Counter-Strike 1.6 updated again
Time: 2013-02-20 20:08
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6

Valve has rolled out another update for Counter-Strike 1.6, fixing some of the issues brought up in their most recent updates since the conversion to Linux.

Most notable this update now includes Raw Input, which will bypass your operating system's mouse settings and therefore can be used to get rid of Windows's mouse acceleration.

Valve has also capped fps at 100 once again (although with a CVAR to go above it), added a new functionality for fastswitch and a lower graphics setting in the Options dialog.

Full list of new features that have been added in the newest update is below:

• Returned mouse input to using windows messages rather than raw input by default, this should correct the sensitivity change people have seen
• Added a "Raw Input" checkbox in the Mouse tab of the Options dialog. This button toggles the "m_rawinput" cvar. If selected raw input API's will be used to get mouse input, usually with lower latency but missing the post processing from your OS's Window manager
• Added a "Low video quality" option in the Video tab of the Options dialog. Use this check box if you have an older GPU and want to trade off visual quality for FPS
• Re-enabled a fps cap of 100. You can override this behavior if you want to run faster by setting fps_override to "1" but some mods may not behave properly
• Added support for binding the multiply key on the numeric keypad, the engine bind name for this new key is "kp_mul"
• Added support for binding Windows key, key name "win". Be careful binding this key, your OS may also act on presses from it
• Made keypad enter key activate an item when pressed in the server browser
• Made the "timerefresh" command require sv_cheats be set for its use. This command is for developer profiling and shouldn't be generally used
• Extended hud_fastswitch options. 0 means no fast switch, 1 means switch on both number keys and mouse wheel, 2 means on do fast switch when using number keys
• Added listing of games from the cstrike_downloads folder in the New Game dialog
• Added "speak_enabled" cvar, if set to 0 then the "spk" and "speak" commands are disabled
• Added "edicts" option to liblist.gam file, for use in mods that want more than 900 entities in their maps
• Increased supported entity count in Counter-Strike 1.6 to 1800
• Improved HTTP download performance
• Improved movement when running at more than 100fps
• Removed now unused sv_voicecodec and sv_voicequality cvars
• Renamed gl_ztrick cvar to gl_ztrick_old, usage of this cvar is deprecated and caused rendering issues

Valve has also fixed a wide variety of glitches, most notably viewdemo works once again, left shift presses are now detected correctly and minmodels work again. Full list is below:

• Fixed cl_minmodels not applying after being on a server for a while
• Fixed left shift key presses not detecting properly
• Fixed viewdemo command causing a crash
• Fixed load dialog in viewdemo command not actually loading the demo
• Fixed Player List dialog not allowing you to mute a player
• Fixed crash on restart if you had the serverbrowser active
• Fixed mouse cursor sometimes not appearing when using the spectator UI
• Fixed double entries in the sprays list pulldown under options
• Fixed crash if Windows OS level DEP setting was turned on for all programs and you
ran in software mode
• Fixed spectator UI being truncated when running in higher resolutions
• Fixed downloading of content from servers via HTTP, both if you got a 404 error on one of the links or the file was in the base download folder
• Fixed some commands writing config files to a bad path
• Fixed corruption of text input when hitting backspace while composing a message
• Fixed mouse clicks sometimes being lost

You can see all the updates on Steam's Counter-Strike 1.6 announcements page, where the developers have been posting notes for both Beta and full updates as they become available.

a shame every one switched to CSGO
2013-02-20 20:08:54
You would play it aswell if u had a better hardware ...
2013-02-20 20:11:17
He does play it
2013-02-20 20:12:07
people dont get irony on the internet , sad TT
2013-02-20 20:13:12
i have 150fps,still is a worse game than 1.6,cry me a river :D
2013-02-20 20:14:43
i've got 200 fps and cs:go is so shit game ;c
2013-02-20 22:10:53
+1
2013-02-20 22:23:47
it's not a reason
2013-02-20 20:15:34
i have good hardware,and i try go,but game is suck biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig :)
2013-02-20 20:50:43
and here I thought german ppl were smart... u just embarrased ur entire country
2013-02-21 02:39:54
Atleast in India...half of people who played 1.6 ...are playing dota2...If they can play Dota2..why cant they play CS:GO..
Get a better hardware seems a lame comment :\
2013-02-21 03:00:04
Who knows if 1.6:ish (concept) comes back on the finest competitive eSport stage.

But right now its CS: GO wich is in the spotlight, its something renewing and refreshing (for most ppls), the game is getting better and better. Tournaments are popping up stacked with heavy money like CS glorydays.

Imo the best thing for CS happened right here, its unified like it never was since CS: S saw the first daylight.
CS: GO pretty much saved Counter-Strike as a competitive eSport game, for now, and future looks rather bright i'd say, but ofc none can tell 100% what future holds.

eSport is in big need of a competitive teamsbased first person shooter and Counter-Strike shall always be the one and only in that specific cathegory. Everybody with slightest eSports-intrest/knowledge is fully aware about this...

Post edited 2013-02-20 20:36:12
2013-02-20 20:31:57
good analyze doc
2013-02-20 20:34:41
;Dd
2013-02-20 20:58:35
But CS:GO isn't that game. For crying out loud, even Battlefield 3 have a better bullet system than CS:GO, hell even team fortress 2 have a better one. YOU DONT SEE YOUR BULLETS MUCH WHEN SPRAYING OR TAPPING A LOT. This is one of the reasons I still see CS:GO as a LOSS when it comes to FPS. Hell even on Quake you can see your bullets a lot better.
2013-02-20 22:35:09
you can see your bullet spray in csgo..
r_drawtracers_firstperson 1

someone confirm that right?
2013-02-20 22:43:00
hmm when 1.6 will get more sponsors (offline partys etc.) then more players will come back from cs:go ;p but now it's hard ;c
2013-02-20 22:41:05
as much as I would like it to, it will not happen
2013-02-21 01:42:03
hahah omg
2013-02-21 01:09:39
who says?
2013-02-20 20:58:32
Just because the 1.6 was a legend doesn't mean that we should play it for the rest of our life man geat up the Game must to be developed, if you love cs know that's playing the CS:GO that's mean that you really do ! ;)

Post edited 2013-02-20 21:44:48
2013-02-20 21:44:03
well said
2013-02-22 19:08:40
Tnx man ;)
2013-02-22 21:30:31
Everyone? lol thats why there are more players playing 1.6 than GO, without counting non steamers.

change ur nickname to "Picture me trollin"
2013-02-20 22:52:05
Yeah just like your NikName for exampel??
2013-02-20 23:51:34
okej jur rajt ser exampel nace.

lol xD
2013-02-21 14:52:46
wow! nice words
2013-02-21 23:44:40
every one ? u mean 1 % out of 100 ?
2013-02-20 23:15:23
Not many switched to GO tbh, and the numbers are proving it. It's a fail game, just like source was when it was announced. 1.6 player are either older guys who stopped playing or switched to other games like dota.
2013-02-21 12:53:05
viewdemo not working!can anyone confirm this?
2013-02-20 20:10:30
i think it's fixed if you update it.
2013-02-20 20:12:44
i updated it :/ i will reinstall cs then
2013-02-20 20:21:07
try the beta.
2013-02-20 20:22:04
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#18
works fine
2013-02-20 20:13:53
i think protocol changed,when i try to view other demos cs crashes :/ if i record and then use viewdemo it works :X
2013-02-20 22:12:10
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#165
negative, as i already said hours ago, it works fine. i played an old demo (from 2009 to be exact) and there were no issues.

Post edited 2013-02-20 22:23:17
2013-02-20 22:22:00
hmm,maybe its these demos' specific problems then!
2013-02-20 22:23:58
i can play pov demos, but not hltv demos with viewdemo
2013-02-21 12:15:38
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#265
you are correct sir, viewdemo doesn't seem to work with hltv demos. hopefully it gets fixed in the next update
2013-02-21 15:43:14
Still viewdemo is causing my cs to crash. What is the problem?
2013-02-22 01:41:09
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#287
not sure, that would be a question for valve to answer. for me viewdemo works perfectly fine in pov demos, just not with hltv.
2013-02-22 02:01:54
I too am experiencing this issue - viewdemo works exclusively for POVs and not for HLTV demos.
2013-02-22 02:23:17
Ok, thanks anyway!
2013-02-22 23:48:35
+1
2013-02-20 20:14:04
are they making fun of the community or why are they bringing these updates NOW?
2013-02-20 20:10:56
in January this year, the players asked Valve for the 1.6 update
2013-02-20 20:49:49
Update, not Downdate, that's the keyword...
2013-02-20 21:05:44
+1
2013-02-20 21:13:54
hahahaa~
2013-02-21 00:47:28
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#266
they are changing some things because they ported the game over the linux, that's all
2013-02-21 15:43:32
What about spraying ? I can't even spray after these updates !!
Do you think they'll fix everything a few days later ? :o
2013-02-22 18:38:21
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#305
haven't noticed any issues since using the common known fixes myself
2013-02-22 18:54:55
lol. Just lol.
2013-02-20 20:11:06
:D
2013-02-20 20:11:07
good but before update was much better
2013-02-20 20:11:18
they didnt...just more cash into cs go that is it and 1.6 pros move to cs go
2013-02-20 20:11:36
no need to update a dead game to be honest
2013-02-20 20:11:37
http://store.steampowered.com/stats

2x more alive than your beloved GO on a bad day.

Post edited 2013-02-20 20:13:33
2013-02-20 20:13:22
without any kind of competition its kinda dead, sry
2013-02-20 20:14:39
lal.. 1.6 going slowly but sure downwars, no competition anyway..only pubnoobs
2013-02-20 20:15:32
indeed.
2013-02-20 20:18:37
you sure play with every professional player on cs:go, ou pas.
2013-02-20 20:34:10
haha
2013-02-20 21:31:00
I surely do have more skill than you, believe me
2013-02-21 15:05:10
keep dreaming, you still play in pub noobs as most of the people on cs:go, the esport scene is very small on every game, and you're not part of it.

Post edited 2013-02-21 17:32:15
2013-02-21 17:32:03
wtf are u talking about? I play clanwars with my friends all the time, never play pub only dm. Stop talking like you know me noliver. played 4years 1.6..time to move on, accept it.
2013-02-21 19:56:20
"time to move on, accept it" Did I even talked about 1.6 ?Clanwars ?HAHAHAHAH and you talk about competition ?Dude you can do the same on css or even 1.6 and versus players as good as you, the thing is that your argument has no logic, you switch to cs:go because there is an esportscene ?What is your point ?
2013-02-21 20:29:02
#52 Have fun with your boyfriend anyway
2013-02-20 20:44:11
every beginer must play on pub servers
it`s like u must learn to walk than run
2013-02-21 01:12:03
It's not dead. ^.^
2013-02-20 20:16:35
Its deadened
2013-02-20 20:18:47
ye cs:go must be pretty alive in ur country
2013-02-20 20:21:56
It is everywhere
2013-02-20 20:25:05
sure,so alive it has 30k players
2013-02-20 20:44:16
when is the next major tournament in 1.6? i forgot
2013-02-20 21:19:47
Oh wait.
2013-02-20 21:29:23
major = 10k spec ? hahaha
2013-02-20 21:31:38
they even started to call 8k tournaments "major".
well, for someone coming from CSS this may be pretty huge :D
2013-02-20 21:37:40
Agree hahaha
2013-02-20 21:39:03
Why do you actually care so much about CS:GO eventhough you don't like it? (And yes you care because every time CS:GO is being put in the discussion you must give your 2 cents)
2013-02-20 21:47:57
?
I just say it has very low viewer, that's all, i dont hate csgo, atm its bad, but in 1or2 year it will be a good game because valve will uptade it !
2013-02-20 22:53:34
40.000 $ in dubai
2013-02-20 21:48:07
didnt know that viewer could be converted in dollar
2013-02-20 22:54:16
better than nothing my friend, better than nothing.
2013-02-20 21:57:24
"lol"
2013-02-20 22:54:45
I'm from 1.6 =) but im not acting like total retards like the rest of you

"oh mai gad 1.6 never die <3 i hate csgo, so why not comment every csgo news so people know"
2013-02-20 22:28:38
it's actually a CS 1.6 news and it weren't the 1.6 fanboys who started to talk about CS:GO

Post edited 2013-02-20 22:39:51
2013-02-20 22:39:37
You're absolutely right. But it's making me sick to see you guys trying to prove that 1.6 is the better game, when theres no such thing. You really act like kids lol
2013-02-20 22:43:35
And I think it's hilarious to see people trash-talking CS 1.6 just because they switched to another game (after they saw the pros doing it). Especially people who worshiped CS 1.6 before.

Post edited 2013-02-20 22:48:49
2013-02-20 22:47:41
I like 1.6 more than csgo, but i gave go a chance, because 1.6 is dead(yes it is). All this "csgo is shit" is getting old. Pretty ignorant to think that if you dont like it, only noobs/sources/whatever do. It's pathetic. If you dont like the game, dont play it and stfu lol.

Post edited 2013-02-20 23:29:47
2013-02-20 23:29:09
Did I say anything about CS:GO being bad?
I was just pointing out that some of the guys who comment an 1.6 news with "useless update! 1.6 is dead!" where the same people who called CS 1.6 dead in 2011/12 even though it had twice the tournament then GO has now.
2013-02-20 23:36:21
by: bubber - HLTV.org
#217
this
2013-02-21 00:27:31
Right lol. Thanks god there are mature 1.6ers out there
2013-02-20 23:19:39
by: bubber - HLTV.org
#218
So being mature is to admit 1.6 is a worse game :DDD?

I'd rather play Mw3 than csgo
sry sry for insultes
2013-02-21 00:29:30
"But it's making me sick to see you guys trying to prove that 1.6 is the better game, when theres no such thing. You really act like kids lol"
2013-02-21 13:02:34
by: bubber - HLTV.org
#256
Different versions of cs-communities will never live together in peace, nevermind what happens. End of story.
2013-02-21 13:32:52
well we had tournaments for the past 10 years so until cs:go accomplishes that you should stfu
2013-02-20 22:01:55
game has been out for less than a year, calm your horses lmao
2013-02-20 22:15:49
im calmed down,im not replying to you
2013-02-20 22:20:25
but you are shitting yourself in front of everyone
2013-02-21 02:11:54
Wow, good one :D
2013-02-20 22:36:07
I think major includes good teams. but thats just me :)
2013-02-20 22:35:41
this is the best we have left
2013-02-20 22:43:03
i know :)
2013-02-20 22:45:02
but still 2x more alive
2013-02-20 20:32:45
without any kind of competition its kinda dead, sry
2013-02-20 20:36:59
still 2x more alive
2013-02-20 23:06:53
the competitive aspect concerns 1% of the players so who cares anyway.
2013-02-20 20:37:42
they updated because of the linux users..
2013-02-20 20:21:37
that was a mask for the real reason...
2013-02-21 00:49:40
LOOOL
2013-02-21 01:14:30
And that's why you're a retard..
2013-02-20 20:36:33
Be more specific diehard.
2013-02-20 21:24:10
why don't you just leave the 1.6 section? and use the filter.
2013-02-20 21:53:04
You know that you can filter the news and ignore all 1.6 related news. Now get out.

Post edited 2013-02-20 23:25:10
2013-02-20 23:24:53
raw input is great.

Post edited 2013-02-20 20:13:44
2013-02-20 20:11:43
cs 1.6 > cs:go
2013-02-20 20:13:07
nah, move with ur time noob
2013-02-20 20:14:57
not playing any games now, thanks :)
2013-02-22 03:54:48
Y U RUIN THE GAME VALVE ?!?! THE GAME WAS FUCKING AWESOME B4 YOUR SHITTY UPDATES.
2013-02-20 20:15:03
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#41
apart from removing the "-freq" launch options command the updates have actually been good, cs 1.6 is better now than it was two weeks ago thanks to raw input (and i assume higher rate)
2013-02-20 20:23:20
yes maybe i dont play that much i am actually some kind of wannabe moivemaker and the thing that is annoying me very much is the view demo bug
2013-02-20 20:29:26
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#74
well viewdemo works now, so i don't know what your issue is... it was broken only for a couple of days
2013-02-20 20:46:32
yeah now is fine :P my fault

Post edited 2013-02-20 20:52:51
2013-02-20 20:52:38
Tomi have you any info about -freq ?
2013-02-20 20:32:07
Check this post from alfred (he's kind of responsible for all the updates): https://github.com/ValveSoftware/halflife/issues/3..
Unfortunately there won't be any -freq command again. :-/
That's the only problem with the updates for me.
2013-02-20 20:43:49
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#76
-freq no longer exists, but if you use the same refresh rate on your desktop as in-game you will be fine. if not, download a program like refreshlock to force the refresh rate you want on whatever resolution
2013-02-20 20:48:29
do we get more updates in the near future?:>
2013-02-20 20:57:51
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#94
i have no association with valve so i can't know for a fact but they said on the announcement page that they "are still working on adding new functionality to Counter-Strike 1.6, look forward to new mouse input options in future beta updates" which suggests yes, we will.
2013-02-20 21:08:49
alright, thanks for the answers :>
2013-02-20 21:22:11
thank you for the response
2013-02-20 21:23:53
i heard that "-refresh" does the same effect, is it true?
2013-02-20 21:24:33
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#117
it might have in the past (although i believe -refresh was just in cs:source or cs:go) but it definitely doesn't anymore
2013-02-20 21:25:54
ty. What people should do now? Use refesh lock or what?
2013-02-20 21:29:01
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#133
if you can have the same refresh rate in windows, afaik cs will use it automatically (it's what valve said and how it seems to function for me). otherwise use a program like refreshlock.
2013-02-20 21:47:41
Still sucks.. they bring on a new update and they're still not able to fix that keyboard problem for "ù" and "µ" which activates the console now and are impossible to bind..
2013-02-20 21:40:41
true :@ bored to this bug
2013-02-20 23:46:30
lurp, did you find a proper calculation to find out how to convert old sens to raw input one?
like I was using 6/11 2.1 500dpi 600x480 and I wanted to use rawinput but I couldn't make it identical to the old sens..
what's your old to new sens config?
2013-02-22 17:20:48
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#299
i use 6/11 in windows and always used rinput before so my sens stays exactly the same
2013-02-22 17:27:22
oh yeah right....
do you find ingame rinput & rinput software identical?
2013-02-22 17:29:17
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#301
yes, it's the same exact thing
2013-02-22 17:46:21
what about -freq?
2013-02-20 20:16:44
still doesn't work, and will never work again I guess...
2013-02-21 00:57:45
<3 1.6
2013-02-20 20:16:50
Very nice news, hope for more in the future :D
2013-02-20 20:19:18
the community would have gone nuts over this news
if it came 2years earlier
2013-02-20 20:19:25
sensivity problems fixed!
2013-02-20 20:22:07
n1!!! now i can watch demos in complexity demo player :D
2013-02-20 20:22:14
Good tactic VALVE:
- destroy 1.6
- buy GO
2013-02-20 20:22:51
"Fanboys" will never switch bro.
2013-02-20 20:30:47
Watch Out guys, we have a Sherlock Holmes here.
2013-02-20 23:14:58
gj, now everything works fine, but what the hell is 100.5 fps? :)
2013-02-20 20:28:24
I'm glad they still care about our beloved 1.6.
By the way, check Valve's GitHub for more 1.6 Issues (https://github.com/ValveSoftware/halflife/issues) being fixed. :)
2013-02-20 20:28:51
Not really
2013-02-20 20:51:49
cs 1.6 best ever go go go !!!
2013-02-20 20:30:26
so now you cant use timerefresh if sv_cheats is not 1 ?
2013-02-20 20:30:53
we want old 1.6 back, not fuckin updates! -.-
2013-02-20 20:34:44
Works fine now.
2013-02-20 20:35:18
cs is not updating for me atm
2013-02-20 20:37:27
Everything works fine now.
2013-02-20 20:37:53
lol while i was having low comp they didnt update cs when i buyed new comp they put the low video quality for low video cards lol :@
2013-02-20 20:38:11
Fixed load dialog in viewdemo command not actually loading the demo <- finally
2013-02-20 20:39:12
cl_minmodels 1 works but cl_min_t/ct don't :)
all terrors are leet, cts gign
2013-02-20 20:40:32
valve trolling us :D
2013-02-20 20:40:51
THANK GOD.

It is such a piece of shit.

Can you believe it? I opened the game, and when I joined a server is brought some fucking browser window up I couldn't exit, THEN IT SHUT OFF MY USB PORTS AND I HAD TO SHUT MY COMPUTER OFF. How does Counter Strike Manage to do that....?
2013-02-20 20:41:20
valve is just joking man ;d

dont know what they try to do -.-
2013-02-20 20:43:28
finally we have it back
2013-02-20 20:42:59
GG

Post edited 2013-02-20 20:44:27
2013-02-20 20:43:04
should i reinstall cs?
2013-02-20 20:43:39
so bored to have to go through my settings all over again to play a game that's more than 10 years old...
2013-02-20 20:46:18
by: 1lgt
#79
fuck mouse sux
2013-02-20 20:51:03
so -noforce are back, fps_max 101 and rate 100000?
2013-02-20 20:51:55
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#86
-noforce commands don't exist anymore afaik, you can just use m_rawinput 1 to achieve the same effect.

fps_max 99.5 forces 100.0 fps; 101 will give you 100.5 fps in-game which will slow your movement down.

rate is 100k, but most servers won't probably support it, at least for a while.
2013-02-20 20:57:51
can u write what u know have in ur userconfig and launch options?
and btw did u ever notice the bugs with "oldstyle menus" and _cl_autoweapswitch 0?
2013-02-20 21:10:56
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#102
launch options:
-noforcemparms -noforcemaccel -nofbo

i still have -noforce commands because for some reason when you launch cs it unchecks the "enhanced pointer precision" setting in windows's mouse settings if you don't have them.

both "oldstyle menus" and "_cl_autowepswitch 0" work fine for me.
2013-02-20 21:15:21
ty
have no idea what to do with these vgui menus at some servers and not working autoweapswitch :) maybe the problem is amx
2013-02-20 21:35:15
afaik the noforce launch options are back.

of course they become redundant if you use m_rawimput 1
2013-02-20 21:43:31
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#136
they aren't back because they don't do anything in-game. i don't mean that they remove acceleration in-game, i mean the setting in windows literally turns back on if i load up cs without them. it's a weird glitch but hopefully it gets fixed so we could stop using them, as m_rawinput 1 already takes care of accel issues.
2013-02-20 21:48:53
of course they won't do anything if you use m_rawimput 1 ...

"i mean the setting in windows literally turns back on if i load up cs without them"

that's exactly why they were created.
2013-02-20 21:59:10
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#164
it never changed the windows setting before, it simply overruled it while in-game. now it will literally change your setting in windows and give you acceleration in windows after you quit cs.
2013-02-20 22:21:32
Actually noforcemaccel changed the windows acceleration on purpose..let me explain something: CS was built for Windows 98/ME. the programmers of CS coded a function to "deactivate" the variable mouse-acceleration of Windows 98/ME. I wrote "" because it was actually not just a deactivation since there wasn't a proper/easy way to just deactivate it - they actually programmed a function which forced windows to calculate the acceleration with a new value. Now the things is that with Windows XP/Vista/7 Microsoft completely changed the way the mouse-acceleration works. This caused following problem: Everytime CS calls this function, which should force windows to calculate the mouse-acceleration with a new value (to kill the acceleration as good as possible) the new windows versions misunderstood the command and actually re-activated the deactivated windows-function "Enhance Pointer Precision" (of course you had to deactivate EPP yourself; if you didn't uncheck EPP you always got acceleration - even with noforcemaccel). Long story short: this CS function, which originally should kill the windows mouse-acceleration as good as possible lead to the exact opposite on newer windows versions: it re-activated the already deactivated windows mouse-acceleration.

So if you weren't using that launch option, CS always activated the Windows mouse acceleration (if it wasn't already activated). Obviously there must have been a function to reset it after you quit CS. Seems like that function got lost now...

sorry for the wall of text.

anyway: we finally got rawimput and that's the best thing that could happen.

Post edited 2013-02-20 22:44:29
2013-02-20 22:37:39
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#200
oh well maybe that's how it was then, i just know it definitely didn't reset the windows command because if you forgot to uncheck it at tournaments and simply put in the -noforce commands, you still had massive acceleration.

and yeah, having raw input integrated is much better regardless.
2013-02-20 23:14:23
lurpis, you might know this. what resolution is the map/gameplay take place in? i'm aware of the units as a scale to measure, but how does that relate to pixels?

my guess is the native engine runs in a world of 800x600 since that was the middle res back upon initial release.

when you think about it, 640 takes potential accuracy away while 1024 increases it. any knowledge of this area?
2013-02-22 08:12:52
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#295
i think that's all in your head, i don't believe any of that matters
2013-02-22 16:39:00
given 99% of the time it doesn't. but to magnify the differences compare single scoped in on pit from plat on d2. it's widely known the higher res offers a lil (i mean this sparingly) adv to an awper due to the higher res (therefore detail).

in this scenario a peeking head on 640 would be 3 pixels max. on 1024 possibly 9. if your sen/dpi allows you to move a pixel at a time --- which resolution is closer to the native server res?
2013-02-22 18:08:54
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#303
still same size on the monitor so i don't see why that matters...
2013-02-22 18:12:32
99.5 & 101 same feel it
2013-02-20 22:15:39
fps_max 99.5 is still giving me 100.5 fps wtf?
2013-02-21 01:11:39
i have to use fps_max 99.5 to get 100.0 fps, rate 100k feels better than 25k
2013-02-20 21:05:12
mxlgt just tick the raw input the sens will be like before updates.
2013-02-20 20:55:37
valve just trolling, don't pay attention
2013-02-20 20:56:26
in-game community not fixed aspect, but game resoultion fixed
2013-02-20 20:58:32
Good they put fps cap to 100,
e.g. in pub it's gay to have more than 100,
since you can move faster with more fps in cs.
Check xtreme-jumps
2013-02-20 21:07:23
is that true?

can you give me a link to the xtrem-jumps thread about that? couldn't find it...
2013-02-20 22:00:08
Now sens is like before but i have 1 problem...

I will try to explain, when i want to turn 180 very fast i cant, its like my fps is 5 or move like robot,when i turn around normal i can, but fast i cant... Eng sucks :D
2013-02-20 21:08:49
m_rawinput 1
2013-02-20 21:11:10
no man, i play with 0, like before, but now like my mouse is bad when i want to turn around fast, its stop 3-4 times ...
2013-02-20 21:44:44
m_rawinput 1 will solve the problem
2013-02-20 21:49:16
no, than i is very slow, if i use 2 or 1.5 (my is 1) its pretty fast and weird
2013-02-20 21:57:11
you can go all the way down to 0.2 with the new update
2013-02-20 22:49:43
so stick with rate 25000 for now? Or should I just use rate 100000 in case the server has that high of a rate?

and I'm assuming cmdrate/updaterate stay at 101?
2013-02-20 21:08:54
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#116
use 100k incase a server has the new setting, if not, it will just force it to 25k. cmd/updaterat stay at 101.

i believe dlmax is how fast you download new maps, so 512 probably allows for faster downloads everywhere a´la esea (not sure). won't effect your play in any way, though.
2013-02-20 21:25:14
awesome, thanks for the help.
2013-02-20 21:33:19
why I have 6 fps in game menu?!?!?! i can't fix it and it's very frustrating to have 5-6 fps(my console open in 2,3 seconds) :|...how i can fix this ?!pls help me:(
2013-02-20 21:52:17
The previous max for rate was 20000, so you may stick with that. If you'll use 100000 on server with sv_maxrate 25000 (or so), you will in fact kinda waste your bandwidth. But I assume few kilobytes more per seconds don't mean anything these days.

And yeah, cmdrate and updaterate are like before the update.
2013-02-20 21:26:02
no you wont waste your bandwith,if the sv maxrate is 25k and u use 100k it will simply make like rate 25k for the client
2013-02-20 22:30:11
Okay, my wrong, I don't have this information verified, I just read it while ago in Netcode explained or somewhere…
2013-02-20 22:54:45
I'm going to update on weekend, but pray Valve, that works like a charm because if not, I will hit a Valve-guy, no matter who will be...
2013-02-20 21:10:45
Woop woop!
2013-02-20 21:12:26
anybody notice their cl_dlmax has changed to 512? Is 128 not the default anymore?
2013-02-20 21:18:26
I don't know anything about dlmax but it's possible, many changes were done.
2013-02-20 21:21:07
my english is pretty bad and i don't understand few things

can someone simply write me all commands that makes mouse acceleration off in this moment?
2013-02-20 21:18:45
m_rawinput 1
2013-02-20 21:19:49
huh, and that's it? :D
2013-02-20 21:20:22
yes :D
2013-02-20 21:21:55
ok so what if this comand dont take off acceleration? what is wrong?
2013-02-22 00:43:50
It simply turns off the mouse acceleration completely. So you don't need any launch options commands and Windows settings anymore. AFAIK.
So yeah, that's it. (:

Post edited 2013-02-20 21:22:18
2013-02-20 21:21:56
good update then. thank you.
2013-02-20 21:25:13
it doesnt work for me, i still feel weird my sens, or is that i have no played for 2 weeks?
2013-02-26 22:30:30
Graphics been changed before they began updating?

"low video quality" = same as before the updating?
Timedemo with low video quality I gain 20-30 fps more, hitting around the same 1200fps in timedemo as before the updating.
2013-02-20 21:27:40
Ahh.. Seems they have added "anisotropic filtering"
Change gl_ansio "0" - If you want it to look like before the update.
they added gl_aniso "16"
- Cant see the big differences from "low video quality" off and on though.
2013-02-20 22:01:24
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#194
i believe low video quality simply means 16bit colors, as that option doesn't exist elsewhere anymore.
2013-02-20 22:57:29
Seems legit
2013-02-20 23:01:01
so what better? ansio 0 or 16?
2013-02-20 23:42:47
depends what you've played with. Personal preference. Most play with 0, some play with it on (8x for n0thing, 16x for khrystal, etc)
2013-02-21 05:47:28
As #236 writes.. it depends on how it looked before the update. I could see a huge difference in graphic details in 640x480 with the new update and gl_aniso "16". Changed it to "0" and it was exactly the same as before the update.
So thats what im sticking with. :)
2013-02-21 15:25:10
awesome update!
2013-02-20 21:30:47
These updates they make the game even worse than dead.
2013-02-20 21:49:56
anyone getting an error saying "procedure entry point _ail_stream_sample_handle@4" when trying to open 1.6 since this update? It just started today...
2013-02-20 21:54:55
go to library and delete cs, than install it again...
2013-02-20 21:57:56
why I have 6 fps in game menu?!?!?! i can't fix it and it's very frustrating to have 5-6 fps(my console it's openening in 2,3 seconds) :|...how i can fix this ?!pls help me:(

Post edited 2013-02-20 22:03:33
2013-02-20 22:02:57
Are they doing all this updates to prepare cs 1.6 to have better graphics (source graphics for example)?
2013-02-20 22:06:17
So... If u have m_rawinput 0 it feels like u dont have noforce. This setting replace noforces?
2013-02-20 22:09:21
Kind of.
2013-02-20 22:10:35
not exactly,i think that rinput takes all the accel while -noforce didnt take every accel
2013-02-20 22:21:03
I have a problem. I prefer to play on low video quality on, but with that I don't see like 70% of letters in chat and console. I also have fps drops. Can some1 help me with that?
2013-02-20 22:11:51
1.5 > 1.6 > GO, but 1.6 is boring and GO isn't atm. Needs fixes but it has potential.
2013-02-20 22:16:28
GO is boring as fuck and not even fun for most of people
sry sry for insultes

ps. bigos strong
2013-02-21 10:22:21
by: md.
#160
d3d?
2013-02-20 22:16:30
still have problem with fps in main menu, thats so annoying. In main menu i have only 4 fps no more , no less... So i cant get in a lot of servers cause they saying i'm fake user, 8 sec idle or something ((
2013-02-20 22:18:28
have the same problem with fps in menu...screw this i'm gonna play tf2 :(
2013-02-20 22:38:14
eventually gl_ansio 0 or gl_ansio 16 ???
2013-02-20 22:27:43
0 lol
2013-02-21 08:46:22
Fucking RInput does not work now, because of update. Raw input option included into the game options does not deliver same mouse movement as RInput had!

Post edited 2013-02-20 22:34:07
2013-02-20 22:33:02
its the sam for me mate :/
2013-02-20 22:41:16
what about FUCKING -FREQ?
2013-02-20 22:49:42
1.6 <3
2013-02-20 22:55:37
That update tava nothing so good cs 1.6 geito of what was and now they want to ruin the game trying to get people to buy cs: go ...

Errors in the new cs 1.6 (For some people) Green screen, white screen, buggy sensitivity, low fps, easyanticheat falling, locked screen to connect to any server, fps dropping to see a lot smok, and some already coming in with sv very low fps even disabling hd video modes.
2013-02-20 22:59:36
Extended hud_fastswitch options. 0 means no fast switch, 1 means switch on both number keys and mouse wheel, 2 means on do fast switch when using number keys

This is an interesting update
2013-02-20 23:10:27
They shoud fix the wad download and loading for the maps....
2013-02-20 23:13:42
They dont fix the bug console with "ù" and "*" ....

This key open console when we push it, but this key is not bind ....

please fix this shit !
2013-02-20 23:20:14
ya i have a friend who has the same thing :(
2013-02-20 23:54:47
by: BSY
#208
problem: when i move my mouse fast left-right it behaves like a cheap mouse cant explain it exactly but it wasnt like that before the update...
2013-02-20 23:41:26
m_rawinput 1
2013-02-20 23:54:17
by: BSY
#214
and that disables windows mouse acceleration...the problem is that windows mouse acceleration is not working properly...its bugged i dont know how to explain it..
2013-02-20 23:58:30
Same here, dafuq?
2013-02-21 00:19:17
same here
2013-02-21 00:35:22
same here pal
2013-02-21 02:41:48
same here O_O
2013-02-21 10:55:05
we can play nonSTEAM but we PLAY!!!!!!!
2013-02-21 00:55:35
Wtf is wrong with you people???
Valve starts to update - everyone MAAAAD
Valve fixes all bugs and makes the game better - everyone still MAAAAAD


Gj Valve, I like those updates

Post edited 2013-02-21 06:33:24
2013-02-21 06:33:00
Ok so I re-install cs, could you guys give a list of essential commands to be used?
2013-02-21 07:34:12
gl_vsync "0", gl_ansio "0", m_rawinput "1", fps_override "0", fps_max 99.5, rate 100000,
-nofbo -nomsaa
2013-02-21 15:54:24
lurp-peace any clue about the wheelup fastswitch?

Post edited 2013-02-21 07:55:54
2013-02-21 07:55:31
• Extended hud_fastswitch options. 0 means no fast switch, 1 means switch on both number keys and mouse wheel, 2 means on do fast switch when using number keys
2013-02-21 10:18:23
after 1.6 update...do i still need to set nvidia settings..
2013-02-21 10:53:15
Yes ofcourse, both options works together :)
2013-02-21 11:39:24
"• Fixed cl_minmodels not applying after being on a server for a while"

that means i can use once again the red and blue model colors like i did ?
2013-02-21 11:40:25
Hm, looks like my old noaccel set launch options didn`t work properly, now with rawinput set to 1 its easy to tell that now I finally don`t have any acceleration anymore. Finally I can do some flickshots by skill.
2013-02-21 11:44:18
da faq i just saw, m_rawinput 0 makes sensitivity like before or what? rawinput 1 gives accel..?
2013-02-21 12:17:28
rawinput is raw mouse input, without any accelerations. It`s OS sensitivity which have acceleration on.
2013-02-21 12:42:48
so with mraw 0 no accel right?
2013-02-21 14:51:05
valve kill Counter-Strike 1.6 ....
2013-02-21 12:06:54
So.. OMG NOOB valve for not updating the game for so long, you SUCK. [valve starts update]OMG VALVE why update a perfect game you ruin everything, F**K YOU! [valve tries to fix things] OMG VALVE SHIT UPDATES! omg people die.
2013-02-21 12:47:22
still crap D:
2013-02-21 13:19:13
Why can´t I use 120fps??
2013-02-21 13:38:31
failed to start game with shared content. please update these games first : half-life
2013-02-21 14:28:34
okay, so after the update:
every cvars and commands works perfectly, game is okay, but:

http://i.imgur.com/s0JqYgg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bdXivOw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7Bpej69.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wmUVqnm.jpg

This is still unsolved for me.

"card" : Intel 82945G

settings:
-nofbo
-nomsaa
fps 100
vsync off

Video options:
OpenGLx32x640x480
Disabled HD models and vsync
Enabled custom addons
Enabled low video card quality.
2013-02-21 14:47:00
"Enabled low video card quality." = 16bit ?
2013-02-21 15:56:07
its 32 isnt it?
I cant see through smoke
2013-02-21 17:21:22
tho I have -32bpp in launch options
2013-02-21 23:37:01
non steam better no lag better recoil fps rate much better game non steam now
2013-02-21 15:23:51
what rates do we use now?
cl_upd 100
cl_cmdr 105
ex_interp 0?
rate 20000

or cl_upd 101
cl_cmdr 101
ex_interp 0.01
rate 25000

? :/

Post edited 2013-02-21 16:05:14
2013-02-21 16:04:23
101 101 0.01 100k
2013-02-21 16:48:42
cl_upd 100
cl_cmdr 105
ex_interp 0
rate 100000
2013-02-21 23:51:25
my counter strike is still the same..
2013-02-21 20:50:07
anyone nows the command to repair the sens problem?
2013-02-21 20:51:52
i have still 80fps after changes in commands you propose: gl_vsync 0
m_rawinput 1
fps_override 0
rate 100000
-nofbo
fps_max 99.5
gl_ansio 0
Disabled HD models and wait for vertical sync
Could you give me any advise to fix it, and enjoy 100fps like before?
2013-02-21 23:47:53
paste this on launch options of cs 1.6:
-noforcemparms -noforcemacel -freq -nofbo
2013-02-26 23:04:51
Is it just me or the game seems less smooth than the previous update?

Or maybe my fps have some drops now.
2013-02-22 03:49:53
only way i've found to set your in game frequency (refresh rate) is setting your desktop freq to whatever you'd like to play at.

makes alt+tab outta game actually tolerable.



Post edited 2013-02-22 08:16:34
2013-02-22 08:16:09
Fuck update... 1.6 is tottaly destroyed
2013-02-22 17:21:45
When I zoom 2x the crosshair gets slow...
2013-02-23 06:14:50
so lurppis can you write these settings ?
rate:
fps_max :
m_rawinput= -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel

and other settings for ATI VID card ?

thx :)
2013-02-23 17:36:21
What about jumping on 1000fps,do u get a little bug when u jump and player just stops for a while ?
2013-02-26 22:39:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkTe7e6u5JI

2:07, i cant put that black bars at the sides

before the update i could with the buttons on the monitor, i have a Samsung SyncMaster 2053nw

help me please, sry 4 bad english
2013-02-26 22:41:55
zoom_sensitivity_ratio is not as before

single zoom is alright but double zoom sensitivity too low..please help
2013-02-28 05:52:51

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