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SK Gaming vs. WinFakt.fi
IP: Match over
Time:17:00 - 20th of May
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6
Status:
Coverage:fnatic PLAY league 2012
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Map: de_train 16:10
voting finished
GeT_RiGhT
(39.6%)
f0rest
(7.9%)
Delpan
(12.2%)
face
(7.9%)
RobbaN
(2.9%)
voting finished
zabaz
(2.9%)
aslak
(15.1%)
tomsku
(2.9%)
Freon
(6.5%)
VIDI
(2.2%)
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Betting Tendency
SK (1)
Draw (X)
WinFakt.fi (2)

97.87%
0.13%
2%


SK
2012-05-19 17:18:04
++
2012-05-20 02:19:21
100% sk
2012-05-19 17:20:14
SK :)
2012-05-19 17:22:07
SK Gaming
2012-05-19 17:24:53
SK <3
2012-05-19 17:26:37
by: XetoN
#6
Keep Calm Sk is Coming :)
2012-05-19 17:27:56
gL Sk !
2012-05-19 17:28:25
Who is VIDI?
2012-05-19 17:40:11
I first time see this guy in qualification for intel3 and in eestralis vs SK...is not bad player at all but in not in same level such as allu and basic
2012-05-19 19:23:29
Playzone.fi


Do you remember this team?
2012-05-20 10:26:40
he used to play for the finnish squad of playzone with basic, jigetus etc., a decent player if you ask me

Post edited 2012-05-19 19:46:26
2012-05-19 19:46:09
SK gl
2012-05-19 17:46:25
Easy for SK xD
2012-05-19 17:55:29
Winfakt Or eestrails?
2012-05-19 17:59:46
or munkka lol
2012-05-19 19:31:28
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#52
They were added as Winfakt to the database of this competition and changing it would be too much of a hassle.
2012-05-19 21:33:30
edited... :)

Post edited 2012-05-20 11:19:15
2012-05-20 11:17:23
go Freon !
2012-05-19 18:00:22
dat lineup ?
2012-05-19 18:01:43
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#55
ty :)
2012-05-20 13:58:13
WinFakt?
2012-05-19 18:04:29
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#56
#52
2012-05-19 21:37:36
ty
2012-05-19 22:14:56
will they keep on playin under winfakt tag or eestralis?
2012-05-19 18:04:38
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#57
#52
2012-05-19 21:37:59
OMG, too easy 4 SK :/ waste of time
2012-05-19 18:12:41
It wasn't that easy on lan: 16:11 16:12 + with jigetus and nasu who haven't played for a while
2012-05-19 19:10:43
16-11 and 16:12 = easy
2012-05-19 19:16:48
Are you dumb or what?
2012-05-19 19:20:10
lol ? easy where ?
2012-05-19 19:20:23
that's the kind of fan delpan deserves
2012-05-19 19:33:23
lol
2012-05-19 19:56:23
SK easy
2012-05-19 19:03:35
why last time no hltv ip's ? stream with my internet this is suck :/
2012-05-19 19:15:06
SK but never easy..
2012-05-19 19:17:25
SK izY
2012-05-19 19:20:14
go aslak a co.
2012-05-19 19:21:40
go zneel <3
2012-05-19 19:24:17
zneel? WTF !
2012-05-19 20:33:08
sk easy .. but after luppris retirement winfakt stronk
2012-05-19 19:25:04
uhm, check the line-up and earlier link from johnatan E :D
2012-05-20 17:51:59
i think sk will win
gl freon
2012-05-19 19:28:07
WHY STREAM :(((( , no limit :@@@!
2012-05-19 19:29:46
gl munkka or eestralis:) anyone who say it was be too easy for SK is wrong
2012-05-19 19:30:26
by: teco
#35
sk 2 easy
2012-05-19 19:36:31
if map is mirage ... winfark will win
2012-05-19 19:37:16
mirage is probably one of SKs best maps too, 15 wins and 3 losses on it, ofc 2 losses vs winfakt but only 1 player is the same in this lineup
2012-05-19 19:47:29
I don't recall 3 losses, only 1, but even that loss was with trace in the line-up....I don't think SK+delpan have ever lost at mirage and forge
2012-05-20 18:05:45
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=192&teamid=69&.. they lost 23-26 with delpan

Post edited 2012-05-20 18:21:04
2012-05-20 18:18:58
online
2012-05-20 23:05:55
easy
2012-05-19 19:39:47
SK
2012-05-19 19:40:28
easy SK
2012-05-19 19:41:29
70/30
2012-05-19 19:58:52
GO DELPAN !!!!
2012-05-19 20:00:53
oh my got this report winfakt

Post edited 2012-05-19 20:02:35
2012-05-19 20:02:21
Delpan > aslak gg
2012-05-19 20:15:17
sk easy
2012-05-19 20:31:01
Winfakt easy
2012-05-19 20:34:00
Could someone explain why these guys are called WinFakt on this match page? No guesses or speculations; someone who actually knows please!

Post edited 2012-05-19 21:21:16
2012-05-19 21:20:54
WF says big news coming up soon on facebook, i guess they are rebuilding the cs squad..
2012-05-19 21:31:10
But why would they ditch the best finnish team for a second tier one? Just doesn't make sense. Must have been some big conflict between the WinFakt and the old team. Or The organisation just doesn't get CS...
2012-05-19 21:33:59
Lemondogs will go to winfakt.
2012-05-19 21:36:49
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#58
#52
2012-05-19 21:39:00
Thanks
2012-05-19 21:44:58
i asked plenty of times before... didnt get an answer... who is making the odds for the games?
they are just pathetic! if you want to make this any interessting get some odds that represent the probability
2012-05-20 11:55:54
the odds are based on how people bet right?
2012-05-20 13:50:30
no way.

odds should be the probability...
take fnatic vs myR
odds are 2.9 on myR ...therefore myR has to win mor than a third of their games against fnatic to make you a winner... you think thats the truth?
odds on myR sould be like 8 to 15 or so
you can NEVER bet the underdog on hltv. couse it has -expected value.
winner here is who is always betting the lowest odds and doddging some upsets.

Post edited 2012-05-20 14:43:57
2012-05-20 14:39:39
i don't think it's manually done but based on game history, clan ranking, previous bets or something. maybe you should write an email to them to be taken seriously. i just bet everything on a tie at the beginning of every month ^^
2012-05-20 17:43:40
based on gam history? so myR has a less than a 35% probability of winnig vs fnatic?

ok...
i dont know on what they (who?) base their odds.. i can just tell you that they are complete BS. compare them to soccer odds plz and you will see.
f.e.: yesterday chelseas was a 5 to 1 underdog against bayern munich, but they are on they same level ... which fnatic and mxr are not.
2012-05-20 20:05:57
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#177
To complain about the way bets are manage/set up, please, contact Nix0n. Thank you.
2012-05-21 20:10:04
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#85
the team was added in our database as winfakt for fnatic play league and due to the way our system works, it's near impossible to change the name so we're stuck with it saying winfakt for these last 3 matches
2012-05-20 13:41:28
and if you just do the same exchange you did with KerchNet and NaVi? (I don't know, how it works and if it's possible, just a thought)
2012-05-20 17:35:42
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#146
na`vi's results were removed from fnatic play league so it was possible to add kerchnet, whereas eestralis is continuing from winfak't results so it's not possible.
2012-05-20 17:42:08
oh right, didn't take that in consideration
2012-05-20 18:02:50
GL both, but it is 2easy4 SK
2012-05-19 22:54:50
SK easy
2012-05-20 01:05:46
GO GeT_RiGhT
2012-05-20 01:53:15
go go go .sk
2012-05-20 03:20:04
gl eestralis!
2012-05-20 04:09:04
GL eestralis! GL aslak!
2012-05-20 04:16:45
SK GO GO GO <3
2012-05-20 09:21:30
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#69
I'm confused by the fact this is titled a SK gaming vs Winfakt match lol, I thought Lemondogs became Winfakt now? >.<
2012-05-20 10:00:18
#52
2012-05-20 10:25:37
"Winfakt" without motivation ...
gl both

Post edited 2012-05-20 10:15:58
2012-05-20 10:15:08
WinFakt
2012-05-20 10:19:14
Gl both lets see the aslak's new team how many rounds they can take, maybe win :)
2012-05-20 10:23:46
Go Sk !
2012-05-20 11:04:53
easy SK <3 go go
2012-05-20 11:56:33
wf ez
2012-05-20 12:01:36
easy for SK :/
2012-05-20 12:07:32
GO PACANI! SK <3
2012-05-20 12:18:39
by: teco
#82
Odds:

1.05 3.95 2.95

Wtf, who does these?
2012-05-20 13:32:06
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#84
i don't know who does them (i guess tgwri1s) but i don't see any problem with them, if anything, odds for eestralis are too low - but seeing as they stand no chance, their odds do not really matter
2012-05-20 13:40:44
can you tell me aslak rezolution and crosshair size and cl_dyn? : )))
2012-05-20 16:15:45
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#101
i have no idea what he uses, when i played with him he used 640 with small medium and large crosshairs, i think he used dynamic with small but i'm not sure, never paid too much attention to that stuff.
2012-05-20 16:22:46
ty anyway ;) p.s agree with your "improving tourney formats" great idea. will be more interesting...
2012-05-20 16:31:48
SK=WinFakt>>>>>>>>>>>Stream
2012-05-20 14:06:07
?
2012-05-20 15:43:48
he said that sk is better than stream :D
2012-05-20 16:22:35
lol :D
2012-05-20 16:55:23
xD
2012-05-20 17:05:00
why still winfakt?
I tought they are now munkka :|
2012-05-20 15:22:25
#52
2012-05-20 15:30:04
WinFakt!!!!!!
2012-05-20 15:27:06
gl SK
2012-05-20 15:42:45
easy for sk
2012-05-20 15:43:50
Go ROFLPAN!
2012-05-20 16:00:03
gl aslak
sk win
2012-05-20 16:05:38
odds retarded as usual
2012-05-20 16:11:54
gl Sk
2012-05-20 16:35:02
cyberarena stream?
2012-05-20 16:37:52
yes!
2012-05-20 16:42:37
AND POOOOKERFACE
2012-05-20 16:41:44
N1 . Let's see what will happen :P
2012-05-20 16:43:28
hltv>?
2012-05-20 16:46:16
Only fnatic/cyberarena stream.
2012-05-20 16:49:45
16:3 in favor of SK
2012-05-20 16:50:18
hltv plz
2012-05-20 16:51:34
hltv plz
2012-05-20 16:54:12
GO f0rest
2012-05-20 16:59:12
hltvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv ??????
2012-05-20 17:01:23
omg this fcking rahim is so annoying
2012-05-20 17:09:36
composition has changed ((((
2012-05-20 17:10:21
freon beast
2012-05-20 17:18:58
guys do you know aslak's rezolution and crosshair size + dyn???
2012-05-20 17:19:33
800x600
Crosshair: medium, lightblue, non-translucent, dynamiccrosshair 0
~> http://www.sk-gaming.com/member/aslak

Post edited 2012-05-20 17:22:40
2012-05-20 17:22:02
are you sure about that??
2012-05-20 17:23:23
yep !
~> http://www.sk-gaming.com/member/aslak
2012-05-20 17:32:51
ty
2012-05-20 17:35:05
not he play 640x480 small dyn1 look at copenhagen games 2012 on his monitor
2012-05-20 17:45:10
actually it's medium 640, but now he uses 800 x 600 small nondynamic
2012-05-20 17:53:39
update score, please !!!
2012-05-20 17:19:50
can robban stop taking the frags from my madfraggers :d
2012-05-20 17:23:15
Rahim is so annoy xD
2012-05-20 17:23:43
Okey....I seen this before what didn't ask - since when does f0rest play m4a1 without silencer ? :O
2012-05-20 17:24:06
that isnt important sometimes he has silencer sometimes not
2012-05-20 17:26:19
Almost all SK players don't use silencers they have noticed that the recoil is better without silencers, RobbaN is the only guy in SK who is playing with silencer frequently.
2012-05-20 17:33:25
yes, tbh you don't even need to control the recoil of m4a1 without silencer, you will kill someone for sure! =D!
2012-05-20 17:36:48
wtf are you talking about :D for years f0rest has been playing with silenced m4a1 :D
2012-05-20 17:55:57
lol what the fuck are you talking idiot.

it depends on the situation. every mid-skilled player knows recoil is easier to control with silencer.

but in some situations u use silencer anyways.
also the damage the m4 makes is different on different distances with and without silencer.

pls dont talk if you are clearly a noob.
2012-05-21 03:54:05
sk with delpan play 2different is awesome
2012-05-20 17:25:40
face is so weak at the b-site today ;)
2012-05-20 17:28:42
yup, since hes known for being one of the best b side holder on train.
2012-05-20 17:29:57
Amazing aimers, dumb players.
2012-05-20 17:29:09
they just aren't well organised at the moment
2012-05-20 17:35:13
SK 11 (CT) - eestrails 4 (T)
2012-05-20 17:31:41
11:4 sk, wp vidi!
2012-05-20 17:31:53
11-4 nice last round for eestralis
2012-05-20 17:31:57
1 v 2 Delpan nice!!
2012-05-20 17:37:20
this guy delpan is really a beast
2012-05-20 17:37:32
eestralis playing public...
2012-05-20 17:37:44
delpan won the game on that round :(
2012-05-20 17:38:53
Ip HLTV ????
2012-05-20 17:43:11
15:10 not bad
2012-05-20 17:44:11
tie please
2012-05-20 17:44:54
gg 16:10
2012-05-20 17:45:42
zabaz-dA-JuMpeR =D
2012-05-20 17:45:46
16-10 for sk
2012-05-20 17:45:51
gg, quite good effort by eestralis :)
2012-05-20 17:45:54
flying like a motherfucker :DDDDDD
2012-05-20 17:46:16
What happend TO NASU??
2012-05-20 17:46:20
gg. 16:10 for SK
2012-05-20 17:46:48
Impressive play by eestralis I would say anyways gg SK
2012-05-20 17:47:03
gg
2012-05-20 17:47:10
what did zabaz do?
2012-05-20 17:47:18
awesome jumping :D
2012-05-20 17:47:53
who was the man of the match .. and statistics about SK play pls
2012-05-20 17:47:37
gtr had the best stats
2012-05-20 17:48:37
get_right was best
then,maybe delpan and forest
2012-05-20 17:48:46
good play by eestralis, impresed
2012-05-20 17:48:03
nice eestralis,really impressive :)
2012-05-20 17:48:21

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