SOURCE 2 screens leaked.
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/107712-left-4-..

WOW that difference :O http://u.cubeupload.com/callumshell1/comparison.jp..

Also Counter-strike 2 tag : http://i.imgur.com/F5zM4Vr.png
(200 replies)
Created 2014-01-28 00:15 by: reacTy
HL3 confirmed <3
2014-01-28 00:18:39
another screen : http://abload.de/img/image70qc4.jpg
2014-01-28 00:29:36
by: t1m0
#76
museum ?
2014-01-28 12:56:47
map from l2d2 if i am not mistaken
2014-01-28 14:48:39
its from l4d2
2014-01-28 14:51:31
typo :)
2014-01-29 01:10:32
liv 2 deaded 2
2014-01-31 13:45:09
hm..dunno how "real" the 2nd picture is. But i think the first one with the house is pretty real.
2014-01-28 00:20:38
neat!
2014-01-28 00:24:22
by: Dok1
#4
cs2 could also be a codename for CSGO so I wouldn't hype it up too much. It also wouldn't make sense to release CS2 in the forseeable future ;)
2014-01-28 00:24:46
So then... maybe CSGO will be ported to Source 2 ?
2014-01-28 00:25:27
dunno how much sense it would make.

F.e: will source2 need way better hardware? Then it certainly won't make sense to port a multiplayer game people already have bad performance in to an engine, they'd have even worse performance.
2014-01-28 00:27:36
well, Source 2 probably has a better netcode.

Post edited 2014-01-28 00:34:37
2014-01-28 00:33:56
....so? It's not like the GO netcode is hardcore bad. So people playing with 30 FPS will have better netcode. Huuraaaay. Not.
2014-01-28 00:36:35
Well GO maps don't have so much details so maybe it will be ok.
2014-01-28 00:44:56
The netcode is complete shit. Even Source's netcode is better than GO's.
2014-01-28 09:47:40
you realize that csgo and source are on the same engine and therefor use the same netcode right? lmfao *facepalm*
2014-01-28 11:17:49
Are you kidding me? - I'm well aware of CSGO using Source engine, but it uses a modified version of the Source engine. Modified. Which means they've messed around with it to satisfy their needs, so for your information they very much have messed around with the netcode too. Get your shit together and move on.
2014-01-28 14:37:22
nope, try using google.com
2014-01-28 15:22:07
Have you even tried?
2014-01-28 15:25:13
ACTUALLY ITS ON THE PORTAL 2 ENGINE WHICH IS A "MODIFIED SOURCE ENGINE" YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG
2014-01-28 19:31:49
Funny joke about Source having good netcode.

In before I'm saying Go netocde is good, its not.
2014-01-28 12:54:08
You actually just proved my point exactly. I didn't state Source had a good netcode? I said it had a better one than GO.

Post edited 2014-01-28 14:40:14
2014-01-28 14:39:22
They're equally shit.
2014-01-28 18:16:48
Doesn't matter if it has a better netcode if no one can actually play the game due to high performance demands
2014-01-28 00:38:24
css was ported to an orange box source engine ver., if they can ensure an easy transition from source to s2 i dont see why not
2014-01-28 01:53:21
by: Schypher - HLTV.org
#30
There's a big gap between a different branch within the same engine and a whole new engine.
2014-01-28 02:56:15
The post itself says it's only an "updated l4d2 engine". Moreover, it doesn't make sense for them to make a brand new engine instead of updating the one they've been working on for over a decade.
2014-01-28 08:26:13
by: Schypher - HLTV.org
#175
The post itself says it's only an "updated l4d2 engine"
Unless I'm missing something, only the news piece says that, not the leaker.

For all we know "Rebuilt in Source 2.0" means they just recreated that part of the level as a concept of what the engine can do, it doesn't necessarily mean they are porting the whole game to Source 2.0.
2014-01-29 05:19:14
it's not a whole new engine. I'm 100% sure that source 2 is based on the first version, it's only a matter of how hard the transition between source 1 and 2 is.

Post edited 2014-01-29 01:31:26
2014-01-29 01:30:43
Most likely, yes.
2014-01-28 14:58:34
by: Schypher - HLTV.org
#29
1: They have no reason to codename a 3 year old game another thing, besides they said several times that CS:GO wasn't CS2.

2: Considering it always takes a couple of years to release a game after it has been announced, CS2 could still be 3/4/5 years away. CS:GO is probably their learning ground for future games and can be easily turned into F2P when CS2 arrives(if it doesn't happen before that).

3: Valve always release the same franchises in a new engine. So you can expect HL3, DoD 2, L4D3 (which has been confirmed) and other sequels to appear.
2014-01-28 02:53:48
Dota 3 ;DDDD No but probably a new portal and with a small chance in the future (5+ years) a new CS.
2014-01-28 09:53:58
by: Schypher - HLTV.org
#173
Dota 3D :D
2014-01-29 04:44:12
They never confirmed L4D3. They only confirmed source 2.
2014-01-28 12:21:45
by: Schypher - HLTV.org
#172
Yes, but not only we've seen several mentions to it for the past year, but we also have reports of people saying they saw early L4D3 concept screens on Source2 when they visited valve.
2014-01-29 04:43:29
cs2 code has been found on a number of occasions, if you have a new game engine why not test your current titles on it, so seeing cs2 makes sense :) i'm hoping it is cs2..that will be released say in 3-5 years time

it could be cs online the new source version nexon released in asia, i highly doubt it being cs go since valve devs where adamant in saying this is not cs2 when talking about cs go.

Post edited 2014-01-28 17:38:10
2014-01-28 17:32:20
must be photoshopped since there's a hl3 folder
2014-01-28 00:26:33
trees better in old version :D
I think everyone would love to see CS2
maybe in 2020 or something
2014-01-28 00:29:18
everyone would love to see CS2?
even higher system requirements?

if GO wouldn't be called GO, but CS2, there wouldn't be that hate toward it?
why you think Valve would do a better CS with CS2 than CSGO?

(yea, rip inglando i know)
2014-01-28 01:39:42
GO seems more like "test-version" of CS2.
I mean, they can do some things, people will test it and say how and why. Then move main code into S2 and voilà! "Same" CS with better graphix, net-code and so on.
2014-01-28 03:13:55
Not gonna happen. They will probably port CSGO to Source 2 like they did with CSS to the OB engine though. (CS2 is probably CSGO.)
2014-01-28 07:29:38
they already said x times that CSGO has nothing to do with CS2
2014-01-28 11:24:09
Indeed.
CS:GO was developed by HP, party company of Volvo, but not Volvo themselves. They were supervisors during development.
So, there is some point to consider :GO wasn't "main" version of CS(read CS2).
2014-01-28 16:41:28
You also know that within 5 years the things we have in our "goodlike" computers will be shit right ?
2014-01-28 09:55:31
Valve is very good at making game engines that have low system requirements yet good performance, look at the source engine we're playing on right now. My toaster could run a game on it and have decent looking graphics.
2014-01-28 15:00:33
if just...
2014-01-28 00:30:37
someone said the presentation containing those pictures is from 2011.
2014-01-28 00:40:52
Volvo giff hl3 and cs2 pl0x
2014-01-28 01:02:47
cant Wait for CS2, CS:GO is shiet
2014-01-28 01:24:20
as csgo devs said.. if there will ever be a new cs version, they are going to be the ones working on it...
2014-01-28 01:45:50
nope, now it is the perfect time to launch a CS Promod addon for GO, since so many people are unhappy with the game and valve does not give a shit as long as players keep buying cases. Only now would make perfect sense to launch promod but seems like it wont happen anytime soon.
2014-01-28 01:49:28
man fuck Promod.
2014-01-28 01:50:31
Won't ever happen. You seem to know alot about the community and how VALVe works. Always funny when people step-in like they have a clue.

And about "so many people are unhappy with the game." wow. It's kids like this that destroys the game AND the community. It's apparently hard to learn a new game.

Why do you want a promod when CS has worked fine without it for over 10 years? Jesus...
2014-01-28 07:46:55
+1

Im happy with CSGO and im pretty sure im not alone with that tought.

SOME slight updates on movement for example wont hurt but yeah, not really needed tbh, everyone is playing on the same conditions.
2014-01-28 12:08:03
Nope, just buy p90 in MM for about 5 rounds and everyone in sv will start complaining about the game and that it is too easy when shooting and running. The game has serious competitive flaws like underpowered flashes and nades, broken awp and deagle, bad sound, and you cant spray down entire rushes which seriously caps someones skill, not to mention a lot of other stuff.
Also when I mentioned a new pro mod it would have nothing to do with the existing one that was a total failure, but a new one with a new dev team.
Only possible way I could see it work would be with a server and client addon like AMX, easy to download that would change certain things such as movement damage and recoil values, any other way would remove the skins from the game which is the main feature that kept CSGO alive.
Most of the people that are happy with GO either never played 1.6 or CSS competitively for more than a few years, or are CSS players unhappy with the last updates that ruined the game and switched to GO.
2014-01-28 13:35:11
If you can't spray down rushes than there is something seriously wrong with you, or you're just crap at the game.
2014-01-28 17:52:33
cs go devs said they're going to be working on the new cs? we're fucked.
2014-01-31 22:04:38
aww yiss, cs2, then in 2k15 cs:modern warfare/2/3/4, 2k16 cs:black ops/bo2, 2k17 cs:ghosts, 2k18 cs:chicken apocalypse

Hope that sauce2 engine will do the job for hl3, but if they port csgo to sauce2 engine...
2014-01-28 01:37:46
You shouldnt say anything about source2 engine being shit for CSGO, it actually might be good.
You really shouldnt talk about stuff before you have tried it.
2014-01-28 09:58:30
Idiot.
2014-01-28 10:07:48
Yeah idiot
2014-01-28 17:51:56
never go full retard
2014-01-28 19:47:28
As long as the new engine refuses to work on windows 8, gets a linux port, and does not get released on consoles, is fine by me.
2014-01-28 01:46:41
I hope they don't make CS2 for consoles or we're gonna get the same shitty mechanics which are originally meant for console noobs (aka full friction & acceleration based movement).
2014-01-28 01:56:09
I hope so :)
2014-01-28 17:52:21
Colour? Never thought I would see saturated colours again after the disaster that is CS:GO post-processing effects!
2014-01-28 02:47:17
dudes, they can't make HL3 until they don't finish the HL2 saga... Kid from today won't understand who Eli, Alex and the G-man are and what they should do on the Borealis.
2014-01-28 03:18:53
They even said themselves that they are gonna make HL3 and not make a continuation on HL2 since the story used in HL3 are gonna differentiate alot. So if they were to put that story into HL2 it would make zero sense.

Post edited 2014-01-28 03:30:11
2014-01-28 03:29:41
But for a big Half-Life fan like me HL3 would make no sense
2014-01-28 04:23:53
Would you buy it anyway?
2014-01-28 05:14:02
yes
2014-01-28 05:15:25
So there you go. People will buy it regardless, dev's don't have to care at all :)
2014-01-28 05:18:34
they probably do.
2014-01-28 11:28:11
by: fRls
#45
why no sense? jump from hl1 to hl2 was perfect.
2014-01-28 08:44:42
by: Meh!
#69
Difference is that HL1 had an "end". You survived and you were put into stasis for further use in the future.

HL2 episode 2 ended with your mission not complete and everything went to shit.

There is a big difference
2014-01-28 12:15:36
by: fRls
#79
true, but I believe ep2 end was a big intro into next series, and I don't believe it's fair to put it in episodes again. the borealis, gman identity, combine advisors, future of earth, that deserves their own game.
2014-01-28 13:53:20
I agree with you completely on those points. But it seems weird to start HL3 from where HL2 ended. It's like the chapter never ended, so basically HL3 have to be a sort of episode 3 in a sense. I hope you get what I'm trying to say :)

And if HL3 would start somewhere else, let's say with a different character (maybe Adrian Shephard from Opposing Force?) they would have to tie it up neatly so the two stories connect at the ending point of HL2 episode 2.
2014-01-29 00:15:31
I get it yeah, tying all knots seems like a good end, but there is borealis you know :) putting it in one ep would be a waste, they'll need ep4 for that.
2014-01-29 13:54:04
by: Schypher - HLTV.org
#174
Oh boy, because there's no way you can tell a videogame story without playing the game...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf_MtR3F-S8
2014-01-29 04:50:34
yeah good idea... make a 50 min recap of HL2 + ep1 +ep2
2014-02-02 20:05:56
by: Schypher - HLTV.org
#204
5 minutes would be enough to be honest.
2014-02-02 21:58:18
Looking forward to see if they actually are gonna create a CS2.
2014-01-28 03:31:39
Haha, people see a screenshot with folder named "CS2" and suddenly they're discussing its netcode, fps and shit, release date, promod for CS:GO, ... :D
Just HLTV...
2014-01-28 05:13:10
yeah but valve has actually said before something along the lines of 'cs:go is not CS2', and I'm sure it's not the last version of counter-strike we'll see...

but yeah, i wouldn't be surprised if the screenshot with the folders was fake
2014-01-28 06:06:23
Of course it is not the last CS game. I just really think it is premature to discuss the end of CS:GO based on one screenshot :))
2014-01-28 06:19:28
http://www.valvetime.net/threads/updated-half-life..

Source 2, L4D3, HL3 and Counter-Strike 2 info was leaked in June 2013. I doubt CS2 is really in the making, wouldn't make much sense to release a new game so soon after spending so many resources on CSGO.
2014-01-28 08:50:04
There is a new COD game every year and CSGO is more than 2 years old now. Another year to develop, announce and launch the game, it'll be well past 3 years since CSGO launch which is a reasonable timeframe IMO.

Being said that, I don't think Valve is done milking CSGO yet, so i'm not too hopeful for CS2 in the next half decade, at least.
2014-01-28 09:30:26
Valve and Activision have an absolutely different approach.
Also, they're putting too much effort into it. The game changed a damn lot during these 1.5 years.
2014-01-28 11:06:47
You don't remember counterstrike 1.6 september 2003 and not even a year later counter strike source came out.

There are different dev teams in valve for sure so they could do the same or give the job to their big friends http://www.hiddenpath.com/games/

Tsup with people saying valve and activision have a different approach ? it's untrue.



Post edited 2014-01-28 14:26:05
2014-01-28 14:25:04
1.6 wasn't a new game... merely the last major update of a 1999 game. You can't compare the situations. They're trying to turn the game into a milking cow, just like they did with TF2 and Dota. Do you also think they're going to release Dota 3 in the next two years? What's the point of spending so many resources on helping the game grow and then make a direct competitor? It's like spending a lot of money to open a store and then opening a new one just 10 meters away.

Anyway, if you still think it's a good strategy, then think over the fact that there's no CSGO folder there. There's literally every game Valve made in the last 6 years (except for Portal, which hasn't been updated for ages), yet there's no CSGO. Doesn't make any sense to port L4D2 to Source 2 and at the same time leave CSGO at an older version of their engine.
2014-01-28 14:56:49
Companies don't port older games to a new engine because it will not sell that much since it's not brand new that's why you don't have cs 1.6 or css on a new engine with the same graphics ;p

I am gonna résumé myself because i can talk 10 pages to give you ideas that valve isn't putting enough budget into the game meaning by this it's a small team that works onto csgo.
It has been like that since they bought the cs franchise.
Cs go could have been like this now after 6 months of work with enough people, meaning budget.

Like some guy said above source engine 2 will have new games new graphics.
2014-01-28 18:03:00
Come on, even Dota 2, Valve's biggest game of the last 9 years, takes ages to develop. It takes them about 2 months to release a new hero, even though all they have to do is create a low-poly model and some animations. It also took them 2 years to get the game out of closed beta stage. And don't forget how they couldn't start Diretide 2013 in time... To think of it, Valve is the exact opposite of work efficiency. We all know the "Valve time" meme.

Yes, the amount of people working on CSGO is very small. However it doesn't change the fact that releasing a new game when its predcessor still generates a lot of money, is being worked on and hasn't yet reached its full potential is simply counter-productive. Just like there's no TF3 and Dota 3, there's not going to be a new CS game in the foreseeable future.

P.S.: Regarding the porting of their games, they actually have L4D2 in their Source 2 directory, as can be seen in the first post: http://i.imgur.com/F5zM4Vr.png. They also DO port their games to newer versions of their engine, for example, CSS was ported to Orange Box engine branch.

Post edited 2014-01-28 19:15:46
2014-01-28 19:09:39
I am not gonna add anything more to what you have said just that i wouldn't stick to those pictures until valve themselves make a trailer or whatever about their new games.

Post edited 2014-01-28 19:36:05
2014-01-28 19:35:52
In my opinion you require more skill in CS:GO than in some lame COD game where all you do is spray. In the Counter-Strike series you really need skill, crosshair placement and aim(tapping, bursting etc.). There are also the tactics withing the team that make the game more interesting like crazy flashes or smokes across the whole map. With all that said let's get on to the point. It's easier to adapt to a new COD released than a new Counter Strike game. It took a lot of time someone to beat NiP in this game, so why should that repeat? To make the scene more boring? I don't see the logic why Valve should release a new game ...
2014-01-29 00:55:04
sweet (*___*)/
2014-01-28 09:20:39
Oh please lord let this be a progression off 1.6 and not sauce/GO.
2014-01-28 09:27:09
Im not even impressed by these graphics lol. This should be superdupernextgen not Farcry 3...
2014-01-28 09:42:00
Think about this, not everyone will have a computer that could run those totally fucking insane graphics . So what they do is something in between so everyone can play the games = more player = more money = win for everyone. Even the one that actually play the game (cs2?) comp.
2014-01-28 10:02:40
but Half-Life was always superdupernextgen
2014-01-28 10:57:34
still, they want money and that comes from selling the game to ppl that can play it.
2014-01-28 11:35:35
Will never click image link on hltv... Too risky...

Post edited 2014-01-28 11:10:00
2014-01-28 11:09:52
I love watching nice graphics. Do you have more pics ?
2014-01-28 11:19:07
cs2 not is a china cs?
2014-01-28 11:43:13
you mean Counter Strike Online 2 but it's bullshit
2014-01-28 12:02:49
counter strike online 2 is based on the source engine

and cs online 1 is base on goldsource engine from half life 1
2014-01-28 14:27:02
why would they release a source 2 and cs 2 when they barely update go and its beginning to pick up pace.
2014-01-28 12:16:54
we're talking about a gaming engine, not a game
2014-01-28 12:29:15
Source 2? Who the f needs it, goldsrc all the waym At least I can move properly.
2014-01-28 12:27:54
Apparently everybody else wants Source 2.
2014-01-28 12:56:56
Looks good I guess, but still not a jaw breaker. It's definitely an improvement though.

Valve's plan for CSGO was just to fill the gap and unite both 1.6 and CSS communities, so that we can have one big game. Now, when the plan succeed they could easily release CS2 which, in my eyes, is going to be the real CS and I hope it's gonna to last for years.

Post edited 2014-01-28 12:50:37
2014-01-28 12:50:10
If this is true csgo will be deaded which will make lots of people happy including me < 3
2014-01-28 14:00:41
is this the real life? is it just fantasy? http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/0..
2014-01-28 14:41:57
Yet Promod giving no signs of life.
2014-01-28 15:24:21
maybe because it has been stomped to death by Alex Garfield and Valve? Yes.
2014-01-28 17:26:53
you were one of the diehards who said csgo dead soon, promod to come out soon, promod to overtake csgo.

so how much of your foreseeing was right?

if your all so beloved promod game would be as good as you little kid praise than it would for sure overtake csgo, but in reality nobody expect you and your 5 diehard friends ever gave a fuck about it :D

2014-01-28 18:12:03
If you would have any kind of clue about true competitive FPS-gaming, you would realize that CSP is about 99999x times better than GO.
2014-01-28 18:17:18
I'm sorry, but the words competitive and CSP can't go in the same sentence. The game has no players whatsoever, how can it be competitive? Get real. Just because Garfield and his shit squad kept saying the game was gonna be the dream for competitive, with decent physics, recoild and whatnot, doesn't mean it was. All the "betas" sucked, all the recoils sucked, all the servers sucked, and Garfield himself is so full of shit I can't even describe.
2014-01-30 18:22:46
I'm talking about the game itself.
2014-01-31 13:35:33
Was still shit.
2014-01-31 15:26:43
you sound really butthurt for some reason.
2014-01-28 18:24:13
it is better than csgo.
but why play csp? why play 1.6 anymore? theres no reason to do so, only if you wanna be casual.
2014-01-28 21:42:58
they don't really look that impressive at all. i suppose that is mainly because valve wants their games to run well on older hw. tbh i don't care about the graphics, i care about the gameplay

Post edited 2014-01-28 15:25:43
2014-01-28 15:24:35
there will probably a csgo:2, and the whole scene will get devided again. Pro's go to csgo:2 eventually and everyone moves over. Csgo dies, in 2024 we get source3, hl4, csgo3, etc etc etc
2014-01-28 15:27:22
cs:s 2 comin!
2014-01-28 16:44:44
csgo is css2
2014-01-28 16:57:49
this
2014-01-28 17:17:56
csgo and css are like cat and mice they dont look nothing alike..of course 1.6 players will say otherwise.
2014-01-28 20:25:21
both games run on the same engine, the graphics look pretty alike.

"they look nothing alike" lawl.

http://puu.sh/6BHVZ.jpg oh naw they totally dont look alike, right?
2014-01-28 21:45:23
im talking about shooting, granades, jumping, awping, movement gameplay based..when you play css then cs go and vise versa you play 2 different games that only graphic is common thing...i have 2300h i css i know what im talking about.

Post edited 2014-01-28 22:29:47
2014-01-28 22:29:23
but you were saying "they LOOK nothing alike"? so how was i supposed to know that?

grenades physics are identical (guess why fiff and friberg had to teach xizt, gtr and f0rest grenade physics), jumping? what do you mean by jumping? they did a good thing and removed flash boosting and the fucked bhopping.

awping is pretty much the same, just with a blurry scope. quickscope is alot harder though.

from what i have seen/experienced myself from css to csgo, the movement feels pretty similar. ofcourse its not identical but i honestly dont think its such a huge deal :)
2014-01-29 00:09:09
laaaaaaawwl lawwwl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIP8azmhZ8I
2014-01-31 13:37:15
god you are stupid...move along.
2014-01-31 15:23:26
"both games run on the same engine, the graphics look pretty alike."

w0w you're so clever.
2014-01-28 22:52:13
yeah? hes saying they looked nothing alike.
so i told him that they in fact do and they run on the same engine and look identical (pretty much, except that csgo is greyer lol)

big difference man. i see, i see.

Post edited 2014-01-29 00:14:06
2014-01-29 00:11:11
?
2014-01-31 14:39:32
moron
2014-01-31 14:59:53
...?

What do you expect me to say to that video link. What even was the point of it. Then to call me a moron? Fuck you.
2014-01-31 16:26:16
the map is a source rip-off
2014-01-31 21:46:17
People love inferno. What were they supposed to do, create a new map and call it de_inferno? Would you be happy then?

Post edited 2014-01-31 21:50:25
2014-01-31 21:50:07
you fucking moron really, do you even use your brain?
how can some people be so fucking simple-minded..

Post edited 2014-01-31 21:54:11
2014-01-31 21:53:41
neat!
Hi I'm new and I need 5 post before I can make any threads #5
let go make my thread
2014-01-28 17:09:04
Welcome to the HLTV.org but try to make clever posts, not just post random shit to get 5 posts :P
2014-01-28 17:11:26
Why the hell would they release CS2? Most of the community wouldnt like it anyway, just because it won't be the cs1.6. I don't see the the point.
2014-01-28 17:43:07
Honestly, it dont look too good tbh. They could learn a lot from CryTek.
2014-01-28 17:45:11
Awwww check out HLTV so naive! Is everyone forgetting that no matter how good the gfx will be valve will add fog everywhere in the map so essentially it will be a better quality fog or HQ rubbish around the map.
2014-01-28 17:58:17
Look at this:
http://www.stuff.tv/steam-box/valve-steam-machine-..
Valve is trying to unite PC- and console-gamers.

So I can already guess what CS2 is going to look like, haha.
2014-01-28 18:14:23
old news
2014-01-29 01:14:07
when will you guys learn, games are successful for gameplay not gfx why do you think 1.6 survived for as long as it did even after a new version of cs got released with better gfx(source)

people still ramble on about how good 1.6 is and there's a reason for that.
2014-01-28 18:40:17
hopefully if there is a counterstrike 2 someday it turns out better than the abomination that is CS:GO.
2014-01-28 18:45:29
..... - No one forces you to play the game, go back and play 1.6 if you are so unpleased :D
2014-01-28 19:42:19
by: Ayman - HLTV.org
#127
Even though I do play csgo I almost puke when somebody post a comment like this.

Yes we ARE forced to play the game when all others are dead.

Post edited 2014-01-28 20:36:34
2014-01-28 20:36:25
No one forces you to play this game, then go out and do some productive instead of playing the game ..

Whatever you say, you have never been forced to play PC Games.
2014-01-28 20:37:32
by: Ayman - HLTV.org
#130
So you're talking in that sense? If so then your comments are clueless just like this one, awful attempt at defending the game which has alot of flaws.

Post edited 2014-01-28 20:40:28
2014-01-28 20:40:08
Lol CSS and 1.6 are not dead. Why don't you forget about CSGO ever existing? Ooh wait you can't because this game is smashing 1.6 to bits now!
2014-01-28 20:58:34
by: Ayman - HLTV.org
#136
I don't care about 1.6 or CSS I play csgo. But when somebody says we are not forced to play csgo it's some bollocks since we clearly are.
2014-01-28 21:13:14
How are people forced? If they don't want to play it don't buy it. I mean are 1.6 and source still working? Can you go in-game and play? How are they forced tell me please I want to know!
2014-01-28 21:24:25
by: Ayman - HLTV.org
#138
Should be obvious. Competitively.

1.6 and CS:S has no pro scene since CS:GO is taking it all.
2014-01-28 21:39:12
Does Steam let you download the games yes. Does it let you play them? Hell yes! I usually play in clan wars 5vs5 in CSS you can do this as well. It's not dead if no one gives money for it.
2014-01-28 22:18:27
yes but playing with noobs against noobs in 1.6 or css isnt fun
2014-02-02 20:10:08
You are forced to switch to CSGO if you want to play a competetively. There are no tournaments in 1.6 or CSS, theres no money in the game, the games wont get updated much anymore, and its almost impossible to find a decent match since no one is looking. You probably end up in a fucking server from Lithuania with a ping of 90 because nobody fucking hosts servers anymore.

Both CSS and 1.6 are dead - the only thing you can do is either play FFA or spend 2 hours looking for a match. I personally tried playing 1.6 some time ago - it took me 1½ hour to find a match.

So yes, you are forced if you wanna play regularly, if you wanna become good and if you wanna compete in a competetively active FPS game.

Ofcourse this game is smashing 1.6 to bits when 1.6 has no scene. Are you fucking stupid? :D

Post edited 2014-01-28 21:55:44
2014-01-28 21:48:21
^ this man speaks the truth, in Australia CS1.6 all we have are 2 public servers and 1 pug server that barely gets played. Yep no one forces me to play CSGO but the lack of players within 1.6, lack of competition, lack of servers are influencing my decisions otherwise

Post edited 2014-01-29 06:32:26
2014-01-29 06:32:00
Also

What other games are similar to my beloved CS 1.6? One that's an FPS that provides a competitive scene with ranks and streams, ones that's tactical, one that's full of player customizable maps and skins, and one that requires teamwork?

I don't have a high demanding PC so I can't play Battlefield 3/4 and the Next-Gen COD games.

I live in Australia so latency/ping is really an issue when playing free online FPS such as Sudden Attack, Combat Arms and A.V.A, can't really frag well when your ping is like 300 - 400.

Can't really games like Quake or Unreal Tournament, its just a casual game with no competitive scene anymore, most servers are modded.

The only game I know that is extremely similar to CS 1.6 and CSS is CSGO, you know, i'm not good at it, i sometimes get FPS issues, i'm not use to play the source engine, i don't like this post-processing crap but what other game offers the above, a game that's proper with a competitive matchmaking scene with ranks and a learning curve which you can follow. Some of you might be thinking, "OH but 1.6 and CSS didn't have an inbuilt competitive system", your right, but prior to the release of CSGO, there were a large player base of competitive players willing to do clan wars/pugs. CSGO is aspiring you as an individual to grow better at the game.

Your right im not forced to play but based on my restrictions, I really don't have a choice do I? You don't just tell me to play some other game or do whatever, you don't know me, everyone is different.

For anyone that says "No one is forced to play it" is an egoistic bastard that should consider other people's perspective and cirumstances. Furthermore if I really did found something to do, would I be bitching and making a complaint on this forum? As much as I would rather prefer to play 1.6 than CSGO, I have my options restricted, so of course I have to play CSGO, I'm not FORCED to play it rather I'm pushed to play it,

And Besides gaming what else can give me pleasure? Masturbating? Mate i can only do that every hour or two.

Post edited 2014-01-29 07:11:18
2014-01-29 07:01:52
Where am i defending a game, all im saying is - no one forced you to play it.
2014-01-28 21:04:15
by: Ayman - HLTV.org
#135
And it's a stupid statement overall. Like telling a cancer kid "no one is forcing you to be alive"

People do want to play CS, but are forced to csgo when it's not near to be pleasent in alot of areas, people are here and play the game because of the competitive side of the game, to be involved in e-sport.

A guy that was playing 1.6 or CS:S and want's to be involved in fps esport IS forced to then play this game, because there is no pro scene in the other two. So yes, it's quite a massive force right there.

Post edited 2014-01-28 21:16:59
2014-01-28 21:12:13
If you compare Cancer to a Game, then you clearly have your priorities wrong.

People who wont to play CS Does it if they want to, no one has been forced to do so.

If people dont like the game, and still want to play competetivly then yeah, they have to play CSGO - but again, its their choice, to turn on their PC Everyday and join a CSGO Server, not valves.

Whatever you do, however you twist and turn it, it will always be your own decision to play the game :)
2014-01-28 22:24:53
by: Ayman - HLTV.org
#145
Ya I'm done here, you are talking about obvious stuff and not the actual issue with the game. "people can just turn off their pcs" okay son

Post edited 2014-01-28 22:35:28
2014-01-28 22:35:10
"Okay son" ... Jesus..

2014-01-28 23:10:18
by: Ayman - HLTV.org
#150
"Jesus"
2014-01-28 23:26:41
Please shut the fuck up kevzz, and get better at cs before you shittalk on esea
2014-02-02 20:10:39
I think you are saying this because deep down you know you like the game, but hate the fact that you were higher skilled in 1.6 and source.

BUT you like GO more then 1.6 and source, since you dont go back :)
2014-01-28 23:31:11
by: Ayman - HLTV.org
#180
Thats not true at all since I'm a better player in GO than I was in CS:S or 1.6.

Either way I am not saying I don't like the game, I'm saying it could be better in alot of areas if valve wasn't so scared of changes and started listening to the community about the majority of things instead of only tiny things NiP would spit out.

Either way I only joined this conversation because I hate the term "nobody is forcing you to play it".
2014-01-29 21:00:04
I don't really know what you all expect of CS2, you'll bitch about it the same way as any new sequel in the CS franchise. Even with CSP a lot of 1.6sers said that they won't play it just because its not 1.6.

So no matter how it will look like, it will get flamed.
2014-01-28 19:37:38
+1 thruth has been spoken here!
2014-01-28 23:34:04
yep..so sad. I actually liked CSP a bit more than 1.6.

- better netcode
- first bullet always on spot
- a BIT easier movement, which is good for newbies ...but not to a degree its completely dumbed down ....

well..it had some potential...if only Valve and Alex G. wouldnt be such assholes...
2014-01-29 01:34:00
who is alex g. ?
2014-01-29 01:40:13
Alex Garfied. CEO of EG and owner of CSP.
2014-01-29 02:11:35
if he's the owner of csp, what did he do? :3
2014-01-29 02:34:02
http://www.hltv.org/news/9719-garfield-csp-not-a-g..

Read that interview. It's basically a collection of massive lies he was telling.

- they didn't get an investor
- he promised the lead developer to get a paid job > ofc not > lead developer left cuz of that
- he hired 3D studios to do models and stuff for them > never payed them ...

aaaand and and. He basically ruined the whole project.

And Valve didnt allow CSP to use "classic" maps. Like d2 and shit.... :).

Well..sad.
2014-01-29 02:59:45
bullshit
2014-01-31 13:45:42
it looks awesome...
2014-01-28 20:39:06
Just in case people didn't know: the pictures are from 2011. Thats quite some time ago...
2014-01-28 21:00:49
Oh :( my theory is down lol
2014-01-31 16:46:51
Like they said on Reddit. This is probably L4D2 ported to Source 2 to test the engine. They also pointed out that this "leak" was 1 year old. Also worth noting is that just because the ported aesthetics does not mean it will run very well.

Post edited 2014-01-28 21:02:20
2014-01-28 21:01:49
Prepare for unforeseen consequences !

HL3 <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3
2014-01-28 23:17:49
are you high?
2014-01-28 23:36:30
They will upgrade only the graphics, just like the last time?
2014-01-29 00:21:32
Upgrade (Valve definition): Throw shitloads of unnecessary clutter, boxes, cans, chickens, and other shit.
2014-01-29 00:35:13
They are just trying to replicate ($) CoD and BF stuff.
2014-01-29 00:51:03
This makes perfect sense why valve doesnt make any big changes in csgo gameplay, coz cs2 is coming. And I hope it will be ultimate counterstrike, a true successor of 1.6
2014-01-29 01:54:59
there will never be a "true" successor of 1.6... face the reality.
any new cs game will get a lot of hate because it won't meet the expectations of the community, it never will.
so just be happy with csgo now since the game isn't so bad after all and even more important we got ONE united community now, don't let the story between 1.6 and css happen again.
2014-01-29 02:40:34
Valve has shown how fucking clueless they are about 1.6, its over, CSGO is all there's left from CS. I hope Riot buys the damn title and does the community a favour or something similar happens. There's no way Valve is going to be the answer to our prayers.
2014-01-29 02:54:30
The comparison isn't valid for anything at all and seem a bit silly.. but really really good news.
2014-01-29 13:56:41
Source is an engine. It doesn't mean there is a CS2 being released.
2014-01-30 18:29:30
Hey, i think cs2 means counter-strike 2 so, that means that they maybe will port cs to source 2, and i'm saying this because in this image http://i.imgur.com/F5zM4Vr.png we can find leftfordead2_imported / leftfordead2_source2 / leftfordead3 / in some way we can realise that this means that they may port l4d2 to source2 and in the same way the may do the same thing to cs..
The same think happens to other games, there says
tf/ tf_imported/ <- to source2
hl3/ hl3_imported/ <- to source2
dota/ dota_imported/ <- to source2

Do you understand?

Post edited 2014-01-31 16:47:02
2014-01-31 16:45:21
well, in some way cs2 means cs go if this photo is from 2011 lol
2014-01-31 16:47:46

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