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Titan have just released a shocking announcement, Richard "shox" Papillon has departed the squad, while Kenny "kennyS" Schrub will take his place in the roster.
Titan have been considered at least a top two team throughout the last year as they have consistently placed inside of the top three at most tournaments they attended.
That was until their last two events, where the team has on the first occasion, EMS One Katowice, failed to qualify for the playoffs following losses to Virtus.pro and HellRaisers.
That would have been understandable, as it seemed like that was only a one-time-thing, especially considering their convincing DreamHack Stockholm Invitational win.
After Titan's Copenhagen Games loss to their countrymen LDLC though, and thus the fifth to eighth finish, things started looking worrisome for the elite French-Belgian team.
That resulted in a lineup change which comes as a shock to the whole community, as we see the team's best player, Richard "shox" Papillon, depart the lineup. Replacing him will be Clan-Mystik's superstar Kenny "kennyS" Schrub, who will revert the changes made nearly a year ago, when Papillon joined VeryGames in his stead.
"Today a page turns: I decided to put an end to my collaboration with Titan. The Gaming house involves a lot of obligations affecting my private life so I expressed the wish not to continue in these conditions." said Richard "shox" Papillon on Titan's website.
"I am thankful to Titan for this experience, thanks to Jérôme, Nathan, Kévin, Edouard and Adil for all the great moments we lived together. There is no doubt they will bounce back in the best possible way, I only wish them the best."
"I'm happy to announce that I have joined Titan's ranks. I became a more complete player thanks to my preceding experiences and I am ready to put down a lot of hours to help my team to reach its objectives. I would like to thank Titan for trusting me as well as Clan-Mystik for this enriching experience." explained the new player, Kenny "kennyS" Schrub.
Titan's lineup is now following:
Kévin "Ex6TenZ" Droolans
Nathan "NBK" Schmitt
Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux
Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom
Kenny "kennyS" Schrub
Titan are now sitting at second place in the ESEA Invite Season 16 Europe with eighteen points from eight matches. Their LAN debut will be SLTV StarSeries IX Finals, which will take place on May 2nd-4th in Kiev CyberSport Arena.
If you tried to offend him by just saying that, well your mission failed asshole.
Titan is very happy to announce his return.
kennyS is their friend irl and shoxie has plans to do something else, she has a gf, so probably it was Titan or gf. i dont really know, but rumors are so..
wtf why do u blame, u dont even know the story, weird people.
shoxie : Today a page turns: I decided to put an end to my collaboration with Titan. The Gaming house involves a lot of obligations affecting my private life so I expressed the wish not to continue in these conditions. I am thankful to Titan for this experience, thanks to Jérôme, Nathan, Kévin, Edouard and Adil for all the great moments we lived together. There is no doubt they will bounce back in the best possible way, I only wish them the best.
then ScreaM's post on facebook: Welcome back to Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub !!
Richard "shox" Papillon decided to leave Titan for some reasons
Always hard to lose a great friend and a great player but i'm very happy to play again with my friend kennyS! #GoTitan!
I wish the best for Richard
Titan didn't kick shoxie.
He left, because he wanted to.
KennyS rejoined, because he's their friend and i think he knows some tactics of Titan and etc.
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she has a gf
i dont mean to 'kiss his ass' but hes a complete player who only falls below forest and gtr in terms of consistency and overall talent.
You may disagree with my choices, but point is it isn't as clear cut as you seem to believe
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Byali , gtr , snax , Flusha.. these 4 are better then Shoxie
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:D lol macie
He is going to join Complexity.
EDIT: I saw now that it was shox own choice, it makes more sense now.
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there is no reasonable argument against that. if you personally have a favourite top player, that doesnt change the facts.
But best player in the world, right now as we speak, I think shox is at least top3 as I said in my last post.
You may be right considering all statistics though. But one thing I do not agree with you is that shox only had a, and I quote: "couple of good lans in fall 2013 and a handful of great online performances". He's had alot more than that. He basically carried his teams before joining VeryGames, both online and on LAN.
Like scream said, his getting back there where he was
Nothing to do but to wait and see the results, really thrilled to see kennyS on the big stage.
fuck him then i guess.
Instead of stating the obvious outcome over and over, get to our level k?thxbye.
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edit : hmm i hope he find a good team
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shox, join nip then.
i would understand this.. but 2 awps and -shox? o_O
Can you read ?
so learn to fucking understand what you read you douchey fucking internet faggot.
i mean, nice to see KennyS back to Titan but why not instead Scream? BUT SHOX?? U KIDDING ME RIGHT?? WORLDS BEST PLAYER????
shox is the beast of the titan... LOL...
Maniac / NBK
That is my opinion :D
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Tl;dr shox -> uzzii by any margin.
IT'S A JOKE???????
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They picked up kennyS for a reason and I believe their knowledge of players and what is missing in their team is far superior to yours or mine for that matter. But hey, maybe you should ask them directly, because as you might have noticed, asking on HLTV doesn't really lead anywhere.
+ Kioshima plz then titan will rock !
I dunno if i could do it personally either. Shoutout to all my homies in the hood.
He quit because of the obligations of their gaming house. They didn't replace shoxie with kennys for performing reasons. They picked up kennys to replace his departure.
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EMS Katowice, rating 1.26
DreamHack Stockholm Invitational, rating 1.32
ESL Pro Series France XI Finals, rating 1.40
MSi Beat it! Finals, rating 1.76
His bad performances have been CPH Games, DreamHack Winter and ESEA Finals. Thats pretty much it. Still his rating was above 1.00 in every single one of them.
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Shox was a keyplayer on titan, and KennyS is overrated as fuck.
I'm sad to see shox leaving, I hope he'll be back on another team at some point.
Te Gaming house involves a lot of obligations affhecting my private life so I expressed the wish not to continue in these conditions." said Richard "shox" Papillon
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he just posted this on fb :(
I think the Shox found a new team cause titan "change" he for KennyS
*The Gaming house involves a lot of obligations affecting my private life so I expressed the wish not to continue in these conditions." said Richard "shox" Papillon
Still gonna cheer for them and gl for Kenny but shortly ... RIP Titan.
and tbh since they have the gaming house thier performance not so good either :)
read: scream wont stop comin into my room and watching me sleep with his hand in his pants...
lol idk... just kinda shocking news
Maybe we will finally see two super strong French teams battle for the number 1 spot.
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Smithz is awp why other awp? and lose best rifler ?
United we stand, divided we fall
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but otherwise unexpected
better for shox ofc. titan is not doing well last months.
I thought Shox had matured and could handle the sacrifices that you have to make in order to achieve great results at the highest level.
Now the only thing we can hope for Titan is that KennyS indeed learned from his past (and so did they).
Good luck to them.
we can only see and wait
In my opinion they should have talked him through and sticked with him, but I guess he didn't gave them much choice in the end. Sad for these guys.
They should have discussed it as a team, and convince Shox to reconsider, but I guess negotiations failed if we're at this point.
As for Shox doing good, lately he was not doing great at LAN, neither at Katowice nor CPH games. Which was part of their lack of success.
Concerning "not trying their best" I think you underestimate what the core of this team is about (NBK Ex6tenz SmithzZz). These guys are hardcore competitors, they don't believe in "not trying their best". To me this move from Shox explains part of their disappointing results, even if it surely doesn't explain everything.
In my opinion, i think scream is better than smith, maybe he perform badly, but he always appear in the right time
Maybe if titan can negotiate , and maybe titan and cm wanna swap player, i pretty think that smithzz and kenny should switch place
( sorry if my english is bad :( )
I won't try to compare SmithzZz and Scream, they have completely different roles and styles.
"Maybe if titan can negotiate , and maybe titan and cm wanna swap player, i pretty think that smithzz and kenny should switch place"
This won't happen. Shox left because there was no other solution for the team, since they aim at the highest level and they count on players who can put aside some of their personal life to achieve their goal, which Shox wasn't prepared to do.
SmithzZz obviously doesn't have these issues, so there's no way he'll leave.
and why kennys omg titanfail 2014
Good luck shox, and good bye titan, you guys wont be able to stand in top 10 now. 2 awper in 1 team, so you guys will need 4-5 rounds to full buy, well done.
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Now Titan can be #1 contender again and I'm sure KennyS learn more lesson about his departure last 2013.
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$10 on because of girlfriend
Its always women :))
so anyone know where will shox go? LDLC?
xpecial benched, hai in hospital, what next?
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Sounds like a plan.
anyway, i've never liked these VG guys except shox which was the most mature guy in their lineup.
kenny has ever been an huge awper but he wont carry as much as shox, titan will fall in some months @ split/kick inc. these guys started to think they were the best ever made and they ended on developing an huge ego on this.
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Probably shox to ldlc cause in Katowice shox was handing out with ldlc instead of titan.
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I hope we will still see shox
more freedom to kennyS and gg
"I'm not leaving CS! Only Titan"
It's like a domino effect when you look at those comments..
we have as much right as u have to say anything out here .
and its just my opinion so just put your mommas nipples in your mouth and go to sleep you fucking 3rd world keyboard warrior
on a serious note i really hate when someone points me out being an indian cuz i really dont understand whats the problem being an indian . we are born on the same planet as u guys are yes we are of different race but still we are humans having 2 legs 2 hand and a heart :)
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Players around Kevin always know what the are doing and always will do what is better for everyone. It is Shoxs decision.
To be fair Shox is a great player but he never put as much work into the game as his teammates. He was never a guy which would suit gaming as a job and practice as something he has do to constantly. It is enough to look at his gaming hours. He just simply dont wanna put as much time into it. And its his decision who can blame him... It is sad cos he is great player.
KennyS isnt that much surprising. Its same story as Shox. He was also once removed from team. But they will always want to go back to the team which will have Kevin cos they will be always best in France. So if anyone could be butthurt about it (doubt that he is) they will gladly put it away just to play with em again. And KennyS is more mature and proffessional player than he was a year ago.
GL to both parties.
Overall ha played a lot less csgo than his teammates.
That isnt so bad since he joined a lot later to the team. But if you always look at his hours past 2 weeks when they were practicing before event. He always had significantly less hours than his teammates. I dont blame him. Not everyone wants to put 100h in 2weeks into playing. He doesnt enjoy it and it is hard to be forced into it. So it is smart decision from him. He would only suffer and his teammates also.
In fact making tactics during hours is not the solution (just have a look on Titan result since january...)
The real problem of Titan is the IGL ... best on CSS but ... we are on CSGO now...
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Ye that is what retards like you keep telling to yourself. When infact his teammates would never go with anyone else.
But ye when NiceCrazy says that it must mean a lot more than them.
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why you dont think, why you dont use that brain of yours, why you go to conclusion so fast maybe its not just shox who is underperforing on Titan why throw all the blame on him, wen the top20 ranking was going one every one was saying shox-i top3, and now shox-i top1 online.
Shoxi was the one who made Titan beat NiP more than 1 time in a row, still i dont think that your brain will get this( and yes my writing skills arent that sharp but you can understand), stop trolling... the comments aret just for trolls you can also leave a decent comment idiots(sry some of you aint but 80% are...).
If shox would join LDLC they would be so much better than titan imo.
1) reason he left?
2) retired or new team
3) who will replace kennyS at CM
4) Now 2 AWP? (smithz,kennys)
He prefer a chill and swag team with not many obligations undestandeable but not if you are playng in a team like Titan...
-smithzz +Happy = Titan top 3 at least
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pls read this or the article before posting -____________-
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From ~top5 to ~top10
But now LDLC.com can replace their noob Uzzziii with shox, and become top1 of France and ~top4 of EU
<3 EASILY top1 in France
What about Titan? Hm... R.I.P. Titan. They lost their BEST player, so good bye all the hopes for dominating a scene again.
Stop crying and look at it from another point!
If it was his decision it's done.
Now KennyS got his chance once again.
So goodluck Kenny. You were lastly one man army and now you'll have much easier. :)
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It is not a problem playing without main awper.
and nobody in CM can play with AWP
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Anyway it is a good choice. No matter that retards says shox>kenny or otherwise.
It is alwys a better choice to play with someone who wants to play rather than someone who doesnt. Motivation is everything.
Pussy > Gaming
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awkward lvl over9999
best team !!! -.-
Him leaving won't make or break the team.
To be honest they were not consistent enough to be considered top1 team.
And to be honest their play style is slow and actually very boring to watch.
There isn't anything fun from them its like CS from 2004 ....
Any way good luck to both parties.
They were raping teams in 4 months. No team will never do like NiP by dominating one year.
Titan from #3 to #10 easily. RiP
My french dreamteam <3
But SmithZz & kennyS < shox as the riflers
So Titan lost much of their power, unfortunately my beloved team is almost destroyed, they won't win NiP & VP without shox...
Good bye, my dear ex-VeryGames, you're becoming more and more shitty as a team...
I hope shox will join LDLC.com instead of Uzzziii.
Shox, ty for your great play in Titan, you're the greatest French player and top3 of the world. Best of luck to you <3
gl hf both parties!
shox pls csgo >>>> real life :DDDDDDDDDD
Gl kennys and titan :/
Hopefully shox goes to LDLC now. Clan Mystik would be kind of a waste of his talents atm.
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Probably the 3 best riflers after shox, in fact I think Smithzz is a decent awper, but there's 2 that are far better than him in kennyS and KQLY, Titan should've taken this opportunity to remove Smithzz as well.
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Happy play with VG in 2009 I am no sure with he leave/kick
I cant see kioshima on titan
This is what NiP is doing with Xizt and I don't see why this should be an issue to do with Titan?
I think shox wanted to leave because he was demotivated from losing and wanted a change. just my opinion, shox will pick up a new team soon imo.
Can't say I was surprised by this change itself though I am surprised about *when* it happened. shox did underperform heavily at CPH (vs. his "best CS:GO player" level from before), but didn't expect VG would want to switch him out so soon.
Considering he left by his own choice, I'm curious whether it was influenced by team chemistry (again) at all, aside from his personal commitments.
I was always against kennyS being removed back in 2013 but seeing Happy/Maniac ditch him so many times makes me think that maybe he's still not very fun to play with, i.e. whiny and/or not a team player.
If anything, NBK and ScreaM will have to step up again, since both are so inconsistent and terrible compared to their past performance peaks. And kenny will have to be about to AWP consistently well on LAN, which I don't recall seeing since...Raidcall EMS One with VG?
As others have pointed out, I'm guessing shox will join some sub-top French team and then end up coming back to Titan again. lol.
I could see LDLC -Uzzziii +shox becoming really strong, don't think CM can do much aside from kioshima.
A change was needed, but no one would ever expect that it would be their biggest star lol
Apex = NBK
Shox > ScreaM
KQLY =< KennyS
Happy > Ex6tenz (IGL+fragger overall)
Maniac > Smithzz (since smithzz will be playing more rifles now)
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He is obviously a hard player to get along with and that can put any team in a slump.. I expect them to improve as a team from this believe it or not.
Only lingering questions is, what role smithzz will play, but, they are a professional team, I'm sure they have figured this out already.
I do however, hope to see shox in the near future. he IS amazing, just needs the same character around him
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Well, good luck Titan, shox and kennyS.
I think on paper they are much better now, they lacked a powerful awper, now they got one.
top100 inc then.
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I think Titan will disband this year after another couple of huge fails.
Would be sick if they'd make that lineup )
I think for now top5 (EU) is:
If shox joins LDLC (-Uzzziii), then LDLC will become top3-4. Titan now is top8-10.
4. New Titan
if titan make good results then there top 2
just like before the cph games
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Rifles: shox >>> SmithZz > kennyS
Rifles in Titan overall: shox > ScreaM > NBK > SmithZz > Ex6TenZ
So, Titan lost their best rifler and picked up another AWPer. Now they have kennyS > SmithZz with AWP and ScreaM > NBK > SmithZz > kennyS >= Ex6TenZ with rifles.
Shox was their key for being top3-4 of the world and being able to win against NiP, fnatic, VP, dignitas. Now they're pure shit.
NiP, dignitas, VP, LDLC, even fnatic and may be LGB > new Titan.
I think u just hate kennyS for some reason, cuz he is a sick rifler too. At his peak, he could easily play on par with NBK\ScreaM with rifles.
If ScreaM and NBK suddenly step up, Titan ofc can be even better than they were with shox, but I highly doubt it will ever happen.
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So y shox?
Titan have been under performing at tournaments and the bond doesn't seem to be there any more so it is maybe the best idea to bring back KennyS and for shoxie to do his own thing. Shoxie will be a great addition to any team and KennyS needs a top team.
With KennyS coming back even stronger and seemingly more mature, I think they should be able to grow again.
I guess only time will tell although I would have loved to see KennyS and Shoxie in a team together, they are two of my favourite players to watch.
gl shox and Titan
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trust me, it's the real reason xD
HE SHOULD KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HERE DOESNT READ, AND ONLY READS THE TITLE, JESUS FCKING CRIST, ALOT OF MISSGUIDED HATRED.
even if a absolute enormous team like titan got a broken teamspirit through internal problems you see them fall in bad results as you saw.
so maybe it's just the right decission for shox and titan together.
shox could easily play for LDLC for example which are able to beat a spiritual broken titan as you saw and they are also able to beat titan under other conditions.
I will enjoy Titan without Shoxie surely also, but Shoxie is a master at work and only deserves the best possible team with his enormous reached skill.
now you also got the explanation why shox was low in the last matches. no fighter in the world can fight for real if his spirit is broken and not focused on point cause it's human and we are controlled by our emotions exaclty as our highest god is. better believe that.
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"Titan change shox for kennyS"
Shox left because he felt that he couldnt have a privatelife in the gaminghouse, it was too much, so he left. And some idiot on HLTV.org decides: "Well, ill say Titan change shox for kennyS" 'implying that Titan (the organization) kicked shox for kennyS'
Which is NOT THE CASE.
It should've been more like:
"shox leaves Titan, kennyS rejoins"
"shox steps down, kennyS back in!"
or a quote from shox as the title.
like: "Shox: 'I decided to end to my collaboration with Titan' ; KennyS back in"
NOT: "Titan change shox for kennyS"
I dont write titles, but the person that did the news piece didnt even read it himself, which seems ODD SINCE HE WROTE IT.
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Kenny not really as good as the other titan squad... They are definitely top aimers and Kenny, in my opinion, nothing but a very good sniper which at times isn't even as good as shox with an awp. I'm very curious to see what happens with shox next.
btw i think titan wil fail on starladder lanfinals now, they need time to get used to a "new" player anyway