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by: VxO4
#1
14-16 US
2013-11-26 16:07:50
IBP 16 X 12
2013-11-26 16:17:03
Gonna be good match!
2013-11-26 16:19:03
sup magnus
2013-11-26 17:00:02
pls
2013-11-26 17:05:33
sup headlake
2013-11-28 09:12:38
hahaha :DD
2013-11-28 14:14:00
iBP has more talent but US has more LAN experience.

Should be a close 16-12 for iBP.
2013-11-26 16:24:58
pls leave.
2013-11-27 20:35:26
i hope this is going to happened
2013-11-27 22:29:14
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
good joke
2013-11-27 23:46:29
What he said is actually true. If you look at raw talent then yes, iBP is superior to US lineup. Still, its not all about talent, US will take it.
2013-11-27 23:57:18
It's not at all true.
2013-11-28 11:54:14
watch out! they can measure human talent...
2013-11-28 14:08:09
even your nickname is a lie
2013-11-28 14:40:39
you wish pal
2013-11-28 14:45:44
iBP ez~
2013-11-26 16:30:29
gl US
2013-11-26 16:31:53
Ez for us
2013-11-26 16:58:20
Gogo US
2013-11-26 17:19:35
izipizi for US on lan

Post edited 2013-11-26 17:24:59
2013-11-26 17:24:43
US! GL! :)
2013-11-26 18:50:50
IBP EASY PEZY
2013-11-26 18:57:20
Goodluck US
2013-11-26 19:18:58
gl both teams!!
2013-11-26 19:42:22
USA gonna win

Post edited 2013-11-26 20:19:06
2013-11-26 20:18:52
I think those 2 teams will be the surprise of the tournament. Too bad they are in the same group.
2013-11-26 23:47:09
So excited!!! iBP 16-12
2013-11-26 23:52:15
one Skaddoodle to rule them all
2013-11-26 23:52:59
by: LSN~
#86
yop ;D
2013-11-27 19:56:51
gonna be a nice match
2013-11-27 00:06:00
gogo US!
2013-11-27 00:54:50
iBUYPOWER lez go brah!
2013-11-27 01:27:00
Easy fo iBP DaZeD rulez..
2013-11-27 01:28:41
cant wait~!!
2013-11-27 01:53:49
The US team will win
2013-11-27 01:54:04
US 16-10
2013-11-27 02:55:55
USA > US
2013-11-27 03:47:32
USA>US
2013-11-27 03:52:23
iBP to sh!t on many in this tourney, this looks like 16-9 and don't be surprised. Aggro DaZeD leading 4 passive personalities is ideal since I never really felt adren wanted to call people out and didn't get the best results from his players.
2013-11-27 03:56:16
yeah 2 autowhores in ibp = win
2013-11-27 16:44:52
I'm also an auto-whore it is my favorite gun in the stats sheet. I don't understand underdog euro teams that don't rock 2 or 3 to see if they can't break momentum of a team that's ahead of them on paper.
2013-11-27 21:23:30
come on US!
2013-11-27 05:06:59
iBP will win easily 16-7
2013-11-27 05:39:57
iBP to win DH.
2013-11-27 06:46:21
You just can't stop Neo, TaZ & pasha biceps. Nuff' said.
2013-11-27 07:29:31
Maybe we can't, but iBP can.
2013-11-27 12:34:54
Perfect reply :)

iBP will win this.
2013-11-27 18:46:37
No, they can't.
2013-11-28 16:24:20
tight match, depends of the map, i think iBUY can win d2 or cache, but not others maps.
2013-11-27 07:37:40
Pretty interesting since d2 and cache are the best US maps besides train ;d
2013-11-27 11:49:24
never train murica on cache
2013-11-27 23:44:46
Won't be surprised if iBP disappoint, for some reason I always have trouble trusting Adren + co. on LAN
2013-11-27 07:38:26
+1

Noth really seen anything too promising from US teams bar coL who took a map off NiP@ESEA iirc.
2013-11-27 13:25:14
It's not adreN + co any longer.

It's DaZeD + co. That is a HUGE difference.
2013-11-27 18:47:33
+1
2013-11-27 21:24:21
by: esoh
#38
ibuypower 16-8 USA USA USA USA USA USA
2013-11-27 07:40:50
50/50
2013-11-27 10:35:47
Cmon Pasha, I trust in your sniper abilities for dreamteam :)
2013-11-27 12:05:01
ibuypower come on USA!!
2013-11-27 12:18:11
US 16:12 !
2013-11-27 13:07:33
Ibp been making coL look like shit so I think the gonna man handle Usoldiers
2013-11-27 14:05:42
because col are really shit, especially sgares
2013-11-27 14:58:24
USA STRONK
2013-11-27 14:47:30
15-15
2013-11-27 14:49:33
US stronk
2013-11-27 14:58:49
us strong on lan 16-8
2013-11-27 16:32:03
US will rape those muricans like 16-4 or 16-6
2013-11-27 16:37:34
US 16-12
2013-11-27 16:40:45
US
2013-11-27 16:47:24
16-5 US
2013-11-27 16:48:38
US team vs US team gonna be good
2013-11-27 16:53:50
US team ez
2013-11-27 17:00:51
GOGO IBP!
2013-11-27 17:11:32
ez for skadoodle
2013-11-27 17:14:23
US > USA
2013-11-27 17:14:43
We gonna bring Freedom to Poland.
2013-11-27 17:23:28
Hahaha
2013-11-27 19:02:39
But we have no oil, bro. You don't have to. ;D
2013-11-27 19:16:32
LOL pwned

as an American, this is so true
2013-11-27 19:38:28
xD
2013-11-27 21:55:50
haha niceone
2013-11-27 22:53:12
n1 :)
2013-11-28 00:10:39
Show me Poland on the map.
2013-11-28 14:30:45
GL UNIVERSAL SOLDIERS !!!
2013-11-27 17:35:44
US 16-9
2013-11-27 18:02:54
this match will be one of the closest in the group stages by far.

both teams are trying to prove the exact same thing and both are ready to take down giants like NiP and VG, so long as they can break the nerves on eachother to begin with..

gotta root for my american boys, AZK and adreN both have to play well
2013-11-27 18:14:12
dis gon b gud, both can take this one
2013-11-27 18:17:34
IBP easy!

<3 DaZeD
2013-11-27 18:19:47
Isn´t this US vs US? Kappa Kappa Kappa
2013-11-27 18:40:11
gonna be a goodmatch. could go either way. neo usually rapes muuricans though
2013-11-27 18:44:58
Such a fucking sad time for the US audience and then it's also during the week. :(
2013-11-27 18:46:43
I cannot see iBP losing this. US do not have any strats and have been winning maps purely relying on their aim.

iBP lead by DaZeD have a team full of just as skilled aimers and have DaZeD's strats + adjustments mid game.

iBP will win this.
2013-11-27 18:49:34
dazed has no strats for the most part, but he is one of the best igls in the game because he's good at reading what the other teams trying to to and looking for the weak spots in their rotations

if ibp aren't gettin their picks they're fucked tho
2013-11-27 18:51:30
That's why I mentioned "adjustments".

I understand that's his biggest asset, but you have to remember they were led by adreN for a long time before him. I can guarantee you they have some of their old pre-set strats from the adreN days waiting to be used.
2013-11-27 18:53:57
adreN can't call at this level

maybe for eco rounds they'll have something nifty to do but with all that raw aiming talent it's dumb to try and force anything
2013-11-27 19:19:48
Is adreN good as a player, I haven't been following the NA scene much, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems as though he's a good bit below the rest in terms of individual skill, at least judging from his recent matches.

Post edited 2013-11-27 20:43:14
2013-11-27 20:42:56
adreN is either their 4th or 5th best player depending on if Skadoodle is hitting his shots. Last Dreamhack Skadoodle did awful, so assuming that changes this time adreN would be the weakest link yes.

adreN used to be the IGL and his style was pre-set strats.

I am just assuming that with DaZeD's ability to react and adapt mid-game and some of adreN's pre-set strat's the team learned earlier, they can go far. That is if they decide to use them, which I see no reason not to.

I am not actually counting on adreN's frags as much as what he could contribute in helping DaZeD.

Post edited 2013-11-27 20:51:05
2013-11-27 20:50:02
The awp is a fickle mistress in cs:go and honestly ska, dazed and anger are all on par with each other adren and azk are slightly behind their skill levels. But you may see more from adren with the pressure of leading off his shoulders.
2013-11-27 21:32:19
Hopefully

Post edited 2013-11-27 21:37:51
2013-11-27 21:36:55
imo hes highly underrated, hes defiantly at the bottom of the team in terms of individual skill, but thats not really a bad thing given how skilled the whole team is. his problem is that hes a little inconstant, but when hes playing well he can definitely make up for other players having a bad day. also adren is actually a pretty good awper, so if skadoodle is wiffing he can always pick up the awp too.
2013-11-27 21:38:08
Yeah, I've seen him play well, it's just that I'm worried he won't be able to keep up with teams like VG and NiP. Especially given their low experience with European teams.
2013-11-27 21:50:34
have you seen their recent esea matches? adren has been killing it and to me he has improved the most and stands right behind anger in fragging ability. dazed has the one since playing that has been bottom fragging.

ranking:
ska
anger
adren/azk. tie
dazed
2013-11-27 22:32:07
I havn't seen any of their esea matches this season actually, but I was following them a lot when they were still Curse, like I said i definitely dont think adren is bad, and im not surprised to hear him doing well, but hes done well in the past then had cold streaks. from what ive seen he actually performs more on LAN, so hopefully he can do work at DH, and maybe being released from the IGL role has helped his fragging
2013-11-28 02:46:54
change dealer... you're freak!! madman!!! easy for US
2013-11-27 19:02:25
go to psychiatrist :D
2013-11-27 22:30:57
You're clueless. I'm sure that US have prepared crazy tactics, this is the most important lan in this year dude.
2013-11-28 00:21:38
As another polak told me on reddit, they claim that but never show anything.

We will see. I doubt it though.
2013-11-28 00:33:28
Now u can see iBP losing this? US won without even reaveling tt strats hahahaha

Post edited 2013-11-28 17:21:40
2013-11-28 17:21:19
What strats? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations you are better then the 2nd best NA team. Good one.

Poland is shit.
2013-11-28 20:50:45
by: ewg
#77
gl ibp
2013-11-27 19:02:06
ibp > US
2013-11-27 19:08:53
im wishing for us, but it will be extremely hard... anyway, if US could win it, im certain that they gonna make some damage in next matches ;p
2013-11-27 19:48:51
easy for iBP
2013-11-27 19:48:59
usa go home!
2013-11-27 20:12:24
Did IBP allready played against any european team?
2013-11-27 20:27:08
Nope! First match
2013-11-27 20:28:27
Once they play their first match, they will have bootcamped for almost a week, scrimming Euro teams for about 12 hours a day.

In terms of DHW, no, this is their first official match.
2013-11-27 20:56:00
People saying US have no strats are retarded. This is the biggest tournie evah, US did prac some strats undercover believe me.
2013-11-27 20:32:17
by: sxg
#92
When will this start?
2013-11-27 20:32:23
In 5 hours and 30 minutes.
2013-11-28 09:04:30
by: sxg
#198
the only decent person to reply. thx ;)
2013-11-28 14:49:35
easy 16:5 for US <3
2013-11-27 20:33:02
16-13 US Win
2013-11-27 21:02:42
by: x4^
#99
US gogogo
2013-11-27 21:13:00
Would love to see US be in the finals.. NEO is stil the best player just needs his teammates to step up now
2013-11-27 21:16:07
Hes nowhere even near to be a top15 player in the world atm. Dunno if serious or trying to bait some reaction but
2013-11-28 03:34:04
US GOG OGOGOGOGOGO !
2013-11-27 21:18:16
offline USA never won anything.
2013-11-27 21:53:27
GL PROland!
2013-11-27 21:57:31
USA offline, most overrated shit ever.

gl taz~
2013-11-27 21:59:20
Because Germany is fucking good offline too right?
2013-11-27 22:05:03
Too good to even attend DreamHack
2013-11-27 22:20:16
germany what? where did i mention germany or what's the reason you bring it in?
2013-11-27 22:30:05
never throw stones if you are sitting in a glass house :D
2013-11-27 22:33:11
Why did I bring it in? Because Germany is the most overrated offline right now. They are not even worthy of being invited to DH. And most likely Mouz won't even make it out of BYOC.
2013-11-27 22:33:34
haha we'll see, i know that the german scene has some trouble since csgo but that doesn't change my point.
2013-11-27 22:40:41
pls
2013-11-27 22:08:03
The most overrated offline shit = <insert any German team here>
2013-11-27 22:17:48
US easy 16:4
2013-11-27 22:28:02
is skadoodle from css? where did he play before?
2013-11-27 22:28:03
He played AVA. The kid is crazy talented, he never played CS before GO. A few weeks into the game and was already destroying players with +5 years of CS experience.
2013-11-27 22:31:21
Usually chokes on LAN tho.

Thats what +5 years of expirience gives you ability not to do.

Post edited 2013-11-27 22:33:52
2013-11-27 22:33:03
He doesn't have +5 years of CS experience but he has LAN experience from AVA and other games.

He even went to S.Korea for a LAN. He should do great in this DH if he doesn't get too nervous and plays like always.
2013-11-27 22:36:14
Who cares about AVA, this is CS.

Havent seen him play as good offline, as he did online. We'll see this weekend.
2013-11-27 22:37:49
you didnt even see him playing offline,youre just a bandwagon random user,deal with it
2013-11-27 22:55:55
Yes, i did. He wasnt as good as he is online. Deal with it, another random user.
2013-11-27 23:55:33
Hes done well at LAN before. Hes just inconsistent offline. Wasn't he one of the top players at the last Copenhagen games?
2013-11-28 00:37:00
He did, good memory. :D
2013-11-28 00:40:45
But still his experience is like 0.0001% of Neo, taz and pasha experience so don't be overconfident about him and your team :)

Post edited 2013-11-28 00:26:24
2013-11-28 00:24:02
hah, why joelz was so good @ wasm then ? ;)
2013-11-28 08:01:29
No idea what you are talking about, not following Finnish "scene" at all. Not worth it.
2013-11-28 08:02:55
thanks mate
2013-11-28 08:41:51
US :3
2013-11-27 23:14:58
GL POLAND !
2013-11-27 23:31:34
Sorry but IBP has no chance even tho US isn't the best, USA just can't compete against euro teams.
2013-11-27 23:40:14
That's why the core of coL has won and lost to VeryGames on 4 maps. Riiiight.
2013-11-28 00:11:38
iBP to win this !
2013-11-27 23:45:42
heart: US
brain: iBP

gl both! hope for a close match
2013-11-27 23:52:27
by: sxg
#140
so this starts at 8:30 tommorow morning EST. time?
2013-11-28 00:04:20
yep
2013-11-28 00:06:23
5:30am for west coast :[ W/e I gotta dress the turkey up early anyway.
2013-11-28 00:20:21
:D
2013-11-28 02:10:38
Actually this game doesn't matter at all.

What matters is their second game this day as clearly winner of this game will lose with NiP and loser of this game will easily win with Recursive.

It will all boil down do second match of iBP vs US.

Go go US :)
2013-11-28 00:12:27
+1 You are right. This is what's probably gonna happen. These 2 teams are gonna play each other twice in the same day. lol
2013-11-28 02:09:41
You should not count Recursive out so fast ;)
2013-11-28 03:35:49
Ofc :-) These are just predictions :-)
gl hf to all teams.

Post edited 2013-11-28 08:16:45
2013-11-28 08:16:14
easy US :P
2013-11-28 01:05:31
I hope that iBP lose, 'cause i dont' like potatoes.
2013-11-28 01:11:01
iBP. talent over experience.
2013-11-28 06:22:35
byali and snax are very talented either ;)
2013-11-28 10:09:06
hahahahahahaha
2013-11-28 12:52:36
byali's aim is the best in US he just needs some experience and snax is igl and still he plays decent. :) laugh, laugh polaczku.
2013-11-28 13:14:08
please die, useless brain
2013-11-28 13:55:44
Pathetic :)
2013-11-28 13:58:46
3 of US players wrote that they were saving strats for Dreamhack and that's why they haven't played good recently. We will see, I hope for an epic match! :)
2013-11-28 06:45:15
NEO will RISE

GL HF
2013-11-28 07:14:42
iBUYPOWER that name means they have skill from pulpit f12 knights.16:2 for US easy game
2013-11-28 07:20:00
go go US must be easy !
2013-11-28 08:07:42
According to cArn, US are clear favorites. We shall see cArn, we shall see.
2013-11-28 08:28:33
You don't see if one team is the favorite after the match ends lol

Post edited 2013-11-28 11:54:17
2013-11-28 11:54:09
I dont understand your gibberish. I'm saying, carn has suggested Universal Soldiers are favored to win this match up. Simply, it means the odds are in US favor. Do you still not understand? The fucking French man, I swear...

ALL HAIL MURICA
2013-11-28 13:47:08
The point is after the match is over there's no favorites, just the winner and the loser. A favorite to win, you know.
2013-11-28 16:10:24
easy for US 16:5
2013-11-28 08:47:10
byali 30 bomb inc
2013-11-28 09:00:52
cmon US
2013-11-28 10:57:25
I thought i won't be able to see this match but i ended shooting tournament already and have so much time. DH FTW
2013-11-28 11:41:25
US Will easy rape that iBUY"something"
2013-11-28 12:03:03
iBUYPOWER
2013-11-28 12:35:41
anger > US
2013-11-28 13:11:47
EZ PZ 4 Poles!
2013-11-28 13:53:37
lets go POLAND!
2013-11-28 14:20:50
16;3 for US :)

EASY!
2013-11-28 14:24:50
NEO will win this for US ;)
2013-11-28 14:30:35
Pointless match, they will meet again in the lower bracket final to decide who goes through as the second placed team.
2013-11-28 14:33:34
go IBP
2013-11-28 14:38:57
AdreN backwards is NerdA, like nerd, fun stuff.
2013-11-28 14:40:02
only fanboys or idiots can tell easy for US, that will be very balanced match.
2013-11-28 14:51:45
US rape 16:1 IBP
2013-11-28 14:57:14
#199
you ashamed of the Polish flag?

Post edited 2013-11-28 15:13:16
2013-11-28 15:11:38
ohhhhhhhhh
2013-11-28 15:29:53
by: sxg
#203
when the hell does this start..holy shit
2013-11-28 15:32:38
HAHAHAHAHHAHA DaZeD, why he takes the microphone, please.
2013-11-28 15:40:29
dis pregame show...
2013-11-28 15:44:22
DAFUQ HAH
2013-11-28 15:45:51
go go murica stronk
2013-11-28 15:46:33
nice eco by poleS
2013-11-28 15:48:55
why the hell in-game sound just works on left side of the headset ?
2013-11-28 15:49:22
snax xd
2013-11-28 16:00:00
Edward in back of US :D
2013-11-28 16:00:36
iBP have no idea how to fight pistols lol
2013-11-28 16:01:24
polish pistol strong :)
2013-11-28 16:01:50
BICEPS PASHA RUNDA NASZA
2013-11-28 16:05:08
pasha, MONSTER :D
2013-11-28 16:05:14
paszaaaaaaaa =D
2013-11-28 16:05:41
passha
2013-11-28 16:05:58
go home muricans, told you you got no chances against US
2013-11-28 16:06:52
lol
2013-11-28 16:08:24
NSA need to hack US pc's if ibp want a chance
2013-11-28 16:07:15
10:5 US
2013-11-28 16:08:31
omg iBUYPOWER is bad
2013-11-28 16:09:35
I wouldnt say they're bad, its just the USA teams have a different playstyle completely and they way they play in canada and us is way different from the europenian gaming, so what the usa teams need to do if they wanna be able to compete on the scene with other teams they need to really watch gamestyle of NiP, AD, VG, fnatci, LGB, NaVim US ect teams and do what those teams do, otherwise, USA teams will keep on losing if they continue on playing as if this was ESEA online pugs....
2013-11-28 16:19:00
its over
2013-11-28 16:09:37
haha iBP should definitelly consider l2p
2013-11-28 16:14:57
well done US
2013-11-28 16:15:05
NEO
2013-11-28 16:15:32
neo is back?
2013-11-28 16:15:58
looks like
2013-11-28 16:16:28
Go home Hamburger.
2013-11-28 16:16:02
iBP will pwn right?
2013-11-28 16:16:08
NEO, uh, just wow :)
2013-11-28 16:16:14
where to see hltv.org the statistics on the AWP, I found only on pistols round
2013-11-28 16:16:24
neo n1 :D
2013-11-28 16:16:52
NEO BRINGING SEXY BACK
2013-11-28 16:17:29
Raped by US, what a joke those NA players -.-
2013-11-28 16:18:00
cya
2013-11-28 16:23:21
USA layed down by US
2013-11-28 16:23:34
16:9 for US

gg
2013-11-28 16:23:45
GG US!! Well Done!
2013-11-28 16:23:55
gg
2013-11-28 16:24:18
What's up muricans? :) GG :)
2013-11-28 16:24:41
USA bad play, as always
2013-11-28 16:24:42
don't cry
2013-11-28 16:25:41
Rape rape rapeee US PWn >>>
2013-11-28 16:25:05
ohoohohohohohhhhhhhh fanboys USA???
2013-11-28 16:25:15
muricans go back to your debt numbers
2013-11-28 16:25:51
gg
2013-11-28 16:26:03
That was just pure rape of the fat muricans ass
2013-11-28 16:27:07
damn, was hoping for the americans but the poles are looking very strong
2013-11-28 16:27:30
There we go your iBUYPOWER, fat overrated muricans.
2013-11-28 16:27:45
Nice US, but vs low opponent
2013-11-28 16:27:57
low? lel pls
2013-11-28 16:29:55
okay WHO ARE IBUYSHIT?
2013-11-28 16:30:40
top1 of USA, enough said
2013-11-28 16:31:27
top1 USA u can easily put urself in da ass. In Europe they are nothing.
2013-11-28 16:34:18
it's not an end for iBUYPOWER, they can still win against US in lower :P
2013-11-28 16:36:48
low compared to nip,vg,ad,fnatic,sk etc.
2013-11-28 16:30:58
I think that iBUYPOWER can win second game against US in lower bracket
2013-11-28 16:33:07
No they can't, america will never compete against europe, america in cs:go is like 3rd world country.
2013-11-28 16:39:50
as expected
2013-11-28 16:28:35
murica ? oh wait
2013-11-28 16:28:57
I didn't watch the full match but I'm guessing adreN was dragging the team down.
2013-11-28 16:29:05
Correct
2013-11-28 16:32:57
skadoodle hit some awp shots, the others played really bad, never really got it going especially azk i expected so much from him he seemed like a madfragger

Post edited 2013-11-28 16:33:43
2013-11-28 16:33:20
dat choke
2013-11-28 16:34:07
Snax and byali finally proved they are worth being in golden five :). Grats, guys, gr8 match
2013-11-28 16:34:35
they are still far to be golden ;d
2013-11-28 16:35:54
No they didnt they just one against a team who isnt even top10 in the world, the GOLDEN5 requires winning big tournaments which they havent done but if they keep playing good they might just win
2013-11-28 16:35:55
IMO they showed an amazing performance, playing on extremely good level. Keep it up!
2013-11-28 16:43:38
dude.. golden5.. after 1 match? I mean, come on..

It takes years to get to that level and to earn the right to become g5!
2013-11-28 19:47:31
+1

they're not even close to g5, maybe bronze5, close to shit
2013-11-28 18:18:45
whats the result i didnt get to watch the match :(
2013-11-28 16:35:02
iBUY disband after DH
2013-11-28 17:50:08
NA disband after DH :DD
2013-11-28 20:41:41
Again it seems that USA doesn't stand any chance against EU teams

Post edited 2013-11-28 20:38:40
2013-11-28 20:38:32

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