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mTw vs. Natus Vincere| IP: | Match over |
| Time: | 20:45 - 3rd of October |
| Game: |  Counter-Strike 1.6 |
| Status: |  |
| Coverage: | WCG 2010 |
Announcements
Maps:
1st - de_inferno 8:16
2nd - de_tuscan 16:14
3rd - de_train 18:22
Na'Vi win WCG 2010
1st - de_inferno 8:16
2nd - de_tuscan 16:14
3rd - de_train 18:22
Na'Vi win WCG 2010
voting finished
minet(3.8%)
trace(2.4%)
Sunde(5.3%)
ave(11.5%)
zonic(2.4%)
voting finished
starix(5.3%)
esenin(4.8%)
Zeus(3.8%)
markeloff(12.4%)
Edward(48.3%)
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PM: mTw
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PM: Natus Vincere
Natus Vincere vs fnatic
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vs place2play.ru
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vs Anexis
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vs Corsair
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| Betting Tendency |
| mTw (1) Draw (X) Na`Vi (2) 28.49% 0.96% 70.55% |
Na'Vi easy
You are dumb unless you are joking.
Na'Vi
Easy goin
Easy goin
2-0
This is the dream finale. It will not be easy for Na´Vi, nor will it be easy for mTw. These teams always play close.
2-1 Na´Vi :)
2-1 Na´Vi :)
he is portuguese
so? navi win.
Probably unless Zonic can ninja defuse like he did against coL.br (video below):
http://winout.net/index.php?page=view_movie&id=341
http://winout.net/index.php?page=view_movie&id=341
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JM9cNdWUJE
Post edited 2010-10-03 07:00:52
Post edited 2010-10-03 07:00:52
easy 4 NAVI mTw will not score more than 10 rounds on the map
NO
no chanse for navi!
mtw win this match!
mtw win this match!
it's not easy for navi
16-4, 16-2 for navi Ofc mtw play bad tournament. And have more luck than skill in bracket ; )
Post edited 2010-10-03 16:10:21
Post edited 2010-10-03 16:10:21
Yea yea they played bad and they came to GRAND FINAL dumb ass...Omg if u don't have nothing clever to post then don't post pls...
fx noobs
Na'Vi !
Na'Vi for sure! :@
Note: This match will be played on stage and will not have HLTV.
WTF ?! :@@@
WTF ?! :@@@
Yeah, it's gonna be stream, with low quality.. 2 sad
however, the commentators are just awsome! :D
like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8otcTXpLa-Y
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWkyQpr7Sqk
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExoSPYXNdas
makes the experience complete :P
like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8otcTXpLa-Y
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWkyQpr7Sqk
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExoSPYXNdas
makes the experience complete :P
Ip: Stream...
Come on, give us stream AND HLTV :)
Good luck mTw!
Good luck mTw!
mTw
WTFFFFFFFFFFFF no HLTV???????
Post edited 2010-10-03 02:48:38
Post edited 2010-10-03 02:48:38
nope :( so sad
new?
www.live.wcg.com :)
mTw deserved respect, but Na ` Vi seems unbeatable, it's gonna be hard match for mTw.. GL mTw, show those noobs some skill :)))
+1 hopefully :)
mTw deserve some respect? LOL they lost to k29 to get easier play-offs.
Na`Vi should win THIS SHEEET!
Na`Vi should win THIS SHEEET!
If you know their previous tournament matches, u know they met in the 1/8 brackets, where mTw lost 2 times
so I can understand this tactical lost against k29.
Its way better with going home with a silver medal than with nothing in TOP16.
My english suxx :D
Post edited 2010-10-03 11:14:44
so I can understand this tactical lost against k29.
Its way better with going home with a silver medal than with nothing in TOP16.
My english suxx :D
Post edited 2010-10-03 11:14:44
+1
i think Na'Vi
match of the year!!!
navi....and no hltv? o.O
mTw already lost,lost to k29. But it's doesn't matter, now the will meet Na'Vi and as usually will be raped.
yeah last time they lost on both maps going into overtime, what a rape....
Last match they lost 16:1 in train dude (3rd map) only tuscan was in overtime (K)
no, last time both maps went into overtime
e: check latest matches between them: http://www.sk-gaming.com/match/37451
Post edited 2010-10-03 04:03:41
e: check latest matches between them: http://www.sk-gaming.com/match/37451
Post edited 2010-10-03 04:03:41
NAVI 16-13 16-10
really the best match ... it's going to be one of the best WCG finals ! I hope that it'll be a nice match !
navi
Goooo Na'Vi
mTw once again go to final of WCG (or ESWC). They really have bound with 2 biggest esport champion :D. But I hope Natus Vicere will win.
Post edited 2010-10-03 03:03:12
Post edited 2010-10-03 03:03:12
They need a better quality stream or they need to provide a HLTV AND a stream so we can choose. Personally I would watch every match through HLTV if I could. I like being able to watch certain players and control the screen. Streams are lame.
Only stream? :(
Seriously, the overall quality of streams has to be improved if they're going to air finals with streams only. When their streams have such low quality they should at least give the users a chance to choose for themselves. Why does everything have to be about $$ :(
Seriously, the overall quality of streams has to be improved if they're going to air finals with streams only. When their streams have such low quality they should at least give the users a chance to choose for themselves. Why does everything have to be about $$ :(
No hltv? :(
Still gonna be sweet match! gogo mTw!
Still gonna be sweet match! gogo mTw!
Has anyteam ever won ESWC and WCG in the same year?
yes I guess...iw was FX...
but NAVI've got also IEM glopal this year.
but NAVI've got also IEM glopal this year.
GL MTW
YH MTW
Good Luck Na`Vi !!
whahaaha mTw in the finals fullgaming last in groupstage lmao they taught they would go top3 they were to confident when they beated Mtw wcg 2010 denmark finals
give steam and HLTV!!!
Go Na'Vi !
na`vi the best
Post edited 2010-10-03 03:54:28
Post edited 2010-10-03 03:54:28
mtw is afraid of natus and cant show the game on 100 %. open the eyes kids.
Na'Vi will win 2-0 but not so easy
Post edited 2010-10-03 04:11:28
Post edited 2010-10-03 04:11:28
nice match !!!
GL navi
GL navi
Nix, is there will be a demo for this match?
Cause if it isnt that would be a fail for the final.
Cause if it isnt that would be a fail for the final.
GO GO MTW!!!
gl Na`Vi
wtf no hltv how yo watch this match then?
with stream?? -.-
Na`vi!
i have trace ave and zonic on my dreamteam so i guess its gonna be MTW that wins wcg 2010 :P
omg...This match will be played on stage and will not have HLTV
WTF?? in the final? amazing..
well...GL navi...u r the best =)
WTF?? in the final? amazing..
well...GL navi...u r the best =)
fnatic go go! :D
ps: gl na'vi
ps: gl na'vi
what a fail ..
hope for mTw
for mother Ukraine!!! for all fun's!!!
NAVI NAVI NAVI!!!
NAVI NAVI NAVI!!!
Match you just have to see! I´m cheering for NaVi guys but gl both =) It will be great final!
will dey provide da hltv in between like in da last years final?
fx and fnatic
fx and fnatic
mtw got su lucky... look at their matches, so lucky, they even managed to lose against random teams
navi will win!
Hope navi can win the title. They really deserve it. FX are legends of cs because of winning ESWC and WCG twice, but navi can become the new legend by winning 3 biggest titles in 1 year. (IEM, ESWC, WCG)
Na`VI gaBUUUUU!!!!!!!!
mtw doesnt deserver to be in the finals, they had a lot of random and easy teams to play, so lucky...
fucking stream
I cant even recognize their nicks through the shitty quality..
even esl-tv is better than this.
I cant even recognize their nicks through the shitty quality..
even esl-tv is better than this.
mtw pls beat navi in final
Na `Vi ............ besT of lucK :)
Best match we could have for final !
both Great teams , gonna be intresting .
GL Na`vi !
both Great teams , gonna be intresting .
GL Na`vi !
easy , very easy for Na`Vi!
2-0
16-7
16-9
2-0
16-7
16-9
gl Na'Vi
its joke right? no hltv?
omfg -.- WCG SUCKZ
i want to see markeloff with his awp ;D
omfg -.- WCG SUCKZ
i want to see markeloff with his awp ;D
mTw
Na`Vi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOGOGO
Na`Vi 2:0 imo easy.
mTw
Na'Vi destroy mTw :)
I don't think WCG has really ever aired their finals on hltv, so be happy there is a stream... I remember waiting for 2008's demos for the LOOONNGEST time because of mTw's epic scout strat on train.
Of course, I may be wrong.
Of course, I may be wrong.
mann i hope mTw will take this cuz i'm going to win a mouse =D
minet : camper or frisfrager? pls help :) thx
Newbie for this match
pff u're the newbie around here, minet is an uprising talent you'll see.
mTw showed at WCG an impressive style!
mTw will take this but it will be a close match
mTw will take this but it will be a close match
mTw ! =) I hope =) They deserve it more than Na´Vi
Note: This match will be played on stage and will not have HLTV.
fail...
fail...
Stream ^^ =(
GL Na'Vi!
i hope there will be hltv like last year in china,for 2nd map if i remember well...nuke were on stream and train had hltv...
if navi won with fx with mtw will be easier...
imo SK = FX = mTw
Na'Vi is better team in this year but in final everything is possible.
Propoblay Na'Vi but znonic and trace are one of the best players.
GL
Na'Vi is better team in this year but in final everything is possible.
Propoblay Na'Vi but znonic and trace are one of the best players.
GL
Na'Vi win this
navi looks unstopable but i hope mtw can do a miracle.
no dislike to ukrainians, they're great team and they deserved 1st place but mtw is my favorite team for some years and i will cheering for them.
anyway this year wcg is amazing)
no dislike to ukrainians, they're great team and they deserved 1st place but mtw is my favorite team for some years and i will cheering for them.
anyway this year wcg is amazing)
I think the maps will be tuscan,train,inf.
navi wins on train for sure.
both teams have 50% chance on the other 2 maps.
anyway, support mtw forever!
navi wins on train for sure.
both teams have 50% chance on the other 2 maps.
anyway, support mtw forever!
this is final match but ithing the tinal match was yesterday.. Fx vs SK /// sorro for my english :<
Navi sucks!! Go MTW!!
na'vi sucks? :} its funny
lez go mtw !
It's even better to look match on HLTV...Stream with bad quality sucks.. Give us both..:)
Na´Vi win!!
mTw suck!
should not reach even the quarter-finals
should not reach even the quarter-finals
Try to remember what happened with FX when they met at ESWC,ok?
Na'Vi POWER :D
I think 2-1 Na'Vi
i want dust2,train and inferno!
I think 2-1 Na'Vi
i want dust2,train and inferno!
I'm pretty sure that inferno will be eliminated by mTw :)
and not D2 ? i just always get the feeling that they struggle on D2 ?
Maybe but mTw told that they hardly practice inferno, because in most tournaments they can just eliminate it. They might have changed that dunno (:
Oh yeah, i remember reading that, we will see, gna be a great game none the less.. go mTw
im remember 2008 year!
mTw had a strongest ct side on inferno!
Nobody can won it :D
So may be u a right! :D
Gl both!
mTw had a strongest ct side on inferno!
Nobody can won it :D
So may be u a right! :D
Gl both!
gl both teams
no hltv for sure ?
it s gona b a 2-0 for na vi .if not den mtw wins for sure...
mtw practiced 18 hours per day for this match :))))))))))))))) i think that will be a close match! sunde or markeloff?
mark ofc. sunde dont show awp skill last tournmts.
i think markeloff dominated. if you looked how he played yesterday, you answering it for yourlself
i think markeloff dominated. if you looked how he played yesterday, you answering it for yourlself
I think Sunde did very well against coL, so maybe he is on the up, and can put up a fight against Marke
khm.. match be interesting.
Sunde vs markeloff
Ave vs Cen9
Zonic vs Zeus
Minet vs Edward
Trace vs Starix
IMHO
Post edited 2010-10-03 13:59:30
Sunde vs markeloff
Ave vs Cen9
Zonic vs Zeus
Minet vs Edward
Trace vs Starix
IMHO
Post edited 2010-10-03 13:59:30
It really is, imo it is the best final anyone could have hope for. :)
yea. mTw show too nice game novaday. Sorry BUT Na'Vi must be absolutely champions :)
Yea, im fanboy, at the championships with no Navi, I root for the mTw!!! no fnatic :)
Yea, im fanboy, at the championships with no Navi, I root for the mTw!!! no fnatic :)
Hey i agree i think Na'Vi is just that one step ahead of mTw, atleast they have been lately, but mTw are showing great form atm, so imo its gna be so so close this final. Im really looking forward to it :D go mTw
and i tell GO NAVI :)
hefan. gl to both)
hefan. gl to both)
maybe trace will get awp and take down markeloff! trace is also good awper
NAVI !!!
Natus ! :D
must shit to this final!!! Only fnatic
Navi will win it calmly. mTw for three years is into top 3 since in the phase playoff are hitting 2009 to weak opponents on wcg hit on fnatic and got perhaps to 8 and to a few. GL NAVI!
2-1 navi stream http://www.livestream.com/samsung
I both think and hope that Na´Vi will win this. I really think they deserve it and I didn't like what mTw did in their match vs k29.
:D You dont understand. mTw lose k29 because they want play on easy grid. they dont want meet any SK, any Na'Vi at semifinal
Yes, that's exactly what i meant. Is it good sportsmanship in your opinion to lose on purpose simply to face easier opponents in the playoffs?
hehe.. ask to anyone that question.
Its cybersport. Remember NAVI, they lost every game the French. Case in psychology and compatibility. Who is easier to play with one opponent than the other
Its cybersport. Remember NAVI, they lost every game the French. Case in psychology and compatibility. Who is easier to play with one opponent than the other
a lot of teams have done it before, its not an uncommon move, they always meet navi in quaterfinals and considering theyve lost all times, of course they will try to avoid them for as long as they can. Keep in mind they are competing about a lot of money
Yes, but that doesn't justify a move like that. Sure, greed isn't that uncommon, but when competing in one of the most prestige filled tournaments in e-sport I think one should play fair.
NA'VI OGGOOGOGOGOGOGOGO
NAVI!!!!!!
hltv.org za Na`Vi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJmyMA9xvaY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJmyMA9xvaY
I think Na´Vi, but i hope mTw
CMON mTw ! Do it for Denmark and Scandinavia !
Yaaay :D
Finally a swede that isn't so pissed at DK somehow :D
Finally a swede that isn't so pissed at DK somehow :D
:)
I´m gonna go out on a limb here and say: Na´Vi.
2:0
But good luck mTw. I personally don´t care how they lost to k29, they deserve to play in the final imo.
Na´Vi can only be stopped by one team atm, and that team is not attending WCG.
2:0
But good luck mTw. I personally don´t care how they lost to k29, they deserve to play in the final imo.
Na´Vi can only be stopped by one team atm, and that team is not attending WCG.
You know you. =D
gogo mTw!!!
It will be very close, but i think 2-1 to Na`Vi
Edward = zonic
Zeus > ave
Markeloff >> Sunde
ceh9 < minet
Starix => trace
Edward = zonic
Zeus > ave
Markeloff >> Sunde
ceh9 < minet
Starix => trace
trace > starix
starix > trace
navi will win
16-12
7-16
16;14
7-16
16;14
Here's my prediction:
1st - mTw
2nd - Na'Vi
3rd - Frag eXecutors
4th - compLexity
P.S Keep in mind of course this musn't be necessarily
true but that's what I am predicting.
1st - mTw
2nd - Na'Vi
3rd - Frag eXecutors
4th - compLexity
P.S Keep in mind of course this musn't be necessarily
true but that's what I am predicting.
NaVi u better win this one! GOGOGO crush them
Zeus > ave
starix > trace
ceh9 < zonic
edward = minet
markeloff => Sunde
starix > trace
ceh9 < zonic
edward = minet
markeloff => Sunde
esenin=ceh9 ?? :$
easy for NaVi :)
http://sng.by/gallery/180.html/8120/ ahhahaha :D
yeah marik really take it to the LA ahahah :DDD
translate plx
humm at "Na`Vi day", at Kiev CyberSport ARENA,26.09 (i was watching stream).
there was open pracc Na`Vi with France team IGA, many interesting contests and many other..
little boy(12years old) called Bohdan present that post for markeloff, u ofcourse can't understand it but it is very funny :D , amm I can't translate all, but - "Our markeloff King and God with AWP burn all, Na`Vi best Na`Vi stepr(don't my mistake, mistake by that guy)" he made many many mistakes.
and amm it is very funny :D
there was open pracc Na`Vi with France team IGA, many interesting contests and many other..
little boy(12years old) called Bohdan present that post for markeloff, u ofcourse can't understand it but it is very funny :D , amm I can't translate all, but - "Our markeloff King and God with AWP burn all, Na`Vi best Na`Vi stepr(don't my mistake, mistake by that guy)" he made many many mistakes.
and amm it is very funny :D
Note: This match will be played on stage and will not have HLTV. LOOOOOOOOOL PLX NO JOKE
Omg, I´m sick and tired of ppl abusing the ">" and "<" symbols!
Not abusing ">" and "<" > abusing ">" and "<".
Not abusing ">" and "<" > abusing ">" and "<".
agree!
>_<
>_<
<><><><><><><><><>
<><><> Sup? :)<><><>
<><><><><><><><><>
<><><> Sup? :)<><><>
<><><><><><><><><>
GOGOGO mTw
imo in this final should be on ofe these 2 teams SK/FX - mTw way to this final was much easier :)
pls dont nibble me, its my opinion!
Post edited 2010-10-03 16:32:23
pls dont nibble me, its my opinion!
Post edited 2010-10-03 16:32:23
gl mTw
hope 4 mtw, but the nolivealltimegamernaviplayers will win i guess -.-
casting live! link in my profile!
i truly believe trace will play like a monster and mTw win 2-0
mTw lost last close games to NAVI and they are so hungry for revenge
Post edited 2010-10-03 16:40:58
mTw lost last close games to NAVI and they are so hungry for revenge
Post edited 2010-10-03 16:40:58
you sir, are weak.
Na'Vi's gonna rape mtw, we all know that.
Sorry :/
Na'Vi's gonna rape mtw, we all know that.
Sorry :/
:D
GL Natus Vincere
navi
navi win!
match start in 3h and are 500posts AHAHA
nice <3
nice <3
2 0 for mtw? Is that a joke?
Zeus > ave
starix <= trace
ceh9 < zonic
edward > minet
markeloff >Sunde
navi win 2-1
starix <= trace
ceh9 < zonic
edward > minet
markeloff >Sunde
navi win 2-1
MTW #1
navi #2
FX #3
Post edited 2010-10-03 17:01:51
navi #2
FX #3
Post edited 2010-10-03 17:01:51
don't like Na`Vi's tag but brothers-ukrainians will win
NaVi.
mTw won everytime they reached a WCG final before? This time their opponents are just a class apart from them.
Na`Vi will winner !!!
I think Na'Vi will win this with score 2:1...It will be tough match...But its sad there is no hltv and stream is low qality :/...But we can't do anything i hope it will be on youtube tonight or tomorrow :D
According to the paper navi is better, but what we have seen from mTw latest mathces at WCG, they have been great and solid. In the end my guess will be 2-1 in navi favor. But lets not forget the maps, which will be very dependable of the score. Each have their strong and weak sides, what I've seen of navi have been strong either way. But lets not write off mTw, they have their up and downs.
Good luck to both teams !
Good luck to both teams !
Zeus > ave
starix > trace
ceh9 > minet
edward > zonic
markeloff >Sunde
Na`Vi WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2:0
16:7
16:9
starix > trace
ceh9 > minet
edward > zonic
markeloff >Sunde
Na`Vi WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2:0
16:7
16:9
na`vi didnt played tournaments for like 2 months so there is a chance that they done some things for nuke :D
why the fuck stream?
can someone post link for Zonic's ace against Lions. I can't find this on youtube.
2:1
mtw win
mtw win
mtw 2:1
let's just boycott this game and not watch it, so they will stop treating us like shit & start listening to the spectators's wishes...i mean i don't give a fuck about your commercials, all i want is to be able to watch any player, and not be forced to watch the only player that doesn't do anything every single round...
the better solution would be to find a way to put commercials on HLTV, and i think it's possible, that's the worst part of it (u know those "yellow" sentences that appears when watching an HLTV)...
the better solution would be to find a way to put commercials on HLTV, and i think it's possible, that's the worst part of it (u know those "yellow" sentences that appears when watching an HLTV)...
+1
4 navi!
Post edited 2010-10-03 17:53:49
Post edited 2010-10-03 17:53:49
stream FUUUUUUUUUUUU!
fu stream!
1st place how much money win?
Post edited 2010-10-03 18:22:43
Post edited 2010-10-03 18:22:43
LOLOLOLOL WHAT A ROUND
oh sry wrong therat
Post edited 2010-10-03 18:34:44
oh sry wrong therat
Post edited 2010-10-03 18:34:44
Na`Vi gl!!
Do we have demo for the FINALS this year ?
why it is not possible hltv and stream same time?
why it is not possible hltv and stream same time?
why it is not possible hltv and stream same time?
same question every ivent where is stream ! Stop that man it is allready not funny ...
who know link for stream in site http://www.cyberarena.tv/home.php
go navi, go edward! I really expect all navi player to step it up.
16-6 navi 16-3 navi
mTw: "Need backup!"
Me: "Roger that!"
Me: "Roger that!"
who know link for stream in site http://www.cyberarena.tv/home.php
Go NaVi!! We believe in you! Make Ukraine proud!!
:D
Na`Vi GOGOGO!!!!
Na`Vi GOGOGO!!!!
cmn NaVi !
Na`Vi 2-0 :)
I wish their stream wouldn't be of such poor quality... I don't understand why they can't dedicate a proper amount of bandwith to this, knowing that for the big matches it will be the only way for people to watch them.
wow nice match!:)
not easy for both teams...because both are good
im fan na`vi so i hope na`vi wins but it won`t be easy :>
im fan na`vi so i hope na`vi wins but it won`t be easy :>
if you guys think mtw can beat navi you're crazy, na'vi is in strong form for this tournament.16:9 16:14 navi
16:6, 16:9 i bet :P
Nothing is impossible! gogo fnatic!!! xD
fnatic???
what do you have against fnatic??? xDDDD
i hope theres gonna be demo from local private HLTV or somethin. Otherwise it sucks pretty hard... Nix maybe u can ask admins to not forgot to record the LAN hltv .-) Cheers
20k on Navi!
MINET <3!!! ZONIC <3!!!!!!!!! SUNDE <3!! TRACE <3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AVE <3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ahahah :D :D :D
GOGOGOGO
Na`Vi!!!!
GOGOGOGO
Na`Vi!!!!
minet=esenin
trace>zeus
Sunde<markeloff
ave<starix
zonic<Edward
trace>zeus
Sunde<markeloff
ave<starix
zonic<Edward
You are comparing the wrong players with each other :P it's supposed to be igl to igl, awp to awp etcetc. A more logical comparison between the players would be something like this:
markeloff > Sunde
starix < trace
minet = esenin
Edward = zonic
Zeus >= ave
markeloff > Sunde
starix < trace
minet = esenin
Edward = zonic
Zeus >= ave
not
Edward < zonic
Edward is not in shape he has not played well the past events, right now zonic is definetely playing better
Edward is not in shape he has not played well the past events, right now zonic is definetely playing better
gl Na`Vi =)
stream http://www.livestream.com/samsung go :)
hey guys when will be the match start,i mean when shall i watch as me in india.can u tell me the exact time...?
Set up your timezone in your profile and match schedules will display accordingly.
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hohoho .. cant wait for this one ..
*did that sound like santa?* :P
*did that sound like santa?* :P
go go xoxli win
What stream are you watching guys?
It will start after the starcraft shit dont worry
i have got problem with rayv :( not install a i dont see this match :((((
Try this
http://www.livestream.com/samsung?utm_source=website&utm_medium=promo-revolving&utm_campaign=samsung
No need of ravy .. I had same problem
http://www.livestream.com/samsung?utm_source=website&utm_medium=promo-revolving&utm_campaign=samsung
No need of ravy .. I had same problem
Jonathan hltv demo will be record right ?
I don't know, honestly. But I think there won't be.
not easy but Na'Vi 2-1
oi gl gl gl bot-players
** stream ._.
stream on in: ?
CMON!!!!!!!!!I HATE THAT SAMSUNG SPS AD:D
did it start?
cant believe im paying for the wcg stream, that STILL throws ads down my throat and continues to slash prize money from competitors. the same competitors that make this event worth watching.
ppppppllllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz iiiiiiippppppp......................
:::::::::((((((((((((
:::::::::((((((((((((
in general i like stream with commentary but this really sucks. i payd for high quality and still its worst than free esltv and 4:3. if they cant support this service then they should only have hltv
Did they start?
need HLTV!!!
OMG ITS STREAMING!
lol markeloff becomes starix and starix becomes markeloff
Amazing stream, counting the pixels as we speak. Greedy chinkfucks
PAYE FOR HIGH QUALITY, wtf , WCG very bad organisation , no seed , with poule with 4 team and poule with 2 team (auto qualified) and they want paye for look a stream! ....
these commentators sound like they heard about 1.6 5min ago
fuck my steam isn't working
Has anyone else noticed that a stream without Joe Miller just isnt the same
N1, can't even connect to live.WCG -.-
are u fuckin kiddin me I can't see shit
score?
stream http://www.livestream.com/samsung 4-1 navi
so because they playing on stage, you guys not will show us the hltv match?? gotta be a joke...
fu lags stream !!! pls hltv
gl navi
high quality stream without lag:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/124
http://www.own3d.tv/live/124
nice quality but commentator really suck :P
btw the offical stream is a joke - i even cant see the nicknames this really sucks
Post edited 2010-10-03 21:13:46
btw the offical stream is a joke - i even cant see the nicknames this really sucks
Post edited 2010-10-03 21:13:46
Kapio is the commentator :)
hmm there wont any demo from final that sucks, there are no demos form the most important turnaments all only on stream only on YT that is realy bad move and sucks
Go Na'Vi !!!!
who are the shoutcasters? redeye and?
inferno mtw's map?
commentators put ex_interp 0.01,because watching from spectator view with interp 0.1 is just painful
edward amazing
They've(mTw) got less money than an icelandic bank LOL
only 1200 spectators? shame
11-4 navi
mTw 4-11 Na`Vi
zeus sick stratcalling :D gj navi lets rock!
lol why are they called denmark-2? mTw organisation must be pissed
cuz of a deal made by the danish wcg qualifier, the teams have to call themselves denmark 1 & 2
EPIC eco from mTw!
Haha ZeroGravity is drinking to much xD
when it would be vodka he would suck all of it from this bottle :D
starix had no choice but to jump down, how is that a mistake? :O
Yay stream with low quality...
Why cant they just go with both hltv and stream?
Why cant they just go with both hltv and stream?
14-7 navi
MR 25 :D?...MR?
wow zonic nicetry=]]]]]
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
NICE NAVI
de_inferno 16-8 navi
no resistance from mTw... i was hoping for more...
U undstand that mtw were very unlucky with their tacs as ct...3 times navi rushed to a site with nobody covering it.
Good play by Navi though
Good play by Navi though
Whats with the gay music which is being played on the stream ...
very easy 4 na`vi ;)
Na'Vi!!!!! Finish this noobs!
No english lessons in your country?
Guess that the only team who is able to defeat the ukranian giants is not in WCG ;S
no one's able to defeat Navi at this monment.
dunno if u understood but i said that fnatic is the only team to put up a fight and win agaisnt Na'Vi
mtw have a pretty strong tuscane.I think it will be a greate battle on the second map
Well, 2010 is for Navi. That's for sure by now. Wonder which team will dominate 2011
probably fnatic again =D
probably not
2011 year of FNATIC & FX! i think )
use the "reply" button #812
commentator has no clue of whose starix and whose markloff :P
Na'Vi will take this for sure. Great WCG 2010!!! I would like to see a match between fx and mtw to see who deserves 2nd place.
[ofc I ma not saying that mtw is bad]
[ofc I ma not saying that mtw is bad]
starix playing so bad, mTw will win tuscan in overtimes but NaVi will crush them 16 3 on train :)
16-8
stream died?
http://www.livestream.com/samsung
Post edited 2010-10-03 21:52:06
Post edited 2010-10-03 21:52:06
http://www.own3d.tv/live/124
good quality stream
good quality stream
Na'Vi have just sick aimers in there side .
these commentators make me laugh really bad ROFL
I think Tuscan take mTw very close, but on de_Train Na`Vi will be destroy mTw
2 Travels
remember, mTw are bot's & don't cry plz :)
remember, mTw are bot's & don't cry plz :)
FUCK YEAH AVE :D
Omg n00b no kit :<
Post edited 2010-10-03 21:55:52
Omg n00b no kit :<
Post edited 2010-10-03 21:55:52
OMFG AVE wow
ave
FUCKING INSANE AVE OMG
AVE WTFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMFMFMGFMGMFMGMFMGF 3 SINGLES??!
ave 3 hs deagle omg :)
omg, stunning first two rounds...! O.O
LOVE U AVE! :D
AVE !
AVE !!
i cant watch this stream,now ave won it and ave was stuck without moving...
omfg :D ahahhahah
NICEEEEEEEEE
AVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
AVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA ave fucking sick
AVE!
OH GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
WOW 1 deags were amazing!
NAVI LUCKY
ave O_o
ave again
AVEEEEEE!!!!! AMAZING
WHAT THHE FdaD:ADA:DA: dI a
omfg ave! THAT WAS INSANE
AVE WTF
wawwwww 3 head with Deagle
AVE AMAZING!!!!!
LOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOL SKILL ON
NS ave hahahaha
AVE THAT WAS INSANE!!! OMFG
godly 3 kills by ave.. very nice
ave just amazing frag )$
OMG))))
OMG 2 amazing actions in less than 1 minute!
And now 3..
Post edited 2010-10-03 21:57:58
And now 3..
Post edited 2010-10-03 21:57:58
SICK MATCH
Edward <3
EDwarD ??!!
I LOVE THIS FINAL
hahah.. WHAT IS GOING ON?? lol!
I've always loved Navi as a team, but danm i think esenin is a fucking moron!
Why's that? What did he do?
If u are watching the stream its obvious
not agree...just emotions...)
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:00:41
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:00:41
There is a difference between emotions and being a dick towards the other team
yeah I don't even recognize him anymore :(
SICK
:OOOOOOOOOOOOO AVE :OOOOOOOOO
WTF IS HAPPENING :D HAHAAHHAHAH so sick best final ever
Edward and ave OMFG
pistol gods
pistol gods
wow Edward
Who are the guys that are commentating the game? :)
lol hahah amazing 3 round
Fucking hell i just rewinded to watch that again :D
SICK SICK!!!!!
hahahahahhahahhaha
SICK final!
Nope. He waited until the third and the forth just came by his bad luck...
OH MY GOOD , SICK MATCH
holy shit, crazy first 4 rounds...
Na Vi vs mTw at tuscan, best hltv I've ever seen
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:01:30
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:01:30
de_tuscan 5-1 navi
trace no use awp plz :=(
no stopped http://www.livestream.com/samsung
it was not a yawning.. he was doing like tarzan!
no awp map for markeloff this final :/
is it normal to break every 15 s?
only fnatic can beat navi in bo3.. and actually they did twice competition in a row after gux joined:).
makeloff the black number ;o
Na`Vi nicee!!!
GOGOGOGO!!!!
GOGOGOGO!!!!
mTw loose country qual and be in final it's not fair against rest of teams , they play semi against complexity , so they trough to the final , and they loose against Na'Vi i am from poland , i am fan not FX at all , but i think FX could be in final imo:-)
mmm "he managed to clean up his mess" MIND YOUR LANGUAGE???
very nice play from AVE..
Why they use +duck on scroll?!?
they don't. it's forbidden
I know, but why I see sometimes fastly bouncing not like keyboard taping, it's stream bug?
de_tuscan 6-4 navi
LMAOOOOO
TRACE INTO THE FACE !!!!
TRACE INTO THE FACE !!!!
"trace into the face"
"I'm a poet and I didn't know it"
Nice.
"I'm a poet and I didn't know it"
Nice.
"Trace to the face"
"im a poet and i didn't know it"
haha :>
"im a poet and i didn't know it"
haha :>
this fat guy in mtw is zonic?
Yep.
niceeeeeeeeeeee go go mTw !!
Ave is killing it!
lol why is esenin being so annoying wtf
I really dont know.. its annoying to look at.. he should show som respect
"Zonic has rejoined the server" lol
Na'Vi such a cunt team, might aswell be germans, hate by default
Are you referring to esenin's gesture earlier?
+1 they playing on luck only. edward>Na'Vi>mTw
lucky cunts
lucky cunts
esenin dont stop ::D
mtw really don't deserve to be in this final imo.
mTw 6 - 9 Na`Vi
esenin. the weakest player, actor :D
remember fat walle? and heaton a bit xx
q tab enter
q tab enter
Esenin just a fucking kid in this game compared to fx zonic.. he should show a little respect.
ceh9 acting like a baby, imo
this stream is unwatchable for me
this stream sucks!
hltv next time bring some good stream without paying !
why we need to pay to watch a game?
hltv next time bring some good stream without paying !
why we need to pay to watch a game?
http://cyberarena.tv/main_stream.php
HQ STREAM
HQ STREAM
http://www.livestream.com/samsung 11-9 navi
mental age restriction needed for cs. Ceh9 proving it atm.
Edward = MVP
wow ceh9 needs to grow up
lol
ok, esenin that's just not nice..stfu already
Edward played below average in the other games, but I'm glad he's on fire when he needs to!
Edward definitely the mvp of the finals
I think mTw is performing very bad
h1 Melvin, go to hell Melvin
Aleeert, how u´ve been? please now change your flag back to Ukraine
ceh9 sweet frags ;_%^
What ceh9 do?
CEH9 !!
SUNDEEE !
who is the guy that is close to the camera from navi?
ceh9 haircut xD
esenin
my stream is laggin really really bad omfg
SUNDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Amazing sunde
14-14 :D
1:1 :S
14/14
zonic<3333333
NICE MTW! :D
Wow what a comeback..NaVi guys were rushing too much at CT when they had the lead and now 3rd map.
NICE esenin quit time for a little while:)
lol navi 15-14 mtw
freaking epic match
mtw = lucky
lol, you didnt see the first map then :(
no. but 1st - de_inferno 8:16
my point is that first map they were timed all along, they could have gotten a lot more rounds with a little luck :) Even the commentators pointed that out :P
mtw play well... understand... but navi is better... mtw is a nice team..
Yeaaaaa! =)
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeAh
YES MTW!!!!
starix :DD
Q_Q ESENIN U JERK
what an amazing match :D
exactly what I hoped for, 3rd map will be freakin intense.
exactly what I hoped for, 3rd map will be freakin intense.
mTw fTw!:) ..
from 9:14 to to 16:14 7 rounds in a row , just s1ck!
train = Na'vi
in ur face, ceh9, hahaha
gj mTw... nice comeback !!
mTw were losing the whole game and then they came back from nowhere. .wth.. well, NaVi better win on train.. they are clearly better
Both teams are playing really good, match of the year? And this tuscan, map of the year? :D
go mTw! do it plx
Sorry mtw fans, but last map - train.Lol..I mean remember when EG won navi on tuscan like 16-2 or even more.Everyone knows that train is THEIR map and now markeloff will pick up that green gun.I predict 16-5(or 6) for NaVi train.
Nice match
Na`Vi is dumb for not using markeloff with the awp, starix is amazing but markeloff is one of the best in the world..
cmon Na`Vi destroy mTw next map
cmon Na`Vi destroy mTw next map
Hhahahahaahahhaa people were quick to judge Zonic statement hahahahhahahaha mTw amazing comeback yet again!!!!
+ over 9000
Awesome final :D
And awesome dgl HS by ave :D
And awesome dgl HS by ave :D
ave is my hero <3 best in game leader in the world no doubt
OMFG!!! VERY NICE MATCH !! GO GO MTW!!!!! ZONIC AMAZING<3;d But i think na'vi is better in train but GO GO MTW!!!!!
MTW MTW MTW win win win
TRAIN IS MTW'S BEST MAP!!!!!!!!
...unless they start T lol
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:49:05
...unless they start T lol
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:49:05
yeah, mtw=balls of steel, from 10:14 to 10:16 :)
who's better on train guys?
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:49:15
who's better on train guys?
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:49:15
pick up hltv please :D
On ping.ua Ukraine commentator said that the best map of Na`Vi is tuscan not train!
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:49:17
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:49:17
never liked playing style mtw .. slow count only on luck = \
GL Na´Vi, win 3rd map ! You can do that !
I wish mtw wins this they really deserve it na'vi are SOOOO lucky on some rounds and combined with their skill its AMAZING mtw won this tuscan. GO MTW !!!
everyone is underestimating mTw on this map, but they will take it. they have more experience and sunde will out awp markeloff and wont make stupid peeks like markeloff does. trust me. i am calling it.
sunde and ave will topfrag 16>10
sunde and ave will topfrag 16>10
i sense troll...
according to the readmore statistics, navi's best map is train and mTw's worst map is also train.
according to SK gaming, train is mTw's 2nd worst map after d2, and Na'Vi's best map...
So, it's pretty much stacked against mTw now...
So, it's pretty much stacked against mTw now...
If navi start for ct , i think they will win it calmly.
GL both teams !
GL both teams !
#1307
Sorry mtw fans, but last map - train.Lol..I mean remember when EG won navi on tuscan like 16-2 or even more.Everyone knows that train is THEIR map and now markeloff will pick up that green gun.I predict 16-5(or 6) for NaVi train.
+1111111111
nice man)
Sorry mtw fans, but last map - train.Lol..I mean remember when EG won navi on tuscan like 16-2 or even more.Everyone knows that train is THEIR map and now markeloff will pick up that green gun.I predict 16-5(or 6) for NaVi train.
+1111111111
nice man)
you must remember that the Na'Vi kids ran out of luck. they spend it all on inferno. sad,sad!!
If you use the 'Reply' button the user will/would know you replied to him/her ;)
by the looks of it, mTw might become 2 times wcg champion
hahaha zeus fail xd
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:53:10
Post edited 2010-10-03 22:53:10
gj i want to see esenin's retarded face now
what did esenin do ? =D
mtw CT hmm, i think 11:4 for mtw in half.
de_train 4-0 mtw
wish there was hltv on.. this is the time to watch Sunde and markeloff. =_=
sadface
sadface
http://www.livestream.com/samsung watch there
score
markeloff+awp=win...
4-3 mtw
ROFL esenin
n1 markeloff
esenin lox
I think that this final is driving esenin fucking crazy...
Post edited 2010-10-03 23:02:30
Post edited 2010-10-03 23:02:30
esenin are you retarded?
hehe and then people say that delpan is better than markeloff hehe oh please :o
the only time i've seen these 2 face-off on train... markeloff couldn't manage to out-awp delpan even once... Due to which he could barely even afford the awp.
its not markeloff vs Delpan
its mTw vs NaVi.
its mTw vs NaVi.
sense makes none
lol, are you crazy? what are you talking about guy! rofl
Na'Vi's a great team but they're showing me right now why I hate them: they're morons
ceh9 is back on track :D GONAVI!
score?
Na 'Vi is gonna fuck mTw now....just watch out u anti Na 'Vi guys
i am anti-navi, the not original team name.
mTw wins WCG 2010 Los Angeles and beat Na´Vi ;ppppp
esenin WCG 2010 = zet WCG 2006
hahhahaa i was thinking the same thing
and LUq 2006
and LUq 2006
Sometimes I think that if it weren't for the headphones connected to the equipment either of them would have stood up and challenged each other even closer on stage ::)
Did zet act like a moron in 2006?
You have players like that in every sport/esport. Football, CS, you name it.
They are just very emotional and like to express themselves. Eric Cantona, C.Ronaldo, esenin, zet, LUq, Loord and so so
Remember 2 years ago when Zonic said "SEE YOU IN HELL SK" after Sunde's ace? It wasn't shown live but it's the same thing. He wasn't being a dick or what he's just trying to keep the team's morale up.
They are just very emotional and like to express themselves. Eric Cantona, C.Ronaldo, esenin, zet, LUq, Loord and so so
Remember 2 years ago when Zonic said "SEE YOU IN HELL SK" after Sunde's ace? It wasn't shown live but it's the same thing. He wasn't being a dick or what he's just trying to keep the team's morale up.
ya i dont think that compares to him yelling suck my dick after every round won
Did he? o_O
I don't understand Russian so..
If he really did say that, then it's justified to say he's being a dick
I don't understand Russian so..
If he really did say that, then it's justified to say he's being a dick
He didn't.
He did it when they won vital rounds, which would make mTw go eco
He did it when they won vital rounds, which would make mTw go eco
u think it still makes it ok to yell that? especially when its being broadcasted when the target audience is teens and kids for esports?
lol if he wanted to insult someone - mtw or public there, he would yell in english ( it's Senya not Zeus ^_^ he knows english).
P.S. And you poor russian child go and cry somewhere for your danish friends!
P.S. And you poor russian child go and cry somewhere for your danish friends!
Get yourself playing for 25.000$ and tell me the feeling later.
KF3 : Get cancer and die! :P
yes, but zet is moron always! maybe the most hated player in cs
I don't know if it is behaving like a moron but mainly he was trashtalking in order to influence the other team psychologically.
There are obviously also cases where more than trashtalking there is unmannered behaviour, especially using the ingame chat which always make me think if the players are aware that not only the other team is reading them but also the spectators ::)
Post edited 2010-10-04 20:40:46
There are obviously also cases where more than trashtalking there is unmannered behaviour, especially using the ingame chat which always make me think if the players are aware that not only the other team is reading them but also the spectators ::)
Post edited 2010-10-04 20:40:46
score?
Why trace keeps flashing himself..
9-6 navi
NAVI COMEBACK
nice game :D
Score please ?
how did trace play today? Stream doesn't work properly here...
Gooo Na`Vi
what a stressing match
:D SharpeN :D but NAVI gogo great match
if mtw want to win this half and the wcg, Sunde will have to step up big time, and ave will have to show why he is the best IGL in CS
no he isnt cArn igl > all igl`s
ave>caRn ave is more brainy! xD
cArn is great but just imo, ave is a complete igl. He's fragging madly and calls strats at the same time.
Sunde AND trace...
OMG PLS NA'VI win i have to learn to school and to have a shower also :D
its 9-7 now.
its 9-7 now for navi
esenin i thought you're normal
why the hate on esenin,thats how you play on lan.You motivate your team by screaming also yelling at the other team makes them lose focus.
Yea, but there is always a line to cross, and i think esenins way over that line
dude the rayv just keeps getting disconnected i cant watch the stream ! HELP
poor you lol.
great indian internet... i'm in the same boat as you...
i have a download speed of 150 kbps its not the net its something else !
waise toh i am on 17 mbps... still gets stuck every seconds...
yes that why ave is best in game leader in the world
mtw are just amazing at pistolrounds :)
8.9
mtw = lucky
mtw = lucky
mTw FTW!
9-11
bg NaVi won :(
9-12
Post edited 2010-10-03 23:24:45
Post edited 2010-10-03 23:24:45
omg what an ace by zeus..
zeus nice:D
ACE!!! of zeus!
niceee ace zeussss malodcom
this commentator sucks so hard,the one who said "WOOOW"its just an eco ace lol
NICEE ZEUUS!!! ACE
Zeus aceee
gj zeus +}
just do it navi:)1
just do it navi:)1
zus with the ice
pls Post the Resultat Live
9-14
score?
damn these ppl with non original IGN. even the team name.
The English guy doesn't know cs very well at all. A lot of obvious situations where he doesn't know whats going on.
Like going for exit kills instead of saving or getting off the bomb so your teammate can get to a gun before the round ends. He doesn't really understand any of the strategies involved with stuff like that.
The other guy knows what is going on
Post edited 2010-10-03 23:27:29
Like going for exit kills instead of saving or getting off the bomb so your teammate can get to a gun before the round ends. He doesn't really understand any of the strategies involved with stuff like that.
The other guy knows what is going on
Post edited 2010-10-03 23:27:29
Not so weird, cuz the other guy is BSL!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!!! #%Y T¤IKWEJGEN
wats da status
mTw 10 - Na'Vi 14
10.14 LOL
mTw the comeback kings.
GOOOOOO MTW
This has got to be one of the most intense matches in a long time.
Comon mTw :)
NaVi toPs! :x
12-14 -.-
mTw pls god pls !!!!
16 : 11 For Na`vi MATCH Is gg.....I see live.....
In your wet dream for navi.
"Zeus fall from the heaven" lol
amazing game wow this is close
13 14
my heart is pumping :D
this shit is crazY! ;)
this shit is crazY! ;)
me too ...
14-14 OMG
is a joke '? LOL
bb na'vi ;(
zeus looks like some frustrated kind of bear.
mTw wins ;D
WOW! This is unexpected!
yess mTw comon you can Do It :P
2nd match ot the year.
FUCK STARIX RETARDED AWP:@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Can't believe it -.-
They lost de_tuscan because of him & well see for this map...
Post edited 2010-10-03 23:36:34
Can't believe it -.-
They lost de_tuscan because of him & well see for this map...
Post edited 2010-10-03 23:36:34
kids...
I don't know why are you replying on my post, and by your argument (kids) you just show how shallow minded you are discriminating like that...
I just stated my opinion so pls Polish funboy FUCK OFF!
I just stated my opinion so pls Polish funboy FUCK OFF!
starix saved them so many times today... without his famas kills right now they'd lose it
They all had their moments, i agree 4 starix too but i think his awp skills were not required atm.
About 3 times (that i counted) he didn't killed anyone on de_train inner site with awp... -.-
About 3 times (that i counted) he didn't killed anyone on de_train inner site with awp... -.-
nice match
shit DRAW :(
This is by far the match of 2010. Wow. I'm on my feet.
sk vs fx was better
14-15 :@
comon Mtw :)
comon Mtw :)
Best final ?! no ! wcg 2009 final is the best
whos comment this match? i mean 2nd voice ;d
PLS END I WANT TO GO SLEEEP IT'S ALMOST MIDNIGHT
what are you complaining about? it's 3:10 here :P
omg...amazing!! 15-15
OH MY GOD IM GOING TO DIE BY HEART ATTACK
INCRedible comeback!!! gotta love this
OT riariariariariariariaria
overtime 15-15
one word wow
what a fucking nice game !!@@@@
This is the most insane comebacks on train ive seen in a long long time.. and they did it on tuscan too.. mTw<3
I <3 denmark lol
amazing
OMG just give them both champion title they deserves it :)
SIIICK MATCH INDEEED !!! love it :D
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