stavros leaves mousesports
By: MIRAA
Time: 2013-04-22 12:29
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

Dimitrios "stavros" Smoilis has confirmed to HLTV.org that he has parted company with mousesports.

The decision comes as a major surprise as the Greek player had returned to mousesports just two weeks ago, a move that appearead to end all hopes of the TCM-Gaming squad ever making a comeback.

However, Smoilis was seen playing for the TCM mix who won the RADEON Offensive #2 online tournament at the weekend with the help of Richard "shoxie" Papillon and Ladislav "GuardiaN" Kovács.


stavros' second mouz spell was short lived

Prior to the start of the tournament, Hendrik "strux1" Goetzendorff had posted on his Facebook page that Smoilis had parted company with the mouz, and the Greek ace has now confirmed the news to HLTV.org.

"What made me leave was the lack of trust they had in me because mouz owed me money from the last time I played with them, so I told them I wanted the money before I signed a contract, but they did not want that," Smoilis told HLTV.org.

"Moreover, my character still does not fit in this team. I thought some players might have changed but I guess I was wrong, and I did not want it to end like last time.

"We played the RADEON cup with the lineup that we had put together for the GeeX Festival. Since it was cancelled, we decided to play this cup.

"I guess no one thought it would be that easy to win because even though we have some sick players, we played against very good teams like Western Wolves.

"I would love to play with this lineup in the future, these guys are really good players and lovely persons, but I cannot say anything about what they think, so I guess we will have to wait and see what the future brings.

"I think it [the core of TCM] will play together, especially strux1 and myself, since it is very hard to imagine playing without him because he is a good friend of mine."

The news leaves mousesports in a hurry to find a new fifth player before the EPS Finals, which will take place at the ESL's TV studio in Cologne on May 11th.

mouz currently have the following lineup:

Finn "karrigan" Andersen
Manuel "approx" Zeitz
Tobias "Troubley" Tabbert
Andre "nooky" Utesch


TCM! with guardian u ll see :D
2013-04-22 12:29:40
LOL that lasted long
2013-04-22 12:29:52
hmmm amazing, he is maybe trying to create team with guard oO
2013-04-22 12:29:54
understandable
2013-04-22 12:33:01
Shoxie talked about a possible international team, so maybe he talked about things with Guardian, stavros, etc... after their victory.

But he has an exam to pass in a few weeks, so I would not expect him to make any move before a month from now.

2013-04-22 12:33:59
take Black in. He is probably gonna be great with farmgun :)
2013-04-22 14:10:40
black throws
2013-04-22 17:31:05
by: huss1
#6
i can join
2013-04-22 12:34:45
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2013-04-22 12:35:49
TCM<3
2013-04-22 12:38:17
I think shox and guardian will make a team together, but I hope they pick better players than struxi and stavros...
2013-04-22 12:40:57
like who?
2013-04-22 14:19:07
delpan, php, colon, face, robban, zonic, etc. Dunno if they would be interested, I'm just guessing.

Post edited 2013-04-22 14:53:46
2013-04-22 14:52:06
lol dude delpan colon and the others dont play better from stavros or struxi... this is my opinion... and i think face roban zonic dont play csgo at all
2013-04-22 15:31:31
colon? - no. face, robban, zonic aint playin. why delpan when they already have guardian?
2013-04-22 15:45:14
zonic said he might be interested in playing csgo on his facebook account. Delpan has shown some very impressive skills with the csgo rifles at CPH.
Dunno about the others but struxi and stavros are german, anybody could be better than them at lan...
2013-04-22 17:56:21
People still mention ColoN :D He is not good in GO. face, zonic and RobbaN don't even play anymore. They alraedy have the awper in Guardian, who is better than Delpan.
2013-04-22 15:34:53
Well coloN did have one of the highest stats at CPH Games and a lot of Pro players said they saw him play and where impressed.

So coloN is good at CSGO skillwise
2013-04-22 16:23:26
He played really good on CPH Games, so yea he is good in GO too.
2013-04-22 17:37:10
actually coloN was crazy @ CPH if u didnt watch his matches.. he had like 25 frags after 8 rounds whereas his teammates were at 9frags or below..
2013-04-22 17:45:36
by: Dok1
#87
lol...you guys are so blinded by your beloved 1.6 stars.
2013-04-22 20:42:37
Never played 1.6, just saying. I know you're trying really hard to defend german players but you gotta face it, they're shit at LAN. At least, they're not even close to guardian and shox's level, that's why I named colon, zonic, delpan, php (he's from source btw, in case you don't remember), they are/were all capable of being one of the best player in their respective game.

Post edited 2013-04-22 21:40:03
2013-04-22 21:39:20
by: Dok1
#91
I'm trying really hard to defend german players? no.
I know that most german teams suck at LAN but I also know that strux1 and stavros are amazing players on LAN. I would rather get rid of cLy...^^
2013-04-22 22:11:54
They might be better than the other german guys at lan, but you can't say that they have the cs skills of guardian or shox
2013-04-22 22:49:07
next news: stavros joined TCM Gaming. :)
2013-04-22 12:44:07
TCM stavros GuardiaN shoxie cLy strux > WORLD in next few months
2013-04-22 12:44:48
in what sport? eating burgers?
2013-04-22 12:47:51
How about 2:0 by NiP?
2013-04-22 14:46:45
- cly +php
2013-04-22 15:35:47
Why can't orgs just pay the players their money so we can have a decent scene instead of a scene with 3000 roster changes each week -.-
2013-04-22 12:46:56
hahaha i knew it
2013-04-22 12:55:06
+ gob b!!!
2013-04-22 12:56:53
He's sux, sadly.
2013-04-22 14:47:43
gl stavros
2013-04-22 12:58:57
pls gob b
2013-04-22 13:04:06
- stavros joined TCM Gaming.
- shoxie and GuardiaN leaves TCM Gaming to created XXX team.
- stavros : "... o' shit"
2013-04-22 13:05:22
even better strux1 join mouz.
2013-04-22 13:12:06
that would be amazing
2013-04-22 13:13:47
doubt we will see struxie and stavros separated.
2013-04-22 13:45:17
how about shoxie and GuardiaN leaves TCM for mouz? hehe
2013-04-22 19:29:57
Not true TCM was a mix but Guardian and shoxie is making a team together mby with stavros and cly i think
2013-04-22 13:30:30
Is stavros any good? I kinda got an impression that he joined TCM just because of bigname like shox and GuardiaN are there.
2013-04-22 19:29:06
then strux1 also goes because stavros wants to play with him
2013-04-22 19:53:53
was an idiotic move anyway :)
2013-04-22 13:21:33
yesterday there was whole mouz team + gob b on server, maybe they are praccing? who knows.. would be awesome to see him back again.

also would love too see more of the old guys like roman, tixo, kapio etc. back .. so sad almost no one of german top cs 1.6 scene switched to go. :/
2013-04-22 13:43:34
by: xlex
#25
they said that they are training with a new guy already for the finals but i dont think that this will be gob b. Nooky is a great igl and gob b was it to but theire stills of tactics ... are totally diffrent
2013-04-22 14:03:43
nooky is a terrible IGL... Steel and hudzg even had to step up to that role because nooky was so bad at it. Gob b would be an awesome pick for them
2013-04-22 14:55:12
Problaby because their english was better, ever thought of that?
2013-04-22 18:11:18
Nooky played in an international team for almost 4years (so 4hours a day, 5 days a week during 4 years speaking english only), I really doubt that his english wasn't good enough to lead his team... Plus the fact that you german ppl, are usually pretty good when it comes to english

Post edited 2013-04-22 19:01:45
2013-04-22 19:00:53
by: xlex
#72
well nooky was one of the best igl source ever had. Well even if didnt play cource i watched matches of mtw just to see how nooky rulz. He maybe havent the best aim but his igl skills are awsome
2013-04-22 19:02:18
That's simply false. Nooky isn't even in the top10 of the best source IGL
2013-04-22 19:37:58
+1
2013-04-22 15:28:23
by: VxO4
#26
Sounds like mouz gets cheap as well similar to SK.

Django you whore

Post edited 2013-04-22 14:09:51
2013-04-22 14:09:42
why blame him or the management?

don't see how this is the managements fault when the players can't grip their shit together.
2013-04-22 14:35:16
by: VxO4
#32
"What made me leave was the lack of trust they had in me because mouz owed me money from the last time I played with them, so I told them I wanted the money before I signed a contract, but they did not want that," Smoilis told HLTV.org."

Yeah.....

This isnt the first time german organisations betray players. Example SK. Especially such wealthy ones with huge sponsor backup

Post edited 2013-04-22 14:38:44
2013-04-22 14:37:19
Also, don't forget about dotpiXels, as far as i know they didn't paid anything to this team with roman and crZy, which win EPS Germany and not received any prize money because of management of dotpiXels take it all.
2013-04-22 14:55:02
by: VxO4
#39
at least they dont have so much money to spent on when i look at their sponsors but who knows how big these contracts are :D

Anyway good point that backs up my statement even more

Post edited 2013-04-22 15:03:26
2013-04-22 14:59:34
crZy said that they can't pay salary for their players. So we can be sure that they are completely, permanently bankrupts :D

Post edited 2013-04-22 15:06:25
2013-04-22 15:05:20
by: VxO4
#42
or that the orga likes to keep the money for themself. crZy isnt really the most trustworthy source to be honest. He also had problems with DKH when he played in cs 1.6 and there he complained a lot as well
2013-04-22 15:14:03
Or maybe no one wants to give a guy of crzys skill a salary?? He has never been at the tip top of CS before
2013-04-22 19:02:48
roman played in this line-up too, do you think that he is low skilled player and doesn't deserve a salary?
2013-04-22 19:51:46
I wasnt being rude, i was asking you
2013-04-22 20:01:23
I just answered, and wasn't being rude aswell.
2013-04-22 22:02:53
argh .. gl nontheless
2013-04-22 14:15:31
A major surprise? XD I don't think so hahaha
2013-04-22 14:31:24
mouz need
karrigan
troubley
guardian
shoxie
cLy
2013-04-22 14:38:33
This.
2013-04-22 15:08:31
Nice nice nice
2013-04-22 17:21:18
mouz need
GOB B
Kapio
Roman
tixo
cyx (R.I.P)
but it´s impossible ;-(
2013-04-22 18:30:39
Me stavie strux guardian and shoxie making a team for tcm

cu all in Dubai :)
2013-04-22 15:26:41
3/10
2013-04-22 15:35:29
cy@ there
2013-04-22 15:39:31
Thanks mate.

Make sure mikes brings all the coke. It's more fun when hes high
2013-04-22 15:44:25
Lol ain't the druglaws in Dubai tight as fuck?
2013-04-22 16:12:24
cLy not keen?
2013-04-22 15:49:17
Nice :)
2013-04-22 16:11:26
dunno why they would play with you since cLy is outperforming everyone on every map/game nearly. wouldnt be smart
2013-04-25 03:58:12
It was a joke King PauLo

... I swear you were on cadred alot then moved over to make it big in 1.6? Meybe i'm wrong
2013-04-25 04:14:26
no , that's another sAucer which moved to this site after csgo expansion and stole my nickname that i had been using since 08/09 :(

i never was on cadred , and never will be , not my home turf sorry.

and cut the crap with "king paulo" , i wasn't joking.

Post edited 2013-04-25 04:42:34
2013-04-25 04:35:34
Who did you play for in 1.6?

I followed the scene, or you just a forum user with a great opinion?
2013-04-25 16:13:49
you can't "play for" anyone in this country sadly.

should have attended DH/ESWC(with cosmo/drizzer) in 2011 but i couldn't cause manager of the org hated me(for personal reasons)

after that in 2012 summer should have went to DH and some other small events with zE- and zeeth and we split up after :(

unfortunate isn't it? :(
2013-04-25 17:02:03
Oh that's shitty, Is zeeth not danish?

If it's the same guy hes the nicest guy every :)
2013-04-25 17:03:33
ye both danish(zE and zeeth)
ye he is good guy :>
2013-04-25 17:05:45
gl stavros i wish to see u soon on the tcm
2013-04-22 15:32:10
I don't know what the reasoning behind letting zonixx go was, but he'd be the one I'd like to see in this team. Especially considering how well they did in Copenhagen.
Other than that, the german skill pool is unfortunately not all that big with most of its former world class players retiring. But now that the tournament season of early 2013 lays behind us, n!faculty will surely try reconstructing their team, so maybe the german player market will look somewhat more promising.
2013-04-22 16:07:02
who will be 5 player in mouz?
2013-04-22 16:50:20
hope roman
2013-04-22 17:36:20
would be so great to see him back. But he was not so motivated and the end of 1.6 already so...
Has he played cs:go so far?
2013-04-22 18:57:06
shoxie and GuardiaN 2Stronk. True story =)
2013-04-22 17:02:57
cly and stavros are great riflers
2013-04-22 17:35:19
Greece, Germany and money. So classic!
2013-04-22 18:23:36
true words :)
2013-04-22 19:55:48
gob will play finals

http://www.99damage.de/de/changes/8623-gob-b-spiel..
2013-04-22 19:05:24
they didn't even play one single match
2013-04-22 19:41:00
gob plays, but i dont like the fact, that he will leave the team after the finals.

To many problems in mousesports.GO atm. We aren't used to this i would say.
2013-04-22 19:56:42
"MONEY MONEY MONEY JUST ..."
2013-04-22 20:04:13
Well he got his Razer stuff

"Nothing to do here anymore"
2013-04-22 20:09:44
Good luck with that TCM mix, it looks really weird but interesting :)
2013-04-22 21:05:15
Onto better tingsss
2013-04-23 01:27:44
Tcm should move with the Mix team as it is.

They had a good chemistery,a perfect one for a mix team they shouldn't be throwing away.
2013-04-23 10:22:18
pou pas re stavro
2013-04-23 13:58:59
It was obvious.
2013-04-24 12:11:28

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