kennyS out; shoxie joins VeryGames
By: MIRAA
Time: 2013-05-07 18:07
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

VeryGames have announced on their official website that they have replaced Kenny "kennyS" Schrub with Richard "shoxie" Papillon.

Papillon had been strongly linked with a move back to VeryGames since Ladislav "GuardiaN" Kovács revealed last month that the Frenchman was waiting to hear from the team before committing his future to TCM-Gaming.

The former Imaginary Gaming ace was quick to cool speculation about his future, and though he admitted to flirting with the idea of joining VeryGames, he insisted he did not know whether the team would even change their roster.

Last weekend, Papillon helped TCM to win the qualifier for TECHLABS Minsk over teams like Virtus.pro and Natus Vincere, but the Frenchman could not resist the lure of the ESWC runners-up.

He will now return to the side he represented twice during his CS:Source career: after playing for the team led by Sébastien "krL" Perez in 2009, Papillon returned to VeryGames in May 2011, helping them to a highly-successful era in which they did not lose a single match.


shoxie returns to VeryGames

Papillon will be filling the shoes of Kenny "kennyS" Schrub, who has been given his marching orders almost one year after his arrival, despite having the team's second-highest rating at 1.18.

This is the second roster change that VeryGames have undergone since switching to CS:GO. In January, the team picked up Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom after Cédric "RpK" Guipouy had announced his retirement from gaming.

After a somewhat slow start with their new lineup, VeryGames ran out victors at Mad Catz Birmingham last month to win their first international CS:GO event.

But after the event in England, VeryGames once again fell short against other top teams and placed 3rd-4th at the RaidCall EMS One Finals, in Cologne, before finishing in third place at the ESEA 13 Finals, in Dallas.

With almost five weeks left before the next international tournament, DreamHack Summer, VeryGames have decided to fine-tune their squad as they know Papillon will have time to settle in.

"It is the third try with shox for Team VeryGames," VeryGames president Johann Thiesson said.

"It’s a risky move: Richard always lacked of professionalism and team spirit to be a part of the high level competition. It has always blocked him in his career even with his oustanding qualities in the game.

"I personnally wouldn’t have made that choice, but I hope that Richard and the rest of the team are going to prove me wrong.

"Kenny is still young and the switch to Global Offensive didn’t help him with catching up with his experienced teammates. I’m pretty sure he’ll get that experience and fill the  gaps in his gameplay soon."

The biggest question right now, however, is whether the team will be able to get past the internal problems that led to Papillon being removed from the team in November 2011 and to Nathan "NBK" Schmitt publicly saying at one point that the former TCM-Gaming ace would "never play for VeryGames again."

Schrub's departure means that Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux has been promoted to VeryGames' primary AWPer, a role that he played in CS:Source on numerous occasions.

VeryGames now have the following lineup:

Kévin "Ex6TenZ" Droolans
Nathan "NBK" Schmitt
Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux
Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom
Richard "shoxie" Papillon

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holy shit
2013-05-07 19:06:53
VeryGames so stupid OMG
2013-05-07 19:08:09
+1 , kennyS crazy awp, VG dead
2013-05-07 19:24:49
What will hapen to TCM they are sick
2013-05-07 19:28:26
maybe kennyS joins? :P
2013-05-07 19:31:54
I dont think so comunication would be a fucking problem cuz kennys english or another language sucks I think, and GuardiaN retired
2013-05-07 19:38:20
guardian hasn't retired. he said he will retire if he doesn't get a good offer in the coming weeks. get your info right.
2013-05-07 22:36:36
kennyS + english = yeah righttt
2013-05-07 20:21:41
totally forgot, haha :P
2013-05-07 21:16:28
GuardiaN on his FB page:
"Time to retire.. But i will wait few months for some good offers and if wont get any I will retire. Anyway, thank you for your support guys.."
2013-05-07 19:49:15
kennyS was quite inconsistent. He did some sick shots, but failed a lot of shots as well. I think it's quite the smart decision.
2013-05-07 19:54:18
Can't agree more!
2013-05-07 21:14:26
FU VeryGames, kennyS amazing awp
2013-05-07 21:30:11
No; SmithZz can take over awping seeing as though he's had more experience with awping than kennyS and is more consistent than him. Shoxie was a great pick for VeryGames, he already has the chemistry with them from his previous times in VG and is just an amazing player.
2013-05-08 06:59:45
"he already has the chemistry with them from his previous times in VG" Excuse me, did I hear that right? Shoxie has the CHEMISTRY with VG? He was cut because he had horrid chemistry with the team, especially NBK.

Post edited 2013-05-08 15:35:24
2013-05-08 15:32:38
He was cut because he had an argument with Ex6TenZ and he was being immature. If he had horrid chemistry with them in the first place and they had that knowledge then why would they take him back? Dumb.
2013-05-08 15:58:32
Ban the fuckin* ExTe6nZ
2013-05-07 19:51:29
+1
2013-05-07 20:47:51
shox, nbk, scream ... this is fucking madness. :x

now ex6 and smitzz can just sit and wait while those 3 rip everything apart.
2013-05-07 20:08:54
:o

very good move though, I would reckon smithzz is a more consistent awper than kennys.

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:09:54
2013-05-07 19:07:01
You gotta be kidding or completely don't know about the game.
2013-05-07 22:31:32
He was pretty damn solid in css with the awp, and we doesn't see him awping in csgo yet. So yes he could be right.
2013-05-07 22:51:26
I saw him with AWP a lot of times a month ago or so and he wasn't at kennyS level and he won't be. kennyS is REALLY REALLY REALLY good with it...like one of that few stars we can consider with AWP at this game. GuardiaN probably will agree with this.

Post edited 2013-05-07 22:52:37
2013-05-07 22:52:20
Read what I said again
2013-05-07 23:23:58
Kennys wasn't good with the awp at all lol, he had moments or brilliance then most of the time shit, consistency wins games, just look at nip.
2013-05-08 03:17:21
2nd best player at VERYGAMES and look at average AWP stats where he is 2nd/3rd...yes...he is not good with AWP haha
2013-05-08 03:43:57
As a consistent awper KennyS was not that good to be honest.
2013-05-08 03:21:03
You're joking, right? Overall, kennyS wasn't all that great. He's shown hitting good shots in frag movies when in reality, he misses more than he hits.
2013-05-08 07:02:59
KennyS doesn't have a level he's that bad.

He's the most inconsistent awper I've ever seen. "Let's make a movie of the two shots he lands after missing 10".

Terrible over rated scrub. I swear VG is full of 'em.

I actually like Shoxie though, BOL to him.
2013-05-09 07:25:42
D: WTF? noooooooooo
2013-05-07 19:07:04
by: zende
#4
?????
2013-05-07 19:07:35
idiotic
i hope TCM wont go to Minsk and NaVi will.

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:08:19
2013-05-07 19:07:43
+1
2013-05-07 19:20:11
Did not see that coming.
2013-05-07 19:07:47
haahaahahah
2013-05-07 19:07:50
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
WHAAAAT?
2013-05-07 19:08:06
lol?
2013-05-07 19:08:31
well, that escalated quickly
2013-05-07 19:08:46
sad news
2013-05-07 19:08:47
smithz was a more consistant awper in source so works out better
2013-05-07 19:08:50
this is not source dude wake up, kennys is better awper then smithz in csgo for sure ask anyone
2013-05-07 19:16:20
have you watched kennyS recently? misses a bunch of ez shots while smithz makes them.
2013-05-07 19:23:17
You said, SOURCE.
2013-05-07 22:43:56
Yep, He was a sick awper in source definitly top 2-3.
2013-05-08 18:59:52
Well...entire CSS history not sure :P but last 2-3 years ye
2013-05-08 21:47:37
n1
2013-05-07 19:12:08
is it you nostradamus?
2013-05-07 20:21:53
hahaha
2013-05-07 20:43:11
haha finally
2013-05-07 19:09:04
wow that is a retarded decision
2013-05-07 19:09:07
oh my, what is happening.. :D Surely this won;t change much, still think their weakest point is decision making.

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:10:37
2013-05-07 19:09:21
Clearly. :D
2013-05-07 19:39:07
Nailed it, haha.
2013-05-07 19:48:20
So true!
2013-05-07 20:18:42
YES I LOVE ME SOME SHOXIE. NBK,SMITHZ AND EX6 TO SWITCH WITH THE AWP.
2013-05-07 19:09:42
and kennys to lcdc
2013-05-07 19:09:49
wtf why kennys?!?
2013-05-07 19:09:57
Personality. Always complained so i hear.
2013-05-07 19:22:07
Citation needed.
2013-05-08 04:36:56
because he look like potato :D
2013-05-07 20:22:26
WHAT?!
2013-05-07 19:09:58
WTF HAPPENING HERE ??!?!?!??!
2013-05-07 19:10:03
wow sick o.O didn't see this one comming lol :D
well good luck to verygames and kennyS
2013-05-07 19:10:05
LOL.
2013-05-07 19:10:19
lol, ok VG thats the way to go . .
2013-05-07 19:10:19
:shocked:

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:11:16
2013-05-07 19:10:45
WHAT? HAHAHA EX6TENZ/SMITHZ SHOULD BE OUT NOT KENNYS, This is like replace f0rest with cArn now. SO STUPID I HATE VG, KENNYS WAS WAS BEST PLAYER IN VG, VG IS DEAD

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:13:29
2013-05-07 19:11:02
why replace your iGL in ex6 rofl? smithz is more consistent awper.
2013-05-07 19:24:03
You gotta be kidding haha
2013-05-07 22:44:23
You are stupid...
2013-05-08 07:05:19
Replacing F0rest with Carn wouldn't be a terrible idea always, a team consisting of Trace, GeT-RighT, Moddii, F0rest and Neo could very likely benefit from replacing f0rest with a talented caller such as carn.
2013-05-08 15:55:52
why kennyS? why nog smithzz? for me smithzz or x6tenz are the worst players in vg

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:12:05
2013-05-07 19:11:06
by: Alth
#69
SmithZz is a monster when he picks up the AWP.
2013-05-07 19:21:18
most of the time he was rifler so my opinion is based on rifles
2013-05-07 20:30:26
Well, between the months of like Jan-April, SmithZz was one of VG's most prominent players. He just lacked a little in the last month or so. Anyway, I believe he will pick up his game now, especially when entrusted with AWPing duties.
2013-05-07 20:34:52
Funny how SmithZz was their best player for two lans in a row then has one bad one and suddenly everyone is slagging him off.
2013-05-07 20:07:21
I am not slagging him off.. Just saying my opinion
2013-05-07 20:30:53
Yeah just like everyone said "kick nbk" and now that he's been playing well the last 2 events, everyone switch to smithzz...
2013-05-08 01:14:42
who the hell said kick NBK? nbk was their best player 2 years now
2013-05-08 02:26:05
Lol we don't live in the same world. The first 6months of csgo, nbk was dreadful and everyone was saying that VG needed to replace him
2013-05-08 11:10:25
i think something is wrong with you, 6 months that you said top VG players was RpK , NBK then KennyS

way better than Ex6 and SmithzZ 1 - 2 years now
2013-05-08 15:26:26
You are right bro.
2013-05-07 22:44:35
ty
2013-05-08 19:09:09
bad
2013-05-07 19:11:09
EXPECTED
2013-05-07 19:11:11
kennys was best in their team
2013-05-07 19:11:14
NO WAY
2013-05-07 19:11:25
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Really thought Ex6TenZ would go
2013-05-07 19:11:57
me too. :/
this decision feels really wrong but we'll see.
2013-05-07 19:22:00
you guys are retarded.

can't see the meaning why ex6 is in the team.
2013-05-07 22:31:52
Obviously he is not good enough as an ingame leader..
2013-05-07 22:34:28
He's been fine to be honest. Even if his skill was lacking (which it's not) he is still the best French speaking in-game leader available.
2013-05-08 03:25:25
either he play with players that are totally brainless so he have to lead that way.. or he sux as igl... my guess is that it s a bit of both..

Post edited 2013-05-08 16:35:17
2013-05-08 16:33:03
WHY WOULD YOU KICK KENNYS
Rip
2013-05-07 19:12:30
very good move shoxie is just sick and smithzz is a very good awp
2013-05-07 19:12:47
+1 I can surely see them beating NiP on LAN now.
gl hf
2013-05-07 19:14:33
Remember when scream joined?
2013-05-07 19:16:44
This is different, shoxie > ScreaM
2013-05-07 19:28:55
Yeah but they dropped rpk back then who was great too, and this time they got rid of... Wait yeah I see what you're saying

Anyway odd timing right after 3 insanely close maps in a row vs NIP.
All depends on how x6 can keep up his fragging as he did a week ago
2013-05-07 19:29:45
nope lol rpk retire completly different
shox &rpk is still best fr player on all cs versions.
2013-05-07 19:39:39
maybe in source, but in 1.6 MAJ3R, sixer and mSx were by far the best from France.
2013-05-07 19:44:26
yeah true but my joke as to how it would affect the team still stands ;-)
and yes they are insane, if only the best 1.6 player from right before CSGO had stepped over :( (sixer)
he was an insane awper, I bet he would have made it into VG by now :P
2013-05-07 20:12:30
never tired of sucking cocks huh?
2013-05-11 15:15:25
scream replaced rpk out of necessity (RpK retiring), I think most will agree that RpK > ScreaM
2013-05-07 20:33:44
so this will be more of a positive influence on the team you think?
dont get me wrong shoxie is THE rifler in france but on the other hand they lose THE awper in france, so think it will only be a slight improvement unless this means smithz steps it up (getting the awp role)
2013-05-07 21:50:19
I think this will be a more positive change then some people believe it to be, SmithZz was a really good awp and the "new" VG's success will be highly dependent on his play. Shoxie is one of the best individual players source had and I think changing an awp for a rifler in their situation (Ex6TenZ and SmithZz were both awp's in source and having 3 awp players in the team isn't good, now Ex6TenZ can play 2nd awp if needed and SmithZz, as said, is the main awp) is good for them.
2013-05-07 22:09:16
yeah I never saw smithz awp being a 1.6er n all but if he really does still handle it like a boss VG can step up bigtime, still I feel bad for kennys who was 2nd or 3rd best in VG :/
2013-05-07 22:13:59
yeah I think this change had more to do with VG's current composition rather than him underperforming (because he obviously wasn't)
2013-05-07 22:42:56
indd :>
2013-05-08 00:34:07
They won't beat NiP and probably will stand less than VP. This change is horrid and you will see it soon.
2013-05-07 22:45:17
Sad for TCM
2013-05-07 19:12:56
GuardiaN said, he will play only with shoxie... and when shoxie will go to VeryGames, he'll finish the his career... :(
2013-05-07 19:25:14
whaaaaaaaaaat? damn it! so sad about that. guardian is a beast! I thought that TCM could even beat VG tbh... they were sooooo good and strong. fuck that shit.....
2013-05-07 19:34:00
Guardian said on Facebook "Time to retire.. But i will wait few months for some good offers and if wont get any I will retire. Anyway, thank you for your support guys.."

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:35:46
2013-05-07 19:35:18
fuck fuck fuck
2013-05-07 19:44:01
guardian is retiring every month.....
2013-05-07 19:53:27
not in CSGO :)
2013-05-07 22:55:41
And the question is: Why kennyS?
2013-05-07 19:13:09
Attitude problems.
2013-05-07 19:15:55
+1111111111111
2013-05-07 19:21:05
@_____________________________________@
2013-05-07 19:13:16
by: N3E
#43
kennyS ... WHy U??
2013-05-07 19:14:20
WHy KENNYS? AND NOT SMITHZ ?
2013-05-07 19:14:36
coz shox and smithz are friend. shox didnt want to take his place.
Scream is the best aimer in VG
and NBK is awesome
2013-05-07 19:20:56
Will this team ever beat NiP?
2013-05-07 19:14:42
Yes definitely. I think they have a quite good chance to do it. Shoxie can bring alot to this team.

Post edited 2013-05-07 20:47:29
2013-05-07 20:45:42
like scream. oh wait..
2013-05-07 20:59:40
You can't compare those changes. Even though ScreaM might have the best aim in the world, shoxie is way better overall. Personally I think they have a bigger chance to beat NiP with this lineup. Just my opinion.
2013-05-07 22:09:16
he can totally destroy this team beeing a imature kid..they might beat nip a few times..cs is random ...they will never dominate the game

Post edited 2013-05-08 16:45:28
2013-05-08 16:43:49
Should replace scream, eod.
2013-05-07 19:15:21
omfg why KennyS????
faith in VG lost..
2013-05-07 19:15:54
+
2013-05-07 19:17:44
lol finally vg gonna win Nip
2013-05-07 19:20:46
i heard that gurdian wanted to play only with shox. now he will be finishing his career and TCM dissapears. that's sad. they were so strong, they could win with VG tbh.
2013-05-07 19:38:49
NO WAY
2013-05-07 19:16:28
kennyS are you fucking kidding me? best player of team omg. shoxie is amazing but now is team onsame level
2013-05-07 19:16:30
nbk out - kenny in
2013-05-07 19:16:56
?
2013-05-07 19:37:17
i mean they shouldn't kick kenny and if they want to add shoxie they should kick nbk(IMO) not kennys
2013-05-07 19:47:33
why should they change, he was their best prayer and carry
2013-05-07 19:53:49
dafuq? NBK is a fucking beast, probably their best player at the moment.
2013-05-07 20:11:58
you probably didnt watch last VG games, nbk is currently their best player...by far
2013-05-08 00:01:29
nbk is a beast
2013-05-07 19:48:35
KennyS :OOO
one of the best awpers, if not the best, but they prefer to be with smithz/nbk or ex6 at awp, and be with "another" rpk, who can and will frag anybody out there :D
2013-05-07 19:17:29
internal problems or not , as a professional team they should be grown ups enough to sort shitty problems out.

shoxie is an all-star player , very complete and a top player , but they could have had them both...and it would have given a boost with 2 madfraggers 1 very good awper and 1 good igl...

all they do in lan is scream and shout and lose , then they kick their 2nd finest player(after nbk who is #1 i believe , with them saving the matches usually) , and besides that , even if he missed some awp shots he still is one of the best awp`ers of the game and they lost him...

rofl...wow , just wow.

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:19:06
2013-05-07 19:17:56
As in real life, the French are second best (behind the Americans) at behaving immaturely and not working well in teams :D
2013-05-07 20:24:32
UNEXPECTED!
2013-05-07 19:18:42
YES.
2013-05-07 19:47:30
you do not kick your best player :/
Well GL both shoxie & kennyS
2013-05-07 19:18:52
Kenny has comunication problems, he don't comunicate well like his ex-teamates (saw this on the VG movie on ESWC or dreamhack) with ex6 asking him to talk more
2013-05-07 19:19:12
he doesn't have that much problem in communications to be honest, I was on mumble when they played ESEA, the on who talks the least is probably ScreaM.
I'm not sure about how he communicated at eswc or DH though.
2013-05-07 19:22:53
i dont remember the movie, but is one that follow the team in the tournament, and they finish 2nd
2013-05-07 19:25:21
Yeah I've watched it aswell, but can't remember about it aswell :D
2013-05-07 19:26:21
Great for Shoxie.

This Step isn't dumb. Smithz can truely play his awp as he did in source and gets the role he fits completely in and Shoxie is a great rifle boost.

Verygames know what they are doing. those steps have to be done well thought.
2013-05-07 19:19:22
Facepalm.
Edit- - kennyS + GuardiaN would have been better



Post edited 2013-05-07 19:23:36
2013-05-07 19:20:23
but they are are a french speaking team and guardian does not speak french
2013-05-07 19:27:27
I am on the ass right now
2013-05-07 19:20:55
best decision VG could make...
2013-05-07 19:21:09
WHY NOT SMITHZ??? He is fucking noob compared to KennyS, what the fuck is happening ???
2013-05-07 19:21:50
Sign of judgement day obviously.
2013-05-07 22:17:38
bullshit :@
I rather want to see shoxie in TCM with GuardiaN, than in VG, but its his decision, gl in future...
2013-05-07 19:22:18
byebye TCM
2013-05-07 19:22:20
what what what WHAT XD
2013-05-07 19:22:32
VG is just retards for kicking kennyS, thats the same thing as Na`Vi would kick markeloff.
2013-05-07 19:23:02
and GuardiaN will end his career.. :/
2013-05-07 19:23:26
Holy shit didn't see that coming! :o
Anxious to see how it pans out, though kennys was great so the room for improvement is not too big, even though shoxie is outright insane

Let's hope he can get along with Droolanz as opposed to all the things I read about those 2u
2013-05-07 19:23:46
I hope that kennyS won't quit the game.
2013-05-07 19:24:53
he is only 17/18, he won't.
2013-05-07 19:25:36
-friberg +kennyS ... joking :D
2013-05-07 19:24:55
kennys
apex
happy
+
+
2013-05-07 19:25:19
guardian if he would like to play with somebody else than shox
2013-05-07 19:40:13
problem is communication. As everyone knows, french usually suck at speaking english :)
2013-05-07 22:49:05
kennyS
apEX
Happy
mateOo at his old level
flex0r even with a rifle is a beast <3
2013-05-07 22:46:01
could be really strong indeed :)
2013-05-07 22:49:29
Seriously wtf is wrong with them kicking kennyS...im mad.
2013-05-07 22:51:26
some say it's because of his communication with the team, I've seen Ex6 being mad at kennyS just after a game and was blaming him for not communicating enough or shit like that.
I heard them on mumble once, when they are playing vs Anexis, and I think kennys wasn't quiet at all, tbh scream is the one who talks the least with NBK, even though NBK plays mostly solo.
2013-05-07 22:55:50
I think the same about NBK and ScreaM...not so sure about the first one but the second one...he is like an egyptian MUMMY while playing, he doesn't move or shouts even making a 1million dollar win 1v5 last round with 30 sec left.
2013-05-07 22:59:56
haha, he is a pretty silent guy, it's his personality.
On the other hand, someone like Ex6 who screams for nothing doesn't help either, but he is pushing the team for the best so it's okay.
2013-05-07 23:02:26
Well..he motivates but he goes too ahead sometimes like you say, useless screams which doesn't help and shitty things he say. His calls and gameplay are horrid so we can say he is a better style of ¿Oxstrik3r?

I went into a look on cadred now and "Rickeh" says that kennyS misses a lot of shots and that he is so inconsistent at the game. I really lol'd when he is the second one with the highest KDR acc and stats.

Post edited 2013-05-07 23:07:39
2013-05-07 23:07:21
saying kennyS is inconsistent is stupid imo, as you said, at the end, the stats goes in favor of him.
I think he misses shots only because he wants to shoot super quickly and doesn't take his time to be accurate, even though he could.
2013-05-07 23:16:52
+1000.
2013-05-07 23:18:00
Really loved kennyS during his glory days, had some monster games for VG but i guess his time has come to leave. You will be greatly missed.

kennyS > Fifflaren
2013-05-07 19:25:23
Fiffy>all
2013-05-07 19:45:24
Well, lets face that... IMO it's a good change. Kennys was of course very good awper but he was also very incosistent. In one round he could miss 4 shots into one guy but just after that hit 2 flickshots so everyone jizzed. Now they got one of the best all around players out there. Shoxie guarantees them very solid rifling and if only scream and nbk will be able to back him up they will do damage. But this change make that "well organised team" rebuild whole thing. I don't know about smithz style of awping. But if he is defensive, they kinda went for NIP style. Still their strats and bad calls in mid rounds are left.
I only feel sorry for TCM, Guardian, cly... That team had such a potential. Hope they will find some way to stick together with another good player.
2013-05-07 19:25:24
Stupid move imo, unless smithzz can be as good with the awp as some people say.


Shoxie is amazing tho.
2013-05-07 19:25:30
Guess this was the best move they could make. When kennyS plays his A-game, he is one of the greatest AWP'ers but sadly his A-game isn't delivered consistently enough imo. Good move. I think VG will be a step closer to beating the top teams now.
2013-05-07 19:25:41
they already beat top teams
2013-05-07 19:39:27
Ye, in the beginning of CS:GO but now they aren't so consistent anymore because other teams catch up.
2013-05-07 19:47:11
VG is a top3 team? what are you talking about
2013-05-07 19:59:47
Nah, they are not. They fight along side ESC, WW and fnatic to clinch the no 3 in the world. NiP and VP are the top 2 atm, while other teams like abovementioned and NaVi, Epsilon etc. are struggling to clinch the no 3 spot. VG is not a definite top3. They haven't been as stable as they were in the beginning. As I said; because other teams catch up.
2013-05-08 09:40:52
ESC isn't even close top3 xD
2013-05-08 18:48:48
As af now, no. But they have shown to be a team to look out for with decent results earlier. They are not stable. Just as VG. But I agree ESC haven't delivered any outstanding results lately.
2013-05-08 21:56:05
Na'vi too :-)
And WW has lost almost every match the last 2-3 weeks, Epsilon is on the edge of beeing a top10 team?
fnatic lost to VG in birmingham and haven't proven any good results except for an 5-6 place at cph.
2013-05-09 00:23:40
Well, that's pretty much what I've been saying all the time. These teams fight among themselves. These teams beat each other like it was a crossword puzzle because they are not stable. At this very moment because the teams below NiP and VP has pretty much the same level. Some teams a little better than others but still not able to clinch a victory everytime.
2013-05-09 10:13:42
please, they are top3 or even top2, they are present at every single lan and always manage to be in the top3
2013-05-09 12:58:47
They have not been present at every single LAN, but almost. And no, they do not always manage to get within the top 3. VG placed 4th at Copenhagen Games 2013 behind NiP, WW and VP. Again, this supports my claim. VG still struggle along side the rest of the teams as mentioned above. Most recently they lost to Quantic at ESEA Global Finals aswell.

Post edited 2013-05-09 18:34:47
2013-05-09 18:31:32
GOGO VG!
2013-05-07 19:25:46
skilled players (good)
no teamplay (bad)
2013-05-07 19:25:54
Great move, kennyS was not as good as every1 made him to be. Missed a lot of ez shots with the AWP while SmithZ was more consistent. Sure ex6 might not be their greatest player, but he's a great igl. Shoxie is probably the best french payer with NBK so I think VG will be better after this move.
2013-05-07 19:25:59
smithz consistent? u must be fucking watching css demos and still playing css and watching css movies and jerkoff to smithz awp shots, if u say that stupid shit.
2013-05-07 19:27:49
never played CSS :/ did I make you mad kennyS fanboy? love your mature response.. tho if you've watched the latest matches from VG against top teams, when Smithz was awping he missed less shots than kennyS.
2013-05-07 19:29:27
dont reply to him , cant u see he is a blind fanboy ?
2013-05-07 19:40:20
https://www.facebook.com/CSGuardiaN?hc_location=st..

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:26:37
2013-05-07 19:25:59
ohh, guardian planning to retire on this? It's not that big of a deal. TCM were mix anyway, they had potential but hopefully maybe they can find a suitable replacement.
2013-05-07 19:44:03
pretty dumb to kick KennyS imo
anyways as long as they have both Ex6 & Smithz they won't beat NiP, even though seeing ScreaM & Shoxie on the same line up again is cool
2013-05-07 19:26:25
by: ef0
#100
are u a ninja?
2013-05-07 19:26:58
hnhghgnhn
2013-05-08 16:31:56
retarded move
2013-05-07 19:27:01
Reminds me of "Trace joins SK, DelpaN removed."
2013-05-07 19:27:02
YEah, SK did same mistake, HISTORY COMING BACK
2013-05-07 19:28:50
the worst,trace removed delpan rejoins
2013-05-07 19:39:24
OMG. so retarded move.
2013-05-07 19:28:05
good move, for sure. Hope Smitzz bring up his awp game again now.
2013-05-07 19:29:31
Surprise Motherfucker?

YES!
2013-05-07 19:29:48
That didn't take long.
2013-05-07 19:29:55
hhhmmmm we'll see how they will do. Seems to be a strong team on paper...
But what will happen with TCM Gaming now?
Will kennyS link up with apEX, Uzzziii, akeR, (area) ? :D
2013-05-07 19:29:59
Nah, GuardiaN retired and he is waiting for an team offer, about the others idk
2013-05-07 19:34:43
Why do you even mention area, he isn't playing anymore
2013-05-07 19:37:15
He didn't say that he will never come back, he just said that he really wants to play on a top level otherwise he'll stay inactive.
2013-05-07 19:38:43
COME ON SHOXIE!!!!!!!!!!!! u can destroy ALL!
2013-05-07 19:30:01
what the fuck ?????????????
2013-05-07 19:30:07
totally fail.... TCM >>>> VG ..... you destroyed GuardiaNs carrer nice shoxie

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:31:06
2013-05-07 19:30:11
+1
2013-05-07 19:55:10
kennys was not consistent enough for VG I think, ex6, smithZZ and NBK bringing out the AWP will work better for them. VG top 1 inc......
2013-05-07 19:30:12
rofl, vg dead now..
2013-05-07 19:30:42
KennyS was a great awper ... i m sure they will miss him
2013-05-07 19:30:52
hahaha, totally unexpected
2013-05-07 19:30:57
huge mistake by shox.
2013-05-07 19:31:31
+1
2013-05-07 19:32:49
I kind of agree with you, think TCM had a good chance.
2013-05-07 22:36:46
+1 he could achieve so wins much with TCM.. I am so sad, mainly because GuardiaN...
2013-05-07 22:51:39
LOOOL
KennyS > all in VG
now i wont even mention them in top5!
2013-05-07 19:31:33
Holy SHIIIIIIIT, the primary awp of VeryGames and one of the best awpers in CSGO out :/ Internal problems or stupid action of VG?
2013-05-07 19:31:45
what the fuck?!?!?!
2013-05-07 19:31:57
I am concerned about the fate of TCM.
2013-05-07 19:32:03
mad? kennyS is pretty cool player, but it's their choice, I hope, GuardiaN will make atleast with stavros, cly & struxz simply lineup, and someone will add to them^^ GL anyway
2013-05-07 19:32:05
Hope this turns out well
2013-05-07 19:32:08
gl Richard :) <3
2013-05-07 19:32:39
wow never saw that one coming ,even though kennyS was better among the most vg players.. lets see if VG can overcome NIP in LAN ..
2013-05-07 19:33:36
rpk=20
scream=12
kenny=15
nbk=15
shoxie=20
smithz=8
ex6=8

rpk+nbk+kenny+smithz+ex6=66
scream+nbk+kenny+smithz+ex6=58
shoxie+scream+nbk+smithz+ex6=63

get-right=25
forest=25
xizt=20
fibreg=15
fifflaren=8

get right+forest+xizt+fibreg+fifflaren=93


^^



2013-05-07 19:34:02
Fifflaren < smithZZ, LOL
2013-05-07 19:35:51
whats that? rws?
2013-05-07 19:36:00
how u did that? what is it?
2013-05-07 19:42:19
rpk=20
scream=12 ?

NO.
2013-05-07 19:47:39
yes rpk=20

rpk=aim+team play

scream =aim
2013-05-07 19:56:23
you're stupid don't comment
2013-05-07 21:05:25
lbs? rpm? km/h? m? ºC?
2013-05-07 19:53:14
kg
2013-05-07 19:56:40
hahaha such an hilarious comment :D
2013-05-07 20:22:05
you have one small mistake

f0rest 100 alone
2013-05-07 19:57:44
GuardiaN=25
cLy=19
Stavros=14
Strux1=12

70 hmm they need at least "20" to play with NiP.
2013-05-07 20:09:14
too much video games ?

Post edited 2013-05-07 20:20:31
2013-05-07 20:19:55
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#399
I like it, reminds me of football manager. Should make a list of abilities when comparing as well. Stamina etc ;)
2013-05-07 21:57:21
Stamina lol :D
2013-05-07 22:17:53
Nice stats from Smithz lol'd
2013-05-07 22:46:29
Ladislav "GuardiaN" Kovács zdie&#318;a link.
Pred 7 minútami
Time to retire.. But i will wait few months for some good offers and if wont get any I will retire. Anyway, thank you for your support guys..
2013-05-07 19:34:24
really? guardian cant retire -_-
2013-05-07 19:36:25
I would've loved to see TCM challenge big teams with the lineup they had but $$$ and language barrier probably made the difference for shoxie

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:39:49
2013-05-07 19:34:32
Guardian said that TCM is mix and shoxie is waiting for offer from VeryGames :)
2013-05-07 19:36:24
yeah but he also said that he'd hope shoxie stays with them so they can officially be a team.
2013-05-07 19:40:15
VG = salary TCM = no salary.
2013-05-07 21:33:12
ooops :d
2013-05-07 19:34:33
where kenny will now play? shoxie good player but it would be better to change smithz or nbk
2013-05-07 19:34:35
The line up is good but they should take out smithzz instead of KennyS
2013-05-07 19:36:39
Why kennys... weird GL kennys hope you find new team
2013-05-07 19:34:38
Oh wow this xDDDDDDDDD
2013-05-07 19:35:11
WOW Guardian has now retired.
:(
Sad news

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:36:27
2013-05-07 19:36:13
gl :)
2013-05-07 19:37:35
Unexpected, totally o.0 Well, gl & hf in future VG, hoping for the best!
2013-05-07 19:37:39
Extremely smart move on VG's behalf this will make them more aim heavy shoxie was the best to ever touch CS:S just wait till you all see him in CS:GO with a top5 team and you won't be so surprised VG will now become a force to be reckoned with and that's why they picked him up they know the type of player shoxie is and the plays he can bring will push them one step further, Congratulations to shoxie his finally going to get to show his full potential in a top team for CS:GO
2013-05-07 19:38:08
I think this is a really good decision, now happy to replace scream
2013-05-07 19:38:19
omg, jokerpoker
2013-05-07 19:39:02
Ladislav "GuardiaN" Kovács
Time to retire.. But i will wait few months for some good offers and if wont get any I will retire. Anyway, thank you for your support guys..
2013-05-07 19:38:35
Shit happend.
I hope GuardiaN will write about this very soon
2013-05-07 19:40:24
Smart move. Gl shoxie!
2013-05-07 19:40:30
bad move, the good one was

-Scream
+Shoxie
2013-05-07 19:40:32
good move was
-Smithzz or ex6 (he sucks)
+shoxie


Post edited 2013-05-07 19:42:07
2013-05-07 19:41:46
still better than removing kennyS, but scream is their worst player
2013-05-07 21:08:12
ScreaM is by million years NOT the worst player. He holds a whole bombsite solo most of the time.
2013-05-07 22:22:41
having the best aim(or KD) dosnt make you the best player ;D
2013-05-07 23:24:43
f0rest & Get_right - Guardian - shoxie are having the best KD and aim in each of their team - everyone knows they're best, so why not ScreaM? Jealous cunt.
2013-05-08 13:54:47
lol
2013-05-08 14:52:41
what? ahhahaa - ex6 pls
2013-05-07 19:40:47
SHOXIE <3
2013-05-07 19:41:28
HAHAHAHAHAHA Kennys is the best sniper in CSGO, NOT GOOD CHANGE !
2013-05-07 19:42:03
Kicking kennys was totally unexpected tbh , imo fifflaren is better that smithz with awp !
2013-05-07 19:42:10
Great move, shox is way smarter and an excellent rifler. I hope smithzz will be picking up AWP duties from now on, but ex6tence has his moments too.

Where now for kennyS? Could see him in the new SuperstarS lineup? Would like to see apex, uzzii, kennys, happy and maniac together.

As for GuardiaN.. would be smart for him to join an all German lineup, even without shoxie TCM could dominate in the EPS.

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:45:42
2013-05-07 19:42:36
wtf?! kennys awp is amazing... :/
2013-05-07 19:42:39
+kennyS -fiflaren they never said !
2013-05-07 19:42:49
by: FMz
#180
Good move, pretty sure SmithzZ will become a more consistent awper than Kenny in no time. GL

(feel really bad for GuardiaN though)

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:45:17
2013-05-07 19:43:01
are u kiddi'n
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLbN9_TQ8CM

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:45:04
2013-05-07 19:43:12
Huge mistake. -ex6tenz (isnt even good enough for Brussels Guardians.)
2013-05-07 19:43:29
I disagree with the decision, Verygames were steadily improving with their lineup ever since ex6tenz finally learnt to play CSGO.

Could be interesting internally, they've had big issues with egos in the past. Hopefully they've matured past that now.

Feel really sorry for GuardiaN, best awper in the game and easily top10 player and he can't get a team together. Real shame.
2013-05-07 19:43:34
hi fan
2013-05-08 18:40:26
brown sauce
2013-05-07 19:43:47
LOL, expected shoxie in VG, but not expected kennyS out :o
2013-05-07 19:43:52
Good decision. Better player. SmithZz awp now, more accurate and reliable.

GL for the future.
2013-05-07 19:43:53
to make things clear :

kennyS will join the french mix Superstars (sure he will continue to play the game)

this is not a dumb move, as most hltv retards can say

see you soon :)
2013-05-07 19:45:48
Thought as much, who is he replacing?
2013-05-07 19:56:33
Superstars roster isn't really stable, so can't know, but he'll be a part of it for sure.
2013-05-09 00:31:14
Would have replaced ScreaM instead tbh
2013-05-07 19:46:11
gl better then kennys but whos gonna be sniper now at vg ex6tenz?
2013-05-07 19:46:14
Smithzz, he was an AWPer in Source
2013-05-07 19:46:50
ok
2013-05-07 21:21:47
Idiot move from VG. Now they will be top 2497 in the world.
2013-05-07 19:46:16
no navi is 2497 vg will be 2496
2013-05-08 09:44:37
long way to go before challenging nip :)
2013-05-09 00:32:28
really sorry for TCM :(
2013-05-07 19:46:38
You must be fucking kidding me ??!! I mean .. yes , shoxie is a sick colt player and he's another version of ScreaM , but why removing one of their best players and probably one of the best AWP players @ CS:GO atm .. ????

I hope to see RpK & kennyS in some great team , maybe with GuardiaN etc.

2013-05-07 19:46:44
RpK retired and GuardiaN is waiting for a team, but hes retired for now
2013-05-07 19:47:36
kennys really isn't one of their best players, he has his amazing moments but on the whole he doesn't add much. Shox is a far better addition, and smithzz will be far more consistent with the AWP.
2013-05-07 19:57:35
great descision. kennyS was probably the worst awper in history of cs.
2013-05-07 19:46:56
You misspelled markeloff wrong
2013-05-07 20:21:22
i believe it was ksharp i was trying to type.
2013-05-07 22:00:29
LOL, OWNED!
2013-05-08 00:07:04
BURNED!
2013-05-08 04:14:46
apply cold water on burned area
2013-05-09 00:33:14
The word 'scapegoat' springs to mind, I don't think much is going to happen for VG until the illusion around Ex6 finally falls.
2013-05-07 19:47:06
epic fail
2013-05-07 19:47:14
why kennyS?
2013-05-07 19:48:12
I would like to see Kevin using awp again. He was a beast at TeX

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:50:56
2013-05-07 19:49:46
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ?
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy KennyS ?
just shock o0
2013-05-07 19:50:04
theres any other option for kennyS ?
2013-05-07 19:50:05
tbh he wasn't that consistent (atlesat now with the awp) let's see how this guy does
2013-05-07 19:50:10
GL shoxie, finally u got top team!
Stop crying about bad decission, maybe smithzz going now for team role: Sniper- will see.

GL VG
2013-05-07 19:50:43
Lol so sad for GuardiaN

Time to retire.. But i will wait few months for some good offers and if wont get any I will retire. Anyway, thank you for your support guys..

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:51:50
2013-05-07 19:51:02
TCM is dead kennyS doesnt speak english and guardian is going retire
2013-05-07 19:52:30
I know bro :D, i'm just sharing what GuardiaN posted.
2013-05-07 21:17:02
Well that escalated quickly

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/5296..
2013-05-07 19:52:08
its getting boring already
2013-05-07 20:23:12
That dog never gets boring, how can you even dare to say that :(
2013-05-07 21:58:17
WHAT? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2013-05-07 19:52:17
VG looking better now.
2013-05-07 19:52:46
FINALLYYYYYY
2013-05-07 19:54:20
I hope Guardian will find new teammate, witch will be difficult...shox is a BEAST...maybe Apex,Uzzii or area are near of shoxs level..really sad for TCM. GL for shox anyway
2013-05-07 19:54:43
VeryGames Level GOD of Stupid
2013-05-07 19:55:00
The reason they kicked KennyS is because he overpeaks and doesn't always listen to what ex6tenz says And Shoxie is an amazing player so just wait and see, they will come out better with shoxie than with KennyS.
2013-05-07 19:55:04
shoxie 100% wont listen to everything ex6 say to him .
thats why they kicked him before

so no difference actually.
2013-05-07 19:58:20
VG has no awper now ? 1 attacker substitutes 1 awper ...

Post edited 2013-05-07 19:56:00
2013-05-07 19:55:06
Smithzz AWPer like he aws in source
2013-05-07 19:56:39
good awper in source doesnt mean good awper in cs go .

2013-05-07 19:59:16
He uses it in GO too, sometimes VG plays with 3 awps on dust2 he seems pretty good with it and you dont need an awper to win look at NiP, Fifflaren is pretty useless and they still win.
2013-05-07 20:00:33
i know he uses it but from what i seen he missed alot .

kenny won most nuke maps alone playing god mode in this map

i remeber last time they played anexis on nuke he went 22-1 ct side.

and u cant compare nips players to vg players

nip's players balance fifflaren's bad awp
but this cant be the same in verygames.
2013-05-07 20:06:44
They have the the term individual skill' to compensate for the AWP.
If you really look to match NiP, you need to have a solid AWPer in your team.
2013-05-08 09:38:14
SMITHZZ
2013-05-07 20:02:45
What. The. Fuck.
2013-05-07 19:57:39
omfg what a joke kick Ex6TenZ who cares if he calls in game
2013-05-07 19:57:51
YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING, RIGHT?
2013-05-07 19:58:53
and still NiP numero uno
2013-05-07 19:59:24
about time for that mong guardian to retire
2013-05-07 19:59:44
not so wise move :D
2013-05-07 20:01:47
Huh wtf

So sad, KennyS is a fucking beast, enjoyed his AWP-skills
2013-05-07 20:01:51
Good luck shoxie! I hope you will fit in well, though it's very sad for TCM. I had the feeling that they're able to be a top team.
2013-05-07 20:01:56
How is it KennyS's fault that VG are under-performing?

If any, the blame should be put on Ex6tenZ leadership and tactical failure.
2013-05-07 20:02:37
bad move. and destroyed a very good team with big potential :(
2013-05-07 20:03:55
yes yes and again yes.. now VG can beat Nip
shox is 2strong
2013-05-07 20:04:11
Well good, shoxie was too handsome for his current team anyway :P
2013-05-07 20:04:21
even if you're a girl that comment is more than retarded
2013-05-08 16:55:35
lol? kennys was mb the best player in VG? wtf
2013-05-07 20:04:29
by: BATISTUTA9 - HLTV.org
#256
-Ex6TenZ
+Guardian


Now they have AWP agian, and shoxie is IGL


NIP/VP go home..
2013-05-07 20:04:44
It would be great but VG have a problem with english. Scream speaks almost no English.
2013-05-07 20:12:24
by: BATISTUTA9 - HLTV.org
#314
a 2 year old can learn basic english.
2013-05-07 20:31:25
kennyS is a beast...

anyways... cs is not what it used to be.
2013-05-07 20:05:00
It could be a big mistake if they wont get along but overall Shoxie > KennyS
2013-05-07 20:05:11
Bad move.
2013-05-07 20:05:11
wtf ?????? :D
2013-05-07 20:06:02
What a stupid statement.

Sign a player and immediately accuse him of being unprofessional and harmful to team spirit, and basically say you didn't want him in the team.

Must fill him with motivation.
2013-05-07 20:06:14
wtf didnt expect
sad that tcm wont play :/
2013-05-07 20:06:49
WHY U NO REMOVE EXISTENZ frags wins matches and as a IGL you need to frag as well to beat top teams...look at virtus pro where all 5 can be equally dangerous
2013-05-07 20:07:09
After this retard move will be unreal if NiP will kick fiffy and add kennys/guardian.
2013-05-07 20:08:03
its a joke right? kennyS is much better
2013-05-07 20:08:59
Okay, they actually kick their best player...

But it must be tough to play when the president says this: "I personnally wouldnít have made that choice, but I hope that Richard and the rest of the team are going to prove me wrong."

What is he doing. He can't fucking criticize his team in the press, it makes it looks really unprofessional. He has to back them up officially even if he doesn't but that is something he and the rest of the leading management in VeryGames need to discuss in private. This will not make it easier for the team to perform well in the future when they know that the leader doesn't agree with them.
2013-05-07 20:10:17
What the hell are you on about?

1) They didn't kick their best player.

2) It was obviously a tough choice, one which wasn't particularly backed by the management, but was chosen by the players themselves. There is no problem with critising in the public eye, it shows that he won't take any rubbish and will be watching very closely.

I think you need to watch some real sports, players and managers alike get criticised by each other.
2013-05-07 20:13:03
No you dumb. You don't go in the media and criticize your team like this. He doesn't says any positive thing about shoxie, that is so unprofessional. The player doesn't feels welcome by the boss, of course it will be hard for him, he knows that he has to perform imidiately.

Next he says that he doesn't agree but that he hope they prove him wrong. No place in that statement he says that he believes in them, he just hope.

If you follow football the leaders of a club says one day before a match that they believe in the coach and that they won't sack him but after he loist the game he gets sacked.

They have to back them up in the press while they can discuss all the other stuff in the leaders room.
2013-05-08 10:01:22
You obviously don't follow any sports at all to think that's what happens, as for calling me dumb, that just shows the level of your intelligence and maturity.

2013-05-08 20:29:38
..even with his outstanding qualities in the game.

Thats a positive thing he said about shoxie
2013-05-09 11:29:53
Yeah, give away your best player, I'm sure you will win agaisnt NiP now that kennyS is out, Smith as sniper? I'd rather give that roule to Ex6stenz.
without kennyS VG wouldnt get close scores against NiP at the ESEA Lan Finals. Im bout changing my fav team now :S
2013-05-07 20:11:47
Best player lol ?
2013-05-07 20:12:30
even my 15 year old chihuahua could've smelled this coming.
2013-05-07 20:16:05
OH MY GOD

KENNYS'S STATS
Key stats
Total kills2195
Total deaths1639
K/D Ratio1.34
Maps played113
Rounds played2827
Average kills per round0.78
Average deaths per round0.58
Rating (?)1.18
Best weaponawp
Team rating rank2

TOP2 PLAYER OF WHOLE TEAM

REPLACED? fuck you Ex6

Post edited 2013-05-07 20:17:40
2013-05-07 20:16:49
Ex6TenZ is the only player who really should be replaced... Stupid decision...

kennyS HF & GL! You can find a better team than VG!
2013-05-07 20:21:49
kennyS + apex + 3 sick player = GG
2013-05-07 20:49:05
kennyS, apex, EMSTQD, AREA, SUPERFIGHTER
2013-05-07 22:31:47
kennys + apex + stavros + guardian + cLy
2013-05-08 11:44:52
- sick AWP KennyS
+ sick m4/ak47 shoxie

I think SmithZz should be replaced with shoxie, because now VG doesn't have AWP'er.
ShmithZz was sick AWP'er in CS:S, but in CS:GO his AWP skills are pretty bad, so... I don't understand this stupid decision...

+ shoxie -> I like it
- KennyS -> OMG...

VG is still gonna be top5-6 instead of being top2-3 with kennyS and shoxie simultaneously.
2013-05-07 20:19:36
if i'm not mistaken NBK was pretty good with AWP @ sauce
2013-05-07 20:21:04
SmithZz - yes
Ex6TenZ - may be (but only in CS:S!)
NBK - hmmm.... no
2013-05-07 20:23:18
NBK was the best AWPer in CSS before KennyS joined so don't talk nonsense
2013-05-08 00:13:40
best awper in css was GuardiaN :)
2013-05-08 11:45:29
Sorry i meant in Verygames
2013-05-08 16:34:31
Smithz isn't bad with the AWP at all, good decision.
2013-05-07 20:23:28
Well, now he can dedicate more time to the AWP, so his skills should improve accordingly.
2013-05-08 02:50:06
omg
2013-05-07 20:19:37
wow this statement about kennyS is really bad, cant even to not comment this.. i think kennyS better than all these vg players
2013-05-07 20:20:00
It seems that this was not an amicable decision. Kennys says " Thank you all for the support :) Sorry for not saying more. It's pretty hard for me to talk about it, it's pretty recent. Anyway thanks for the support, it warms the heart :)".

http://www.facebook.com/VGkennyS
2013-05-07 20:20:03
omg :O VG need shoxie but kenny'S shouldn't quit, his awp was so strong
2013-05-07 20:20:31
So anytime VG comes out and says "X player isn't joining please stop saying it" that means they are joining right?
2013-05-07 20:21:21
i'm not sure if i'm happy or sad D:
happy to see shoxie joining VG, but... why kennyS? ):
2013-05-07 20:21:42
OHHHH SHIT
2013-05-07 20:21:54
this is the end of this team.. kids

Post edited 2013-05-07 20:28:02
2013-05-07 20:25:36
Can Smithzz really handle the AWP as good as kennyS, like everyone is saying?
2013-05-07 20:27:29
atleast he was more consistent with awp than kennyS.
2013-05-07 20:47:47
In source he was kinda good with it
2013-05-08 08:06:35
noobs
2013-05-07 20:27:44
Dno why, but its kinda sad.
2013-05-07 20:28:14
kennyS, your AWP and teamplaying were AMAZING, so you deserve a better team than VG! GOOD LUCK!
2013-05-07 20:28:33
should have replaced smithzz
2013-05-07 20:28:34
kennys is their best player with scream..not their fault if their leader don t know how to use them good
2013-05-07 20:28:39
VG, poor thing... they always make the wrong choices. It will lead them nowhere.
It is such a waste to see the loads of talented french players without being able to form a correct roster.

I mean come on, why are ex6tenz and smithz still in the roster please ? And why kicking kennyS while he is one of the top fraggers ,?? makes no sense to me ..

It was easy, though:
kennys, nbk, shox, scream, 5th . I dont want to see ex6's face please :(
2013-05-07 20:28:45
+1 seems like they are just a bunch of imature kids to me on the source french scene

Post edited 2013-05-07 20:31:24
2013-05-07 20:31:06
u can see his face alot in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVCs3wpouio
2013-05-07 20:32:16
It's not always about having the five best aimers, there's a lot more to being a successful team than that.

Both ex6tenz and smithz bring a load of experience, as well as being a bit older and more mature than the rest of the squad.
2013-05-07 20:36:18
But despite their experience, it's exactly Ex6TenZ and SmithzZz that seem to tense up the team's atmosphere the most as soon as important games enter the later stages.
I didn't think that VG needed a roster change to begin with, above all not shoxie (especially since that meant the fall of TCM), but if they were to change it, I'd still have thought that cutting SmithzZz would have been the better choice.
2013-05-07 21:23:49
That's never been the case previously. Perhaps something changed since CSGO.
2013-05-07 21:32:41
Quoting some guy on Esea "People will be pissed by this move but the fact is that we have no idea how it is ingame for them"
2013-05-07 20:40:09
Good to see you've realised you have no opinions on anything and have resorted to quoting other people.
2013-05-07 21:33:09
Thats basically one sentence defining all 400 comments really
2013-05-07 22:15:21
TCM was stronger...
2013-05-07 20:30:15
I think they did a big mistake,shoxie is good player but why instead of kennys?
2013-05-07 20:32:21
it's all about chemistry
vg lost to nip not because of their aiming skills
swedes outsmart the french team
2013-05-07 20:33:37
Vg have terrible teamplay comunication and lead..i wonder how they can be so good playing that way. they are very far from the experience of player like forest and gtr and their way of playing

Post edited 2013-05-07 20:46:40
2013-05-07 20:41:38
yeah vg is like a child when plays with nip
they should work on teamplay not just change the lineup
2013-05-08 08:32:30
bad move VG. :)
2013-05-07 20:35:17
DID THEY JUST DROP BEST AWP IN THE GAME??? what is this nonsense hahahah
2013-05-07 20:37:03
Call whoever writes dictioneries,we have a new definition for exaggeration
2013-05-07 20:51:08
He IS the best awper currently.
2013-05-07 22:26:38
how stupid they are.... :D:D:D:D that was end of VG's story
2013-05-07 20:37:21
stfu plz
2013-05-07 21:33:30
Damn huge news but , still lets see if smithz can fill those shoes
2013-05-07 20:37:38
ye shoxie gogog stfu all fanboys gogo :D :D :D
2013-05-07 20:37:51
If they were going to replace anyone for shoxie it probably should've been smithzz. KennyS's awp is fucking crazy.....
2013-05-07 20:41:52
This decision was clearly taken by ex6tenz and smithz. They should be ashamed to prefer kicking the young kennyS who is 10 times stronger than them rather than admitting that they are getting old and rusty for CS. They should let their seats to the young talented ones. NBK could easily be a leader.

Its gonna make me laugh when shox will start fighting with ex6 again. He ll get what he deserves.

Kennys lets join LDLC and kick VG's asses.

2013-05-07 20:43:07
kennyS,apex will be in same team i think :P
2013-05-07 20:46:37
YEAH LETS W8 SHOX PUNCH EX6 FACE, THEN HE WILL LEAVE THE TEAM AND THEY BRING BACK KENNYS
2013-05-07 21:17:29
WORST CHOISE EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAA
replace keenyS?
wtf stay in 1 lineup god dammit
anyway R.I.P vg team

Post edited 2013-05-07 20:49:43
2013-05-07 20:46:21
0_o unexpected news. Kennys was a amazing awp... In my view, kennys had a conflict with someone.
2013-05-07 20:46:45
lol kennys and rpk??????? scream and shox are both good players but you would usually remove the weakest players, not the strongest....
2013-05-07 20:48:46
thats a shame really...kennyS was good
2013-05-07 20:50:09
Kenny is still young and the switch to Global Offensive didnít help him with catching up with his experienced teammates. Iím pretty sure heíll get that experience and fill the gaps in his gameplay soon

Are you kidding?
2013-05-07 20:51:37
Would be so sick to see kennyS,apex,AREA but daYuM area quitted
2013-05-07 20:51:58
kennys apex happy area maniac
2013-05-07 20:52:49
KennyS out? omg Verygames is so stupid
2013-05-07 20:58:12
Until I saw this I was sure VG wouldnt trade kennyS for players like forest,hell or even GTR... WOW how wrong was I

Really really really really really suprising stuff,kenny was so great AWPer :(
2013-05-07 20:58:17
VG manage is bangin ex6tenz sis,, thats why he didnt get remove from the lineup !!
2013-05-07 20:58:18
LOL
2013-05-07 21:23:05
This is so retarded.

Ex6 should have been cut or even Scream who is so overrated.

Bad decision.
2013-05-07 21:00:08
wow, big shock!
2013-05-07 21:00:55
kennys in tcm , and will be a damn sick team :p btw gl shoxie in vg :p
2013-05-07 21:05:41
Makes sence to me, they should turn out a better team.

Think about it, kennyS was fragging allot yes, but he was also making the most crucial mistakes.

Not to mention that he needed the AWP to be impactfull on most maps.

Now they have 5 experienced riflers, many of whom can AWP if needed, but none of them need the AWP to do great.
2013-05-07 21:05:59
+111111
2013-05-07 22:50:16
KICK EX6, he is so bad
2013-05-07 21:09:24
please kick Ex6TenZ
2013-05-07 21:10:43
retard fanboys crying. gl
2013-05-07 21:11:03
kennys go in NIP)))
2013-05-07 21:11:07
Great! I love this swap, VG will definately be A bigger threat now!! Feel bad for guardian though.

Superstars new lineup:
Flex0r, mateoo, kennyS, apex and uzzi
2013-05-07 21:11:52
TCM > VERYGAMES

2013-05-07 21:12:59
WOW dafuq o.o ? what happen o.o
2013-05-07 21:15:18
sad kennys was to good
2013-05-07 21:15:49
what an awful statement, make them look like fools
2013-05-07 21:17:05
if kennys find a good team he could progress more than with Vg i think.. he also have the aim and reflex to be one of the top riffler

i just hope he don't end in a team like superstars crap

Post edited 2013-05-07 21:20:54
2013-05-07 21:17:45
kennys will never be one of the best rifler lol. he can only do some impact with his awp
2013-05-07 22:51:25
any great awper can be great riffler if they just stop training awp , he have mad reflex

Post edited 2013-05-07 23:20:59
2013-05-07 23:18:19
Damn look at this like 95% of people here is for kennyS, EX6TENZ LEAVE AND GET A JOB
2013-05-07 21:19:03
Smithz was the verygames awp long before kennys. those kids hanging around clearly dont know how skilled smithz is.

i hope they doing good. verygames is important for the scene.
2013-05-07 21:19:54
SmithZz was the VG awp... in CS:S. In CS:GO his AWP skills are bad.
2013-05-07 21:31:53
wait for it... wait for it.. and smithzz hits n kills! wowwwww
2013-05-07 22:07:19
Verygames is the new SK.
2013-05-07 21:21:09
bad movee! KennyS > all! Kennys always carries his team :|

VG should be:

NBK
Smithz
shoxie
scream
kennys

and ex6tenz in his mumble calling the strats :D
2013-05-07 21:21:41
agree... Ex6TenZ should leave
2013-05-07 21:29:17
+1
2013-05-08 08:41:09
VG retarded ?
2013-05-07 21:25:22
not VG... Ex6TenZ!
2013-05-07 21:27:51
shoxie blows ex6tenz'dick
2013-05-08 01:34:02
Yeah sure waiting for next games, who will get entry frags like kennyS used to get them.. kick this ex6tenz already
2013-05-07 21:25:33
Can anybody tell me if VG won any big LAN tournament with Ex6TenZ at the last 2 years?
The last their unbeaten lineup was: mateOo, SmithZz, RpK, KRL, shoxie! Then came Ex6TenZ, and... VG could finish a LAN at the 9th place easily...
kennyS will be nice part of any team, e.g. SuperstarS or LDLC.
Good luck to all VG players except for Ex6TenZ, his decisions make me angry.
2013-05-07 21:26:06
umm ex6TenZs verygames were beating everyone for 2 years. "VG could finish a LAN at the 9th place easily..." they had 1 bad lan and it was little before CSGO came

Post edited 2013-05-07 21:31:43
2013-05-07 21:31:07
totally clueless retard with 0 knowledge
2013-05-07 22:20:03
soooo, what big LAN tournaments were won by Ex6TenZ' VG?
show us your great knowledge, brainless kid ;-)
2013-05-07 23:18:12
invalid statement by disabled mong, seems like salo took over your brain, just for clueless saloed like you http://www.team-verygames.net/fr/index.vg#palmares
2013-05-07 23:27:01
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2013-05-08 00:56:05
nice sauce achivements dude. he is the worst cs:go "pro" atm.
2013-05-08 09:46:19
Why wouldn't i show wins from the game he played when that is what he is asking for. Flawless logic right there.
2013-05-08 11:14:28
1.6 player fan of a sauce player. The irony is huge within this one.
2013-05-08 12:35:57
worst move ever from you shoxie, you could have learn so much more in TCM. that's a shame.
2013-05-07 21:33:20
by: JKk
#389
I see similarities to their ingame strats.
2013-05-07 21:35:36
now VG is top10
2013-05-07 21:35:38
as i said only kennyS was the one to be changed
2013-05-07 21:35:48
baaaaaad move
2013-05-07 21:38:51
kennyS go TCM :D
2013-05-07 21:43:46
next month they'll be remobing smithzz
2013-05-07 21:50:02
Nice. I wouldn't say that KennyS is overrated, but according to my observations he keeps missing shots and underperforming during important matches, which is a very bad trait for an awper.

Post edited 2013-05-07 21:52:49
2013-05-07 21:51:05
+ 1
2013-05-07 22:00:18
wat about fiflaren ?
2013-05-07 22:26:05
What about him?
2013-05-08 12:25:17
he is one of their best fragers ! he open bomb site with awp ect... second rating of the team using awp most of the time. with riffle he would probably be first, this guy have very big potential

Post edited 2013-05-07 23:12:12
2013-05-07 23:07:53
- B1GGY
+ KennyS
And LDLC.COM will be a top5 contender.
2013-05-07 21:56:09
KennyS >VG LOL!


Post edited 2013-05-07 22:01:02
2013-05-07 21:56:51
If ex6 gives nbk, scream and shox some freedom in his tacs they could be insane, but if he keeps using these megastrict tacs they will probably be worse than before.
2013-05-07 22:04:02
then they won t need him anymore...he will get kicked..not good for him
2013-05-07 23:06:52
so they kick the best awper they have, keep "SmithZ+x6".

I hope TCM picks up KennyS+RpK.

2013-05-07 22:05:44
Not expected,but shoxie is way better than anyone in VG imo,so i think it's a step forward for VG.Sad for TCM,i really liked the team,hope they can pick up someone really good and continue,although there aren't many players as good as shoxie at the moment,and the few of them are already playing in good teams.
2013-05-07 22:20:37
lets see if this pays off
2013-05-07 22:23:33
I fucking knew it, all you nerds didnt listen to me. Just watch, shoxie is JESUS
2013-05-07 22:39:29
I'm really mad. I told a month ago they won't kick Smithz due to shoxie's best friend :) and someone said "nonononono MIMIMIMI"...there you go. Smithz gives nothing more in that team than kennyS (maybe some co-leader with Ex6tenz who freaking suck at CSGO into calls) who clearly do, one of the most outstanding awps in the game (with GuardiaN and markeloff). Anyways you get shoxie in which is an incredible aimer and you don't kick apart from Smithz...&#65533;ScreaM? Oh god...if you really believe kennyS is kicked due to Smithz being better than him with AWP you gotta buy some glasses out there. He is better than kennyS with AWP at CSS but he ISN'T BY FAR AT CSGO. Also those ones who says kennyS is kicked due to "attitude-communication or w/e in that sense" you gotta be kidding when they have ScreaM who is an egyptian mummy while playing.


Pathetic change not in the sense of shoxie joining (he is the one of the best riflers with RpK) which even the manager wants to do it comes in the sense that why the fuck are you kicking YOUR MOST TALENTED player, YOUR BEST AWP which is a clear difference into CSGO (not many good AWPS) and probably the best player in the team with motivation and youngness. I renember GeT_RiGhT also said he was their best there due to his AWP and now he must be really grateful with that change despite this lineup won't ever beat NiP. He has a bad relation with EX6TENZ (like weber with Rattle) and you just get him again and again (fourth time to desesperately beat NiP) but sincerely they won't do it with that change.


"Kenny is still young and the switch to Global Offensive didn&#65533;t help him with catching up with his experienced teammates. I&#65533;m pretty sure he&#65533;ll get that experience and fill the gaps in his gameplay soon."

What a pathetic and excuseless statement.

gl kennyS, you really deserve hope he goes at least with apEX mateOo Happy etc who could be a good team. I don't think kennyS really expect this. Enjoy your top3-4 whole game Ex6tenz mimimi.


"Richard always lacked of professionalism and team spirit to be a part of the high level competition."

Brainless aimer ScreaM will apport more for sure.

Post edited 2013-05-07 22:50:55
2013-05-07 22:41:22
+1, well writen..
2013-05-07 22:44:26
Thanks...
2013-05-07 22:53:32
youre a fucking idiot
2013-05-08 00:38:05
so mad UK retard
2013-05-08 02:02:00
I'm not mad. You're just a fucking idiot.
2013-05-08 07:55:03
Mad and bad, both
2013-05-08 13:08:47
+2 ethiopean shillings
2013-05-08 02:12:16
agree except scream's mother is egyptian .
she is not.

Post edited 2013-05-08 00:43:52
2013-05-08 00:43:41
LOL, wanted to say "mummie", not "mummy" im sry haha :D thats where the egyptian come ;)
2013-05-08 02:02:54
Actually hoped that the TCM lineup would stay together...
2013-05-07 22:54:02
by: xRx
#446
oke now kick fiflaren from the nip and kennys join in the nip and GL:D:D:D
2013-05-07 22:54:31
i think that the change should have been this: kick ex6tenz add shoxie because ex6tenz isnt a good igl at all i mean his calls are awful sometimes he ruins the team because of his strats and with the change i said smithzz would be igl and everything would be perfect with the best aimers and one of the best awpers kennyS (clean and simple)
2013-05-07 22:58:46
Can't give you more than +1
2013-05-07 23:00:19
thank you bro its good you agree with me :)
2013-05-07 23:34:33
+1
2013-05-07 23:03:50
Rickeh saying on cadred that kennyS misses lots of shots...what a webpage...ha ha ha godly that p0s (a player, not someone who has no shit idea) replied him .

Post edited 2013-05-07 23:04:42
2013-05-07 23:04:15
kennyS does miss alot ? did he say "kennyS sucks" or something like that? no..
2013-05-07 23:10:26
I think you don't understand so w/e
2013-05-07 23:14:08
He does miss a lot of shots. He pulls off some amazing stuff too, but he is no way a consistent AWPer.

2013-05-07 23:42:04
lold.-
2013-05-07 23:50:08
Good reply.
2013-05-08 00:06:26
You are clueless.
2013-05-08 00:19:42
rickeh is right rofl, if you have any idea who humpen is you will know, stop being retarded
2013-05-08 01:23:33
HUMPEN, best awp in germany from css and a good player, yes i know him and met him in EPS finals. I didn't know he also missed "lots" of shots when he was at his top form because he was a beast old then and considered one of the best few year ago.After he stopped playing more and more and more due to things that doesn't come here and after that he wasn't that "top" player.

So you are the retarded since i know him and every situation, something you don't hahaha. Anyways comparing me HUMPEN with kennyS is just a freaking joke like you are coming to insult me here freaking saudi. Hope you get a nuclear bomb and go away. See? I can also insult you freaking retard. Probably your flag is a fake since you don't have to chat or have internet right there...better said...CSS didn't arrive yet there (even Minecraft tho) (mad?). You can ask ANYONE who has some clue from CSS about HUMPEN and they will tell you.
Rickeh is completely retarded and has no clue.



To end with such insignificant insect like you are...look at mostly every post in this thread and you will see i'm right and they defend kennyS. Greetings, xoxo and peace.

Post edited 2013-05-08 02:09:59
2013-05-08 02:05:43
tl;dr: humpen used to be decent pre OB update, afterwards he was shit, cba reading anything else cause you are full of shit and 0 sense
2013-05-08 10:02:08
Pre ob hahahahahahahaha
2013-05-08 13:07:07
point proven, u're retarded GG i win
2013-05-08 13:54:57
Nah you don't freaking random unknown...tell me your real nickname so we can start talking face to face.
2013-05-08 14:21:34
syNN talking hue, you can't insult me with shit like that, only germans getting mad at insults like taht cause they are all low iq LOL
2013-05-08 14:34:39
Sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2013-05-08 15:21:40
why dont you say your real fucking nickname always trying to act like your famous kid

come on tell me what you have done in esports to regard urself as a known player you little cretin

before you even try it yes i was born in uk but never played for the uk scene so no bullshit comments

ive played for the germany usa and UAE since i live in dubai so tell me since i am clued up on the german scene
2013-05-09 09:37:57
TCM lineup potential was way better ! stupid move by shoxie

Post edited 2013-05-07 23:05:42
2013-05-07 23:05:09
shoxie
ScreaM
apEX
kennyS
NBK

france dreamteam,
2013-05-07 23:11:15
+1
2013-05-08 08:43:07
When will be the first time for the new VG lineup to play Nip any online leagues or just DH Summer in 5 weeks?
2013-05-07 23:12:46
inb4 -fiff +kennys threads
please NO!
2013-05-07 23:13:02
KennyS i love you
2013-05-07 23:19:45
Shoxie 3 kills ...

Guardian = dead
TCM = dead
KennyS =dead


KennyS choice = SuperStars, LDLC ...
2013-05-07 23:21:01
I really hope TCM will go at Techlabs, with GuardiaN and KennyS..
2013-05-07 23:29:29
Maybe but KennyS + English = I'm not sure but i believe is not good ...
2013-05-08 00:00:59
Are you kidding me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAKc9l7ALk

1:07.
2013-05-08 02:45:40
I said "i'm not sure" !
2013-05-08 10:30:07
lol huehhue
2013-05-08 11:51:55
hahahahaha has :P hahahahahahahaha rofl :D
2013-05-08 13:03:58
kennyS is an amazing AWPer and SmithZz has now huge boots to fill when he steps up as the main awper but overall, this change will be good for verygames. Its absolutely ludicrous that shoxie has not played for VG in CSGO when he is by far the best french player to ever pick a mouse. Personally id wanted to see smithzz go instead of kennys but they are both really sick and I just fucking love to see shoxie back where he belongs.. :)))
2013-05-07 23:27:08
For what i`ve saw a few hours ago in DM smithzz has very good AWP skills
2013-05-08 00:10:38
It seems he's already training with AWP.
2013-05-08 02:44:43
He was considered to be one of the best CSS AWPers in Europe at one point so im not surprised
2013-05-08 13:11:18
shocking!
2013-05-07 23:30:35
+kennys
-fifflaren

kennyS the best awper in csgo!
2013-05-07 23:34:01
aushuashuashuahsuha
2013-05-09 02:28:23
Sure!
2013-05-09 10:16:37
kennys + in TCM
2013-05-07 23:41:30
kenny was always overrated imo, sure he is a great awper und does great shots, but hes inconsistent and misses alot of the easy ones

but I'm certain he has a bright future, gl kenny

can't wait to see smithzz fulltime awping again
2013-05-07 23:45:29
there's nothing to catch up for kennyS, ex6tenz might be their ingame-leader, but he sucks individually. ex6tenz is far from being a top player tbh (at least he was decent in source).

kennyS is a young player with a great awp, great aim skills and high motivation while ex6tenz is just the originating member deciding whether to kick someone or not. as u can tell, kennyS also has very good statistics on hLTV (ex6tenz doesn't even get close).

i don't think ex6tenz is a demanded player and it's just rediculous that necessarily HE has to talk about "gaps" and "catch[ing] up". in my eyes, he's probably the most unsympathetic player in the scene.

i hope he's gonna find a new good team.

Post edited 2013-05-07 23:50:53
2013-05-07 23:47:22
LOL fucking stupid, NiP > VG FOREVER!
2013-05-07 23:49:23
kennyS overrated shoxie is way better he has everything
2013-05-07 23:52:40
http://nepstadion.blog.nepsport.hu/files/nagyon%20..

kennyS, shoxie, smithz, scream, nbk. :)
2013-05-07 23:57:13
+1

not sure who would be the ingame-leader, but they would find a solution.

even without a real ingame-leader they would play better than they do with ex6tenz on their side.

Post edited 2013-05-08 00:09:59
2013-05-08 00:09:40
lol ex6tenz has been improving a lot fragwise..you are way oblivious
2013-05-08 04:36:18
he's still worse than his teammates.
2013-05-08 18:05:50
SmithZz would be or shox, but in the CSS team they were a team ( Tt.Dragons/Anexis ) but that didn't work out.
2013-05-08 10:36:56
shoxxxie
2013-05-07 23:58:35
Another wrong move by VG after taking ScreaM. Should have been -ScreaM + Shoxie.
2013-05-08 00:15:04
I would disagree with that since SmithZz, ScreaM and shoxie are a really really good trio.
2013-05-08 10:38:20
pros:
- scream & shoxie together again --> motivation boost
- probably less missed easy awp shots and smithz gains some motivation for new 'old' role
- better aim overall

cons:
- probably less fast awp shots and maybe worse awp movement

so overall imo a good move but if they will argue that move will turn out to be crap.
gl
2013-05-08 00:16:26
Doubt SmithZz movement with the AWP is worse lol, he is extremely experiences with it. Noticed whenever he picks up with AWP for a round, or when he saves it after Kennys has died he goes absolutely huge? :D He is extremely consistent.
2013-05-08 00:42:36
well imo against the best teams its better to have some sick awper than a good one whos consistent. i understand though that if you miss easy shots vs those teams its a bad thing
2013-05-08 12:26:28
Well define sick? :P Because personally I think incredible consistency is the best AWPer you can possible have. KennyS is an amazing player no doubt but, he is just way too inconsistent and it costs VG rounds.
2013-05-08 12:41:25
with sick i mean like for eg: who can win against markeloff? well obviously you need super reflex, great positioning and timing etc. imo kennyS is better than smithz in those things but its true, if you miss it doesnt really matter
2013-05-08 12:53:54
Yeah indeed, when both players are at their best, KennyS probably is better than SmithZz. But overall, SmithZz is a lot better in my opinion.
2013-05-08 13:16:16
SmithZz is not a rookie with the AWP and while he may not have the same imba reflexes and flickshots that have made kennyS so famous, he brings to the table a lot smarter ingame play (imo), waaaaay more experience and he is also sick with the awp.
2013-05-08 13:21:11
i dont know how good smithzz is with awp cuz i didnt follow css scene. he cant be bad if everyone is saying that he was good in css :)
anyway we will see, but honestly VGs biggest problem is team spirit now, not sure how they are gonna just forget about the past
2013-05-08 14:38:11
-cons

No movie frags*
2013-05-08 03:21:41
H@H@H@H@H@H@H@ you're funny
2013-05-08 10:39:22
kenny apex maniac uzzi atlantis
2013-05-08 00:18:31
Shoxie babe!
2013-05-08 00:18:36
Anyone saying SmithZz deserved to be dropped is an absolute fucking moron.
2013-05-08 00:38:51
Smithzz deserved to be dropped.
2013-05-08 01:00:04
Smithzz deserved to be dropped.
2013-05-08 01:39:14
Smithzz deserved to be dropped.
2013-05-08 18:44:34
gl
2013-05-08 00:59:34
Kenny's inexperience wasnt what made them lose(primary reason),but whatever they think that shoxie will win rounds on his own,i dont think it will work,but lets see.
2013-05-08 00:59:51
vg top1 soon
2013-05-08 01:11:38
I like that shoxie goes in but no that kennyS goes out.

I believe the right move would be:

Ex6tenZ as Heaton in NIP helping the team to improve with his tactics and so on.

So the team: -Ex6tenZ (coach)
-shoxie
-smithzz
-KennyS
-NBK
-ScreaM
2013-05-08 01:15:13
Won't be enough, you don't see or know it maybe but Ex6TenZ is the reason why VeryGames can play in top5 and the reason why they can't top1.
2013-05-08 10:40:31
WHAT? holy shit
2013-05-08 01:25:54
great job ! kicking the best sniper of the world from the team. it reminds me when SK kicked Getright when he was young... then he raped them with fnatic rofl
2013-05-08 01:50:49
lol I remember they picked GTR lent him to MYM.no and when the two teams faced each other GTR won and SK cried.
2013-05-08 02:20:40
yep true haha it was really funny
2013-05-08 10:16:47
Dumb move.

VG is no longer in top 3 or top 5...

Hopefully kennyS finds a team, maybe TCM? He's a great AWPer.
2013-05-08 02:33:10
You're right. With this lineup they're basically top 1 on paper
2013-05-08 03:08:07
And foxj > world, okey

You must be retarded. I'll be laughing my ass off if VG places at least 3rd at any major LAN now.
2013-05-08 03:32:47
And placing 3rd in DreamHack summer with a new lineup should be considered bad by who? You? I think you're the retarded one after all
2013-05-08 06:54:04
Because I don't expect them to place in the top 3. Now they won't even place in the top 5 or 6.

"Bad" is compared to what VG would have placed with kennyS, which probably would have been 2nd or 3rd.

You think they're top 1? Okay, watch VG get destroyed in DH.
2013-05-08 09:00:22
U think...
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U Dont expect...
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probably...
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arguments and valid point are stronk with this one.

Post edited 2013-05-08 10:22:59
2013-05-08 10:20:52
Inability to read are stronk with this one.

"You think" referred to the person I was talking to. I never said I think VG will not place in top 3. I said I don't expect them to now.

The "probably" refers to the VG with kennyS. The VG with kennyS probably would place 2nd or 3rd.

Learn to read, then comment.
2013-05-08 10:28:22
Still dont get it ?

Kinda weird jumping from think, probably, expectations to "Now they won't even place in the top 5 or 6." or "Okay, watch VG get destroyed in DH."

cool story bro

Post edited 2013-05-08 10:41:52
2013-05-08 10:41:37
No, you still don't get it. I just explained that I didn't jump around from think, probably, and expect. Read my previous post or stop replying.

Not placing in top 5/6 = getting destroyed in DH

My god, your retardation is just overflowing.
2013-05-08 10:47:35
rofl once again.

Tell me exactly why they will/wont place 5/6 at DH and will get destroyed.

Not cos you think. Not cos u expect.

Are u really that dumb ?

Post edited 2013-05-08 10:51:36
2013-05-08 10:51:13
Learn to not edit your posts 20 seconds after you post it.

They will place 5th or worse in DH because they've lost their best AWPer and they've gained a player that NBK has had conflicts with.

I never said I think anything. Are YOU that dumb? Yes, because you can't read English.
2013-05-08 10:53:43
They will place 5th or worse in DH because they've lost their best AWPer and they've gained a player that NBK has had conflicts with.

I think that we can agree that ur just a dumb.

NBK never had a conflicts with shoxie. U have no idead what are u talking about. It was somebody else im sre u have no idea cos u wouldnt say NBK.

Once again how the fuck u cant predict something with a 100% certainty.

Oh that dumbness...
2013-05-08 10:58:02
Did you read the goddamn HLTV article? It says in the second-last paragraph:

"The biggest question right now, however, is whether the team will be able to get past the internal problems that led to Papillon being removed from the team in November 2011 and to Nathan "NBK" Schmitt publicly saying at one point that the former TCM-Gaming ace would "never play for VeryGames again."

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2013-05-08 11:01:45
funny thing is that its not a true u retard did u even folowed css scene ?

Btw i guess not cos u didnt sait that bullshit. Everyone knows that there was only one man which has a problems with shoexie. And it wasnt NBK...

Its like when 1.6 guys trying to cover it and has no idea about past css...

And u stil didnt answer the question. How can u say that with a 100% certainty ? Is it something u have proof about it what will happend ? U can read future ?

OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT U ONLY THINK WILL HAPPN ?

Post edited 2013-05-08 11:07:36
2013-05-08 11:03:03
Funny, if you know so much why don't you explain who this man who had problems with shoxie is? Why don't you enlighten me, oh knowledgeable one.

And how about you actually READ THE OTHER FUCKING COMMENTS.
How many people think that -kennyS +shoxie was a good idea? Looks like you can't read for shit.

Stop editing your posts, you illiterate faggot.
2013-05-08 11:09:36
So by the idea that people on HLTV dont THINK that they are weaker/stronger atm you deduced that WILL HAPPEND THIS AND THIS AND U KNOW IT FO SHO.

What a retard. And btw im not editing my words. Im adding more words.

And it was ex6tenz eveyone knows it you retard. only you HLTV kids eat everyting what HLTV gives you into your mouth...

Post edited 2013-05-08 11:13:21
2013-05-08 11:12:37
No, I deduced that kennyS > shoxie simply because he's a better player and has been playing in the team long enough for teamwork to be effective.

Everyone knows it? How come I don't see anyone saying shoxie had issues with ex6?

If you hate HLTV that much then leave for all I fucking care. One less retard.
2013-05-08 11:19:23
Uhhh why u dont see it ? aybe cos people here has no fuckin idea but talking like they know everything like you ?

There was a long history between VG (mainly ex6 cos he dint liked shoxie cos of his attitude)

Im not saying you must know everything. But if u know shit u shoudnt be talking about it right ? which is your example.

and shoxie vs kennys. "simply cos hes better player" I think that this is the proof why there no point in arguing with you. We can end it here.
gg
2013-05-08 11:27:39
dumb shit shoxie>kennys
2013-05-08 12:43:48
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Just sayin, from a neutral POV, since watching CS:GO kennyS has definitely been the stand out player from VG. Other guys have their moments but in the big matches kennyS was the big player.
2013-05-08 02:49:34
don't think you watched 'em all
2013-05-08 10:35:21
Agree that this is the best choice Verygames can do now.
VG Ex6 = fnatic cArn --> can't kick him before he retires
2013-05-08 02:53:27
u cant compare carn to ex6 coz carn at least changes his strats if smth doesnt work
2013-05-08 03:17:19
+1, but they can't kick Ex6 because that would go pretty much wrong.
2013-05-08 10:34:54
shoxie > kennyS easily

and kennyS has a childish attitude so this is a great move for VG. They are as strong as VP now and can beat NiP
2013-05-08 03:11:11
LoL!!!
2013-05-08 03:14:52
I'd honestly replace ex6 for maLek
2013-05-08 03:19:27
just wow. just wow.
2013-05-08 03:24:25
ridiculous change
2013-05-08 03:26:18
NiP just destroyed another source team :)

Go 1.6ers, destroy all fcking sourcers.

1.6 > source
2013-05-08 03:28:12
this
2013-05-08 08:47:37
is wrong ( since NiP has 2 sourcers LOL )
2013-05-08 10:34:06
everybody knows that they don't count. OK next time i;ll take VP for example (all pro 1.6ers) Challenge me ?
2013-05-09 03:46:12
I'll say that VP < NiP
2013-05-09 19:36:10
VP, the only team to ever defeat nip on LAN.
2013-05-10 04:33:18
so? doesnt mean that VP is better then NiP
they won 1 LAN of them but now NiP knows on what team to focus
2013-05-10 13:57:15
Everyone is mad. Surprised nobody saw this coming, you don't need a good awper in CS:GO to be successful. Kennys was also inconsistent at hitting his shots and his inexperience cost them silly rounds from what I've watched.

Hopefully they can all get along and stay together now.
2013-05-08 03:30:47
But they're going to have a weak AWPer AND poor teamwork.
I mean, come on, does nobody realise the whole reason shoxie left in the first place was because of team issues?
2013-05-08 03:35:56
"weak awper" lmao, smithzz is so much better than kennyS and kennyS has brains size of a peanut. After couple months VG is gonna destroy NiP.
2013-05-08 03:49:37
Maybe you should learn to read. Seems to me kennyS > SmithZz. Or learn to read numbers. 1.18 is greater than 1.08.

If VG loses to NiP, please go kill yourself.
2013-05-08 04:01:31
You mean SmithZz on a 1.08 a rifler? Same head.
2013-05-08 12:43:31
It's good that u know about their teamplay with shoxie! maybe u should learn to read.
2013-05-09 18:13:51
Quote from second-to-last paragraph of this article.

"The biggest question right now, however, is whether the team will be able to get past the internal problems that led to Papillon being removed from the team in November 2011 and to Nathan "NBK" Schmitt publicly saying at one point that the former TCM-Gaming ace would "never play for VeryGames again.""

Who can't read now?
2013-05-10 01:39:49
well it had nothing to do with the overall teamplay.. if u would've watched NBK's interview u would know that. Besides they didnt lose a single map online or at lan with shox. Team VeryGames 2011 had the best teamplay ever, they didn't do any mistakes.. the closest score was 16-14 against check-six @ ESWC, usually teams got max 3 rounds against VG.
2013-05-10 02:25:32
And that was in a completely different setting without the teams that exist today.

Why don't we just wait for DreamHack and see what happens to VG? Then you'll understand...
2013-05-10 04:56:29
yeah there's so many good teams now like navi, esc, vp + other 1.6 teams :D:D:D but we'll see :}
2013-05-10 10:30:18
Yet vp is the only team to beat nip @ lan 4 maps in a row. Just shut up already you clueless sauce. Oh almost forgot ":D:D:D:D:D:D".

ps. nip will still destroy vg, even with your beloved shoxie.

Post edited 2013-05-14 13:51:21
2013-05-14 13:49:45
but... I was being serious? maybe they will, maybe they wont, couldn't care less.
2013-05-14 22:59:50
Typical, first diss the shit out of everything, then claim not to care and not being serious. Grow up buddy.
2013-05-15 13:08:21
well I was being serious about "there's so many good teams now like navi, esc, vp" laughed at the part OTHER 1.6 teams(dogshit) even tho navi,esc & vp have lost to every good saucer team I still have hope for them. Thanks for your kind words my friend! I'm gonna take your advice and grow up! I hope someday saucers can reach the 1.6 level so we can all live happily ever after!
2013-05-15 22:31:59
SmithZz was a great awper for VG in Source, yes I know this isn't Source, the only downside to this move is the time it takes for SmithZz to get used to the awp and Shoxie to learn all the strats.

I realise what happened with Shoxie before, it's a risky move and I'm not saying it's going to pay off. I do think it was the right decision though.
2013-05-08 06:16:06
Lmfao. Weak AWPer. That's hilarious. Just because you haven't really seen him AWPing a lot yet, (which btw when he has, he is factastic) doesn't mean he is weak.
2013-05-08 12:42:57
Nowhere near kennyS' level, at least not during DH.

Why don't you watch him play at DH then? We'll see how bad Smith does then.
2013-05-08 17:15:11
Was he AWPing at Dreamhack? (Which was over 6 months ago btw...) No. He was rifling, when at heart he is an AWPer.
2013-05-08 17:26:10
I meant to say Copenhagen Games. And there, kennyS was undoubtly performing much better than SmithZz. He won't do well at DH, nor will VeryGames.
2013-05-09 02:02:20
lol
2013-05-09 02:34:29
Hahah you will be surprised. Now that shoxie is in VG they have nearly the best possible French lineup and although kennyS was very famous for his quick flickshots and whatnot, SmithZz used to be Mr. Consistency in CSS with the awp and undoubtedly one of the best CSS awpers in Europe.

Im sure that after he gets some hours with the AWP and gets customed with his new role in the team Verygames will be 5x better than what they were before.

Verygames will win at DH, NiP second

Post edited 2013-05-11 12:17:42
2013-05-11 12:17:21
u know nothing jon snow
2013-05-08 04:20:28
you don't need a good awper in CS:GO to be successful.
Sure.
2013-05-08 06:43:44
you don't need an awper to be successful, but if you have one it has to be a good one.
2013-05-08 10:33:26
Looks at NiP..
2013-05-08 21:14:57
Look at their individual skill, do you see the same in every team?
2013-05-08 21:33:41
WHAT THE FUCK. it's like, the worst move ever. kennySs like the best sniper everrr -_-
2013-05-08 03:44:01
calm down.
2013-05-08 11:46:54
wtf
2013-05-08 03:45:40
now they just need to kick scream and bring back RpK :DD
2013-05-08 04:28:12
YESSSSS and then LDLC - apeX Happy maniac kennyS ScreaM > VG!

The problem is Ex6tenZ! His stupid strats and calls were sufficient for Source with players like NBK RPK shox but now it's over.

He is far away from 1.6 masterminds like cArn ave TaZ gobb HaRts and know he has to face it on the same game :))) He just hopes it's not the case but we will see in the next matches from VG!

Post edited 2013-05-08 05:16:25
2013-05-08 05:15:40
yeh looking good for carns fnatic and TaZs ESC :DD even with stupid calls VG is better than ESC and fnatic
2013-05-08 10:59:15
I'm talking about leading abilities which can bring a team to the top 1 world.

VG has powerfull aimers but lack a better teamplay and better strategies (sauce syndrom), ESC has better teamplay and strategies but some players are just bad aimers at Go(Loord, Neo not on shape, kuben never was a top aimer).

On CS GO you need the aim and the brain like f0rest GTR Xizt markeloff Edward and others if you hope to become the best team in the world.


2013-05-08 16:52:47
well VG probably will change their playstyle just like loord and kuben probs trying to get aim back
2013-05-08 18:45:40
ye cuz taz's esc and carns fnatic owning VG so hard lol. good argument bro
2013-05-08 12:47:36
they might pick up Guardian also, VG needs an awper now.
2013-05-08 05:51:59
Learn to read, SmithZz is awping.
2013-05-08 06:17:14
hahah +1
2013-05-08 10:32:13
Did the OP make that defacto assumption or was it a fact quoted by VG Management? Didn't see it in the quotes.

2013-05-09 03:24:47
Schrub's departure means that Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux has been promoted to VeryGames' primary AWPer, a role that he played in CS:Source on numerous occasions.

they sound pretty sure to me.
2013-05-09 08:20:31
'Schrub's departure means that Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux has been promoted to VeryGames' primary AWPer, a role that he played in CS:Source on numerous occasions.'

This is the OP's statement, not VG's.
2013-05-10 02:45:03
Taken from the VeryGames website.

"This change allows the team to try a new way of playing. SmithZz recovers his favorite weapon as the main sniper in the team. This addition of experience will also allow new possibilities on the strategic and individual aspects."
2013-05-10 04:41:33
Good for them.
2013-05-08 06:28:02
SmithZz is more than capable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRrDcmhjNqU
2013-05-08 07:07:15
nothing special :-P
2013-05-08 09:43:06
i like shoxie but kennyS was just insane, ye he mises some shoots but that doesnt mean he is not good with the awp...
2013-05-08 07:36:56
I blame Swag
2013-05-08 07:43:32
vg's problem is teamwork and igl
no matter who joins the team they will fail
2013-05-08 08:25:43
Does mSX play csgo?
2013-05-08 08:28:11
its remind me
trace joins SK delpan out and after month
delpan back trace out
anyway VG must kick ex6teNz not kennys
Remember when carn retire and fnatic pick up karrigan and it was freaking awesome lineup i think VG need to do same
screaM
shoxie
NBK
kennys
apex
and bad for TCM, maybe kennys joins LDLC ...

Post edited 2013-05-08 08:54:02
2013-05-08 08:46:00
+1
2013-05-08 08:50:32
belgium force will not leave
nip also dominates the game with some weak player like fiff
2013-05-08 08:57:06
bad they 1-6 monsters like gtr forp and xizt and VG didnt have
2013-05-08 08:58:04
all this changes ( WW VG ) good for navi-fnatic-vp now they can easily owned ww and vg with theirs new lineups
2013-05-08 08:49:26
ahahah good troll bro

fnatic are just average on csgo

navi wont be as big as everyone wish

VG will step it up in the next few months, and teach every1 what is the real deal.
2013-05-08 09:37:01
ok
2013-05-08 10:43:43
vg sucks with no kennS probably gonna lose
2013-05-08 10:46:04
- Ex6TenZ
+ shoxie

stupid move VG !!!

sad for TCM team ... ;/
2013-05-08 09:40:51
sad 4 all VG fans
with Ex6TenZ they will win nothing in cs:go except for tournaments without NiP and VP.
Ex6TenZ, just leave and save VG's future please!
2013-05-08 09:49:31
hahaha best joke EU
2013-05-08 10:30:31
WTF, kennyS is the best on VG! Ex6TenZ out, he suck
2013-05-08 09:48:10
You are really dumb,
1st of all Ex6 is best friends with NiaK ( manager )
2nd Ex6 is IGL and prob the best IGL France has atm
2013-05-08 10:30:04
he is so overated IGL ,look at tcm playing in mix..

Post edited 2013-05-08 11:44:19
2013-05-08 11:43:58
you can compare it to TCM they only played some online games nothing on LAN.
2013-05-08 13:16:23
KennyS gone?! YOU SERIOUS?!
2013-05-08 10:29:02
hahaha d;
2013-05-08 10:31:21
kan jij je kanker smoel niet een x houden, je praat meer onzin als Paul de Leeuw.
2013-05-09 12:13:44
umad bro?
btw ik ben Paul de Leeuw
2013-05-09 19:35:35
there is not tournaments by far so they can make a change and will try this lineup out on praccs

I think this lineup will make bigger impact on who is really top2 in the world and I think VG will comeback on this place or even beating NiP
2013-05-08 10:39:48
thats fucking unfair for kennyS
2013-05-08 10:42:59
kennyS the best sniper in cs:go replaced this is just sad
2013-05-08 10:49:22
Good move :)by VG
2013-05-08 11:14:18
this is coming from a nip fan, we ll be seeing verygames beating nip in upcoming days
2013-05-08 11:35:24
when will we see this line up in action ?
2013-05-08 11:36:54
Team-LDLC:
Happy
maniac
apEX
kennyS
uzziii
2013-05-08 11:38:26
Would be insane
2013-05-08 13:58:59
if they really need shoxie, kennyS is the right person who would go out, unless he is nice sniper.. just that's so sad for TCM Gaming :/
2013-05-08 11:54:15
Wrong. Ex6tenz is the guy who should leave
2013-05-08 12:11:48
But there is noone who will coordinate :/
2013-05-08 12:13:54
Smithz can lead, he can also hit his shots..Ex6 can barely lead and he misses more shots than Fifflaren, when Fifflaren is drunk out of his mind
2013-05-08 12:29:12
they must change da leader, ex6 acts this role awful atm. i still cant understand their move with kennys, he and nbk did their job perfectly.
2013-05-08 13:02:15
imo if smithzz or nbk (?) could call, they would kick ex6 for apex maybe? that's imo the best french team what is possible
2013-05-08 12:43:25
I hope they are even worse than when ScreaM joined. Surely you would think they know first hand that roster changes aren't always the best option.

GL KennyS in future
2013-05-08 12:02:16
+1.

Stupid frenchies
2013-05-08 12:12:08
Worst misstake ever. VeryGames will go down gutters after this...They seem to think that if they grab the best players available they will be the best team. But their chemistry is already shit and this wont make it better...

I feel sorry for KennyS, best awper in CSGO for sure
2013-05-08 12:11:14
wrong, at least guardian is twice better
2013-05-08 12:27:33
If Guardian is so bloody good, why havent any top team picked him up?


tr0lololo
2013-05-08 12:29:54
because all top teams have full lineup and they'll practice with one stable lineup.

Guardian >/ Markeloff >> RattlesnK = fris = kennyS
2013-05-08 12:35:54
I'd say that Kenny and Guardian are pretty equal, same goes for Markeloff who has shown some sick moves lately.

2013-05-08 12:37:34
markeloff suck on csgo, YES he was awp legent on cs1.6 but not compared with the others.

BTW, there the fuck are the US awpers?
pretty nice awp skill like AZK , Skadoodle , frozt , sgares , dazed
2013-05-08 15:34:22
markeloff most definitely does not suck at GO, his AWP is already top 5 EASY.. give him 6 more months and no one will touch him. You cannot replace reflexes, and his are world class. All he needs now is better movement with the AWP and better positioning, which both come in time.
2013-05-09 19:45:15
i agree with you dude, but its already 1 year that csgo comes out, you tell about 6 more months?

Nico was never top awper, (HE WAS GOOD) but not top.
so in 6 months maybe (im sure btw) SmithzZ will be at top3/5 awpers.

we are talking about all csgo 1 year scene. markeloff was always top 5 to top 7

thats all my opinion. :)
2013-05-09 23:03:08
because all top teams are simply from one country and they speak their own language. and UK scene doesnt have really top team
2013-05-08 12:41:50
They had this same lineup -ScreaM +RpK in 2011 and they didn't lose any maps online or lan for as long as shoxie played with them. They had the most amazing teamwork and others where literally just competing over who got the most rounds against them. Similar to how NiP dominates the scene.

If they can regain that teamwork (ScreaM is weaker than RpK for sure, not aimwise obviously but overall) and SmithZz gets into form with awp this will be one hell of a team, maybe even become world 1.

Post edited 2013-05-11 12:26:19
2013-05-11 12:25:31
-scream + guardian
2013-05-08 12:12:53
hmm you're mad... ScreaM is amazing clutch monster and best aimer in the world...
2013-05-08 12:33:18
i guess even rpk was more useful
2013-05-08 13:02:54
yea, rpk was more useful. and overral better player then scream
2013-05-08 13:08:31
ScreaM is the most overrated GO player ATM
2013-05-09 19:46:28
Nice call by Ex6tenz, like always
2013-05-08 12:15:03
Now we need -ScreaM and +RpK and voila we have new kings of cs:go.
2013-05-08 12:37:18
-ScreaM and not -Smithz or -Ex6 ? Are u drunk or are you just jealous of his highlights that you know you're nowhere close to have that aim? I smell lots of jealous people.
2013-05-08 13:57:35
there are dumb people, but you are on another level, believe me.
YOU SIR,deserve an award !
I mean , a REAL OSCAR !!
congratz
2013-05-08 16:24:04
LOL ex6 IS verygames,Smithzz is their most experienced he have even been longer in the competetive scene than shoxie and ex6. He is not like scream and kennys who underpreform at LAN and he isnt a greedy bitch who tries to be superhero and plays like a fucking moron. Watch more verygames demos or live streams and not just fragshows you fucking idiot.
2013-05-08 18:23:29
"Smithzz is their most experienced he have even been longer in the competetive scene than shoxie and ex6." Then why didn't he step up the games against NiP? Besides experience doesn't teach you aim. Smithzz is nowhere near kennys or ScreaM when it comes to that. And these "inexperienced "players are the ones who's top fragging always while the "experienced" are sucking.
2013-05-08 18:33:46
HHAHAHAHHAHAHAH YOU SIR NEED A MEDAL! Go on the verygames webpage and google translate their statement on why they removed kennys than come back here and talk pls.
2013-05-08 18:37:06
Imagine this
Barca without Iniesta and Xavi
=
VG without ex6tenz and Smithz

2013-05-08 21:54:38
What he said.
2013-05-09 00:54:23
ITT: people who have no idea how good SmithZz is with the AWP.
2013-05-08 12:44:35
he was the best awper in source
2013-05-08 16:01:35
At least in the top 3. The times he has used it in CS:GO too he has been brilliant with it.
2013-05-08 16:37:21
He was a great awper in source, but definitely not the best. Best is between various american awpers (brawwski, noit, zid) and rattlesnk/guardian/proph
2013-05-09 18:45:01
Ex6tenz
Scream
NBK
Shoxie
GuardiaN

The ultimate AWP madfragger replacement, if he only was french :<
2013-05-08 12:49:02
KennyS (awp)
Scream
Area
Shoxie (IGL)
NBK

epic lineup :D
2013-05-08 14:02:22
shoxie IGL : LOL. Do u have aspirin ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KntjzmVd8LQ
2013-05-08 19:34:27
why not? :D
2013-05-08 23:39:25
Who will be AWP player ?
2013-05-08 14:47:46
Wrong move.
VeryGames has been CHECKMAT3D.
2013-05-08 15:22:36
bad decision from VG
2013-05-08 15:41:40
absolutely not.
2013-05-08 16:55:16
probably more comments than after vp win against nip :D
2013-05-08 15:43:44
funny thing is people really dont know anything about kennyS or smithz. saying that smithz isn't good with awp is totally idiotic. however these people think that neo is good(though his skill level in csgo is below fifflaren's) and nominate him from ESC instead of TaZ
2013-05-08 16:02:25
haha indeed bro, indeed..

SmithzZ will be alot better with the awp when he has practiced with it more. also he's more stable with that big green than kennys.

yeah okay, kennys got those ridiculous shots with the awp but some people just can't see the whole picture.

also, to the people that doesn't know their past:
their chemistry SHOULD improve now since they've all played with each other in the past. just wait..

Post edited 2013-05-08 16:17:28
2013-05-08 16:15:00
ppl dont get that VG picked kennyS due to they had noone to choose from, moreover due to the fact that kennyS sucked balls with rifle smithz stopped playing awp
2013-05-08 16:38:28
Cannot wait until NiP and VP destroy them next big LAN... another roster change then? They just need to face the fact that the skill ceiling has just been raised with all the 1.6 talent.
2013-05-09 19:52:36
-fifflaren
+kennyS
2013-05-08 16:25:25
Look at it from their perspective. They exchanged awping power to clutching power which you need more to win strong teams
2013-05-08 16:27:56
kennys is good with bomb planted.. not the weakest link to me
2013-05-08 16:42:09
You Guys talking as KennyS would be THE outstanding AWP die hard high skilling to death that isn't replaceble anyway.

VG has Smithz a proved world class awper and even the Rest of the Team could adapt to a AWP Game if they wanted anyway.

Or do you think AWP Gaming needs some special Force effort?

It just needs alot of practice and dedication. it's simple as that.

I mean VG isn't full with Spastics, so relax and enjoy some shoxieness and the rest of enormous skilled players now.

I wish Kenny all the best, the world will not go down because of a fucking teamchange in CS.

They are all healthy and alive Jesus.

Post edited 2013-05-08 16:37:10
2013-05-08 16:36:14
SmithZz is an outstanding AWPer.

Ex6TenZ has also shown he is very capable with it too (he also used to be an AWPer in CS:S)

NBK and Shox can both use the AWP and have infact AWPed before themselves. So yeah, no issues for VG with this lineup.
2013-05-08 16:38:42
so 4 awps and scream AK? ok
2013-05-09 02:34:23
Did I say they should have 4 AWPers? No. I said 4 of them are capable of using the AWP if need be. They have one actual AWPer, SmithZz.
2013-05-09 02:52:21
the 5 of them are capable of using the awp
2013-05-10 02:44:33
Yeah most likely, all I meant was 4 out of 5 of them actually have AWP'd in the past :)
2013-05-10 02:53:59
"Kenny is still young and the switch to Global Offensive didnít help him with catching up with his experienced teammates. Iím pretty sure heíll get that experience and fill the gaps in his gameplay soon."

yes right thx for this bullshit statement..just keep ex6tenz and add fifflaren and disruptor u cunts..
2013-05-08 16:48:51
Kenny go to LDLC

- apeX
- HAPPY
- MANIAC
- Sf
- kennyS
2013-05-08 17:01:03
Any KennyS statement about this?
2013-05-08 17:17:20
yeah he said this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAKc9l7ALk&t=1..
2013-05-08 17:37:23
yeah there is a itw on vakarm

Post edited 2013-05-09 19:34:08
2013-05-09 19:32:41
thanks :)
2013-05-09 22:35:15
Soon an interview of KennyS on Vakarm !
2013-05-08 18:36:59
The biggest question right now, however, is whether the team will be able to get past the internal problems that led to Papillon being removed from the team in November 2011 and to Nathan "NBK" Schmitt publicly saying at one point that the former TCM-Gaming ace would "never play for VeryGames again."

It's a risky move: Richard always lacked of professionalism and team spirit to be a part of the high level competition [...]

I personnally wouldn't have made that choice, but I hope that Richard and the rest of the team are going to prove me wrong.


Jesus Christ, this sounds like the most naive decision in CS history.

(Edit: naive on the part of the players - when even your own management is publicly saying they think it's a bad idea, you're probably delusional.)

Post edited 2013-05-08 20:34:05
2013-05-08 20:31:09
But what would the management know about what the team requires? Surely the team leader who has more experience and know-how about cs knows more. Anyone who has even been in a team or a team leader understands that individual skill isnt everything, and i think the naive person in the situation is actually the management.

If the management were right about everything in these situations, then they would be playing in the team as the leader and Ex6tenz would be managing them.

I think the fact that the management publicly made these comments shows lack of understanding of team dynamics, and i wouldnt be surprised if a personal disagreement arose between them and Ex6tenz because they cannot see the possible benefit this could have. I personally think its quite unprofessional to make those comments and it shows lack of respect and trust towards players under the organisation. ESPECIALLY somebody like Ex6tenz who has been with them for so many years.

I certainly dont think dropping Kennys will hurt the team, imo shoxie is better than him skill wise AND he can work in a team better. The true test will be whether him and Ex6tenz can get along, i hope they can.

Post edited 2013-05-09 15:36:57
2013-05-09 15:32:41
Management can often make better decisions than the players when it comes to personal issues. No-one is questioning Shoxie's in-game ability, but it's obvious that they're taking a very big risk with the personality conflict. Given NBK's public statements, this is an incredibly naive decision.
2013-05-11 12:03:08
I forgot to mention that i understand why they are skeptical, but i dont think they are considering the fact that shoxie's past experiences in VG have been a different game. He hasnt tried cs:go with them yet.
2013-05-09 15:48:52
omg idiots replaced great player an sick awper to shoxie n.c kennys was best player in VG

Post edited 2013-05-08 20:35:52
2013-05-08 20:33:12
Have the second-highest rating in the team, USING MAINLY AWP is hard.
Verygames you're so stupid.
2013-05-08 21:38:26
I think people are forgetting that VeryGames players except ScreaM were once primary awpers. The AWP department is not a major concern really. Besides, KennyS is like Delpan. Flashy but inconsistent.

Shox's addition will give them more depths in the creative side. It's not the end of the world. ;)
2013-05-08 21:59:41
SmithZz and Ex6TenZ were good with AWP, but only in Source. I saw them AWPing in GO and they didn't demonstrate anything special, Ex6TenZ missed a majority of shots he made, and SmithZz was not bad with AWP but still not as good as the AWPer of the top team should be. You can say that NiP wins big LANs with Fifflaren's ordinary AWP skills, but NiP has three overexperienced players from 1.6 and simply good aimer friberg, and VG has Ex6TenZ with his "excellent" calls... So kicking kennyS isn't a good idea.
2013-05-08 23:58:15
how can you say Delpan is inconsistent if he's "just now" starting cs go?
2013-05-09 02:33:05
- shoxie
+ Oztrik3r
2013-05-09 00:31:32
-Verygames + Oztrik3r
2013-05-09 02:31:44
People, we can't know yet, if it is a bad decision or not.
2013-05-09 00:37:22
yes it's a bad decision. It can work out for them, but it's a bad decision.
2013-05-09 02:32:15
Fucking amazing conclusion there mate, simply amazing
2013-05-09 18:37:28
wow, just read this. Good move imo, SORT OUT YOUR PROBLEMS and DESTROY EVERYONE. x
2013-05-09 03:34:59
lmfao these comments are jokes
2013-05-09 09:41:24
Experience is overrated. As long as you dont get nervous it makes no difference. If you're good, you're good.. It doesn't matter how long you've been playing.
2013-05-09 10:58:54
... bad
2013-05-09 15:34:27
nbk out!
2013-05-09 18:12:14
Vg full of shit with their press like usual
2013-05-09 18:48:58
Idiotic, Kenny was the best player on VG, They have to start playing as a team, Not having one retard calling what to do....

GL Kenny.
2013-05-09 23:08:47
this is unbelievable.
2013-05-12 02:31:19
Kinda harsh comments from the manager about their newest recruit.. "Good luck even if you are a childish and bad as a player"
2013-05-13 09:55:11
i believe shoxie was the main awper when he played for Imaginary. He wasn't doin' bad, so maybe he can take sniper role from time to time ?
2013-05-13 11:43:46
He wont be awping it would be retarded kennyS was way better awp.

But shoxie is way more complete player than kennys in every other way. Smithzz will be now main awp since he was in css.
2013-05-13 11:46:44
but is smithz better than kennyS at AWP?
2013-05-14 23:01:36
xD
2013-06-25 16:32:33

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