast as they can. so it's not dumb to do crtl+mouse1 (SOMETIMES)... dude please you have to think about this game, there is a lack of knowledge.
2013-04-25 03:47:26
There is a lack of knowledge and then there is a lack of braincell. Unfortunately for you both of them are your key characteristics.
2013-04-25 03:48:53
what did you received in cs:go? i think _NOTHING_ so dont talk. you think that the pro's are doing ADADADAD or crtl+mouse1 because they are bored of this game? you have to use these things in right moments. you are right, if someone is doing this every time then he is probably bad player like you but yeah. if you are not satisfied with this game or if you think that the pro's are the dumbest players, so then quit this game. or create a team where you can play 1v5
2013-04-25 03:51:52
if you have fun in this game then you will hit everything. some players have fun when they are doing ADADAD, the others with crtl+mouse1 and you can create your own gamestyle like to jump+mouse1. if you have fun with it and when you are hitting, where is the problem? go for it! regards, trollmaster33.
2013-04-25 03:57:21
by: teco
#68
Don't reply to him anymore. He's just an ordinary low brain trying to argue using some irrelevant nonsense arguments.

Post edited 2013-04-25 04:13:29
2013-04-25 04:12:08
Tell me one irrelevant argument. Im trying to explain why ppl are doing ADADAD or crtl+mouse1. I mean if you are lazy to find out, then dont play this game just start another game. If you are not happy then go.. no one wants a guy who is whining
2013-04-25 04:21:59
by: teco
#70
You used them again.
2013-04-25 04:33:12
Ok you should quit this game. Im very honest dude. Please never start this game because it has non sense for you and for your life. Maybe you will get an heart attack because you are raging, whining that you dont hit anything in csgo.
2013-04-25 04:39:37
ye, I kind of gathered that by now
2013-04-25 10:46:03
Well said and end of the thread. Strange that anyrandom flamed you.
2013-04-25 08:44:52
No it wasn't, he was being an arrogant twat.
2013-04-25 15:31:35
synn is licking his ass, dont bother
2013-04-25 18:09:19
Licking? It's the attitude he has to have with ignorants and people who keep saying the same without any freaking decent argument.It's the same attitude any progamer has when they read people who doesn't know any shit despite they make it public or not. I don't care about GuardiaN ass god...licking a "CSGO player" is probably the most embarrasing thing you can do.

Post edited 2013-04-25 20:11:43
2013-04-25 20:11:10
if u dont care about his ass then why u suck him off like a nicaraguan mosquito in feeding season? shut the fuck up u no name random hanz
2013-04-25 20:45:56
Sucking? Where im doing it? Pardon?

No name random? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL BIGNARSTIE LOL WHO THE FUCK ARE U
2013-04-25 21:35:08
lmao
2013-04-26 11:24:21
hahahahaha
2013-04-27 19:17:23
Werent you whining about the GO awp some time ago yourself? :D Calling it a "CoD sniper rifle" or smth..?
2013-04-25 11:06:23
DFS.GuardiaN | 2 months ago [2013-02-11 20:39:08] Reply
The awp is fucked up since last 3 updates. this happening to me everytime i peak somewhere or someone's rushing from the spot i cover with awp. Easy shot = miss, i cant believe that i miss that much, but now I understand ;p TY for the video
DFS.GuardiaN | 2 months ago [2013-02-12 01:58:52] Reply
The only thing I can say about it is that the best choice is to play with rifles instead of awp(online). Its so useless to play with a bad gun. I hope it will be different on a lan server.


"Go and ask the "pros" what do they think. "
GuardiaN: The player, the awper I most respect is the one and only Rattlesnake. I

RattlesnK | 2 months ago [2013-02-11 21:33:02] Reply
Its been broken since beta and just never been fixed. It probably happens to me every other match at some point when it is clearly on them. You cant have that in a competitive match it just fucks you up so much more than an AK/M4 ---- miss = dead.

Post edited 2013-04-25 12:36:10
2013-04-25 12:29:02
++++++++++++++
2013-04-25 18:09:49
lmao

+1
2014-01-13 00:08:14
nicely told Guard.. ;)
2013-04-25 15:34:30
did you even bother reading the whole thread?
2013-04-26 11:25:52
yes.
2013-04-26 12:30:47
Nah ur just a little basement dwelling fanboy with your tongue literally wrapped around guardians balls hoping that he accepts you on steam
2014-01-12 22:25:28
hahahaha
2014-01-13 00:08:41
I'm not fanboy and I don't give a fuck for his steam...
2014-01-18 11:52:14
didnt u say some time ago, its a CoD awp?
2013-04-25 20:31:11
Yea man, I'm really good at awping in CS 1.6, CS:S and snipers in general for games outside of CS. CS:GO awp is random as heck I can't use it...
2013-04-25 01:46:17
hitbox in cs:go is better than source nothing to say about square 1.6 hitboxes it's only cause it's harder to play with awp
2013-04-25 01:48:40
It still makes no sense. I have absolutely no problems getting headshots with an ak/colt so it's not a hitbox/reg issue. The awp is just another hitscan weapon except it's one shot kill anywhere but the legs, I think the gun is random. There should be no differences between the 1.6/CSS/CSGO/CZ awps in how they function, yet most of us who awped great in 1.6/CSS are inconsistent in CS:GO.

Post edited 2013-04-25 01:55:26
2013-04-25 01:54:52
Just say about awp after played cs:go same hours as you played cs1.6/css. I think it's all about pracctice coz i have some problems with awp too.
2013-04-25 12:00:10
by: GoMeZ - HLTV.org
#12
you are playing on a dm server.
2013-04-25 01:58:52
happens on 128 tick servers to a lot of people.
2013-04-25 03:25:10
also it never happens to a lot of people
2013-04-25 03:36:26
'right' because 70% of the people posting in the thread having the same problem isn't some kind of a pattern
2013-04-25 03:37:51
sometimes it happens to me
2013-04-25 01:59:12
1st opponent could have bad lag.
2nd shot YOU have lag, you can even see it.
2013-04-25 02:01:10
this issue cant be about lag since it happens to me on my own server also. I think its somewhat seriously inaccurate fastzoom.
2013-04-25 02:05:06
kevlar vest too stronk ._.
2013-04-25 02:02:12
by: teco
#24
Happening to me all the time. It's so fucking frustrating.
2013-04-25 02:14:56
The game makes you wait way too long before shooting @ 0 velocity is 100% accurate. If you wait 0.2 sec @ 0 velocity it'll never be 100%.
2013-04-25 03:02:45
ye awp is random . you have to shoot much slower than 1.6's
2013-04-25 03:25:37
People who whine about awp in csgo are just bad with it and should stick to the rifles.
2013-04-25 03:34:35
what if I told you, I am better with awp than you and I do whine about it. Would it rock your world?
2013-04-25 03:39:42
you should quit this game, seriously. if you whine about every single shots that you dont hit, then please go and quit this game.
just have fun, the rest will come from alone. there are up and downs, sometimes you hit everything, sometimes you hit nothing. or simetimes you hit every time like pr0S*
2013-04-25 03:59:53
pros dont hit everytime because the awp is broken, learn to read
2013-04-26 11:27:01
Dude... that's fucking retarded. CSGO is a terribly flawed game. People like you who are saying we should just accept this bastardization of CS are only helping to kill the most popular competitive team FPS game ever.
2014-01-13 00:11:38
this does not only happen with awp :(, for some reason all weapons have this problem that some bullets "wont just regist as hits" it's really weird.
2013-04-25 04:36:44
Yep.

+1
2014-01-13 00:12:27
Aiming is everything. If you aim clearly and dont spray like in 1.6 then everything is fine. Just go on dm and try to control your aim with 3 taps.
2013-04-25 04:41:34
Yeah...he really needs to stop spraying that AWP and shoot accurately! Everything's solved now...
2013-04-25 06:17:35
don't feed the troll :D
2013-04-25 10:43:32
nokia 3310 armor ;)
2013-04-25 08:27:22
lol'ed xD
2013-04-25 09:10:48
may be the oppenent was lagging

Post edited 2013-04-25 09:12:23
2013-04-25 09:09:43
AWP is good in CS:GO. Try to change the style of shooting! Watch some demos of awp masters.
2013-04-25 09:17:08
So because this happened a few times on a random server now everyone will wonder why they mising awp shots with 9000 velocity
2013-04-25 09:20:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtLmF3uTcjI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeZMFTASx4U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i267QWLn-Y&hd=..

Happens to me pretty often. Its really frustating, its like you have to stop moving and wait 2 full seconds to be accurate otherwise it goes right through. (c) azk

Its been broken since beta and just never been fixed. It probably happens to me every other match at some point when it is clearly on them. You cant have that in a competitive match it just fucks you up so much more than an AK/M4 ---- miss = dead. (c) rattlesnk

^ I guess those guys are just some random too noobs who have no Idea how this game works and so on.

AFAIK awp isn't completely accurate after you have stopped (=velocity 0), but instead you have to wait for some time after that to shoot with 100% accuracy. That is obviously fucking retarded and has to be a bug. I have heard that crouching before you shoot "fixes" this.

tl;dr It is broken
2013-04-25 09:33:46
+++++++++++
2013-04-25 10:33:53
/thread
2013-04-25 10:49:53
+1
2014-01-13 01:00:12
http://www.cadred.org/Forums/Thread/192515/

DFS GuardiaN?
2013-04-25 09:38:53
it was quoted in this thread already ahaha
2013-04-25 10:41:53
woah sorry VILLI but youre wrong here. It has been fixed like 2 months ago. a lower tickrate handles guns differently just like it was in Source. Go ahead and spray on 60 tick server with m4 and on a 101 tickrate and youll get the difference. If u miss at 128 tickrate youre shot youre just missing it.
2013-04-25 09:45:12
hmmm I wouldn't be so sure it has been :S
2013-04-25 10:50:49
Well they updated the servercode back then and i'm sure they gonna optimalize the 66 tick servercode aswell.
2013-04-25 12:52:17
says the guy with the gamesense of a poached cauliflower
2013-04-25 11:19:00
Only bad people use the AWP anyways :]] Real men use rifles
2013-04-25 10:21:33
+1

AWP is OP already as it is.
2013-04-25 15:51:05
riiiiiiiiiiight
2013-04-25 20:28:29
It happens with all guns.
2014-01-13 01:01:12
+1 Rifles 4 president
2014-01-18 12:18:20
u probably moved
2013-04-25 11:16:58
You can see the velocity there, he didn't move at all
2013-04-25 12:07:05
64 tick problem solved
2013-04-25 12:09:54
? so has this something to do with 64 tickrate servers?
2013-04-25 12:33:33
Is that the reason?
2013-04-25 12:45:21
no, happens on 128 tick
2013-04-25 12:48:25
Yeah that's what I thought
2013-04-25 14:14:36
This has been happening in 1.6 too a lot after the updates
2013-04-25 12:06:45
awp is too strong...
2013-04-25 12:12:42
guardian your such a lame ass faggot lol...
and all those ppl who put their dicks in hes ass... damn get a life..
awp sucks oke close thread
2013-04-25 13:07:06
I don't like AWPing because every game at some point I know I've hit someone and yet the bullet doesn't register.. Its broken, and has been since the beginning. It doesn't mean you can't awp well but its just irritating and should be fixed. Its quite obvious when I've had people watch me play and say the same thing, even my teammates that the bullet just disappears. It seems to happen more often when you scope quickly and then try and and flick and kill someone... when you are static and not moving it never happens. It must be something to do with the timing of shooting and moving.. but the point is when your scope has zoomed in, it has stopped swaying, and you shoot you expect the bullet to go straight.. it doesnt. So you need to adjust your game to fit a broken gun.. bit horrid but you get used to it i guess.
2013-04-25 13:16:48
get this guy to the valve headquaters again :D
2013-04-25 17:48:49
Why settle for less, when you can push for more?

Why would we need to get adjusted or used to a broken gun, when cs:go devs can potentially fix it.

I agree with the fact you can still awp well, but for example lets say you are holding mid on mirage and someone runs through, you shoot on them and it doesn't reg.

So from somehow not getting the first pick and getting your team into an advantage, you now have to reposition yourself in order to actually do something.

I've seen your stream a couple of times and I saw you 'hit' about 20 shots with awp that didn't reg at all.

Hope valve try to fix it

Post edited 2013-04-25 18:01:12
2013-04-25 18:00:36
typicaL ekskuse for a cack awper, lvl up little jimlowbobo ud get squashed 1 v 1
2013-04-25 19:30:12
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/52585-RattlesnK_A..

Valve prolly fucked it up after you said they should add some delay to it. :P

Btw, it actually happens even being static (esea server with 128 tick and correct rates): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43f-hg9iM_k



Post edited 2013-04-26 00:08:14
2013-04-26 00:05:37
Couldn't agree more , awp is messed up, i always try to not play with awp because of this problem , its annoying ,in 1.6 you needed to be good to hit fast awp shoots,in cs:go seems u gotta be slow ?
just my opinion ,seems like guardian likes it , but still there is a real problem with that aw´p
2013-05-26 23:53:03
BTW. you all can hate me, flame and blame me whatever, but all i said here are my own opinions and if u cant accept it, then its not my problem.

Post edited 2013-04-25 14:14:45
2013-04-25 14:12:16
gurdian big sausage man)
2013-04-25 14:39:05
saucer went full sauce
2013-04-25 19:51:45
No one cares about you, really. You didn't achieve anything. Why bother?
2013-04-26 14:45:05
u do, coz u replied, cya.
2013-04-26 15:44:59
I am not everyone now, am I? ... ;)
bye, son.
2013-04-26 15:57:57
If you are not ''everyone'', then how can you talk for everyone?
2014-04-20 04:01:27
pass some groupstages before being arrogant ok?bai
2013-05-27 03:21:51
the real question is where the fuck is dockeur aiming
2013-04-25 14:16:21
This have happpend to me a couple of times, but not often, but it's enough to piss me of, f. ex. if a CT is defusing and you shoot RIGHT in his body, and it doesn't hit (what happend to me once), it's enough to get you pissed off, really
2013-04-25 14:27:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43f-hg9iM_k

This game is just awful.

That's on ESEA 128 tic servers with 50 ping 0 choke.

Post edited 2013-04-25 14:37:26
2013-04-25 14:31:45
Yeah this is exactly the thing that happens to me. These retards are just trying to explain that it's a quickscope-related problem.
2013-04-25 23:56:24
rattlesnk > guardian

so i will say rattlesnk is right and the awp is rly broken .

guardian him self was complaining about the awp and said its like call of duty awp .

dont know why did he change his mind ??
got $$$ from valve ??


Post edited 2013-04-25 14:42:58
2013-04-25 14:42:39
Yes, 4000/month - anyway nice chatting with you guys, peace and love <3

Post edited 2013-04-25 14:52:06
2013-04-25 14:47:58
i will say that u know that awp is broken but since u are the best awper right now cz u used to this broken awp , u fear they fix the awp and u wont be 1st anymore .



Post edited 2013-04-25 15:01:44
2013-04-25 14:58:45
You are completely right, thats it !
2013-04-25 14:59:30
atleast even you got some satisfaction from retarded arguments too
2013-04-25 15:32:51
naidraug gnieb naidraug
2013-04-25 18:00:14
you win, you just posted the most retarded comment possible.
2013-04-25 18:06:00
shadap u cunt my dad earns 8000k a month u joke look at u nerding0
2013-04-25 19:28:22
+1
2013-04-25 23:54:10
This happens so freaking often that it's ridiculous :s even when hardscoping. That's why I consider the awp pretty much useless at least on T-side.
2013-04-25 15:22:34
lag ; bad rates are problem in this game.
force everyone to use this rates and values
rate 128000;
cl_interp_ratio 1;
cl_interp 0;
cl_forcepreload 1; (this one will extreemly help to get good hitboxes when you or your enemy have; make demos; analyze and you will see the difference)
ofcourse these rates will increse server load; which valve won't do
another issue is if you have lag u can get advantage. watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5QyNA6H6rY&lis..
he is not cheater; he just use lagswitch(google it if you don't know) method
2013-04-25 15:24:46
this is cs go not source .
2013-04-25 15:28:57
LOLYOU cheats you fucking retard, he uses silent aim lmao
2013-04-25 15:33:31
crap server + people dont have proper rates
2013-04-25 15:32:04
Nothing wrong with the AWP imo, although I have experienced this also. I think it's more server/connection side, not the game itself.
2013-04-25 15:36:42
AWP bad? what the fuck. GO's awp is the easiest weapon to master. Last month i did 1500~ kill for 200~ death. If you are bad it is not because of the game. Stop crying about go its a really good game. Way better than source and 1.6.
2013-04-25 16:28:54
lmao
2013-04-25 18:01:56
ye ok m8 u got the aim of a week old curdled fromage frais so shut the fuck up and go be a shit french n3rd somewhere else ya hear meh
2013-04-25 20:19:30
you seem rly retarded. nothing else to say to ur low iqed mind :]
2013-04-25 20:35:09
LMAO :D
2013-05-14 05:35:51
>Stop crying about go its a really good game. Way better than source and 1.6.

Wow, what is wrong with you? Do you have some kind of mental disability? Or were you just never able to master 1.6/CSS so you rejoice at the dumbed down CSGO?
2014-01-13 01:10:23
can valve fixing the fucking p2000 and deagle plz dudes
2013-04-25 16:33:26
now the deagle really is a problem... does anyone actually use it anymore? it used to be such a joy :/
2013-04-25 16:35:00
deagle is a cheap shotgun..
2013-04-25 16:44:48
P2000 is completely fine lol
2013-04-25 21:18:28
Nope. CT pistol should be stronger than T pistol (like it was in 1.6 and css) cuz in the most of the situations you have like 1-2 cts against 5 ts (ramp rush for example) and you can't stand a chance against 5 clocks clocks (if you don't have shit loads of luck) with 1-2 shitty P2000 (and if you buy another pistol then you can't afford nades and kits that much and you need at least 2 kits per team on pistol round).

These things make pistol rounds so much ts-favoured and it's most likely to see ts winning the pistol rounds nowadays.
2013-04-25 23:51:17
I thinks its a nice change that T's are OP in pistol rounds because most maps are favorable for the CT's anyway. It sort of balances that out. Also its not like its impossible to win CT pistols, your argument about 1-2cts vs. 5 glocks is a bit dumb if you think of it.
2013-04-26 07:45:59
You didn't get it. I meant that when enemy rushes to ramp and you have only 1-2 ct's there like you usually have, you will most likely lose it to enemies.
2013-04-26 14:39:48
That is beside the point, because its boring to watch very basic T 5 man strats because they know that unless the ct defending gets extremely lucky its an easy pistol round won. It's very boring from a spectator point of view and frustrating from a players point of view.

CTs NEED a better starting gun than Ts because they need kits, and more importantly they need to usually spread out to defend two sites. T's having the stronger gun makes the round very basic because they just need to stick together 5 v 2 or 3 scenarios when you have the better guns is a basic math win.

The glock needs a nerf or the p2000 needs a buff. Personally i think a little buff and a little nerf would be perfect.

Post edited 2013-04-27 21:57:36
2013-04-27 21:52:57
I dont play CSGO at all so I can't say but looking at the pistol round statistics (almost every map is dominated by Ts) I agree with you. I like the idea that glock is a little bit more powerful than p2000 but the difference shouldn't be as big as it is now.
2013-04-28 13:01:59
i shot someone in the head mid range amd twice in the body, 47 dmg - kevlar+helm or not that is just bad
2013-04-26 11:30:43
p2000 is fine as it stands, it could maybe use a buff longrange but other than that I dont see the issue
2013-04-26 14:15:58
the problem is , ct's have to buy smokes/def kits and flashes to delay

where as the t's can confidently invest into kevlar and just run around with the glock and pew pew
2013-04-26 14:20:42
you are always complaining about something.. JUST QUIT THE FUCKING game or shut the fuck up. everything is fine, the only thing is that GLOCK IS LITTLE BIT STRONG, thats all and probably p2000 could be stronger on long range.

Post edited 2013-04-26 15:53:36
2013-04-26 15:53:02
+1

gogo! everyone quit this shit game
2013-04-26 16:56:06
THE GAME IS OK STFU OR QUIT. But the glock is strong and p2000 could be stronger, otherwise THE GAME IS OK!!! STFU OR QUIT



retard
2013-04-26 18:36:35
you are always complaining about something.. JUST QUIT THE FUCKING game or shut the fuck up. everything is fine, the only thing is that:

- awp bugged
- movement crap
- netcode shit
- smokes too big
- deagle crap
- glock too strong
- p2000 could be stronger
- more chickens
- health pots and skins for chicken couriers
- summonger spells
- runes
2013-04-26 18:44:14
dont like it? QUIT THJE FUCKING GAME... i am complaining? SHOW ME ONE FUCKING THING you fucking newbie idiot from Slovakia. "- more chickens" THAT SHOWS HOW RETARDED YOU ARE

Post edited 2013-04-27 00:59:07
2013-04-27 00:56:23
seeing as multiple pro gamers seem to have an issue with it aswell, I don't think you could say that "everything is fine". And as people already pointed out, you actually complained about the awp a few months back.
2013-04-27 02:25:15
"a few months back." .
2013-04-27 02:31:40
yes but the awp has not been changed since.
2013-04-27 02:32:59
I can admit this one, but on the other hand you have to admit that there could be a way how to decrease those "misshots"... Practicing is not enough to "gather" knowledge about CS:GO..

Post edited 2013-04-27 02:36:20
2013-04-27 02:35:36
shut up retard
2013-05-14 08:35:52
:-*
2013-05-14 08:56:13
;)
2013-05-14 10:59:29
p2000 is good if you just take your time to shoot and aim for the head
2013-04-26 16:06:00
you can spray with glock at long range,p2000 should have a little bit more firerate but other than that i agree that is a good weapon
the thing is that glock is way to easy to kill while p2000 takes some skill and its a bit harder
2013-05-27 03:24:53
it's not broken, the awp bullet mechanic is not 100% deadly accurate.

the awp is made so that you can't headshot enemy pretty often because the bullet is not in the middle dot of the screen but still pretty accurate.

in 1.6 you can pretty much hit a jumping guy, you flick and click and accidentally pin-pointed your middle crosshair onto his ass. it killed him because the bullet is going straight and therefore huge damage.

but then in CSGO bullet is going randomly around your middle crosshair, it's like O-shape recoil and you need to shoot somewhere in his stomach because even if the bullet goes off it still hit some part of his body.

it's like 1.6's quickscoping, it's quite accurate but not 100% in the center of the screen.
2013-04-25 16:41:31
LOL. And that in your opinion is not broken? Awp with a recoil & spread?
2013-04-25 18:14:45
uh no. what "broken" is, to me, is unintended result of programming algorithm that doesn't go the way programmer want it to or in human language, is a bug.

I think this mechanic is purposely coded.
2013-04-25 18:44:11
well purposely or not, it is broken if it behaves like that..
2013-04-25 20:13:32
hahaha +1
2013-04-25 23:39:04
Dafuq? 1.6 Quickscoping was 100% in the middle of the screen...
2013-04-25 23:38:37
did you play 1.6 :\
2013-04-26 06:41:40
did you play 1.6 if you asked this question ?
2013-04-26 16:18:38
lol been playing it like forever.
2013-04-26 16:35:22
then check who you replied to
2013-04-27 02:26:34
uh? just because you hit everytime you quickscoping doesn't mean it's 100% straight.
I don't know if you know it but do a zoom then click and hold mouse1 button on the wall. it's just not going straight.
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1953/awprecoil...
sorry bout awp reloading model

EDIT: uh oh what's it has to do with whom I am replying? :\

Post edited 2013-04-27 03:20:24
2013-04-27 03:20:01
I am not saying you are wrong. Anyway you asked ChrisJ if he played 1.6, when he was the best player from the NL, and that is the reason spikerzor questioned you.
2013-04-27 13:37:54
Ooh I know that.. my sarcasm detector broke. mbad
2013-04-27 15:37:24
the decals showing it not going straight while it does, try to kill someone in a spot then kill the second guy with noscope in same spot. I made it million times already
2013-04-27 18:34:33
Valve please, please re-introduce quickscoping
2013-04-25 20:21:02
awp is balanced in go. Not so overpowered as in css and yet not so hard as in 1.6
2013-04-25 21:16:21
go's awp are HARDER.
enemy's moving faster. you can't rely on quickscope. zooming/unzooming are fucked up on 70+ latency(delayed, sometimes not even zooming). blurry scope. not to mention random recoil and enemy could even blend with the background due to FOGS and terrible coloring.
2013-04-27 03:40:16
Wow, Guardian is a one arrogant prick.
2013-04-25 23:08:54
Yeah he indeed is.
2013-04-25 23:38:11
i am, deal with it

Post edited 2013-04-26 00:11:46
2013-04-26 00:08:58
stop replying to everyone that directly/indirectly insults you.



2013-04-26 01:00:51
ill do whatever i want

Post edited 2013-04-26 01:02:14
2013-04-26 01:02:02
by: :'(
#382
u wanna do gina?
2013-04-28 13:33:47
You have issues.
2013-04-26 01:16:18
yup
2013-04-26 00:59:51
indeed,for someone who passed 1 groupstage in 1 year he is a lot
2013-05-27 03:26:35
Cause the game sucks
2013-04-26 00:11:43
by: BATISTUTA9 - HLTV.org
#240
BIGNARSTIES comments to the "pros" in this thread must be vacuum sealed and left for history books. Thanks for the late night laugh :D

By the way, who would not be slighly arrogant if you were better than 99.9999% ;) ?
2013-04-26 00:57:29
hes the best :)))
2013-04-26 01:03:08
I laughed for his/her comments too xD
2013-04-26 01:11:45
get_right and f0rest's kryptonite in 1.6 was the awp. ESC/Neo, Navi/Markeloff, and fnatic/friis used to stop those two all the time. The awp sucks now so it automatically makes NiP stronger and pretty much unbeatable. Their worst player is fifflaren who is an awper. Americans depend on awps the most and look how crappy they are at CS:GO.

Clearly, the awp needs to be fixed.
2013-04-26 02:34:00
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

THIS YOU FUCKIN IDIOTS.

AWP IS NOT FINE. Netcode in CSGO is even worse than CSS.

Seriously I see this pro player from 3dmax talking like he knows. Okay you can hit awp shots. Great. Doesn't mean it's not broken. This happens in 10man servers and DMs. It happens in 64 tick and 128 tick. It even happens on FUCKING LAN ffs. There should be NO reason an AWP shot aimed at the DIRECT CENTER of the chest at 0 velocity should miss. Makes absolutely no sense.

Post edited 2013-04-26 04:06:30
2013-04-26 04:03:28
this one.
2013-04-26 06:08:24
whos suggesting it happens on lan? nearly everytime ive seen this bug has been on DM with the odd ESEA exception
2013-04-26 12:54:22
friiis kennyS markeloff trace rattlesnk and many more
2013-04-26 14:36:16
I have a lot of respect for these guys as in players as well in person.

But they can complain what they want but they didn't put time in actually understanding the AWP, I guess all they did was just playing a lot and came to the conclusion it isn't like it was as in 1.6 .
2013-04-26 14:55:16
wish i could agree but the truth is theres something fundamentally wrong with the awp
2013-04-26 14:59:02
I've actually explained what's fundamentally wrong, but i guess it's more a personal preference. But the bug with the velocity is totally away it only occurs on shit servers like Deathmatches , ESEA Pugs and other shitty warservers. Never had it myself on a decent server i just actually missed my shots, easy as that.
2013-04-26 15:02:21
guess markeloff rattlesnk friis trace only play on shit warservers


there is no point in arguing since potato will be spelt the same way no matter how you pronounce it
2013-04-26 15:06:48
Well you clearly don't get the point of me explaining the AWP in my previous/next posts
2013-04-26 15:11:42
meh ive not heard anyone complaining anyway, it still needs to be looked at at the very least
2013-04-26 15:49:55
As said it got fixed somewhere in March. Those video's posted the latest is from February so go get a more recent video.

Only issues are on fucked servers like DM's and other shit servers.
Tested it yesterday with bots on my own server (128) tick and only shooting with a velocity of zero. Hitted every shot, only missed if i would shoot to fast after each bullet, or trying to flick quickly towards an other enemy which is completely realistic(500ms).

I agree that the Netcode in CS-GO is still a bit buggy especially when you compare the difference between servers with different tick rate's, makes the guns behave differently.

Haven't really had the time to completely work this all out but i will do in the future in a blog on here or something.

AWP is completely fine if you play on a decent server with no weird tickrate drops. Its just more 'random' if their are quick interactions with it. I gotta say its a bit of personal preference but I like it because the realism of it. I rather see Valve decrease the damage (10/15% depends on which gun) of the normal guns. Would still give the more realistic feeling of the AWP but still makes the AWP very usefull in certain situations just like it was in 1.6

Post edited 2013-04-26 14:36:28
2013-04-26 14:32:02
Also I don't get the criticism on Guardian he has proven to be one of the most successful AWPers in the Counter Strike franchise, and certainly does know more about the AWP then the 99% criticizing him.

He's completely right in this situation and then their are retards who don't know zero about the AWP or the game in general criticizing him, so I kinda get the fact why hes then acting like a dick towards you.
2013-04-26 14:51:17
because as clearly seen and backed up by facts, hes wrong and comes across like an arrogant mongoloid
2013-04-26 15:00:10
If u mean the facts? the most last recent video of this issue is the one you posted, I'm 100% just as Guardian said it got fixed in the update in March.

I'll accept proof (video) if u have the same issue today/tomorrow but i wanna know on which server it was and what tickrate it was running. And it would be useful to know if the server is running on Linux or Windows.

I do agree that Guardian was a bit TO rude towards you and others, but still the guy knows exactly to control the AWP and that's because of a reason ;)

But like I said see my previous posts/suggestions and you might get the idea what I mean.

Post edited 2013-04-26 15:10:18
2013-04-26 15:06:31
But hes for sure the best AWPer in GO atm. So people should actually listen carefully to him so that they learn to know how the AWP works in CS:GO nowadays. And i'm pretty sure Guardian was the one back then to point out the problem towards the community and Valve.

But I get the point of you guys thinking it's bugged but it just behaves differently. For eSports term I think it should be differently aswell but I kinda like it this way.

Post edited 2013-04-26 15:25:51
2013-04-26 15:20:33
tell me all of the Lans guardian has been successful at recently
2013-04-26 15:24:08
Your point is totally invalid it's still a team game just like soccer is. Messi is for sure the best player in Soccer but still Barca lost 4-0 to Bayern didn't they?

I'm pretty sure Friis admitted that Guardian was good with the AWP somewhere above and he isn't?

But rather of discussing this all, I rather see some one with decent proof made this week were it happened towards them. But on these conditions; I want it to be a decent server with no huge Tickrate drops, I don't want the player to have net issues. Don't come with a demo made on a shitty ESEA server or a DM server. Want to see live velocity recording ingame and net_graph enabled. Pretty sure no one of you'll come with decent proof like those old video's

Do not say proof from months ago is still valid because it isn't, game has been updated twice since then.

Post edited 2013-04-26 15:35:01
2013-04-26 15:28:01
Oh yeah i don't want the shots to be quick flickshots as explained before its just the way it behaves in GO (realistic).

@mod, sorry for replying towards myself but it seem's i can't edit my posts after a while.

Post edited 2013-04-26 15:45:29
2013-04-26 15:43:46
Ok here we go. Since I got home I can actually be bothered to type a reply.

GuardiaN hasn't been playing well, be it because his team didn't perform or whatever.

Calling him the best awper in the atm is unheard of because I personally believe fox, kennyS, Niko , RattlesnK and some others are better or have actually placed top3/4 at recent LAN events that proves they are capable of dominating a game with the awp.

However GuardiaN only proved himself recently in an online cup where they beat a mixteam of aL and WW. How does that make him the best awper in CS:GO I have no idea.

As mentioned above, a lot of 'pro' players who I consider better players than guardian have a problem with the consistency of the awp and they believe there is something wrong with it.

I am pretty sure that whatever server , bet it 128tick or 64, the awp bug was, is and will be there until it has been truly fixed.

Your argument saying, it doesnt happen on a warserver is irrelevant because if it happens on 128 tick servers on ESEA and competative servers it affects almost everyone who actually plays the game.


2013-04-26 19:33:20
Well as first it was a time quiet around GuardiaN but seriously the guy has a rating of 1.24 in total which makes him statistically a top 3 player alongside of GeT_RiGhT and f0rest. As far as i know 80% of the recorded statistics on HLTV are from LAN events. With his rating of 1.24 with 538 frags with the awp of the 1200 and it being his best gun makes him obviously the most consistent AWPer atm.

GuardiaN dominated every team he played against with the AWP. Just the fact that 3DMAX went down because their results were poor was just the fact as PhP said in statement that only he and GuardiaN putted in the time that was needed to become successful. Since then it was just quiet around him and you obviously didnt see him playing since the recent Radeon Offensive were he was dominating with the AWP against a team of WW's caliber doesn't make me doubt to know that hes atm the best AWPer in GO. And if you doubt about the fact it was online? I'm 100% sure he's as good on LAN as he's Online.

About the AWP issue, Well Guardian obviously did his homework so did I after reading your 'fundamental bug'. And I know theirs no bug as I explained. It's just different as people were used to it.

Well we can discuss all what we want but the matter of fact for officials and praccs their aren't really any issues, only with quick flickshots as explained you just have to wait for a bit before fireing, makes the AWP harder to handle then it was in Source or 1.6 but your positioning becomes more important and good movement and every considered top AWPer will be fine, they just didn't searched deep enough.

I agree on the fact that it effects on people who are playing Pug's or on a DM but they should consider to buy a 128 tick server which actually runs stable instead of the fucking shitservers ESEA have. But theirs no issue when playing officials, LAN, Praccs as long as you did your homework.

Last thing im gonna say about this in total, will get it worked out next week in video and so on, so im not gonna waste my time to explaining stuff when people don't understand/get a single thing i say because they have no knowledge about the game.



2013-04-26 22:18:10
GuardiaN hasn't been playing well, be it because his team didn't perform or whatever. - your knowledge is fucking AWESOME - btw from international CS:GO scene i have already 2nd and 3rd place, but you know everything obviously :DDDDDDDDDDDD

Post edited 2013-04-27 01:09:45
2013-04-27 01:00:17
2nd place? IEM Katowice? Very international indeed
2013-04-27 01:38:49
dont be jealous noob1 :-* You are just one of the 24020420 randoms out here, so wont reply you anymore, coz you are a SLOVAK
2013-04-27 01:42:18
you dont get it , i am proud of ehat you achieved. I am proud you put slovakia onto the map of both css and csgo. what i am not particularly proud of is your behaviour.
2013-04-27 01:53:28
And please, unlesd you plan to study abroad then don't refer to me as a slovak in a demeaning manner. I am not part of the retarded playzone community and I never was

Post edited 2013-04-27 01:55:42
2013-04-27 01:55:01
you made me to behave as I did in this thread. You cant accept the fact, that everything is okay and you are just complaining about EVERYTHING, completely everything. If you dont like it as it is atm, then dont play it. I can enjoy the game in its actual state and im quite sure that 90% of top players are enjoying it as well. Probably not as cs16, but they have no other choice.

Post edited 2013-04-27 01:58:11
2013-04-27 01:57:10
The thing is, I love cs and I am enjoying it. But I find some things really strange, and don't get me wrong, they can be EASILY improved.

If something can be done to perfection, then why not push for perfection?

Look at dota2 and how hard the devs are working to make it the best game possible?

From anyone's point of view, it looks asif the csgo devs don't give two fucks.

It's sad, sorry if I made you behave like I did. I sometimes dothat to people :), it's just the way I am

ps: ive got 180 hours in the past 2 weeks, I am not one of those - fps is dead bring back 1.6 people.

Post edited 2013-04-27 02:13:17
2013-04-27 02:11:25
as I said, theres nothing wrong with certain things.. if theres something "wrong" it might be the overpowered glock, nothing more.
2013-04-27 02:14:53
Look, I am not going to go into details, but there is NO perfect game and there never will be. It's human nature to push for something better and better, even if you already have it.
2013-04-27 02:16:57
noone said that its a PERFECT game, did someone?
2013-04-27 02:18:31
Then don't act surprised when people whine and ask for improvements and changes.

Oh and btw, thanks for not playing the last couple of CSS Slovakia EMS seasons, easiest wins of my life
2013-04-27 02:21:43
you really have some complex about people complaining about something they THINK and its PROVEN thats wrong dont you?you would make a nice dictator,gj
2013-05-27 03:28:58
+1 Swaghetti is a little whiny cunt.
2014-01-12 22:47:57
And his rating is 1.24 or something @ hltv which made him a top 3 player, his best weapon?? AWP
2013-04-26 15:53:30
Uhh budy, the video I uploaded (the one on nuke) happened in April, less than a week ago. On ESEA. With 50 ping. And the correct rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43f-hg9iM_k

You were saying it's fixed?
2013-04-27 13:41:07
ON ESEA just fucking learn2read
2013-04-27 19:14:19
Amen.

+1
2014-01-13 01:16:03
completely useless videos. 3 or 4 of them are at least 3 months old and one is from ESEA pug.. so nice try, but nothing real

Post edited 2013-04-26 15:55:59
2013-04-26 15:49:13
Why is the one I posted useless because it's in a pug?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43f-hg9iM_k

You do realize ESEA servers are literally the best servers we can play on in NA, because all the publics and mm servers are awful? You seem to not know what's actually going on.
2013-04-27 13:42:49
One has to wait until the cross hair is no longer blur for long range. It takes a fraction of second for the blur to disappear which means quickzoom shots no longer work for long to mid distance. I feel this is the reason why i miss lot of those shots which could have been easy kill in cs 1.6
-P.S After playing csgo for few hours and then switching to cs1.6, the aim feels so great.
2013-04-26 15:21:44
NetCode In Cs;go = SHIT
2013-04-26 15:46:51
I came to a realisation after reading this,

GUARDIAN IS A PRICK AND HIS OPINION IS IRRELEVANT

;D
2013-04-26 16:07:30
Your opinion is irrelevant because you clearly don't know anything about the game in general or the AWP.

Post edited 2013-04-26 16:13:37
2013-04-26 16:13:25
Oh im sorry, i didnt realise Guardian's boyfriend was here.

Your opinion of my opinion (which i never gave) is irrelevant because you clearly don't know anything about life in general or me.

Go back to your bridge, troll.

Post edited 2013-04-26 16:28:16
2013-04-26 16:24:41
Kinda love your self knowledge.

Luckily theirs no bridge from Ireland to the mainland, would be a total disaster.
2013-04-26 16:29:46
I don't even know what you're talking about any more man.

Self Knowledge? What???

Oh and it's *there's

If you struggle with English, don't bother replying to me. I will destroy you.

GG Cya

Post edited 2013-04-26 16:36:45
2013-04-26 16:32:19
+1
2013-04-27 07:17:22
Yet another Guardian asslicker! HELLO

Post edited 2013-04-27 13:47:42
2013-04-27 13:46:32
+45
2014-01-12 22:12:27
duck before you shoot
2013-04-26 16:16:06
all the guns are fucked in this game in terms of recreating that CS feel and gameplay that made this game so good once upon a time...its not just the awp.
2013-04-26 20:32:30
I don't get why they removed fast-zooming. Stop with this stupid "it's a new game blabla" shit and ask yourself 1 question: Did it (the removal of fast-zooming) make the game better?

My answer is clear: No! Not all all! It made the game worse. The possibility of doing fast-zoomed kills gave the game some great quality. The required skill made a difference between amateurs and good players, it was A LOT of fun (guess everyone agrees with that) and not to forget: it made the game more spectacular. Just compare the AWP fragmovies between CS 1.6 and CS:GO. The one from CS 1.6 are much more impressive (not saying that there are no impressive AWP clips from CS:GO).

In CS:GO you always have to wait some milliseconds after zooming in, otherwise your shot becomes random (of course I'm speaking about the situation of standing still, moving will always make your shots random and that's good). That's why most people already zoom in before they peek.

I can't see a reason why someone would be against having the possibility of fast-zooming.

2013-04-26 20:55:21
Yep removing quickscooping just reduces the skill cap. It's sad that they don't want to reward good aim.
2013-04-26 22:19:34
That's true, all the changes to the awp in CS:GO make the gun boring and lame to use. I wanna run around and quick scope noobs dang it.

Post edited 2013-04-27 03:51:39
2013-04-27 03:51:12
Its just because of the amount of people crying at one stage about how the awp was OP (mostly on pub servers) around the first few years of source. The quick zoom change was part of making cs:go game easier for noobs.
2013-04-27 13:52:44
I agree, that's the worst thing about the AWP in GO.
IMO this puts a huge skill cap on the use of it.

Post edited 2013-04-27 18:33:43
2013-04-27 18:24:35
Half you retards act like Valve had netcode fixes in the past 3 months. Hint: it wasn't touched.
2013-04-27 02:01:41
Hey 3DMAX-GuardiaN, what refresh rate you play with?
2013-04-27 02:54:06
Nvm, I see you're on that benq. Maybe that's why the reg sucks for the rest of us. If you need 128 fps for cl_cmdrate 128, then you probably need 120hz?

Post edited 2013-04-27 02:56:59
2013-04-27 02:56:33
fps and hz have nothing to do with bullet registry pr awp's inaccurate.

Post edited 2013-04-27 15:16:45
2013-04-27 15:16:39
Think about it. cl_updaterate/cl_cmdrate controls how many packets we're receiving/sending to the server. This is connected to your fps because you need to generate 128 frames each second for the 128 packets per second. IF you're playing on 60 hz, does this mean you're only sending/receiving 60 true packets?

Or am I overthinking this shit.
2013-04-27 17:45:44
can any admin delete this topic? VILLIG you are so idiot.
2013-04-27 07:18:44
This is not cadred aka North-Korea.
2013-04-27 11:25:12
wake the fuck up, I actually proved my point
2013-04-27 11:58:39
"you are so idiot"

Says it all really.

Post edited 2013-04-27 13:49:50
2013-04-27 13:48:28
hahaha csgo fanboy is mad!
2013-04-27 15:15:10
hahaha why cs 1.6 fanboy you mad? =))
2013-04-27 17:52:22
wa hahahahaha
2013-04-27 14:28:34
Woah HLTV is more retarted as i thought. Fucking nonamers talking about fixing a bug which actually isn't a bug but just the way the gun should behave.

Please dig deeper fools, and get in touch with the physics of the game and after doing that you can speak...

Post edited 2013-04-27 19:21:55
2013-04-27 19:21:34
its always easier to say that it is someone's other fault :>
2013-04-28 13:48:29
>the way the gun should behave

Jesus christ you are a moron. I would be shocked if you ever made it out of the lowest levels of competitive play because you clearly have no ability to determine what nuances are appropriate for competitive play vs which ones dumb down a game to casual level.

CSGO is by far the worst version of CS. It has dumbed down CS so drastically that it's now on par (if not worse) than other casual games such as COD, etc..
2014-01-13 01:43:30
And right now its breaking CS records, yeah sure. For you as person it might be the worst version ever because you either come from Source or 1.6, ofcourse then you're gonna prefer these games, just like I prefer Source. But this is a topic for the AWP and it behaves perfect, you just need to be point accurate,
2014-01-13 10:20:58
It's not breaking records because it's a good game: http://s29.postimg.org/b1x1jle87/graph.jpg

I'm a 1.6 player and CSGO is worse than 1.6, CZ, CSS, and CSP.

It's absolutely riddled with a plethora of problems:

http://www.hltv.org/forum/500657-opinions-of-csgo-..

Reg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6u26YTpIF0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3og3PTuKQco&hd.. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.p.. http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1..

Movement - http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=135&userid=11457&a..

It's not only the AWP that doesn't reg, it's all guns. I never even considered playing anything but counter-strike for the past 10 years. But because of how horrible CSGO is I'd even rather play COD or battlefield, or any other game which I previously considered to be for casuals only. If someone would have told me they were going to stop competitive cs play for one of those games I would have mocked them. The fact that I'm preferring those games over a CS game is massively telling of just how awful GO is.
2014-01-13 11:08:43
sv_cheats 1, sv_showimpact 1 go against harmless bots and you can easily see the awp is accurate (with noscoping, zoomshot or however you call it) just the hitboxes are waaaay better then in 1.6 and it makes harder to kill someone like that :) in 1.6 you just had to shot near the enemy and you killed him :) actually go is a more skillful game then 1.6 or css was in my opinion :P
2013-04-28 13:46:26
Sorry to say but your opinion is false.
2013-04-28 18:17:19
yes, you are the one who knows everything.. kill urself please
2013-04-28 18:20:45
Normally I'd say you're a great AWPer but seriously, you're on the goddamn internet. I don't give half a monkey's shit how well you AWP or click things on a screen.

Learn to respect people or fuck off.
2013-05-28 00:53:18
You are not even good though.:(
2014-01-12 22:45:52
Playing vs bots in your own zero lag server = accurate awp...Yes nobody is disagreeing !!!

Online with 128 tickrate = inaccurate awp, that's the problem.
2013-04-28 18:37:23
i dont know, if im in online (on our server atleast) and i turn on these things its the same :D i have no problems like that, you just have to learn it :)
2013-04-28 18:50:16
I'll stick to the ak/colt, headshots are ez pz. The awp is bizarre.
2013-04-28 18:55:45
we just have to learn it, thats all :D like we did when we started playing cs back then :D
2013-04-28 18:59:46
So much shit in one post :D

Just please to one quick scope the bullets are not accurate till you wait 0.4 to 0.7 seconds till it gets completly accurate

Like in the delpan thread explained
http://www.hltv.org/forum/380962-delpan-this-is-fo..

Post edited 2013-05-14 05:32:19
2013-05-14 05:27:56
ur just talking garbage if what u r saying is true then every 1 in 1.6 wud just use awp cus its 1hit kill n u "just need to shoot near enemy" gtfo its cs:go with all the interp exploits etc not 1.6 mate pull ur head out ur ass
2013-05-27 04:18:31
dunno about awp not registering

the fact is awp is so weak in this game, don't even understand why anybody uses it

In strength of AWP: CSS >>> 1.6 > GO
Overall fun using it: 1.6 >> CSS >>>>>>>>> GO

cant even fastzoom nothing, retarded blur and shit like that makes this weapon even more retarded
2013-05-14 09:31:30
From what ive read by now and its pretty much 80% i must agree with GuardiaN in 90% of what he said...Awp in cs go its FINE the problem with some online misses its the opponents ping or your ping or maybe rates..so AWP IS FINE i cant say that i dont miss im a awper myself but thats my fault(not standing still, too fast scoping,after 1 shot dont wait for scope to clear out) for the moment glock nerf a little and p2000 increase accuracy at long range and maybe a litttle buff thats it.

Post edited 2013-05-14 13:05:19
2013-05-14 13:02:53
p2000 is completely fine.
2013-05-28 00:51:10
The awp is alright for me. The only problem I had is the $50 kill reward. That's far too little to be honest.
2013-05-27 01:54:24
I WANT TO SHOOT THROUGH 10METER WALLS< DAT GAME IS BROKEN< FIX IT

funny to see lots of retards who cant deal with the fact that awp shhoting differs from 1.6

P.S. Guardian, stop arguing, those retards wont get it
2013-05-27 10:18:21
+1 to much no skilled awpers moaning
2013-05-27 11:44:49
-1

Go play a different game if you don't like CS. There are plenty of other realism FPS games to choose from.
2014-01-13 01:46:20
i like CS, thats why i appreciate changes
2014-01-13 02:16:14
That makes zero sense.
2014-01-13 03:12:09
rejecting changes is zero sence, like you r in middle ages
2014-01-13 11:25:14
I love changes. I've suggested changes for both CSP and CSGO that have never been done in any game, much less any CS game. The problem is that a large amount of changes in CSGO are ones which are detrimental to competitive play and/or enjoyability.

It's unfortunate that low level players like yourself feel the need to mouth off in favor of CSGO even though it's blatantly obvious that you are unable to distinguish good changes from negative ones.
2014-01-13 11:32:31
its obvious that 1pixel6 diehards cant get that things that are different from their tetris isnt "bad", they are just a bit DIFFERENT. thats the point
2014-01-13 11:40:31
LOL :D
Never happened with me. I am a AWPer and the only problem I face is when I Zoom and Shoot fast, the bullet wont go where I want it to go. Otherwise there was a problem of Moving and Shooting for which I found a solution, Crouch.
BTW
Windows sensitivity : 6/11
In-game sensitivity : 1.9
zoom_sensitivity_ration : 1.2
Windows mouse acceleration : OFF

Post edited 2013-05-27 11:12:18
2013-05-27 11:10:49
Your sensitivity has nothing to do with this.
2014-01-15 13:59:19
IE User Spoted!
2014-01-16 06:44:53
I knew there's something strange in CS:GO AWP
2013-05-27 11:22:10
This thread demonstrates the complete opposite of 'professional' gamer. Although I'm not sure we could call GuardiaN a professional gamer anyway, but I digress..

Post edited 2013-05-27 11:45:32
2013-05-27 11:45:05
Nah dude apparently I look the complete idiot from this according to guardian
2014-01-12 22:08:57
This looks to be recorded in a deathmatch server. The deathmatch servers are usually overcrowded and if you have your netgraph on you will see that there is almost always choke and even some loss on a lot of deathmtach server. This can cause the awp to seem inaccurate.

Post edited 2013-05-27 15:29:28
2013-05-27 15:29:14
It tends to happen that a completely 'ON HIT' shot doesn't hit - actually too often to be left unnoticed.
Even if Mr. "That never happens with awp" says it doesn't, it surely does. I'll happily have someone look through my demo against LDLC from tonight - as it happened once in that game - not because of quickscoping, moving, crouching or eating a banana while shooting.

If it has ever happened with me playing on a lan server, I'm not aware - but online, it sure as hell has happened a few times (too many)

2013-05-28 00:28:12
Dude someone just bumped this thread, thanks for the reply and agreeing with me back then. I still get flamed by his dumb fanboys :D
2014-01-12 22:07:43
Make a youtube clip
2014-01-12 22:40:51
Try zoom_sensitivity_ratio 1.2....That was the default in 1.6
2014-01-12 19:52:47
by: mlu
#428
awp is okey
2014-01-12 19:58:24
Currently it isn't, today did:

Unscoped jumpshot - http://www.twitch.tv/byrestycone/c/3536971

Unscoped kill from outside through main - http://www.twitch.tv/byrestycone/c/3535335

Unscoped kill through smoke - http://www.twitch.tv/byrestycone/c/3537064

AWP is love, the only problem is the blurry scope and 64tick :(
2014-01-12 21:32:35
the question is incorrect, must be: why YOU so bad with the awp?
2014-01-12 21:46:49
Bot plis
2014-01-14 15:04:25
dumbass turd motherfucker
2014-01-14 15:50:36
Y u says stuff of many hurts dumbess I kill u in second
2014-01-14 15:54:13
u suck in second
2014-01-14 16:18:55
Ofkors but if I suck second is mean u suck first so after u suck I ran away stupit noob hahah owner gayboy suckysuck
2014-01-14 16:20:43
The question must be: volvo pls y u no give 128 tick pls.
2014-01-12 21:59:55
i think its not about fps, its about server ticrate tho...in mm servers there are 64tick :/, so i think thats the problemolemo
2014-01-12 22:00:06
You don't know anything about it then lol. 64 tick would be allright if just the hitreg would be okay. It's not because of 64 tick ONLY.
2014-01-15 14:57:31
I think it's all about the broken Source (esp. GO) netcode...
This shit happens very often, and there is no way to fix it.
There always will be some tards with extremely low cmdrate and rate and a high ping which make them "unhitable", so... Thank Valve for such a beautiful game.
2014-01-12 22:28:08
SWAGHETTI_YOLONESE: please stop continuously embarassing our nation. thanks
2014-01-12 22:37:50
I feel for your country, having such a retarded person.
2014-01-12 22:44:07
Actually he was pretty much right on everything. And he isn't retarded at all. If you can't get his point, it doesn't make him retarded.
2014-01-12 23:18:48
+1
2014-01-13 01:47:25
Don't bother , you are replying to two retardos
2014-01-14 15:05:02
Why do you even bother talking to me when clearly your iq is bellow the line that enables you to comprehend this thread and my opinion.

All the people in this thread that weren't retarded guardian fanboys and some exceptions actually agreed with me
2014-01-12 23:52:18
Why is your every response an insult to one's IQ? I'm not talking just about this thread, but all of your stupid troll responses.

When somebody disagrees with you, you just attack him with insults. Real mature. Grow up, will you? Accept other people's opinions.
2014-01-13 11:37:00
Maybe because when someone tries to argue with me they tend to leave a braincell or two behind
2014-01-13 13:58:24
he doesn't represent slovakia, as everyone here don't represent their countries.
2014-01-13 01:08:59
Anybody got evidence on a 128tick server?
2014-01-12 22:39:20
Just because you are shit with the AWP doesn't mate it bad kid.
2014-01-12 22:44:22
that argument is so dumb.
2014-01-13 01:17:23
CONCLUSION: Some people knors how to do it and some people dont.
2014-01-12 23:49:06
L2P.
AWP is fine - you are just bad.
2014-01-13 00:34:37
No offense to anyone but it is so.
2014-01-13 01:17:32
This was fun
2014-01-13 01:05:18
ping
2014-01-13 06:47:17
AWP from 1.6/CSS >>>
2014-01-13 06:56:10
game is broken
2014-01-13 08:31:00
Ak-47 accuracy is even worse. Please make movie shooting from AK-47. You can shoot one bullet and a long delay accurately.
2014-01-13 10:30:01
Jesus, another thread with guy bashing CSGO. The game is fine for me, and for a lot of people. If you don't like it/suck at it then give it a break and stop playing it for fuck sake.

To use AWP properly you need to have a certain amount of skill. If you don't have it, then I'm sorry to say that but you will never be good with it.

Post edited 2014-01-13 11:57:24
2014-01-13 11:54:13
The awp is fine, the problem is clearly that hunk of shit server you're playing on, you would face the same issue with all weapons.

Post edited 2014-01-13 13:07:31
2014-01-13 13:07:06
plus fucking one
2014-01-13 13:33:24
you clearly didnt see the thread date and the esea server videos
2014-01-13 13:59:06
no matter how long you went back, there was no update to the awp, except more blur in the scope. and esea servers are perfectly fine lol
2014-01-14 16:20:51
Hah, still the bug existed back then and many players agreed on that almost all the pros at the time, except one retarded one
2014-01-14 16:23:06
and i guess youre refering to guardian?

in which case, i see. youre obviously more experienced than him
2014-01-14 19:03:54
this was never a question of experience or skill
2014-01-14 19:21:22
but its a simple question of being bad at something, and blaming bugs instead of getting better
2014-01-14 19:49:19
clearly didnt read the whole thread, not even going to bother
2014-01-14 20:18:14
you clearly just bothered
2014-01-15 11:41:48
one line responses = bothered
2014-01-15 12:31:14
you did it again
2014-01-15 12:44:53
:) clearly
2014-01-15 12:50:29
and again
2014-01-15 13:28:08
I am not sure if you got some kind of autism but judging by the logic you are trying to portray, it is more than likely you are a bit more special
2014-01-15 13:39:16
Your words makes too much sense for these dumb fucks to understand. I almost got cancer from this thread. I just don't get it how somebody can say the game is okay. Almost every aspect of the game is fucking horrible.

Post edited 2014-01-15 14:04:27
2014-01-15 14:03:11
Well, it started with one retard called GuardiaN and then 200 fanboys followed
2014-01-15 14:08:15
you did it two times more
2014-01-15 14:10:54
maybe ill type a sentence 20x more, still won't cure your autism
2014-01-15 14:15:53
nice excuse for bother alot

sry sry for insultes
2014-01-15 14:31:20
The problem most likely is 64 tick servers ._.
2014-01-14 15:58:44
exactly, you cant hit anyone while hes moving, even if you aim perfectly, so for awp, where you have 1 shot, it happens so often when someone moves fast and you hit him in belly, he just keeps moving and you die

and sometimes servers are so bad that you cant even see player that kills you, so you just die and then he appears

Post edited 2014-01-15 15:10:01
2014-01-15 15:08:16
just me who allways gets killed by awp and they never miss a shot?
[on MM so 64tick]
if you don`t hit, then you are hitting from the side (maybe hitbox is somwhere else)
and yes I see your movie it is fucked up :D

Post edited 2014-01-14 16:23:32
2014-01-14 16:20:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zU7cCi0_tM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvzUJJ_gzc

AWP all the way is no longer viable in this game, there is no day I play in which I do not have random shots that miss even if I should get the kill...
2014-01-15 14:13:35
I was wondering why is DEAGLE so bad in CS:GO o.O

they nerfed it so hard,pff.
2014-01-15 14:24:54
OH. MY. GOD. Well that was depressing. *Think* I managed to work out what was actually being discussed in between all the arguments and ego battles.

Is there such a thing as 'better', or only different?

A difficult question. It's unfair to compare the GO awp to the 1.6 awp unless...

Does one's enjoyment of something depend on the thing itself, or one's ability to enjoy it?

Also difficult.

Personally, I probably have more fun using the 1.6 awp. I know how to get it to do what I want it to do, and that can be very satisfying.

I don't yet fully understand the properties of the GO awp, and therefore it's sometimes frustrating that it doesn't do what I think it should do.

That's kind of exciting, actually. Reading this has made me want to learn the GO awp. To get to a point where if I missed a shot, but felt like I'd done everything possible to maximise my chances of hitting, I'd sit back and think 'fair enough'. If that's how the gun works, then that's how it works. If it isn't 100% accurate then that's fine.

My only concern is bullet registration, and I only play MM so what the hell do I know. If I felt confident that this wasn't a problem, I'd be happy to learn the GO awp and accept its flaws as a weapon and specialised tool within the context of the game.
2014-01-15 16:32:30
I love topics like this, bring it on guys!
2014-01-15 16:47:15
+ quickscope and awp-wallbanging and it would be sickkkkkkKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk
2014-04-20 04:25:16
Why do we revive old threads ?
2014-04-20 04:57:07
wasnt me
2014-04-20 05:42:01
played csgo for few hours...and in my opinion ...the awp is the best gun..... the drag is awesome....but really i cant get accustomed to this game..(specially with handling the m4a4 or ak47 burst or the rifles tapping ) :((
2014-04-20 05:50:35
why are you so bad
2014-04-20 09:59:14
It happens with all the weapons not only AWP
2014-04-20 10:54:36
We can't even see the clip in nomal speed, you probably moved when you shot, then ofc you don't hit what you are aiming at...
2014-04-21 23:53:55
this shit is fixed long time ago, so stop crying u little bitch, doesnt seem like pasha, guardian, kenny's and so on and so on are whining about the awp?:P so pls, the video is like 3 months old, if u cant hit ur enemy stop using awp :D
2014-04-22 00:23:28

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