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VeryGames have won RaidCall EMS One Summer 2013 finals after an easy 2-0 victory over Virtus.pro (16-8 de_mirage_ce, 16-11 de_dust2_se) for $12,000.
VeryGames opened up the grand final on de_mirage_ce with a quick push into the B bombsite where they wiped out Virtus' defenders. Two risky anti-eco pushes to B followed, with Virtus winning the third one versus a careless VeryGames team.
Nathan "NBK" Schmitt's four kill effort quickly shifted momentum back on VeryGames' side, as they extended their lead to 4-1. Virtus had no answers to the Frenchmen despite Sergey "Fox" Stolyarov's four save round kills, as they lost six more straight rounds.
Trailing 1-10, Stolyarov added three more AK47 kills in the B tunnel and scored his team just their second round of the half. Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom replied with three AK47 kills of his own, and the last two rounds were traded for a 12-3 half time score.
Mihail "Dosia" Stolyarov's two entry frags into B gave Virtus the second half pistol round, but after barely missing out on the defuse in round two, Schmitt gets four kills on the third round to win his team a save round.
With Virtus.pro's play in shambles, they hung around for a couple of rounds, but weren't able to match the level of play Kevìn "Ex6TenZ" Droolans' team showed, and fell short 8-16.
Richard "shoxie" Papillon and Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux combined for four kills on de_dust2_se's counter-terrorist pistol round. The CIS-based squad's in-game leader Kirill "ANGE1" Karasiow then scored four AK47 kills on the third round, but even that wasn't enough, as Schmitt's one-on-four clutch won VG the round.
Virtus stuck to their game plan and wound up winning the next seven rounds in a row for a 7-3 lead, including a two-on-three by Sergey "Fox" Stolyarov and Emil "kucher" Akhundov in B as it looked like they were taking over the match.
VeryGames came back with a three-on-three retake win at A though, and although Virtus won the round after, the Frenchmen didn't surrender and took two more rounds, ultimately finishing with six as defenders.
Schmitt continued his MVP-level play by scoring three kills on the pistol round that effectively tied the game at nine. Fourth round went to VG as well, and after a save round they were in the lead at 11-9.
The Stolyarov brothers combined for five kills on round twenty-two, but had no time to defuse and VG extended their lead. The French then executed a full on B rush that put them up 14-9.
Ladislav "GuardiaN" Kovács clinched a one-on-one versus Schmitt on the next round to win Virtus a save round, and Sergey "Fox" Stolyarov's three kills secured an anti-eco for VP to make it 11-14.
That would be all the rounds Virtus.pro could muster up though, as they were simply shut down once more by VeryGames who clinched a 2-0 series win and their second international CS:GO tournament win after Mad Catz Birmingham in April.
RaidCall EMS One Summer 2013 final standings:
1. VeryGames - $12,000
2. Virtus.pro - $7,000
3-4. NiP - $4,000
3-4. fnatic - $4,000
5-8. Western Wolves - $2,000
5-8. LDLC.com - $2,000
5-8. ESC Gaming - $2,000
5-8. Copenhagen Wolves - $2,000
Stay tuned to HLTV.org as we wrap up our live coverage from the ESL TV studios in Cologne, Germany.
Post edited 2013-06-30 22:51:52
i bet they jizzed
there you go
NBK sure was amazing, as he is most of the time, but VG was clearly outstrating VP many times.
Post edited 2013-06-30 22:59:40
30 frags more than his 4 teammates, im not saying that it was only NBK but he was the main reason, he was simply amazing, he was the difference.
It's true that D2 had a lot of very close rounds, but several of them were won by other players than NBK (Scream and Shox for sure, I think Smithzz made one as well).
So yes, he was on fire, but going like it was, even if he was just playing at his teammates level it would not have changed the final in my opinion. At the best we would have seen overtime on D2, MAYBE.
Sure, most close rounds might have been won by his teammates, but a lot of those rounds wouldn't have been close at all if NBK played on the level of the other 4 guys that day.
If his K/D-Ratio were the exact average of his other 4 teammates, VG would've ended up with a frag deficit of -18. Hard to imagine they'd win with that. (not even taking into account better weaponry for vp because of better cashflow, momentum, ...)
Of course, these are just stats and don't account for the amount of anti-eco-frags, finishing off damaged enemies et cetera, nevertheless, those numbers are HUGE.
Arguing that NBK wasn't the difference doesn't seem right because all objective criteria say he did.
Post edited 2013-07-02 04:38:11
So taking off his incredible stats would have more than likely led to Shoxie and Scream stepping up to replace his mad fragging.
That's my thoughts.
And btw, since when winning versus nip or vp actually means that you won a LAN ?
Post edited 2013-07-01 00:55:48
2:0 for VP fs but yeah cg.
dude you r wronk
Post edited 2013-06-30 22:53:17
Th team was clearly stronger with AdreN.
1 TIME. Jeez it�s not like they�r overtakin the throne, NIP will be back. Be so sure
Post edited 2013-06-30 22:47:54
If yes, then yeah sure you would be the number one. If no, its not the same case, idiot.
I know they would need to win vs NiP more than once, I just think if they can do it one time now they will get rid of the psychological block and start to dominate. They have enough skill and dedication for it.
Implying this was Tennis, NiP would be far ahead
but Rpk & shox was just the best player from css + smithzz good friend.
The best line up really was 2K11 they demolish every line up no one took map against them in more than a year far more than NIP .
And some extra 2 or 3 livers xD
vg have beaten them......never
Post edited 2013-07-01 08:57:01
so no, i dont think vg can beat nip
Post edited 2013-06-30 22:52:08
I.e. both f0rest and GeT_RiGhT is far above anyone else skillwise currently..
E: The game is more sourcebased, which makes it harder for 1.6 players to adapt to it. That does not mean anything that 1.6 players are less skilled. Just that it will take more time for them to learn the meta. If GO sticks around for a couple of years, we'll see how it goes. I guess it will bring alot of new players too!
Post edited 2013-07-01 01:40:29
Thats not real, and beside that, the game has +1 Year. IF they didnt managed to learn the game until now , they won never learn the game.
F0rest ? you maybe right, GTR ?? Dont be stupid please young man.
Friberg hes way better in head and aim.
"Still, the skill of most CS 1.6 players is higher"
How can you say this ?
"VG - 5 source players, LDLC - 5 source players, VP - 1 source player, NiP - 2 source players, Epsilon - 2 source players, CPH - 5 source players, WW - 5 source players.."
Why they arent in the top teams, if their skill is higher ? Dont be ridiculous LMAO
Forest everygame like 30 +/- frags.
GTR in some games (easier task) he frags 40 guys , then he plays against VG and does like 13-17 .
GTR against top teams, is a bit inconsistent, im not saying that he isnt one of the best players out there, but hes not the second/third for sure, friberg helps way more NiP then GTR (different roles as well but), RPK when he played was better then GTR and i think almost/equal to f0rest.
You cant rate a player just for the stats !!
Show me negative scores from GTR? Quite sure there are almost none and he always does great under pressure, dont know what you are talking about.
Stats might not be everything but they mean a lot, he is the top fragger of the game for a reason, in my mind he's clearly the second, but meh, we can agree to disagree, thats fine.
4.3k / 2.5k |
3.7k / 2.9k |
-Friberg is even behind Xizt who is the IGL..
Not saying friberg is bad, he's really good, but comparing him to gtr and f0rest is just plain wrong.
1.6 scene was like 10 times bigger than source scene and yet you can only can come up with 2 players? :S yes f0rest and GTR are great riflers, but the AWP is dominated by source players undoubtedly (guardian, nico, kennys).
E: The game is more sourcebased, which makes it harder for 1.6 players to adapt to it.
That's wrong... I'm not gonna bother with listing you all the major differences between the three games, I'll just link you to the first ever CSGO LAN that was played in June 2012, way before anyone even touched the game: http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=217&eventid=889
Post edited 2013-06-30 22:55:27
Btw final for me was NiP vs VP :D just SIIIIIIIIIIIIICK game
Post edited 2013-06-30 23:07:27
FOREST THE BEST PLAYER OF THE WORLD
Post edited 2013-07-01 00:02:13
CS:S IS BETTER THAN 1.6
CS:GO NOOBY RANDOM GAME
*Bashes heads together*
Shut the fuck up
Post edited 2013-06-30 23:32:25
Nice by VP beating NiP
finally good tournament
I don't see how VG could beat NiP so in my view VP won EMS.
Well in the end we saw some good CS and that what is important in the end of a day.
Still, if Virtus can only manage to beat NiP and not win the other important games, well, their loss.
Btw, was it me or was the stream constantly lagging?
gg VG, but VG is lucky they watched VP play vs NiP behind their backs and ya, VP did spend all their energy on NiP, were too happy and excited and couldnt win this even though VG are easy to win!
next time boiz - next time ;)
so today's VG win is on one hand coutable physicaly and on the other isnt. Let VG win against NiP first, then we can talk bout them being good and pro winning VP ;)
In any case, nothing has been taken away from VG. A win is a WIN, congratz, but smartz will get the point out of all that...
Post edited 2013-07-01 03:28:55
And still , get excited and loose all the concentration because they won NiP.
Its seems like, thoose guys ,who go to the first lan, and are all scared , and win the first match and get all excited.
THEY ARE NOT LIKE THAT, they have experience.
VP is better then VG ? just because they won several times against NiP ?
Doesnt matter if they lost to guys that arent even top 7/9, but if they have beatd NiP they are better then VG.
VG otherwise, didnt get a single map from NiP, but already won ALL the teams , ON LAN, that are in the TOP5/10 . So its better to beat 1 and get raped by others , or win 8 and loose 1 ?
Post edited 2013-07-01 03:49:42
1st NiP or VP
2nd NiP or VP
and like I said im not here to argue and not taking away their victory...
A win is a win no matter how and what they did to get it...
And just a little statment to you saying they've been playing for too many year - yes, it is true and they are professional and know how to handle such situations, but still NiP are the best in the world and won over 90 maps at first not losing a single map before they first lost to VP which never happenned in the whole history of CS, so no matter how professional you are when you win on lan against NiP it does take a lot of your nerves away... ;)
U cant say that VG would lost against to nip. But u can clearly say that VG are far more better than nooby VP. Is wasnt even close game....
If VP are able to beat NiP it doesn't automatically make them second. VP should play more stable.
Post edited 2013-07-01 09:10:52
bg vg aint worth winning untill they beat nip and they wont cuz they are phsycologically weak vs them
VG are easier than NiP...its obvious...
Haters everywhere :)
And NBK showing is true skills, and saying that F0rest its not the only one monster is this game :)
Where the hell is this 'gandalf' spot?
the rest of you idiots need to realize that the top 5 are still:
1.) NIP (obvious)
2.) VP (obvious)
3.) VG (shoxie added to lineup boosts) - scream +smithzzz plz
4.) You Pick
5.) Who cares game is top 2/3 heavy
VP are just a bunch of noobs. They got absolutly ass fucked and raped. Games wasnt even close.
are you saying VG will beat NiP if they were on the same bracket? ha VG struggle against fnatics :D
Thats all u can say. VG far better than VP.
Post edited 2013-07-01 09:01:25
NiP is not #1 just because they are, they are because they won most of the tournaments out there, being denied only twice, and unable to attend two. It's also the case because they didn't make any roster change so far. It's important to note that the same results with a complete roster change or more than half the team for example, would be a completely different story.
VP #2 is just exaggerating their performances on the scene. Sure beating NiP several times is worth something, but they weren't that consistent between those two events, and didn't attend a lot of them comparing to VG, which were there since the very beginning. They do have one international title though.
VG have kept their core players (Ex6 NBK and Smithzz) and were able to have more results on LAN than any other team (except NiP of course) throughout the year, having more titles, more finals and more podiums.
Additionally, they attended more events than any other team, except maybe ESC and NiP.
Sure, the fact that they consistently fail against NiP is a negative point, but it doesn't reflect at all their performances on the scene.
Post edited 2013-07-01 13:42:34
VP had a single goal for a long period 0 TO BEAT NIP! The worked hard to reach this goal and thay did it (twice on LAN now). VP is no doubt the imo the only that can beat NiP, fact ( still I can't say VP is stronger then NiP anyway, they just got used to it).
VP vs VG is absolutely different situation. I might be wrong but it seem like it was the first time VP played with VG on LAN. I don't know why ANGE1 didn't pay enough attention to VG's playstyle, but it was obvious when I listened to their POV stream VP just didn't know how to play against VG (while they knew all position of NiP's players like their fingertips).
So now we have it like this: VP can beat NiP - fact! VG have no chance against NiP - fact! VP needs more time to get used to VG's style if they want to win the frenchies. Imo VP can't win any single map over VG nowadays - it's not about who is stronger, it's just because they are tooooo different!
if VG TOP1 then ok, done with you
nothing else to say...if VG TOP1 then ok, done with you
They also had this one, on the second map, where they were leading 13 - 10 or 13 - 11, something like this :
They also had a chance online, on ESEA, where they were up 12-3 on first half on de_nuke.
All these opportunities were wasted, but they are definitely a match for NiP, denying that is just being silly.
They sure are not top1 because it requires more than just two international titles to claim that, but they are certainly the most consistent team in the top3 besides NiP. I would certainly consider them top2 in the world if you take into account their performances during this first year of competitive scene.
Post edited 2013-07-01 13:25:57
it's not like they were too tired... they only played three maps during the whole day. most of the LAN's make you play at least 10 maps per day. anyway it's not like the break was only 10 minutes, it was actually over 40 minutes, enough to recollect themselves.
i always said VP play better vs. NiP than everyone else, but that doesn't mean they're better than the others, because they will still lose to the likes of VG. people told me i'm an idiot and that VP are a top2 team... and guess what, i was right... once again.
no nip in finals ...
Virtus.Pro were not tired; as ANGE1 said, they were over-confident, which they shouldn't be. When they first realised that they were getting their asses beaten, it was too late.
Post edited 2013-07-01 13:14:26
game is stil fucked up, but the pro players are interesting to watch.
its remains the same
NiP > VP > VG
I'd like to watch a POV stream at every championship. There can be some problems with an obscene lexis that may lead to a maturity rate increase though... Anyway it definitely requires more attention.
Ran very smoothly with minimal delays.
Great semifinal and finals matches.
Results clearly indicate that NiP isn't unbeatable anymore and should make future events all the more interesting.
I still think they were pretty lucky that VP shined against NIP and took them out.
I still believe they have big mental barrier to play against them and if the final was NIP-VG the outcome would have been obvious :)
VP only knows how to play against NiP.
Anti-Strats ftw :)
Against other team they get their asses " raped "
He is a nice dude actually, always complimenting his team but also the opposite team in the end.
Post edited 2013-07-02 03:50:30